Not worth it yet. People that get the best deals on homes sales are the early gentrifiers. The moment the road is repaved and a artisanal coffee job opens up in that area, you should buy a home there. The longer you wait the more expensive the homes become.
@@1_star_reviewsthe schools in the area are still cr@p. So the only people buying homes there either have no kids or they are in private school. So that limits the amount of buyers.
I remember how beautiful Greenspoint Mall used to be back in the 80's. Always went to Visible Changes for salon care. I always marveled at the mall's beautiful flooring as I walked across it. Sad, but those days are gone forever. Rest in peace Greenspoint Mall.
I could cry. I was born in 1995 and some of my earliest memories are of the water fountain inside the mall and my mom getting hair done at visible changes.
I believe that crime is down in Greenspoint. I was in that recently. Developers are spending money out there. And the police seem to be cracking down. I believe the stats that the reporter provided. There are no completely safe areas in a big city. You can get robbed at gunpoint in River Oaks.
Oh yess it’s way safer than it was before. When they put e police stayin over there crime has went all the way down. I use to stay in greenspoint. Nothing nice!
@@BlackFemaleAnd50 thats a given but river oaks is still way safer and cleaner than guns point Just because you can get robbed anywhere doesnt make gunspoint any less dangerous
Last time I went there went for custom shirts. Used to be a cool airbrush shop in there, on my way out was robbed. Jazz it up all you want it’s still gunspoint. Crime isn’t down, crime just doesn’t get reported because the entire system is a joke.
@GoonyMclinux wrong! i was living in some apartments called greenspoint crossing (now serena village 1 apartments) and they found a man murdered in an open field behind the apartment complex in the 90's
Malls are a dying thing. Too easy for thieves to get away by getting lost in the crowd. Shop owners are too afraid of getting killed over their merchandise to fight back. Teens take them over as their own hangouts with no respect to those shopping or running the shops. Turn the malls into campuses for specialized colleges for trades, or for alternative schooling. Or create indoor "villages" for elderly and/or special needs adults. Add solar panels to generate at least part of the electric needs. Create open-air allotments for gardening. Have on-site urgent care available. Put a day care in another area. There are many different ways to reuse the malls that are closed or closing. We need to stop building new stuff and refresh old resources to make them useful again.
You forget when/how these places were built. Please note: lead and asbestos aren't easy or cheap to get rid of. Plus, none of these buildings are built to last to start with. Cheap cinder block. Can't even install a simple roof here. As seen by all the water...
It's better than homeless people pitching tents everywhere. Rent has gone out of control. We need "affordable" housing or we will be California in 10 years or less.
Yes!! Back in the day when the malls were closed on sundays. And the only thing thatn was open was the movie theater and Piccadilly's! And after church, we would go to Piccadilly's for lunch and then walk around the mall!! Gosh, those were the good ole days!
OMG! I was passing by Greenspoint today and I saw the lonely and destroyed mall & I just wanted to cry. I remember how pretty and how peaceful this area was years ago. The whole area was alive : sadly this new generation o young lazy people has turned our Greenspoint area in just TRASH!! Bunch of lazy people who dont work just wondering around looking for victims to assault and hurt. If you pass by the park behind the mall you will not see a park full of children and families but you will see men smoking marihuana and how do we know? There a stinky oddor in the whole park. And you better dont go out at night. There is good reason why Greenspoint is call now...the Gunpoint. Gunshots everywhere. So sad and violent environment in Greenspoint😢
Will anyone anywhere actually miss Gunspoint? It has not been a functioning mall since the 1980’s, and it was a crappy mall, even then. Literally everyone called it Gunspoint, because shopping there got you robbed, on your way out.
Really!! My mom and I had just moved in Humble when Deerbrook was just about to be open at that time. I remember some friends of our landlord, had taken me to the mall because they had gotten some kind of pass to tour the mall days before it opened. And that mall was just beautiful. After meeting some friends at school. Deerbrook became my stomping grounds. Sad to hear that's it's going down
@lindafoss3823 if you're talking about the San Jacinto Mall, yes it's gone now. All thaz left there are the big sign & some of the parking lot light poles. The whole building & some of the parking lot is gone. The empty property is fenced off. The mall closed back on January of 2020 but only left JCPenney & Macy's to stay open. Later in late 2021, JCPenney closed. Then in early 2022 like February or so, Macy's which was the last & only store left at the mall finally closed. After that, the mall was left abandoned & in ruins for a while before they finally demolished it.
@@KevinRichards-my5oj And it was built after Greenspoint. I lived in Huffman, so went to both to shop. The blame for the decline on the housing around it is unfair. They all declined. Plus, new malls were built that took away business.
@lindafoss3823 also believe it or not, the Galvez Mall that use to be down on Galveston Island closed & was demolished back in the late 1990s. It was on I-45 close to where the freeway ends & turns into Broadway. Sadly I never got a chance to visit that mall.
@lindafoss3823 I believe the internet is what killed most of the malls because most people shop online these days. Amazon is popular too because I see Amazon trucks everyday out on the roads.
When todays cliche of affordable housing is bandied about, especially in the area of over built apartment slums of that Greenspoint area, I immediately envision section 8 housing.
communism will come and will make everyone even 😀 in order to change something in the area, - you need to educate and raise all the kids no matter what race they are the same great way. but till that segregation gonna be here ongoing, - nothing good gonna happen. black community doesn't have clue, that once white people gonna be "done" with their garbage, - they gonna live in another Africa called America. and if they had where to steal from, - they gonna start stealing from their black fellas
Start w ENFORCING the law. Obviously, if you don't belong somewhere, the cops would rightfully want to ask questions. Duh. But if they're not allowed to DO ANYTHING, that's a problem. Because if you're there for a good reason, you can show that. You know when people show up just to cause trouble. They do nothing, and rich tax base LEAVES. Saw it in rich Lincoln park, Chicago. It's very fast when NOBODY does ANYTHING.
In regard to those crime stats, how many fall into the category of crimes that were committed but have been kicked to the curb by former chief Finner and HPD!
Very, very sad. It was a nice place long ago. I haven’t been there since the late 90’s. There was nothing wrong with the mall, just the people who stole its greatness. The same thing will happen to the new buildings.
i used to pick up so many cute girls in this mall in the 80's it was 99 % white and i was a mall rat,there was a swatch watch little booth with a really cute red head i would talk to,these were good times as the surrounding area apartments were filling up with hood thugs so they ruined it,oh well whats new.brothers pizza was so good i still get it from jimmy in magnolia from time to time,whats up jimmy haha but yea it was good times when you walked in that front door as soon as you went in to the right was the video games good stuff,good times,not no more thats for sure.
Does many body remember Judy's?? I worked there in the late 80's!! It started out has a men's and women's clothing store. However, since the men's part was fairly small, they decided to just have the store as a women's store. Well young ladies/women!
a high school that's over ran with students in gangs, dealing drugs on campus, violent fighting with the backdrop of high dropout, teen pregnancy and illiteracy rates... yeah, that's a high school i will let my child attend
Really sad to see what this mall and especially Sharpstown have become. Back in the 80s Sharpstown was the place to be. Thirsty’s has the best strawberry and banana smoothie around.
You know what the authorities will not make public?! Houston has fallen people,! We lost the city! The authorities are no longer in control of Houston.
We used to get dropped off at that mall at 7-8 years old. We would shop, go to the movies and eat at the food court. We spent all day and night there without parents. This was 1977, 1978 into the early 1980’s.
Same here. I was at the grand opening of the Mall. They had . Star wars characters in what I believe was the real costumes. The actual r2d2 from the movie. (I think). You remember the big red hexagonal play thing near the food court? Those were great times.
The apartment project has been abandoned, its owner Zieben Group out of money. Zieben has a bad reputation for not paying his subcontractors. Telemundo has visited the site twice after all workers' checks bounced. Multiple liens and lawsuits have been filed.
North line was the hangout if you were from northside, but yes, if you wanted to go to a decent mall you had to go to at least northwest mall. Were some way better times back in those days.
Every store can become an open concept apartment just add a shower in the employee bathroom nothing fancy a front door and curtains done deal ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😮
Gotta remember how the dog track or horse 🐴 track my bad on the beltway used to look no bs with all those trailers tractors at one time no bs going that way
Still not worth living in that area just to get robbed.
You can get robbed anywhere.
Not worth it yet. People that get the best deals on homes sales are the early gentrifiers. The moment the road is repaved and a artisanal coffee job opens up in that area, you should buy a home there. The longer you wait the more expensive the homes become.
Finally someone gets it. @@1_star_reviews
@@hectorlopez1069 yes but more so and even more serious crimes happen at a way higher rate in certain areas, such as ghettospoint
@@1_star_reviewsthe schools in the area are still cr@p. So the only people buying homes there either have no kids or they are in private school. So that limits the amount of buyers.
They say crime is down, hopefully it is, but… let’s not forget HPD is sitting on 270,000 cases that they set aside due to so called staffing issues..
down because they took everything they could grab. no motivation to go there to steal when there is nothing left.
they got 270,000 cases and greenspoint is all of them
affordable housing = crime
More crime
For real!!!, affordable housing is the very reason the area went to 💩!!!
I remember how beautiful Greenspoint Mall used to be back in the 80's. Always went to Visible Changes for salon care. I always marveled at the mall's beautiful flooring as I walked across it. Sad, but those days are gone forever. Rest in peace Greenspoint Mall.
bro the late 80s , 90s-early 2000s were the best times of life. this new generation is cooked
@@stayingfitandfocused Bro? Her name is Debbie Johnson. And you're saying the new generation is cooked? C'mon, man. Please don't call women "bro".
@@BlackFemaleAnd50 spoken like a true black female. Ignorant and st*pid
@@BlackFemaleAnd50 2nd. you're not my mother, get a life
I could cry. I was born in 1995 and some of my earliest memories are of the water fountain inside the mall and my mom getting hair done at visible changes.
Man greenspoint mall use to be the spot when I was younger in the 90’s.
Can you explain?
@@quincy22 explain what?
@@roadkillgravy5168 what made it the spot?
I think the crime rate goes down when there are fewer places to rob. 🤔
That mall is a complete ghost town.
I worked at guns piont mall. I had to pray before coming to work. No way, it's safer.
I believe that crime is down in Greenspoint. I was in that recently. Developers are spending money out there. And the police seem to be cracking down. I believe the stats that the reporter provided. There are no completely safe areas in a big city. You can get robbed at gunpoint in River Oaks.
Oh yess it’s way safer than it was before. When they put e police stayin over there crime has went all the way down. I use to stay in greenspoint. Nothing nice!
@@BlackFemaleAnd50 thats a given but river oaks is still way safer and cleaner than guns point
Just because you can get robbed anywhere doesnt make gunspoint any less dangerous
Same
@@user-pw2gx4ej4oe police?
Low income housing will turn it into a new ghetto, should turn it into warehouses
Exactly
All
Warehouses/industrial places…
I love greenspoint
TRUE, that decision wasn't thought intelligently out at all.
@@jasonm106 the location is great they should do more to revitalize it
Destroyed by fatherless people.
And those fatherless people will go and create more fatherless people. A vicious cycle.
And the ones who have “fathers” sh00t up elementary schools…
but yes, sooo sad for this poor mall….
Agreed. Fatherless people all around society. Crazy.
Of course the numbers will go down with no one to rob.
Last time I went there went for custom shirts. Used to be a cool airbrush shop in there, on my way out was robbed. Jazz it up all you want it’s still gunspoint. Crime isn’t down, crime just doesn’t get reported because the entire system is a joke.
“Built with Harvey funds...” wasn’t that money earmarked for flood control projects; projects still unfinished I believe??
I think they mean the company Harvey
No, They meant Hurricane Harvey funds. I doubt Harvey construction does Sec 8 housing. I’ve never seen them do any.
I believe those projects include creating new housing and buying out areas that were prone to flooding.
There was money for housing. Also Ike money for housing.
Called that area Gunspoint in the 90's
It wasn't bad in the 90's, it was pretty awesome then.
@@GoonyMclinux True, I lived in the Katy area when there was still rice fields
But, everyone knew to stay away from Greenspoint
@@GoonyMclinuxit got way worse in the early 2000s, 90s greenspoint is how people see willowbrook mall now
@@cheeseburgerfromtexas I wasn't there anymore in the early 2000's so I got to miss the tomfoolery.
@GoonyMclinux wrong! i was living in some apartments called greenspoint crossing (now serena village 1 apartments) and they found a man murdered in an open field behind the apartment complex in the 90's
Low income housing. Yeeeehhhh...so good for retail!
Next, we will hear that the newly retail is shutting down due to theft. It's not like in the 80's when it is a place to hang out!
@@gokuvegeta179 Yeah theres no saving the Greenspoint area. Its over.
There’s a few low income housing in places like Katy and Pearland and it hasn’t hurt them
Those cities are the new ghetto. Katy is bad especially between hwy 6 and 99 @@ranelgallardo7031
Let's be honest, that housing will be anything but affordable
Let's see how well this ages
You could put some lipstick on a pig, but it’ll still be Gunspoint.
Malls are a dying thing. Too easy for thieves to get away by getting lost in the crowd. Shop owners are too afraid of getting killed over their merchandise to fight back. Teens take them over as their own hangouts with no respect to those shopping or running the shops.
Turn the malls into campuses for specialized colleges for trades, or for alternative schooling.
Or create indoor "villages" for elderly and/or special needs adults. Add solar panels to generate at least part of the electric needs. Create open-air allotments for gardening. Have on-site urgent care available. Put a day care in another area.
There are many different ways to reuse the malls that are closed or closing. We need to stop building new stuff and refresh old resources to make them useful again.
Exactly.
Our town has a mall and it's fabulous. Our cops have segways to patrol the mall and we use real cops and not mall security.
Great ideas 👍
Did you just say thieves get away by getting lost in the crowd? You do know cameras exist right. The laws just need to be enforced.
You forget when/how these places were built. Please note: lead and asbestos aren't easy or cheap to get rid of.
Plus, none of these buildings are built to last to start with. Cheap cinder block. Can't even install a simple roof here. As seen by all the water...
Affordable housing will help the high end retail and restaurants. Sure it will.
"affordable"
🤣
Tax payer money? So this is welfare housing not open to the public....
It's better than homeless people pitching tents everywhere. Rent has gone out of control. We need "affordable" housing or we will be California in 10 years or less.
lol affordable housing means future ghetto
Basically, yes. Lol
So many memories of eating Brothers Pizza in that food court before heading off to the Tilt as a kid.
Explored the closed down areas. Like where the movie theatre was in the mall, Macy's was moldy when I walked in
1:58 crime is going down? Didn't the cheif recently admit that he ignored a ton of assault cases?
I miss Piccadilly cafeteria, especially the Mexican cornbread.
Yes!! Back in the day when the malls were closed on sundays. And the only thing thatn was open was the movie theater and Piccadilly's! And after church, we would go to Piccadilly's for lunch and then walk around the mall!! Gosh, those were the good ole days!
Brings back memories! As a kid I grew up going that mall.
The entire area is affordable housing. That's why this happened. The stupidity is astounding.
OMG!
I was passing by Greenspoint today and I saw the lonely and destroyed mall & I just wanted to cry. I remember how pretty and how peaceful this area was years ago. The whole area was alive : sadly this new generation o young lazy people has turned our Greenspoint area in just TRASH!!
Bunch of lazy people who dont work just wondering around looking for victims to assault and hurt.
If you pass by the park behind the mall you will not see a park full of children and families but you will see men smoking marihuana and how do we know? There a stinky oddor in the whole park.
And you better dont go out at night. There is good reason why Greenspoint is call now...the Gunpoint.
Gunshots everywhere. So sad and violent environment in Greenspoint😢
It was great to go to Greenspoint mall in the 90s. Great restaurants and arcades to play with.
Oh no, not men smoking stinky marihuana!
Will anyone anywhere actually miss Gunspoint? It has not been a functioning mall since the 1980’s, and it was a crappy mall, even then. Literally everyone called it Gunspoint, because shopping there got you robbed, on your way out.
Not even the bath and body works Victoria secret GNC or the army recruitment center could survive
Gunspoint has been a goner since the mid 1990s.
DEERBROOK Mall in Humble is headed out, too. I will not be sad to see it go.
Really!! My mom and I had just moved in Humble when Deerbrook was just about to be open at that time. I remember some friends of our landlord, had taken me to the mall because they had gotten some kind of pass to tour the mall days before it opened. And that mall was just beautiful.
After meeting some friends at school. Deerbrook became my stomping grounds. Sad to hear that's it's going down
look at the galleria its looking scummy too,
I was a young teenager in the 80's, and this was the BEST PLACE to be!!
Greenpoint, you will forever be the BEST!!
Wish I could find some footage from that time , it was epic ❤❤
After that mall closes, I'm sure they're going to demolish it like they did the San Jacinto Mall in Baytown, TX.
Wow. It's gone? Because it was newer.
@lindafoss3823 if you're talking about the San Jacinto Mall, yes it's gone now. All thaz left there are the big sign & some of the parking lot light poles. The whole building & some of the parking lot is gone. The empty property is fenced off. The mall closed back on January of 2020 but only left JCPenney & Macy's to stay open. Later in late 2021, JCPenney closed. Then in early 2022 like February or so, Macy's which was the last & only store left at the mall finally closed. After that, the mall was left abandoned & in ruins for a while before they finally demolished it.
@@KevinRichards-my5oj And it was built after Greenspoint. I lived in Huffman, so went to both to shop.
The blame for the decline on the housing around it is unfair. They all declined. Plus, new malls were built that took away business.
@lindafoss3823 also believe it or not, the Galvez Mall that use to be down on Galveston Island closed & was demolished back in the late 1990s. It was on I-45 close to where the freeway ends & turns into Broadway. Sadly I never got a chance to visit that mall.
@lindafoss3823 I believe the internet is what killed most of the malls because most people shop online these days. Amazon is popular too because I see Amazon trucks everyday out on the roads.
It’s where to be back in the day before it got “dark” 😂
When todays cliche of affordable housing is bandied about, especially in the area of over built apartment slums of that Greenspoint area, I immediately envision section 8 housing.
The area has potential. But I have no idea how to make it safe without serious investment.
communism will come and will make everyone even 😀 in order to change something in the area, - you need to educate and raise all the kids no matter what race they are the same great way. but till that segregation gonna be here ongoing, - nothing good gonna happen. black community doesn't have clue, that once white people gonna be "done" with their garbage, - they gonna live in another Africa called America. and if they had where to steal from, - they gonna start stealing from their black fellas
Start w ENFORCING the law. Obviously, if you don't belong somewhere, the cops would rightfully want to ask questions. Duh. But if they're not allowed to DO ANYTHING, that's a problem.
Because if you're there for a good reason, you can show that.
You know when people show up just to cause trouble. They do nothing, and rich tax base LEAVES. Saw it in rich Lincoln park, Chicago. It's very fast when NOBODY does ANYTHING.
Greenspoint, Sharpstown, and West Oaks Mall all should go. They are ghosts towns.
In regard to those crime stats, how many fall into the category of crimes that were committed but have been kicked to the curb by former chief Finner and HPD!
The jewelry man is blowing my mind
I think insurance $$$ to profit from the low volume sales
@@user70621 I was thinking the same thing but the risk involved is crazy. I guess whatever you’ve gotta do to make it.
Very, very sad. It was a nice place long ago. I haven’t been there since the late 90’s. There was nothing wrong with the mall, just the people who stole its greatness. The same thing will happen to the new buildings.
Oh the memories of growing up in Gunspoint.
i used to pick up so many cute girls in this mall in the 80's it was 99 % white and i was a mall rat,there was a swatch watch little booth with a really cute red head i would talk to,these were good times as the surrounding area apartments were filling up with hood thugs so they ruined it,oh well whats new.brothers pizza was so good i still get it from jimmy in magnolia from time to time,whats up jimmy haha but yea it was good times when you walked in that front door as soon as you went in to the right was the video games good stuff,good times,not no more thats for sure.
Crime. Thats where that deputy woman was shopping and was kidnapped. They killed her as soon as they found out.
I stopped shopping there right after that sad event.
You mean Gunspoint😅
The solution is simple, we can say that this new neighborhood is a white suburban neighborhood
The music fits well with that area.
😂😂😂
Many memories in that mall
Can you cover macroplaza mall in Pasadena?
Shout out to my elementary boys gettin those spinners chains for 20bucks right infront of the food court good times 😢yall know who yall are
what did the jewler expect when wakandians came to his store?
GREAT MEMORIES. USED TO HANG OUT THERE W A SCHOOL FRIEND. HER MOM WORKED AT JC PENNY! BROTHERS PIZZA 🍕 WAS OUR FAVORITE PLACE TO EAT!
Does many body remember Judy's?? I worked there in the late 80's!! It started out has a men's and women's clothing store. However, since the men's part was fairly small, they decided to just have the store as a women's store.
Well young ladies/women!
Pattern recognition be hitting in that jewelry store
Just don’t tear it down…make the stores in the mall as apartments like they do in other cities.
My Mom Worked At Macys Till It Closed
Looking good so far.
I am looking forward to seeing how it plays out over time.
Crime is low, because there's no businesses, or people. If the businesses, people return so will the crime.
This can be easily renovated into a high school. Parking lot big enough to build a stadium. That'll change the whole demographic of the area
a high school that's over ran with students in gangs, dealing drugs on campus, violent fighting with the backdrop of high dropout, teen pregnancy and illiteracy rates... yeah, that's a high school i will let my child attend
They need to do this for West Oaks Mall, but with something useful.
I wonder what the air-conditioning bill is.
Same thing in Ann Arbor mall right now
Is TGIF still across from the mall? I used to work at ExxonMobil there.
Is it going to be section 8 housing? If so it will be the same ole same ole
NEW GENERATION NEED TO TAKE OVER !
It’s Never Safe In GP 😈
STUARTS WAS A GREAT CLOTHING STORE TOO IN THE 90'S .
11 yrs ago when i went it was ghetto
And it still is 😂
Affordable housing? How much is the rent?
Bunch of project buildings coming soon good luck
🤬🤬🤬 NOONE WANTS AFFORDABLE HOUSES TO BE BUILT THERE.
Really sad to see what this mall and especially Sharpstown have become. Back in the 80s Sharpstown was the place to be. Thirsty’s has the best strawberry and banana smoothie around.
i used to work here in high school😢
You know what the authorities will not make public?! Houston has fallen people,! We lost the city! The authorities are no longer in control of Houston.
Usual suspects
Why shop at a mall when I can just order online
We used to get dropped off at that mall at 7-8 years old. We would shop, go to the movies and eat at the food court. We spent all day and night there without parents. This was 1977, 1978 into the early 1980’s.
Same here. I was at the grand opening of the Mall. They had . Star wars characters in what I believe was the real costumes. The actual r2d2 from the movie. (I think). You remember the big red hexagonal play thing near the food court? Those were great times.
And your just know figuring this out. The Store s that's left should be investigated
Ain't no way it's a store in there 😂
Turn the mall into a mega luxury apart like a cruise ship on land
The apartment project has been abandoned, its owner Zieben Group out of money. Zieben has a bad reputation for not paying his subcontractors. Telemundo has visited the site twice after all workers' checks bounced. Multiple liens and lawsuits have been filed.
That’s a very good idea
Its called gentrification!!!
I’d rather live in the woods
Train station!! Get the train station going please!!
They should of torn it down 15 years ago.
Don’t let them buy it. They gonna raise up prices and taxes.
This was the nice mall when I was a kid this and northwest way better than north line in the 80s
North line was the hangout if you were from northside, but yes, if you wanted to go to a decent mall you had to go to at least northwest mall. Were some way better times back in those days.
0:58 well well well
Gunspoint lol
will u marry me
It’s call “ Gunspoint”!
After learning about that and seeing that no bs their zoning sucks
still not never going to that area!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stay away if you value your life!!!!!!
Oh great so they are just making it a bigger crap hole. Great job. You sure did accomplish something
Every store can become an open concept apartment just add a shower in the employee bathroom nothing fancy a front door and curtains done deal ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😮
Nothing is affordable these days
BUILD HUGE COMPANIES THAT EMPLOY HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE INSTEAD
Affordable to whom?
Who ever buys it no bs u know they gotta understand their business about it and u know how that goes
Rip Westwood mall, town & County mall and gulfgate mall
Gotta remember how the dog track or horse 🐴 track my bad on the beltway used to look no bs with all those trailers tractors at one time no bs going that way