Blue collar trash red wine. (It's predictable.)
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- In the UK the standard of imported wine is generally very variable. We pay a premium price for random bottles that may taste nice or may be so bad they have to be poured down the sink.
After a particularly horrible bottle of red wine (A bottle of the same wine bought a week earlier had been fine) I decided to analyse the taste and determine if I could fake the red wine experience.
Try it yourself and let me know what you think in the comments.
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Here in the states vodka and cranberry juice is a common and popular mixed drink.
Common name
"Cape Cod"
here too ,but thats not the point of the video ,anything with vodka is a mix lol
Yea, we did that a lot in the dorms.
To answer his question. It does kind of taste like red wine that you would find for 5 dollars. Maybe a bit better.
I've always heard it called a Cosmopolitan or Cosmo.
here it has a name. Vocran.
Maybe the reason that the UK gets rubbish wine foisted on it is because cranberry juice with vodka might actually be passed off as a tolerable substitute ;)
Shots fired!
The crappy wine had to become commonplace before the cranberry juice looked like a good alternative! To be fair you can buy decent wine in supermarkets, but it's generally not the stuff that gets discounted.
That is literally the most basic, 21-year-old-girl drink here.
That could be a sexist remark, unless you are a 21 y/o girl.
#triggered
Would it be better, then, to say "21-year-old-girl/gayfag/its-complicated-sexually drink" to not discriminate against any sexes and such, to be more appropriate and be veeeery sure not to hurt anyone's feelings, although it is an impossibility in reality.
@27dcx - 21? You clearly haven't seen any of the Police videos from most UK town centers on a Saturday night... :)
wouldn't that be offensive to all the BLGTX?...... just saying LOL
What does your brother Ralph say about this experiences?
He's not impressed.
Let's be honest, after the first bottle, the you start to not notice the taste that much. So start with a half decent bottle then move onto progressively worse.
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ps: wine was nice
This is a fairly common drink in the US, we simply refer to it as a Vodka cranberry. Some places might try to fancy it up with a mint leaf or lime zest, but its ultimately the same.
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Add some ice cubes and a squeeze of lime, and you, my friend, have yourself a Cape Codder. I'm fortunate enough to have been a Restaurateur and Bartender near Wine Country, over the past 20 years, so I've got a little knowledge. I couldn't sell that as a Wine experience, but on a warm sunny day, serve that up as a cocktail, you got gold in your hands... that's if you add the ice.
As others have said, this is called a Cape Cod. It is a cocktail. Congratulations on branching out into alcohol serving suggestions.
This very afternoon, at a non-profit agency near Ithaca New York, there was a long discussion among Social Work counselors about the correct amount of Vodka to add to cranberry juice (Ocean Spray). The women in their early twenties seemed to agree that three shots of vodka was the desired amount. I'm not sure how sound or scientific their reasoning was.
240ml of cranberry juice would get about 88ml of vodka and be called a Cape Cod. I like them in the summer, a rather refreshing drink served over ice. A nice change from my usual Gin & Tonic.
Eh, vodka and cranberry (while it is one of my favorite drinks) tastes nothing like red wine.
You'd probably be closer off with grape or even blueberry juice.
Have you ever had red wine in Britian?
He started by saying what they get is of the lowest quality.
That may be so, but in the US they give us the shit that cannot be sold in Europe and other places, because our FDA (food & drug administration) is so lax and crappy. Our extra virgin olive oil (depends on the brand I guess) might not even be up to snuff to sell as normal olive oil in Europe, so I cannot imagine that liquors are more strenuously judged.
Quality of wine in the states is actually pretty amazing, California and Oregon produce some fantastic wines, and there are dozens of smaller regions where different varietals thrive.
I wasn't commenting on the quality of wine in general, I was just saying that bad wine or not, cranberry juice and vodka is not analogous to the flavor of any wine.
Grape juice or blueberry juice (or some blend of the two) would be a much better fit.
And you can buy a full box too!
Spaniard here. It is false that leftovers is packaged and sent to other countries, if anything just the opposite. Best quality wines are shipped to be sold in other countries. But, here comes the catch, at a higher, much much higher price. Here we can find in any supermarket reasonable quality wines for 10$, and acquired directly from manufacturer at much lower prices. Same wine I've seen in London, or in NY at 4x, 5x price. above 40$ in spain you fine extraordinary wines. And yes, it's unique characteristics can't be replaced. Here we distinguish between different flavors or qualities, and we drink different wines for everyday lunch, special occasion, and celebration. The variety possible with just the same ingredients and type of grape is so wide, that with a very low budget you could drink a different wine everyday for a year. At least here, don't be fooled by the price of the bottle. A good wine is what you enjoy. pricing differs not only because of quality, but because there factors as the amount of wine available that year. So you could find expensive bottles that test not that good for that price, just because that year weren't many produced.
Something is missing........Ah two small black screwdrivers : )
Very common drink in America. Cosmopolitan if I'm not mistaken.
A cosmo has triplesec and I think lime as well. It's pretty similar, though. Usually when you order vodka and cranberry juice you ask for a vodka cranberry. Or a Cape Cod(der) if you wanna be fancy/pretentious.
Good to know I suppose. I just knew that the drink was consumed quite regularly here in the states.
I'm a big red vino consumer, and not a big spender when I do(15 bucks is expensive for me). I have to respectfully disagree on cranberry and vodka tasting like red wine, unless you're speaking of MD20/20 or Boone's Farm. The vast amount of vineyards here could also be why we have so much good cheap wine.
I freeze distilled (idea gleaned from BCdc) a bottle of crappy cabernet, and it changed it night and day. Blew me away how good it became.
An age ago, I worked in a small corner grocery store (that wasn't technically on a corner but you get the idea) and the biggest items we sold was Wild Irish Rose and MD2020 (called MadDog by the locals). I mean... we sold more of this than any actual "groceries".
And I can assure you that neither of them resembled actual "wine". (Hey! Maybe they were British wines? ;-)
That's vodka cranberry, a common longdrink. It tastes nothing like real wine. Mixing grape juice with vodka maybe more wine-like.
me not allowed to drink cranberry juice but vodka is fine!
you have just made a cape cod cocktail. just add a bit of lime!
wouldn't this just be called a mixer, a blue collar trash red wine would be maybe putting yeast in grape juice and brewing it, but maybe i will have to try the vodka + cranberry juice to really understand what you mean.
Have 3 or 4...
Then you'll definitely get it.
Scott Miller maybe half a bottle of vodka would be a more scientific method of testing :)
My 8th grade science teacher had us do that as an experiment in 1978... put grape juice, sugar and yeast in a bottle, topped it with a balloon. The balloon expanded while the yeast was doing the fermenting because of the gases it gave off... when the balloon went back to normal, it was done - and we drank it in Dixie cups.
No way an 8th grade public school teacher would be able to teach you to make wine (and let you drink it!) today.
Mead is fermented honey. Fruit and honey fermented is a melomel. Fermented grape juice is wine.
You need to drink the entire bottle of vodka, then taste the cranberry juice and give us the result ;)
Vodka Cranberry tastes nothing like red wine. This video makes me think that you've never drank a semi-good red wine. Try a more expensive Mediterranean red wine, maybe from an organic food store. I usually pay €10 or more for a bottle and I never got anything that I'd call "impotable swill".
If I wanted to get hammered I'd always choose vodka cranberry over the red wine because a) v.c. is much more efficient and b) the sulphites in red wine give me headaches, among other less pleasurable bodily dysfunctions.
In other words: Vodka cranberry is a terrific way to get absolutely wankered, but red wine can be absolutely gorgeous.
You can get concentrated grape juice for wine making in wilko's... it's very sweet of course, but if you treat it like a cordial, top it up with the cranberry for the tartness and tannin, and add the vodka as you did, I reckon it'll be pretty good!
One of the advantages of living in a country with a state-monopoly of wine stores: it raises the bar especially if you're willing to pay £5 for a bottle.
Vodka cran is infinitely preferable to red wine for me, since most reds give me an instant headache. And as vodka is just my go-to alcohol of choice anyway, I've found lots of ways to enjoy it. Lately I've been making liqueurs by filling a half gallon mason jar about 3/4 up with fruit, and then up to the top with vodka. Add in a few strips of lemon rind and let it steep for 6 months. Then you mash your fruit, strain it, add 1/3 cup sugar per quart and put it back on the shelf for a week or two until the sugar is dissolved. Makes for great dessert alcohol. So far I've used elderberries, raspberries, and blueberries. Next year I hope to have blackberries and a plum tree to try it with as well.
Had a buddy who used to make his own wine from Welch's frozen grape juice and his own recipe, it was quite good, sadly he never gave me the recipe and has been dead now these past twenty years. He was a HUGE man, in fact if you look in the dictionary under giant, his photo pops up. Nearly 7 feet tall, and weighing in at around 400 pounds, his wife was but five 9 and 280, their daughter had her fathers height as well as weight, yes they are all gone now, his wife followed him a few months later, and his daughter died of loneliness. Sad case really but he did make some very fine wine.
I live near a local vineyard that produces a lovely sweet red. Not exactly high-dollar, but it's absolutely lovely and remains my preferred drink of choice.
TDUShelby what's it called?
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So, how does it go for Boozing Efficiency, ie 10 Grams of Ethanol "Standard Drinks" to the Dollar, compared to buying Cask Red (or White) "Goon" (cheap wine), or against buying "Cleanskin Bottles" ; the latter, here in Oz are about $3 for a discount 750ml bottle of Wine with about 17 Standard Drunks to the Bottle, and Bottled Water is $4 per Litre in 500ml Bottles.
Go figure...(!).
;-p
Ciao !
That drink is called a Cape Cod. Garnish with lime.
So you made vodka & cranberry juice, a very common drink.
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Clive state side that is known as a Cope Cod. Generally serviced with a twist of lime.
Hey i live on cape cod!
Yeah, and if you add 1oz(30ml) of grapefruit juice to a Cape Cod, it becomes a seabreeze.
crika50 drink up! ;-)
i was going to say the same thing. I vaguely remember making this drink in my Previous life as a bartender
Really? I've literally just called it a "vodka cranberry" all my life
how about a refreshing glass of buckfast ;-)
This is very popular in Poland, except they do a shot of Wódka, then a sip of juice. Repeat until horizontal.
Your boutique whisky quaffing brother ... I can see him loving this one ;-)
a few years back Smirnoff was marketed in a packet with cranberry juice... It was for some cocktail. Wasn't quite like red wine since I added a much more vodka, but was quite refreshing
I have had cranberry vodka for a while now and i think it tastes much better than any wine that I have ever tried. It tastes even better if you take a glass full of ice and then add your vodka and Cranberry juice.
Cape codder has ice so it's diluted and cold. Very different taste plus bar cranberry juice is usually crap.
Bigclive just discovered the vodka cran. It's a pretty standard white girl drink in the states. I don't really like vodka and taste it through anything. But vodka crans are alright, although if you going for the wine flavor, I'd mix some grape juice in too. You could always sub in spirytus/neutral spirits/everclear if you want more alcohol and not dilute the juice flavor
Ugh. Never been a wine man. I've always stuck with cider.
I once drank too much vodka when I was 16. It caused me to vomit because I was so intoxicated.
Since then, I've stuck to cider. I'm 26 now, and never vomited since.
Add some triplesec and you have yourself a cosmopolitan.
I once used a vintners desert wine yeast to brew cranberry juice after dissolving a little sugar into it to help bolster the alcohol. It was slow to start fermenting and didn't ferment very fast, but the end result tasted really nice. I did the fermentation in a two-litre flagon with a rubber bung and air lock inserted into the top and for carbonation I put the flagon's lid on towards the end of the fermentation (purely estimated). To the flagon I put about a cup of raw sugar. It was fizzy, was quite pleasant and had a reasonable grog content :)
Sometimes the fruit drinks have preservative in them that kills the yeast.
Yea I know. Most pasturised juices are fine though. I have fermented Apple, grape, Apple-blackcurrant, pear and the aforementioned cranberry juice before all with success. It's a bit of fun to experiment with actually. They usually mention on the bottle if there's preservative in it or not so it's easy to check beforehand :)
We drink these all the time in the U.S., It's a vodka cranberry. It's a common mixed drink at bars and restaurants.
I once made red wine from cranberry juice. The store had several bottles discounted cheap so I bought some for this express purpose. The result from fermenting the cranberry juice returned a very red wine-like flavor. Enough that most people wouldn't have suspected unless you said something, then they would say "oh yeah, I do taste a hint of cranberry in it."
have you tried pomegranate juice it also has a similar taste just a little sweeter
Today i learned that Vodka & Cranberry Juice (AKA Cape Cod) tastes like red wine
I rather like the sound of that mix, I will indeed give that a try as i like both items....how bad could it be ?
I used to love wine, especially red wine. I lived in Yorkshire for a while in the late 1980's, and near my home was a superb Italian owned pizza restaurant - their 'house red' was lovely, and I got 'heavily refreshed' on it many times. Several years later, though, I became allergic to sulphites, and found, to my dismay, that any wine (even in a spritzer), if drunk, reappeared very suddenly, from the orifice it had entered by. 🙁🙁🙁
I've never heard of that. It doesn't sound fun at all.
for even later in the night, a dash of lemonade makes a party!
A lot of wine is bloody awful and bloody expensive nowadays too. Normal price £10-12 / Special offer £5-6 which is higher than it used to be. Now I brew my own fruit wines which turn out to cost between £1.30-2.70 per bottle depending on the fruit used. They taste much nicer, are very predictable in flavour and have a higher alcohol content - which we all know is the most important factor! I might give this a go but try brewing it instead to see what happens.
This variable quality is also a problem here in Hungary. We produce a shitload of wine, but some parts of the country just not the wine drinking type, so most of the acceptable quality wine goes bad on the shelves (cooling anybody??). Where I live its okay, but where I go to Uni our traditional spirits is the favorit (very good tough, nice fruity flavors) so after like 6 bottles I gave up trying . I bough big 5l wine boxes from a special wine shop, and it was ok.
In Russia we call it Otvyortka (mean Screwdriver). Any juice and vodka plus man which hold same ratio when drunk.
I tried carbonating the cranberry ethanol and before I knew it I was cramming zircon encrusted tweezers into Poundland battery casings...is this symptomatic?
Do you think you could you make a better wine substitute than that, using a grape juice concentrate mixed with a specific amount of water added? I think a concentrate would be ideal for mixing up something like this.
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The irony is, here in Australia a bottle of cheapo wine is probably cheaper than a bottle of fruit juice. In the order of 2 pound 30 (I did the conversion huaw huaw). Still, even just recently I tried a few wines, and still generally find wine unpleasant. I hate the taste of alcohol, so back to cheap and cheerful 4%-ish home brew for me.
If Oz Clarke is any guide, there's are wineries in Yorkshire that make some consistently good white and rose wines. Maybe take a road trip and do some tasting?
Is vodka cranberry not a drink over there? Its pretty common here in the midwest USA.
Add a few grains of fresh yeast and a dash of vinegar and it's pretty spot on those cheap bulk wines.
That's basically a sea breeze without the lime juice :)
A sea breeze is just about my favourite cocktail, so it gets a thumbs up from me. Whether what you've made is like red wine...
As a long time red wine drinker I very much doubt it, but it's always good to keep experimenting!
I like a nightcap of Ocean Spray lo-cal Cranberry Raspberry cocktail with vodka but I certainly don't put in two full shotglasses of vodka a night (can't afford it), it's more like maybe half a shot a night.
I can't say I've noticed that much of a similar taste to red wine, but maybe the raspberry is throwing the taste off. Also, I already said I prefer the low calorie version, simply because I prefer the taste without much added sugar, and it's the "cocktail" not the straight juice version, which may also be a factor in not making it taste that much like wine, although I wasn't really looking for it to taste like wine in the first place so lack of similarity is not a flaw.
You basically just made a Cape Cod without ice.
"reliable" isn't really a property I look for in a wine. That betrays the human experience.
Hey Clive, ever tried mixing cranberry juice and Sake? Tastes better than you'd expect... ;)
I haven't had a cranvodka in 15 years! Thanks for the trip down memory lane.
In the UK many of the cheaper wines are actually grape juice concentrate with added yeast and alcohol and diluted with distilled water. So I'd say you made a fair approximation of that. :D
red wine in fridge beside coke to chill then mix in glass 50-50 to start then adjust percentage to fine tune to your taste.
Lol we have a term in the us here for the cheap/bottom shelf/gas station quality wine you mostly only buy if you're an alcoholic or bringing it to a party: 3 buck chuck lol
The UK really is severely lacking in the mid range affordable stuff when it comes to wines. I spent about a year there and the choices are atrocious. At least in America we get some pretty decent affordable mid range stuff from New York and California and even Spain in the $12 to $15 a bottle range..
you can put a crappy bottle of red into a blender for like 30 seconds to airate it and it's supposed to make it taste much better
Vodka and cranberry is my go to cocktail at any party, but I've never compared it to red wine though. It's certainly an interesting opinion.
I'm not a fan of any wine, can't stand the stuff, but I've always imagined cranberry juice to go nicely with vodka. I'll have to try it and see!
Super common in America. Not that I think I'm the first to point it out here, but there you go. Actually, that I can think of, the only reason people here buy cranberry juice are one of the following: UTI, geriatric, or to mix with vodka.
No vodka on hand here, but I'll have to suggest that cranberry juice might be something to try in our wine-making...
We are very much gouged for wine in this country. I've seen bottles of a perfectly nice Touraine or Sauvignon Blanc for sale in the UK for about eight to ten pounds in LIdl while the exact same bottle, same year, etc, goes for three euros in a French supermarket that's less than 50 miles away. It's one of the reasons why I just don't drink wine that often.
Even more gouged if you buy it in a pub!
"What's the nicest way of putting this?" We have a name for it here in Australia - "Chateau du Carton."
On a related note... Vodka with cranberry juice tastes far better than red wine, and won't mess your stomach nor your head (well not in the "hangover" sense anyway).
Your calcs seem wrong on the alcohol volume or am I being thick.
Big Thumbs Up.
To be honest I rarely drink any fruit juice without adding some amount of clear alcohol, be it vodka, rum, or cachaça. I find some juices don't work too well with alcohol, in terms of taste. Most subtle white or yellow juices with added alcohol give me a bad impression, to me it taste like I am drinking a juice that began spoiling, even though I know that is not the case. Exception made to coconut mixed with pineapple, which is very good with alcohol.
You can mix vodka with prune juice too - it's called a piledriver.
It's called a Cosmo ( as in Cosmopolitan ) here in the states.
We call that a Cape Cod here.
here in california half-decent red wine is cheaper than water, but alas (or maybe thankfully) tastes nothing like cranberries.
congratulations you have invented a cranberry vodka.also known as a Cape Cod in some places (not here tho)
standard drink served in every bar ive ever been to. lol
Clive, you have just reinvented a "jabol", or so called "fruit wine, sweet", a cheap wine-like product common among alcoholics and students in dormitories (actually these two are the same I think) in Poland :)
Like Lambrini in the UK. A "perry" themed drink that is cheap and consistent. Pretty much a sugar loaded alco-pop.
i have heard that drink called a cape cod here in the u.s.
cape cod's at my bar have a splash of lime juice added.
That drink you are describing.........it is called a Cape Cod or Cape Codder........
This summer a 'new' blue wine is introduced, it's just regular wine, coloured blue using indigo carmine and anthocyanin.
So that would be "Blue collar trash blue wine" haha!
I tried that few times, and I need to say that instead of vodka its better to add two shoot glass of 35-45% Rum, it dont taste the same as wine because it taste WAY better!
I'm guessing it's more like a sweeter red than a dry?
It has a hint of sweetness to it. But not too sweet.
Now add a few oak or maple wood chips and let it sit for a few days. This will add the tannin that is so pronounced in red wines. I've done this before as I like to experiment even though I rarely drink. A tea bag also works quite well.
Mix in some blueberry juice and you get an even better "red wine" :).
I'm just going to let you know that wood not specifically processed for wine making can be very unsafe for this purpose. Remember most wood is treated with anti-fungal agents, insecticides, sometimes fire retardant treatments, and linseed oil (flax seed oil which has been heat and chemically treated to increase waterproofing and is not safe for consumption, unlike raw flax seed oil) for some woods, and can be invisible to the naked eye.
However if you can find wood which has been properly dried (seasoned/cured/aged naturally and not kiln dried as it does not allow the wood time to release any chemicals, natural or unnatural), and has not been treated with any chemicals, then it is safe.
If you manage to find such wood, you may want to consider toasting/burning the wood slightly, as part of the wine wood flavor is caused by that. Do not burn the wood though, just a slight char.
With regards to tannin's, there are two main groups, namely wood and grape tannin's. Wood barrels leach grape tannin's and release there own into the wine (in smaller quantities that what is removed, and with a different flavor profile based on the type of wood, the time of year it was harvested and even the amount of rain and it's acidity through it's life), but a large part of the flavor profile consists of the grape tannin's.
Source: Myself (and uncle) having worked with wood for many years (myself as a hobby and my uncle as a business), having done IT related work for a few companies in the wine and various alcohol (sherry, whiskey, brandy etc) business, and having taken a tour of a wine barrel manufacture that produces barrels for multiple farms in South Africa.
Anyway just be cautious with the wood you use as the chemicals/treatment may be dangerous. :)
Isn't it supposed to be a glass of vodka with a shot of cran juice?
Recipe is here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cape_Codder_(cocktail)
Surprisingly, Sainsburies organic cab sav ain't bad at all - not because it's organic specifically, but it lacks sulphates etc so it's a bet less nasty come the morning after drinking it all from the bottle, because I'm classy as fuck like that.
I understand that this is basically what a lot of cheap wines already are.
I think there's a a lot of snobbery in the UK when it comes to wine the fact is most wouldn't know a good red if it come up and bit their taste buds.
If I remember correctly, that is almost the drink we call "woff woff".
You gotta hold the glass by the stem to prevent heating the wine
I don't think it tastes that similar, but I do have a good palate sometimes. if you want a drinkable and very predictable wine (lacking nuance and character of really good wines), boxed is really not bad. Not good, no depth, but very smooth and predictable.
I know what you mean about the red wine we get here. I've paid £18 for a bottle and have been diappointed. I've stopped buying supermarket red wine now. My cornershop has a £16 and a £8 bottle of Chateauneuvf-du-Pape and they are both lovely.
For those times when a good single malt is unavailable, maybe?
a lower quality red maybe but personally I would go with vodka cranberry and a squeeze of fresh lime for a refreshing pick me up on a hot day.