Classic 350 vs Dominar 400 : You Asked For It : Ep 1 | PowerDrift
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ธ.ค. 2021
- YES! YOU ASKED FOR IT! In all honesty, the Classic 350 and the Dominar 400 belong to two different genres of motorcycling. But the internet is weird and this turns out to be one of the most searched terms on the web. Why are people searching for this? Does it make any sense at all? Should you be comparing the two? Shumi and Varun Painter sit together and discuss in our newest series called, YOU ASKED FOR IT!
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Duke 390💪💪
I have bs6 dominar400 and planning for another bike which is RR310. 😄
Jawa jawa vs classic 350
Fantastic video. Need many more.
Rr 310 comparison
Shumi is riding KTM way too much, you give him sofa he sits on the arm rest....that man has no respect for his bum
What 🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀
killed it with the comment bro
😂😂😂dead re 🤪
😂😂😂
if a choice has to be make between duke390 (2018@13000km) @1.6 lacs and dominar 4000 (2021 @3000 km ) will 1.8 lacs
What's would be better choice!?
As someone who has been riding the Dominar for the past year and has covered 5000+kms only in touring, I don't personally agree with all the criticisms of the bike. I test rode almost all 300-400cc bikes before purchasing, and I picked the Dominar for not only speed but the feel and handling.
My only complaint with the bike is that I wish the fuel tank capacity would be more. A 17-18 or 21 liter tank like the Mojo would have been awesome.
To each to his own, but as Powerdrift always says. Test ride and decide for yourself.
100 agree with, being a Domi owner myself ✌️
I do agree, have done 15k on my dominar, mostly long streches.
@@sunnyrocks2 I got the 2022 model in October, have done 3000+ kms. Good motorcycle 👍
How much mileage you guys are getting on dominar
City and highway?
And what you will suggest i am planning to buy motorcycle
Classic 350 or dominar 400?
My use city use of daily 40 50 km and sometimes on highway
And i am college student
@@adarshpawar5733 I'm getting 30ish in city & 33 on highway. Best I got was 35 when I did a 200km trip to Neemrana Fort. Rest it also depends on whether the petrol station is a trusted one or not. My useage is daily 65-68kms with 90% of it being on highway.
I have always loved Dominar since its 2019ug model, was confused between this and Himalayan, took test drives but Dominar is what rang bells in my heart as with evry twist of throttle you enjoy ✌️
You take test rides of both and see what fits you 👍
Have the dominar 400 for last 4.5 years. Not even once i felt the points mentioned in the vid. Yes refinement levels could have been better when compared with ninja and r3 but again more the sugar, sweeter the tea.
However, my cruising speed on dominar is 120-140 somewhere and absolutely no vibrations. It munches miles like no other and on highways the weight really give a stability to the bike. Although, in city its a bit of pain to cut corners with its high turning radius, also the gearing makes it a pain. But its kinda get used to in sometime,i have a strong build and weight never really bothered me. Acceleration is linear and pretty good. 6th gear on highways is love.
I do not really understand why the hate towards domi.
Although (must mention) i prefer my bike not to look like a mule all the time with saddle stays and top rack and all. But again my version is only 35bhp not even 40 and it keeps me grinning all the time. (2017 model i.e- no gear indicator, no avg consumption display, no twin exhaust, no *USD* , no 40 bhp)
That's what I was thinking about the video.. something fishy 😅
Lol no way there are no vibrations at 140. That too on a BS4 model. Stop trying to convince yourself otherwise.
@@sinuslebastian6366 well i am not convincing myself and i really don't need to. I know there are none. 140 is butter smooth.
old dominar 400 has less power hence less vibrations
@@thisisganesh yeah its 35 bhp compared to the new 40 bhp
For the first time i feel powerdrift didnt do justice to the comparison. Clearly evident that you guys havent spent much time on the dominar.
The stupid point of review they say even domi 40hp it weigh 193 kg heavy , but classic 350 is 195 kg with 20hp 🤷 they didn't complaind about the power wat is this fu** logic
True
Re is scamming everyone in India. Out in the international market compared to other bikes at the price range. It runs like a bike from the 1950s The only good thing about re are their retro look. The engine sucked big time and added with the weight it's a bike you should avoid unless you only go for looks or go with the trend blindly or want to join clubs.
True
@@crankitup6801 ride the bloody thing before using your 'logic'
Been over 50,000+ kms on my dominar - its not that bad heavy element, or may be i have got into its flavour - but trust me i do completely enjoy it everytime, and thats what is required - with options of having both of these bike to rent out,one must try them freely and get to know which flavour they fit in well..
Ridden a Dominar and even have friends who have owned/still have and it's baffling to see such criticism against the Dominar, . .
Test drive a Honda Hornet v2 to know what he means by dominar being hard to handle (front end heavy) and why 40 bhp with that weight kinda feels okay...
Though, if people like dominar, that's a good bike, no doubt about that. Just a bit quirky compared to other bikes
@@SeleniumGlow It's a heavy bike and it feels great on the highway and twisties. You can't expect to flick it around like a ktm or hornet. Only point to which I agree with the video is the rear suspension.
It doesn't handle as well as the Classic 350. To be very honest, the Dominar 250 is so much better that it embarrasses the 400. The 250 is at the perfect spot.
But the main thing, why are people so obsessed about having the better bike. Like, you can go and say that sure, the Classic is the better bike but I like the Dominar more. It's that simple. You don't have to get the better bike, or anything really.
@@saintofall3653 I own the mighty dominar 250 I expect it to give 33 average but I get it around 30 to 28 range which is quite disappointment
@@citylite1572 bro recently i have been checking my d250 milage for around 5lts using full tank system and i always get 27-30 kmph milage in highways and i dont go above 5km rpm.......i dont know whats happening nd why its giving so less
Both are 190 kgs in weight, but Domi is spoken against? Why? Much better specked engine...but still how it's more vibrating than 350?!! Domi has done the longest tours internationally... I have done 15000 plus in Bengaluru itself... None of these hurts...
RE is no where near Domi...it's cult value that's all...
This is guy against it from the start. The durability, ruff handling and ease of maintainence is a huge plus dominar but not even mentioned.
They are just doing cons of dominar and pros of classic
@@anuragsandilya6166 If even it is that, they should do it right.
They just need to butter RE ! Thats it! Classic 350 is no match for Dominar , dude come on this is not even a fair comparison!
I am comfortable in Dominar. I had both Tb and bullet 500 and even with the new engine, service and maintenance is still a scary part. Bajaj has its own share of issues, but atleast its managable. I am 6.1 and a medium build, and not an agressive rider and Dominar just ticks more boxes than Classic as of now. Ride safe!!!
I think the bigger negative for Dominar is the mileage as it hardly give 25 and is a problem in long rides
Apart from the mileage the Dominar is a perfect motorcycle also its exhaust sound like a twin cylinder
@@PraveenKumar-kv3bu 25? In the city? How did you measure?
@@MrSundeepsingh with a scale..how do you think dumb?
@@theeMask You might not be knowing different ways people use to measure economy that's why I asked, but guess you are dumb yourself and didn't answer the full question.
FYI I own it and its never given below 30 in city and on highways 33-34.
I feel Shumi as a rider is fairly different in terms of preference of the feel of a motorcycle compared to the average Indian riders. So take these opinions about the Dominar with this in mind. Take a ride. You'll know what to do.
Shumis preferences are what most indian riders should hope to inculcate as theirs. Most of the indian riders just look at spec sheets and kitna deti hai.
@@VigneshV-lo6fi I disagree. No one should inculcate anybody else's preferences as their own. He's a fast rider and doesn't care about fuel economy and what not. As a previous 2015 Duke 390 owner, I dislike the bike because of its lack of comfort (184cm tall) and vibrations, not to mention the fuel efficiency. It was nice to wring the throttle but it was always short-lived in Indian cities with the roads and traffic, and as Shumi said about the Dominar, too vibey on the highways to take it past 100 kph. Kitna deti hai is an important variable as you'd want to ride a motorcycle, not just look at it and feel good that you have it, and sadly I've seen few who buy Dukes and rarely ride it out.
@@VigneshV-lo6fi i understand what you're saying but here's what i mean. The Dominar is not made for Shumi a Duke 390 is. The Dominar maybe doesn't make sense to Shumi but it does to the rider that it's tailored for. Every rider has different expectations and requirements from their motorcycle and you must keep that in mind whenever you listen to any auto journalists reviews and then decide what you can take away from it. The mindset of the person must be understood before you take their advice.
I don't think people are understanding what Shumi meant. Remember when dominar was launched and it came with the tagline haathi math paalo? It created a big rift between loyal RE fans and value for money and spec sheet obsessed Bajaj fans. This also made the Bajaj fanboys compare every single motorcycle launches with dominar and criticize it.
So what Shumi means is that dominar is not perfect and people should stop pretending it is just by looking at the spec sheet. People should take test rides and see if they like it and stop comparing every single 2 lakh rupees motorcycles with dominar.
@@NVIDIAGeekify As owner of dominar, i would like to enlighten you, you dont feel too much vibrations on dominar. If you coming from 150 200 cc bike and riding it, then you will feel it. But once you keep using it, after 5 days you will get used to it. I cruise at 100 to 120 km/h, and its so comfortable. Vibrations are there, will be on every motorcycle, the question is, do they affect you ride quality and answer in case of dominar is big NO.
Have been riding dominar since last 5 years and no doubt this bike has been amazing .If we are comparing it with the classic 350 there is no comparison here .dominar is way better
Evidentemente no manejaste una classic ,yo pensaba lo mismo hasta que anduve en una classic y su andar es increible ni comparacion con la dominar
D400 anyday ! its good in all aspects & specs !
but "pick the bike whom you can talk with in a long tour" !
I loved the last 2 min conversation... But still I vote Dominar
Would pick Dominar 400 any day for that sheer power it offers! The classic is not even 50% close in performance!
Vibration slow handling heavy weight either bajaj make a proper tourer or power cruiser now its in the middle
@@sandy99797 These are the things we can live with! Nothing of a deal breaker! But yeah it will be good to have all these! But to write off a motorcycle just because its heavy is plain stupid on the reviewers front!
@@easternprestige dominar 400 is a heavily compromised bike thats why they are selling at very low price
@@easternprestige 40 hp is useless if the engine is not refined at triple digit speeds you need refined engine for cruising
@@sandy99797 vibrations are only an issue if it affects stability of the bike. Dominar doesn't have that issue.
Thanks Shumi and Varun, After Seeing this I went out and Booked my DOMINAR.
Good decision bro
Kaisi chl rhi h bhai
I don't understand the lack of ride quality in Dominar that y'all saying tbh, and this is by a guy who has ridden every bike apart from Mojo in its class. I've one in my friend circle and I love it
He didn't say the ride quality is bad what he said was if you look purely at the specs you would be expecting something else.
@@RimZeime Still don't get it. I guess those who are opting for Dominar clearly knows what package they're getting. There's Duke for the whole spec sheet stuff
@@user-wb3fo1sj8m 🤣🤣
Heavy steering. Heavy front end
@@user-wb3fo1sj8m royal Enfield is an antique metal junk...comparing dominar with classic 350 is like comparing toyota fortuner with HM ambassador... Undoubtedly was good in the 80s 90s...now completely useless antique piece of junk
As a Dominar owner I would like to say: Ouch! Wasn’t expecting that.
As a Dominar and RE Thunderbird owner, I think this comparison sucks.
@@dnyaneshpatil3921 Haha 😆. Why so?
Which one shpuld i buy how much mileage you r getting? On domi?
@@adarshpawar5733 Depends on what you want, Dominar is not so great with handling but has good power. Performs really good on the highway but not so good on the streets. On the other hand classic is a bit less powerful but good on highway (not as great on Dominar though) and city both.
What is your use generally?
@@adarshpawar5733 Highway rides I get more than 30 kmpl on an average and in city about 25-27 kmpl.
I am Dominar owner since 2017 and your discussion looks one sided. Dominar is great I do 150kph in it and vibration does not affect me
I'm a Dominar 400 2nd gen owner, I agree with Varun but then as per my requirements and riding style I'm comfortable with the Domi than an RE 😊👍🏻
Didn't quite like how Shumi undermined the Dominar and abstained from highlighting the good bits, in it's new iteration. The Dominar brings in an absolutely killer package on to the table, for the price that it is offered at. Of course, the Classic is a lovely motorcycle but it shouldn't really be compared with the Dominar, to be fair. The price to performance ratio that Bajaj offers, has really been taken for granted. The bias was very apparent. Good luck!
Totally agree with you on this buddy. D400 is the most VFM motorcycle currently available in the Indian market. Shumi this was totally un-baised how can one be so unbiased in a comparison video, blows my mind.
How much money did Enfield pay you guys for this video and for deleting the story about recall of classic 350s?
I disagree on most of his points on Dominor except for mileage to an extent. I own and tour on Dominor 400 for long time now. Comfortable tourer and I feel vehicle's weight fives better stability. This big one can cruise much faster than RE350 without worrying about vibration.
Whats the city and highway numbers?
@@rahulkrish9840 I don't get your question?
Please do ride the new classic..then you will understand what it means
@@Rahul-gs7st bro the new classic is good but if you compare it to dominar then just accept the reality that it's way behind domi....
@@justthinking9804he is asking you about mileage you samrty pants
Its good to know that 2021 classic has become this good!
However if you slap Pirelli Diablo Rosso II on Dominar, it feels like and entirely different motorcycle. I would recommended that to every Dominar owner who wants 3x better handling.
Oh damn. The handling is way way better. Totally worth 15k. 😍
And here is the true legend.🙌
Well i don't have footpegs left on my stock rev z c1 ...would love to try those new shoes
Using alpha h1 now, Rosso 2 better?
@@yt_manish haven't used it personally, but watched a couple of videos and asked a guy who used it, he said it skids due the long wheelbase of the domi and its not able to handle the weight of the bike. Personally, I'm totally satisfied with the Rosso 2, although I wanted the Michilin Road 5, cuz it has better mileage and wet grip than the rosso 2 but the sizes are not available anywhere. Michilin has stopped importing it(just this size) in India. Nevertheless, Rosso 2 is a great tyre, it'll boost your confidence while cornering and in wet conditions.
Recently I got dominar. And I'm more than happy for my money well spent. Onky complaint I have is the weight. The weight should have been around 170kgs. For extra bajaj should have given ride by wire.
In the end it all boils down to your taste. If you are relaxed rider, go with classic and if you are bit busy rider just go with dominar.
I have ridden both......
Engine better in Dominar
Breakes better in Dominar
Head lights better In Dominar
Liquid cooling in Dominar
6th Gear in Dominar
Only thing RE has better is engine smoothness
Kya din aa gaye hai
RE = Engine Smoothness
Deri se aaye lekin durust aaye RE
Engine will be smooth because a 350cc engine producing power like 200cc engine
Completely agree with you on the breaks headlight and 6th gear. They are a boon in India. For everything else. I thing the RE takes it.
@@rajeshranjan5170 I don't think you understand engines. Let's stop pretending like you are an engineer.
@@darkknighthacker07 put counter argument not personal attacks
So here's my take if you want a commuter bike which will be used sparsely on highways then go for the re. If you want to do serious touring then dominar is a no brainer. You sit in the dominar whereas you sit on the re. Also re lacks power beyond 90. You can munch miles in the dominar easily going 120-130 on highways and expressways. I find the re and it's competition cb 350 good enough but overpriced for what they offer whereas the dominar is easily the most vfm product along with the xpulse for what it offers. Also there is a "charm" for some people with the re, but Bajaj service is anydays better than the pathetic re service 😭. If you are a beginner go for the re tho
@@user-wb3fo1sj8m in this vid the bikes being talked about are the classic and the dominar. meteor has everything going for it except the seating position makes it a bit inconvinient. and 120 is a bit of a stretch i feel. 100 is where meteor shines, since i dont like to rev out very much
@@PK-lo6ws lot of guys without even riding a domi commenting based on reviews 🤣🤣 . Meteor is smooth till 100 in above that 120 thats engine strains a lot that I experienced in last month ride . But domi engine is stress even at 120 & till 136 it vibrates only after 145 🤷 .
Meteor waiting period are like a woman's pregnancy
@@rohitsakhrani4116 lol
@@user-wb3fo1sj8m rofl
I always loved Dominor over Classic. After riding the 2021 Classic.... Damn RE kicked everything out of the park 😍
RE kicked everything out of the park? Bruh, what are you smoking? Classic 350 is probably the worst bike on sale rn. Dominar destroys it left and right
@@nischalk1336 bro just leave it this is worst review they will only understand once they drive domi for long period of time . Domi sales r low ok 🤷 so we can only see 1-2 bikes in a day & its unique , but RE bikes r like splendor now 🤣🤣u can see it everywhere, in ever street of India , even a boy working for daily wage in construction sight for rs 500 per day near my house has RE classic 😝😝
Yup this means that construction work is having a sense of humor 🤣 and with same price list he picked royal instead he is poor"as per you"🤣🤣.
That call RE..it love of poor ,rich and a construction work with wage of 500 a day.
@@hemantu7563 exclude rich
@@nischalk1336 I don't think you have driven the both for all road formats then. Rode both of them close to their latest launch. And i think the new RE is definitely a winner. Whatever niggles the bike had as per a biker before the "J" have definitely been taken care on this one. No, the domi doesn't come close to it's left or right. Royal Enfield have a centre and a centre forward at that!
Classic 350 - 195 kg, 20 BHP, Vibration , No digital console..Not sure why people are buying ..Top speed is 120 with all vibration.. No LED.. Power is important no matter what you ride ..
Because people know a thing or two about motorcycles. Right power, The most silly thing when considering a motorcycle.
New classic doesn't vibrate
@@arunvignesh7015 Things these RE guys say😂
@@easternprestige Haha things the motorcycle novices cry about. 😂 There's no such thing as power in motorcycle buddy, it's simply a cylinder running at different rpms, and what matters is the combustion characteristic and cylinder aspect ratio which reflects as torque and that indeed reflects in terms of power.
The good thing about the enfield is because of the long stroke and a huge crank, it makes it a lot easier motorcycle to just accelerate and carry loads at lower rpm and that's ideal for touring.
I would yes we would like more power but when are you ever going to achieve 8000 rpm and stay there? Not in a thumper, not in India mate. For 90kmph average cruising speed a 20 bhp long stroke motorcycle is categorically "enough" for touring in India.
And let's not forget it's air-cooled and a stone breaking the radiator fan would leave you in middle of nowhere. Once you get Outta schoolboy poster book attitude about motorcycles and start looking at what really matters when touring you will start seeing the requirements.
I have been an advocate of long strokes instead of over squared engine for sometime now, especially for touring. So more power equates to more displacement. In that aspect i simply think a 350cc long stroke is the best compromise between fuel economy, torque and rpm.
People are buying it because bikes are more than a spec sheet.
After riding and owning
Dominar
2019-20k+
2017 - 25k+
And classic 50k+
I feel hero xpulse 200 is sensible
In terms of maintenance
Pricing
Fuel economy
Weight..
Bhai you are comparing 350-400cc with 200cc almost double difference in everything
What mileage you getting
Been using domi 400 for an year and has clocked 20000+ kilometers with absolutely no issues till this time, very much satisfied with the performance and mileage that it gives for a 400cc, but anyway testride it and decide.
Instead of comparing with dominar, should have included honda cb350, even though new RE 350is a sweet bike, dominar is a different beast altogether
What mileage Do u get ?
@@Bharathsujay i usually get in between 30-35, but in tight city traffic it drops upto 28. But afterall depends on the quality of the petrol too
@@arnbbabu1 kochi ile traffic il ano 27 ketuna?
@@arnbbabu1 eanik eanoke cheytitum 20 23 oke ketunolu
@@arnbbabu1 3rd service kainju mileage increase indavuo?
As much as it hurts to say, I don't agree with Shumi.
I've owned Classic 350, Dominar '17 and now owns Dominar '22 model. Vibrations aren't bad as you made it out to be, the riding characteristics are smooth, the longer wheel base isn't awkward it's just planted, but still nimble enough. It's not a track tool, but it's enough.
Classic 350 is still behind, although it got a new refined engine. It lacks in every other department.
.. and the fact that you didn't mention any of the strong points of Dominar (braking etc), while you were all wordy on Classic... raises eyebrows.
To any prospective owners out there, don't listen. Visit one of the nearest showrooms or talk with owners who actually ride it.
exactly..
Totally agree. Visit, ride then decide.
They might remove these comments soon! They just can’t tolerate truth!
I see experienced riders outgrow the 350 and go for Adventure tourers. So a good suggestion would be to skip the 350 for touring and get the Himalayan or Duke 390. Duke 390 makes perfect sense, or the 250 if city usage is more. Dominar has some niggles but a fine bike nonetheless.
The dukes are too much hardwork for a daily imo. And this comes from someone who owns one. I like the 125 though. That's a good everyday bike.
@@darkknighthacker07 I feel like the 390 can still be used in the city because of the massive torque Band that stretches fairly from the low end, but anything below the 390 and I agree that it’s a lot of work in the city.
I got the Classic 350 for its timeless design..... Its like the Safety pin - design has not needed any improvement over a century - in fact they took extra care to not change it while having to redisign and fit an entirely new double frame chassis and engine combo.
It will look just as appealing in my garage after a 100 more.
On the road the customization options are just too many thereby not much trouble if you want to modify.
Mechanics at every nook and cranny know this machine very well. Or even with the new one will learn it quickly including all jugaar.
Only thing i would pay to see an upgrade is the spoked tubeless tires - cast tubeless while available are not best for badly broken surfaces..... And tubed ones are more vulnerable to puncture
Coming to the Dominar.... It's nice but just not for me given it's tall gearing.... And many other small bits (looks, tires, slow speed friendliness) which come together to make it a "No" for me - seems They have had to sacrifice somethings in order to take it to the expressways - but then they have not gone the whole 9 yards to reach the KTM 390 standards either.
So ended up as a bike which does not really know what it wants you to feel from it (lacks character - IMHO)
Offcourse don't even think about duke390 it's absolutely not for you, you'll probably shit your pants if dare to open full throttle
@@darksoul4721 that was a killer one 😂😂
😂🤣🤣
@Dark soil 47 suprb... I was about to comment the same 😂😂
May be classic has a character(that it definitely has), but that doesn't make dominar a bike which has no character. Dominar is made specially for highway touring which it does much much better than classic anyway. It's basically not a bike for city commutes (although I do everytime as this is my only bike). And that's the character of Dominar 400. And more over a classic 350 owner will never be able to understand the capabilities of dominar. And that's the truth.
Having owned Dominar for 3+ years and clocking 25k+
Boy, you just got it totally wrong. Dominar is a sweet bike. You have not driven it a lot and have no clue what Dominar is capable of.
40 bhp is not having enough power because it's 190 kg heavy. Whereas Enfield weighing 190 and 20 bhp is fine.
The argument put forth is don't go by the spec.
Boy, you take the cake - on Enfield payroll.
Between, the weight comes in handy on highways when you are power riding. I just completed Bangalore- Vizag - Araki - Bangalore and can vouch that the weight did wonders on the highway when heavy vehicles pass you at high speed.
Take a Domibar for a long ride and do an unbiased review
Interesting, RE 350 Max speed mentioned is 110 and Dominar is 160. In the review, Shumi says both Cruze at 110 the same way. Maybe because Dominar is 190 Kgs and would not go beyond 110 :-)
Shumi you are a big fan of KTM 390 then when the same engine is used in Dominar with a different configuration, the linear power output and it is out of the performance.
Can't agree more....Dominar is just a beast who tamed to be behave well.
Highways with load, Ghats, bad patches, winds and storms....it just was a piece of cake On Dominar for me.
Do you understand what crusing means?
@@MotoZeus Please explain. Biking is the privilege of very few and even fewer who can comment.
If you are trying to comment on my comment, please let me know if you have ridden Dominar on long drives.
Between my cruising speed on highways are between 120 - 130 that's my sweet spot where I find the least vibrations and maintain the speed for very long durations.
@@MotoZeus you feel same crusing experience with super splandor over re . Super splandor gives you better milage better comfort reasonable service cost and more desirability. Your can learn crusing with re than upgrade to domi
Please give me honest idea about mileage of dominar 400 ? What you are getting & What I can expect ?
Current status of “JAVA motorcycles in India” would be nice on this channel. It came with so much hype but we hardly hear about them these days. Did anything go wrong in their doings ?
Products severely under delivered, had some partnership issues and getting a piece of cake from RE Fanboys was too big of a task for a “new comer” like JAWA
Lack of Marketing from their side and nothing unique that they can offer except their single seater perak. The market is mostly built upon the meteor, classic and Highness
They over promised and under delivered!
As a Jawa owner, the biggest issue that I think is plaguing this brand is quality control. There are many small issues in the bike like battery dead, malfunctioning of fuel pump, rusting of silencers, etc. But the power and performance that it gives just makes me forget everything.
@@tariqomar0 power? What did you use earlier? A 50 cc scooty?
Royal Enfield turned the tables. The reasons they were abused by reviewers, now those are their features. Vibrations Gone, Handling Great, Ride quality Great.
Good Job RE!
RE is definitely easier to ride, and more smooth. But dominar ergo is better for longer rides esp if you're above 5.9ft. The comparison was flawed as power to weight ratio is way higher for dominar. Not in paper alone, dominar is actually accelerates faster and have higher cruising speeds ( and its not 90kmph for dominar) compared to RE. I have ridden both extensively. Weight didn't feel like much of an issue for me, as i own a Z800 too. What shumi told about feeling more worked out on domi is mostly true, but thats not actually a big deterrent. You actually learn to live it really fast. Please test ride both and buy the one which you feel suits u. Dont heed this PD review. They are usually honest, but not today.
Honestly the dominar ain't a street naked bike or track machine to be light and flickable.. it's meant to be for touring..which it does happily & is also flickable.
The vibes are nearly non existent on the UG dominar, don't know which one the PD given to ride..
A cruiser or a street naked...or in between like the dominar..
sometimes just not being here or there still makes sense like the dominar..
There were major niggles in the 2019 dominar but bajaj ironed most of them out...
2 years 15k kms of owning a previous gen Dominar with approx 35 hp. I'll say it's a good tourer and a better one to ride with a pillion. I usually do 300-500 kms in a day solo including mountains. I would recommend raising handle bars as they are a bit down and far making pulling clutch and brakes a bit tedious. I truly wish the weight is reduced by 15- 20 kgs, Bajaj guys, you have a true potential here, don't waste it. The bike is definitely front heavy and a bit unflickable. This makes it so good on highways though. The weight is truly confidence inspiring on 100 + speeds. Old classic 350 is a crap apart from looks, yet to try the new one.
Does it vibrates?
@@adarshpawar5733 I've the Stealth black version of new classic 350, and I can easily do 90+ without vibrations. Beyond 100, you do feel a little bit of vibrations but that too gets negated if you wear gloves.
True potential ? Bajaj sucks on weight
@@rajeshranjan5170 I think they chose the weight because of the stability he talks about. A true apples to apples comparison would be with its cousin the almighty Duke390. She definitely wild on the Indian highways.
@@rajeshranjan5170 because they decided to use metal instead of plastic. It's a good choice because 2 laksh is not a small money.
Dominar 400 is good enough to be compared with interseptor 650 , I would even buy dom 250 or duke 250 over classic 350 anyday . Classic doesn’t have any punch that’s why you feeling that handles well 😂
After watching this I unsubscribed PowerDrift and booked bajaj Dominar 400
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RE called back 26.3 k units for braking issues and here comes PD to back it up with new video and named it "you asked for it"😏
Point 😆
I own a D400 and i didn't got offended by this because @shumi sir always said "buy what suits you" so dominar irrelevant of the points raised here it suited me the best i could get. 😌
Very surprised i must say! I have had an Electra 350 for 8 years, and got the dominar a year before. A 200 km ride on my Electra makes me so darn tired, a 400 km single day ride on dominar is absolutely awesome. A 100 km non-stop stretch i did on my Electra, my hands had turned into a tuning fork! With gloves on!
They are comparing with new classic 350.
@@goldroger9990 yes, but it's still a Royal Enfield! :) Something really bad has happened to Shumi with the dominar that he is unable to get over it. Even in his latest video on Yezdi walkaround he takes a jab at Dominar :D
I chose to ignore both of them and bought Hness CB350.... and the best part is the owners of both these bikes are impressed from the beauty of the beast Your Hness
The new Classic 350 is definately a better polished and allrounder product now. better comfort , refinement , handling , city commutes , highway runs, it will do everything, while the domi will want to be on a an expressway only ! Ummmm the times have changed. But i still believe Dominar is the only "touring ready" bike at its price.
As a D400 owner I agreed to all the points except the crusing speed point.
I don't know about your test review bike.
But the D400 can easily cruise at 120-130 kph without any major vibes past 4k rpm & if you can get a better engine oil like motul or something it gets even smoother.
350 can't compare to the D400 when it comes to higher cruising speed.
Just like the D400 can't compare to the 350 in terms of ride comfort/quality.
So its all about what ticks your personal boxes...
Therefore no , there isn't a definite answer as to which bike is better than the other....
How are you cruising at 130kph on a bike with a topspeeod of 150
@@pranavp386 ride it
@@SijuAbrahamkrz I have driven and ridden enough to know a mere 20kmph below the topspeed is definitely not cruising speed...unless it's a really short geared 50cc bike.
@@pranavp386 If a bike with a top speed of 120 can cruise at 110, Dominar can very much! Btw, the New Dominar maxes out at about 165kmph gps indicated!
I have been using dominar since the time it is launched. And rode classic 350 as well. These two machines are entirely different. I am very satisfied with dominar in terms of daily commute and kong rides. Whereas for me personally I feel RE lacks that torque which we need to overtake. Vibrations are intolerable in RE not sure about the new one. So it totally depends on an individual of what actually there need is.
Ride the new Classic
You wont hear a thing about performance when these guys talk about REs!
Exactly man. 350 is for calm riders. Its always skipping the power when it comes to talking about 350 with all the channels
Both problems of classic kinda resolved in the new ones. Try it.
Would love to try.. I shared shared my experiences with dominar
I have no idea why the weight issue wasnt brought out for RE and it was pointed out for Dominar.
Makes me wonder, 2 guys who don't know how to sit on a couch are talking about comfort. That too with their shoes on. My dad will hang me if I do that in the house.
First of all why are people asking for dominar 400 vs classic 350!!? They are not even in the same category of bikes! 😕
Then why Bajaj featured RE 350 in their domi commercial? They clearly want domi to compete with re 350.
Duh
@@vroombk I think Bajaj domi can compete better with Interceptor 650 given the engine refinement and torque and power output of the Domi...
Great video after a while, Its safe to say I watch powerdrift these days for shumi .
Anyway I want you to cover on 2 topics
1. FZ25 BS6 vs RTR 200 4v . They both fall under same price point despite being in different segments. It really becomes a battle of mind and heart for people while opting for these 2 bikes.
2. The current state of jawa bikes and Mojo 300 in the Market - what went wrong with them,what was or is great about them ? I included mojo 300 because they all have the same engine and the bikes are tuned in different ways to suit their own character.
Looks like you guys are saying don't buy Dominar and buy RE.... How re Classic even close to the Dominar in terms of performance, reliability, practicality, value for money etc.... 🙂
The Dominar is indeed one of the best value for money bikes, but Bajaj messed up its marketing. Dominar in my opinion is good for all. A little touring, a little racing and a little commuting, it's a jack of all trade but not a master of any. That's ok and would have been good if marketed that way, but Bajaj went straight with the anti-RE campaign and I think it did hurt sales. Also, Shumi is right, if Bajaj wanted a tourer why the power cruiser design? Also what is going to happen if Bajaj comes out with a 400cc Avenger or some new cruiser developed alongwith Triumph.
Hahaha I feel proud to own both the motorcycles 😂 and still I'm watching this video to know which is better. 😂
Flex
It's like comparing both your children, knowing it's wrong but still enjoying it
And what's your take on it?
@@yashrastogi149 dark.
Poocha kisi ne ?
The Answer is Highness... go for it.
im actually buying a used dominar next year the prices right now are from 85-90k which is quite good expect them to lower even more next year due to less demand
Go for it ....
Ill rather have domi 250 purely for touring.
Here's why
1)it costs almost 60k less then classic350 & 45k less then domi400
2)tubeless tyre's are must on long distance touring.
In case of classic 350,
buyer have to pay 10-12k extra for alloy wheels with tubeless setup over bikes costs
(In case your spoked wheel get puncture then replacing tyre is not an easy job anymore as ABS & all bits&nacks are connected to wheels.
There is an option, where you can opt for steel tubeless spoke wheels. But it will cost you atleast 20k )
3)i would prefer hard panniers over soft luggage for long distance touring because of safety reasons
& only RE which looks good with hard panniers is Himalayan.
4) installing hard panniers & replacing spoked wheels with alloys on classic350 is like removing soul from that bike
I'd love to see a splendor vs diavel comparo
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Looking at the price point of Classic 350 top model(2.15 lakh ex without alloy wheel) I think Honda CB350/Cb350 rs would be the better choice here. It's more refined, classic with a sporty nature, better handling, better performance, better component, better quality overall for the less price.
My CB 350 RS gave the mileage of 44.5- 49.2 KMPL on highway.....running cost is very low
Biggest issue is the accessibility of service centers. Honda need better service network and a lot more bigwings.
On point but My CB350RS only giving 40-42kmpl (Kerala Road Condition) 😄
@@wonderingartist agreed 👍🏻 and it will improve service availability eventually as it gets more sales.
But one thing for sure you don't need to go to the service point again and again.
@@AnzysViews that's not a bad number 👌🏼
I am also a potential buyer but hasitating because of the distance of service centers mainly. Secondarily mud splash issue on rider and pilllion, no grab rail for pillion.
SOFA : Both of them have no sense how to sit on a sofa , and discussing Classic 350 vs Dominor 😀
Owning the Duke 390 BS6 since last 3 weeks! The bike is Damn🔥. Acceleration is brutal specially for me because I upgraded from a Honda Aviator 😅. But not the kind of bike you would like to use on daily basis specially in the city, the milage is low, the bike tends to heat up easily in traffic. The other issue is the ground clearance specially with the BS6 models. But overall it's the kind of bike you would always enjoy riding and the best part is the Quickshifter+ it does jerk sometimes and sometimes it just works flawlessly maybe because the 1st servicing is due, there is vibration though while riding in the the city you may felt it often as you have to ride it low gears but overall the experience is good till now hope for the best in future!🤞
Dominar ADV would be a fantastic option. Especially the 250CC option. 🙌 I hope Bajaj takes inputs from your team for this.
Will heat up the segment with Xpulse 200
They have the KTM ADV 250 which is close... But I agree, we need more ADV options
I don't think Bajaj can make the adv as ktm already has 250adv. Just like how tvs can't make a 310cc adventure bike.
Dunno why u guys trying so hard to make c350 a sensible option lol..
Its so severly underpowered that it simply cant be ridden with even a 200cc bike😅😅
Can not even compare claasic350 with the might Dom 400. I was surprised by Shumi comments and feel he felt opposite with what Dominar offers.
Dominar ✨❤️
In short
"Kittey paise diye, Royal Enfield wale?"
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😂😂😂
Booked the Enfield recently totally agree with the refinement part. When I rode the new Enfield couldn't believe it was this smooth
And i couldn't believe the launch bikes i took for a spin had check engine light within 2k kms. I wonder why RE engineering team can't vet the reliability part right yet😂
congrats but check sale figure it's declining per month
I have done 6500km, 14 days tour on Dominar 400 1st gen. never for once, the bike gave any trouble. yes, it's a bit awkward in slow-traffic and in taking slow u-turns, but I can trade off those weakness happily for its strengths. So, I don't agree with Pwerdrift's conclusion at all.
Both bikes are different categories motorcycle. If i ride in city than i preferred super splandor over re and domi .. if you are showoff kind of person than go for re... On the highway re feels 150 segment catagory.. duke 125 more powerful than re ..... One of my friend told me that he is frustrated with re product quality cost of the parts and breakdowns . I am riding domi sins 2018.. 78000 km zero breakdowns and services are very pocket friendly.
Both the Bajaj dominar and RE classic 350 are great motorcycles for touring with different flavor. The dominar looks modern, its fast and comfortable but its not comfortable on city traffic also its less refined to. Where as the Royal Enfield feels very good in the city, yes its not exciting to ride on the high way as compared to the dominar 400 but it get its job done. In the city the RE engine feels so relaxed and refined, i known this because i my self uses a meteor 350. The bike feels effortless to Ride in city traffic where as on the dominar its not easy. It depends up on our choice whether you wan fast motorcycle like dominar or a slow and relaxing like a classic .
The dominar is mostly well suited for highways. It can do city commutes but we need hard where as the classic its very good at both highway and city conditions, has ride quality, its fuel efficient and they are motorcycles that can be easy to live with.
Thanks guys for doing this amazing video. It was realy usefull video 🤩🤩😎
Hope you guys will do a comparison just like this between meteor and dominar as well.
The point about Keyboard Racers was soooo on point...!
Like many other videos you make, this video was sooo needed. Thanks again PowerDrift..
Also can we please have a budget 200-250 cc commuter segment comparo? I mean the FZs25, Pulsar 250 twins, Apache 200 4v are all so close priced and have more or less similar power figures but are so different to ride..
agar bajaj ne dominar 250 launch karne se achha wohi engine aur performance ke sath avenger 250 launch kiya hota thode bahot change karke, to shayad pura game change ho jata bajaj ke liye.
Rode classic 350 for 120kms once, got a bad back pain with shaky hands. And swore to never get one in life.
Don't know about the new one, but it's illogical to not able to go above 60kmph on highway. My riding time increases that much compared to a new edge bike.
Always love the energy of Shumi, it's good that Varun picked RE Classic 350. I love riding Classic 350 in early morning, no need to race, just enjoy the breeeze a music from the engine.
Chill
I test rode the classic 350 and was pleasantly surprised. It was way better than the old one. But if i jave the option to buy one, it would be d400. If the classic 350 was significantly cheaper, then it would've made a lot of sense. As it is pretty expensive, i will go for the dominar. The Dominar is a stable powerful bike. It is hard to handle in the city make no mistake about that. But the sound, brakes, tubeless supported 17 wheels and better features makes me move towards the 400.
A newbie Dominar owner here. 2023 May . If I had watched this podcast I wouldn't even try dominar firstly but fortunately I did the opposite and looks like it turned out to be a good decision to me. I feel he should present his ideas which would touch the larger audience that is the first time buyers. For them this is heavenly. I rode RE and in the first rev itself I decided am not going for it. It might be a good bike but when you look at the use case of the Dominar, it is built for highways and I have riden it in Bangalore roads and cannot describe the emaculate experience I got. Cruising at 110 is very easy on this which you can't do in RE. You don't have the fear of braking because of its dual channel ABS. The ride position suits for long rides with all the accessories given in stock . I was following all the spy shots and details of speed 400 and harley but I still felt domi is a much better machine for me in highways.
Did the right choice, buying from the first lot would have been hectic and spare parts would be a headache. Even i own 2019ug model and did test rode triumph twins. And dominar still is a comfortable choice to live with.
Having owned the dominar for 4 years now and ridden for 30k+ kms, I agree with some of the criticism w.r.t slow speed riding and handling it in traffic situations, but on the highway it’s quite good and is fairly comfortable over long distances. The only main sore point has always been the gearbox, it’s noisy and clunky, even though there aren’t any false neutrals or bad shifts it just doesn’t feel smooth or refined. Also mine being the early model initial services were a nightmare.
Dominar makes you smile enjoy your ride.... Classic is an 🐘.....
I own 220, classic 350 nd recently d dominar. All three are different. 220f is all raw power.
Classic is royalness
Bt dominar is exceptional. They should work on tank capacity and turning radius, apart from these,
Guys believe me dominar is any day favorite.
Crusing speed is around 110kmph.
Vibrations r there in evry single cylindr bike, but they are negligible. The Vibrations r not like u wil leave the bike and say chalane me mza na aa rha.
Itna sbme hota h yar.
Dominar is all about riding and covering the roads.
The road presence is phenomenon.
U remove the dug dug of bullets and nobody will see it.
Bt dominar is road king in terms of road presence.
Right.. Dug dug is so audible even from miles 🤣🤣🤣
@@bikramkumarsingh4059 bro bullet is a fine bike. Bt dug dug itna nhi psnd. Meri bullet stock exhaust k sath h. Wahi thik h. 😁. Sbko CHILLANA nhi psnd hota😂
What mileage figure can we expect from dominar 400
@@subasthapa8323 bhai 27 to 30kmpl. Not more than that that too On highways. In city it is around 23aprox
@@TheGhoomneWala thanks 👍
0:43 🤣
9:54 Sir You Are 🤙🏻🤣
I am very F-in shocked. Comparing both the bikes and RE dominating in almost every sec for me. Specifically to the point where they said Dominar vibrates and classic 350 doesn't. I took a test ride of new 350 and the way it moved on streets and the smoothness it has... Uffff!
What a great video 👍👍😀😀Loved it!!!!! Btw we have also been asking you for a comparison video between 125cc bikes. We want to know which 125cc bike is the best in your opinion!!!!
Raider vs NS125 vs Duke 125
08:57
"The biggest difference between these two motorcycles is flavour!"
Now that's Shumi ladies and gentlemen.. 👍👌
For me, I like to go long distance, and i don't think i can do it on RE because i dont have all the time in the world for it, Its such a slow Bike, Dominar can cover distance Quick AF
I can literally hear these two guys talk about bikes for eternity!!
Very true... Any bike can tour... I did my first long ride on my old 150cc LML beamer 😂... From Pune to Goa to Bangalore to Kodaikanal just for some fresh 🍄🍄🍄...
Another superb point, that every motorcycle can tour. I did my Ladakh trip on my Avenger 160 street.
True
Avenger 160 street is capable
@@nikhildas2183 yes quite capable
4yrs 35000+ on odo, 1st gen Dom, cruising 90 aaram sey, No pillion, had back luggage, 32+ mileage, 100-150km a break, 450 - 500 km rides.
Love your comparison videos. ❤️
Classic fanboy:- dominar me dug dug awaaz nahi aati 🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣 true...
I literally asked for it. I know both are diff. I use to love dominar for it looks n all but when i tested it.. I realised it is not for me. I have used classic bt i hate that vibrations so it was not in my list. So when the new classic came n after watching many reviews i am convinced to buy it. Will test n then take the decision
Suggest take both the bikes for a ride.
Shumi got this completely wrong. He has no clue what Dominar is capable off. His grip is something else with Bajaj. His main complaint is the weight the classic too is has the same weight
@@user-wb3fo1sj8m which is not bad in dominar with that engine you will not feel that much of a weight and dominor is better in handling when compared to classic 350
Dominar is still the most VFM and most comfortable bike for long tours in its segment, I travelled from Guwahati to Nainital, great handling, great road grip, Great cold start capabilities, even in -10 degree Celsius. Both are good motorcycle in their own segment.
Its not that Shumi Hates Dominar, He's just a different kind of riders (He likes KTM Duke) Dominar is good Highway cruiser but definitely not City Friendly, Off-road Friendly or Even Pothole Friendly (And definitely not a cornering Machine)
Soo Yes, If I have choose one, I'll go with Adv 250 or Duke 250 with Little more money
And RE? It sucks man its just people buy that by heart not from their brain
And Its a No match against Domi, And Just like Domi is no Match for KTM
In 2021 Indian higheays with 4 lane roads when i go with Dominar while ta time of any overtaking i feel the power. It is a power cruiser meant to cruise on highways like ours and lastly India now do got some of the good highways. No need to mock Indian highways. Classic is good & comfortable but power dude power. On highway we need that power and weight. Its not a street naked bike to do flip flops brothers.
Thanks for this episode!! 👍
Yeah, I agree, Dominar is way heavy at the front, however I need that pump of sportiness what it offers!!
Classic is a laid back touring!!
By the way ...I always liked 390 Duke .....but somehow looked very small....for the bike of 3 L ...though never ridden.....!!
So succint as always - @Shumi. Spec sheet is probably on the lower end of a long list of items which all come together to make the bike. A composite experience.
I had the classic 350 uce, currently on the dominar, planning to go back to the classic again 😅 ...any thoughts ?
same here 😅
Too expensive now
@@athullal7438 everything today is expensive....i got the UCE CLASSIC for 1.5L on road, now it's 2.5L but that was like 6yrs ago
@@SOUTHLADBLR Yeah it's a new engine but the power figures are the same, there's even a drop in the torque. What's the point in paying too much now?
@@athullal7438 inflation
@powerdrift
Did you forget to notice the technical advantages of dominar against the RE ..
* Slip and assist clutch
*320mm disc at front 230 at rear
* 6 speed transmission
* liquid cooled engine
*perimeter frame
* USD FORKS
*LED headlamp
* gear Position indicators
* 28nm torque at low Rpm
* strong mid range
* diamond cut alloy wheels
* better touring setup by manufacturer
* Value for money .
"Get off the internet." You just killed them! 😂
I have ridden both these bikes extensively...the first gen Domi and the old classic 350...What you guys has said is true...ride quality is on stiffer side on Domi and its steering is front heavy...on some occasions you simply wish to ride on an easy riding bike like the classic...its easily flickable...and you get to slowly enjoy the views listening to the slow thump...