Hey if you think about it, Ritcher and Mithos are almost the same. They're both half-elves, they want to revive someone close to them (Even though everyone else would suffer in the process), they tried to achieve their methods through various organizations...and they're both stubborn as hell.
IMO i think that if you fought richter in like a normal form, then he transformed into THIS form then the final boss wouldve been alittle more fun to fight
none of them will get a cameo appearance in the coliseum in like 5-10 more games. I mean it took up to Vesperia for them to include someone from Symphonia as cameo lol. So you have A LOT of time to wait if you want those 3 as cameos :P
My party was: Emil Lloyd Zelos Genis Both my Marta and Raine always seemed to be Richter's first targets, so I opted for a more offensive approach and to rack up those combos. That said, brilliant fight and AMAZING battle theme! One of the greatest ever, Motoi Sakuraba is king! Tales of Symphonia and Dawn of the New World forever, most beautiful JRPGs and cast of characters I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. =)
Collette herself says "My opinion may not matter much because I don't use an exsphere." so that's a pretty good indication that they aren't counted, as cruxis crystals are only evolved forms of exspheres. Also why Zelos uses his exsphere as an alternative while he leaves with his cruxis crystal with his sister in the abbey throughout most of the game.
@AzureDragoonGX well i mean duke moves and forms and vans moves and forms were pretty much the same but with just a few altered moves, so it was just some idea or something
You know I never really expected Ritcher to be the final boss. I assumed it was gonna be Ratatosk. Anyway, first time I fought this guy, I got my ass kicked (though it was worth it to hear this epic theme again). I had Lloyd and Colette assisting me then. But I loved this theme so much that I didn't mind losing xD
THE best final boss theme. EVER. A close second is Rebel Against Destiny from the PS2 Remake of Tales of Destiny. They both have a similar feel to them. But this still takes the cake. Also, when I got here, I was only level 48 with Emil, and 44 with Marta :D I Used Emil, Lloyd, Zelos, and Regal. Zelos is actually quite the healer, and Shining Bind is just awesome. But Regal's Final Wolf Mystic Arte works well against Richter because of Elements. Kudos on beating the great game, Omega!
(continued) we don't know why Zelos left his cruxis crystal with Seles but we can assume that it's because he didn't need it since the world regeneration wasn't taking place as they serve two different functions. Exspheres being more common is inconsequential since Zelos has a cruxis crystal (and also inaccurate as Sheena explicitly stated that they weren't common.) Finally, Lloyd sets off on a journey to destroy exspheres while Kratos discards the cruxis crystals into space.
You can play as either Emil or Marta normally, and during battle you can press C to change which player you're controlling. So if you want to, once you get Lloyd back you can switch to him at the beginning of every fight.
When Colette said that, she had no idea that Cruxis Crystals are evolved from Exspheres. That was back in the World Regeneration Journey arc, when everybody pretty much didn't know shit. Zelos does that because of 3 reasons: 1) Exspheres are common in Tethe'alla, 2) Zelos' Cruxis Crystal is unnecessary, since Tethe'alla does not currently need a World Regen Journey to take place. 3) Zelos loves his sister, and she envies being the Chosen. Zelos leaves it with her to make her feel important.
@FireEmblem3 He was going to use the demon's power to revive Aster, then double cross them by sealing off the Ginungagap. Thus Aster will be alive again and the world will be saved.
@TeamXtremeRules1010- You don't have to use another remote to play as someone else. During battle, bring up the menu and press the C button to cycle through the non-monster characters you have in the attack party. Then get out of the menu, and you'll be in control of that character.
This game may be a spin-off but its still pretty popular and it still has one of the most epic final boss fights in the series and has the one of,if not, the best final boss theme in the series,lets see if Tales of Graces can top this
I wish Marta would be smart in casting Enhance cast. Although it surprised me that someone actually uses the spell compared to another character that has it. And wow the game is that short how long did you have this game again? I was hoping to have Sonic Unleashed before you beat this.
well there are 1 or 2 more battles (that depends on what ending you go for), but those last 2 aren't as epic as this one. So for me (and for a lot of people as well) Richter is the final boss.
What was the combo you used for emil? I guess I should use arcane artes more, I just spam the sky combos followed by havoc strike, or the ground comboes>EX Attack>Savage Reaper
its around 30-35 hours if you don't rush, shorter than the first game, but I'm definitelly going for a 2nd playthrough. It could last you a month if you don't play it every day like me XD
if you can go back to towns then do so. just keep doing quests and synthesizing your items so you can be the best you can. i dont know if i am exceeding in playing the game, but i am still doing the light frog quest when i met regal, and i am already at level 30. ...what monster comes after the fenrir, grisley, and manticore? and what would be the best monsters to have throgh out the whole game?
maybe I will, I have heard there is also a scene with Kratos in your 2nd playthrough before the romantic scene with Emil and Marta, so I'm interested in that as well. Besides after watching the Normal Ending I really wonder what more "Good" can the true ending get? lol
i have a question when u beat the game does it like let you continue like some games or is it 1 of those games that only let u replay the last fight sum1 plz reply thx
In this battle, I used Emil, Zelos, Raine and Lloyd. I lost once (damn him for his Mystic Art spamming!!) and the second time around, I forgot to take Zelos out and put Marta in. I won, but barely. So I suppose that the lesson of my story is to keep Marta in the party against bosses if she's available.
I know full well what incites the transformation, I also know that they are considered to be an evolved form of exsphere. Regardless of what causes the transformation, it can't be disputed that THERE is a transformation. Just like Collette's cruxis crystal is different from an exsphere, Lloyd's fierce demon fang/double demon fang is different from demon fang and so on. The evidence doesn't disagree -- you do. Zelos uses an exphere instead of a cruxis crystal because one elicits the user's
My friend and I beat it so much that now we try for gender teams.... Girls: Marta-Me, Persea-Him, Colette-CPU, Raine-CPU Boys: Emil: Me/CPU, Regal-Him, Lloyd: Me/CPU, Genis-CPU We haven't won the boys one, but we beat him with girls in 4 minutes. xD
i like going in the air rather than staying on the ground because u can get 13 normal hits then use ravaging tiger then havoc strike then if u go fast enough u can use heavenly tempest for good amounts of damage. plus while u are hitting ur 13 hits u heal tp and ravaging tiger and havoc strike equal only 10 tp... but heavenly tempest uses 20 so.. not bad. also i put on the tenitrus skill(or however u spell it) making ravaging tiger stronger.
The form Richter takes during the final battle is very similar to the form Abysson took during the hidden boss fight in the last game. I suppose it's logical though, since if I remember correctly, they both made similar pacts.
@eidius1989 He left Flamberge at his mothers grave as his and Kratos present. I don't know about the other one. Well you see they donÄt need 2 seconds for him so i think your theory is kinda wrong.
This boss was WAY TOO EASY! (thumbs up if u agree) My team: 1.Emile (me) 2.Marta (my sister) 3.Lloyd (my brother) 4.Raine (my sisters friend) Ritcher is more badass than Mithos but Mithos is still better.
@evilbloo u press z or a special mystic arte is i thing z+b but u got to put in something like the thing that makes faster escapes. i think its artes but im probably wronge
hey omega i just want to know how you get unknown mode in dotnw? i beat the game on unknown once and i want to play unknown mode on my new playthru but it won't let me. do you know what to do?
I must of been underleveled or something. I was at level 50 or 51 with Emil and level 50 with Marta. I used Emil, Marta, Lloyd, and Zelos, mainly so i could have 4 humans that could use items whenever.
well after fenfir is just the wolf again, so i wouldnt evolve fenfir unless you want a different form of the wolf. After grisley is cave bear...and after manticore is . Well personally ive had a Fenfir throughout the whole game. And i recommend having a dragon monster like a wyvern lord. And a plant monster like Korrigan. And you should buy spells for your momnsters, first aid, healing circle, etc. :D
such an easy boss i was on a roll with the emil/lloyd combo attacks. My team: Emil,Lloyd,Genis,and Raine. as soon as i got Lloyd Genis and Raine together i completely stopped using Marta unless i really have to. other than that the last area of the game marta was rendered usless to me because i had raine as my heal and support
fun fact:
2 years ago I thought ftw was wtf backwards D:
fuck the what? XD
love how in the beginning of the battle you just see those two and then llyod comes flying in dashing at the opponent lol
Hey if you think about it, Ritcher and Mithos are almost the same. They're both half-elves, they want to revive someone close to them (Even though everyone else would suffer in the process), they tried to achieve their methods through various organizations...and they're both stubborn as hell.
IMO i think that if you fought richter in like a normal form, then he transformed into THIS form then the final boss wouldve been alittle more fun to fight
instablaster.
The best way to beat this guy is to wear two upgraded water capes on Emil and Marta (Yeah, I forgot what they're called)
Lloyd is like: I can finally run freely.
none of them will get a cameo appearance in the coliseum in like 5-10 more games. I mean it took up to Vesperia for them to include someone from Symphonia as cameo lol. So you have A LOT of time to wait if you want those 3 as cameos :P
My party was:
Emil
Lloyd
Zelos
Genis
Both my Marta and Raine always seemed to be Richter's first targets, so I opted for a more offensive approach and to rack up those combos.
That said, brilliant fight and AMAZING battle theme! One of the greatest ever, Motoi Sakuraba is king! Tales of Symphonia and Dawn of the New World forever, most beautiful JRPGs and cast of characters I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. =)
Collette herself says "My opinion may not matter much because I don't use an exsphere." so that's a pretty good indication that they aren't counted, as cruxis crystals are only evolved forms of exspheres. Also why Zelos uses his exsphere as an alternative while he leaves with his cruxis crystal with his sister in the abbey throughout most of the game.
The first time I fought this battle I just couldn't get myself to kill Richter...
I was slaughtered. not that I expected sympathy from him...
Wow one of the most epic fights i've seen in the Tales series. Good job Omega!
@AzureDragoonGX well i mean duke moves and forms and vans moves and forms were pretty much the same but with just a few altered moves, so it was just some idea or something
The soundtrack to this battle is one of the best out of the video games I have played. I often just start the battle, pause it and enjoy the music.
I play as I want to play the game.
period.
You know I never really expected Ritcher to be the final boss. I assumed it was gonna be Ratatosk. Anyway, first time I fought this guy, I got my ass kicked (though it was worth it to hear this epic theme again). I had Lloyd and Colette assisting me then. But I loved this theme so much that I didn't mind losing xD
Mine was Savage Reaper, Havoc Strike, and either Sword rain: Alpha, Demons Rage, or Light Spear Cannon at random.
He hates it when the bad guys say it.
THE best final boss theme. EVER. A close second is Rebel Against Destiny from the PS2 Remake of Tales of Destiny. They both have a similar feel to them. But this still takes the cake.
Also, when I got here, I was only level 48 with Emil, and 44 with Marta :D I Used Emil, Lloyd, Zelos, and Regal. Zelos is actually quite the healer, and Shining Bind is just awesome. But Regal's Final Wolf Mystic Arte works well against Richter because of Elements.
Kudos on beating the great game, Omega!
(continued) we don't know why Zelos left his cruxis crystal with Seles but we can assume that it's because he didn't need it since the world regeneration wasn't taking place as they serve two different functions. Exspheres being more common is inconsequential since Zelos has a cruxis crystal (and also inaccurate as Sheena explicitly stated that they weren't common.) Finally, Lloyd sets off on a journey to destroy exspheres while Kratos discards the cruxis crystals into space.
Epic how Lloyd finished him off with that awesome move!
You can play as either Emil or Marta normally, and during battle you can press C to change which player you're controlling. So if you want to, once you get Lloyd back you can switch to him at the beginning of every fight.
The Tales series never cease to amaze me
When Colette said that, she had no idea that Cruxis Crystals are evolved from Exspheres. That was back in the World Regeneration Journey arc, when everybody pretty much didn't know shit.
Zelos does that because of 3 reasons:
1) Exspheres are common in Tethe'alla,
2) Zelos' Cruxis Crystal is unnecessary, since Tethe'alla does not currently need a World Regen Journey to take place.
3) Zelos loves his sister, and she envies being the Chosen. Zelos leaves it with her to make her feel important.
@FireEmblem3 He was going to use the demon's power to revive Aster, then double cross them by sealing off the Ginungagap. Thus Aster will be alive again and the world will be saved.
You can play as any character. (You can see the 1P icon on Lloyd for the last half of the battle.) Emil and Marta are just the center of the story.
@TeamXtremeRules1010- You don't have to use another remote to play as someone else. During battle, bring up the menu and press the C button to cycle through the non-monster characters you have in the attack party. Then get out of the menu, and you'll be in control of that character.
This game may be a spin-off but its still pretty popular and it still has one of the most epic final boss fights in the series and has the one of,if not, the best final boss theme in the series,lets see if Tales of Graces can top this
I beat the game too, and I agree. This is the best final battle ever!
ikr!! one of the greatest boss fight themes in my opinion
The fact that its better than the way Luke drew his. Yes.
I wish Marta would be smart in casting Enhance cast. Although it surprised me that someone actually uses the spell compared to another character that has it. And wow the game is that short how long did you have this game again? I was hoping to have Sonic Unleashed before you beat this.
well there are 1 or 2 more battles (that depends on what ending you go for), but those last 2 aren't as epic as this one. So for me (and for a lot of people as well) Richter is the final boss.
Rofl at Lloyd just sprinting in right as the start of the fight.
What was the combo you used for emil? I guess I should use arcane artes more, I just spam the sky combos followed by havoc strike, or the ground comboes>EX Attack>Savage Reaper
its around 30-35 hours if you don't rush, shorter than the first game, but I'm definitelly going for a 2nd playthrough. It could last you a month if you don't play it every day like me XD
if you can go back to towns then do so. just keep doing quests and synthesizing your items so you can be the best you can. i dont know if i am exceeding in playing the game, but i am still doing the light frog quest when i met regal, and i am already at level 30. ...what monster comes after the fenrir, grisley, and manticore? and what would be the best monsters to have throgh out the whole game?
maybe I will, I have heard there is also a scene with Kratos in your 2nd playthrough before the romantic scene with Emil and Marta, so I'm interested in that as well. Besides after watching the Normal Ending I really wonder what more "Good" can the true ending get? lol
i love the song of this battle
best boss-battle-song i´ve ever heard
(wilderness of sadness or something like that its called)
00:45 No, Richter. You ARE the demons.
Yes, there is! You can go as high as 10x Experience, but you need 2000 Grade for it. I took 2x Exp for 300 Grade, just for fun.
No, she was using an exsphere. You can fight her in the coliseum even after you get Zelos' cruxis crystal from her in the SE Abbey.
You have to win this one.
The other two are optional, so this is considered the final boss.
Damn, did you see Lloyd at the beginning of the battle? He didn't waste anytime :D! I so love this game!
aster was ricther`s first human friend and research partner
You can do it! Stop Richter! This is so epic!!
when Ricther uses any of his mystical arts.... i could only think, '' i'm done for..''
It's in order...
But Cless was an eternia cameo!
i have a question when u beat the game does it like let you continue like some games or is it 1 of those games that only let u replay the last fight sum1 plz reply thx
Question: is it possible for you to make a vid on all the spells on ToS:DoaNW??? Like you did for ToV for Estelle, Rita and that other guy???
(part 3) they are named something different entirely. And if you still don't understand then that's okay.
In this battle, I used Emil, Zelos, Raine and Lloyd. I lost once (damn him for his Mystic Art spamming!!) and the second time around, I forgot to take Zelos out and put Marta in.
I won, but barely. So I suppose that the lesson of my story is to keep Marta in the party against bosses if she's available.
Fell arm duke was like a light version of this.
yeah, but I didn't want to battle anymore, I had my dosis of epicness already with Richter :P
one question omega do you need to be emil the whole game or are you also able to play as loyld himself again?
He's in one small optional cutscene available from your second playthrough and up. Other than that, he's just the narrator and that's it.
I know full well what incites the transformation, I also know that they are considered to be an evolved form of exsphere. Regardless of what causes the transformation, it can't be disputed that THERE is a transformation. Just like Collette's cruxis crystal is different from an exsphere, Lloyd's fierce demon fang/double demon fang is different from demon fang and so on. The evidence doesn't disagree -- you do. Zelos uses an exphere instead of a cruxis crystal because one elicits the user's
My friend and I beat it so much that now we try for gender teams....
Girls: Marta-Me, Persea-Him, Colette-CPU, Raine-CPU
Boys: Emil: Me/CPU, Regal-Him, Lloyd: Me/CPU, Genis-CPU
We haven't won the boys one, but we beat him with girls in 4 minutes. xD
Nice finishin move with Lloyd
no mams amo el min. 3:35 las "Mystic Arte" se combinan perfectamente con la musika de fondo
i like going in the air rather than staying on the ground because u can get 13 normal hits then use ravaging tiger then havoc strike then if u go fast enough u can use heavenly tempest for good amounts of damage. plus while u are hitting ur 13 hits u heal tp and ravaging tiger and havoc strike equal only 10 tp... but heavenly tempest uses 20 so.. not bad. also i put on the tenitrus skill(or however u spell it) making ravaging tiger stronger.
The form Richter takes during the final battle is very similar to the form Abysson took during the hidden boss fight in the last game.
I suppose it's logical though, since if I remember correctly, they both made similar pacts.
Notice how Lloyd and Emil did pretty much everything
Awesome battle. Lloyd's hi-ougi owns.
@eidius1989
He left Flamberge at his mothers grave as his and Kratos present. I don't know about the other one. Well you see they donÄt need 2 seconds for him so i think your theory is kinda wrong.
Awesome. By the way, I agree with your opinion on the music. MUCH better than Vesperia to be sure IMO.
sweet Llyod still has that move at the end
His attacks are a little slow. I like using fast characters. Like Emil.
Shouldn't take me long then. But I'm gonna wait for Sonic Unleashed before I start this game.
it would have taken me less time, but I did a lot of Katz Guild Quests that consumed my time XD. Oh well, it made the game last longer :)
When Richter does his mystic artes, his pic reminds me of Fell Arm Duke O_o
Best song ever on the tales series
@hireplas they're practically clones in terms of fighting, so Im not so sure about that
I did this boss severely underleveled during my first run through. I had Marta and Zelos healing while Emil and my Fenrir did the heavy damage.
Richter's glasses never break because Chuck Norris made them.
WOW. My party was at the exact same levels as I got up to this...
It was a nice way to end it with Falcon's Crest
Actually I've noticed that all the villains have a mixed form of justice.
i lost this fight so many times before a realized that Raine would make a better choice than Collette...
at 1:59 i was like HOLY CRAP! Lloyd just booked it XD
Haha!! Even though I had just seen Zelos, when I saw Richter from the back I'm like WHAT???
I finally beat him after my fourth try. I had Emil, Marta, Lloyd and my Cerberus, Gaia.
This boss was WAY TOO EASY! (thumbs up if u agree)
My team:
1.Emile (me)
2.Marta (my sister)
3.Lloyd (my brother)
4.Raine (my sisters friend)
Ritcher is more badass than Mithos but Mithos is still better.
@blarghblargh5 peoplethought it was bad because lloyd's voice wasn't the same no more.
SCOTT MENVILLE- TEEN TITANS
It was a secret dungeon.
Just wondering, are you going to give ur thoughts about this game too? o.o i really like to read those "reviews" of yours.
@evilbloo u press z or a special mystic arte is i thing z+b but u got to put in something like the thing that makes faster escapes. i think its artes but im probably wronge
actually i did falcons crest with out the title (i preformed it in the noble man suit) genis' you just need indignation and collete you need holy song
Emil (51)
Marta (51)
Lloyd (50 I think)
Gaia (70)
Lloyd moves much more smooth in the first game. It's like he's rusty :]
Love this game, beat it several times.
Nice video and nice 192 combo :D
hey omega i just want to know how you get unknown mode in dotnw? i beat the game on unknown once and i want to play unknown mode on my new playthru but it won't let me. do you know what to do?
I must of been underleveled or something. I was at level 50 or 51 with Emil and level 50 with Marta.
I used Emil, Marta, Lloyd, and Zelos, mainly so i could have 4 humans that could use items whenever.
you hold - down
well after fenfir is just the wolf again, so i wouldnt evolve fenfir unless you want a different form of the wolf. After grisley is cave bear...and after manticore is . Well personally ive had a Fenfir throughout the whole game. And i recommend having a dragon monster like a wyvern lord. And a plant monster like Korrigan. And you should buy spells for your momnsters, first aid, healing circle, etc. :D
Cruxis Crystals are Exspheres, too...
this boss theme is awesome!
now we all would get DESTROYED if mithos abbyssion and richter were combined
such an easy boss i was on a roll with the emil/lloyd combo attacks. My team: Emil,Lloyd,Genis,and Raine. as soon as i got Lloyd Genis and Raine together i completely stopped using Marta unless i really have to. other than that the last area of the game marta was rendered usless to me because i had raine as my heal and support
@meepfeet um wrong person dude i have no clue what your talking about
I have to say thanks to Raine cause she absorbed all the damage from richter mystic arte : )
btw what happens to the Expheres in Symphonia 2? are they destroyed or do Emil and all the people have them?