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There is one way that CDPR execs can redeem themselves from this PR nightmare; they all need to T-Pose naked on motorbikes with a sign that says, "We're sorry, Choombas"
CDPR is gonna have a mass exodus of developers from the studio. I bet some will start new companies and CDPR will forever be a shell of its self prob off to make live service games while milking the witcher 3 forever
@Howdy Yeah I thought that was strange as well, first they act like creating a good product is the most important factor for them and next thing you know they pull this kinda shit. Things like this happens everywhere in every industry, I'm really starting to have a hard time trusting another human being...
It's getting serious: Polish investors are preparing a class-action lawsuit against CDPR. The polish edition of Business Insider wrote yesterday that individual investors of CD Projekt Red are preparing a class-action lawsuit against the board members for deliberately lying about the state of the game and putting the investors at risk. In Polish law it's "misrepresentation to obtain financial benefits" and it's a crime.
If anything it's more that developers shouldn't half ass the game because of pre-orders because this can happen. Everyone who bought the game can get a refund no problem. The one suffering is the company.
Why do you think you should feel bad? The game has been delayed 3 times and they still released a buggy mess. What state was it in before the first delay when they were happily taking peoples pre-order money. Game devs are scum who charge far to much for hot garbage and deny refunds for their misleading products which outside the US is actually illegal.
*Publishers, not game devs. Game devs don’t make executive marketing decisions, they just make the models and code and levels and what have you. Blaming game developers who have no say other than what a specific character model looks like is like a customer blaming a lowly clerk like me for something the CEO of the company did-which is exactly what the customers at my store do, unfortunately.
I did entertain the idea that I might get 2077 a year or two from now because there might, at the very least, be a passable $20 game under all the glitches, but CD Projekt’s decisions as the week wore on left an increasingly bad taste in my mouth. I have better things to do with my time and money than support a broken game from a scummy charity like they were some poor, poor orphan child.
Unfortunately the programmers and artists will be the ones feeling most of the fallout from lay-offs and pay cuts. The leadership are already multimillionaires...
i’d actually be happy if they did that if it meant later in the future they would release an amazing game that ran well and with the features that they advertised
@@derfalke9178 the thing is CDPR announced they would wait until after the holidays to give their devs a chance to rest. Which ended up being a lie I guess since they are working again and just released 1.05 according to IGN
The joke's on you then because I've seen it coming a mile away, in fact I called it after the initial delay (the very first one). Man I'm good at these things.
@@Shadow4192008 true. their vision and goals for CP77 is so high and their marketing keeps delivering promises when still in middle of development. any neutral person would be wary by that
"the irony of Cyberpunk's themes revolving largely around corporate exploitation and CD Projekt acting like a typical corpo" Well, duh. Corporations ALWAYS hijack rebelliousness. True rebellion has no power anymore. The big "rebels" are swindlers further perpetuating the norm.
Yeah, it's the freaking stock market again. Why do people keep listing their companies in the stock market? You lose almost all control of the company and become beholden to shareholders.
@@elxero2189 Can you really blame people for wanting and believing in something good, though? Which, of course, is exactly why it works. Honesty may have been viable in the old days, but organized crime and global technology changed the game.
As software developer I can just say, that giving unrealistic project finish date by supervisors who know shit about project is as common as their greed for milking customers money.
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz I would assume those actually developing the game would be able to give more realistic deadlines. Often it’s the higher ups without any proper knowledge of the state of the game, set deadlines. Why there ends up being ‘crunch time’ and lots of overtime. I believed the delays to be a good sign, recognizing the current release date was unrealistic, delaying the game. The fact they delayed the game this much and it was still released in this state is unacceptable. Developers knew the state, have to assume they informed leadership but were ignored. Reviews for previous gens before release date not being allowed says enough that this is on leadership, not those on the ground.
I can’t say for andromeda, but I know for anthem it was a lot of ‘what do you think of this idea?’ ‘Hmm, not sure, let’s mull it over for a while’ later...’yeah, I guess we can include it.’ Later again...’actually, we’d prefer to do something else’ and repeat. This is very much among higher ups, not the actual developers bringing the ideas to life. Like you said, spent years deciding on the game, then expecting the game to produced in no time at all. They actually believed that the developers could produce as a game, the movie they’d produced for E3 in the time frame they gave. I will say for anthem, there was a funny bug, that was how the beginner gun was stronger than end game guns, because of how the scaling worked. Idk how that doesn’t fall on the developers at fault and being blamed on the crunch instead. Crunch must’ve not helped, but that’s a huge game breaking bug to be missed. I do think, majority of the time, the fault does fall with the higher ups, having unrealistic time frame expectations. Unfortunately the ‘overtime’ often isn’t compensated.
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz Workplace Democracy sounds like a good idea, then the decision would be made by the people actually involved with production who know what they fuck they're talking about and what they're doing.
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz I find that strict hierarchy is not as vital and effective as modern society (which is founded on strict hierarchy and thus has a vested interest in perpetuating the idea that said hierarchy is extremely necessary) makes it out to be. Decentralization of authority and equal investment of associated parties is quite effective at curtailing the ills of managerial incompetence and corruption. Make every employee a member of the Board, with equal shares of the company and thusly equal investment and say. It's not a pipe dream, there are plenty of successful co-ops that confirm it's not just possible, but effective.
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz they need to give reasonable deadlines. This isn't the first game ever made. The data exist, they know what a reasonable deadline is. I believe the execs are responsible for setting deadlines and they should have had the progress/project audited to decide how much more time is needed. Cyberpunk 2077 was only released because of Christmas. Edit: in a huge company like CDPR, the A top-down approach is the best way to go. The execs just failed at it.
Not if you have a decent PC, I'm about 50 hours in and have been having a blast with almost no bugs. (At least no more than you would expect from any good open world game)
“Intentionally hiding any revealing footage on base console and unprecedentedly force reviewers to choose between pc review code only or no review codes at all. That’s the scummed think you could, Bethesda would would be proud of you
Actually, this is the one area where they were worse than Bethesda. Bethesda, at the very least, sent out actual review copies of Fallout 76 for all consoles.
I also feel a bit reminded to No Man's Sky. The game is out for years, and the developer is still updating it. Its probably a pretty nice game now, which comes much closer to what everybody expected it to be, but who gives a damn now??
@@asnierkishcowboy To be fair No Man's Sky is amazing right now. I bought it a few months ago and I love it. But I fully agree with you. If No Man's Sky released as it is now then it would've been a massive success and an absolute monster in terms of moneymaking. But as we all know, it didn't release in it's current state.
@@asnierkishcowboy I mean it’s not nearly as big as it could’ve been but plenty of people are still playing or have started playing for the first time since it’s so much better now.
@@panpan9140 There is a small sidequest for each but otherwise no, just a few orifin specific dialog lines here and there. I think the origin story is mostly there to influence you how you want to roleplay your character and what decisions you want to make during the game and especially at the end. Like my Corpo character who ended up becoming a Nomad in the end because in my headcanon he grew a distaste for corpo and city-life crap.
Except we would and it will be a bastard move just like ea, activision and bethesda. The witcher 3 was a fluke - cdpr (the witcher 3 is goat for me but after playing cyberpunk 2077 i cn say that cp2077 has no ai, its just artificial with no intelligence)
When that line "it runs surprisingly well on current gen consoles" was first floated around I started suspecting. Why was that a surprise? Wasn't it supposed to run well on current gen, given its development time.
I'm just sick and tired of getting hyped up, only for a game to be released with a "ship now, fix later" mentality from the companies selling this shit.
@@mohammadsaleem5990 can be hard, even I had trouble not getting hyped for cyberpunk, despite trying not to see yt videos about it. I never get caught in hype.
Well you should of realized before this that cd project was a crap company. Witcher didn’t release well either. What the hell made you think this would of been? Since destiny I’ve learned to watch and read what I see carefully and I’ve been 90 percent right on every game released “being good or bad”. I was actually wrong on squadrons. I thought that would of blown but man 10/10 by angry joe... really off lol
@@zacharynyberg7007 To be clear, I was skeptical of it, but good games are so few and far between. I was honestly just trying to be hopeful more than anything. I remember the Witcher 3 launch just as good as anyone else :D
It’s interesting how this company had been rated as the most valuable development studio before the launch and now all of this. The executives who made the decision to lie to everyone should be fired without bonuses or compensation payouts.
If this was not during work from home, I would have them meet in before all the developers, then have them each bring coffee and whatever the developers need, all day until the last developer leaves for the day. And have them work in the canteen staff. At no place can they speak to the developers, only take request. Then in 6 months I would let them go without severance pay. They have to FEEL the anger in their employees.
Yeah, and that's the big thing here: Don't put this on the developers, this was a failure in project management and the project leaders are who should be facing this harsh criticism. They were the ones spearheading the game's development and most likely were the ones propagating all the lies and deception in the marketing and what have you.
@@imjustsomeguy5048 It's only natural that the devs are going to be blamed. People are out for blood here, they want CDPR to go under and the people to suffer. That means every single person within the organization needs to suffer, devs included. People can argue "not everyone wants CDPR to go bankrupt", but realistically when it comes to the internet, all it takes are a few people loud enough for the sentiment to snowball. The devs must suffer to appease these people, but even if they do suffer, the people won't forgive them - there is no such thing as getting good will back with many people, once it's gone, people will move on. It's like No Man's Sky - sure the game might be in an alright state now, but what most people will remember is that the entire team behind No Man's Sky are scam artists. People are quick to unleash hate, but forgiveness is often the last thing on their minds. Every employee in CDPR will be punished for this whether it's right or wrong, it's just how mob justice works.
@IQ_The_Prophet They won’t add loot boxes. They re are different kinds of wrong doings. They lied to make more profit, but would not make children/gamers gambling addicted for the money. The world is not black and white. There are different shades
Unfortunately I have the feeling that in the coming weeks we'll see another Schreier investigation of shit that happened behind the scenes of the company revealing the game was in preproduction for 6 years and only 2 in production, features were cut and changed numerous times etc etc. It's so obvious that they rushed this thing out of the door just to throw it into the christmas market. Some of the most obvious signs for me is the weapon room in V's apartment that looks like it was meant to showcase your weapons but you can't do nothing with it
I was honestly thinking that too. I mean, Anthem had 7 years. Cyberpunk had 8. It seems highly likely that some sort of shenanigans happened behind the scenes.
Fact: they did not spend 8 years developing, yes it was their intention originally but found out they couldn't do it with Witcher 3 development at same time. So they only really started _after_ witcher 3. So 5 years, not 8!
This is the difference between Sony and the rest of the developers. Insomniac can work on Spiderman, Spiderman: Miles Morales, Spiderman 2, and Ratchet and Clank Drift Apart simultaneously.
I am a casual gamer, I don't believe any hype. Not over movies, not over books, not over games. Always make your own impression of the actual thing, before consuming something.
And supposed to run well 🤣🤣🤣 Rockstar better take notes. Agreed. Which is why I FEAR for GTA 6. The hype is unbelievable right now and fans are waiting to pop for any hints towards GTA. Rockstar better take notes. Same thing with Cyberpunk, GTA 6 was made for LAST GEN and developed on last consoles. Once it launches, it should run smooth asf on last gen and be UPGRADED on next gen. Not like cyberpunk.
What's more, this scandal would be enough to make even the most controversial companies, like Bethesda or EA, red faced. Imagine how it must feel to a company that was once universally beloved like CDPR...
I wrote an article about how CDPR is the developer to look at as the industry leader, when they announced free witcher 3 next gen updates 😅 now i feel stupid..
@@SahilG23 Nobody, except a few people could've predicted this would happen. Don't beat yourself up haha. The devs and higher ups are to blame for this
Got that right...thought December would be the respite from the shit storm. But nah, Double sucker punch back to back Pornhub gets deleted AND cyperpunk's a dumpster fire... What's the point of continuing to live at this point?
They would’ve loss money, people forget ps4 and xbox1 combined is 160 million consoles sold. Way more than PC and next gen consoles so CDPR would’ve lost so much money regardless
It looks less blurry ( don't look at your reflection tho) but other than that its still buggy, the texture pop up is like a snail on a verge of xanax overdose, certain hud that should not be on the screen cannot be remove, its a struggle to switch camera while driving, The enemy AI is a f.... Joke just..... Sigh i cant even get a refund since in my country most of the retailers are independent so its already a struggle screw these people
I noticed that vehicles now show damage too. I don't remember that being in game before 1.05. BUT crashes are still abundant and as Yong's new vid points out, saves are being corrupted after save file reaches 8mb. A save file size not seen since the PS2
I feel for the devs. I mean, can you imagine trying to get a new job after this? As soon as a company sees Cyberpunk 2077 on your resume they are going to have a lot of questions even if none of this was your fault. And, as a very long time fan of cyberpunk the genre and Cyberpunk the IP, this just really makes me sad. It just really sucks to know that a genre and IP you love are being dragged through the mud because of this kind of bullshit. This could and should have been a resurgence and instead it may have killed large scale interest altogether. Cyberpunk is now going to be a laughing stock even if it has nothing to do with this CD Projekt Red failure.
A lot of hiring groups and agencies tend to look more at your portfolio, yes, failed games in your resume could take a damper, but they care more about the item you made and what the quality is. Some agencies will reject you, others will test you. That's why you see a lot of AAA artists on Artstation, some of them lost their jobs on one studio, and got hired by another through that site. So, wouldn't worry too much. Once you're in one studio and got a fuck ton of talent and skill, then things will get easier.
That’s what I was most excited for. Seeing more Cyberpunk genre games, films, comics. This may have stifled that. There’s no doubt in my mind CDPR will eventually get this game running smoothly, but it may be a day late and a dollar short, and some of the damage done is simply irreversible.
@@ToxicTeraaa it'll depend on how the final product ends up and what you actually worked on. Even then, the only people who I personally think would take a real hit are the people leading the project and release.
They'll have no problem getting a job, this is clearly a management issue. Releasing a game to early isn't on individual developers so it shouldn't effect them getting a new job. Also the fact they went through so much crunch also probably helps them as it shows they are willing to put in extra hours when necessary
I will never blame the devs for the state of this game. There is so much love and attention in the world, but God as an owner of the base Xbox i am beyond frusturated with the ad campaign/initial reviews and coverups. I'll stick it out in hopes the game truly does become better (or till i can afford a better PC/Console.)
The city is bland. Witcher 3’s world felt more alive. They got too ambitious for their own good. Not to mention loads of missing features in which they promised. You done goofed, CDPR. You done goofed.
I don't disagree but we as gamers also need to accept a larger price tag on AAA titles & a slower release schedule - collective bargaining the right thing to do but it usually goes hand-in-hand w/ increased labor costs.
@@schmucksizzup3139 Yea its pretty bad, cant wrap my head around it. to see a game of this scale shipping with an AI this basic makes u rlly question things.
Enemy AI isn't bad, until it is. It's like the game as a whole. They take cover, but it takes them 10 seconds to realize I'm shooting them. They blind fire, until I flank them, then they just stay there looking confused. They switch from cover to cover, till I throw a grenade at their feet, then they just look at it confused again. There's so much potential with this game, but the half measured steps and early release screwed it up.
Facts. Bugs and glitches are the BEGINNING of what sucks about CP2077. AI is absolute trash across the board. Dark dystopian future? Compared to what? Blues Clues?
As you said previously Young, I'm more pissed I can't customise my character as much as some npc's are, or simply the haircut, guns and vehicles... Such basic features...
Why worry about the hairstyle? Whenever my character looked in a mirror (usually by accident, trying to grab loot placed by a mirror, triggering an UNSKIPPABLE look in mirror action, he was always, always, always bald in the reflection (not that I remember Be Kojak as one of the mirror options), and the painfully, unusably slowwwwwwwwww camera mode was always trying to force the camera to look away from the character anyway. As such, hairstyles weren’t really a priority to gripe about, in the bigger picture of things.
@@Livestick42 Working more than 35 - 40 hours in a week is crunch and is considered overworking your employees. As a person who worked in warehouses, trust me, I very much know what crunch and overworking is. When a person works 50 to 60 hours in a week (which is what CDPR has been doing since October) bad things begin to happen to their physical and mental health. Please don't try and defend these corporations for their shit practices. They care about money, not you or their employees.
Stop defending a company that clearly doesn't give a shit about you or their employees. If they can lie about the state of a game they plan on selling to people they can lie about how it was made too.
@@JeffreyThrash I NEVER pre order. I was going to buy it a few days after release once I had a chance to actually play it. Then I saw shit hit the fan and I kept my money in my wallet...
Yong was playing the pc version. The pc version runs much better than the console editions and thanks to the fact that he wasn't allowed access to the console versions he had no way of knowing that they would be in such as mess. He did also talk about the bugs in the pc version and how irritating it was he wasn't allowed to show his own gameplay.
@@ultgamercw6759 the point I think OP is making is that he played a copy, said it was good and then his opinion changed to suit the masses, its not a healthy look for a reviewer, but most people wont pick up on it
@@ultgamercw6759 Dude, he described the game as "taking his breath away" and said it was everything he dreamed of. Why isn't he saying now that the PC version is still does that? BTW, I own it on GOG and Steam. Runs fine, but it's not this amazing GOTY contender.
What the hell gave they been doing for 8 years? Like there's tuns of stuff in the game but why do police just show up out of no where? What's up with the NPCs? Like weren't they playing the game at all?
@@mikerosoft1009 the development has been reset at least once (that we know of for sure and 2nd time was rumored but never confirmed afaik) so it is unlikely that anything that is in the game today is older than 4 years. As for ridiculous things like the police system, all things point to a stop-gap solution since they had to put it out the door. The game when it works is really fucking good, proper next gen even. It is clear that theyve ran out of time and perhaps even couldnt develop certain features without risking old gen consoles catching on fire.
tbh the only thing that fell is the delusion built up by years of baseless hype. CDP has made a grand total of 3 full games before CP, they got Witcher to being very good on their 3rd attempt, and yet still it was buggy on release, missed some expected features that were even present in previous parts and had meh combat. Like literally, if the braindead hype bandwagon never happened, no one would be surprised.
Same Smfh this has been a disaster weather people disagree with the last generation thing or not, the launch as a whole has been disastrous. Rockstar please-take notes.
@@Mrgomodefr rockstar doesn’t need to take notes. They always take their time with the games they make and they usually come out relatively bug free and well polished.
@@camfarenheit71 huh? What you’re saying doesn’t make sense. Cyberpunk was literally a GTA situation. They were supposed to take thier time and do it right and look how it turned out. I’m just saying rockstar better be prepared cyberpunk was supposed to be bigger than anything and look🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️ I’m saying this Bc GTA is on a dangerous hype train rn.
I can't trust any gaming company anymore. It's just so depressing to witness the fallout. However I do side with the pissed of devs, despite the fuck ups.
There's now a polish class action lawsuit being levied against CDPR from Polish investors 🤣🤣🤣 I swear the Fall of Cyberpunk 2077 video for internet historian writes itself
One cdpr manager ( idk which team) take a shot at sony by liking a tweet saying " why Sony didn't pull out marvel's avengers "🤦🏼♂️ like son..how can you be that dumb. Yes the game has bugs and glitch but it doesn't crash the system 40 times in 3 hours and also the game only lack with updates/dlcs that come as slow as fuck
@@luxeternity You know it's bad when people are less mad about The Avengers. Plus, at least that game is clearly a finished product. And no one really had much hope for it.
@@rosesweetcharlotte and Avengers have 2 beta test for PlayStation and 1 for other console/pc ..the players know what they getting beforehand. Meanwhile cdpr purposefully hid the console review
I've worked in customer service for both Sony and Xbox so I can tell you Sony didn't pull the game from the marketplace from the good of their hearts. Sony's support systems require manual work for each refund request, whereas Xbox is much more automated. This, coupled with the more restrictive policy means many more hours from support that Sony would have to pay for with overtime (doesn't make sense to hire just for this spike), especially in this season where support is typically overwhelmed due to the holidays and new hardware release. Xbox on the other hand has their support more automated and refund requests can be processed automatically so they can afford to continue handling the potential increase of this request from their customers without increased costs with support.
-Rushed game even though "Coming when it's ready" and after 3 delays -Missing features -Downgrades from 2018 Demo -Useless details (aka genitals customisation is so useless) Yeah.. Even if the story is great, it can't make the game 10/10
Agree with all of this, apart from the downgrades from the 2018 demo, I personally think it looks better. But yeah, the missing or pointless features is inexcusable.
You can customize your pubic hair but can't get a haircut or alter your appearance during a playthrough. Genius. Especially considering you can change your hair whenever you want in the Witcher 3.
Thats what happens when u overhype game and then expect perfect release :D Ppl thought they could have mountain of expectations but now they can drown in their own shit.
2020 didn't even do any of this, it was our species longed chained reactions that caused of all this, like how naughty dog and cd projekt red ruined themselves with poor decisions, ooh humans.
"We plan to get better at running this company, planning our projects, and treating our emplyees" Where did I hear that before? Oh right after Witcher 3's development lead to mass exodus of their talent due to exploitation.
Nah, the higher ups gonna come out with a bullshit narrative where the devs were slacking off, they'll get a bonus for finding the ''problem'' within the company and the devs are gonna get replaced. We saw that cdpr is not better than scummy company with this game, so don't expect too much about it.
@Jack Stucki i want to believe that we will go back into some degree of "Normalcy" ..but again, the universe keeps proving me that its fueled by Cracked Fuel Nightmares and too much Alex Jones.
@@jazzycat8917 And the worst part is that you believe it. Spreading misinformation and fake news should be punishable with a 3 months ban (1st strike), 12 months ban (2nd strike) and permanban (3rd strike) from the online platform.
@@nt.hunter It's not about the money, or even how hard they're working. They've shown that they don't do well under crunch and end up making so many mistakes that it's like even though they're putting in twice the time, the final product functions like they only put half the work in. I've tried "crunching" myself to get my own project done, and the result is a half-assed version of the thing I was working on, I had to learn to pace myself - something I STILL struggle with. It's clear they need more speed and WAY less haste. Even if they're all completely fine with crunch, they don't appear very good with it.
I want to know when they're going to add the features they marketed! I'm sure the bugs will be fixed eventually, but how uninspired the game is besides the aesthetics is such a shame. 98% of dialogues don't matter, city is beautiful, but as deep as a puddle, no interactivity outside of quests... I really hope CDPR can overcome all the difficulties, but TBH they did it to themselves. They deserve some backlash after lying and betraying the trust they built over the years.
Oh god is it that bad? How is it possible that some people think it's such a dense and beautiful open world whereas others call it completely bland? Legit wondering
Every time there's an open world game someone will nah that it's not deep. What did you expect? Unique dialogue interaction for every npc? Let's be real, open world is fun but in the end it'll always feel empty
@@jakefoley9539 Girls appreciate statues & action figures too, you know. I'm a figure collector and my female friends/relatives always enjoy my collection of cute & cool-looking female figures every time they visit my figurine shrine. Of course I certainly "display" the lewd ones somewhere else lol.
the game has an amazing story, i love this game. but the open world is shallow. once completing main story and side quests there literally is nothing to do. there are games like red dead and gta which has a lot to do aside from missions. what we were promised by the devs was a borderline life simulator. But the open world turned out to be watchdogs basicslly.
@@eleanorgreywolfe5142 i said borderline.. the amount of detail they clearly over exaggerated, they made it sound like this game would be the most detailed game ever.
I feel this is akin to a musician writing a track - sending it to the label and the label going “this is great! We released it and told your fans that’s the new album is complete and will be out in a week!” - the musician cannot be to blame. Yong put it best - it’s a shitstorm of a mess
Considering that we have genital physics and not water physics, splash effect and other physics tells all. I love the game story wise but holy shit was this game over hyped as hell and buggy galore.
@@S1D3W1ND3R015 I think everyone expected the game to be competent to the level that Witcher was, but CDPR's management have been seeing huge bonuses and they wanted the money to keep coming so they just did the same thing all greedy high level leaders do. It feels like at this point this should be part of the hiring process for game studios.... "If you have a game that will sell really well, but it's not finished will you A). Release it anyway for short term gains or B). Release it when it's good enough" If they pick the first one just tell them "We'll call you".
Everyone: WE WANT CYBERPUNK NOW !!1!!!1! CDPR: It's not finished yet we still need to polish- Everyone: WE WAITED 8 YEARS!!!! CDPR: Alright... Everyone: IT'S TRASH IT'S NOT EVEN FINISHED >:(
It's not a terrible game even with bugs and I'm playing on base ps4 (call of duty bundle old as feck) but it could definitely have used some extra dev time.
I didn’t buy into the hype and never heard of the game until a week or so before. I thought what they were saying was pretty standard and I was expecting a next gen GTA with RPG aspects which is t too much to ask
@@20ZZ20 that's the biggest bullshit I've ever heard, this fucking game was promoted even under the rocks, if you had any type of social media you heard about this game.
@@brianjensen5661 "Games eligible for The Game Awards this year must be available for public consumption on or before November 20, 2020. Titles that are released after this date will be eligible for The Game Awards ceremony in 2021."
It's clear to me at least someone toward/at the top, made these decisions, repeatedly and needs to be gone. CDPR as a whole admits they care more about their public reputation, and this has caused it to be scarred for the years to come. Only way you change that, is by sorting out the leadership who made these horrendous decisions.
Oh without a doubt. CDPR has had management issues waaaaaay back in 2015, Yong yea made a video discussing this very issue as it was in relation towrds the crunch development and release for Witcher 3
@@KARS215 well, when a game is designed for PC, it's to be expected. They scrapped most of the old gen and console stabilisation, tried to make it work for NEW gen which only a small number of people have. So they thought, let's not optimise old gen, who majorty of the people still own.
@@KARS215 yea it is, tho Cdpr still got mass preorder profits from console players and left out that it was basically unplayable on those systems till after release. Even admitted that they largely neglected those versions at the investor meeting
I mean, they'll fix the bugs for sure, but them adding all the falsely advertised features seems unlikely at this point. The damage this has done to their image is irreparable.
I recall I was in a comment chain here talking about how cdpr was managing their company before the game came out, and everyone told me I was either wrong or a liar when I pointed out cdpr's management was shit. Funny how now the general consensus agrees with what I was saying before now.
Okay, anyone sending death threats to the devs over this : Stop. It's just a video game that was rushed out buggy and poorly optimized. If you feel the need to threaten someone's life over this YOU are the problem.
If the people doing that are reading this, then you should know that if you still feel the need to send death threats for some reason, the devs are the last people you should send them to. They've been working themselves to the bone almost non-stop for almost the entirety of Cyberpunk's development, with constant crunch-time hours thanks to the executives decisions. It's the executives who made all the false advertising, it's the executives who delayed the game every single time, and it's the executives who forced it to release unfinished so they could make that holiday money. If you really need to send death threats to someone, and I do mean *need*, because I absolutely don't condone this, then send them to the executives. I'll even go a step further and say this is true of every other Triple A game out there, as it's pretty much universally the executives making all the decisions that ruin the games, with the devs just trying their hardest to make a game that actually works. This is also why day one patches have become so common, as executives want to get the game launched pretty much exactly on the day it's finished, but because of how little time devs are given and how mentally and physically exhausted they are from working in constant crunch conditions the game is almost never actually finished by the time physical copies start getting made.
Governments should take action against those kind of threats, this is not the first time, because death threats are not games, and can cause real panic for the concerned person, maybe those kids have nothing to do in their life except gaming, but they need to grow up.
This is why I watch you. Integrity. Even though you praised CDPR for awhile now, you still report the facts. Keep acting like this, and I'll keep watching. Thank you for being real with people.
His review was a complete shill. Then when he found out the rest of the internet hated the game, he changed his tune real quick. I like Yong, but this is not a good example of his integrity.
@@kay_keik7842 Yea, he's clearly still fawning over the CDPR dev team.... Saying management set "unrealistic deadlines".. And yet, they gave the dev team a whopping 8 years to develop a single game. Then they delayed an equally whopping 3 times to give them even more time.. Unrealistic deadlines? Almost as if Yong does not understand that we need deadlines, otherwise nothing ever gets done.
@@SeriousDragonify That was pre orders noob. I talking about actually steamspy stats. 11 milions users have the game just on steam now so yes, game was a massive success. I woder how much they sold on consoles and gog/epic/stadia
@@walky9037 Give me citation instead of telling your bs. 8M is real citation. Stop spreading misinformations. 8M sold all across all platforms in 1. That is a fact, NOOB.
Even if CyberPunk weren't buggy its still an incredibly dull, uninspiring game with possibly one of the most boring open worlds Ive played. What a Mess.
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There is one way that CDPR execs can redeem themselves from this PR nightmare; they all need to T-Pose naked on motorbikes with a sign that says, "We're sorry, Choombas"
I- I might forgive them if they really do that...
"Dont worry guys, all people who want refunds can get some porn of Johnny Silverhand, free!!"
“wake up Samurai, we need to apologize to the Choombas” 😹😹
Hilarious
CDPR is gonna have a mass exodus of developers from the studio. I bet some will start new companies and CDPR will forever be a shell of its self prob off to make live service games while milking the witcher 3 forever
The most ironic part of this video is that I actually got an ad for Cyberpunk 2077
I keep seeing your comments in other people’s videos not realizing your a big history channel. The name should’ve gave me a hint. Lol
Huh, weird seeing you here.
you're a history channel damn.
Hello There 🤫
That's AstroTurf for ya
"The refunds run surprisingly well on current-gen consoles"
fuckin LOL made me cough wheeze laugh goddammit 😂
Lol
Lmaooooo
Lol
Hahaha I luv this man
"It's ready when it's ready"
Christmas: * exists *
"It's ready now"
Turns out, someone was talking about a cake being ready, but someone mistaken it for the game.
@@2ndsnake899 The cake is a lie, and so was this game.
@@dc1939 Respect for the Portal reference. Fitting since there's one in the game.
@Howdy Yeah I thought that was strange as well, first they act like creating a good product is the most important factor for them and next thing you know they pull this kinda shit. Things like this happens everywhere in every industry, I'm really starting to have a hard time trusting another human being...
It's getting serious: Polish investors are preparing a class-action lawsuit against CDPR. The polish edition of Business Insider wrote yesterday that individual investors of CD Projekt Red are preparing a class-action lawsuit against the board members for deliberately lying about the state of the game and putting the investors at risk. In Polish law it's "misrepresentation to obtain financial benefits" and it's a crime.
It's reminding me of that scene from Frankenstein with all the torch-bearing villagers.
American lawyers are on it too, for American investors.
this is the most insane i've read, 2020 keeps on giving.
insane thing*
This is good, wish it happened to every other shitshow, but we all gotta start somewhere.
Easy to see where CDPR writers got their inspiration from.
This is a whole new level of immersion!
Role playing
a table top game yes
Yeah Corporate pressure xD
@@nihonheadmgmgthant7239, this is not a pressure game - this is a war of annihilation.
The moral of the story once more is, no matter what, _DO NOT PRE-ORDER_ It gives them comfort in half-assing the final product.
Yea. I fell for it again.
Last time before I preordered a game was destiny.
If anything it's more that developers shouldn't half ass the game because of pre-orders because this can happen. Everyone who bought the game can get a refund no problem. The one suffering is the company.
Yeah. Those eight million preorders kept getting waved around and now look.
I dont think preorders caused this mess tbh.
To this day I have not pre-ordered a game and I never will.
Man, I can’t even feel BAD for CD Projekt at this point. The higher ups deserve everything they’re getting.
Not only did you spell that right but you correctly distinguished between the studio and the publisher!
Why do you think you should feel bad?
The game has been delayed 3 times and they still released a buggy mess. What state was it in before the first delay when they were happily taking peoples pre-order money.
Game devs are scum who charge far to much for hot garbage and deny refunds for their misleading products which outside the US is actually illegal.
*Publishers, not game devs. Game devs don’t make executive marketing decisions, they just make the models and code and levels and what have you. Blaming game developers who have no say other than what a specific character model looks like is like a customer blaming a lowly clerk like me for something the CEO of the company did-which is exactly what the customers at my store do, unfortunately.
I did entertain the idea that I might get 2077 a year or two from now because there might, at the very least, be a passable $20 game under all the glitches, but CD Projekt’s decisions as the week wore on left an increasingly bad taste in my mouth. I have better things to do with my time and money than support a broken game from a scummy charity like they were some poor, poor orphan child.
Unfortunately the programmers and artists will be the ones feeling most of the fallout from lay-offs and pay cuts. The leadership are already multimillionaires...
Now I understand why its 77. It’s a sequel of Fallout 76.
You know it!
Good catch.
"The Electric Boogaloo Clause rears its ugly head." - Zapp Brannigan
Lol they were like hold my beer
Har har
Underrated comment
Tomorrow's title will be: "Cyberpunk 2077 is now back in development after the release disaster"
Probably a good idea
With the way it released, it's undoubtedly still in development
They need this. They have nothing else. Disappointed asf. This game is a joke they might as well still said we are playing an alpha or something.
i’d actually be happy if they did that if it meant later in the future they would release an amazing game that ran well and with the features that they advertised
@@derfalke9178 the thing is CDPR announced they would wait until after the holidays to give their devs a chance to rest.
Which ended up being a lie I guess since they are working again and just released 1.05 according to IGN
Never thought this game would get delayed after release.
🤣🤣🤣
The joke's on you then because I've seen it coming a mile away, in fact I called it after the initial delay (the very first one). Man I'm good at these things.
@@Heroinedown Anyone who wasn't a blind fanboy saw this coming a mile away bro
@@Shadow4192008 true. their vision and goals for CP77 is so high and their marketing keeps delivering promises when still in middle of development. any neutral person would be wary by that
@@Shadow4192008 nah that's bullshit nobody really saw this coming or expected to be bad.
"the irony of Cyberpunk's themes revolving largely around corporate exploitation and CD Projekt acting like a typical corpo"
Well, duh. Corporations ALWAYS hijack rebelliousness. True rebellion has no power anymore. The big "rebels" are swindlers further perpetuating the norm.
Maybe because they are a typical coorp? People seem surprised smh
Yeah, it's the freaking stock market again. Why do people keep listing their companies in the stock market? You lose almost all control of the company and become beholden to shareholders.
@@immanuelaj So they can have a scapegoat and then walk away with the big bucks and screw over even MORE people in the process.
@@elxero2189 Can you really blame people for wanting and believing in something good, though? Which, of course, is exactly why it works. Honesty may have been viable in the old days, but organized crime and global technology changed the game.
Do what Rockstar does
Wait until the game is finished, then show the trailer
Wait. That makes too much sense!
Not with those CDPR executives, too greedy for that
dude RDR 2 on pc was a nightmare when it launched and its online is still bad,
Stupid Idea. They would not have such insane sales then.
@@dariyanvalentine3564 no one plays rdr2 for the online
As software developer I can just say, that giving unrealistic project finish date by supervisors who know shit about project is as common as their greed for milking customers money.
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz I would assume those actually developing the game would be able to give more realistic deadlines. Often it’s the higher ups without any proper knowledge of the state of the game, set deadlines. Why there ends up being ‘crunch time’ and lots of overtime.
I believed the delays to be a good sign, recognizing the current release date was unrealistic, delaying the game. The fact they delayed the game this much and it was still released in this state is unacceptable. Developers knew the state, have to assume they informed leadership but were ignored. Reviews for previous gens before release date not being allowed says enough that this is on leadership, not those on the ground.
I can’t say for andromeda, but I know for anthem it was a lot of ‘what do you think of this idea?’ ‘Hmm, not sure, let’s mull it over for a while’ later...’yeah, I guess we can include it.’ Later again...’actually, we’d prefer to do something else’ and repeat. This is very much among higher ups, not the actual developers bringing the ideas to life. Like you said, spent years deciding on the game, then expecting the game to produced in no time at all. They actually believed that the developers could produce as a game, the movie they’d produced for E3 in the time frame they gave.
I will say for anthem, there was a funny bug, that was how the beginner gun was stronger than end game guns, because of how the scaling worked. Idk how that doesn’t fall on the developers at fault and being blamed on the crunch instead. Crunch must’ve not helped, but that’s a huge game breaking bug to be missed.
I do think, majority of the time, the fault does fall with the higher ups, having unrealistic time frame expectations.
Unfortunately the ‘overtime’ often isn’t compensated.
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz Workplace Democracy sounds like a good idea, then the decision would be made by the people actually involved with production who know what they fuck they're talking about and what they're doing.
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz I find that strict hierarchy is not as vital and effective as modern society (which is founded on strict hierarchy and thus has a vested interest in perpetuating the idea that said hierarchy is extremely necessary) makes it out to be.
Decentralization of authority and equal investment of associated parties is quite effective at curtailing the ills of managerial incompetence and corruption.
Make every employee a member of the Board, with equal shares of the company and thusly equal investment and say. It's not a pipe dream, there are plenty of successful co-ops that confirm it's not just possible, but effective.
@@MohitKumar-jf8lz they need to give reasonable deadlines. This isn't the first game ever made. The data exist, they know what a reasonable deadline is. I believe the execs are responsible for setting deadlines and they should have had the progress/project audited to decide how much more time is needed.
Cyberpunk 2077 was only released because of Christmas.
Edit: in a huge company like CDPR, the A top-down approach is the best way to go. The execs just failed at it.
2020 really said “Fuck everything you might have been excited about this year”
I mean there was Doom Eternal and GoT. They're the only ones that made this year bearable.
Not if you have a decent PC, I'm about 50 hours in and have been having a blast with almost no bugs. (At least no more than you would expect from any good open world game)
Eminem dropped a new album 😊
@@bozzwick You my friend just disturbed my neighbors.... that had me laughing me so good
@@gregmartin2225 oooof more bad news!!
“Intentionally hiding any revealing footage on base console and unprecedentedly force reviewers to choose between pc review code only or no review codes at all. That’s the scummed think you could, Bethesda would would be proud of you
cdproject red is jsut doing what bethesda did, cashing in loyalty for cash
" -Marwan Chergou
Actually, this is the one area where they were worse than Bethesda. Bethesda, at the very least, sent out actual review copies of Fallout 76 for all consoles.
Nah, Bethesda doesn't hide stuff. They display the bugs for all to see
Well stop being a child and get pc. Consoles are weak anyway
"We are offering refunds for all those who got cyperpunked"
Cyberpranked
They couldn’t handle the Neutron style
Someone literally has a seizure playing this*
CDPR: Haha get cyberpranked.
I hope Ashton Kutcher pre ordered this game. Prick deserves it.
Internet Historian must be taking notes furiously right now. This is going to be a similar situation to No Man's Sky gem of a video.
Or a crowbcat vid too
I also feel a bit reminded to No Man's Sky. The game is out for years, and the developer is still updating it. Its probably a pretty nice game now, which comes much closer to what everybody expected it to be, but who gives a damn now??
@@asnierkishcowboy To be fair No Man's Sky is amazing right now. I bought it a few months ago and I love it. But I fully agree with you.
If No Man's Sky released as it is now then it would've been a massive success and an absolute monster in terms of moneymaking.
But as we all know, it didn't release in it's current state.
God I hope so
@@asnierkishcowboy I mean it’s not nearly as big as it could’ve been but plenty of people are still playing or have started playing for the first time since it’s so much better now.
Man this Corpo lifepath feels so realistic!
Ayyyy. Remember, all execs are Corpo by default. What did you expect?
Do lifepaths in the game matter ? I tried a short playthrough of corpo and nomad and it resulted in a same main story.
@@panpan9140 There is a small sidequest for each but otherwise no, just a few orifin specific dialog lines here and there. I think the origin story is mostly there to influence you how you want to roleplay your character and what decisions you want to make during the game and especially at the end. Like my Corpo character who ended up becoming a Nomad in the end because in my headcanon he grew a distaste for corpo and city-life crap.
@@panpan9140 From what I can tell, lifepaths have basically no effect on the rest of the game
When the Cyberpunk 2020 campaign goes a little too far.
“In 2077, what makes someone a criminal?”
“Getting caught releasing when not ready.”
To quote Keanu Reeves:
"woah"
CDPR, how about I give you the finger....and you give me my refund.
Watched the Matrix last night and giggled when Keanu said that. 🤣
@@EdwardGutierrez90 i mean yeah they are very willing to give refunds
@@Artemi22 lol you didnt get the matrix reference that I made
A wise man indeed
" We Won't Ship Something That Wasn't Ready"
- CD Projekt Red
Except we would and it will be a bastard move just like ea, activision and bethesda.
The witcher 3 was a fluke - cdpr (the witcher 3 is goat for me but after playing cyberpunk 2077 i cn say that cp2077 has no ai, its just artificial with no intelligence)
Famous last words
@@amanferrari7866 straight up I just walk around with a bat and it works🤷♂️
Really? 😂
It is pretty ready on other consoles, just not on base PS4 and Xbox one
When that line "it runs surprisingly well on current gen consoles" was first floated around I started suspecting. Why was that a surprise? Wasn't it supposed to run well on current gen, given its development time.
The line was actually "runs surprisingly well on ps5 and xbox2" but I agree, was always sketched out by that nonetheless
@@jackboneart nah mate that line was regarding the last gen console
@@jackboneart Xbox 2?
@@brandon_nope i guess that's better than series x xD less confusing aswell
@@brandon_nope Xbox 4 (Series X)
I'm just sick and tired of getting hyped up, only for a game to be released with a "ship now, fix later" mentality from the companies selling this shit.
Thats why I miss older consoles and their physical medias... that forced companies to make sure the game was ready and polished on release
Just stop getting hyped for games you don't know anything about.
@@mohammadsaleem5990 can be hard, even I had trouble not getting hyped for cyberpunk, despite trying not to see yt videos about it. I never get caught in hype.
Well you should of realized before this that cd project was a crap company. Witcher didn’t release well either. What the hell made you think this would of been? Since destiny I’ve learned to watch and read what I see carefully and I’ve been 90 percent right on every game released “being good or bad”. I was actually wrong on squadrons. I thought that would of blown but man 10/10 by angry joe... really off lol
@@zacharynyberg7007 To be clear, I was skeptical of it, but good games are so few and far between. I was honestly just trying to be hopeful more than anything. I remember the Witcher 3 launch just as good as anyone else :D
The devs totally have a right to be upset.
He’s upset! You’re upset! I’m upset! She’s upset! They’re upset! We’re upset they’re upset!
Totally agree
The blame is on both sides.
@Cryer24597 broken sure but shallow? How
@Cryer24597 tbf the devs are at fault too, they took 7 years for this shit? I know they pushed them but what the fuck were they doing the last 4 yeard
It’s interesting how this company had been rated as the most valuable development studio before the launch and now all of this. The executives who made the decision to lie to everyone should be fired without bonuses or compensation payouts.
That'd be what's right, but what will happen is, they get a big goodbye party, a fat paycheck bonus on top and recommendations for EA.
@@aaronruf8421 I’d give them recommendations to EA as well
Extreme imo. they messed up that's it they shouldn't be executed bro lol
Never counts the eggs before they are hatched..
If this was not during work from home, I would have them meet in before all the developers, then have them each bring coffee and whatever the developers need, all day until the last developer leaves for the day. And have them work in the canteen staff. At no place can they speak to the developers, only take request. Then in 6 months I would let them go without severance pay. They have to FEEL the anger in their employees.
Yeah, and that's the big thing here: Don't put this on the developers, this was a failure in project management and the project leaders are who should be facing this harsh criticism. They were the ones spearheading the game's development and most likely were the ones propagating all the lies and deception in the marketing and what have you.
Noone blames the devs... we blame CDPR for this disaster. Same when we blame EA for their bullshit and not its devs.
Its all money, money, money.
Remember the times when corporate greed hadn't touched the video game industry? I can't even remember those times anymore
@@BlazingBunny You would be surprised at the amount of people I've seen blaming the devs on the internet, unfortunately.
@@imjustsomeguy5048 True and it is a shame
@@imjustsomeguy5048 It's only natural that the devs are going to be blamed. People are out for blood here, they want CDPR to go under and the people to suffer. That means every single person within the organization needs to suffer, devs included. People can argue "not everyone wants CDPR to go bankrupt", but realistically when it comes to the internet, all it takes are a few people loud enough for the sentiment to snowball. The devs must suffer to appease these people, but even if they do suffer, the people won't forgive them - there is no such thing as getting good will back with many people, once it's gone, people will move on. It's like No Man's Sky - sure the game might be in an alright state now, but what most people will remember is that the entire team behind No Man's Sky are scam artists.
People are quick to unleash hate, but forgiveness is often the last thing on their minds. Every employee in CDPR will be punished for this whether it's right or wrong, it's just how mob justice works.
And yet "Life of black tiger" is alive and well on the psn store.
Absolutely baffling to me.
Because no one denies Fred Fucks his "hard earned" money.
Maximum Football 17: no Life of black tiger: the game stays
To be honest, nothing really is misleading about life of black tiger. Game just sucks, and nobody was hyped for it
That "whole game is going to be a meme" tweet hits different now.
Mem "no NPC for dump gamers" or maybe "60 $ for weapon skin" mem? Oh, thats games is not the mem today - its cool bug-free games...
Appropriate profile picture.
Gives a similar "Anthem will be the Bob Dylan of videogames" vibe
The name is the meme. You got cyber punked. They just had the date wrong
@IQ_The_Prophet They won’t add loot boxes. They re are different kinds of wrong doings. They lied to make more profit, but would not make children/gamers gambling addicted for the money. The world is not black and white. There are different shades
You know it’s bad when Sony didn’t do that to fallout 76
Except they should have lol
Bethesda didnt basically recall the product lol
because fallout 76 required online and had Microtransactions...
Fucking Pieces of shit.
It's only different because there was far more people buying CP2077 on launch, leading to WAY more demand for refunds.
That's cuz 2 people bought the game. Everyone and their family tree history be buying cyberpunk.
Unfortunately I have the feeling that in the coming weeks we'll see another Schreier investigation of shit that happened behind the scenes of the company revealing the game was in preproduction for 6 years and only 2 in production, features were cut and changed numerous times etc etc. It's so obvious that they rushed this thing out of the door just to throw it into the christmas market. Some of the most obvious signs for me is the weapon room in V's apartment that looks like it was meant to showcase your weapons but you can't do nothing with it
Yeah, I'm beginning to worry that it will be revealed that this game had a massive Destiny of Halo 5 style rewrite/rework.
I was honestly thinking that too. I mean, Anthem had 7 years. Cyberpunk had 8. It seems highly likely that some sort of shenanigans happened behind the scenes.
Fact: they did not spend 8 years developing, yes it was their intention originally but found out they couldn't do it with Witcher 3 development at same time. So they only really started _after_ witcher 3. So 5 years, not 8!
This is the difference between Sony and the rest of the developers. Insomniac can work on Spiderman, Spiderman: Miles Morales, Spiderman 2, and Ratchet and Clank Drift Apart simultaneously.
NegativeZero 5 years crunching is still a lot...
Fanboys goes "take my money"
Casual gamer "I believe the hype"
Smart gamers "never ever pre-order"
This guy gets it :)
I am a casual gamer, I don't believe any hype. Not over movies, not over books, not over games. Always make your own impression of the actual thing, before consuming something.
I have yet to experience regret from not preordering a game. Crazy, I know.
Last time I was this early cyberpunk was supposed to be the game of the decade.
And supposed to run well 🤣🤣🤣 Rockstar better take notes. Agreed. Which is why I FEAR for GTA 6. The hype is unbelievable right now and fans are waiting to pop for any hints towards GTA. Rockstar better take notes. Same thing with Cyberpunk, GTA 6 was made for LAST GEN and developed on last consoles. Once it launches, it should run smooth asf on last gen and be UPGRADED on next gen. Not like cyberpunk.
@@Mrgomodefr you making it sound like rockstar don't know what their doing
@@Mrgomodefr Rockstar are super money hungry but i think we can all agree, their games are of the upmost quality
It is......not our fault people wanna play on consoles
*Anthem, Destiny 10 year plan* whoops!
In only 10 days, cdpr has met the biggest scandal the company has ever seen.
What's more, this scandal would be enough to make even the most controversial companies, like Bethesda or EA, red faced.
Imagine how it must feel to a company that was once universally beloved like CDPR...
@@luckyducky7819 I feel bad for the devs.
I wrote an article about how CDPR is the developer to look at as the industry leader, when they announced free witcher 3 next gen updates 😅 now i feel stupid..
@@TheREALHugo4 feel bad for the devs not the top people who pushed it
@@SahilG23 Nobody, except a few people could've predicted this would happen. Don't beat yourself up haha. The devs and higher ups are to blame for this
RIP CD Projekt, time to move to DVD Projekt
Ooh, I like that.
Bruh we're on Blu-Ray Projekt now.
@@mun123keet That's when DVD Projekt plummet
4K project
Fuck that! I'm going back to the days of Laserdisc Projekt.
Damn, it’s so difficult to look forward to anything nowadays...
Damn 2020 really has been shit.
It's ok at least we got cyberpunk on the way...
at least it's a harvesting season
This is just icing on the cake for 2020
Yuuuuuup....
Got that right...thought December would be the respite from the shit storm.
But nah, Double sucker punch back to back
Pornhub gets deleted AND cyperpunk's a dumpster fire...
What's the point of continuing to live at this point?
If CDPR just said a year ago "Hey, this just became a next gen game and will release in 2021." Most people would just be happy...
Nah i dont think so
Nah man people would've whined. But who cares they should've done it.
They would’ve loss money, people forget ps4 and xbox1 combined is 160 million consoles sold. Way more than PC and next gen consoles so CDPR would’ve lost so much money regardless
Would they though? Everytime they said the game was going to be delayed people threw a fit about it.
They should have, it was fairly obviously not going to work well, if at all, work on base ps4 and xbox consoles.
Update 1.05 came yesterday, 17 gigabytes, and nothing feels different. Kinda tells ya how unfinished it was.
a 17 GB patch? wtf??? where half of the game assests missing or something?
It looks less blurry ( don't look at your reflection tho) but other than that its still buggy, the texture pop up is like a snail on a verge of xanax overdose, certain hud that should not be on the screen cannot be remove, its a struggle to switch camera while driving, The enemy AI is a f.... Joke just..... Sigh i cant even get a refund since in my country most of the retailers are independent so its already a struggle screw these people
Game still crashes constantly on PS4 and PS5... CDPR is a disaster
I noticed that vehicles now show damage too. I don't remember that being in game before 1.05.
BUT crashes are still abundant and as Yong's new vid points out, saves are being corrupted after save file reaches 8mb. A save file size not seen since the PS2
@@ThatOneGuyYMK Tekken 7 says hi
If this game was food, Gordon Ramsay would say *"IT'S STILL F-CKIN' RAW!"*
Nearly 9 years in the oven should have been enough.. But yeah, nah. clearly not for this dev team.
*WHERE'S THE LAMB SAUCE!*
I feel for the devs. I mean, can you imagine trying to get a new job after this? As soon as a company sees Cyberpunk 2077 on your resume they are going to have a lot of questions even if none of this was your fault.
And, as a very long time fan of cyberpunk the genre and Cyberpunk the IP, this just really makes me sad. It just really sucks to know that a genre and IP you love are being dragged through the mud because of this kind of bullshit. This could and should have been a resurgence and instead it may have killed large scale interest altogether. Cyberpunk is now going to be a laughing stock even if it has nothing to do with this CD Projekt Red failure.
A lot of hiring groups and agencies tend to look more at your portfolio, yes, failed games in your resume could take a damper, but they care more about the item you made and what the quality is. Some agencies will reject you, others will test you. That's why you see a lot of AAA artists on Artstation, some of them lost their jobs on one studio, and got hired by another through that site. So, wouldn't worry too much. Once you're in one studio and got a fuck ton of talent and skill, then things will get easier.
Calm down my man...I'm sure It will all come around sooner rather then later
That’s what I was most excited for. Seeing more Cyberpunk genre games, films, comics. This may have stifled that. There’s no doubt in my mind CDPR will eventually get this game running smoothly, but it may be a day late and a dollar short, and some of the damage done is simply irreversible.
@@ToxicTeraaa it'll depend on how the final product ends up and what you actually worked on. Even then, the only people who I personally think would take a real hit are the people leading the project and release.
They'll have no problem getting a job, this is clearly a management issue. Releasing a game to early isn't on individual developers so it shouldn't effect them getting a new job. Also the fact they went through so much crunch also probably helps them as it shows they are willing to put in extra hours when necessary
I will never blame the devs for the state of this game. There is so much love and attention in the world, but God as an owner of the base Xbox i am beyond frusturated with the ad campaign/initial reviews and coverups. I'll stick it out in hopes the game truly does become better (or till i can afford a better PC/Console.)
@Bob If that's a fixed, complete game, you have very low standards.
@Bob can you confirm it actually works?
The city is bland. Witcher 3’s world felt more alive. They got too ambitious for their own good. Not to mention loads of missing features in which they promised. You done goofed, CDPR. You done goofed.
You shouldn't have to buy a whole new console just to play a game that was advertised for old systems as well.
@@bussinboi23 Facts, its a beautiful city with bright lights and...that is all as of now.
The developers desperately need to unionize.
I don't disagree but we as gamers also need to accept a larger price tag on AAA titles & a slower release schedule - collective bargaining the right thing to do but it usually goes hand-in-hand w/ increased labor costs.
Someone should tell CDPR, they forgot to add AI to the game, maybe they can look into that real quick.
They didn’t even add animations for NPCs getting out of a car, so when you steal one and there is a passenger they just disappear, pretty hilarious.
@@schmucksizzup3139 Yea its pretty bad, cant wrap my head around it. to see a game of this scale shipping with an AI this basic makes u rlly question things.
Enemy AI isn't bad, until it is. It's like the game as a whole. They take cover, but it takes them 10 seconds to realize I'm shooting them. They blind fire, until I flank them, then they just stay there looking confused. They switch from cover to cover, till I throw a grenade at their feet, then they just look at it confused again. There's so much potential with this game, but the half measured steps and early release screwed it up.
Facts. Bugs and glitches are the BEGINNING of what sucks about CP2077. AI is absolute trash across the board. Dark dystopian future? Compared to what? Blues Clues?
What's really bad are all the videos comparing Cyberpunk to GTA5. The lack of AI in Cyberpunk is so painfully apparent.
As you said previously Young, I'm more pissed I can't customise my character as much as some npc's are, or simply the haircut, guns and vehicles... Such basic features...
Wait, the hairstyle is one of the first things you can customize though? That one confuses me.
@@AdamGlory You can't change it once ingame.
Yea I no a damn shame we cant do that also the police chases and train riding like wtf
Funny because the next Phantasy Star Online has the best character customization I have ever seen
Why worry about the hairstyle? Whenever my character looked in a mirror (usually by accident, trying to grab loot placed by a mirror, triggering an UNSKIPPABLE look in mirror action, he was always, always, always bald in the reflection (not that I remember Be Kojak as one of the mirror options), and the painfully, unusably slowwwwwwwwww camera mode was always trying to force the camera to look away from the character anyway. As such, hairstyles weren’t really a priority to gripe about, in the bigger picture of things.
"Crunch is not a triumph of the workforce, but a failure of the management.
" ~Jim Sterling
Crunch also didn't happen. They worked 4 extra days. That's not crunch. Anyone who thinks it is has obviously never had a real job before.
@@Livestick42 working 100 hour weeks is crunch mate.
@@AnymMusic Thats why they worked 48 not 100 stop watching ign
@@Livestick42 Working more than 35 - 40 hours in a week is crunch and is considered overworking your employees. As a person who worked in warehouses, trust me, I very much know what crunch and overworking is. When a person works 50 to 60 hours in a week (which is what CDPR has been doing since October) bad things begin to happen to their physical and mental health. Please don't try and defend these corporations for their shit practices. They care about money, not you or their employees.
Stop defending a company that clearly doesn't give a shit about you or their employees. If they can lie about the state of a game they plan on selling to people they can lie about how it was made too.
I really hate it when these games came out broken only to download around 100+ GB patches...
You'd think a Polish company would have much more polish in their game.
joke of the day
Badum tiss. Cringe at it's best right here.😆
Slow...... clap......
Excellent.
CD Crap Development
Never pre-order, even the greatest of studios is still subject to the whims of greedy people.
I learned my lesson. 😢
Agreed. There is no reason to pay for a product with the unknown quality.
I’m starting to think that even buying a game within the first year of release is a bad idea.
@@JeffreyThrash I NEVER pre order. I was going to buy it a few days after release once I had a chance to actually play it. Then I saw shit hit the fan and I kept my money in my wallet...
@@luhedi6303 Me too...
CDPR: Let's release it, I'm sure it gonna be okay.
...
CDPR : Oh no, we are f*cked
Meanwhile at a CDPR conference call
"FUC..."
CDPR: Lets make a cyberpunk game!
CDPR: Lets censor and appease communist dictators for corporate greed.
Yongyea with review copy: "This game was life changing."
Yongyea after release: "Uh... I meant it's bad."
Yong's opinions are adjusting to current flow. I don't buy it any more. It's all about likes and subs.
Yong was playing the pc version. The pc version runs much better than the console editions and thanks to the fact that he wasn't allowed access to the console versions he had no way of knowing that they would be in such as mess. He did also talk about the bugs in the pc version and how irritating it was he wasn't allowed to show his own gameplay.
@@maksiu11 ikr. i cant believe i am looking forward to his reviews
@@ultgamercw6759 the point I think OP is making is that he played a copy, said it was good and then his opinion changed to suit the masses, its not a healthy look for a reviewer, but most people wont pick up on it
@@ultgamercw6759 Dude, he described the game as "taking his breath away" and said it was everything he dreamed of. Why isn't he saying now that the PC version is still does that? BTW, I own it on GOG and Steam. Runs fine, but it's not this amazing GOTY contender.
This game honestly needed another 6 months of work or even more...
Years actually
What the hell gave they been doing for 8 years? Like there's tuns of stuff in the game but why do police just show up out of no where? What's up with the NPCs? Like weren't they playing the game at all?
@@mikerosoft1009 the development has been reset at least once (that we know of for sure and 2nd time was rumored but never confirmed afaik) so it is unlikely that anything that is in the game today is older than 4 years. As for ridiculous things like the police system, all things point to a stop-gap solution since they had to put it out the door. The game when it works is really fucking good, proper next gen even. It is clear that theyve ran out of time and perhaps even couldnt develop certain features without risking old gen consoles catching on fire.
@@Gapis321 more proof it should never have ever been for old gen consoles
@@mikerosoft1009 come on its a google search away. It was not 8 years. Why do people think this fuks sake
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
*Oh how hard they fell.*
Here lies a fallen God.
His fall was not a small one.
We did but build his pedastal,
A narrow and tall one.
tbh the only thing that fell is the delusion built up by years of baseless hype. CDP has made a grand total of 3 full games before CP, they got Witcher to being very good on their 3rd attempt, and yet still it was buggy on release, missed some expected features that were even present in previous parts and had meh combat. Like literally, if the braindead hype bandwagon never happened, no one would be surprised.
i don’t even know anymore man
Same Smfh this has been a disaster weather people disagree with the last generation thing or not, the launch as a whole has been disastrous. Rockstar please-take notes.
@@Mrgomodefr rockstar takes time with their stuff and don’t do a lot of PR until few months before the game is released; RDR2 is a good example
@@Mrgomodefr rockstar doesn’t need to take notes. They always take their time with the games they make and they usually come out relatively bug free and well polished.
@@camfarenheit71 It should be the norm. Sadly it’s not
@@camfarenheit71 huh? What you’re saying doesn’t make sense. Cyberpunk was literally a GTA situation. They were supposed to take thier time and do it right and look how it turned out. I’m just saying rockstar better be prepared cyberpunk was supposed to be bigger than anything and look🤷🏿♂️🤷🏿♂️ I’m saying this Bc GTA is on a dangerous hype train rn.
"Cyberpunk 2077: Coming when it's ready."
I can't trust any gaming company anymore. It's just so depressing to witness the fallout.
However I do side with the pissed of devs, despite the fuck ups.
Only now?
There's now a polish class action lawsuit being levied against CDPR from Polish investors 🤣🤣🤣
I swear the Fall of Cyberpunk 2077 video for internet historian writes itself
It's money bro, it brings corruption with it like a by product
@@Aerith-77x It's not just money. It's capitalism.
People will praise it for being an amazing and fair system, then shit like this happens.
Valve, Nintendo, Santa Monica etc. Just keep credible mate then you safe
Can't really imagine how much chaos in CD Projekt studio now
One cdpr manager ( idk which team) take a shot at sony by liking a tweet saying " why Sony didn't pull out marvel's avengers "🤦🏼♂️ like son..how can you be that dumb. Yes the game has bugs and glitch but it doesn't crash the system 40 times in 3 hours and also the game only lack with updates/dlcs that come as slow as fuck
@@luxeternity You know it's bad when people are less mad about The Avengers. Plus, at least that game is clearly a finished product. And no one really had much hope for it.
@@rosesweetcharlotte and Avengers have 2 beta test for PlayStation and 1 for other console/pc ..the players know what they getting beforehand. Meanwhile cdpr purposefully hid the console review
Merry Christmas
I love how they phrase it "don't want to wait". After this, there's no reason to trust them when they say they'll fix it.
They might really fix it like no man's sky but in 2 years
I've worked in customer service for both Sony and Xbox so I can tell you Sony didn't pull the game from the marketplace from the good of their hearts. Sony's support systems require manual work for each refund request, whereas Xbox is much more automated. This, coupled with the more restrictive policy means many more hours from support that Sony would have to pay for with overtime (doesn't make sense to hire just for this spike), especially in this season where support is typically overwhelmed due to the holidays and new hardware release. Xbox on the other hand has their support more automated and refund requests can be processed automatically so they can afford to continue handling the potential increase of this request from their customers without increased costs with support.
-Rushed game even though "Coming when it's ready" and after 3 delays
-Missing features
-Downgrades from 2018 Demo
-Useless details (aka genitals customisation is so useless)
Yeah.. Even if the story is great, it can't make the game 10/10
They spent time making sure you can customize your dick but didn't think to let players AT LEAST change hairstyles throughout the game lmao
Agree with all of this, apart from the downgrades from the 2018 demo, I personally think it looks better. But yeah, the missing or pointless features is inexcusable.
You can customize your pubic hair but can't get a haircut or alter your appearance during a playthrough. Genius. Especially considering you can change your hair whenever you want in the Witcher 3.
Thats what happens when u overhype game and then expect perfect release :D Ppl thought they could have mountain of expectations but now they can drown in their own shit.
@@Seoul_Soldier True. That is kinda wierd haha.
The Internet Historian video gets better every day.
Can’t wait for this one
Lmao 🤣
I would pay to watch it
Im anticpating the return of crobcat
Don’t forget crowbcat
I'm not surprised that this happened, its 2020 after all!
Remember back when everyone was like YAY CYBERPUNK! A light at the end of the 2020 tunnel.
@@christopherjohnston6343 Looks like the exit is caved in now
@@thefoolishgmodcube2644 cdpr had lined it with c4 just for the memes
2020 didn't even do any of this, it was our species longed chained reactions that caused of all this, like how naughty dog and cd projekt red ruined themselves with poor decisions, ooh humans.
@@santiagobrooks8571 So humans don't live in 2020 at the moment?! 😂
"We plan to get better at running this company, planning our projects, and treating our emplyees"
Where did I hear that before?
Oh right after Witcher 3's development lead to mass exodus of their talent due to exploitation.
"This deal's getting worse all the time!"
Here is a unicycle you will ride it wherever you go!
@@Pyxis10 This deal is....getting better and I'm happy to be a part of it.
Pray I don't alter it any further
I truly hope CDPR can bounce back from this. Hiring a new Executive Management team could be a good start.
oh they will
Nah, the higher ups gonna come out with a bullshit narrative where the devs were slacking off, they'll get a bonus for finding the ''problem'' within the company and the devs are gonna get replaced.
We saw that cdpr is not better than scummy company with this game, so don't expect too much about it.
@@Some2somewhere nah Adam Kiciński ,Piotr Nielubowicz and Marcin Iwiński all need to leave cdpr
@@MrRambo438 they own like 35% of the shares of the company
@@MrRambo438 they need to, but is never going to happen. Game devs are one of the most replaceable job in the world, while executives are not.
**Rushes game out to release to make holiday sales**
**Game gets removed from stores and refunded to negate holiday sales**
STONKS
*surprised pickachu face*
It was a 4-D power move.
*STINKS
" The decision was made "
Meaning we'll take your money even those our game isnt working right
2020 ended with a proper finale 😔👌
Still two weeks till the end..knock on wood
The proper finale will be the crypto boom, and then no one can buy pc's to play this disaster :))
2021: ima about to end this mans whole career
Until aliens attack right before the year is up
@Jack Stucki i want to believe that we will go back into some degree of "Normalcy" ..but again, the universe keeps proving me that its fueled by Cracked Fuel Nightmares and too much Alex Jones.
When a company does a lot of PR, it's compensating for something, so when you see a company doing a lot of it, beware
This is ignorant to the extreme.
Remember Daikatana? That was marketed nearly as heavily as CDPR and the CyberFLUNK
Dumb words.
Wouldn’t agree that this is always true. E.g. Breath of the Wild: lots of marketing AND great game! Witcher 3 same thing
@@eralec ooooh no I'd watch the video Yong yea made in 2015 airing CDPR's dirty laundry in regards towards Witcher 3 development and release
The head manager of CDPR got caught liking tweets of people trashing Avengers and defending Cyberpunk 😬
Lmaooooo
LMFAO, seriously?! Can you post a link? XD
I mean, Avengers WAS trash, but that's a shockingly childish move for a head exec.
@@jazzycat8917 And the worst part is that you believe it. Spreading misinformation and fake news should be punishable with a 3 months ban (1st strike), 12 months ban (2nd strike) and permanban (3rd strike) from the online platform.
... not sure why this would be a problem?
"Cyberpunk 2077 unreleases and will be 7 more years in development"
2077 was a code
it's the amount of bugs and also the actual release year
"Plans". Translation: "Even MORE crunch!"
@Demolition Daddy Hammurabi I would leave 2 years before the release.
@@SourceHades u cant have crunch in Poland or any EU country...educate urself before posting
Yeah, and? Not like they ain't getting paid an arm and leg for the cRuNcH.
@Demolition Daddy Hammurabi Polish job sites listed CDPR having good benefits... And extensive crunch periods...
@@nt.hunter It's not about the money, or even how hard they're working. They've shown that they don't do well under crunch and end up making so many mistakes that it's like even though they're putting in twice the time, the final product functions like they only put half the work in. I've tried "crunching" myself to get my own project done, and the result is a half-assed version of the thing I was working on, I had to learn to pace myself - something I STILL struggle with. It's clear they need more speed and WAY less haste. Even if they're all completely fine with crunch, they don't appear very good with it.
I want to know when they're going to add the features they marketed!
I'm sure the bugs will be fixed eventually, but how uninspired the game is besides the aesthetics is such a shame. 98% of dialogues don't matter, city is beautiful, but as deep as a puddle, no interactivity outside of quests...
I really hope CDPR can overcome all the difficulties, but TBH they did it to themselves. They deserve some backlash after lying and betraying the trust they built over the years.
Meh, same thing happened with no man's sky, CDPR will fix it, they'll do right by gamers,
Oh god is it that bad? How is it possible that some people think it's such a dense and beautiful open world whereas others call it completely bland? Legit wondering
The fanboys aren’t helpful either
It's what happens when fans pressure them to release an unfinished game
Every time there's an open world game someone will nah that it's not deep.
What did you expect? Unique dialogue interaction for every npc?
Let's be real, open world is fun but in the end it'll always feel empty
By seeing the refund situation of cyberpunk, Todd Howard is coughing on his coffee somewhere
Just realized Yong put the Cyberpunk Girl figure back in the box .
That’s how you know
That one must have hurt. She's such a pretty statue too.
Can you imagine him trying to bring a girl into that room?
@@jakefoley9539 Girls appreciate statues & action figures too, you know. I'm a figure collector and my female friends/relatives always enjoy my collection of cute & cool-looking female figures every time they visit my figurine shrine. Of course I certainly "display" the lewd ones somewhere else lol.
@@zb3397 that's right. It's a form of art after all, like painting. At least, IMO, they like figurines more than gunpla.
the game has an amazing story, i love this game. but the open world is shallow. once completing main story and side quests there literally is nothing to do. there are games like red dead and gta which has a lot to do aside from missions. what we were promised by the devs was a borderline life simulator. But the open world turned out to be watchdogs basicslly.
"Promised a borderline life simulator" wot.
This is so true. And it sucks, because coming straight from RDR2 to this feels like such a downgrade in AI.
@@eleanorgreywolfe5142 i said borderline.. the amount of detail they clearly over exaggerated, they made it sound like this game would be the most detailed game ever.
There's things to do in Watch_Dogs XD.
Come on, I wouldn't call this a bad thing, most rpgs are like that after all.
Gaming..
Gaming has changed.
There's never been a better time to be a retro gamer.
@@InkyMuste playing NES and ps1 games right now
@@InkyMuste yeah totally, just finished up playing megaman 1 earlier today.
No, just dumb desicions
@@splash_067 been running through my X legacy collection myself.
I feel this is akin to a musician writing a track - sending it to the label and the label going “this is great! We released it and told your fans that’s the new album is complete and will be out in a week!” - the musician cannot be to blame. Yong put it best - it’s a shitstorm of a mess
I really feel bad for the devs, especially the one or multiple that could’ve been used on other areas rather then genital customization.
I'd hate to be on the art team and then see my 8 years of hard work is nothing more than a glitchy mess that is unplayable.
Considering even THAT was half assed idek why they bothered. Just a waste of time
That's the best part of the game.
Considering that we have genital physics and not water physics, splash effect and other physics tells all. I love the game story wise but holy shit was this game over hyped as hell and buggy galore.
@@S1D3W1ND3R015 I think everyone expected the game to be competent to the level that Witcher was, but CDPR's management have been seeing huge bonuses and they wanted the money to keep coming so they just did the same thing all greedy high level leaders do. It feels like at this point this should be part of the hiring process for game studios.... "If you have a game that will sell really well, but it's not finished will you A). Release it anyway for short term gains or B). Release it when it's good enough"
If they pick the first one just tell them "We'll call you".
the devs became their own Johnny Silverhands lol
Ironically
You were the chosen one Cyberpunk! You were said to destroy all games this year!
Cyberpunk 2077: I hate you!
Your fucking name is si fucking good
Everyone: WE WANT CYBERPUNK NOW !!1!!!1!
CDPR: It's not finished yet we still need to polish-
Everyone: WE WAITED 8 YEARS!!!!
CDPR: Alright...
Everyone: IT'S TRASH IT'S NOT EVEN FINISHED >:(
I think deep down, we all knew it was too good to be true...
It's not a terrible game even with bugs and I'm playing on base ps4 (call of duty bundle old as feck) but it could definitely have used some extra dev time.
@@catandrobbyflores agree the game is okay-ish, but the review embargo is what made me shut the door
I didn’t buy into the hype and never heard of the game until a week or so before. I thought what they were saying was pretty standard and I was expecting a next gen GTA with RPG aspects which is t too much to ask
Yeah perfection doesn't exist. Another dose of reality
@@20ZZ20 that's the biggest bullshit I've ever heard, this fucking game was promoted even under the rocks, if you had any type of social media you heard about this game.
Last time I was first, Bethesda was the joke of the internet
Last time I was first, cyberpunk was supposed to be game of the year 😹😹😹
@@Mrgomodefr If they fix the game in 2021, it still can be GOTY, the management just needs to not fuck up again.
@@vd9866 oh please. cmon stop. This game isn’t getting a GOFTY-level fix. They actually have to finish it first. 😂😂
@@vd9866 it came out _this_ year. It can't be GOTY next year.
@@brianjensen5661 "Games eligible for The Game Awards this year must be available for public consumption on or before November 20, 2020. Titles that are released after this date will be eligible for The Game Awards ceremony in 2021."
2020 played its final card.
Looking at you now EA
Should've known something was up when they went back on their word on "no crunch, promise!". I saw this coming a long time ago.
In 2020 we’ve paid forward on disaster for the next ten years, so yeah EA sweating bullets.
There've been sme major patches lately. They still can't seem to fix Johnny's floating cigs though.
It's clear to me at least someone toward/at the top, made these decisions, repeatedly and needs to be gone. CDPR as a whole admits they care more about their public reputation, and this has caused it to be scarred for the years to come. Only way you change that, is by sorting out the leadership who made these horrendous decisions.
Oh without a doubt. CDPR has had management issues waaaaaay back in 2015, Yong yea made a video discussing this very issue as it was in relation towrds the crunch development and release for Witcher 3
I agree 100%
What’s their stock so I can buy it for cheap
I'm trying to find it for the same reason
18.50 as of right now
@@TripleT706 he asked for the name
use DEGIRO, it has access to the polish market. stock is WSE:CDR
@@xXClassicUserXx It is CDR (CD PROJEKT RED S.A.) on Polish WIG stock market.
I wanna see documentary called “Cyberpunk 2077: How to cash in public trust. Exclusive CD Project Red’s top manager confession.”
The game is fine on PC apparently.
@@KARS215 well, when a game is designed for PC, it's to be expected. They scrapped most of the old gen and console stabilisation, tried to make it work for NEW gen which only a small number of people have. So they thought, let's not optimise old gen, who majorty of the people still own.
@@KARS215 yea it is, tho Cdpr still got mass preorder profits from console players and left out that it was basically unplayable on those systems till after release. Even admitted that they largely neglected those versions at the investor meeting
Wait for Internet Historian, he will create the documentary haha
Did you watch the video? They lost a year's worth of value in their stock. They literally wasted public trust.
For some reason it feels that MS do not go harsh on CP77 because they are looking to buy out CDPR (also looking on stocks dive).
Now that there’s so much controversy, let’s hope they follow a path of redemption like No Man’s Sky.
I sure hope so, be a huge letdown if they just abandon it.
Everything is a No Man’s Sky nowadays and it fucking sucks, either release a finished game or don't.
@@CarbonPanther Nah, it's been a pretty solid couple years for games.
I mean, they'll fix the bugs for sure, but them adding all the falsely advertised features seems unlikely at this point. The damage this has done to their image is irreparable.
@@CarbonPanther most of the Sony first party games have been really good
I recall I was in a comment chain here talking about how cdpr was managing their company before the game came out, and everyone told me I was either wrong or a liar when I pointed out cdpr's management was shit. Funny how now the general consensus agrees with what I was saying before now.
The Glassdoor reviews seem to pretty much confirm it.
"Our own pocket". Does that mean people will get fired meanwhile the higher ups will keep their million dollar salary?
This is obviously what will happen, CDPR is large enough now for this to happen. It has already started happening with this scam advertisement.
Most likely.
" we had to give back money, so we gotta cut developers and it will take more time to finish the game, ohh well too bad"
Ofcourse yes
And i bet there will be some CD projekt bots that will defend em 👌
Yes
Okay, anyone sending death threats to the devs over this : Stop. It's just a video game that was rushed out buggy and poorly optimized. If you feel the need to threaten someone's life over this YOU are the problem.
This.
If the people doing that are reading this, then you should know that if you still feel the need to send death threats for some reason, the devs are the last people you should send them to. They've been working themselves to the bone almost non-stop for almost the entirety of Cyberpunk's development, with constant crunch-time hours thanks to the executives decisions. It's the executives who made all the false advertising, it's the executives who delayed the game every single time, and it's the executives who forced it to release unfinished so they could make that holiday money. If you really need to send death threats to someone, and I do mean *need*, because I absolutely don't condone this, then send them to the executives. I'll even go a step further and say this is true of every other Triple A game out there, as it's pretty much universally the executives making all the decisions that ruin the games, with the devs just trying their hardest to make a game that actually works. This is also why day one patches have become so common, as executives want to get the game launched pretty much exactly on the day it's finished, but because of how little time devs are given and how mentally and physically exhausted they are from working in constant crunch conditions the game is almost never actually finished by the time physical copies start getting made.
Governments should take action against those kind of threats, this is not the first time, because death threats are not games, and can cause real panic for the concerned person, maybe those kids have nothing to do in their life except gaming, but they need to grow up.
Well we all know how that turned out
This is why I watch you. Integrity. Even though you praised CDPR for awhile now, you still report the facts. Keep acting like this, and I'll keep watching. Thank you for being real with people.
Yes
lmao integrity? his review he basically shilled for cdpr despite how shallow the game is.
His review was a complete shill. Then when he found out the rest of the internet hated the game, he changed his tune real quick.
I like Yong, but this is not a good example of his integrity.
@@kay_keik7842 Yea, he's clearly still fawning over the CDPR dev team.... Saying management set "unrealistic deadlines".. And yet, they gave the dev team a whopping 8 years to develop a single game. Then they delayed an equally whopping 3 times to give them even more time.. Unrealistic deadlines? Almost as if Yong does not understand that we need deadlines, otherwise nothing ever gets done.
@@jakefoley9539 pretty normal for the guy, he often gets sucked into marketing hype....
Everyone: Refund, refund, refund.
CDPR: “Our 8 millions pre-order post was a meme”
But wasn’t that on PC though ?
Only on steam they have 11 milions copies sold lol
@@walky9037 Bs. 8M is altogether on consoles and PC, don't spread lies.
@@SeriousDragonify That was pre orders noob. I talking about actually steamspy stats. 11 milions users have the game just on steam now so yes, game was a massive success. I woder how much they sold on consoles and gog/epic/stadia
@@walky9037 Give me citation instead of telling your bs. 8M is real citation. Stop spreading misinformations.
8M sold all across all platforms in 1.
That is a fact, NOOB.
I can see the Internet Historian writing an essay about Cyberpunk 76, I mean, 2077
Even if CyberPunk weren't buggy its still an incredibly dull, uninspiring game with possibly one of the most boring open worlds Ive played. What a Mess.
I was looking forward to this game, I'm glad I didn't preorder it.
same here
It works just fine on PS5, really enjoy it so far... It should've never been released on last-gen tho.
I was so damn close. Glad I waited 😌
It’s still a good game
Yeahhh me too ...ill wait a couple of months to get it... Along with a ps5