How to Stack or Move Mutations | Breeding Mutations Explained Ingame ► Ark Survival Ascended
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ย. 2023
- This is a guide video on how to get mutations in ASA with breeding & stacking mutations on Ark Survival Ascended. This takes into account the new changes made to how mutations work in the game.
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Idk why all the videos I’ve been watch have been confusing the crud outta me on this. But this video…absolutely nailed it man. Thank you so very much. It’s like a window has been opened in my brain. Seriously. You’re the man.
Glad it was helpful!
excellent video clearly explaining the mutations. I would point out that you will not always see a new color with a new mutation. At least with ASE, a dino has 6 color regions but not all dinos use all 6 regions, so sometimes a color mutates that is not actually used so you won't see the difference. Other times, the mutated color is so similar to the old color that it's nearly impossible to notice the difference.
Thanks, that is true
By far the clearest explanation of how this whole breeding/mutation process works, hats off to you for being an excellent teacher. Thank you, after many (many) videos trying to understand how this works, this was crystal clear. Cheers, liked and subscribed!
Glad it was helpful!
Bro finally someone who knows how to explain things, i understood perfectly thank you!
Glad I could help you
@@ConCon im glad you could help me too
Awesome video. I've managed to get my head around it finally. Your video is by far the most straight forward and to the point, that I have watched so far. For that, you get a new subscriber
You're welcome thanks!
Thanks a ton! Just figured out I have been doing it wrong for a week, but I totally get it now. Going to point questions on breeding here. These two videos are so simple.
Glad it helped! Thanks for sharing the info 🙂
This was the best way I've seen this mechanic explained. Liked and Subscribed. Excellent job.
Glad it helped you :D
Very nice guide! Finally, get how to breed dinos! Dude, really it was the most complicated thing to do! I have watched some videos about "breed" dinos but still don't get the mutation... with your guide maybe at my level, I say "for dummies" I understand it! TY for your work and TY for sharing it in this simple way! :)
Glad I could help!
Great video - one easy trick to keep track of stats I have found is to simply name the male breeders after their key stats. I.E. you would name that initial male 330 H 132 M if you do not have the tek binocs (or other ways to check stat levels directly), or 0 H 0 M if you do.
That's a great idea!
Best video on this topic I've seen yet. thankyou!
You're welcome
Thanks to the other video you posted, ive managed to breed a Siiiiick Megatherium genepool. Took me 10 weeks though, on arkpocalips settings. I keep sending your videos to my ark mates. Youre a beast🎉🎉
That's awesome!
Another Great Video, very informative thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
Well done that was a excellent explanation of breeding
Thank you kindly
Very nice video!! thanks man
Glad it helped!
This one explained it more in depth than the last, thanks heaps😊😊
Glad it was helpful!
Wonderful video. Wish that Tek scope was easier to get but it should be fun
Thanks, yeah I normally use the super spyglass mod for that
this video probably the most understandable. could you please make video, how to clean mutations and keep stacking up ?
Just breed with females that have no mutations
Great explanation. Thanks 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Finally a video I understand 🔥🔥
Glad to hear that
nice well explained
Thanks and welcome
Very clear explained! ( i am not the brightest 😅) so if i understand something i didnt understand before i think its very well explanaid
Glad it was helpful!
Don't understand why i watched those other 3 30 minute videos, if only i knew this one existed... GG'z appreciate your time.
You're welcome
Enjoying your videos. How hard is it to get more stacks of a certain stat like another second melee, third melee,etc….. is it the same odds as getting the first one?
No it's not the same. Each mutation is a random chance. But passing down the mutation stack is almost half the odds as getting the first mutation.
Howdy do you mind if i ask what editing software you use i love how clean your vids are!
Thanks! Adobe premiere pro
Hey, this was an awesome explanation! Liked and subscribed. I've watched tons of vids and read tons of comments, and I still wasn't 100% that I was getting it; this vid nailed it in for me. I do have 2 questions:
1. Can you use max lvl 150 dinos for mutation breeding like this? It's taken me so long to figure out breeding that I'm already taming 150s lol. Can I have my clean male and females with the perfect stats and make my mutation lines from those? I've seen so many vids recommending you use low lvl dinos for the mutation breeding, but it's not clear why. Only exlanation I've found is that starting with low lvls means you can start breeding mutations earlier in the game and then just combine the mutation into your max dinos later. Seems like you can save a step if you're already endgame, no?
2. You mentioned that once you combine 2 mutation lines, the matrilineal and patrilineal will both be maxed out. Is there no way to add a 3rd mutation line and get the dino lvl even higher (unofficial)?
The only reason you do low level is when you don't have the perfect tames YET. If you do, then start on those.
Add the 2 lines and then breed with no mutation dino to stack all mutations to the one side again so you can add a 3rd, 4th, 5th mutation line
Beautiful! Thank you so much for the explanation, much appreciated! ❤
Amazing guide, mate liked and subscribed. What mod are you using for mutation potions.
Glad you enjoyed it! I forgot the name as I used it quickly, it was the most popular one at the time about mutations
Thank you so much for taking the time for this, one question, does imprinting matter or can it be ignored during the process of stacking the mutations?
Doesnt matter. Ony if you intend to use the imprinted dino for fighting
If you imprint, you make it hard to track the base stat values, imprinting doesn't affect baby stat levels
oh my gosh i had no idea that breeding had changed from ASE and was wondering why it was so difficult to get the mutations i wanted and now i know and i have to fix all my breeding lines lol
Good luck :D
Great video man, thanks for it and the one before with the drawings, one question, what happend if im breeding theris (or any other creature), clean females 231lvl and a 237 male with 3 mutations on melee... after hatching the eggs, i get a 233 with a mutation on melee, this one is good to keep breeding? what matters are the mutations right?
Yes because you can move then mutation stacks onto a better Dino with high base stata later on
This was super helpful. Thank you! Question- What would be the downside of keeping both health and melee mutations that hit on that first male mutant line? I noticed you focused only on one stat and then started a full separate mutant male line for the other stat?
The downside is that both are not guranteed to breed down, sometimes you might get the new hp mutation on the baby but it doesn't get the melee so you have to kill it and keep breeding hoping that you keep both mutated stats PLUS getting a new mutation on one of them. Depends how lucky you are
That makes sense thank you!
I apologize if this was mentioned and I missed it, but is it possible to combine melee mutations from 2 separate lines? For example if I have a melee mutation on my health stat line, can I add the melee mutation to the stack of mutations in my melee line, or do I have to get the melee mutation in my melee line for it to increase?
Not possible.
ConCon would you consider a video about why you avoid stacking mutations on both the Male and the Female until their summed mutations = 19, at which point you just do mutations on the Male side? In my current understanding it would halve the amount of babies you have to kill off (all the females) but only works until your number of mutations gets to 19
If you stay on the male side and breed with females with zero mutations then the babies mutations all move over to the male side above 20/20
does it have to be male? or can you do female lines only as well?@@ConCon
You can do female line as well but the females have time between each breed when male can go all the time
Nice video, do you know an program called Ark Smart Breeding? it's a library where you can export your dinos, and it has a built-in breeding plan. I'm trying to use it, maybe you can use it and teach us!
I haven't heard of it but I'll do some research
Best explanation I've seen for ASA but God damn getting 2 with same stat's to start with ain't fun lol
True
thank you so so much for all the breeding videos, now im working on a raptor project and i got a mutation in oxygen but i dont want it should i ignore it and go back to the original pair and wait for another male with a mutation in melee or hp? and can i use a male but thats not showing any "2"s/mutations in any stats but there is 1/20 in the ancestry as it got the highest stats from both in hp and melee?! thanks
Ignore the oxygen mutation its a waste. The males can have any mutation amount you have but try use females that have zero mutations
Question: if you want both melee and HP mutations on the final result, why only stack melee on one line and a wholly different line for HP?
If you have a male with Melee mutation, and then his son gets the melee mutation + a HP mutation, would'nt that be just as good as getting another melee mutation?
You then have to hope each baby gets the Melee AND the HP. So it takes longer because sometimes you will get the melee increase but the HP doesn't pass down so you have to throw it away.
Great guide! Does this process work if you wanted to get a 3rd mutated stat lets say stamina for example
yup
Well you'll more likely breed the melee son until you get a melee and another stat mutation to continue, its just more of a lucky chance to happen
Yes, you would want to have separate line of stam males. When you have all the stats finished mutating you can combine the health & melee as in the video onto a female, then mate her with the final stam male until you get a baby (ideally a male & female pair) with all the three final stats.
Is it possible to do this with more than 3 stats? Like having an Argie with maxed Health, Stam, Weight, and Melee? As long as you have separate mutation lines?
ConCon I know you do a bunch of videos about asa so i have two questions involving single player. I know 254 is max mutations. Its thats 254 total? Or can i get 254 into all the stats? Also in singleplayer do you know the max damage % for weapons is it still 755%?
It's 254 on each stat, and not sure about the max % for weapons
254 mutation levels is the max for each stat; each mutation raises the mutation level by +2, so you would need 127 mutations in a stat to reach that max. I know the ASE official servers also had a total level cap (450 for most dinos, 500 for some others), which meant you could only get one stat that high; not sure if the ASA offical servers have the same level cap.
755.3% is still the max weapon damage
Nice video! I am not sure to understand, should I only do one kind of mutation at a time? Can I do for example health & Melee or the game only allow one kind of mutation per dino? Meaning I would have to bread two different male with each Melee and Health
Okay you answered in the last part of the video haha, do you recommand any patterns to get good health/melee mutation ?
What do you mean by patterns? Its actually faster to make an individual breeding line for the melee stat and another one for the health stat and once both are high enough, breed them together to get a dino with both high stats.
Does it have to be only one stat at a time? I cant just mix them? aslong as they all land on paternal would it stack?
Remember the baby has like 50% chance to get the mother or the father's stat, and then you still have to hope the mutation lands on the right stat while hoping that it's getting the stat from the father.
If you add more stats into this then you have to play those odds as well to keep both the right stats passing down
Right, what if I line bred full mutations on mele.
Then did another line full mutations on health both max.
If bred the end results together wouldn’t I get a Dino with that health stat and mele? Or will it only get half and half?
It would get both full lines
Hi ConCon! So on ark se i would clean steak 20hp mutations then clean stack 20melee mutations then i would breed those 2 together until i hit 1.3bill mutations then breed back to perfect female to get negative then split them again to continue clean stacking. Will that not work anymore?
No idea to be honest
Hey what about probabilities in mutations, do you know if they are still the same? I remember it was like 7% with no mutations and then 3%, something like that
I'm not sure about exact values and probabilities
I heard that each parent provides a 3.5% chance as long as they are under 20/20 mutations on both sides. So you get a 7% combined chance until a parent reaches 20/20 mutations on one side. If the other parent still has less than 20/20, then you can still get the 3.5% chance from that one. Keeping the mutation on the patrilineal side should let you use the 7% chance for as long as possible. If anyone finds anything wrong with this info, please correct me so we may all benefit 😊 but this is what I have gathered from the material I've seen.
So does it not matter for example if I have a wild male and female 150 raptor could I have done this with a lvl 1 and a 150 or is both 150 parents better
Is ASA it doesn't matter since you can move the mutation stack to the higher levels later. Breed with what you have
Hey, so great videos explaning the mutations, the best i saw for sure, i still don't understand 1 thing, how would you keep breeding in the end to get the highest possible meele and health mutations in the same dino? You keep the lines separated and then lets say you have a male with 60 meele mutations, another with 60 health mutations, now what? try to pass them into females and then what?
Thanks in advance
Once you have the amount you want, you make a male of one line and a female of the other and breed them together to get both mutation stacks on one dino
@@ConCon makes sense, thank you
So question, why do we need to start with a low level tame? Is this significant? Or can I start by making a perfect pair and then breed for mutations
Its only significant if you just started the character today and don't have any tames going yet, its a way to get a headstart before you find the best tames. If you ALREADY have the perfect pair, start with them.
Is there a way to switch the mutations from 1 side to the other side, i have 8 mutations on the mothers side on a male , is there a way to move the mutations over to the other side
When you breed with a clean female the mutations will all move to one aide
If I’m looking for melee and heath I have to raise one at the time or can I use a father with both health and melee with clean females?
Which ever you prefer
Can you breed for both health and meele at the same time or should I run 2 separate breed line
You can but it becomes a little harder because sometimes you get the melee increase but the HP didn't carry down, so it splits and you need to keep trying until you get both HP and Melee and then a new mutation on top.
Hi I need help understanding, im breeding ankies and my male im currently using has 1 point in health 1 point in weight and 1 point in melee all on dads side (6) with (0) female mutations. So im wondering if thats ok to keep trying to get a stat up on those or to start again and target one at a time, im using 12 clean females but i dont know if im just getting unlucky as ive been through a few eggs, thanks.
It's very hard to do it that way, it's best to have each line separate because not every mutation breeds down each time as I'm sure you've noticed. Also try get a lot more clean females
@@ConCon thanks I will start fresh
Tiny question, do you need to aim to only one stat? like just go for mele damage%. What would happen if i breed one dino with 20/20 mutation stacks on health with another with 20/20 mutation stacks on mele%? (Great video btw)
Only do one stack at a time , what I do is 4 females to one health male mutt and keep swapping the male out and stack on just the male only health, then u can do the same thing for just melee get that to whatever you want I did 45 on health and 45 on melee then when they are where you want them get a male and female and breed together to combine both and then ur done but keep the single ones incase u wanna breed them more in the future
What salty said is true
Thanks! I have another question tho. All the moms im breeding (9 moms) are siblings that have the same stats in melee. ¿is that wrong? because im not getting much mutations. @@saltysavage225
I have 217 megatheriums both female and male and i have bred them up and got 248 megatheriums (perfect pair) and if i want to get melee mutations ill have to keep breeding them for melee and once i am done with that, ill have to do the same with the health stat? (Starting from the lvl 248 megatheriums). And when i get the melee creature that is maxed out with mutations and the same with health, then ill have to just breed them to get the best megatherium? I would really apreciate the answer😁, just making sure.
Yes exactly 💯
Say you get a colour and stat mutation at the same time for your first mutation would the baby show up with 2/20? Does that also take up another stat mutation slot as you said 127 mutation is the cap?
A mutation will always be 1/20 and add BOTH a stat and colour
@@ConCon thank you so much :)
Have a question. So I’m currently breeding mutations on theris and have separate lines for health and melee. I’m currently at +4 for health but almost have another raised at +6 health. My question is that I have 3 mutations on my +6 health theri but it only shows the 1 mutation of +2 on the health instead of +6. Is it still stacking mutations this way as well so that the +6 is passed on? I have no Tek binoculars to confirm.
As long as the health value is higher on each baby
@@ConCon Ah ok gotcha thanks!
so when you are breeding low levels, are you basically searching for a male/female that have ALL the points in one stat? For instance, lowest level on my server is 5, so should I be looking for level 5's with all 5 in the stat i want, or anything above 3 etc?
No, level does not matter. The idea is that you can start breeding mutations EARLY in the game before you've tamed the best max level dinos. Because sometimes it can take days before you find a good max level dino
@@ConCon ohhhh okay gotcha, that makes a lot of sense then
@@ConCon So if you have a low level Dino with mutations that you worked hard to breed for and tame a max level later on, you can simply breed the mutations onto the new max level? Just confirming that I understand what took place.
That's your basic guide? I was lost after a minute. Damn. I'm too old for this sheet. I appreciate it none the less
Ah yeah it requires still a bit of knowledge on general breeding to understand how to take it further. In general ark is filled with lots of info to try absorb
The basic one was the one before this that he mentioned at the beginning. I highly recommend watching that one - easily the best mutation video and the first that made it make sense to me
2 questions.
1. What’s the max base stat you can get ?
Also I noticed if you look at wilds with binoculars and see the base stat then it goes up a few numbers after tamed is there a way to calculate that ? Say like he’s got 35 Health points then after tamed it’s 40 is there a way to tell how many points it will go up ?
1. A dino's level is distributed into all it's stats. Theoretically the max is the level of the dino. But almost impossible to get a dino with all its points into one stat.
2. Taming efficiency. If you have 100% taming efficiency you get extra levels in the creature, they are randomly assigned into any stat. Its like a gacha game and you have to hope you get more levels in the right stats you want.
Im still new when it comes to breeding and right now im stacking for stam mutations but i got twin males with one stam and one melee mutations and im wondering if i replace my male with one stam mutation with the one i talked about or just keep breeding till i get one with 2 stam mutations
You can either split the males and make a stam mutation line or a melee one separately which you join later on. Either is possible.
Great videos thanks, maybe I missed it but how can I clear a mutation on a female side. I have a few females that have 1 or should I not bother?
You can't clear it. You need new females then
very nice Video thank!! But i have one question. you told us the max mutations are 254 but a dino has a cap of 20 mutations. How is it possible to do more than 20 in one stat? and if its then stacking on the other site how can get more than 40?
When you keep the moms without mutations you can stack past 20 on the paternal side infinitely (or up to 254 points in the mutation counter for each stat, because 255 or higher removes all the increases)
@@ConCon if you go to 254 you can still add levels from levelups though without breaking it, right? Also, you should breed your original two to have ALL stats the same, because then looking for mutations is simply looking for a +2 levels. You had your "perfect females" with 224 and 219.. but if they were the same it would be much easier to spot mutations. It's fairly easy to breed up base "perfects" that have the same level, but it is one extra step.. worth it in the end.
Would it be better or easier to get health and melee on same male or just to make 2 differnt breeding lines?
It really depends on RNG
2 different lines will be easier; if you try to stack 2 or more stats at once you will be constantly running into the issue where one of the stats gets a desired mutation, but the other stat ends up getting the clean female's stat, not the mutated one.
I'm terribly confused with my theri mutations. I'm showing 5 mutations from the paternal side and 2 mutations from the maternal side, however I only have 3 mutations in health ( +6 ) and 1 mutation in melee ( +2 ). Why on Earth does it say 7 mutations total? My perfect pair were 232s with identical stats and no mutations, and my most recent male, with the supposed 7 mutations, is lvl 240. The level makes sense if you consider the 4 mutations I have, but for some reason the ancestry says I have 7 mutations... I made sure I never bred 2 mutated theris together, so there shouldn't have been any strange stacking. What am I missing here?
Sounds like you're using a female with mutations, when you breed with them it starts multiplying the counters you see out of 20. Thats why I say don't breed with females that have mutations otherwise you lock yourself out of progressing later on once both sides are over 20. If you did everything correctly then you should never have more than 1 mutation showing in the maternal side because each time you breed with a mom that has zero mutations, the mutations all move to the paternal side.
Hello, why is it better to mutate on low levels? Just because it is simple to overview the stats?
No because you tame lower levels earlier in your game before finding the perfect max level dinos. So you can already start with mutations early on
I always breed all stats together.
I start with my breeding pair 00. Ik keep breeding until i got a stat mut on health/stam/melee. If its a Male I go back to the Female 00. If it's a Female I breed with the Male 00. When that 01 gets a new mutation, I go back to F02 with M00 and M02 with F00. That way i dont waist mutations. Once you have a male, you'll reset Female mutations back to 0 and put them on the P side.
If you have a F02 and you get a M02, you breed both with F00 and M00 until 1 gets a mutation.
That can work as well
I’m struggling keeping track without tek binoculars, I’ve got my first mutation stack but I can’t tell what the second mutation is, no stats are different from either parent
Is it higher than the first mutation? If not then it sounds like a wasted mutation or something.
How many times did u need to breed the low level mutated male with the high level clean one to get the high level one at the end? I am only getting below 200s
It can take a while depending on luck
@@ConCon another thing, how can I fully imprint the final baby instantly? I have waited long enough i think. Managed to get 11 weight mutations for my argy
I got a male out off an egg i bought but it got a mutation on the right sight (unknown to me) these are the stats i want for my dinos. i have been breeding it with low 0 0 females to give everything the same stats, but the females have 1 1 mutation now. so i got the right stats but the females have 1 1 is this a problem or do i have to get a new male with 0 0 and start the proces all over again?
Females need to have zero mutations
but what shut i do if i get a femal with the right mutation stack ??
can i bread it with a male that hase 0 mutations or do i have to kill it an wait for a male
Yes you can breed it with a clean male to get a male baby with the mutation stack, but its very rare because you can only make 1 baby at a time
Is each individual mutation inherited separately? So if my male has 3 health mutations the babies will either inherit 0, 1, 2 or 3 mutations? If so surely the odds of transferring 10+ mutations become very small? Having to make 10x 50% rolls in a row?
No it's not, you either get;
1. Dad's 3 mutation health stat
2. Mom's 0 mutation health stat
3. Dad's 3 mutation health stat + new mutation
4. Mom's 0 mutation health stat + new mutation
Obviously you want the 3. option
@@ConCon thank you! So in option 4, there’s no way to transfer that mutation over to the male side stack? And those babies with a mutation on the mums side should just be trashed? Thanks for your help
if u don't have de binoculars tek u can use Smart breeding,works same
Yes you can
Can you mutate more than one stat to 254? Obviously with two different males that have two different mutations.
Yes you could theoretically do all stats to 254
So theoretically, on Offical we can get 127 mutations (2 points) for each stat, as the Hard Cap for Official Mutations?
Yes BUT official in ASE had a level cap for your dinos, unsure if ASA is the same but I bet it is
Hello are the begining moms all wild with 0 mutations or you breed 0 females from first mom and dad ? Thx
In ascended you can use any as long as they have 0 mutations
so, is it possible /feasible to get full 254 in multiple stats, or even all of them?
Yes though it will take a very long time
Does the magnifiying glass show the stats or would we have to do the overseer on official before we can see the stats
overseer but there are spyglass mods that show everything the tek binoculars do
I think the magnifying glass only shows HP and torpor values
So on official we are screwed until we do the overseer
@@benjiwalton4666 yeah basically but it was the same as evolved.
Ok what if I have a perfect stud with all the desired stats + 1 dmg mutation. And I have a female with + 2 dmg mutations. How would I go about transferring that ?
Leave the perfect one for last, breed the female with clean males to get the +2 dmg muts on a male baby, then breed that male baby with a large group of clean females to stack dmg mutations to whatever like +127 and then was you're happy with enough mutations, make a female baby with the +127 and breed it with the perfect stud until you get perfect stats with the +127 mutation stack
Hello I have been breeding carbos on official servers and I have a mom and a dad wild tamed exact level and stats(level 12) I just got a baby (level 14) which I can tell has an HP mutation because I can see it in the stats… although when I go to the ancestors to verify it it still says 0/0 for both… is this a bug?
That's odd, have you imprinted the baby's imprinting scale?
Now, the eye also wants something. That wolf with orange feet and toxic green fur, looked like an abomination. Will those first mutations that take hold determine the color down the line, or can it still be overwritten with a "new" mutation?
The color change with each mutations can change any of the colors at random. So yes it can be overwritten.
@@ConCon but does that mean the color is always linked to the mutation stat you want? Lets say you have a color with a worse stat, but to get that higher stat you always get the color you don't want?
So, if I understand this correctly. Let's say you have a male with 254 mutations in damage, and a female with the 254 mutations in health, you can make a baby that has both the health and damage stat? You can simply not increase the mutations anymore with the baby that has both. RIght?
Yes, if you increase beyond 254, it breaks and removes all the bonus stats and acts like a 0 again
I think im doin it wrong lol... now i have a rex male wit 2 mut on health and 2 in Melee.. and im breeding wit 2 Female wit zero mutations.... but if i saw in ur video when u get the mut on male, u tamed a couple from wild to get thr higher stats on melee and health then breed them until get a other couple wit max stats on health and melee
.. then i dnt understand if u get other 4 wild females to breed wit the male with melee mutation, or just breed wit females u get from us last couple... bc u also say females wit no mutations.... so my question is am I doin it wrong then?
Make as many females with no mutations to breed with
So you’re saying to leave all the females at base health and don’t throw in mutated ones?
Just asking because I’m breeding right now and when I breed a male wit ya mutation and a female with no mutation. Sometimes the baby will get the mutation and sometimes it won’t. In my case 218 is the base level and 220 is when I have the mutation.
I’ll hatch 10 eggs and half of them will be 218 and half will be 220
Yes, here's why: th-cam.com/video/QfNXm3mTSa4/w-d-xo.html
@@ConCon thank you
So if I get a mutation on a female do I just breed that with the clean male until it transfers into a son with the mutation, then replace the clean male with the mutated son?
Yes you can do that
Is imprinting important at all for the baby dinos?
Not unless you plan to ride them and fight with them
just for my smoll brain..basicly means: (my example) I have a male rex with a hp mutation of 2. I breed him with a lot of clean females(not mutations) until one baby comes out(pref. male) with a 4 mutation on hp and so on until its 20/20 with hp mutation. And afterwards I try to get a female with a damage mutation and breed it until it has 20/20 dmg mutation, is that correct?(my server is also using a mod to change the gender of the dino, so i could make it quicker to just breed males witht he wanted mutation, IF im correct)
You want a separate line of males per stat. After you get your HP mutations done like you said (note that you can go past 20/20 by using mutated males and clean females; the females can keep triggering mutations until a stat hits 254 levels, which is 127 mutations), you would start again with a clean male and go for melee mutations; note you can use the same clean female breeders. Then you stack up mutation on melee the same way. Once you have as many melee mutations as you desired, you will have a male with that final melee mutation level count. You can then either use that gender swap mod to turn him into a female, and mate with your final health male until you get male & female babies with both final stats, or without mods mate your final melee male with a female until you have female with desired stat to mate with final health male.
@@dreadcthulhu6842 jeez thats a nice explanation from you, thank you kind human being! =D
@@dreadcthulhu6842 also One question regarding mutation, on some dinos it tells me 3 mutations but the binocular only shows 2 for the stat, is the 1 the color?
If you keep the females clean you can go way beyond the 20/20 limit. Just don't got more than 127 mutations into a single stat (would show as 0/254/0)
@@ConCon I see I see, thank you
I’m confused. I bred rhinos looking for health, stamina, and melee damage mutations. I ended up with a 4 in each but my mutation counter is maxed out (35)on patrilineal and matrilineal sides. How do I have 35 mutations on each side but only a(4) in the second column? That’s way too low
That means you have been breeding with parents that both have mutations. The mutation counter goes up drastically even if the mutated stats aren't there if both parents have mutations listed in the counters.
Thank you so much! That fixed everything but I had to start from fresh base parents. Luckily I wasn’t very far in.
Can you start this process with perfect tamed Dino’s and skip doing it on low lvls
Yes
Can points still be wasted in speed? (Not just mutations but base stats?)
I can't recall how it works on ASA
Does it HAVE to be level 1? Because I don’t believe I’ve sl ever seen a level 1. I’ve only seen lv5 in the wild
No its just an example
this is crazy i cant imagine if i got rexes like that
Yeah they are super strong
How do you get two dinos with the same stats? Im wanting to breed rexes, i tamed two level 16s and their stats arent the same
Breed them until the babies eventually have the same stats
@@ConCon great makes sense. Thank you!
how to reset mutations is there away to do that? 😢 i got 20/20 in left side and I don’t have the old females
Breed with a female with 0 mutations.
Is there a mutt cap, I've hit 90 mutt on Rex army but I've spend around 10h and can't get the 91 health mutt on them they have 29k health at this point
254 is max, at 255 the bonus is removed and acts like 0 again
if i already have high level ones and not low ones, cant i just mutate on them?
Yes of course
is it possible to get 2 different mutation when hatches?
No you only get one mutations in a single hatch, but you can keep that mutation on the parent and breed a baby with another mutation
So how do you transfer a colour mutation from a female to a male with stat mutations?
You have to hope both move across
I'm someone comfortable in my understanding of this, having played and bred on ark since its initial release. However, on ASA early on I'm having issues. On official pve and breeding rexs. I've got my first mutation, and it's a female. I'm breeding her back to the clean original 0/0 male and even when I get a male pop with the stat, it's always on the female side. I cannot get it to swap to the male to continue on. Am I missing something or just unlucky. @ me for a response as I'll probs not see it.
That's fine, it moves to patrilineal after you breed the new male with a clean female.
@ConCon ah the penny just dropped. Raise the mut female. Breed to 0/0 male, pop baby male with mut on wrong side still, raise, breed back to clean 0/0 female and get 'the same' male pop but mut will be stacked on male side. Got it!
I play on official pve and traded someone for a Boss rex and they have over 20 muts on both sides, how did they go over the cap ?
As long as you always breed the mutated dino with a non-mutated dino you can stack all the mutations onto one side over 20 and it makes the other side go to 0/20.
@@ConCon so if I get a female with muts and breed it with a clean male then they will all go to the left?
I’ve been rocking mutations for the last 4 days.I’ve managed to get my Thylas with 12 points into health and 1 into atk.What I haven’t been able to do is have a stacked grp of Dino’s with 1,2 and 3 points into 1 stat like we see here. I’m hopeful someone will show me how this is done ty
But don't you already have that with the 12 mutations in health and 1 in melee?
What are those potions in your inventory
It's a mod that speeds up mutations so that I could test this faster
One thing I learned from this is that the % stat added per mutation is always the same and is not based on a % of the original melee damage number.
That number is about 11.56% and is always the same amount added to the % of melee damage for every mutation no matter what the starting melee damage was on any of the wolves. They could have 150 melee or 300 melee yet each mutation would only add 11.56% to that number so 161.56% and 311.56%
The reason I think this is important is because if it was based on a % of the melee on the dino it would be different, lets say 5% per mutation, that would mean the 150% melee would now be 157.5% (5% of 150 = 7.5%) and the 300% melee would be 315% (5% of 300 = 15%)
Just for fun this would be the difference for each scenario for the 300% melee dino with 40 mutations
300% + (40 x 11.56 = 462.4%) = 762.4%
300% + (40 x (5% of 300 = 15) = 600) = 900%
This number could go even higher if the 5% is based on the melee number after each mutation, pointless info considering its not lol!
Also this is purely based on the wolf only.
I hope this makes sense?
Are you sure, do you have any clips you can show maybe? This definitely wasn't the case in ASE since the mutation point was functionally identical to a real point.
@@Surxe Tbh I'm working those figures out based on ConCons video, it could be different breeding in game but I dont see why it would? I dont mind being proved wrong as a % based on the actual stat would be far better.
If you look at the numbers in the video, everytime he gets a mutation it goes up by 11.56% not a % of the stat figure. I hope this makes sense?
I'm also not saying this is the official number in game btw, I'm just saying that in this video each mutation point goes up the same value.
@@Surxe If you look from 10.50 onwards he shows that the high level wolf gets the 6 mutation points (3 actual points) and that the melee before was 399.1 but with the 3 points added its goes to 433.8 which is a difference of 34.7/3 = 11.56
Now if you go back to the start of the vid when he first starts getting mutations its more or less the same figure when the low level wolves get a mutation.
Now here is an interesting thing, what if the 11.56 would actually be higher if you got 2 higher melee wolves and not low level ones? Does this mean when you add those points from the low level mutated dinos they only get that low level % per point added (11.56 in this case) wereas this % point could be higher in higher level dinos? If so this would make the mutation point building not as affective using low level dinos to mutation point gather!
In other words what if two 225 wolves produced a mutation that gave a point score of 50 to be added and not 11.56 like the low level ones! One quick way to see if this is the case would be to breed two wolves of high level to see if the point score per mutation is higher than two low level ones! ConCon back to you!
Well, if it was a multiplicative 5% each mutation it would be exponential and that would be cataclysmic as no other points would have any significance.
@@jodie9649its a static % that varies per creature, multiplied by server settings. The amount you get from a mutation is equal to the amount you get from 2 levels into the same stat, assuming it works like ASE (seems like it does)