This is not how statistical math works. Probability of at least one mutation = 1 - (1 - 0.07)^n. Where n = the number of females bred. Therefore, the 4 female horses actually equals a 0.25 probability IE 25%. 12 female horses (3 sets) ends up being 58%
Thank you and well said. I was just about to write the same comment. It should be intuitive to people that you cannot get above a 100% chance, and that like with rolling an imaginary 100 sided dice, even if you roll it 14 times, you are not “guaranteed” to roll a 1-7 for a mutation. Teacher needs teaching.
GUARANTEE??? Maximizing chance is not the same as guarantee. There is no such thing as guaranteed mutation in Ark. And you know it. Stop clickbaiting hard, it's annoying.
Your math is not correct. And it is never a guarantee just because you add more. 90% should never be just rounded up to 100%. Also. Did they add a cap to how many females can mate with a male? My set up in SAE was 1 male and 10-15 females. I will have to check this in ASA. One more thing. It is not pronounced "trow". The correct way to pronounce it is "troff".
You can’t add probabilities like that. You have to use binomial probability to get the actual chance. It will take about 30 babies for you to have a 90% chance to for at least 1 mutation
30 Babies = 88.7% Chance however... to get a mutation in a stat you want... 30 babies with 6 stats now that can be mutated = 29.7% Chance. To get a 90% chance of mutation in the stat you want you need 196 females. and 648 dinos = a mutation in the stat you want every breed cycle like... 99.9% of the time.
The only explanation I can think of for the 4 females to 1 male is that no matter how many females you breed with only 4 of them have the chance to mutate??? I am def going to test this out of official Ill start with all tamed 0/0 dinos for the male and females so we can just stick with the 7% mutation chance I will breed 25 groups of 4 females with a male Take that same male and breed it with as many females as I can fit in breeding range. Lets say I can only reach 50 of the females at a time. Thats 2 seperate breed rounds to get 100 eggs So if my theory is correct The batch of 100 eggs from my 25 groups of 4 females, all 100 eggs will have a a 7% chance at mutating My second batch of 100 eggs from my 2 groups of 50 females, only 8 of those eggs will have a 7% chance at a mutation Idk if this is true in ASA or even in ASE but I have done a lot of breeding for mutations and we used over 100 females to breed with and that 7% or even 3.5% never seemed like I was really getting that. Statistically I should have had either 7 babies with mutations out of each hatch or 3 babies (ark never rounds up) if I was over the 20 mutation cap on 1 side. This was never the case. I would go weeks hatching 100's of eggs and get no mutations at all, not even on the stats I wasn't looking for mutations on. I know the math does go a little deeper because its a 7% or 3.5% chance of a mutation BUT its a 1 in 6, or 5 depending on the dino, chance that the mutation will be on the stat you want it on, which makes the odds even lower for getting what you are looking for The only reason I am going to test this is because I have gone 100's of eggs at a time with no mutations at all and I always tried the squeeze as many females as possible into the breed range so maybe what he says about only 4 females to 1 male has some merit
@@TeachersGameToo It must have changed because I've been running a raptor gang bang for the last couple days with 8 females to 1 male all breeding at the same time. Seems like the limit is only based on how many females you can get within "breeding range" of the male.
I don't think its ever been only 4 females at a time. I mean I didnt start playing til The Center was the newest map but thats still a long time. The only limit is how many females you can fit in the breeding bubble.
Im currently breeding with 57 rex females that i all let grow up in a small spot that i buildt where i can change up the male easy via ramp...idont know how you get to that 4:1 ratio, its just that some Creatures have a smaller mating radius than others
To call this video a guide is being extremely generous. There is a serious lack of information regarding breeding in this 'guide'. Hilariously incomplete. The item the character is holding is obtained by beating Alpha bosses. If you're beating Alpha bosses, you don't need this video.
14 female gives at least one mutation at 65.4% chance, divided by all stats its like 9.3% for desired one. 30 female is perfect number and any higher wont do much different except drop frames
If true the 1 to 4 thing has to be new because back in ASE I had a male Megatherium surrounded by a dozen (or at the very least 8) females in Fjordur getting it on for mutation breeding.
It's not, he's incorrect. I'm currently breeding 14 rex females (can't do more in SP because of distance) and they will all lay eggs at exactly the same time.
@@kamar1171have you tried raising the clean breeder females on top of each other so they mesh in like you can do on Evolved? wonder if they stopped that.
hey teach! can you please bring a super dino with the best possible melee and health and show us the ancestral line? this way we can understand the milestones and get back to the videos where it's necessary. As a new player, I find it very difficult to understand the whole mutation process
go watch seashell gamings videos on mutation process, she will walk you through the basics up to mastery, this video is completely full of misinformation and will waste you tons of time. Good luck.
You should breed 1 male to as many females as he can reach. I believe in single player it's approx. 2 foundations distance. I can get about 12 to 14 females close enough to my males that he will breed them all at once. You want to make sure that the mutations you are breeding for are on different males. Like a male for health mutations, a male for melee mutations, etc. So that while the health mutation is growing you can be breeding the melee mutation and so forth. You always bring the mutated offspring back to breed to your group of unmutated females.
I just started playing a few weeks ago.. ive been trying to breed rex's. I have about 28 babys that have come from breeding 1 male to 4 females. do i just have bad luck? ~update i now have over 35 with not 1 mutation
U have to breed with zero mutations females only or the mutation points go crazy. They raise but u wont get any status up. If a mutation comes in a female get it to a male and breed this male with zero mutations females again. With the mutations only in the patrilineal side all the new ones that came from a mother will add to the status.
Lets say you have a breeding line of rexes. The base males and females - it's better and easier to have mutations on males because it takes considerably less time to breed them. Males can breed with as many females as it's possible at once. Females however can breed with only one male at a time. Let's say you are doing the 20 melee mutations one after another. Melee 1 male with 1 melee mutation breeds with non-mutated base females. The next baby turns out to be a female. Her 2 melee mutations have to carry over to a male.. So now you have to raise her and breed her with your non-mutated base male. Now, you're looking for a male baby with the 2 melee mutations. I tend to not take this step and usually just ignore the female babies. If it takes me hundreds of eggs and no male babies with correct mutations, then I may resort to a female.
So when you've bred a mutation do you then switch the females/male for that new 1/20 mutated offspring or keep breeding your regulars for other mutations then breed the mutated offspring with eachother?
you always want your females to have 0 mutations. If you get a mutated male baby in the stat you want just switch the male and breed it with the same females. If you get a female baby with the mutation you want, breed it with the male to get a new male with the mutation you want.
You always want your females to have no mutations....in the beginning. Only because 1 males can breed more multiple females at the same time. BUT, with the new system, once you have as many mutations as you want THEN you want to have a bunch of mutated females to breed to a max level, unmutated male to produce your boss fighters. That way you get the max level base stats combined with the mutated stats.
@kamar1171 interesting, im still breeding the ASE way. Any chance youd mind explaining that last step a little bit where you mentioned the new system please? Or point me towards a good video for it? 100s of hours in ark but ive never tackled a boss fight
The fact is there is no way to guarantee getting a mutation that you want. You can pump your numbers of breeders up and will pretty much always yield a mutation but more often than not it will be either in a stat you don’t want or it will be a mutation off the baseline. Meaning if you’re after melee and your current male has a melee of 500 and your clean line is at 250. You may see a melee mutation but it will be 260 and not 510 because it mutated the female stat. There is no way to guarantee in a single breed no matter how many females that you will pop your next mutation that you’re after. Stating anything else is a complete lie.
To each their own. I prefer to actually beat a game by my own accomplishments, and not someone else's. How boring games it must be if you just pay someone else to do all the work. Why bother even playing?@@donaldducks3916
this is ASA not ASE . some changes are in the game now. the starter one is mutations favour the highest stat. not garuntee but favor it. as for the female passing on her low stat with a mutation not the males its fine. you just rebreed that till you get a female again with that mutation and low stat and push it with the male you are more than likely to adapt the higher stat since that also is favoured for passing on. the mutation carrys over ontop of the new highstat then you rinse it clean with a clean female and away you go. asa breeding is very nice. never played ase personally but everything i gain and do from my asa breeding has evolved andys confused saying "but dis dinnned not work in dah evolved" basically this aint evolved also if you want to prep a blood line tame a lvl 15 of something and breed with your stud try to get offspring that fancies the desired stat it will be average of both lvls and tanked in other stats. you can use this to drown out stats you dont want. ASA breeding is busted and OP
Simultaneously, yes. Just means that it will only mate 4 at a time. Remember, the males have no cooldown. If you have 8 females, it will breed 4 of them, then do the other 4 immediately after.
there is no limit never has been in ASA. eclipse and teacher are spreading false info for what reason I DO not know that or they just confused by reality and think its a thing. who knows either way i have current at the EXACT SAME time with same percents and egg drops done over 30 argies at once, 6 gigas at once and 13 rexes at once and a basilo that had 7 ladies at same time.
First, have had more than 4 females actively breeding to one male at the same time. Second, with the new system the stats of both parents DO NOT need to be exactly the same. Since the mutations are no longer stacked onto the stat itself. Does it make it easier to see when you get a mutation, if both parents start out exactly the same? Of course. But, with the new breeding system, it no longer matters, AT ALL the base levels of the parents, in regards to breeding for mutations. Now, you can start breeding mutations with ANY dinos. THEN, as you are breeding your mutations you can go out actively hunting down the very best max level, unmutated, dino to breed to your mutated dinos at the end. Third, you can stack mutations beyond twenty, as long as one of the parents mutations never go over 20. So to say "as long as there is not more than 20" is incorrect. You can breed 1000 mutations, theoretically, as long as there is not more than 20 ON BOTH SIDES, MOTHER AND FATHER. Forth, for you to say that "statistically" you are GUARANTEED a mutation out of every 4 females is incorrect. I am breeding 14 females, wait until I've had over 300 eggs to hatch all at once and gotten MAYBE 10 mutations out of 300 eggs. It is misleading to say it this way. It is correct to say that EACH OFFSPRING has this percentage CHANCE of having a mutation. So, technically ALL of the offspring could have had a mutation. I HATE it when people say it that way. IRL snake breeders are SOOOO bad about that. I understand that you are breeding this way as examples, but I believe this information is misleading to new players.
Side note: My rexes do not have all exactly the same base stats and I am getting mutations faster on them than on my Theris. That I made a point of making them all with the same exact base stats.
Hard limit on mutations was 255 for stats in ASE. Don't know if they increased it or not. But I do know that it's not infinite. It's a signed 32-bit integer, so after about 2 billion mutations you reach -1 on the counter lmao. Again, I don't know if that was changed with ASA or not (not like anyone would ever reach 2 billion mutations anyway)
You tame a bunch of wild dinos, decide which stats you want mutations on and start breeding. Make sure the mutation is always on a male. Make sure the separate mutations are on separate males. Breed males to as many, unmutated, females as distance will allow. Once you get as many mutations, on each of stats, that you want you then combine mutations onto a single male and then breeding a bunch of females with those mutations. Once you have a bunch of females with those mutations you then breed those mutated females to a max level, unmutated male that you tamed. Their offspring will be your boss fighters.
In a nutshell, only keep males with your desired mutation. Once you have that male, swap it with the male you were previously using for breeding. Repeat this step and you can stack mutations indefinitely. Although, at a certain point your chance of getting a new mutation will go from 7% to 3.5%, which is ok because by that point you should have plenty of base level females. 19 females should do the trick because while it's at 7% you have a total chance of getting a single mutation roughly 75% of the time, and at 3.5% it only goes down to roughly 50%.
I've been breeding a long time and can tell you there is no guarantee. You can up your chances with more females but it is never 100%. Its still just 7% per individual dino and not additive. Having 4 females is not 30% chance its just more females with 7% chance.
So having over 20 mutations on a side reduces the chance of getting a mutation by 50%. Does that ALSO reduce the chance of the baby getting all of the mutations that the father has? lets say you managed to breed a male dino with 50 mutations. whats the chance the baby gets all 50 of those mutations with a female with zero mutations. this is something i havent seen anyone touch on or the wording is confusing because there are 2 potential things you could be referring to.(gaining a new mutation vs passing down existing mutations)
If you’re only breeding one stat per male you’re gonna be better off like 1 Rex you mutate for hp and one male you mutate for mele then combine into one Dino
It still doesn't matter if it's under or over 20. When breeding you really don't see a difference, because the chance is PER EACH INDIVIDUAL and not a total percentage chance. And even before you get to 20 it's still just luck of the draw. It's quite simple, don't worry about the percentage chance and breed as many females as possible, that your male can reach, at the same time. It's that simple. Even if you waste your time figuring out your CHANCES with math, it means nothing. Because you're either will or will not get a mutation. And with my 1000s of hours in the game, and millions of babies bred, you get more WITHOUT mutations that you do with them. It's always been that way.
Why does he leave videos like this up ? There's so much misinformation and flat out bad math here. This is the laziest / uninformed video on mutations i think ive ever said, please if you are trying to learn this game and how to breed, dont watch this video ! If you're new i recommend going to seashell gamings channel to watch her in depth process of how to get from 2 random dinosaurs to max mutations on both sides and takes it nice and slow so you have time to figure out exactly whats going on.
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This is not how statistical math works. Probability of at least one mutation = 1 - (1 - 0.07)^n. Where n = the number of females bred. Therefore, the 4 female horses actually equals a 0.25 probability IE 25%. 12 female horses (3 sets) ends up being 58%
So 48 for a 116% chance?
@@thedropbear574 You cannot get above 100% with the formula. 1 - (1 - 0.07)^48 = 0.969 = 97%
Thank you and well said. I was just about to write the same comment.
It should be intuitive to people that you cannot get above a 100% chance, and that like with rolling an imaginary 100 sided dice, even if you roll it 14 times, you are not “guaranteed” to roll a 1-7 for a mutation.
Teacher needs teaching.
Wow you're all so rude.
@@AussieDingoAzza I disagree. Correcting someone does not qualify as being rude.
GUARANTEE??? Maximizing chance is not the same as guarantee. There is no such thing as guaranteed mutation in Ark. And you know it. Stop clickbaiting hard, it's annoying.
i have never watched a video where im 100% sure they have no idea how breeding works before
Im a little worried about teachers math today. 😂
Your math is not correct. And it is never a guarantee just because you add more. 90% should never be just rounded up to 100%. Also. Did they add a cap to how many females can mate with a male? My set up in SAE was 1 male and 10-15 females. I will have to check this in ASA. One more thing. It is not pronounced "trow". The correct way to pronounce it is "troff".
You can’t add probabilities like that. You have to use binomial probability to get the actual chance. It will take about 30 babies for you to have a 90% chance to for at least 1 mutation
And btw “14 females to 1 male” which you said was guaranteed, is actually only 64% chance of mutation
30 Babies = 88.7% Chance however... to get a mutation in a stat you want... 30 babies with 6 stats now that can be mutated = 29.7% Chance. To get a 90% chance of mutation in the stat you want you need 196 females. and 648 dinos = a mutation in the stat you want every breed cycle like... 99.9% of the time.
32, to be precise. (based on the formula 1-(1-0.07)^n, where n is the number of females)
The only explanation I can think of for the 4 females to 1 male is that no matter how many females you breed with only 4 of them have the chance to mutate???
I am def going to test this out of official
Ill start with all tamed 0/0 dinos for the male and females so we can just stick with the 7% mutation chance
I will breed 25 groups of 4 females with a male
Take that same male and breed it with as many females as I can fit in breeding range. Lets say I can only reach 50 of the females at a time. Thats 2 seperate breed rounds to get 100 eggs
So if my theory is correct
The batch of 100 eggs from my 25 groups of 4 females, all 100 eggs will have a a 7% chance at mutating
My second batch of 100 eggs from my 2 groups of 50 females, only 8 of those eggs will have a 7% chance at a mutation
Idk if this is true in ASA or even in ASE but I have done a lot of breeding for mutations and we used over 100 females to breed with and that 7% or even 3.5% never seemed like I was really getting that. Statistically I should have had either 7 babies with mutations out of each hatch or 3 babies (ark never rounds up) if I was over the 20 mutation cap on 1 side. This was never the case. I would go weeks hatching 100's of eggs and get no mutations at all, not even on the stats I wasn't looking for mutations on.
I know the math does go a little deeper because its a 7% or 3.5% chance of a mutation BUT its a 1 in 6, or 5 depending on the dino, chance that the mutation will be on the stat you want it on, which makes the odds even lower for getting what you are looking for
The only reason I am going to test this is because I have gone 100's of eggs at a time with no mutations at all and I always tried the squeeze as many females as possible into the breed range so maybe what he says about only 4 females to 1 male has some merit
Maybe retitle the video? you can not guarantee a mutation. i thought ASA had something new
Sure it does: it seems we can only make them mate with 4 creatures at a time now? Talk abou QOL updates... 😅
You can breed a male to more than 4 females in Ascended.
Listening to this I was like wait what? Did that change lol. On ASE I was breeding 40+ desmodus with 1 male
Only 4 can progress at the same time unless it changed
@@TeachersGameToo It must have changed because I've been running a raptor gang bang for the last couple days with 8 females to 1 male all breeding at the same time. Seems like the limit is only based on how many females you can get within "breeding range" of the male.
I don't think its ever been only 4 females at a time. I mean I didnt start playing til The Center was the newest map but thats still a long time. The only limit is how many females you can fit in the breeding bubble.
Incorrect. My 14 rexes drop eggs all at the same time.@@TeachersGameToo
Im currently breeding with 57 rex females that i all let grow up in a small spot that i buildt where i can change up the male easy via ramp...idont know how you get to that 4:1 ratio, its just that some Creatures have a smaller mating radius than others
Anyway to see the stats without the tec binoculars?
Very good question!
unofficial via super spyglass mod which 99% of the servers will have
You have a chance on 7% 4 times. You do not have a 28% chance.
Its just a random 7% flip 4x
While his math was wrong, he wasn't too far off. 4 females will yield a probability of 25.195% that one of the 4 children will have a mutation.
"Lucky Guy* 😂
To call this video a guide is being extremely generous. There is a serious lack of information regarding breeding in this 'guide'. Hilariously incomplete. The item the character is holding is obtained by beating Alpha bosses. If you're beating Alpha bosses, you don't need this video.
1 to 4, is there any reason why not more than that?
Just keep the mutations on the male. And only switch males. You can never have the both sides at 20/20 this way.
In short, unlimited mutations?
@@nexus1g you van mutatie until you have 254 on a stat. If you go higher you can't level you're creatures anymore
@teach it’s 7% if they don’t have 20 but what if it’s 0/0 vs a 0/1? Have there been any tests
14 female gives at least one mutation at 65.4% chance, divided by all stats its like 9.3% for desired one. 30 female is perfect number and any higher wont do much different except drop frames
If true the 1 to 4 thing has to be new because back in ASE I had a male Megatherium surrounded by a dozen (or at the very least 8) females in Fjordur getting it on for mutation breeding.
It's not, he's incorrect. I'm currently breeding 14 rex females (can't do more in SP because of distance) and they will all lay eggs at exactly the same time.
in all honesty this guy has no fucken clue what hes saying
@@kamar1171if u drops females with a rhynio u can get way more females stacked around a male
@@kamar1171have you tried raising the clean breeder females on top of each other so they mesh in like you can do on Evolved? wonder if they stopped that.
hey teach! can you please bring a super dino with the best possible melee and health and show us the ancestral line? this way we can understand the milestones and get back to the videos where it's necessary. As a new player, I find it very difficult to understand the whole mutation process
go watch seashell gamings videos on mutation process, she will walk you through the basics up to mastery, this video is completely full of misinformation and will waste you tons of time. Good luck.
Wow i'm early !
Thanks for the tutorial, happy playing and happy teaching
So should i breed the same dinos till i get a mutation then swap that dino that has a mutaion out with one that doesnt?
You should breed 1 male to as many females as he can reach. I believe in single player it's approx. 2 foundations distance. I can get about 12 to 14 females close enough to my males that he will breed them all at once. You want to make sure that the mutations you are breeding for are on different males. Like a male for health mutations, a male for melee mutations, etc. So that while the health mutation is growing you can be breeding the melee mutation and so forth. You always bring the mutated offspring back to breed to your group of unmutated females.
Keep the initial females pure (no mutations). Once you create mutated males swap new ones in as you go, always using the same pure females.
Where’s the point video? He talks about it but doesn’t put anywhere 🙄 can someone help with the link please ?
I just started playing a few weeks ago.. ive been trying to breed rex's. I have about 28 babys that have come from breeding 1 male to 4 females. do i just have bad luck? ~update i now have over 35 with not 1 mutation
Thanks for the tips!
I breed 1 male to 8 females, 4 on each side. I love the video, I was just curious if you meant 4 dinos to one side of the male?
I was fixing to say the exact same thing
U have to breed with zero mutations females only or the mutation points go crazy.
They raise but u wont get any status up.
If a mutation comes in a female get it to a male and breed this male with zero mutations females again.
With the mutations only in the patrilineal side all the new ones that came from a mother will add to the status.
I'm confused about what to do with a mutated female. Do I dismiss it OR do I some how get her mutation into my male?
Lets say you have a breeding line of rexes. The base males and females - it's better and easier to have mutations on males because it takes considerably less time to breed them. Males can breed with as many females as it's possible at once. Females however can breed with only one male at a time.
Let's say you are doing the 20 melee mutations one after another. Melee 1 male with 1 melee mutation breeds with non-mutated base females. The next baby turns out to be a female. Her 2 melee mutations have to carry over to a male.. So now you have to raise her and breed her with your non-mutated base male. Now, you're looking for a male baby with the 2 melee mutations. I tend to not take this step and usually just ignore the female babies. If it takes me hundreds of eggs and no male babies with correct mutations, then I may resort to a female.
So when you've bred a mutation do you then switch the females/male for that new 1/20 mutated offspring or keep breeding your regulars for other mutations then breed the mutated offspring with eachother?
you always want your females to have 0 mutations. If you get a mutated male baby in the stat you want just switch the male and breed it with the same females.
If you get a female baby with the mutation you want, breed it with the male to get a new male with the mutation you want.
@@lokidoozer9116 exactly! 👍🏼
You always want your females to have no mutations....in the beginning. Only because 1 males can breed more multiple females at the same time. BUT, with the new system, once you have as many mutations as you want THEN you want to have a bunch of mutated females to breed to a max level, unmutated male to produce your boss fighters. That way you get the max level base stats combined with the mutated stats.
@kamar1171 interesting, im still breeding the ASE way. Any chance youd mind explaining that last step a little bit where you mentioned the new system please? Or point me towards a good video for it? 100s of hours in ark but ive never tackled a boss fight
I can’t get any mut at all no matter what I do!! Can’t figure it out
The fact is there is no way to guarantee getting a mutation that you want. You can pump your numbers of breeders up and will pretty much always yield a mutation but more often than not it will be either in a stat you don’t want or it will be a mutation off the baseline. Meaning if you’re after melee and your current male has a melee of 500 and your clean line is at 250. You may see a melee mutation but it will be 260 and not 510 because it mutated the female stat. There is no way to guarantee in a single breed no matter how many females that you will pop your next mutation that you’re after. Stating anything else is a complete lie.
Killed tens of thousands of dinos breeding 12 dino lines to max stats.
Never again. I will purchase the parents with Tek from now on and have a life.
To each their own. I prefer to actually beat a game by my own accomplishments, and not someone else's. How boring games it must be if you just pay someone else to do all the work. Why bother even playing?@@donaldducks3916
you can now breed in that melee mutation onto the 510 melee line though, if I'm not mistaken. That's the big change in ASA from ASE
this is ASA not ASE . some changes are in the game now. the starter one is mutations favour the highest stat. not garuntee but favor it. as for the female passing on her low stat with a mutation not the males its fine. you just rebreed that till you get a female again with that mutation and low stat and push it with the male you are more than likely to adapt the higher stat since that also is favoured for passing on. the mutation carrys over ontop of the new highstat then you rinse it clean with a clean female and away you go. asa breeding is very nice. never played ase personally but everything i gain and do from my asa breeding has evolved andys confused saying "but dis dinnned not work in dah evolved"
basically this aint evolved
also if you want to prep a blood line tame a lvl 15 of something and breed with your stud try to get offspring that fancies the desired stat it will be average of both lvls and tanked in other stats. you can use this to drown out stats you dont want. ASA breeding is busted and OP
Your wrong about how many can breed at once, I have 15 females and 1 male and he breeds with all of them at the same time
4 to 1? Huh, i have 9 female Rex around 1 male that all breed at once.
Wait so they've limited the amount of female tames that can breed with the male to 4?
No.
Guess the rumours about this youtuber putting out alot of false information was true. . .
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Simultaneously, yes. Just means that it will only mate 4 at a time. Remember, the males have no cooldown. If you have 8 females, it will breed 4 of them, then do the other 4 immediately after.
there is no limit never has been in ASA. eclipse and teacher are spreading false info for what reason I DO not know that or they just confused by reality and think its a thing. who knows either way i have current at the EXACT SAME time with same percents and egg drops done over 30 argies at once, 6 gigas at once and 13 rexes at once and a basilo that had 7 ladies at same time.
First, have had more than 4 females actively breeding to one male at the same time. Second, with the new system the stats of both parents DO NOT need to be exactly the same. Since the mutations are no longer stacked onto the stat itself. Does it make it easier to see when you get a mutation, if both parents start out exactly the same? Of course. But, with the new breeding system, it no longer matters, AT ALL the base levels of the parents, in regards to breeding for mutations. Now, you can start breeding mutations with ANY dinos. THEN, as you are breeding your mutations you can go out actively hunting down the very best max level, unmutated, dino to breed to your mutated dinos at the end. Third, you can stack mutations beyond twenty, as long as one of the parents mutations never go over 20. So to say "as long as there is not more than 20" is incorrect. You can breed 1000 mutations, theoretically, as long as there is not more than 20 ON BOTH SIDES, MOTHER AND FATHER. Forth, for you to say that "statistically" you are GUARANTEED a mutation out of every 4 females is incorrect. I am breeding 14 females, wait until I've had over 300 eggs to hatch all at once and gotten MAYBE 10 mutations out of 300 eggs. It is misleading to say it this way. It is correct to say that EACH OFFSPRING has this percentage CHANCE of having a mutation. So, technically ALL of the offspring could have had a mutation. I HATE it when people say it that way. IRL snake breeders are SOOOO bad about that. I understand that you are breeding this way as examples, but I believe this information is misleading to new players.
Side note: My rexes do not have all exactly the same base stats and I am getting mutations faster on them than on my Theris. That I made a point of making them all with the same exact base stats.
Hard limit on mutations was 255 for stats in ASE. Don't know if they increased it or not. But I do know that it's not infinite. It's a signed 32-bit integer, so after about 2 billion mutations you reach -1 on the counter lmao. Again, I don't know if that was changed with ASA or not (not like anyone would ever reach 2 billion mutations anyway)
How do you stack mutations to build god dinos?
He covered that in a recent video.
You tame a bunch of wild dinos, decide which stats you want mutations on and start breeding. Make sure the mutation is always on a male. Make sure the separate mutations are on separate males. Breed males to as many, unmutated, females as distance will allow. Once you get as many mutations, on each of stats, that you want you then combine mutations onto a single male and then breeding a bunch of females with those mutations. Once you have a bunch of females with those mutations you then breed those mutated females to a max level, unmutated male that you tamed. Their offspring will be your boss fighters.
In a nutshell, only keep males with your desired mutation. Once you have that male, swap it with the male you were previously using for breeding. Repeat this step and you can stack mutations indefinitely. Although, at a certain point your chance of getting a new mutation will go from 7% to 3.5%, which is ok because by that point you should have plenty of base level females. 19 females should do the trick because while it's at 7% you have a total chance of getting a single mutation roughly 75% of the time, and at 3.5% it only goes down to roughly 50%.
Thought other videos was in comments?
Wow, lotta numbers, lotta fudging, very confusing, not sure i understand...
I've been breeding a long time and can tell you there is no guarantee. You can up your chances with more females but it is never 100%. Its still just 7% per individual dino and not additive. Having 4 females is not 30% chance its just more females with 7% chance.
Bro. Mutations are not guaranteed. Maybe you should take a statistics class.
I just breed and get lucky enough to get one lol
first time ive been disappointed in one of your videos. all the info in this is wrong. sad day
So having over 20 mutations on a side reduces the chance of getting a mutation by 50%.
Does that ALSO reduce the chance of the baby getting all of the mutations that the father has?
lets say you managed to breed a male dino with 50 mutations. whats the chance the baby gets all 50 of those mutations with a female with zero mutations.
this is something i havent seen anyone touch on or the wording is confusing because there are 2 potential things you could be referring to.(gaining a new mutation vs passing down existing mutations)
It’s 50-50 if you get the stacked stat from the male or base stat from the female
55% chance to get All the mutations in one stat from the parent that has the better stat
If you’re only breeding one stat per male you’re gonna be better off like 1 Rex you mutate for hp and one male you mutate for mele then combine into one Dino
It still doesn't matter if it's under or over 20. When breeding you really don't see a difference, because the chance is PER EACH INDIVIDUAL and not a total percentage chance. And even before you get to 20 it's still just luck of the draw. It's quite simple, don't worry about the percentage chance and breed as many females as possible, that your male can reach, at the same time. It's that simple. Even if you waste your time figuring out your CHANCES with math, it means nothing. Because you're either will or will not get a mutation. And with my 1000s of hours in the game, and millions of babies bred, you get more WITHOUT mutations that you do with them. It's always been that way.
Correct. This is the fastest way to mutate each stat you want mutated.@@GNuttysGarage
Thanks teach. As always. A great video.
Man, you got that "simp" character model. Always sad to see it.
Not a good video on breeding.
To many things are wrong or have percentages round up
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You deserve so many more views and likes on your videos. The amount of effort and depth you put in is astounding and worth every second of watch time
your math is not mathing
Hahaha 4 to 1 max!? I have 8 argies around 1 male and 8 rexs around 1 male.
no thats not how probability works
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gamblers fallacy, the video? also stop cross breeding your stat lines
bro does not know how to pronounce matrilineal and patrilineal
Why does he leave videos like this up ? There's so much misinformation and flat out bad math here. This is the laziest / uninformed video on mutations i think ive ever said, please if you are trying to learn this game and how to breed, dont watch this video ! If you're new i recommend going to seashell gamings channel to watch her in depth process of how to get from 2 random dinosaurs to max mutations on both sides and takes it nice and slow so you have time to figure out exactly whats going on.