It really annoyed the shit out of me lol, it was so jarring. They literally burned people alive and they were screaming. They shot loud special guns. And they weren't even hiding. They just walked in.
@@doctor0827 yeah i thought it was a good villian, I just feel like th should have had it floating or flying instead of standing like patrick, but ither than that he was a pretty good villian
Fun fact: When James Gunn was trying to name The Suicide Squad he added the The as a joke and the Warner Bros executives loved it so much they made it the name!
@@Queef_StormYes that’s the point, Bloodsport took the advice of Peacemaker and made even smaller bullets. He’s says as much when he walks over to him "How?" "Smaller bullets."
This movie has some hilarious jokes. The team 1 chopper interactions are gold imo. "Your name, TDK. What does it stand for?" "What? Huh? It stands for me." "So your name is a bunch of letters." "All names are letters, dickhead."
@@KevinACarroll1996 Yes exactly. In the scene before that he even pleads to Rick to give up the drive and not force a fight, calling him Sir and even saying please. Just goes to show that even though he was a "bad guy" who only cared about peace, he still respected Rick and saw him as their Squad's leader.
@@remondalejar9249 Does Cosmonaut typically not do spoilers in his reviews? I could have sworn he did, but even so, what else did you think you would find in the comments besides people talking about the movie?? I’m sorry it was spoiled for you but idk if you can blame them for it
I really love how this movie finally gets what the mission for Suicide Squad should be, they’re not there to save the world and kill Starro, they’re just there doing government’s dirty work by covering up US government’s dirty secret in the past to avoid much more conflicts with outsiders and their own people, which lead to peacemaker and Flag’s disagreement which I thought is pretty damn compelling
Yeah when I think of Suicide Squad, I think of them storming a Russian base that is trying to bring back General Zod to disrupt America by killing Superman. Not.... as a contigency to kill superman incase he attacks the president.
The number of times this movie made me yell out variations on "Don't you DARE kill off Nanaue" is a testament to the genuinely real stakes of the film and the likeability of its (giant shark) characters.
When I thought Peacemaker was gonna kill Cleo, it made me worry about *_both_* of them when Peacemaker was clearly supposed to be the ‘bad/wrong’ one in the situation and THAT is good character writing.
I really liked how each character looked. We had some typical modern hero outfits like Bloodsports, moody, dark, future-military style. Then we have Peacemaker who's in bright shorts and just a damn shirt with a chrome helmet, and it works! Polka Dot, Ratcather 2, the Shark, and even Flag all looked great and unique.
This was so refreshing to see, I also read the costume designer talking about how collaborative the process was with Gunn, that it felt more like making a play bc how involved the different departments were with eachother
it for damn sure it is. I think just how likeable John Cena is also helped because he seems like an ok dude, albeit making people die for peace lmao so its a great juxtaposition and actually pretty scary once you really think about it. this invisible meatball of a human will take you out in one hit, glass chin or not.
My favorite moment was at the beginning when TDK started using his powers. I said “What the fuck?” My wife said “What the fuck?” And then, as if on queue, Harley said “What the fuck?” Pretty great
Now that you remind me of him, did we ever actually see him die? I remember them shooting his arms but I also remember during the opening credits where they show the government workers trading money, his picture is still lit up along with Harley’s.
This movie's biggest accomplishment was making me actually care about Rick Flag and his arc. I did not give a single crap about him in the first movie, and laughed at the infamous meme lines, but they completely inversed that in the sequel, and I loved it.
I have to agree. Rick Flag is not a character in the 2016 Suicide Squad. I was much more invested in his character in this one, and when Peacemaker plunged that shard into his heart I audibly yelped and realized that was it for Rick Flag… it was actually sad.
She also had a really cool sidekick named Katana. She got his back. She could cut you in half like mowing the lawn. He would advise not getting killed by her sword, it traps the sword of it's victims.
When everyone is in the club having fun while King Shark is sitting in the van alone trying to listen to the music coming from the club but gives up and he gets sad which then made me feel sad for him. Now that's a good movie.
dare i say but i actually liked him more than MCU's Groot which is weird considering Groot had more movies to develop himself as a character and King Shark was mostly just a walking joke. Something about the little moments when he was all alone or when he was so happy to find similar fish friends and they ended up trying to eat him
It’s honestly very surprising how a walking joke generated some of the most sympathy from me. I absolutely adored him and felt a stab to the heart harder than Flag did when I thought those fish were gonna kill him.
I’m getting so sick of hearing people say it was a failure, I know so many people who watched it on HBO Max over the weekend… no, it didn’t break box office records but who’s actually surprised? It’s a HARD R rated movie, and who’s going to go to a theater to watch something when you can watch it for free at home. It’s easily the best movie I’ve seen all year.
cant tell them any different tho, anyone who wanted this movie to fail or flat out didnt like it is using that as evidence the movie is trash doing the whole "hurr durr dc movie garbage" when movies like black widow are complete dookie despite making money. since when does a CB movie have to break records every single fucking time? it doesnt have to make a billion+ at box office either like its damn near cringe at this point
In my honest opinion the characters in this movie seems more fleshed out except of the human villains, they weren't really as interesting except for the mad scientist and more specifically Starro because of how its got basically kidnapped, experimented for years and was blinded by rage and then when it died it kinda broke my heart a little when it said "I was happy.. floating in space.. staring at the stars.."
Polkadot man honestly stole the show for me, everything about his character was just perfect. His comedic timing, his backstory, his acting, just so good
One of my favorite DC characters now, I'm more of a fan of obscure and unique characters rather then the same characters they always put to the forefront all the time. they should do more with this iteration of him.
*SPOILERS* I KNOW that's why I'm so sad he died at the end, he JUST became a superhero and he got fucking smushed. I feel like it's for shock value + killing him bc he was OP + his arc was kinda finished, but I honestly wish he lived bc he was so lovable :'(
@@mochafrappawhat YES ABSOLUTELY. his death was totally unnecessary and, although probably not intentional, feels apart of the "bury your gays" trope :(( i really loved his character and i hope they somehow bring him back in the sequel/spin off
I love how Gunn utilized Cena perfectly, showcasing his wit and charm and freakishly impossible strength, while hiding the weird tough guy face he does while acting. John, you're the toughest guy in the world, you don't need to do a fake tough guy stance.
Americans will never understand how special it was to me, a portuguese, to see my home town (Porto) in one of the biggest movies of the year. Our portuguese actress (ratcatcher2) stole the show as well.
The cinematography in this film really stuck out to me (especially compared to a lot of other superhero films). The title cards/“Chapters”, the opening shot of Savant’s reflection in the puddle, the fight scene reflected on Peacemaker’s helmet. Overall, this film was really solid all the way through.
“This is Katana, she’s got my back! She could cut you down with one sword stroke just like mowing the lawn. I would advise not getting killed by her; her sword traps the souls of its victims.” - Rick Flagg
i really liked how they didn’t try cheap and emotionally manipulative bs to try and make characters that are supposed to be unlikable, more relatable and sympathetic. also the bait and the switch in the first team scene was really effective
@@man_the_nere dont get it wrong, i loved that show, and i love marvel, but from that timeline, Loki just commited mass murder on Avenger movie, and suddenly became a good guy bc he watched his fate
One thing I think you passed over that made this movie so great was its friendships. The team you go along with grow together and bond in their own ways which is awesome but explicitly the fact that Harley and Rick totally coulda had some shitty shoe horned romance and you could see it coming from a mile away but no. They were just true friends, and same for Rat Catcher and Bloodsports friendship just being so pure. I think it really helped make this such a great team and connect to the audience.
Don't forget the trio Peacemaker, Bloodsport, and Flag. They had some pretty good chemistry that it made me genuinely upset in the end when they were forced to fight each other
It's hard to re-watch the party scene because you can see that Peacemaker totally had fun with the squad. Ratcatcher thanking him for asking a beer for Sebastian highly contrasts him pointing a gun at her.
There’s also a line flag has at the bar where he says “this could be the last drink of our lives” or something along those lines. Didn’t mean much the first time but on rewatch realizing that flag was the one who says it hits different
It was clear to me that when he was pointing gun at her, it was hard for him, but he stood by his twisted moral code. Honestly, really good performance by John Cena
He also really didn't want to kill Flag either. He was broken by that decision but for him, his country is more important. He said so himself. "I'll kill any man, woman, and child to keep it"
Yeah I think that’s the point he thinks that if he breaks his moral code once he won’t achieve his goal and that’s really the aspect I’m interested in for the spin-off
@@idiotwithanopinion8082 _"I cherish peace with all my heart. I don’t care how many men, women, and children I need to kill to get it."_ Yeah... At first, that line just seems like a funny line. Then we get to the end, and it suddenly has weight.
Starro's last line got me in tears. Just that line. That one passing line the henchman said before slowly panning to a giant alien starfish doing puppy eyes. Damn you James Gunn
That henchman was the general of the Corto Maltesian armed forces. When he saw that all was lost, he didn't bitch out but decided to die with his men. Pretty dignified death for a minor villain!
Starro was a victim too. They didn’t come to Earth with plans to invade, they were captured and tortured for 30 years by the US government. I’d be a bit pissed off too after that.
This movie actually made me really like Joel Kinnaman's Rick Flagg, a character that I found dull as dirt in the first film. For that accomplishment alone, it gets several additional points in my book.
DC realizing having your director do whatever they want over a boardroom of executives that don't understand the characters is a top tier character arch
It's fun when it pays off but there are a lotta talented directors you don't wanna give full creative control lol Zach Snyder, George Lucas, TIm Burton
Harley was just great in this movie! Her escape scene was also hysterical and just awesome... I think I might have fallen for her at that exact moment 😂
@@wilsonjonah She's so fun in Birds of Prey and even is good in the OG SQ. We're so lucky to have Robbie as just the PERFECT Quinn. It's like BTAS wrote it with her in mind when she was, like, 3 lol
I like how Bloodsport is basically a discount Deadshot but in this film, Deadshot became a discount Bloodsport Look at the scenes of their daughters confronting them. Compare this: “Mama says I can’t live with you because you kill people.” “Das not true das a lie” To them screaming at each other through telephones. That whole scene has better acting and writing than the entire 2016 film Edit: wow that’s a lot of thumbs
@@nervousbreakdown711 for sure. Will smith is a good actor and in my opinion was one of three good casting choices from the first. Harley abs Amanda Waller are the other two. If they had given will a good movie and a good script, he coulda been one of the greats
I loved that scene with Deadshot and his daughter and NO ONE mentions it. He really is a shit father, but he loves her. It's not the trope of "oh, if only the system wouldn't have failed Deadshot, he'd have been a good Daddy!"
the music for harley's escape scene being about how she has to save herself because no one cares about her, then immediately after walking in on the squad's rescue plan? love it.
Before BvS came out I had a conversation with some non comic fans about how Suicide Squad had the potential to be this much more interesting, wacky kind of movie that had a lot of potential. The series is known for just killing off random C-list characters on a whim, so I thought it could bring out some really odd characters and be just more indiscriminately violent than the Snyder series. This was the movie I was telling those people about. 5 years later it actually came out.
@@unhelpfulrevelations7989 no it wasn't. A Snyder version of this would have some weird shit about how the world NEEDS morally grey murderer to kill people on behalf of the government and it would never have a plot point about the US doing something wrong.
Sebastian was the best character. Man had the squads back and just wanted to be accepted and pulls through with an army of rat homies. Also he's a rat, enough said.
@@sirbooba4641 The second I saw Bloodsport shoot him like 5 times and he was completely fine, I knew he wouldn’t die, simply because he _couldn’t._ King Shark is like the Hulk on steroids.
For me, the humor served less as to be laugh-out-loud hilarious and more to endear you to the characters more. It keeps a consistent levity to the scenes that’s really charming, while still feeling sincere. It’s not like the movie doesn’t take itself seriously, it’s that it’s just acknowledging that fact that these characters combined this premise is kinda inherently silly. That level of self-awareness keeps the characters grounded and helps the more heartfelt moments feel genuine. That’s how it was for me, anyways. Edit: although some parts were just legit fucking hilarious. Idris Elba’s delivery of, “Why the fuck are you in your underwear?” will always get me
@@lb2kxx yea the very last shot in the movie sort of reminded me of Guardians 2. Rocket shedding tear. Both endings paid off big time. Now a James Gunn staple.
I want to add on to the discussion on how the licensed music adds so much to this movie. The scene where Harley escapes from the Corto Maltese prison with the Louis Primo song fits so well, but in a way that's not readily apparent. The song is about a gigolo (man supported by a wealthy woman, an extension of her) realizing that his life is ultimately worthless because there is no one out there that truly cares about him. It fits Harley because she was always an extension of the Joker, and without that, and with her essentially abandoning her humanity, she knows deep down she's going to die alone. The scene with her hugging Rick Flag after she realizes that he was trying to orchestrate her rescue works so well afterwards because even in her state of nihilistic giddiness, she sees someone who cares about her well being. And the song is jovial in its cynicism, like Harley is in the face of all the horror around her. Also that song is a fucking ditty and it's stuck in my head.
I was in the cinema and some guys behind me laugh about everything, I honestly believe they were high. They made the movie 100% better with that contagious laughter.
That same thing happened to me in Black Widow but that movie wasn’t even that funny so it just became annoying when anytime anybody said ANYTHING the person behind me laughed.
I think what makes James Gunn's usage of licensed music work is that he mostly picks songs that are either obscure or at the very least not super well-known. He doesn't just grab random top 20 hits or songs by mega-famous musicians and drops them in randomly like the original Suicide Squad movie did.
Also the songs kinda actually feel connected to the characters. The gigolo song really hit me for Harley because she just killed the man she thought she would be with; but then he turned out to be just like Joker.
Honestly I found the "stealth" scene very funny. Them killing a bunch of people very loudly, then them walking 2 feet to 2 unsuspecting guards. At least on my first watch through, I thought this was very intentional and poking fun at stealth scenes in movies and videos games. I could be wrong but I def laughed at it
I think it's intentional but it still got me a bit out of the movie. The whole thing is incredibly funny so I still loved that scene but the stealth part in particular was more weird than funny to me.
Definitely some pacing issues, the Harley Quinn princess storyline felt weirdly out of place and the runtime could’ve been cut but otherwise this is by far the most entertaining DCEU movie thus far. Interesting that it took a director from Marvel to make a competent and well-crafted DC movie.
I agree it was pretty out of place, but I think it was the best scene in the movie IMO. That ending felt like it completed her birds of prey character arc
I thought it was a neat subversion though. At first I was like: "okay, 100% this is a dream sequence, I mean this is Harley Quinn." I kept expecting her to wake up and still be in that hole in the ground, but when that never came, I was baffled. I also loved that moment where she pretended to be knocked out and then opened her eyes. 10/10 best moment in the movie for me.
@@m.s.5370 -- If a sequence in a movie feels like a dream and it's not then the movie is doing something wrong. I never thought John McClane's descent into the vents was a dream but rather central to his journey. Again, The Suicide Squad was good but it just felt like James Gunn had no idea what to do with Harley Quinn so he just made up some weird story where she was famous (or infamous) therefore she should immediately marry some rich politician. Still better than almost everything DC's turned out so far.
@@incredibilistic That does check out. I've heard rumors that Gunn was given clearance to kill off literally any and every character he wanted to- except for Harley Quinn. Still though, I very much enjoyed her, which I guess can be credited to Margot Robbie's acting.
This movie was amazing. It's refreshing to see that a movie where the main selling point is:"Let's see who makes it to the end", and they still took enough time to make us get invested in such an off the wall cast of characters. I really hope that people support this movie as much as they can, it is truly a fantastic that is getting screwed over in such an undeserving way.
John Cena's performance is fantastic. It was so surprising for me to see Peacemaker actually have a character arc and Cena pulling it off flawlessly. And King Shark saying "Fake moustache!" makes me laugh out loud every time I think about it.
They could have easily avoided detonating the explosives if they just let a climbing expert put them on all floors himself, like some sort of man who can climb anything.
Idris had the most accurate British writing I've ever seen. I fell in love with Bloodsport as soon as he started talking to his daughter and they both just start screaming at each other with a pointless, weak argument. It's so human and real. They worked his dialogue so well for the whole movie. King Shark absolutely steals the show for me, I love the version of him in the animated Harley Quinn and I love this childlike happy version here. He and Ratcatcher 2 are the soul of this movie
I want to take a moment to shoutout the fight between Rick Flag and PM. One thing I absolutely loved about their fight was that it was clearly a fight to the death, and as a viewer I had no idea who was going to win (I didn’t know about the Peacemaker show). It was real tension in a superhero movie bc there was no guarantee that the good guy was going to make it. Pretty rare for a superhero movie and I commend it.
During the fight I honestly expected PM to die and the tv show would be a prequel that possibly ended with him getting arrested. End took me way off guard
It was such an awesome experience. I remember exactly when it hit me that I had no idea who was going to win, even knowing about the Peacemaker show. It was so refreshing.
@@DonkeyBoyVids I just read an article where James Gunn said the show will be Both a prequel AND a sequel. So my guess is it will be set after the movie but have moments set before possibly doing his origin and him getting arrested
For the love of God, I hope DC takes this as a win despite the box office numbers. It's actually good! Not a movie you have to pretend was tolerable compared to the rest.
i mean it's obvious to anyone that this movie is very well appreciated with just a 5 min web search but this is WB so i kinda have to assume they usually speak the language of money
@@zacharyjackson1829 The ratings probably played a part. Also, BW is part of the MCU while TSS is a sequel to one of the worst superhero movies ever. But I do agree, this movie is far superior.
@Spade Considering SS has arguably the worst editing for a modern blockbuster movie and BoP having a series of skits disguised as a plot, I don't know how you could say that.
I hadn't thought about how this movie is basically structured like one big comic arc, with each title card being a new issue. That changes how I think about this movie entirely. The movie felt like a love letter to the comics, and this just solidifies that feeling. It makes me think of that behind the scenes teaser from last year where Idris Elba was like "It's like a massive graphic novel come to life." or something. People say that all the time about whatever movie they're promoting, and usually when they do I roll my eyes. But my man really wasn't lying. That is exactly what it feels like.
Yeah especially having the original writer of the 1987 Suicide Squad series John Ostrander cameo in the film as a doctor implanting neck bombs. It really does feel like another arc of comics from that era.
i kinda want the character internal monologue to be brought into the movies. every comic has text bubbles of the character talking in their heads and ik that wont translate easily to a movie to have someone constantly talking but i feel like it could work for a Batman movie since theyre going more noir, like lean into the detective monologuing about the case as they go about solving it
I loved everything about this movie, including the pacing and all the jokes. It's also one of the prettiest action movies I've ever seen, really feels like you're reading a brilliantly illustrated graphic novel.
If DC movies just had no consistent tone and were basically "let's just give this director this property and let them do whatever" I'd be so down for that
It obviously depends on the director/writer. For example, I'm 100% sure The Batman will be amazing, but I'm a bit worried about The Flash and Black Adam.
That last point encapsulated this movie and DC's recent success perfectly. Their (arguably) best releases so far haven't been superhero movies. They've been supervillain movies. DC makes really good villians. DC has always had that strength over Marvel, if you ask me. Even Starro the comically large, starfish shaped alien (as goofy as it is) got some character rounding through its slightly shoehorned final line and Peter Capaldi's acting job as a chaotic neutral mad scientist. Tl;dr Batfleck was a mistake and DC needs to lean into their Rogue's Gallery a lot harder
@@nilsar4357 I guess if that's really how you feel about it. Personally I was pretty genuinely excited for him to play the part, but I thought he did a piss poor job with both Batman and Bruce Wayne. I'll take Polka Dot Man over that bullshit every day of the week.
@@mogo5055 "Piss poor job with both Batman and Bruce Wayne". That's the opposite of what he did so far 😂. No denying Polka Dot man is interesting but he's no Batman. Gunn killed off Polka Dot man too cheaply.
@@nilsar4357 again, you're welcome to that opinion. I just don't agree. To me it's just a really shallow and disinteresting rendition of the character. Especially considering the source material he and Snyder are supposed to be pulling from. King Shark got more character development. Hell, El Diablo from the first Suicide Squad got more development. Maybe it isn't Affleck's fault. Maybe the scripts suck and Snyder is a boring director. Maybe it's all of the above. I just know I don't like it, but more power to you if you do.
Affleck was a perfect casting for batman, Snyder just wrote batman rather poorly plus DC has just as good if not better superheroes than marvel, u gotta read more comics, if they play their cards right they'd make a s**t load of money. But hack Snyder and WB ruined the dceu. Yes Zach doesn't understand dc's characters.
This movie surprised me on how it made me care about the characters, who knew that one of my new favorite DC character is now the daughter of a C- tier batman villain Rat-catcher. Shame this didn't do well in the box office
This movie feels like the film James Gunn has been building his career to making, it combines the oddball/outcasts dynamic and the humour therein with the gore and themes from his previous efforts Super and Slither. I'm really looking forward to future DC movies if they continue to just focus on being good and having little to no executive interference as this film did!
@@jjackson6082 The graphic moments of violence often played for laughs reminded me of slither, as did almost everything to do with Starro and the 'Zombies' at the end.
I love how they made Starro a big horror type of villian, than preceded to show a shot of all of him standing over the rumbled jotunheim, and he looked so wacky and they really pulled into that with the title card of the final battle. They really made starro a great character even with his final words being kinda heartbreaking
I love that, since Idris was clearly brought on initially to flat out recast for Deadshot - the first scene of Bloodsport with his Daughter really solidifies that they're the same concept, different execution And I loved that instead of going back to jail our Squad got to go free because they did a Terrible Thing by blackmailing Waller
no they did not bring bloodsport to flat-out recast deadshot, the early script includes both deadshot & deathstroke but because they weren't able to they gave Gunn the opportunity to use whatever character he wanted to use (bloodsport & peacemaker). So he's basically a replacement not a "recast" because the door is still open for will if he ever wanted to come back as deadshot in the future
@@twuxeu8770 I can't recall where I read it but what I meant specifically was initially Idris Elba was meant to be a recast before they chose to keep the door open for Smith's Deadshot
@@twuxeu8770 That was not Gunn's script. Gunn wanted Deadshot, but had to replace Will Smith with Idris Elba, because Smith had not the time for the movie. So they took Elba but also replaced Deadshot with Bloodsport, so Will Smith could take the role again in a future movie. Probably changed the role here and there a tiny bit but I could totally see Deadshot instead of Bloodsport in the movie. (But Elba nailed it, so the movie is perfect as it is)
Remember that they also release it simultaneous in HBO Max, so the box office numbers gonna be all over the place, contrary to Disney+ were you have to play some extra charge to watch the movie.
I was surprised by how much I cared about the characters by the end of the film. James Gunn simply did a fantastic job at making us care about some weirdos and somehow Rick Flag
He made us care about everyone and perfectly wrote them and decided how the story would go. Harley with her psycho yet innocent attitude and savage choices. Rick Flag with his leadership and love for his country. King Shark for his surprisingly innocent behavior, innocently idiotic behavior, and wanting love and friends. Bloodsport for his care and leadership. Ratcatcher for her sweetness and Sebastian. Polka Dot Mans hard to explain but him too. James Gunn did perfect
@@fatefps. I liked how we can see polka dot man develop over the course of the movie. He starts off timid and depressed, he gets to unwind more when they were partying undercover, he develops a bond with Milton, becomes more assertive and efficient with his polka dots by the third act culminating in an (almost) satisfying end to his arc.
The best part of this movie is that you simply have to watch the full picture when you watch it. You can’t just turn on scenes out of context when every scene is either so crucial or so fun.
So true. I was texting someone while i watched the movie and my whole attention wasnt on the movie and i got a bit lost. It was still good though but i was confused for like half the movie.
It's a genuinely refreshing thing that this movie is very good. When you actually try and let good artists make good art, then this is the kinda thing you get from it.
So, they're trading the first characters from First Suicide Squad movie with better characters in this sequel /stand alone movie: Killer Croc - King Shark El Diablo - Peacemaker Deadshot - Bloodsport Slipknot - Polkadot Man Katana - Ratcatcher 2 Meanwhile, both of Harley and Boomerang are still the same while Rick Flag gets a better character development from a generic boring military guy in first movie to be a responsible leader who can now crack a joke
@@deanfernandes7604 If you remember in the first SS movie, Slipknot is the first member of the team who died while in TSS, Polkadot-Man is the last member of the team who died. Both of these characters are just there for some reason and have useless ability but Polkadot-Man gets better character development than Slipknot whose only had 5 minutes of screen times.
Honestly after watching guardians 1 and 2 and then seeing the trailer for the suicide squad, I knew the reboot was gonna be good. James Gunn has honestly earned my trust in his films. He can write and direct. He's honestly perfected his craft. What he does in a two hour movie, other tv shows rarely even do in two seasons. The characters are relatable despite their "super hero" status. I'm interested in the story. Each scene is art in motion. So at this point I'm not surprised it's good. Honestly.
@@NhemLee honestly, James Gunn should really do R rated films. Not saying he should stop films like Guardians but the suicide squad showed us that James Gunn knows how to do gore as well comedy.
dc movies have been making a comeback, and I think the reason for this is that warner bros have finally understood that limiting directors' and writers' creativity is a bad thing.
And that they need to stop chasing Marvel and do it their own way. They can’t be like marvel anyways, marvel is the way it is because of what they created and set up for the last decade, DC doesn’t have that so why bother try to be what it’s not and just be what it is.
But unfortunately mainstream audience doesn't care about DCEU now because of their past polarizing movies This movie was great but it was a box office bomb and last 2 dceu movies (WW84 & BOP) were also flop
Well they give freedom for Man of Steel and the reactions were divise as fuck. The snyder cut honestly doesn't change the past mess. We the right directors for the right characters,especially for Superman
@@abh7529 Only reason for its bomb is because it was also released on hbo max for users. There was only a 4 million difference betweeen what was expected
This movie bombed because, 1. It's ina pandemic and it's rated R, 2 released in HBO, 3 maybe cus of the first suicide squad but mainly the first 2 i belief
This movie was amazing! In my country, they just opened cinemas, and this was such a refreshing way to go back to the movies. I'm now recommending it to my friends so I have a good excuse to go watch it again.
It's strange looking back because this movie really did break the DC mold for a bit and then Shazam 2 and Black Adam happened and then the DCUE literally collapsed
Something that marks this film as great for me is how, even when I didn't laugh at the humor all the time, it didn't make me roll my eyes or take away from my enjoyment. I could always see where the film was going, and I don't mean that in a predictable manner, I just mean, 'oh, I can see what gunn is trying to do here'. While I didn't feel much of a gut punch when a character would die on screen, honestly, I think this sets a great standard for sequels. Because being from a prior film no longer guarantees safety. Also, loved the Taika Watiti cameo.
I really loved how the movie just rolled with the inherent ridiculousness of the story, yet still managed to create some genuinely emotional moments. Kudos for the creators of this movie, an for Warner Brothers to let them do what they do. On a personal note: Polka Dot Man's facial outgrowths? Yukkkk!!! Instinctive shivers of disgust when I saw that.
You know how this movie is good? Almost every comment is a praise to a different character or scene. That means so many this movie's roster was sufficiently fleshed out to be loved by the audience.
Yes, absolutely this. My fav was Ratcatcher 2, but each time I see someone praising Polkadot man, King Shark, Peacemaker, Flag or Bloodsport I'm happy because they did such a great job at fleshing out each character.
I went to see this with my friends, and we described the movie to everyone that asked as a collective drug trip. This movie was so good man the sequence of Harley busting off the place she was being held was so freaking good I loved every second.
James Gunn understand comic books way more than we thought. Rather than changing them to make more edgy or adult, he embrace the surreal, dumb, over the tope and colour aspects of it while still telling a mature story.
Edris Elba’s performance was, IMO, his most enjoyable performance. He’s very entertaining and I’d rather see him return than Will Smith as Deadshot. (I haven’t seen every Idris film ever) Edit: I want to see more of Ratcatcher and Bloodsport. A really nice dynamic)
Y’all need to watch The Wire. Without a doubt, that is his most captivating and best performance. I don’t think he’ll ever top the acting he did for The Wire. You’ll forget he’s a British dude within one scene.
Luther is also very god, but his acting in that is a over the top, but then again his character is also over the top, so I think that is his best performance
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 Yes, I can see Will Smith nailing the charmant and snirky Deadshot. He plays two roles: Funny Smith and Sad Smith. They took the wrong Will Smith.
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I think the camp scene being so obviously not stealthy, yet they remain completely undetected is hilarious
can't be found if there's no one left to find you
No one can notice
If there's no one to notice 😈
It really annoyed the shit out of me lol, it was so jarring. They literally burned people alive and they were screaming. They shot loud special guns. And they weren't even hiding. They just walked in.
@@mohawkmeteor7189 that's the point
It was stupid but John Cena and Idris Elba having a dick measuring contest was too enjoyable to care
James Gunn is the only person that could get me emotionally attached to a giant shark-man, a vest wearing rat, and a guy named Polka Dot man.
Right, and he made me care about a hyper intelligent raccoon and a sentient tree that can only say 5 words
@@jothebro6334 Exactly.
I have to think he looks for the most fucking stupid characters and tries to make them good as some sort of drunk bet
@@Turt3752 and it works man he a talking raccoon and a fucking tree household names, and I'm okay with it cause they're awesome
I don't remember the last time I wanted a character to survive as much as with Polka Dot Man. That poor bastard :(
Starros last line was more emotionally impactful than I thought it would be
Aww, now I’m sad
I agree I feel like it would’ve a bit more impactful if it did Ratcatcher 2 feeling sympathy for him
honestly. Staro wasnt bad. if I was just chilling in space and then got tortured for like 20 years I would want to burn the earth too
@@doctor0827 I thought it was 30
@@doctor0827 yeah i thought it was a good villian, I just feel like th should have had it floating or flying instead of standing like patrick, but ither than that he was a pretty good villian
"She traps the souls of her victims in her sword" ❌
Giving a proper backstory to your character ✔️
He’s killed 27 kids ✔️
Can't swim ✔️
A weasel, not a werewolf ✔
My only question is where’s Katana? She’s got my back. I’d be advised not getting killed by her. Her sword traps the souls of its victims
Too busy kicking supervillain nazis to death
She cut you half with one slice. Like mowing the lawn
She can cut all y’all with one sword stroke just like mowing the lawn
tHiS iS kAtAna
She missed the flight this time
Fun fact: When James Gunn was trying to name The Suicide Squad he added the The as a joke and the Warner Bros executives loved it so much they made it the name!
Yeah I think it was a reference to fast and furious
I honestly don’t like it lol I feel like it’s gonna get confused too heavily with the original in 10 years time
You mean THE fast and THE furious
So thats it? What, we some kinda The Suicide Squad?
@@littledude6669 it’s not.
The “my bullets are smaller line” is singlehandedly the best foreshadowing and the funniest line ever
Even though Peacemaker ends up being shown to use larger bullets than Bloodsport?
@@Queef_Storm Yeap! Even then
@@Queef_Storm I always took it as Bloodsport took that knowledge and asked for smaller bullets than Peacemaker
@@Queef_StormYes that’s the point, Bloodsport took the advice of Peacemaker and made even smaller bullets. He’s says as much when he walks over to him
"How?"
"Smaller bullets."
This movie has some hilarious jokes. The team 1 chopper interactions are gold imo.
"Your name, TDK. What does it stand for?"
"What? Huh? It stands for me."
"So your name is a bunch of letters."
"All names are letters, dickhead."
Would have loved the second team react to TDK
I just laughed so much when TDK's arms where being shot and he was just hurting on the floor hahaha
I loved that part lmao
TDK is alive dont worry .gunn confirmed it 😍
I thought its the dark knight lol
One of the saddest and most emotional scenes is when peacemaker kills Rick flag for trying to do the right thing. “Peacemaker, what a joke.”
I love that they made Peacemaker look upset by it too. Instead of making him a complete dick, he had a bit of humanity and felt bad for killing Rick.
@@KevinACarroll1996 I loved that too! He clearly had a ton of respect for Flag and was pained at doing what he “had to.” Was a great character moment
@@KevinACarroll1996 Yes exactly. In the scene before that he even pleads to Rick to give up the drive and not force a fight, calling him Sir and even saying please. Just goes to show that even though he was a "bad guy" who only cared about peace, he still respected Rick and saw him as their Squad's leader.
Spoilers much?
@@remondalejar9249 Does Cosmonaut typically not do spoilers in his reviews? I could have sworn he did, but even so, what else did you think you would find in the comments besides people talking about the movie?? I’m sorry it was spoiled for you but idk if you can blame them for it
I really love how this movie finally gets what the mission for Suicide Squad should be, they’re not there to save the world and kill Starro, they’re just there doing government’s dirty work by covering up US government’s dirty secret in the past to avoid much more conflicts with outsiders and their own people, which lead to peacemaker and Flag’s disagreement which I thought is pretty damn compelling
Man, DC could be this rated-R alternate to Marvel, while also giving the directors and crew room and time to create. I really like that idea actually.
@@saturatedcranium while marvel is continuing phase 4, I hope dc can also get better, both fans deserve the best
@jarrhed You guys should definitely go watch DCs Doom Patrol live action show then. Weird, violent and deep
@@upsetstudios1819 yeah I heard it’s pretty great
Yeah when I think of Suicide Squad, I think of them storming a Russian base that is trying to bring back General Zod to disrupt America by killing Superman. Not.... as a contigency to kill superman incase he attacks the president.
The number of times this movie made me yell out variations on "Don't you DARE kill off Nanaue" is a testament to the genuinely real stakes of the film and the likeability of its (giant shark) characters.
When I thought Peacemaker was gonna kill Cleo, it made me worry about *_both_* of them when Peacemaker was clearly supposed to be the ‘bad/wrong’ one in the situation and THAT is good character writing.
If anything, Nanaue should be dead from how many fake outs they did to my boy. Sharkman just won’t die and i’m glad he made it
dude i was ONLY concerned about the safety of Nanaue - I'd be like, no that's great, but wheres the fucking shark
lmao, everytime he is about to die i always mumble "but they said he was the strongest" and then he never died, so yeah good thing.
dis num num
I really liked how each character looked. We had some typical modern hero outfits like Bloodsports, moody, dark, future-military style. Then we have Peacemaker who's in bright shorts and just a damn shirt with a chrome helmet, and it works! Polka Dot, Ratcather 2, the Shark, and even Flag all looked great and unique.
I agree, I really like how their costumes contrast the same way their personalities do
This was so refreshing to see, I also read the costume designer talking about how collaborative the process was with Gunn, that it felt more like making a play bc how involved the different departments were with eachother
I think Bloodsport already had this look in the comics.
@@suddenllybah he originally had a jungle predator/Rambo design feel
@@HUNTR11
looking it up.
yeah, he has the look in the comics, but only recently.
I think Peacemaker might just be John Cena's best performance to date.
I highly agree
it for damn sure it is. I think just how likeable John Cena is also helped because he seems like an ok dude, albeit making people die for peace lmao so its a great juxtaposition and actually pretty scary once you really think about it. this invisible meatball of a human will take you out in one hit, glass chin or not.
You never watched Fred 3 : Camp Fred?
Easily his best performance ever
jk
@@TheMikey2207 they just don't understand
Well hes dog shit in everything else so yeah its probably his best.
My favorite moment was at the beginning when TDK started using his powers. I said “What the fuck?” My wife said “What the fuck?” And then, as if on queue, Harley said “What the fuck?” Pretty great
thats pretty gold.
Perfect Sync
That scene was fucking funny lmao
Now that you remind me of him, did we ever actually see him die? I remember them shooting his arms but I also remember during the opening credits where they show the government workers trading money, his picture is still lit up along with Harley’s.
"Your name is just a bunch of letters?"
"All names are letters, dickhead."
I’m surprised you didn’t say anything about Rat Catcher 2. She was my favorite character and truly stole the show as the emotional heart of the group.
So true one of the best parts of the film
The movie did such a good job at the beginning, establishing that anyone can die, that I was *really* worried for her all the way to end.
I made it 666 likes
John Cena played the transition between goofy comic relief to deranged psychopath perfectly, really shocked by how good he was in this movie.
This movie's biggest accomplishment was making me actually care about Rick Flag and his arc. I did not give a single crap about him in the first movie, and laughed at the infamous meme lines, but they completely inversed that in the sequel, and I loved it.
I have to agree. Rick Flag is not a character in the 2016 Suicide Squad. I was much more invested in his character in this one, and when Peacemaker plunged that shard into his heart I audibly yelped and realized that was it for Rick Flag… it was actually sad.
She also had a really cool sidekick named Katana. She got his back. She could cut you in half like mowing the lawn. He would advise not getting killed by her sword, it traps the sword of it's victims.
Rick Flag was in the first one?
Peacemaker was such a well written piece of shit. The fight scene between him and Flagg was really well done as well, especially the ending.
He went from having the most laughable dialogue in the first movie to having maybe the best line in this one. What a glow up.
When everyone is in the club having fun while King Shark is sitting in the van alone trying to listen to the music coming from the club but gives up and he gets sad which then made me feel sad for him. Now that's a good movie.
dare i say but i actually liked him more than MCU's Groot which is weird considering Groot had more movies to develop himself as a character and King Shark was mostly just a walking joke. Something about the little moments when he was all alone or when he was so happy to find similar fish friends and they ended up trying to eat him
It’s honestly very surprising how a walking joke generated some of the most sympathy from me. I absolutely adored him and felt a stab to the heart harder than Flag did when I thought those fish were gonna kill him.
honestly, nothing in the movie made me feel more emotion than King Shark waiting in the bus outside the club. all alone :((
@@zacharyjackson1829 I never understood the hype for Groot I much prefer King Shark
@@SuperSteph5 if i had to guess it is a combination of just being voiced by Vin Diesel and the "cute" factor of only speaking in 1 word
I’m getting so sick of hearing people say it was a failure, I know so many people who watched it on HBO Max over the weekend… no, it didn’t break box office records but who’s actually surprised? It’s a HARD R rated movie, and who’s going to go to a theater to watch something when you can watch it for free at home. It’s easily the best movie I’ve seen all year.
cant tell them any different tho, anyone who wanted this movie to fail or flat out didnt like it is using that as evidence the movie is trash doing the whole "hurr durr dc movie garbage" when movies like black widow are complete dookie despite making money. since when does a CB movie have to break records every single fucking time? it doesnt have to make a billion+ at box office either like its damn near cringe at this point
Yep! It was also one of the most watched HBO Max premieres on the site, to no surprise of anyone.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So this must be what an ignorant and uneducated comment must look like
It’s the highest R rated film since the pandemic began and had more viewers than GVK and WW84 had on their opening weekends…. So what’s your point?
Ive watched it twice alreadu
In my honest opinion the characters in this movie seems more fleshed out except of the human villains, they weren't really as interesting except for the mad scientist and more specifically Starro because of how its got basically kidnapped, experimented for years and was blinded by rage and then when it died it kinda broke my heart a little when it said "I was happy.. floating in space.. staring at the stars.."
Awh that is what it said? I had a hard time understanding, no subtitles. That's so sad.
@@mohawkmeteor7189 yeah, it was basically saying "whyd you guys have to bring me down here in the first place, torture me for decades"
Polkadot man honestly stole the show for me, everything about his character was just perfect. His comedic timing, his backstory, his acting, just so good
I like his suit too, its way better than in the comics
One of my favorite DC characters now, I'm more of a fan of obscure and unique characters rather then the same characters they always put to the forefront all the time. they should do more with this iteration of him.
*SPOILERS*
I KNOW that's why I'm so sad he died at the end, he JUST became a superhero and he got fucking smushed. I feel like it's for shock value + killing him bc he was OP + his arc was kinda finished, but I honestly wish he lived bc he was so lovable :'(
@@mochafrappawhat YES ABSOLUTELY. his death was totally unnecessary and, although probably not intentional, feels apart of the "bury your gays" trope :(( i really loved his character and i hope they somehow bring him back in the sequel/spin off
@@raspberry_wiskey6999 polka dot man wasn’t gay lmao
I love how Gunn utilized Cena perfectly, showcasing his wit and charm and freakishly impossible strength, while hiding the weird tough guy face he does while acting. John, you're the toughest guy in the world, you don't need to do a fake tough guy stance.
He utilized everyone perfectly both fictional and the actual actors
Or you know...he was just in-character
@Blake Moss that’s how reviewing and critiquing works? Lmao
@Blake Moss you don’t just stick to one movie forever, we move onto the next good thing, and that doesn’t diminish this movie
Correction, he pretends to be the toughest guy in the world.
Americans will never understand how special it was to me, a portuguese, to see my home town (Porto) in one of the biggest movies of the year. Our portuguese actress (ratcatcher2) stole the show as well.
thats wholesome.
Porto is a city not a town
@@mainsmain 🙄
@@TheFirebreather maybe for Americans it's a town since compared to their cities it's way smaller
@@mainsmain he said "home town", you never say "home city". Even New York can be "hometown"
The cinematography in this film really stuck out to me (especially compared to a lot of other superhero films). The title cards/“Chapters”, the opening shot of Savant’s reflection in the puddle, the fight scene reflected on Peacemaker’s helmet. Overall, this film was really solid all the way through.
Glad to see someone shout out the fight scene in Peacemaker's helmet. I LOVED that bit
“This is Katana, she’s got my back! She could cut you down with one sword stroke just like mowing the lawn. I would advise not getting killed by her; her sword traps the souls of its victims.” - Rick Flagg
A+ dialogue
😂😂😂
I honestly forgot she was in that movie
So, that's it, huh? She's some kind of Katana?
she would’ve been very good and she be better with the R rating since she’s a fucking crazy ninja lady
i really liked how they didn’t try cheap and emotionally manipulative bs to try and make characters that are supposed to be unlikable, more relatable and sympathetic. also the bait and the switch in the first team scene was really effective
can you elaborate on cheap and emotionally manipulative bs. I'm interested.
@@man_the_nere uhmm...... Loki on Loki series, Lmao
@@man_the_nere dont get it wrong, i loved that show, and i love marvel, but from that timeline, Loki just commited mass murder on Avenger movie, and suddenly became a good guy bc he watched his fate
@@nilanavesa I don't think he was overall good until Ep4 at least. He was still trying to take over the TVA obviously until he met Sylvie.
@@nilanavesa Well not only did he watch his fate but he admitted that all the torturing and pain he causes is an act. He even says it.
One thing I think you passed over that made this movie so great was its friendships. The team you go along with grow together and bond in their own ways which is awesome but explicitly the fact that Harley and Rick totally coulda had some shitty shoe horned romance and you could see it coming from a mile away but no. They were just true friends, and same for Rat Catcher and Bloodsports friendship just being so pure. I think it really helped make this such a great team and connect to the audience.
Ratcatcher and Bloodsport had a Father-daughter like relationship, when Bloodsport mention she reminded him of his daughter.
You're forgetting about Milton and Polka-Dot Man
I love polka dot man!
Don't forget the trio Peacemaker, Bloodsport, and Flag. They had some pretty good chemistry that it made me genuinely upset in the end when they were forced to fight each other
It's hard to re-watch the party scene because you can see that Peacemaker totally had fun with the squad. Ratcatcher thanking him for asking a beer for Sebastian highly contrasts him pointing a gun at her.
There’s also a line flag has at the bar where he says “this could be the last drink of our lives” or something along those lines. Didn’t mean much the first time but on rewatch realizing that flag was the one who says it hits different
It was clear to me that when he was pointing gun at her, it was hard for him, but he stood by his twisted moral code. Honestly, really good performance by John Cena
He also really didn't want to kill Flag either. He was broken by that decision but for him, his country is more important. He said so himself. "I'll kill any man, woman, and child to keep it"
Yeah I think that’s the point he thinks that if he breaks his moral code once he won’t achieve his goal and that’s really the aspect I’m interested in for the spin-off
@@idiotwithanopinion8082
_"I cherish peace with all my heart. I don’t care how many men, women, and children I need to kill to get it."_
Yeah... At first, that line just seems like a funny line. Then we get to the end, and it suddenly has weight.
Starro's last line got me in tears. Just that line. That one passing line the henchman said before slowly panning to a giant alien starfish doing puppy eyes. Damn you James Gunn
That henchman was the general of the Corto Maltesian armed forces. When he saw that all was lost, he didn't bitch out but decided to die with his men. Pretty dignified death for a minor villain!
I was happy, floating, staring at the stars...
A Dictator guy yeah. I mean he decided to die there when he thought it was lost and it was cool but he was a dictator so I didn't feel that bad.
Starro was a victim too. They didn’t come to Earth with plans to invade, they were captured and tortured for 30 years by the US government. I’d be a bit pissed off too after that.
I don’t remember that line being delivered whatsoever. Guess I need to rewatch it or something.
This movie actually made me really like Joel Kinnaman's Rick Flagg, a character that I found dull as dirt in the first film. For that accomplishment alone, it gets several additional points in my book.
DC realizing having your director do whatever they want over a boardroom of executives that don't understand the characters is a top tier character arch
It's fun when it pays off but there are a lotta talented directors you don't wanna give full creative control lol
Zach Snyder, George Lucas, TIm Burton
dont give control to zack snyder tho or ull get a another army of the trash movie with :3 ratio and 4 hours looooonnnggg
I think Snyder ruined the new Batman
@@unhelpfulrevelations7989 Actually it's more a lesson to give power to writers not just directors
James Gunn wrote Snyder's best movie lol
"I can't believe this had a bullet?!?!"
Is a line that was so perfectly Harley. I've thought about it every day since watching it.
Harley was just great in this movie! Her escape scene was also hysterical and just awesome... I think I might have fallen for her at that exact moment 😂
@@wilsonjonah you're not alone bud
A lot of times I genuinely thought that margot was just improvising and really living the character, cuz a lot of her lines were just so damn natural
to be fair, decorative gun like that normally shouldn't be loaded
@@wilsonjonah She's so fun in Birds of Prey and even is good in the OG SQ. We're so lucky to have Robbie as just the PERFECT Quinn. It's like BTAS wrote it with her in mind when she was, like, 3 lol
I like how Bloodsport is basically a discount Deadshot but in this film, Deadshot became a discount Bloodsport
Look at the scenes of their daughters confronting them. Compare this:
“Mama says I can’t live with you because you kill people.”
“Das not true das a lie”
To them screaming at each other through telephones. That whole scene has better acting and writing than the entire 2016 film
Edit: wow that’s a lot of thumbs
Will Smith really, really tried but nobody, nobody can make those lines good.
God damnit now everyone gonna hate on the main character of the suicide squad I’m pissed
@@toren2099
I ain’t being mean to Bloodsport. I love him
@@nervousbreakdown711 for sure. Will smith is a good actor and in my opinion was one of three good casting choices from the first. Harley abs Amanda Waller are the other two. If they had given will a good movie and a good script, he coulda been one of the greats
I loved that scene with Deadshot and his daughter and NO ONE mentions it. He really is a shit father, but he loves her. It's not the trope of "oh, if only the system wouldn't have failed Deadshot, he'd have been a good Daddy!"
the music for harley's escape scene being about how she has to save herself because no one cares about her, then immediately after walking in on the squad's rescue plan? love it.
Before BvS came out I had a conversation with some non comic fans about how Suicide Squad had the potential to be this much more interesting, wacky kind of movie that had a lot of potential. The series is known for just killing off random C-list characters on a whim, so I thought it could bring out some really odd characters and be just more indiscriminately violent than the Snyder series.
This was the movie I was telling those people about. 5 years later it actually came out.
I feel like this was the grimy, filthy, morally grey, anything-can-happen superhero movie Snyder wanted to make the whole time
@@unhelpfulrevelations7989 And it was fucking awesome
@@unhelpfulrevelations7989 no it wasn't. A Snyder version of this would have some weird shit about how the world NEEDS morally grey murderer to kill people on behalf of the government and it would never have a plot point about the US doing something wrong.
@@kennethortiz2043 lol what Snyder movie was awesome?
Sebastian was the best character. Man had the squads back and just wanted to be accepted and pulls through with an army of rat homies. Also he's a rat, enough said.
Sebastian should get his own franchise. He could crossover with Stuart Little and they could go on adventures and shit!
he had the squads back. He could bite you in half like chewing the rug. I would advise not getting killed by his teeth, it infects it's victims.
DC finally got their own groot..
and its a rat
@@wrestlinganime4life288 I'd say king sharks more like the groot equivalent
@@wireboar7321 Aww he was such a cinnamon roll
Harley's escape genuinely was thrilling to me. And the aquarium scene made my heart melt.
NEW FRIENDS
*attempt to eat him*
Finally someone mentioned that aquarium scene cuz the soundtrack and sharks happiness at NEW DUMB FRENNDSS literally made me sob a little bit
@@lb2kxx it hurts😔 "NEW DUMB FRNDS...."
@@nazym513 i was so happy he was one of the characters to NOT die in the end
@@sirbooba4641 The second I saw Bloodsport shoot him like 5 times and he was completely fine, I knew he wouldn’t die, simply because he _couldn’t._ King Shark is like the Hulk on steroids.
When Harley said "I'm waiting for God to tell me," I lost my shit so hard. Biggest laugh of the movie and there were a handful of big laughs.
"Jesus Christ"
"Or him. Or anyone really"
@@brownmanoutdoors yes!!! that was so funny
Markiss: "this movie is not the funny to me"
Also Markiss: "the dialogue is funny and sharp"
This dude is all over the place with his statements.
For me, the humor served less as to be laugh-out-loud hilarious and more to endear you to the characters more. It keeps a consistent levity to the scenes that’s really charming, while still feeling sincere. It’s not like the movie doesn’t take itself seriously, it’s that it’s just acknowledging that fact that these characters combined this premise is kinda inherently silly. That level of self-awareness keeps the characters grounded and helps the more heartfelt moments feel genuine. That’s how it was for me, anyways.
Edit: although some parts were just legit fucking hilarious. Idris Elba’s delivery of, “Why the fuck are you in your underwear?” will always get me
The best line was:
- noone likes a show off.
- unless what they show off is dope as fuuuuck
- fuck thats true
John cena really nails jt
@@mohammadnaghizade3544 that was definitely the funniest part shit had all my friends geeked lol
I died every time Polka dot man’s mom shows up!
@@madelinekurtz2243 or every scene with the weasel
@@mohammadnaghizade3544 Idris and Cena really are the perfect foils for eachother
Rat-catcher 2 and Sebastian were the most adorable thing.
Nanaue tho
Rat Catcher bonding with King Shark was cute too & maybe even Bloodsport and Sebastian at the end
@@lb2kxx yea the very last shot in the movie sort of reminded me of Guardians 2. Rocket shedding tear. Both endings paid off big time. Now a James Gunn staple.
I was nervous whenever Sebastian was on screen thinking he was going to get killed any second
Wrong , Nannoaue is Adorable
I want to add on to the discussion on how the licensed music adds so much to this movie.
The scene where Harley escapes from the Corto Maltese prison with the Louis Primo song fits so well, but in a way that's not readily apparent. The song is about a gigolo (man supported by a wealthy woman, an extension of her) realizing that his life is ultimately worthless because there is no one out there that truly cares about him.
It fits Harley because she was always an extension of the Joker, and without that, and with her essentially abandoning her humanity, she knows deep down she's going to die alone. The scene with her hugging Rick Flag after she realizes that he was trying to orchestrate her rescue works so well afterwards because even in her state of nihilistic giddiness, she sees someone who cares about her well being. And the song is jovial in its cynicism, like Harley is in the face of all the horror around her.
Also that song is a fucking ditty and it's stuck in my head.
Between this and the Harley Quinn show, King Shark is absolutely thriving right now
Damn right. Both versions are different and yet are hilarious and loveable.
Then there's the CW Flash version
don't forget that one *ahem* animated movie
I was in the cinema and some guys behind me laugh about everything, I honestly believe they were high. They made the movie 100% better with that contagious laughter.
That same thing happened to me in Black Widow but that movie wasn’t even that funny so it just became annoying when anytime anybody said ANYTHING the person behind me laughed.
Please stop giving me mean comments. My mother reads the comments I get and she cries a lot because of it. Please be nice, dear jose
I didn’t like it that much, it’s better than the 2016 one but everyone was saying how funny this movie was and I stayed plain faced the whole time
Possibly contagious Rona too. :D
I watched it high and it was absolutely hilarious
(Although the Pixies needledrop had me earnestly rocking in my seat with hype)
I think what makes James Gunn's usage of licensed music work is that he mostly picks songs that are either obscure or at the very least not super well-known. He doesn't just grab random top 20 hits or songs by mega-famous musicians and drops them in randomly like the original Suicide Squad movie did.
Red Letter Media said the first suicide squads soundtrack felt like one of those Now that’s what I call music 67 CDs lmao
They also have a more consistent feel than the previous film's liscensed songs.
Also the songs kinda actually feel connected to the characters.
The gigolo song really hit me for Harley because she just killed the man she thought she would be with; but then he turned out to be just like Joker.
Honestly I found the "stealth" scene very funny. Them killing a bunch of people very loudly, then them walking 2 feet to 2 unsuspecting guards. At least on my first watch through, I thought this was very intentional and poking fun at stealth scenes in movies and videos games. I could be wrong but I def laughed at it
I think it's intentional but it still got me a bit out of the movie. The whole thing is incredibly funny so I still loved that scene but the stealth part in particular was more weird than funny to me.
Definitely some pacing issues, the Harley Quinn princess storyline felt weirdly out of place and the runtime could’ve been cut but otherwise this is by far the most entertaining DCEU movie thus far.
Interesting that it took a director from Marvel to make a competent and well-crafted DC movie.
I agree it was pretty out of place, but I think it was the best scene in the movie IMO. That ending felt like it completed her birds of prey character arc
I thought so too for a second myself in regards to the Quinn subplot but I gotta say I found its conclusion satisfying lol
I thought it was a neat subversion though. At first I was like: "okay, 100% this is a dream sequence, I mean this is Harley Quinn." I kept expecting her to wake up and still be in that hole in the ground, but when that never came, I was baffled. I also loved that moment where she pretended to be knocked out and then opened her eyes. 10/10 best moment in the movie for me.
@@m.s.5370 -- If a sequence in a movie feels like a dream and it's not then the movie is doing something wrong.
I never thought John McClane's descent into the vents was a dream but rather central to his journey.
Again, The Suicide Squad was good but it just felt like James Gunn had no idea what to do with Harley Quinn so he just made up some weird story where she was famous (or infamous) therefore she should immediately marry some rich politician.
Still better than almost everything DC's turned out so far.
@@incredibilistic That does check out. I've heard rumors that Gunn was given clearance to kill off literally any and every character he wanted to- except for Harley Quinn. Still though, I very much enjoyed her, which I guess can be credited to Margot Robbie's acting.
Somehow saying "suicide squad is the best superhero movie" is simultaneously a pretty good take and also something only an insane person would say
you gotta ad the the at the front ya gotta do it
I get that its a joke, but regardless, its not a good take either way, at least IMO.
This movie is actually the best superhero movie doe
The best? What about Scott pilgrim vs the world(misread the comment saying comic book movie)? Spiderman 2? Dark knight? Batman returns?
@@wireboar7321 scott pilgrim vs the world was a super hero movie? lol dont think so
dc movies making a comeback recently
yes
@@whysosnappy8016 what is ww84
@@whysosnappy8016 Nah... that one was still pretty good...
@@Batman-zi3ib exactly
@@deveshsood6087 Nah
TDK attack was probably the most funniest thing I’ve seen in awhile.
This movie was amazing. It's refreshing to see that a movie where the main selling point is:"Let's see who makes it to the end", and they still took enough time to make us get invested in such an off the wall cast of characters. I really hope that people support this movie as much as they can, it is truly a fantastic that is getting screwed over in such an undeserving way.
John Cena's performance is fantastic. It was so surprising for me to see Peacemaker actually have a character arc and Cena pulling it off flawlessly. And King Shark saying "Fake moustache!" makes me laugh out loud every time I think about it.
“FUCK!”
seeing him go from a funny character to an actual menace and fearsome villain was so satisfying, idk how they pulled it off.
Did you just say you saw John Cena. Teach me your ways.
Facts bruh, then he put his finger as the mustache 😂
They could have easily avoided detonating the explosives if they just let a climbing expert put them on all floors himself, like some sort of man who can climb anything.
that sounds impossible, where would even find such a man?
Yeah black spider
Like someone who climbs rope?
too late he's climbing on his way in heaven
@@metelineblue294 or hell.
This movie is exactly how comic book adaptations should be.
Idris had the most accurate British writing I've ever seen. I fell in love with Bloodsport as soon as he started talking to his daughter and they both just start screaming at each other with a pointless, weak argument. It's so human and real. They worked his dialogue so well for the whole movie. King Shark absolutely steals the show for me, I love the version of him in the animated Harley Quinn and I love this childlike happy version here. He and Ratcatcher 2 are the soul of this movie
I want to take a moment to shoutout the fight between Rick Flag and PM. One thing I absolutely loved about their fight was that it was clearly a fight to the death, and as a viewer I had no idea who was going to win (I didn’t know about the Peacemaker show). It was real tension in a superhero movie bc there was no guarantee that the good guy was going to make it. Pretty rare for a superhero movie and I commend it.
During the fight I honestly expected PM to die and the tv show would be a prequel that possibly ended with him getting arrested. End took me way off guard
Peacemaker show has been said to be a prequel, so even knowing there was a show I honestly thought Peacemaker would/could have died in that fight
Yeah! You are conditioned to believe the good guy will win the fight. But he doesn't, and it makes the movie so much more real and heartfelt.
It was such an awesome experience. I remember exactly when it hit me that I had no idea who was going to win, even knowing about the Peacemaker show. It was so refreshing.
@@DonkeyBoyVids I just read an article where James Gunn said the show will be Both a prequel AND a sequel. So my guess is it will be set after the movie but have moments set before possibly doing his origin and him getting arrested
For the love of God, I hope DC takes this as a win despite the box office numbers. It's actually good! Not a movie you have to pretend was tolerable compared to the rest.
i mean it's obvious to anyone that this movie is very well appreciated with just a 5 min web search but this is WB so i kinda have to assume they usually speak the language of money
This movie had a $175 million dollar budget so WB is really hoping they get thier money back
@@ayubali2431 the sad part is theyve only made approx 75M USD globally when Black Widow amassed over 360M and obviously this film is 10x better
@@zacharyjackson1829 The ratings probably played a part. Also, BW is part of the MCU while TSS is a sequel to one of the worst superhero movies ever. But I do agree, this movie is far superior.
@Spade Considering SS has arguably the worst editing for a modern blockbuster movie and BoP having a series of skits disguised as a plot, I don't know how you could say that.
Best superhero movie I have seen in a LONG time. Very original and fun
Honestly I was just having way too much fun with this movie. I’m gonna get crucified for this but I like it better than guardians of the Galaxy
A movie so good, DC just gave Gunn the keys to the kingdom. Hope that pans out.
5:56 that one shot on peacemakers helmet was done so well
I hadn't thought about how this movie is basically structured like one big comic arc, with each title card being a new issue. That changes how I think about this movie entirely. The movie felt like a love letter to the comics, and this just solidifies that feeling.
It makes me think of that behind the scenes teaser from last year where Idris Elba was like "It's like a massive graphic novel come to life." or something. People say that all the time about whatever movie they're promoting, and usually when they do I roll my eyes. But my man really wasn't lying. That is exactly what it feels like.
This is the first movie to be a comic come to life since Scott Pilgrim and it's 100% the director's skill.
Yeah especially having the original writer of the 1987 Suicide Squad series John Ostrander cameo in the film as a doctor implanting neck bombs. It really does feel like another arc of comics from that era.
i kinda want the character internal monologue to be brought into the movies. every comic has text bubbles of the character talking in their heads and ik that wont translate easily to a movie to have someone constantly talking but i feel like it could work for a Batman movie since theyre going more noir, like lean into the detective monologuing about the case as they go about solving it
@@franktheavocado7573 I think that could work for Batman. I'd be interested to see that, actually. Definitely not in a movie like this.
I loved everything about this movie, including the pacing and all the jokes. It's also one of the prettiest action movies I've ever seen, really feels like you're reading a brilliantly illustrated graphic novel.
I connected with king shark so much I felt so much suspense whenever he got hurt
If katana has flags back in this one he’d still be alive :(
😂😂THIS IS KATANA
She can cut you down in one sword stroke just like mowing the lawn
I'd advise not being killed by her
Nah she's too busy being The Female.
I was one of the people surprised at how good this was, hopefully this is a sign of DC movies going in the right direction and not just a one off hit
If DC movies just had no consistent tone and were basically "let's just give this director this property and let them do whatever" I'd be so down for that
It obviously depends on the director/writer. For example, I'm 100% sure The Batman will be amazing, but I'm a bit worried about The Flash and Black Adam.
You're in the comment section of every video I watch. Including your own!
@@anenemystand5582 yes, let them play around with different genres. Be the exact opposite of marvel.
@@anenemystand5582 that’s exactly what they’re doing rn
That last point encapsulated this movie and DC's recent success perfectly. Their (arguably) best releases so far haven't been superhero movies. They've been supervillain movies. DC makes really good villians. DC has always had that strength over Marvel, if you ask me. Even Starro the comically large, starfish shaped alien (as goofy as it is) got some character rounding through its slightly shoehorned final line and Peter Capaldi's acting job as a chaotic neutral mad scientist.
Tl;dr Batfleck was a mistake and DC needs to lean into their Rogue's Gallery a lot harder
Batfleck is one of the best things to happen to DCEU. Too bad he's having his last ride (pun intended).
@@nilsar4357 I guess if that's really how you feel about it. Personally I was pretty genuinely excited for him to play the part, but I thought he did a piss poor job with both Batman and Bruce Wayne. I'll take Polka Dot Man over that bullshit every day of the week.
@@mogo5055 "Piss poor job with both Batman and Bruce Wayne". That's the opposite of what he did so far 😂.
No denying Polka Dot man is interesting but he's no Batman.
Gunn killed off Polka Dot man too cheaply.
@@nilsar4357 again, you're welcome to that opinion. I just don't agree. To me it's just a really shallow and disinteresting rendition of the character. Especially considering the source material he and Snyder are supposed to be pulling from. King Shark got more character development. Hell, El Diablo from the first Suicide Squad got more development. Maybe it isn't Affleck's fault. Maybe the scripts suck and Snyder is a boring director. Maybe it's all of the above. I just know I don't like it, but more power to you if you do.
Affleck was a perfect casting for batman, Snyder just wrote batman rather poorly plus DC has just as good if not better superheroes than marvel, u gotta read more comics, if they play their cards right they'd make a s**t load of money. But hack Snyder and WB ruined the dceu. Yes Zach doesn't understand dc's characters.
This movie surprised me on how it made me care about the characters, who knew that one of my new favorite DC character is now the daughter of a C- tier batman villain Rat-catcher. Shame this didn't do well in the box office
Viola Davis has absolutely nailed that "Teacher who doesn't like you" energy for this character and it fits so we'll.
This movie feels like the film James Gunn has been building his career to making, it combines the oddball/outcasts dynamic and the humour therein with the gore and themes from his previous efforts Super and Slither. I'm really looking forward to future DC movies if they continue to just focus on being good and having little to no executive interference as this film did!
i forget at what part i said "this def came from the same guy who did Slither"
@@jjackson6082 it’s not a James Gunn movie if there are no tentacles in it.
@@jjackson6082 The graphic moments of violence often played for laughs reminded me of slither, as did almost everything to do with Starro and the 'Zombies' at the end.
Why is it that I remember the name 'James Gunn'? I swore I heard it somewhere...
@@MustardGuy161 gotg
That scene where they walked out in the rain I could see the words "The Suicide Squad" in big comic book letters.
I love how they made Starro a big horror type of villian, than preceded to show a shot of all of him standing over the rumbled jotunheim, and he looked so wacky and they really pulled into that with the title card of the final battle. They really made starro a great character even with his final words being kinda heartbreaking
I love that, since Idris was clearly brought on initially to flat out recast for Deadshot - the first scene of Bloodsport with his Daughter really solidifies that they're the same concept, different execution
And I loved that instead of going back to jail our Squad got to go free because they did a Terrible Thing by blackmailing Waller
Waller knows they'll get caught doing something bad eventually lol
no they did not bring bloodsport to flat-out recast deadshot, the early script includes both deadshot & deathstroke but because they weren't able to they gave Gunn the opportunity to use whatever character he wanted to use (bloodsport & peacemaker). So he's basically a replacement not a "recast" because the door is still open for will if he ever wanted to come back as deadshot in the future
@@twuxeu8770 I can't recall where I read it but what I meant specifically was initially Idris Elba was meant to be a recast before they chose to keep the door open for Smith's Deadshot
@@twuxeu8770 That was not Gunn's script. Gunn wanted Deadshot, but had to replace Will Smith with Idris Elba, because Smith had not the time for the movie. So they took Elba but also replaced Deadshot with Bloodsport, so Will Smith could take the role again in a future movie. Probably changed the role here and there a tiny bit but I could totally see Deadshot instead of Bloodsport in the movie. (But Elba nailed it, so the movie is perfect as it is)
Difference is, Idris plays the stone cold killer in need of redemption sort of type way better than Smith, who’s just too chill and cool to sell it.
Man that camp scene was absolutely hilarious.
Yeah its so funny
Yup, loved jhon cenas performance. Cant wait for the peacemaker series
You missed the most important character of them all: Milton.
I love this movie, and it's disappointing not nearly enough people saw it. Warner did not know how to market this gem. I hope we still get a sequel.
Remember that they also release it simultaneous in HBO Max, so the box office numbers gonna be all over the place, contrary to Disney+ were you have to play some extra charge to watch the movie.
I was surprised by how much I cared about the characters by the end of the film. James Gunn simply did a fantastic job at making us care about some weirdos and somehow Rick Flag
I didn't even realize Rick Flag was the soldier guy in the first film. That's how forgettable he was in the first movie.
He made us care about everyone and perfectly wrote them and decided how the story would go. Harley with her psycho yet innocent attitude and savage choices. Rick Flag with his leadership and love for his country. King Shark for his surprisingly innocent behavior, innocently idiotic behavior, and wanting love and friends. Bloodsport for his care and leadership. Ratcatcher for her sweetness and Sebastian. Polka Dot Mans hard to explain but him too. James Gunn did perfect
MAJOR SPOILER
Dude... when they killed Milton i knew nobody was safe in this movie. He didn't have to come but he did, cause that's what heroes do...
@@fatefps. I liked how we can see polka dot man develop over the course of the movie. He starts off timid and depressed, he gets to unwind more when they were partying undercover, he develops a bond with Milton, becomes more assertive and efficient with his polka dots by the third act culminating in an (almost) satisfying end to his arc.
@@ashebull123 agreed
The best part of this movie is that you simply have to watch the full picture when you watch it. You can’t just turn on scenes out of context when every scene is either so crucial or so fun.
So true. I was texting someone while i watched the movie and my whole attention wasnt on the movie and i got a bit lost. It was still good though but i was confused for like half the movie.
It's a genuinely refreshing thing that this movie is very good. When you actually try and let good artists make good art, then this is the kinda thing you get from it.
So, they're trading the first characters from First Suicide Squad movie with better characters in this sequel /stand alone movie:
Killer Croc - King Shark
El Diablo - Peacemaker
Deadshot - Bloodsport
Slipknot - Polkadot Man
Katana - Ratcatcher 2
Meanwhile, both of Harley and Boomerang are still the same while Rick Flag gets a better character development from a generic boring military guy in first movie to be a responsible leader who can now crack a joke
lmao oof captain boomerang got cut out for slipknot
Damn you didn't have to do Polka-Dot Man like that
@@deanfernandes7604 If you remember in the first SS movie, Slipknot is the first member of the team who died while in TSS, Polkadot-Man is the last member of the team who died. Both of these characters are just there for some reason and have useless ability but Polkadot-Man gets better character development than Slipknot whose only had 5 minutes of screen times.
Honestly after watching guardians 1 and 2 and then seeing the trailer for the suicide squad, I knew the reboot was gonna be good. James Gunn has honestly earned my trust in his films. He can write and direct. He's honestly perfected his craft. What he does in a two hour movie, other tv shows rarely even do in two seasons. The characters are relatable despite their "super hero" status. I'm interested in the story. Each scene is art in motion. So at this point I'm not surprised it's good. Honestly.
You're hella honest.
@@SeppukuDoll honestly I got you man.
@@NhemLee honestly, James Gunn should really do R rated films. Not saying he should stop films like Guardians but the suicide squad showed us that James Gunn knows how to do gore as well comedy.
dc movies have been making a comeback, and I think the reason for this is that warner bros have finally understood that limiting directors' and writers' creativity is a bad thing.
And that they need to stop chasing Marvel and do it their own way. They can’t be like marvel anyways, marvel is the way it is because of what they created and set up for the last decade, DC doesn’t have that so why bother try to be what it’s not and just be what it is.
But unfortunately mainstream audience doesn't care about DCEU now because of their past polarizing movies
This movie was great but it was a box office bomb and last 2 dceu movies (WW84 & BOP) were also flop
Well they give freedom for Man of Steel and the reactions were divise as fuck.
The snyder cut honestly doesn't change the past mess.
We the right directors for the right characters,especially for Superman
@@abh7529 Only reason for its bomb is because it was also released on hbo max for users. There was only a 4 million difference betweeen what was expected
This movie bombed because, 1. It's ina pandemic and it's rated R, 2 released in HBO, 3 maybe cus of the first suicide squad but mainly the first 2 i belief
This movie was amazing! In my country, they just opened cinemas, and this was such a refreshing way to go back to the movies. I'm now recommending it to my friends so I have a good excuse to go watch it again.
Truly excellent movie experience
It's strange looking back because this movie really did break the DC mold for a bit and then Shazam 2 and Black Adam happened and then the DCUE literally collapsed
Something that marks this film as great for me is how, even when I didn't laugh at the humor all the time, it didn't make me roll my eyes or take away from my enjoyment. I could always see where the film was going, and I don't mean that in a predictable manner, I just mean, 'oh, I can see what gunn is trying to do here'. While I didn't feel much of a gut punch when a character would die on screen, honestly, I think this sets a great standard for sequels. Because being from a prior film no longer guarantees safety.
Also, loved the Taika Watiti cameo.
Only thing that made me sad was the fact that they killed Boomerang off. Homie is so much fun
I hated that they killed boomerang off so much, enjoyed him last film and his weird unicorn fetish
Legit he was the second best part of the original next to Harley.
@@almostadonovan
Will Smith was the best
I really loved how the movie just rolled with the inherent ridiculousness of the story, yet still managed to create some genuinely emotional moments. Kudos for the creators of this movie, an for Warner Brothers to let them do what they do.
On a personal note: Polka Dot Man's facial outgrowths? Yukkkk!!! Instinctive shivers of disgust when I saw that.
The title cards make it feel like I’m reading a comic arc where multiple series are involved and you have to read one then switch to the other.
You know how this movie is good? Almost every comment is a praise to a different character or scene. That means so many this movie's roster was sufficiently fleshed out to be loved by the audience.
Yes, absolutely this. My fav was Ratcatcher 2, but each time I see someone praising Polkadot man, King Shark, Peacemaker, Flag or Bloodsport I'm happy because they did such a great job at fleshing out each character.
In the first few comments alone, I see different comments praising (in this order):
Peacemaker
Ratcatcher 2
King Shark
Bloodsport
You saying "I love" and "Suicide Squad" in one sentence is something nobody would have ever expected :D
I went to see this with my friends, and we described the movie to everyone that asked as a collective drug trip. This movie was so good man the sequence of Harley busting off the place she was being held was so freaking good I loved every second.
I was genuinely surprised by how good it was. I was entertained from start to finish.
James Gunn understand comic books way more than we thought.
Rather than changing them to make more edgy or adult, he embrace the surreal, dumb, over the tope and colour aspects of it while still telling a mature story.
something i think Zack Snyder could totally learn from
I would describe this movie as a “live action cartoon”
Every time the chapter cards appeared a smile cracked on my face god theyre so fucking cool
don't be shy do the Shang-chi quickie 🙂
The moment they realize they just cleared a camp of friendlies had me dying laughing, come on man
Edris Elba’s performance was, IMO, his most enjoyable performance. He’s very entertaining and I’d rather see him return than Will Smith as Deadshot. (I haven’t seen every Idris film ever)
Edit: I want to see more of Ratcatcher and Bloodsport. A really nice dynamic)
Personally Pacific Rim is his best to me, I just love that one so much. This is a very very close second
Y’all need to watch The Wire. Without a doubt, that is his most captivating and best performance. I don’t think he’ll ever top the acting he did for The Wire. You’ll forget he’s a British dude within one scene.
Luther is also very god, but his acting in that is a over the top, but then again his character is also over the top, so I think that is his best performance
The problem is, Deadshot suck because it was written badly. I want to see the character given a new chance tbh.
@@blushingralseiuwu2222 Yes, I can see Will Smith nailing the charmant and snirky Deadshot. He plays two roles: Funny Smith and Sad Smith. They took the wrong Will Smith.
the contrast between the two “you die scenes” says everything you need to know god this movies great
James gunns method of making a scene around a song was executed perfectly like he did in guardians of the galaxy. Just give this man all the money DC.
The scene with the reflection of peacemakers helmet is so good