Tesla FSD Is a SCAM and an ILLUSION?! Article Claims There's a Better Solution!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- In an article on CleanTechnica, Steve Hanley writes that George Hotz, founder of comma ai, and others believe that autonomous driving solutions like Tesla's FSD Beta are NOT the solution to safer and better driving--at least for the foreseeable future. Rather connected cars using V2X-C or other similar technologies are. Will connected cars be safer than autonomous driving cars? And why can't we have both?
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I think you underestimate how ignorant people can be about Tesla's achievements, if you're stuck on the wrong side of the Algorithm's media divide. You'll see a video about Tesla running over a child mannequin, then a dozen videos about people freaking out that Teslas are so dangerous, and nothing else. :-/
The Tesla bot is new trend of ignorance...
Tesla hasn't achieved very much with FSD.
@@kellymoses8566 Reaction bait troll. :-P Go away.
@@jonmichaelgalindo he has been lying about full self driving since 2016. He just lied about the incident with his son x.
@@jonmichaelgalindo doesn't Elon spend all day trolling on Twitter?
"Humans are really, really good chess players". Oh, wait ...
Robots will never cook as good as humans! Mark my words!
@@wolfgangpreier9160 Yeah but they'll never hook a loogie in your burger, either intentionally or otherwise.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 guarantee a robot will be able to cook better than your average fast food cook very easily. same with bar food, or any basic restaurant. when your competition is a bunch of people that hate their job, because cooking is a thankless job with terrible pay and long hours during the worst times(you work while everyone else is on holiday), its pretty easy to beat them. they arent very good at their job, because they dont care.
@@PeteZam you are correct
@@PeteZam I know, the best cook in our whole family is a male IT student… It was sarcasm wrapped into wishes for my future. I dont think such lowly jobs will be done by a Bots. They are destined for the higher qualified like delivery driver or sewage worker.
There are so many terrible drivers out there that I can’t wait for FSD to be a full release product. Game changer.
As soon as Tesla FSD is proven to be just 1% safer than the average driver, it should be made mandatory on every new vehicle sold in the US.
@David Beppler With that level of emotional empathy, yeah Id trust Tesla A.I. over your concerns for causing harm when you drive.
Amen!
@@davidbeppler3032 safety features should never be regulated. Their adoption can be handled thru customer preference and insurance incentives.
They need to be mandated as drivers and manufacturers won't use them. Look at the history of seatbelts.
I installed Openpilot on our 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk back in 2018! Just had to update a few parameters such as wheelbase and steering response. It's been great as an open source experiment that has real-world applications, such as hands-free driving on long boring freeway drives, with no nagging or steering wheel touching required, given proper attention (from Driver Monitoring).
Openpilot is that good why is not a leader of autonomous driving?
@@hwillia204 OP is alright! Been a great R&D experiment on our 2017 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk, highly recommended but mainly for good engineers.
I guess the fact that my vehicle has been driving me around 99% of the time without any interventions/takeovers over the previous 3 months is a complete scam. Should go ahead and just return my car.
My Katie ditto (she’s a white MY, identifies as purple, as evidenced on all screens).
She drives me 52M to work and back every day since February, with only occasional interventions, practically always one of the four spots with no lane markings.
@@gcauldwell yes if your roads are mainrained it works ok but never 100% as the roads need good paint , and sensors in the road and all cars need the same tech to be 100%
He has given up on FSD and has deep regrets over fallout with Musk
Cruise,Waymo and others fall into the category not Tesla.
So charging 15k for FSD Beta (emphasis on beta) is okay with you?
@@Emm2004 No, because we are not allowed to use it in Europe. For the US? Its too cheap. By far!
@@Emm2004 willing paying customers over VC money with no progress to show for it.
you cant even remove your hand from the wheel with teslas. unlike others which actually dont have a driver.
@@wolfgangpreier9160 people will just buy the comma ai equivalent for
I have a very hard time trying to figure out what problems V2X in any form can do for safety that a pure vision based separate system can't. The vision system can detect all other objects, moving or not, with plenty of time to break and avoid. It's simply a matter of adjusting speed to the conditions and the ability of the vision system.
What is it V2X need to solve? Speeding through intersections because all other vehicles' position and speed are known? This is not only unnecessary, it's also highly irresponsible. Neither wild animals, babies, pets or balls will have V2X inserted, so vehicles need a vision-based system to spot those.
The idea that we need to optimize road usage and make traffic as fast as possible is a structural fallacy, most likely endorsed by the car and fossil industry. Inner cities need to be made life-sized and friendly to active travel (walking and cycling) and safe. If motorized vehicles needs access they should drive slow and be segregated by curbs.
Absolutely no need for V2X. I don't think it solves anything.
Knowing GH, I think this story is twisted. George for years been saying FSD is probably the first and Comma AI would be second.
It's a smart marketing trick from George's side. Now more people who didn't do it otherwise will say, "oh yeah, so what you got?!" and go check his product.
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Computers will never beat a human chess master. I remember. Never be a Go master. Never create art.
Hive driving is a cool concept, agreed. It seems to me that some level of FSD-like autonomy would be required to implement the hive, though?
As others has side this was around when people first started talking autonomy. It is going to take the strong arm of the law (congress) to make this happen.
Meh, just magnets. Like a Lego train :D
That might be less fanciful than I first intended, as a hive approach is pretty much how railroads have always worked, albeit with a lot of manual intervention.
I find it incredible that they even think this is ever going to work. Even after decades there will still be people refusing or forgetting the tag, and oh we also have to tag every deer that can cross the road, and even tag loose debris on the road as soon as they appear ? This could arguably make driving more unsafe since the driver will get a false idea of everyone and everything else wearing this tag. I would say that after 30 years this system will increase safety maybe only 1%
Humans are really good drivers? Maybe SOME humans are. I see many humans that can't apparently drive in a straight line without nearly crashing on a daily basis.
I’m a great driver with a perfect record and I suck at driving.
I totally agree. Both will get the best results.
Police state policy: public safety is always more important than Personal freedom. Driving on public roads is a privilege given by the police state.ü
And interview to George Hotz would be great!
do you think they maybe are abusing some quotes from George Hotz?
His comment about what causes accidents: drunks, texters, and people falling asleep at the wheel, I believe is inaccurate. It seems to me that the two biggest causes are tailgating, and changing lanes without looking.
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Be sure and check out the hatchet job on Tesla and Elon in The Washington Post by Dana Milbank “Introducing the all-new Tesla Model Q: Join the conspiracy”. The “Comments” are especially enlightening regarding how many Tesla Elon and EV haters there are.
Many. There are also many men and wimin out there hating their children or other men and wimin or colored or chinese or carots. So what?
About mobile supercomputer is about Nvidia Pegasus not about Tesla HW. And MobileEye did use radar too, so...
Remember, the Insurance Highway Safety Institute (or whatever it's called) put out their report that a person is 9 times less likely to be involved in an accident when using Autopilot than a human driving.
Thanks for the analysis John, great stuff
Seconded. John picked up on points I missed. Excellent.
Incredible analysis John. This article represents a profound admission by Comm AI that their company isn't going to be able to solve fully autonomous driving, and nor are they going to continuing trying to do so (unless they're throwing up a smokescreen/red herring). As you say, John, when Tesla eventually solves full self driving, all cars driving with their FSD software will be BOTH autonomous AND fully connected, so it's not an either/or proposition...Tesla will solve both. Oh and that other thing where George Hotz says that humans really are great drivers, then gives us the statistic that around 1.2 million people are killed on the roads each year, globally, often due to tiredness, drunk/drug driving, speeding, texting or otherwise losing attention or doing unsafe things (not to mention all those who are chronically disabled and traumatised by these and other road accidents). Solving autonomous driving is one of the - perhaps the - most important and near impossible tasks humans are trying to solve using technology. It's a bold, brave, ambitious and essential project from Tesla - let's hope they can get it done (and not tooooo long from now), thus saving millions of lives and significantly reducing injuries and trauma on the world's roads.
Humans ARE fabulous drivers - compared to organic kumquats!
A safe gap between moving vehicles is 2 seconds minimum.
3 second gap is now the latest recommendation.
A 2 second gap = 1 car length per 10kmh. Therefore at 100kmh a 10 car gap is required to deliver a 2 second gap. Most drivers only have a one second gap and too many idiots don't even have a one second gap. Result multiple car collisions.
Maybe where you live you can leave a 10 car gap between you and the car in front of you. In LA you will be lucky to have a single card length gap between you without someone squeezing in.
I guess that is the NASCAR factor he was referring to not the speed issue.
Like you can drive in any city and leave a 10 car gap between you and the next car! In someones dreams maybe!
And if I am driving a 1948 IH 3/4 ton truck you better give me 10 seconds or more. That is where the car to car communication would be great. Keep other cars from pulling in ahead of me. OK it is a bit absurd but it does prove a point.
It is inaccurate to say it’s not here. My Tesla just drove me across Topanga canyon in LA. The last update made the car adequate.
With or without a fire?
@@dirkbester9050 they should charge for dumb comments.
Doc, you've done a pretty good job of being even-handed here, slightly snarky tone notwithstanding. I'm an autonomous vehicle engineer for a small R&D company. Some great points that I think you made but deserve amplification: humans aren't great at driving, we don't need human-level intelligence for driving; herd animals have enough intelligence to do complex traffic, there IS no perfectly safe driving, but there is probably 2 orders of magnitude of accident prevention to be gained by intelligent infrastructure, "solving" reasonably safe autonomy in private structured environments can be done with the type of tech being deployed by the non-Tesla players. Tesla's is the only approach I think will be reasonable about open road driving.
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I've suggested for a long time that "FSD" Cars will essentially be a rolling wireless intranet, broadcasting details of their surroundings to a 500 m "bubble", warning of hazards, knowing when other such vehicles are approaching a junction from another direction, maybe adjusting speed to avoid stopping at junctions, etc.
Autonomous Cannonball? Yes, yes, yes! The winner can advertise FSD.
Just last week Tesla announced they're using the ESS "H.E.L.P" system which is essentially "C-V2X"
“There’s no chance that the iPhone is going to get any significant market share.” - Steve Ballmer, Microsoft CEO. - Experts frequently get it (the future) absolutely wrong.
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I would like to have my own self-driving car. It is like having a personal driver to pick up your kids or take you the doctor.
It seems that in NA there's a lot of progress with FSD. However owning M3LR FSD since 2019 shows little progress in EU (Netherlands) and with the last update 2022.36.2 from last week i had to disengage 8 times on a 100 km high-way (lane changes; awkward steering, ao) which was worse than before. Cann't use when driving with my wife and dog.
Because all of the beta testing is being done in North America, so sadly what you have is autopilot, and not FSD or FSD beta. At some point I think within a year or two, your FSD will suddenly get way way better.
@@tribalypredisposed It's Enhanced Autopilot, not just Autopilot. It's an EU-specific Navigate on Autopilot which - among other things - is limited in its steering because of EU laws. And I think it's more than a few years for the EU to get more favorable FSD laws, honestly (which is why I haven't opted to buy FSD). I think it won't be until literal robotaxis with no steering wheel are shipped.
@@Muskar2 Agree with the first sentence but hope you are wrong with the following sentences😉
@@KJ190756 Sure, I hope it comes faster too.
“Everything needs to be connected to be on the road” is a terrible idea for so many reasons, and nothing is more embarrassing than claiming AV’s are impossible while also asserting everything that could be on a road should be equipped with 5G… dogs, babies, traffic cans, deer, etc. The security attack surface alone is terrifying.
Full Self Driving will be 99% optimized around June 2025. That's because Singularity was released June 25, 2010.
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Don't you think elon has to cool his comments on world affairs...the answer is yes
He needs to talk more about the merits of tesla and stop creating overhangs for the stock ....its about time leadership at tesla take a stand
It's always difficult to estimate how long it will take to solve a problem. Once you really understand the problem, then it is solved. While you don't understand the problem, you can't possibly state how long it will take to solve - it can only be a guess. On a journey of reaching a goal, you look at the first problem to solve and estimate how long it will take to solve and then we will be perhaps 1/2 way to the goal, so you estimate the final goal should take about 2X your estimate for that first problem.
But when the first problem is completely understood and solved, now the next problem is much more formidable, because you know more about it and are beginning to understand parts of it. And you estimate the time to solve this next problem you don't yet understand. But surely it represents 1/2 way to the final goal? So the final goal must be only 2x the time to solve the current goal and with that concession, the final goal moved further away again.
When you realize that each problem solved, although a grand achievement, reveals the next problem that is as difficult as the sum of all the previous problems and it becomes very demoralizing to discover that by going 50% of the way there in each increment, you will never get there.
We may have solved problems elegantly and perhaps even within the time we promised, and still be faulted because we also exposed an enormous remaining problem. Skeptics are left feeling that FSD is no closer than we thought it was 10 years ago, and therefore we must have not made any progress?
Audi is telling us they know they won't be able to achieve autonomy without directly saying it
Sour grapes indeed.
Those "rear end accidents"...
Were the "autonomous" vehicles running into vehicles, or being hit?
If the latter, it's not a problem with autonomy, but human drivers.
Some humans ARE absurdly good at moving through space though
SOME, not all.
Even if true self driving never came to fruition. There is tremendous value in the technological journey that will result in safer cars for everybody.
To all the people who constantly say it can't it won't or it never will you should just go piss off because you've never accomplished anything yourself and clearly the article you're talking about here was written by someone who was paid by the word not Compelling insights!
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C-V2X standardisation activities have been ongoing for at least 5-10 years, at least in Europe. There were two competing standards, one based on wifi and another one on 5G.
Sure, they can be useful to provide early warning about accidents, cars braking in front of you, etc.
My problem with them at the time was always that they don't solve the full driving problem. An autonomous car will never be able to rely on these technologies only (see also smart infrastructure) as there is always a chance for a non connected vehicle to have in front. So, sure connected technologies can help you be 99% safe, but unless you solve non-connected self driving, they will never be 100% fool proof. For me they are a "nice-to-have" add-ons
V2X is maybe somewhat good. But one should not require everyone else to have transponders to get from A to B safely. FSD doesn't need any of that. It's getting pretty darn safe already, and DOJO should speed that up significantly.
Unless you fit one to every bike, skateboarder, dog, lost cow, goat, ball, kid, old person, guy with his headphones up loud, and etc, then any system that can only protect items with a transponder can never be the total solution.
@@jimwithheld7217 Right. The article says we shouldn't need to spend so much money when we have a technology right in front of us, but I guess we have to spend trillions to outfit every damn thing. And of course nobody even wants a National ID, let alone forced tracking for everyone and everything on the planet.
The local race track requires you pay for an ambulance to standby. That’s a few hundred dollars.
Until we have FSD as shown in Minority Report with underground tunnels and vertical driving at high speed then it’s not FSD!
Having connected vehicles so that a shool bus driver would not let kids get off if there was a car that did not stop for the bus- how about connected vehicles and FSD that would not allow a car to pass a bus with kids getting off.
How does the "solution" from "Baidu RT6 " about autonomous driving address the TEsla FSD? Is the offer from Baidu a serious one?
and another caveat about Tesla having less accidents is that only excellent 98%ers or so are allowed to use beta
Organic based car control systems are at their peek of development cycle little room for improvement.
Silicon based car control systems are at the the beginning of their development curve with lots of room for improvement.
Peek is a verb. You're looking for a noun.
@@gregbailey45
Thank your for paying attention
For the last 3 Months my model 3 has been driving me around 93% of the time. My average Monthly miles on FSD is 900 miles.
BTW. I do intervene mostly tapping on the accelerator to go. Also disengage once in a while to prevent an uncomfortable situation. Like break early so the front of the car is not too far out or getting into a turn lane early.
Im a complete noob at this and so i would like to ask ppl here. Once we have fully auto driving, how high are the chances that cars can get hacked and what can be done to prevent it? What i mean is companies that deploys millions of dollars in security get hacked so how can the manufacturers deploy good security in individual vehicles?
The only thing I agree with is that autopilot needs to be better than an average driver PAYING FULL ATTENTION. Not just "better than average" if including idiots texting, speeding etc.
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Connecting cars is a 40 year old idea. Crazy!? The western end of Interstate 10 was studded with sensors about 4 decades ago (a CalTrans experiment) to facilitate smoothing congestion by remote car control that closes gaps between cars -- reducing cars to within 6 inches -- and controlling speed. Well, how did that go? Still waiting.
Misnomer: a wrong or inaccurate name or designation.
It does not mean "misconception" nor "fallacy".
AP 2.0 already had 8 cameras installed
I originally thought FSD taxis would happen in Sept 2023, then COVID happened and now Tesla has 500k fewer cars on the road than projected, so now I think in 2025 somewhere will make it legal.
Thaks very much for bringing this up!
So according to this article, research and development shouldn't be pursued unless it is the best solution? How do you know the best solution? Autonomous cars that are in communication with other nearby transportation systems would be even safer than autonomous cars alone. Shouldn't every pedestrian communicate with cars nearby as well. However how does a car drive down a country road if it isn't autonomous?
Perhaps Tesla should connect its cars via WIFI so one Tesla would not crash into another Tesla. That works for me! I think connected autonomous cars would be a really great step forward.
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Lawrence’s (aka Larry when he worked for GM) book was released in 2018…. Check the GM Autonomy vehicle (fuel cell skateboard) that was Larry’s baby.
The question for me is, do we really want or need autonomous vehicles? I enjoy driving, especially when there aren't idiots on the road and as ADAS becomes more common and a requirement to future car manufacture, accidents will be reduced as it will be more difficult to have an accident. Just by employing regulations which require an automated system that will not allow a driver to speed, tailgate, drive when not alert, cut in front of a vehicle in your blind spot and will actively avoid collisions driving will become much safer and less stressful.
George Hotz is just a software engineer. Personally I think you need a computer science + physics + engineering background. I don’t think he’s remotely qualified on the subject.
An industry where loads of money has been dumped into, without a result to show for? What about the energy industry where nuclear fusion is only 5 years away for more than 50 years.
Maybe his company is scam, so he think everybody else are too.
Sounds like the definition of ‘projecting’
wait. monkeys can drive cars?
You know what Aunt Jolesch written by Friedrich Torberg said about MEN? Free translated " What a man is more handsome than ape is pure luxury" "Was ein Mann schöner is wie ein Aff', is ein Luxus.".
What is the difference between MAN driving cars and APES? Please tell me, i dont really know after watching all the road rage videos here on YT.
Good for you. My opinion of Dr. Know-it-all (annoying name...) just went up considerably! Examining your assumptions and making sure you're not being blinded (or misled) because you are a _____________________ [whatever] fanboy is an excellent attitude. Very few people do this. Way to go Dkia!
I can’t give you a counter argument because I’m putting my money on the line. I’m just using logic and keeping my emotions out of it. As for the reason it is emotionally for me. I lost my only son to a car accident, but my decision is based on logic.
It seems like Dojo will be training Tesla’s by the end of Q1 2023. This should keep the FSD advancements on its exponential trajectory. Given that Tesla’s should be driving themselves with no interventions within 2.5 years, in the US. In reality I believe that by the end of 2023 Tesla no interventions will be at 98% or better.
FSD 99.99% ready by 2032.
When me (as an European) learned that you have only 55 mph in some places I was like: What? That is way too fucking slow. We have 130 kph -> (80 mph) or 110 kph -> (68 mph) on highways and 90 kph (56 mph) are on single line roads between cities.
What you Americans seems to lack are good road rules, that are known, and enforced. You also lack driving schools - we have lessons required by law (in my country it is 36 hours of teory and 34 hours of driving, parking and car maintainence - also checking if the car is in drivible condition etc. the lights are functioning, the breaks are engaging and so on) this is ended with a test of our ability to know the rules and how to drive.
The lector in these driving schools is certified and it is required that you are being teached by this lector. So there is no "My dad teached my how to drive"
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This was admirably clear. Good work.
Calling a competitor a scam?
There's a very important point which the article missed completely, and I wish your video had addressed.
It's not *just* about safety. It's also about economic value. Autnomous vehicles can create a huge economic impact, which the other suggestions in the article simply do not.
Suppose we have these two alternatives, which we will consider as equally safe:
1. Nanny cars which make sure the driver isn't sleepy, drunk, distracted, hungry, horny or whatever before allowing them to drive.
2. Autnomous cars which can drive just as well if the "driver" *is* all of the above.
Neither car will crash, but the autonmous car actually allows the driver to use it, instead of seeking less efficient alternatives. And they can make use of the travel time for work or relaxation (which also has economic value - we are, after all, willing to pay for entertainment). Even if time in the car isn't quite as productive as time outside it, it's still more than the 0 you get if you have to focus 100% on the driving, and the total value generated is huge.
In case some self-righteous apologist wants to argue that safety is the only thing that matters... I'll remind them that economic value is why we drive cars in the first place. If you want absolute safety, you can ban cars altogether and just walk everywhere. But that will actually cause more deaths, because the economic value created by cars in general (and autonomous ones in particular) can be used to improve standards of living, health, medical research, and increased safety in other aspects of life.
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Totally agree. Sour grapes
Driving 'with the flow' is safer than driving at the posted limit.
True, and even kind of obvious if you stop to think about it.
Interesting factiod:
In most major cities (like Dallas) on most major streets (multi lane with major intersections controlled by traffic lights), city engineers DYNAMICALLY adjust the timing of each traffic light so that you have to drive at least X mph but no more than Y mph to go from one intersection to the next without having to stop.
The engineers do this to maximize traffic flow. Even if X is higher than the posted speed limit. I have driven on such streets when the traffic was flowing at 10 mph above the posted speed, and made it all the way across town, very few lane changes, without hitting a single red light.
It is cool, and IT IS SAFE. (Well, safER.)
I like your style.
Humans have crashed 42,875 times in 2021 in the US alone. This is an average of 117.22 human crashes per day. These are only the ones that have been accounted for and does not include thousands of small crashes that don't get reported. Many humans are good drivers but many are not.
When they start talking about the tech always knowing where we are even on bicycles so it's all connected, I fear for freedom.
So what you are saying is, had Elisabeth Holmes had put the word “beta” on the end of Theranos she would be a genius rather than a fraud?
Tesla is the only developer in the right path to have SFD level 5+ in the next 18 months or less.
Due diligence is really important & Mr Hotz failed rather dramatically in writing this article. He should have talked to you (or many, many other Tesla FSD Beta drivers) to get some more accurate data or even antecedent feedback. As a fellow FSD Beta tester, I thank you for being a defender of fact and truth.! 😊
He didn't write this article, nor the one it's based on.
He never wrote the article and honestly, I think George Hotz was taken out of context, especially when he said that in 2017, whereas this article now brings it up in 2022, 5 years later.
I don’t want to hive drive
27:45 Still... Hotz is not someone from the woods..... Just to mention.
George isn't even a hater lol
(by which I mean this headline is, as always, very misleading)
The author of the article knows little about the subject. Connected cars were the bunch of ideas which were at the beginning of the autonomous cars thing - something I remember 20 years ago. The reason it didn't catch up is that is more difficult to practically implement than e.g. Tesla's robotaxi. The AI prepared to operate in human environment is dependent (in development) on a car company. When they nail it, owners of brand can use it. The rest of the drivers can behave as before, can drive old or cheap cars, or drive manually because they like it.
With connected cars, everybody has to be changed, all cars connected, the tech installed on all bicycles, 20-years old clunckers, Amish carts, lawn movers, dogs and cats etc. It is just impossible in human societies which are not some Nazi utopias. When not totally implemented, connected cars are nearly useless.
FSD has been done since Andrej left. Tesla just needs gpu time to train the model… Lvl 5 will take Dojo
great response, keep it up
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FSD will have arrived when I am no longer required to keep my hands on the wheel and respond to are-you-paying-attention messages. Until then it is not FSD no matter how many hours someone may go without intervention
Who said it has arrived? Beta clearly says there is some work to do. But beyond Alpha. The demos done on YT shows good progress and continual improvement. I loved the discussion about using sentences to make sense of intersections. It's always the same. A sceptic (you!) puts a stake in the ground and then when it is passed they drive in another one. We all know that it has to be supervised while being improved. When a robotaxi is running will that satisfy you? Will you get in one? They are already operating at some airports. Move the stake please!
THat article look like it was partly written by GPT3... lot's of nonsense GPT3 would regurgitate... and if a competent human does not fix the false statements it end up looking like that one.
waymo co founder says similar things.
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The more technology required to achieve fsd means that computers just will never be as good a driver as a human.
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The text of the article proclaimed numerous times, from various people, including those "knocking" FSD that "Humans are NOT good drivers"
"Most accidents" caused by various sub-sets of *human* doing things they shouldn't be doing?
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Computers will be "different" but BETTER, increasingly as there are more such (predictable) vehicles, AND if (when) they talk to each other.
I'd like some more complete reaction to Hotz's views (directly, not as interpreted through someone else), as proclaimed verbosely in such videos as "George Hotz | Just Chatting | Tesla AI Day 2022 ** REACTION **"
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Go figure this might be his accepting defeat to TESLA ?
George Hotz have the same chances to make good run as I have against Usain Bolt on a track. In my opinion.
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How can it be a scam if I’m using it everyday? He could say it sucks or it falls short of the promise but a scam is a thing that is not what it seems, a fraud.
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It's TRUE and Eeelon will never DELIVER on his false promises of FSD
FSD should be illegal, there is no legislation and no ethic control on the AI. If your car kills someone, you have to be responsible for it? Or the company? Or no one?
With the deletion of the ultrasonic sensors, I am wondering if Tesla could have slipped in the high resolution front radar they had filed a patent on late last or early this year???
lol
Likely hd radar will be installed soon.
I think it’s just a patent developed during the process of ancillary FSD developments.
The best part is no part. - Elon Musk
They don't need it
Excellent Teaching
Seems like Mr. Hotz started out trying to write a technical treatise and slipped down into some very snarky jabs at all AI driving efforts. Not really worth reading but certainly worth debunking. Thanks Dr. KIA.
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