10 cores and 12 threads are impressive. Especially when you compare it to the N3150 with 4 cores and threads and much lower frequency. I still have such a mini PC with Linux Mint.
Thanks for this review! I have two theories for the massive 120w power supply: 1) reusing cheap laptop power supplies (which are also 19v) rather than designing new 60 or 80w units or 2) to prevent shut down during power spikes, which my 1M certainly has at some point during boot. It seems to draw more than 60w for a split second, which leads to my 65w usb-c power supply shutting down occasionally while booting up. MSI support downplays this issue and says they can't do anything about it, but still advertise the usb-c power port on their website. Do they believe people are going to buy a 100w usb-c charger for a system that uses 55w?
I agree with your take on this one, both the positives and negatives, and I've been looking forward to the review. However, $650 for the barebones is too much, given issues like the thermal throttling. It's too bad that the fan profile can't be adjusted in the BIOS, as given how quiet it is, it would be nice to see if ramping up the fans would have dealt with the heat enough. I know that MSI is assuming that the corporate market will pay their prices, and that's true... but only for systems with next-day on-site warranty service. Dell micro-minis may not be sexy, but I know that if we have a problem, there will be someone the next morning with all the possible spare parts needed, and that's worth a lot. Even if time were not an issue, I don't know any corp or research dept that's going to mail in a PC with data on it.
Help with the choice of a homelab. initially I considered cubi nuc 1m 100u, but you can get more for this money, and i began to consider 1) minisforum UH125 Pro 2) Beelink SEi14 3) GMKtec K9. which is better to choose from this? I like minisforum better, but one dude said there would be problems with the realtek 5Gb lan drivers and it doesn't work with Linux distributions
I like the ports. Four Type A ports with 10 Gb/s data transfer speeds, two HDMI 2.0 ports, two Type C Thunderbolt 4 ports, and two RJ45 port with 2.5Gb data transfer speeds for internet connection. Otherwise, the CPU isn't impressive for a mini-PC. I'd rather stick with the Intel NUC 13 Pro. Same ports and a better CPU (i7 1360P).
Good point. I tested the Cubi NUC with my Samsung TV which supports HDMI CEC and it turns the mini on and off with the remote control power button (or TV power button). Pretty cool
That lower power draw is good to see for the performance it can put out. But that lack of decent cooling is bad and from a major manufacturer too. Then you have the price, which offsets the savings on energy for a rather overpriced product.
If they didn't want to compete in raw power or pricing they could've at least done so in efficiency. There's not much incentive to buy this one barebones
Given the lower power, extra drive space and external button I'd say this is good server PC for a plex (or other home media) setup.
10 cores and 12 threads are impressive. Especially when you compare it to the N3150 with 4 cores and threads and much lower frequency. I still have such a mini PC with Linux Mint.
Awesome video bro it's very helpful I am buying this one .. by the way what was CTR of your recent video mini PC with a massive fan
I wish we had Skymont based N300 mini PCs and laptops with a body like the XPS 9500 or the Surface Pro 11.
Thanks for this review! I have two theories for the massive 120w power supply: 1) reusing cheap laptop power supplies (which are also 19v) rather than designing new 60 or 80w units or 2) to prevent shut down during power spikes, which my 1M certainly has at some point during boot. It seems to draw more than 60w for a split second, which leads to my 65w usb-c power supply shutting down occasionally while booting up. MSI support downplays this issue and says they can't do anything about it, but still advertise the usb-c power port on their website. Do they believe people are going to buy a 100w usb-c charger for a system that uses 55w?
Will you be testing the fanless version of Cubi featuring N100?
I agree with your take on this one, both the positives and negatives, and I've been looking forward to the review. However, $650 for the barebones is too much, given issues like the thermal throttling. It's too bad that the fan profile can't be adjusted in the BIOS, as given how quiet it is, it would be nice to see if ramping up the fans would have dealt with the heat enough. I know that MSI is assuming that the corporate market will pay their prices, and that's true... but only for systems with next-day on-site warranty service. Dell micro-minis may not be sexy, but I know that if we have a problem, there will be someone the next morning with all the possible spare parts needed, and that's worth a lot. Even if time were not an issue, I don't know any corp or research dept that's going to mail in a PC with data on it.
I need low temp computers like N100. Yes
Help with the choice of a homelab. initially I considered cubi nuc 1m 100u, but you can get more for this money, and i began to consider 1) minisforum UH125 Pro 2) Beelink SEi14 3) GMKtec K9.
which is better to choose from this? I like minisforum better, but one dude said there would be problems with the realtek 5Gb lan drivers and it doesn't work with Linux distributions
The 5Gb LAN not working with the UH125 Pro in Linux is in the review. Next video is SEI14
Australian price on Cubi NUC 1M Core 7 is way cheaper than US…A$899inc in AU…can’t believe that we beat US price again…on Cubi…both 5 and NUC.
WHY DID YOU SKIP THE UM790 PRO IN YOUR REVIEWS?
I wasn't sent one
Contributing to your mini review fund.
Thank you very much 🥰
Multi-core performance is so bad! I was not expecting that. Add to that the much higher temps and the price...I would pass.
Thanks for the review.
Need a review for UM890 Pro please
I like the ports. Four Type A ports with 10 Gb/s data transfer speeds, two HDMI 2.0 ports, two Type C Thunderbolt 4 ports, and two RJ45 port with 2.5Gb data transfer speeds for internet connection.
Otherwise, the CPU isn't impressive for a mini-PC. I'd rather stick with the Intel NUC 13 Pro. Same ports and a better CPU (i7 1360P).
The CEC support, does that mean it will turn on with newer TVs as well? Or jus MSI monitors?
Good point. I tested the Cubi NUC with my Samsung TV which supports HDMI CEC and it turns the mini on and off with the remote control power button (or TV power button). Pretty cool
@@Robtech CEC is huge for mini PCs that are connected to TVs. Especially if they can accept commands from the remote. Makes them great HTPCs.
How is this ultra low power!? Intel's page says: Maximum Turbo Power 55W!!! My intel PC stick with m3-6y30 (according to Intel) is 7 watts!!!
That lower power draw is good to see for the performance it can put out. But that lack of decent cooling is bad and from a major manufacturer too. Then you have the price, which offsets the savings on energy for a rather overpriced product.
If they didn't want to compete in raw power or pricing they could've at least done so in efficiency. There's not much incentive to buy this one barebones
the 2.5 hdd is 7mm or 15 mm?
7mm only
Are the reddish-brown spots on the bottom plate rust? at 4:45 timing
I would wager that those are weld or solder points that attach the mesh to the case.
Looks like paint residue. It's not rust coloured off camera, more red