The French Berthier carbine - an amazing piece of WWI history!
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The French adopted the Berthier in the 1890's as a possible replacement for the 1886 Lebel rifle. It didn't take long for the once forward thinking Lebel to become obsolete with the advent of the internal box magazine.
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were is the white flag ?
It's pronounced Mon-licker, not man-licher! Get it right!
@@jameljay2183 Don't you mean yellow flag?...
@@tommystone8585 No no , the surrend flag !
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I bought one of these a few years ago, there was a note in the stock that said
Lt. Paul Wright
French Foreign Legion
December 24th 1910
Sahara Desert
Cameron McCrea that's pretty awesome if only you knew the travels that rifle has been on
I would be so incredibly excited if I ever found a note or something with my old surplus guns. Like if I took a buttplate off and found a note I'd be speechless. That is so cool.
@boris boris If it's really the foreign legion why couldn't it be in english?
@boris boris i don't know, it could be possible, maybe its a lie but maybe its not, and we won't ever know, nothing to be angry at
@@neveryatis5019 Maybe an Uk Soldier helps the French army? in WW1 the fight toghter and both use the Berthier.
Is Ian lurking in the woods behind you?
BONES 1x2 hahaha he needs to be careful ian loves french weapons he might swipe it
He's gonna sneak onto Tim's range later and steal the leftover 8mm Lebel casings.
If he was , he would have jumped out of the bushes and slapped his forward assist for calling it a MannliCHer.
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Sorry budy need to reload for my weird french early stuff
Old firearms have such an interesting history and story to tell. Bring 'em on!!
I love the old mil surps. My favorite kind of rifles to collect and shoot. When I can afford the ammo
i have 5 milsurp rifles and 1 milsurp pistol
Yup - Love the old "wood and steel" rifles!
At $2.50 a shot on the average for the mil surps it limits the amount of enjoyment , but look at the bright side it keeps you from shooting out the barrels .
gun fisher The answer: You gotta roll your own (AKA: Reload)
Ian Macullum-ing intensifies
Yes, more of these.
And I suspect that Ian McCollum would agree, especially with French rifles.
Yes, I like learning more about the older generation guns it is interesting.
Actually having a "pregnant guppy" version of this carbine that doesn't have the 1916 conversion is pretty cool. The history of the Berthier is pretty much backward from any other rifle developed since the French always thought an autoloader was less than a decade away and they didn't want to invest heavily in something they thought would soon be obsolete. It started out as a calvary carbine, then the long rifle was made and sent to the colonies since it was cheaper to produce and easier to maintain than the Lebel, and finally produced en masse during the war after French soldiers saw the Senegalese colonials actually had superior rifles to them. Berthier did find the Goldilocks with the clip... The German commission rifle clips were too flimsy and the Austrian Mannlicher clips were too expensive. The spring steel clip (same process later used in the US for the Garand clip) was simple to make and cost a half penny each to produce.
The pregnant stock version takes 5rd clips right?
Merci pour cette très belle présentation du Berthier ! Respect à nos anciens … From FRANCE 👍
I love how the Berthier's En-Bloc clip makes dinging noises as it hits the ground, just like with the Garand's.
" excited Ian noises" 😉
Hi Spicy, what are you doing over here ? I'm a sub of yours for the motovlogs. Cheers dude 👍
Been here for years 👍
I like some of the new stuff well enough, but I really love the history the old stuff. These were two carbines that I had never heard of before.
Watching you shoot a Berthier for almost half an hour was surprisingly enjoyable. There's something about the sound of someone running an old bolt gun that brings a smile to my face. Very nice video.
Thanks for being maybe the only gun tuber not pushing olights all damn week.
Thank you so much for the video and info on the Berthier! My grandfather served in WW2 and brought home one of the conversion models in his duffel bag. No import stamps here either! :) It is an important link to his military service and experience in the European theater and I appreciate ownership of this little piece of of history. You can imagine my surprise and delight to see you feature and shoot this French classic for your audience, but especially for the personal connection I have with this firearm. It was the very rifle that he used to teach me as a young man how to handle, maintain and respect firearms. With that said, bravo Tim on highlighting this particular rifle, and keep the excellent channel content coming!
Mytho.
Bring the old, love the History.
I love seeing the old guns...
Those are Wehrmacht soldiers with the Mle.M16 btw.
True that. I did a double take when I saw the uniforms and had to go back and look again.
Love seeing these older rifles.
Finally a video that isn't about olight thanks Tim for not falling into their trap
I know right?
It's fuckin' olight and hellcat week or something.
Things are made in Communist China...
I love seeing both the old and new. Old for the history and see where the backbone of modern rifles today came from and the New to see what all is out there and how old technology is or isn't used today
Love the historical vids Tim. Love the mix of old and new especially the lesser known rifles like these. Never seen them before so thoroughly enjoyed this one!
I love old guns just as much as new ones
Hey mac! Just dripping a comment! I love the channel and I love everything you do for the 2a community. I am definitely one of the ones that like the newer firearms but you know it is nice to see where it all started and the evolution of firearms. Firearms have an amazing history and there are certainly alot of interesting ones that never caught on as forgotten weapons shows. Thank you for everything you do and all of the amazing information and content you provide to we the people. Sic semper tyranis my friend.
Great content ! Please keep the mix between old and new , it's history after all , learning the past to understand how we achieved what we have nowadays . Very beautiful
Thanks for another great look at historical military arms :D These firearms of the world wars are what got me into guns in the first place!
Honestly, I find these old guns more interesting, please Tim, show them all!
Thank you sir! I love learning about these old war horses! Please keep them coming.
This feels just like going shooting without leaving the house, very nice. Ive always wondered what that shell could do in a modern rifle even an ackly imp version. Its just so big to start with, theres potential there. I had a Remington Berthier M1907/15 sporter. The Remington Berthier is notorious for oversized chambers & cracked recievers, as it turns out mine had both. I had been shooting it with cracked rcvr unknowingly , then sold it to a friend, he showed me the crack, u had to look real close but there it was on the bottom. He gave me the cracked rcvr back, i gave him a M1916 replacement carb. They were only around $50. I still have a M1886/93 & reload for it😊
I enjoy seeing the older firearms as well. Keep up the good work.
Thank you for this video . I have my grandfather's, but have never shot it. I don't have the clips or amo . Now I know what to look for.
I believe you should flip the sight over and use the battle sight on the underside. It should be a 250 meter zero
Absolutely love the old gun videos!!!
love seeing the old milsurps and learning the history of the weapons, thanks tim and hope jason is feeling better
I enjoy your coverage of historic guns. Thank you!
I enjoy your videos on classic firearms. Thanks for making them!
If they are well made clips they are probably from av ballistics in australia. He makes excellent repros with modern high quality steel.
Been feeding them into my berthier forestry carbine for a while.
Old, new, love them both, keep em coming.
I love the old guns to me its the best content simply because the news guns everyone reviews an there are tons of videos to get that info from. The old guns we dont have the surplus of videos so I pick old guns as my favorite videos
I love the old mil surp. I have a M1903A3. Love those old guns.
Really enjoy the old guns and rifles keep doing them.
I always watch the videos of the milsurps being fired first. I have several Enfield no1mk3 bare receivers that I saved from becoming scrap. I've got some of them pieced together and am looking forward to trying them out. Keep up the good work, I really enjoy your videos.
I like seeing the videos of the older guns
I really enjoy your mil surplus videos. My favorite are the carbines and I would love to have a collection of them but all I own in that realm is a 1891 Argentine Mauser. thanks so much.
Yes please keep up with the old and new. I like to see the history of the older firearms.
Please continue doing these vids. Love the historical perspective.
Love the vids of the old milsurps, Tim! Keep featuring them! Everybody reviews the new stuff but not too many of you out there filming older firearms.
Well done,
I have the 1892 Artillery Musketoon, it is a pleasure to shoot with reduced Trailboss load and cast bullets.
Great video on the French Lebel: Ilove old military weapons Thanks
Love the old milsurp, keep it coming. The more unique/stranger, the better.
Love the surplus firearms! Keep em coming!
Gotta say Tim, I love it when you break out the old milsurps. They are my bread and butter.
I love to see the old war horses, especially in the hands of someone who understands they were made to be used not set in a safe. I'm actually gonna try and hunt with my 1919 refurb of a mle1982 carbine this year and hopefully bag something with it.
Love the mil surps. Keep up the good work.
I love the old military fire arms videos
Great Video, keep those old gun videos coming!
I like watching videos on old guns.
Mix is best. Old n new 👍
Great video Tim, more of the old stuff please 👍
A mix of old and new is great. You get to see what's going on today, and the experiments that led to those innovations.
Love the history mixed with modern
What a cool gun... Thanks mac
The sights on the MLe 1916 were for course application in both day and night. The 'v' is actually for the application of radium paint. On the edges of the rear 'V' you will notice two dimples that are also for that same application. One of the first integral night sight designs.
Awesome video ! I’m surprised Tim didn’t forget the enbloc clips for the rifles.
The 5 round conversions were largely done after ww1. The 1886/93/35 lebel carbines were one of the common rifles issued to volksturm at the end of ww2.
I tell everyone that I have an M16, then I show the a picture of the MLE M16 receiver stamp. 5 shot , very little armory work, not chamber reamed , matching numbers. I love shooting this gun but it does have heavy recoil. Shoots reloads a whole lot better than the PPU. Good to know the 3 round clips work, I'll have to get some . 5 rounders are almost impossible to get without getting screwed on the price when you can find them. Love the old guns. Yours runs pretty good. Thanks for all the good info.
Would love to see more of the old rifles you got in the collection!
@Military Arrms Channel, The Mle1916 front sight was designed for the realities of trench warfare. It was designed for quick target shots at close to mid - range. Think of them as a grandfather to combat pistol sights only on a rifle. From Point blank trench raid. To repelling a trench attack at night to mid range combat 150 to 250 yards. The notch in the front sight was strictly for use in cases of when precise long range shots might be necessary. Forgotten weapons videos on the Mle1916
are an excellent reference. Bloke on the range has an excellent video as well.
So I guessed right. 😀👍
Very interesting. I have a Berthier carbine that dad brought back from WWII from the time he was in France. He thought it was a newer model. However, it will not accept a 5 round clip and it is marked as 1898. Like your older one, it has an open oval shaped hole for ejecting the clip and no top wood. However, it does have the notched front sight, rather than the blade front sight. Now I know I need to find a 3 round clip, if I can ever find more ammo. I've been told the company in Eastern Europe that was making it discontinued it a couple of years ago.
Tim, love the old stuff.
Love history. Thanks for the video.
Nice, Simulator to my 6.5 x 53R Dutch. Make the brass from 303 Brit. Fun to shoot. It's 100 years old.
I remember an old Mannlicher Carcono carbine I had in the 6.5 configuration. That thing was finicky as hell and could not hold any sort of zero. That was when it would fire! At least these French rifles seem to fire pretty well. I am still sorry for the guy that bought my rifle, which was nothing but wall hanger. And I did explain all of the problems prior to the sale.
Most definitely cool as hell! I love old military rifles! Arisaka next, or again lol.
French have always had nice rifles.
Well, sadly, not any more ...
Well yes .... but actually no!
Jk I love French ordinance
Yes, only dropped once.
I wouldn't say that. Some of their machine guns had the worst design ever
Ron Shekelson they tended to adopt things a little too quickly so it would be extremely good the day it came out but outdated a few years later. For example the lebel was the first smokeless powder rifle but the magazine was outdated a few years later even the lebel cartridge was a necked down 11mm black powder down to 8mm a relic a decade later because it was the first big smokeless cartridge ever produced.
Hoped you'd talk about 8x51 ballistics, looks like a meaty cartridge
Definitely like the older/odd stuff. 90s/80s pre ban and older. Milsurps are awesome. It gets boring to watch just ANOTHER AR video all the time, as if there aren't enough of those already lol
Love the old mil-surp stuff!
My first rifle i hunted with this for about ten years and it took lots of game and kept the pot full. It took everything and took it well with one shot i paid 39.00 in 1970 a lot of money for a 14 yr old kid in the state of Alaska
Exerlent loved it way to go all the best john
That's a cool rifle! Thanks for the video on it.
Cool thanks now i want one.
Isn't the battle sight configuration on these rifles with the sight flipped forward?
Love old surplus and weird guns more than the modern stuff
Those are really neat rifles - thanks for doing a video on them! I have a Steyr M95 Carbine (In 8X56r) I nicknamed it: The Ass-Kicker!
Love the Old ones
I like your video's on the "latest n greatest" of firearms because you give your honest opinion. But i also enjoy the history and designs that led to the newest technology. Just my ll cents.
Love the old guns
More like this please
Love the old mil surp videos.
Love the old stuff
I tagged the thumbs up for a total of 556. I’m on a roll today!
Got a soft spot for old mil-surps, carbines in particular. 6.5 carcano is the only one I've actually got my hands on though. Some time in her life she got bubba'd up a bit but she still stacks those rounds.
I love the bolt action military service rifles....one day I'll start collecting
Yeah, like to see them old boom sticks. Keep it up 👍🏻
Inherited one of these from my grandpa. Long barrel. Having a hard time finding ammo and enbloc for it In my area. Sweet rifle though and cool video!
I like the old warhorses better than the new stuff. New stuff once in a while is o.k., but the history and the toughness of the old stuff is just more interesting to me.
By the way, about the de-cocker rather than a safety, French doctrine at the time was to carry rifles with an empty chamber, so essentially the fact that you could slip while de-cocking the carbine is irrelevant since they weren’t use in that way.
"Aim it to the left a little low, son, aim it to the left a little low. 'Cause the ol' iron sights fire high and to the right, so aim it to left a little low." -Corb Lund