This was awesome Jared! So stoked you were able to get in touch with Jon, Devin and the whole crew over at Suntour. They are good people who support the sport and love watching people get out and ride. It was fun hearing your thoughts on it too, Its crazy to think that Suntour has won two Redbull Rampages with Kurt Sorge, The olympics with Tom Pidcock, World Cup Downhill Overall with Tracy Hannah, and yet it still hasn't really broken through that budget oriented perception. I honestly was so stoked to hear they set you up, i think having more people like yourself give it a shot will really make a big difference with perception. Great job on the video too!
Yeah absolutely! It’s definitely wild how many professional athletes run their kit and it’s overlooked…but here’s to playing my part in slowly changing that perception. Huge thanks for all your help in the endeavor. Teamwork makes the dream work! 🫡
I recently made the switch to SR Suntour, and I was impressed. My full suspension, I have a zeron coil and edge plus. I'm about to put the durolux 36 on my growler. I'm never going back to Rockshox or Fox.
Suntour factory produces DVO's components and I figured they'd be sharing a bit of tech. That triair is a rebranded DVO topaz 3 with different colored anodizing on the knobs. Great shock!
I've got an Auron 35 and a very unique shock (not the Tri Air) just waiting for a project. Very nice quality. Suntour is very underrated on the higher end. They're more common in Europe and Asia. Here in the States we're a little too snobby about our MTB. People would rather have a Judy than a Durolux. 😂
@@JaredRMorganHello, I'm from Brazil and I'm looking for a new suspension to replace my Rockshox 35 Silver TK. Would Suntour Aion OR Suntour Durolux be a good option?!
I've been a grassroots ambassador for SR Suntour since 2020 and agree with everything you are saying! I've had the Auron, Durolux, Durolux EQ and Tri-Air and they all perform flawlessly! I recommend them to everyone looking for a great suspension setup! And the fact they are usually a better value than the big names makes it an even easier decision. Plus they are the easiest to maintain and work on in my opinion! Great video and shout out to SR Suntour!
Heck yeah man that’s awesome to hear you’ve had such a positive experience. It definitely is the best for folks who like a solid spec per dollar and also like to wrench on their own bikes. I look forward to spending more time aboard their offerings. 👌
The part about the maintenance is so true. I'm servicing my Fox 38, lyrik ultimate and Aion myself and the aion is by far the most convenient and clean job.
Yeah that matters a bunch to me personally. I can’t tell you how many times oil has spilled on things I didn’t want it to go. No matter how careful I am! 😂
I'm a heavy rider (127 kg / 279 lb with kit) and my Durolux 36 more than deals with my heft, even on harsh downhills and drops. Heavy riders know the feeling of blowing through travel, having high air spring pressures leading to high rebound damping settings, and the SR Suntour Durolux 36 resolved this issue for me. My fork is stiff and responsive under my weight, and running 2 of the 3 volume spacers makes it supple on top and supportive further through the travel. Importantly, I run the right pressure for the intended sag, meaning I don't need to use overkill rebound damping to counteract the air spring pressure as on some other forks. No overpressure worries here. The fork is surprisingly light (I was VERY surprised on how light the lowers alone are when I was changing travel spacers to 170 mm) and with all the adjustability it is very pedal-friendly for the travel. I'd run SR Suntour on any bike, just need to select the right model for the application. SR Suntour if course has budget forks too, but that simply means those are intended for lighter duty / non-competition applications, thus available at even lower price points while maintaining high build quality. Top tier product with a vast range for the right application.
That’s an awesome testimonial. I know exactly what you mean, as I’m a bit heavier than average. At one point I was 220 on a bike with a RS Recon and I had to over-inflate the heck out of it to keep it from bottoming out constantly thus losing all the suppleness at the top. Great that the durolux was able to sort that problem out for you. If I could, I’d put Suntour on all my bikes. Maybe one day!
SR Suntour produced a lot of the insides of several big name brands like Marzzochi since the 2000's. My oppininion on them changed when I found this out while servicing my original Z1 Bomber.
Yeah and as I mentioned in the video they make suspension for other brands including one particular brand that I’ve had people tell me I should run instead of Suntour. 😂 if only they knew.
Even their cheap stuff like old Raidons and Epixons were pretty good, I remember getting one for forty bucks and it did admirably for a solid few years The only ones to avoid are XCM and XCT, but even then they allow cheaper hardtails to exist in the first place
Yeah it’s a super unfair thought process I think many of us riders are or were guilty of at some point. They definitely make some crazy good parts! Thanks for watching!
Welcome to the Suntour club. 😁😁😆 I own an XCR32 and couldn't be happier with my purchase. I'll definitely upgrade my AOY-36RC to a Raidon LO-R when I get the money. Dependable parts, and serviceable parts at an affordable price. Can't beat that.
I've two sets of their 36 Durolux RC2 forks and rate them. Note I've run and am running Lyriks and a set of Fox 38s too. The Suntour forks are great, and super easy to work on. Just note the A2C on the Durolux is about 10mm longer than other brands so it might limit the travel you can fit on your bike. The only issue is having to explain it to people who think Fox and Rockshox are the only players in town.
Ahhh didn’t realize that about the A2C thanks for bringing that point up! And yeah not so much on this video, but on tiktok when I mentioned this project I got some resistance from the Fox and RS folks. They assumed i had never ridden their stuff, when in reality it’s primarily all I had ridden prior. Lol!
It was a pleasure meeting you on the trail today. Turns out it was your video that I watched! I watched it the day it was released it seems. Good content, keep up the good work!
That’s so rad man! Pleasure meeting you too! I appreciate the love. Super sweet bike you got. If you like polygon content make sure to check out the bikes online channel, I’m their presenter. 🫡
SR Suntour is criminally underrated. They make good suspension products for a lower price conpared to the competition. I personally run an older generation durolux 36. With a bit of tweaking you can make suntour forks as sensitive to small bumps as the competition...
@Cure Cycling they're a bit easier to service compared to other forks. But in my case, the parts are a bit harder to get since no one ia carrying them locally where I'm at. The thing i did to get my durolux feeling smooth is to put a bit of fork oil in the lowers. Just 5ml of the stuff in each leg. Adjust rebound, and compression as needed depending on the oil used...
While ago after seen many videos of Kyle and April I decided to get the suntour suspension on my new bike. It's a Durolux 36 R2C2 and the Triair. It is really good. Had to beat price point and more importantly, ride really well. With me the durolux rides higher in its travel and fell supply and supportive. Can't recommend enough. And other fact for those who race, the Olympic XCO champion uses the Suntour fork And shock.
That’s awesome that you felt similarly. I love my new setup, and yeah Kyle was telling me a list of athletes winning running Suntour products, so the proof is certainly in the pudding!
You're absolutely right! Although I never had brand bias, I see most other riders do. On my last build I used an Aion 35, not even top spec, but I'd say the most basic of the high end stuff and am perfectly happy with it. That bike and that fork will stay forever together 🙂 Friends have tested it and ask what mods have I done because it feels amazing but it's perfectly stock. In fact a friend of mine got a Durolux 36 after testing mine 😎 And as you mention, the design doesn't require a lot of maintenance. Win-Win!
Yeah the Aion seems like such a solid fork. I’d like to get one to test on one of my other bikes soon. But YES, I wrench on my bikes myself so it’s a huge bonus for ease of maintenance.
I would definitely like to try higher end SR Suntour suspension 👍my main concern with most suspension is performance degradation. I've noticed my Fox Float X2 degrades quickly. When they say "service every 50 hours" they really mean it. A fresh X2 feels incredible. A well used X2 feels dead and harsh. I've experienced the same feeling with Rockshox Forks... but they can go 6 months or so without feeling like they're loosing performance. I wonder how long SR Suntour can go without a service? I know... I should be servicing my suspension more often 😂
Yeah the X2 is notorious for that. As far as SR Suntour and servicing, I picked both Kyle and Jon's brains very heavily on this topic. According to the guys, they don't EVER change the seals and wipers on the forks, but they do use the injection ports on the fork legs to push some fresh oil directly onto the foam wipers from time to time. Also an occasional drop of the legs to clean the foam wipers and load the rubber seals with slick honey would probably be advisable, but all in all the forks are virtually service free in comparison to competitors. The shock is similar, but dropping the air can and giving it a good slick honey treatment will help it stay moving smooth as well. I too was previously a Rockshox fan mainly, but their service intervals are the shortest...so that got annoying sometimes.
I haven't opened my Durolux in like 2 years and it felt even better when I finally figured out how suspension setup works lol. Dropped the sag down to 30%, opened up the compression and slowed down the rebound. Voila, magic carpet unlocked.
My Suntour hasn't been opened since I set the travel and volume spacers, like 2 years? All I need to do is put a drop of silicon oil in the seals every time I wash it and it feels like new all the time 👍
I had a Durolux 36 and it was awesome! What they say about that special grease in the bushings though, its questionable. If you add 10ml of oil to the lowers it runs even smoother.
I sold my DPX2 to get a Super Deluxe RC2T Coil. It isn't available rn, so a friend of mine lent me a TriAir 3CR. That thing honestly rides better than the DPX2 lol. Turns out the TriAir is basically a DVO Topaz with a bladder instead of an IFP in the piggyback.
As I’ve clarified a few times now, I was mainly referencing suspension. Some shocks and forks make assorted clunks or even squish noises, and the suspension on this bike is silent. Also no creaks. Hubs on the other can be loud, because a loud hub falls under normal. Thanks!
I have Suntour XCR 32 Air for casual riding in forest. Easy to service, but lack of seal kits and dumper is sealed cartridge, that can not be opened. Because of that changed it to old RS SID. All parts are servicible.
XFusion is another brand that's less common. They make nice stuff as well! Also, the XCM30 is not a good example of what SR Suntour can do at the top level. Try a Durolux and report back!
Plus SR Suntour has an upgrade problem with their forks (and maybe other products) I plan to utilize this when I get my Fezzari hardtail, upgrade the budget SR to higher end one
I’m riding a hardtail Rocky Mountain Growler w a SRS Raidon 34 Air and was considering upgrading but wonder if I’m going sideways instead of up after watching this. I ride dry trails in Arizona and weigh 190 w gear. Love to hear your thoughts! Great channel btw
To be honest even the cheap coil forks by suntour are very good in a way. If you think about it, what other cheap fork would you put on a cheap beginner bike? It has to be reliable and dumb-proof. There are not many options. Yeah it is heavy and it works just a little. But it is still the best in its segment.
I have ns bikes enduro bike and when my fox fork and shock reached the end of its life I purchased the durolux and tri air, 2 years on and never disappointed… they are sooooo underrated it’s actually quite sad
@@alimantado373 not really dude it's lighter then my rockshox domain, it wasn't as light as my fox fork however my fox fork also broke in 2 months, so I'll take a bit of extra weight for the durability
I've always been a fan of Suntour as how their products have such a good price to performance ratio. I came from an XCR Coil fork and upgraded to the Epixon Airfork and the difference is night and day. The thing about their cheap lineup (XCT, XCM, XCR) is that they use plastic bushings which tend to wear overtime which makes the performance not that consistent but you literally get what you pay for because once I upgraded to their better fork (Epixon), everything feels so much smoother and more stiff. Although they don't need bath oils, you could actually get away with 10cc of oil on the lowers, I do that as the prices of the "correct" grease here in the Philippines is just to much for me and I always have oils in stock from our car's oil change (5w30 synthetic oil btw lol).
Fox 36 is a great fork. However, the durolux suits me better, bc I think it’s damped better and certainly easier to work on. Not to mention it costs significantly less for consumers. If you’re looking to try something new, I recommend it.
Wow, I never thought about running Suntour yet, maybe on my next bike I'll get it! Glad you made a vid on it. But otherwise, it has been a while, how's it going?
Was debating on rockshox recon or doing the replacement program for my XCT coil shock that came on my ozark trail ridge this video just made my mind up 🤘🫶💪👍🏻 just not sure what form would be a good replacement.
@@JaredRMorgan I did, on both points. What have you enjoyed most about your AT7? Have you done any other work besides suspension? I swapped in a Dissector at the rear to reduce weight and rolling resistance, and installed an XT shifter. I'm gonna keep the Yari and install a 2.1 Charger damper I think.
@@karlkrause6679 I pretty much changed every part on mine, but the bike is pretty dang solid out of the box. A custom wheel set can really drop some lbs and make it feel more spritely!
@@JaredRMorgan That'll be down the road or else if I mash my rims beyond repair. If I had my druthers, I'd have one set of rims shod with some faster rolling trail tires and the other with some stickier, burlier rubber. I've spent enough $$$ to get some looks of disapproval from my better half so I'm pumping the brakes a bit right now 🤣 But my Charger 2.1 should be here tomorrow so I got that going for me! Cheers!
I had a Suntour product and emailed the company with no response (about 5 years ago). Since then, I got a new bike with Fox suspension and when I reached out to Fox, they answered almost immediately and when I called Fox, they were awesome and very helpful. I'm sure Suntour products are great, but I will always stay with companies with great customer service like Fox and Raceface.
We are all products of our experiences as they say, and your experience with fox sounds a lot like my experience with SR Suntour. Fox does make a good product as well.
I noticed SR Suntour making high end suspension when I saw Tom Isted and Sam Reynolds riding them. Isted is competing at Crankworx and Sam Reynolds runs and rides at Darkfest with them. No way any of us are going to punish the forks and shocks as much as they do.
Normally inside the lower leg of a suspension fork there is a pool of loose oil. When you do a lower service and separate the fork upper from the fork lower, this oil pours out. No matter how clean you try to be, it still ends up in places you don’t want it. Suntour doesn’t use bath oils, so no mess!
How about a video about how updating your bikes suspension: How can you tell how to get compatible parts, what tools do you need if you want to install yourself, something else?
All of my beginner bikes had SR Suntour forks. I would gladly buy any product regardless of name, if I get performance for a decent price. My only issue is the name to me says cheap. I would come out with a SR Protour just to provide some distance between the higher end products and the lower end stuff.
I get what you’re saying, and through this video I’m trying to help out that perception to rest. The shimano comparison is a great argument in support of that.
Man I say something: Have tested and owned Marzocchi, Fox and others... My Xc bike uses a fork brazilian made: Proshock, I now may sounds cheap and low quallity, but I have the top quality Proshock and I dont exchange for a Fox, Manitou or other. The torcional and reading of terrain it's increadeable. I have learn someting: best suspension it's that who works for you.
😂 dude. You'll be surprised how durable their cheap forks. I have a raidon 32 non boost in 27.5, I am 100kg and it's been a year w/o any maintenance, it's still as smooth as day one. I already had an accident with it but it wasn't damaged even after that
@@SimonBauer7I think that's what happens when the company doesn't care about the weight It's heavier than the competition and it feels unusual reliable
i think sr suntor are very underrated for the cost to performance ratio some suspensions cost more than an entire frame and top end drive train i think the coil forks aren’t amazing but for a disc brake suspension fork it is a reliable and cheap option for any budget mountain bike build and the air forks are really pretty good for the cost i personally run an older rockshox reba but i really don't see much difference between that and a properly serviced suntor xcr i really think the bad reputation comes that half of the mountain bike community that are almost like posers as they become more obsessed with expensive gear and expensive bikes than actually riding those bikes onto trails
You’re speaking a lot of truth here. I was once one of those part snob “posers” who wasn’t getting out to ride much. The more I ride and the better I get the less I care about what brands are on my bike. I just want stuff that works and keeps up with my demands…& this suspension kills it!
I think that one of the biggest problems with some suspension companies just like SR Suntour is that they dont offer YOU the rider the option of servicing the suspension yourself, i serviced my fox suspension for the last 3 years without problems, fox has every turorial on every service, thats what i am looking for when buying suspension from any brand
SR Suntour definitely gives you the option of self service. The kits are available on the shop website, and as mentioned in the videos there’s no bath oils so it’s just drop legs, clean, swap bushings and wipers, lube up, reassemble. I will agree though that fox has a ton of write ups and manuals available across the internet.
@@JaredRMorgan those seal kits are just for a lower leg service, which is the most basic service you can do on a fork, try servicing a damper of a sr suntour fork, yeah good luck, no seal kits no tutorials no manuals nothing, you dont even know what oil the damper takes. Try searching SR Suntour R2C2(their best damper) service and see what you find, you will find nothing
What's the pike select equivalent offering from suntour? I currently have a cheap xcr32 120mm and I cannot compress the fork more than half anymore..even with all the air out. Negative spring is a coil spring. I guess I wrecked the damper when I put in some foam rings in the lowers and added some oil to get a plushier feel. Does the higher end stuff also come with a non serviceable damper?
If you're in the US, they have that fork on sale. Look at the Aion 35 Evo boost. I'd say that's going to be a pike select competitor. As you get into the higher range, the damper is serviceable. I believe the Aion 35 Evo boost has the serviceable PCS damper, but I'd have to double check. I know my Durolux 36 has the serviceable PCS damper.
yeah just double checked. That Aion 35 has a serviceable PCS. I think the lower spec Zeron has the disposable damper. Here's the fork: www.srsuntour.us/collections/forks/products/aion35-evo-boost-lo-r-pcs-15qlc-29
I ride a RUX 38 R2C2 of 2023 on my DH bike, I admit that is a very good suspension. But I don't know why, every 4-5 downhill, I need to purge it with the grease nipples, if not the fork become very hard, stuck... If Anyone can tell me that is normal or not ?
SR Suntour needs to split off their higher end products into a different brand so that people don't associate their higher end products with a cheap brand name. Tektro -> TRP, Marzocchi -> Fox, CST -> Maxxis.
@@randomdudeontheinternet4389 You're implying DVO is owned by Suntour? I don't see a source for that anywhere, it says they're a California based company.
You must be referring to the fact that they're both made in the same factory. "In short, the only real connection between the two suspension companies is that their components are made under the same roof. In every other way, they are direct competitors."
@@JesseIkawa Actually not really. They are not literally under the same ownership. However Suntour does outsource quite a bit of research and development to DVO in exchange for manufacturing capabilities and access to parts produced by Suntour.
I have mixed feelings about them, I work as a bike mechanic for Merida and we put these higher end ones on our e-bikes. I don't know if it's the issue only with the ones going equipped on bikes, but they often come without any oil in the lower legs, causing the uppers to get destroyed in about 6 months and the fork performing poorly. Sometimes, they don't even have foam rings at the dust seals... We never had problems with the shocks, but the forks often times don't last and get warrantied. Also, conveniently for suntour, the warranty for the bushings and seals is only 6 months. meaning most of the warranties we try to claim get rejected.
They don’t use bath oils in their lowers by design. They also use a black high density wiper rather than the normal squishy foam so it can look like there is no rings, but there are. With regular maintenance, which is quite minimal, my fork has had no issues. A lower service takes no time as it’s just a quick wipe down and then some grease.
I believe your fork works fine, you are person who thinkers with his bike a lot, you do the service yourself. But majority of the people will not, no matter how simple it is. I think, because they are not using oil for some reason, the grease just moves away from where it needs to be and without replying it often enough, your fork then runs dry and destroys the uppers. I believe that with following the service intervals they can work well, but majority of people get their bikes checked once before season and that's it. I have sample size of many things that go through our shop, and I can tell you that Suntour haves the most fatal failures. (not counting the super cheap stuff they make, that will be unfair)
I don’t have enough time on ohlins or EXT….The Suntour kit is very comparable to my pike and lyrik ultimates of the past, but not overdamped like a fox grip 2. That’s as elaborate as I can be given my personal experiences.
Today I ride a latest model cannondale scalpel but I am looking for something else with a traditional fork, everyone is valling me crazy If i say I want a suntour axon werx 34 but this video makes me sure to just buy a new frameset and putting that fork in.
Not enough sun your being specced on factory bikes! Needs more exposure. My problem with suntour is there is just no support for parts or technical service specs and instructions, atleast in Australia anyway. I love my aion35, such a plush and stuff fork
In the US all the service kits are plentiful on their website. & thankfully more bikes are being specced with their kit so folks can give it a run. Thanks for watching!
Hello Just wanna ask if I can use this Fork because I have one Can I use it on Giant Stance 29 2 2022-2023 model? I am using 140mm as for now. I want to use my SR Suntour Durolux 160mm Travel.
@@JaredRMorgan Thank you so much I will just adjust my air pressure adjust the sag. I will just run 65 or 70 psi so I will not bottom out and my frame will not be stress out... Thanks A lot
For sure! I was picking the teams brain and asking when I should replace seals and wipers for example, and they’re like “basically never if you keep it clean and lubed up.” 😂🤘
I don't know anyone who rides this suspension that had to pay for it with their own money. Every one who runs it is either a Suntour sponsored athlete, or a media/influencer type who was comped the product to ride & review. I have no doubt it works well - but still has a stigma that it needs to overcome. They should do what Tektro did with TRP and brand their higher end stuff separately from their entry level components. Shimano has big enough market share to do whatever they heck they want. Suntour does not, and neither did Tektro - so they introduced TRP and most people consider that stuff high-end boutique stuff.
Part of the bias against them is due to rarely seeing any of their high end stuff specked on bikes. The only stuff most of the public is familiar with is the low end stuff, so people think the brand is “crap”
Yeah I understand that. Fortunately as mentioned in the video, all of the new polygon E-bikes are going to be Suntour equipped so it’ll be a bigger topic of discussion soon. Slowly but surely, I think the perception can be molded into something more realistic.
@Cure Cycling I have had the orignal fox DPS, an X2 and now the tri air on my Polygon N7, the tri air is the best. I love the ease of the climb switch. I ride 80% of the time in the middle firm position. Only full soft for decents, as I find it a bit sloppy for peddle performance on general trails.
You are aware that a sag band is meant for measuring sag right? Set the suspension up before hitting the trails, then make adjustments depending on feel, not sag bands.
@@JaredRMorgan going from DVO to suntour and within 2 small features you're saying "oh this feels good" tells me all I need to know about how much you know and how credible your information is. That's your channel hidden from my feed ya melt.
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This was awesome Jared! So stoked you were able to get in touch with Jon, Devin and the whole crew over at Suntour. They are good people who support the sport and love watching people get out and ride. It was fun hearing your thoughts on it too, Its crazy to think that Suntour has won two Redbull Rampages with Kurt Sorge, The olympics with Tom Pidcock, World Cup Downhill Overall with Tracy Hannah, and yet it still hasn't really broken through that budget oriented perception. I honestly was so stoked to hear they set you up, i think having more people like yourself give it a shot will really make a big difference with perception. Great job on the video too!
Yeah absolutely! It’s definitely wild how many professional athletes run their kit and it’s overlooked…but here’s to playing my part in slowly changing that perception. Huge thanks for all your help in the endeavor. Teamwork makes the dream work! 🫡
Also Tom Isted rides suntour and just done 130 foot back flip on them
I recently made the switch to SR Suntour, and I was impressed. My full suspension, I have a zeron coil and edge plus. I'm about to put the durolux 36 on my growler. I'm never going back to Rockshox or Fox.
Suntour factory produces DVO's components and I figured they'd be sharing a bit of tech. That triair is a rebranded DVO topaz 3 with different colored anodizing on the knobs. Great shock!
Nailed it! And yeah it is a really nice shock. Tons of adjustability with their positive and negative volume bands.
They're similar but the DVO uses an air bladder instead of an IFP.
I've got an Auron 35 and a very unique shock (not the Tri Air) just waiting for a project. Very nice quality. Suntour is very underrated on the higher end. They're more common in Europe and Asia. Here in the States we're a little too snobby about our MTB. People would rather have a Judy than a Durolux. 😂
So true! Today i got back on a bike with a fox 34 and I was really missing my durolux. If only they knew better…lmao!
@@JaredRMorgan Just means better deals for you and me! 😃
I ride on a judy bc that's all I can afford, but man I would like a durolux. Tell ya what. Lol
@@JaredRMorganHello, I'm from Brazil and I'm looking for a new suspension to replace my Rockshox 35 Silver TK. Would Suntour Aion OR Suntour Durolux be a good option?!
great video , always associated SR Suntour with cheap bikes but this has opened my eyes
Glad to hear it! I think it's a common misconception, so I'm stoked I was able to make this video.
how easily manipulated you are.
I've been a grassroots ambassador for SR Suntour since 2020 and agree with everything you are saying! I've had the Auron, Durolux, Durolux EQ and Tri-Air and they all perform flawlessly! I recommend them to everyone looking for a great suspension setup! And the fact they are usually a better value than the big names makes it an even easier decision. Plus they are the easiest to maintain and work on in my opinion!
Great video and shout out to SR Suntour!
Heck yeah man that’s awesome to hear you’ve had such a positive experience. It definitely is the best for folks who like a solid spec per dollar and also like to wrench on their own bikes. I look forward to spending more time aboard their offerings. 👌
Suntour has been making dampers and cartridges for Marzocchi, Manitou, Rockshox for ages.
The part about the maintenance is so true. I'm servicing my Fox 38, lyrik ultimate and Aion myself and the aion is by far the most convenient and clean job.
Yeah that matters a bunch to me personally. I can’t tell you how many times oil has spilled on things I didn’t want it to go. No matter how careful I am! 😂
I'm a heavy rider (127 kg / 279 lb with kit) and my Durolux 36 more than deals with my heft, even on harsh downhills and drops.
Heavy riders know the feeling of blowing through travel, having high air spring pressures leading to high rebound damping settings, and the SR Suntour Durolux 36 resolved this issue for me.
My fork is stiff and responsive under my weight, and running 2 of the 3 volume spacers makes it supple on top and supportive further through the travel.
Importantly, I run the right pressure for the intended sag, meaning I don't need to use overkill rebound damping to counteract the air spring pressure as on some other forks. No overpressure worries here.
The fork is surprisingly light (I was VERY surprised on how light the lowers alone are when I was changing travel spacers to 170 mm) and with all the adjustability it is very pedal-friendly for the travel. I'd run SR Suntour on any bike, just need to select the right model for the application.
SR Suntour if course has budget forks too, but that simply means those are intended for lighter duty / non-competition applications, thus available at even lower price points while maintaining high build quality.
Top tier product with a vast range for the right application.
That’s an awesome testimonial. I know exactly what you mean, as I’m a bit heavier than average. At one point I was 220 on a bike with a RS Recon and I had to over-inflate the heck out of it to keep it from bottoming out constantly thus losing all the suppleness at the top. Great that the durolux was able to sort that problem out for you. If I could, I’d put Suntour on all my bikes. Maybe one day!
SR Suntour produced a lot of the insides of several big name brands like Marzzochi since the 2000's. My oppininion on them changed when I found this out while servicing my original Z1 Bomber.
Yeah and as I mentioned in the video they make suspension for other brands including one particular brand that I’ve had people tell me I should run instead of Suntour. 😂 if only they knew.
@@JaredRMorgan What brand!?
@@alimantado373afaik was FOX if i am not mistaken.
Even their cheap stuff like old Raidons and Epixons were pretty good, I remember getting one for forty bucks and it did admirably for a solid few years
The only ones to avoid are XCM and XCT, but even then they allow cheaper hardtails to exist in the first place
Totally agree! And I had an epixon for a bit myself on a budget build I did for this channel, and it did great!
I have a 2020 raidon 34, the things lasts forever. Solid 30k kilometers on it. Serviced it only twice yet.
And what about XCR 32 air?
i like the after support they have parts are everywhere. it encourages you to really send it not having the fear that you cant fix it
Totally get that!
Link me to Suntour fork spares.
Im In europe and you cannot find hardly a thing!?
Thank you! I thought Suntour Suspension is something you have to automatically replace/upgrade. Now I'll be confident of how reliable the brand is
Yeah it’s a super unfair thought process I think many of us riders are or were guilty of at some point. They definitely make some crazy good parts! Thanks for watching!
It's enough to check the website.
Welcome to the Suntour club. 😁😁😆
I own an XCR32 and couldn't be happier with my purchase. I'll definitely upgrade my AOY-36RC to a Raidon LO-R when I get the money. Dependable parts, and serviceable parts at an affordable price. Can't beat that.
100% agree! Value is so good across the board. Glad you’re having a solid experience as well.
We’ve got a local pro rider out here named Mark Matthews, he also set me up with the Durolux 36, it has been an incredible fork for me!
Oh no way? I’ll have to look him up that’s rad. Glad you’re digging it too!
I've two sets of their 36 Durolux RC2 forks and rate them. Note I've run and am running Lyriks and a set of Fox 38s too. The Suntour forks are great, and super easy to work on.
Just note the A2C on the Durolux is about 10mm longer than other brands so it might limit the travel you can fit on your bike.
The only issue is having to explain it to people who think Fox and Rockshox are the only players in town.
Ahhh didn’t realize that about the A2C thanks for bringing that point up! And yeah not so much on this video, but on tiktok when I mentioned this project I got some resistance from the Fox and RS folks. They assumed i had never ridden their stuff, when in reality it’s primarily all I had ridden prior. Lol!
John and the SR Suntour team rock!! Excited to see this brand in the house for a longggg time.
Yes indeed! They’re *chefs kiss* GLORIOUS.
It was a pleasure meeting you on the trail today. Turns out it was your video that I watched! I watched it the day it was released it seems. Good content, keep up the good work!
That’s so rad man! Pleasure meeting you too! I appreciate the love. Super sweet bike you got. If you like polygon content make sure to check out the bikes online channel, I’m their presenter. 🫡
SR Suntour is criminally underrated. They make good suspension products for a lower price conpared to the competition.
I personally run an older generation durolux 36. With a bit of tweaking you can make suntour forks as sensitive to small bumps as the competition...
I definitely agree with you. I knew the stuff would be good, but I wasn’t expecting to like it more than my rockshox setups of the past.
@Cure Cycling they're a bit easier to service compared to other forks. But in my case, the parts are a bit harder to get since no one ia carrying them locally where I'm at.
The thing i did to get my durolux feeling smooth is to put a bit of fork oil in the lowers. Just 5ml of the stuff in each leg. Adjust rebound, and compression as needed depending on the oil used...
While ago after seen many videos of Kyle and April I decided to get the suntour suspension on my new bike. It's a Durolux 36 R2C2 and the Triair. It is really good. Had to beat price point and more importantly, ride really well. With me the durolux rides higher in its travel and fell supply and supportive. Can't recommend enough.
And other fact for those who race, the Olympic XCO champion uses the Suntour fork And shock.
That’s awesome that you felt similarly. I love my new setup, and yeah Kyle was telling me a list of athletes winning running Suntour products, so the proof is certainly in the pudding!
I have sr suntour xcr 34" air fork and I love them for the price
Very nice!
I'm 230 pounds and I got sr suntour xcr coil and it works great 5+ years.
Oh yeah one thing about those coils is they certainly run forever lol.
I had 1 and gave it to my father when I got the Suntour Epixon. He loves how smooth the xcr is.
I have always liked the feel of my Aion. I also run a Raidon on my dj and have had no trouble out of them
I had a feeling that Aion would be a beast. I have one in my cart right now to possibly put on one of my other bikes. 🤫😂
@@JaredRMorgan you won’t be disappointed. Love the channel
Very underrated equipment. You can often take advantage of their upgrade program too. I have on 3 other bikes in the family.
I need to do that! Super clever program.
What is that program?
@@AfterlameMTBit’s bullshit. Suntour will give you about half what you could get on Craigslist if you trade in your fork or shock on an upgrade unit.
Link me, wherever in the world because I have Suntour and Fox and I cant find Suntour spares anywhere in Europe?
You're absolutely right!
Although I never had brand bias, I see most other riders do.
On my last build I used an Aion 35, not even top spec, but I'd say the most basic of the high end stuff and am perfectly happy with it.
That bike and that fork will stay forever together 🙂
Friends have tested it and ask what mods have I done because it feels amazing but it's perfectly stock. In fact a friend of mine got a Durolux 36 after testing mine 😎
And as you mention, the design doesn't require a lot of maintenance. Win-Win!
Yeah the Aion seems like such a solid fork. I’d like to get one to test on one of my other bikes soon. But YES, I wrench on my bikes myself so it’s a huge bonus for ease of maintenance.
SR suntour is popular here in Philippines 😊
Love to hear it!
Epixon Stealth user here.👌👌👌
I have santour dorulox@@JaredRMorgan
I would definitely like to try higher end SR Suntour suspension 👍my main concern with most suspension is performance degradation. I've noticed my Fox Float X2 degrades quickly. When they say "service every 50 hours" they really mean it. A fresh X2 feels incredible. A well used X2 feels dead and harsh. I've experienced the same feeling with Rockshox Forks... but they can go 6 months or so without feeling like they're loosing performance. I wonder how long SR Suntour can go without a service? I know... I should be servicing my suspension more often 😂
Yeah the X2 is notorious for that. As far as SR Suntour and servicing, I picked both Kyle and Jon's brains very heavily on this topic. According to the guys, they don't EVER change the seals and wipers on the forks, but they do use the injection ports on the fork legs to push some fresh oil directly onto the foam wipers from time to time. Also an occasional drop of the legs to clean the foam wipers and load the rubber seals with slick honey would probably be advisable, but all in all the forks are virtually service free in comparison to competitors. The shock is similar, but dropping the air can and giving it a good slick honey treatment will help it stay moving smooth as well. I too was previously a Rockshox fan mainly, but their service intervals are the shortest...so that got annoying sometimes.
I haven't opened my Durolux in like 2 years and it felt even better when I finally figured out how suspension setup works lol. Dropped the sag down to 30%, opened up the compression and slowed down the rebound. Voila, magic carpet unlocked.
My Suntour hasn't been opened since I set the travel and volume spacers, like 2 years?
All I need to do is put a drop of silicon oil in the seals every time I wash it and it feels like new all the time 👍
The fact that you're now getting a sisku e bike or an alpine trail ev is insane
Totally! Very excited about the big day! 🙌
Nice one bro. Suntour are on some Merida bikes in New Zealand. I’m interested in the higher end shocks for future upgrades. Do they do coils?
Thanks man! Yeah they have a coil I believe it’s called the Voro. I’m really hoping to try that in the future.
Installed a 38 Durolux and a Tri Air 2 on my E bike. Up from a Deluxe select+ and 35 gold fork. The Pr's are rolling in.
That’s sick! The durolux 38 is gnarly. Jon from Suntour had that on his Ebike.
I had a Durolux 36 and it was awesome! What they say about that special grease in the bushings though, its questionable. If you add 10ml of oil to the lowers it runs even smoother.
Right on! Yeah they have an injection port for you to put a little oil in every so often which I plan to do to mine.
I sold my DPX2 to get a Super Deluxe RC2T Coil. It isn't available rn, so a friend of mine lent me a TriAir 3CR. That thing honestly rides better than the DPX2 lol. Turns out the TriAir is basically a DVO Topaz with a bladder instead of an IFP in the piggyback.
Yeah it crushes a DPX2. I never liked my DPX2’s. And yes you are correct. DVO is one of the brands Suntour is producing.
I love how at 3:07 he says "I love a quiet bike". But... He has I9 hydras literally the loudest hubs you can buy. 🤣🤣 Keep up the good content
As I’ve clarified a few times now, I was mainly referencing suspension. Some shocks and forks make assorted clunks or even squish noises, and the suspension on this bike is silent. Also no creaks. Hubs on the other can be loud, because a loud hub falls under normal. Thanks!
I’ve been running their full carbon Axon XC fork for four years now. It’s been ultra reliable.
That sounds intriguing! I wasn’t aware of that model.
I’ve just purchased a Sr Suntour Triair 2 for my Commencal Meta AM m, waiting for it now, hope to be satisfied.
It’s a great shock! Don’t forget to pressurize the piggy back as well. There’s a second air valve under a CNC cap.
I have Suntour XCR 32 Air for casual riding in forest. Easy to service, but lack of seal kits and dumper is sealed cartridge, that can not be opened. Because of that changed it to old RS SID. All parts are servicible.
yeah thats the case with some of the low end stuff. My parts are fully serviceable.
right now Im riding Xfusion. But I will never forget my first impression of XCM30....
XFusion is another brand that's less common. They make nice stuff as well! Also, the XCM30 is not a good example of what SR Suntour can do at the top level. Try a Durolux and report back!
Plus SR Suntour has an upgrade problem with their forks (and maybe other products)
I plan to utilize this when I get my Fezzari hardtail, upgrade the budget SR to higher end one
Oh yeah that upgrade program is a brilliant idea. Wish more brands would utilize a structure like that.
I’m riding a hardtail Rocky Mountain Growler w a SRS Raidon 34 Air and was considering upgrading but wonder if I’m going sideways instead of up after watching this. I ride dry trails in Arizona and weigh 190 w gear. Love to hear your thoughts! Great channel btw
Thanks for the support!
To be honest even the cheap coil forks by suntour are very good in a way. If you think about it, what other cheap fork would you put on a cheap beginner bike? It has to be reliable and dumb-proof. There are not many options. Yeah it is heavy and it works just a little. But it is still the best in its segment.
And I need to do a service on my SR Duotrack, which is 30 years old and still works decently on my shopping bike haha
I agree with you here. For what it is and the price it’s at, it does it’s job and is extremely reliable. They definitely know what they’re doing!
I have ns bikes enduro bike and when my fox fork and shock reached the end of its life I purchased the durolux and tri air, 2 years on and never disappointed… they are sooooo underrated it’s actually quite sad
I totally agree. Pretty cool that you're running an NS...I was just having a look at their lineup moments ago. haha.
Im using a Auron on my hardtail and really like it!
Glad to hear that! Enjoy!
Even their low end air forks are pretty solid, i put a raidon 32 on my dirt jumper, it works great even though it isnt made for a DJ
That’s awesome! Yeah we bought a raidon 34 for my wife to try out. I have high hopes!
Heavy though, isnt it!
@@alimantado373 not really dude it's lighter then my rockshox domain, it wasn't as light as my fox fork however my fox fork also broke in 2 months, so I'll take a bit of extra weight for the durability
I've always been a fan of Suntour as how their products have such a good price to performance ratio. I came from an XCR Coil fork and upgraded to the Epixon Airfork and the difference is night and day. The thing about their cheap lineup (XCT, XCM, XCR) is that they use plastic bushings which tend to wear overtime which makes the performance not that consistent but you literally get what you pay for because once I upgraded to their better fork (Epixon), everything feels so much smoother and more stiff. Although they don't need bath oils, you could actually get away with 10cc of oil on the lowers, I do that as the prices of the "correct" grease here in the Philippines is just to much for me and I always have oils in stock from our car's oil change (5w30 synthetic oil btw lol).
That makes sense! Thanks for sharing this!
Awesome setup!!! Have the same fork and shock on my Alpine Trail Carbon 1!
No way! Sounds like you have some good taste, pal!
what do you think of this fork compared to a fox 36? i might upgrade if it has enough advantages
Fox 36 is a great fork. However, the durolux suits me better, bc I think it’s damped better and certainly easier to work on. Not to mention it costs significantly less for consumers. If you’re looking to try something new, I recommend it.
@@JaredRMorgan thx man ill consider it 👍🏼
Wow, I never thought about running Suntour yet, maybe on my next bike I'll get it! Glad you made a vid on it. But otherwise, it has been a while, how's it going?
You’d love it. It’s really remarkable kit. I’ve been great, man! Hope the same for you!
Gotta say, I love suntour grey forks, they look so cool
I agree. It has a real industrial battleship feel.
i've got. a sr suntour raidon i use it in enduro riding and i have no problems with it.
Love to hear it. Haven’t tried that fork, but wouldn’t mind getting to know it.
Was debating on rockshox recon or doing the replacement program for my XCT coil shock that came on my ozark trail ridge this video just made my mind up 🤘🫶💪👍🏻 just not sure what form would be a good replacement.
For that application you'd probably consider something like the Aion! Nice trail fork.
Tom PIdcock won the Olympics and Worlds on this fork, but I'm glad you dived deep and figured out we can trust them!
Heck yes he did! Still loving these components and the team responsible a year later. Really awesome stuff.
When you service them, you could use some oil instead of their grease, as I've heard it increases small bump sensitivity
Good to know!
Awesome. I have an XC bike with a Suntour Epixon and it is really smooth for a cheap fork.
Oh yeah the epixon is great!
I'm running axon 32s on my race xc bike, it runs like a dream
That’s sick!
Welp, I'm convinced. I also ride an AT7 so its nice to see that these components play well with my bike before I buy them too. Cheers!
Glad you enjoyed the content and found it useful!
@@JaredRMorgan I did, on both points. What have you enjoyed most about your AT7? Have you done any other work besides suspension? I swapped in a Dissector at the rear to reduce weight and rolling resistance, and installed an XT shifter. I'm gonna keep the Yari and install a 2.1 Charger damper I think.
@@karlkrause6679 I pretty much changed every part on mine, but the bike is pretty dang solid out of the box. A custom wheel set can really drop some lbs and make it feel more spritely!
@@JaredRMorgan That'll be down the road or else if I mash my rims beyond repair. If I had my druthers, I'd have one set of rims shod with some faster rolling trail tires and the other with some stickier, burlier rubber. I've spent enough $$$ to get some looks of disapproval from my better half so I'm pumping the brakes a bit right now 🤣 But my Charger 2.1 should be here tomorrow so I got that going for me! Cheers!
I had a Suntour product and emailed the company with no response (about 5 years ago). Since then, I got a new bike with Fox suspension and when I reached out to Fox, they answered almost immediately and when I called Fox, they were awesome and very helpful. I'm sure Suntour products are great, but I will always stay with companies with great customer service like Fox and Raceface.
We are all products of our experiences as they say, and your experience with fox sounds a lot like my experience with SR Suntour. Fox does make a good product as well.
Planning to change my rockshox recon to sr suntour auron 35 /durolux on my t7
That would be a huge upgrade! If you’re in the states I’d grab that Aion Evo 35 they have on sale. 🤙
Unfortunately im living in Philippines
Unfortunately im living in Philippines
I remember suntour from the 90’s and they weren’t not very good but it looks like they’ve improved alot
They definitely have!
I noticed SR Suntour making high end suspension when I saw Tom Isted and Sam Reynolds riding them. Isted is competing at Crankworx and Sam Reynolds runs and rides at Darkfest with them. No way any of us are going to punish the forks and shocks as much as they do.
That’s what I’m saying. Any weekend warrior who thinks they’re out riding the dark fest dudes might need to check their ego. 😂
@@JaredRMorgan I don't know. I hit some pretty mean rock gardens. Oh wait, Tom Isted just hit a 120ft backflip? 😆
What do you mean does not need bath oils? Elaborate please?
Normally inside the lower leg of a suspension fork there is a pool of loose oil. When you do a lower service and separate the fork upper from the fork lower, this oil pours out. No matter how clean you try to be, it still ends up in places you don’t want it. Suntour doesn’t use bath oils, so no mess!
@@JaredRMorgan It's called a cartridge damper and most of the high end forks do that.
How about a video about how updating your bikes suspension: How can you tell how to get compatible parts, what tools do you need if you want to install yourself, something else?
I'd love to do a video like this! When I get the time, I'll give it a go!
Been on Suntour since '99!
A TRUE OG. Love it. 🤘
All of my beginner bikes had SR Suntour forks. I would gladly buy any product regardless of name, if I get performance for a decent price. My only issue is the name to me says cheap. I would come out with a SR Protour just to provide some distance between the higher end products and the lower end stuff.
I get what you’re saying, and through this video I’m trying to help out that perception to rest. The shimano comparison is a great argument in support of that.
Man I say something: Have tested and owned Marzocchi, Fox and others... My Xc bike uses a fork brazilian made: Proshock, I now may sounds cheap and low quallity, but I have the top quality Proshock and I dont exchange for a Fox, Manitou or other. The torcional and reading of terrain it's increadeable.
I have learn someting: best suspension it's that who works for you.
Nice! Never heard of them!
😂 dude. You'll be surprised how durable their cheap forks.
I have a raidon 32 non boost in 27.5, I am 100kg and it's been a year w/o any maintenance, it's still as smooth as day one.
I already had an accident with it but it wasn't damaged even after that
I believe it! We just got my wife the raidon boost 34. I anticipate great things.
i have an xcr air. from 7 years ago. no mainentenance. only now needs a service as the seals are gone.
@@SimonBauer7I think that's what happens when the company doesn't care about the weight
It's heavier than the competition and it feels unusual reliable
i think sr suntor are very underrated for the cost to performance ratio some suspensions cost more than an entire frame and top end drive train i think the coil forks aren’t amazing but for a disc brake suspension fork it is a reliable and cheap option for any budget mountain bike build and the air forks are really pretty good for the cost i personally run an older rockshox reba but i really don't see much difference between that and a properly serviced suntor xcr i really think the bad reputation comes that half of the mountain bike community that are almost like posers as they become more obsessed with expensive gear and expensive bikes than actually riding those bikes onto trails
You’re speaking a lot of truth here. I was once one of those part snob “posers” who wasn’t getting out to ride much. The more I ride and the better I get the less I care about what brands are on my bike. I just want stuff that works and keeps up with my demands…& this suspension kills it!
I changed my Aion 34 2015 for RS Pike Ultimate 2022 cuz i'm a little bit of a snob xD I don't feel any difference xD
Pike ultimate is a rad fork, but yeah I’d agree…my durolux feels just as good as a lyrik ultimate I once had that retails for $400 more!
Can I just say, thats the first time I've ever seen a custom wheelset spoke colourway like that and I've fallen in love.
Thanks for the kind words!
I've got an epixon on my D5 and i love it
Epixon is a great fork. I too had one on a D5 and it felt REALLY good.
@@JaredRMorgan that's the reason I got one for my D5. I watched the video and you said it was solid so I bought it.
I think that one of the biggest problems with some suspension companies just like SR Suntour is that they dont offer YOU the rider the option of servicing the suspension yourself, i serviced my fox suspension for the last 3 years without problems, fox has every turorial on every service, thats what i am looking for when buying suspension from any brand
SR Suntour definitely gives you the option of self service. The kits are available on the shop website, and as mentioned in the videos there’s no bath oils so it’s just drop legs, clean, swap bushings and wipers, lube up, reassemble.
I will agree though that fox has a ton of write ups and manuals available across the internet.
@@JaredRMorgan those seal kits are just for a lower leg service, which is the most basic service you can do on a fork, try servicing a damper of a sr suntour fork, yeah good luck, no seal kits no tutorials no manuals nothing, you dont even know what oil the damper takes. Try searching SR Suntour R2C2(their best damper) service and see what you find, you will find nothing
What's the pike select equivalent offering from suntour?
I currently have a cheap xcr32 120mm and I cannot compress the fork more than half anymore..even with all the air out. Negative spring is a coil spring.
I guess I wrecked the damper when I put in some foam rings in the lowers and added some oil to get a plushier feel.
Does the higher end stuff also come with a non serviceable damper?
If you're in the US, they have that fork on sale. Look at the Aion 35 Evo boost. I'd say that's going to be a pike select competitor. As you get into the higher range, the damper is serviceable. I believe the Aion 35 Evo boost has the serviceable PCS damper, but I'd have to double check. I know my Durolux 36 has the serviceable PCS damper.
yeah just double checked. That Aion 35 has a serviceable PCS. I think the lower spec Zeron has the disposable damper. Here's the fork: www.srsuntour.us/collections/forks/products/aion35-evo-boost-lo-r-pcs-15qlc-29
Thank you so much for replying and actually looking things up for me, which makes me feel even more lazy :D least I can do now is to subscribe.
I ride a RUX 38 R2C2 of 2023 on my DH bike, I admit that is a very good suspension.
But I don't know why, every 4-5 downhill, I need to purge it with the grease nipples, if not the fork become very hard, stuck... If Anyone can tell me that is normal or not ?
Sounds abnormal for sure I’d give sr Suntour a call about that!
High end subtour is great stuff. It just doesn't have the longevity if you skip services
Luckily with the ease of servicing, there’s no excuse to get it done anyway! But yeah the gear rides great!
SR Suntour needs to split off their higher end products into a different brand so that people don't associate their higher end products with a cheap brand name. Tektro -> TRP, Marzocchi -> Fox, CST -> Maxxis.
That’s an idea. I actually had no clue CST was associated with maxxis. That’s interesting!
DVO is that exact thing
@@randomdudeontheinternet4389 You're implying DVO is owned by Suntour? I don't see a source for that anywhere, it says they're a California based company.
You must be referring to the fact that they're both made in the same factory. "In short, the only real connection between the two suspension companies is that their components are made under the same roof. In every other way, they are direct competitors."
@@JesseIkawa Actually not really. They are not literally under the same ownership. However Suntour does outsource quite a bit of research and development to DVO in exchange for manufacturing capabilities and access to parts produced by Suntour.
I have mixed feelings about them, I work as a bike mechanic for Merida and we put these higher end ones on our e-bikes. I don't know if it's the issue only with the ones going equipped on bikes, but they often come without any oil in the lower legs, causing the uppers to get destroyed in about 6 months and the fork performing poorly. Sometimes, they don't even have foam rings at the dust seals... We never had problems with the shocks, but the forks often times don't last and get warrantied. Also, conveniently for suntour, the warranty for the bushings and seals is only 6 months. meaning most of the warranties we try to claim get rejected.
They don’t use bath oils in their lowers by design. They also use a black high density wiper rather than the normal squishy foam so it can look like there is no rings, but there are. With regular maintenance, which is quite minimal, my fork has had no issues. A lower service takes no time as it’s just a quick wipe down and then some grease.
I believe your fork works fine, you are person who thinkers with his bike a lot, you do the service yourself. But majority of the people will not, no matter how simple it is. I think, because they are not using oil for some reason, the grease just moves away from where it needs to be and without replying it often enough, your fork then runs dry and destroys the uppers. I believe that with following the service intervals they can work well, but majority of people get their bikes checked once before season and that's it. I have sample size of many things that go through our shop, and I can tell you that Suntour haves the most fatal failures. (not counting the super cheap stuff they make, that will be unfair)
Just look at Petr Vinokurov
heck yeah!
Ive been on a SR suntour fork for 5 years without servicing and it works just fine. I have video proof lol
Sick! Is it on your channel?? I'll take a look!
Sr suntour made some.of the most solid and strong bmx parts in the 80s.
Yeah in my research I kinda found that out bc there’s Facebook groups still dedicated to those components. Pretty sweet!
I don't even consider SR Suntour a "low end" option. Japanese and Taiwanese do have a solid reputation in bikes.
Totally agree with you!
How does Suntour damping compare to not only Fox and RockShox, but more interestingly to EXT and Öhlins?
I don’t have enough time on ohlins or EXT….The Suntour kit is very comparable to my pike and lyrik ultimates of the past, but not overdamped like a fox grip 2. That’s as elaborate as I can be given my personal experiences.
Today I ride a latest model cannondale scalpel but I am looking for something else with a traditional fork, everyone is valling me crazy If i say I want a suntour axon werx 34 but this video makes me sure to just buy a new frameset and putting that fork in.
Oh yeah that fork would probably be an amazing option. Folks are winning races on Suntour!
Not enough sun your being specced on factory bikes! Needs more exposure. My problem with suntour is there is just no support for parts or technical service specs and instructions, atleast in Australia anyway. I love my aion35, such a plush and stuff fork
In the US all the service kits are plentiful on their website. & thankfully more bikes are being specced with their kit so folks can give it a run. Thanks for watching!
Hello Just wanna ask if I can use this Fork because I have one Can I use it on Giant Stance 29 2 2022-2023 model? I am using 140mm as for now. I want to use my SR Suntour Durolux 160mm Travel.
You could! Travel numbers should probably be adjusted a bit. It may throw the geo out of whack!
@@JaredRMorgan Thank you so much I will just adjust my air pressure adjust the sag. I will just run 65 or 70 psi so I will not bottom out and my frame will not be stress out... Thanks A lot
My bike mechanic always tells me that the SR Suntours are always the easiest to maintain.
For sure! I was picking the teams brain and asking when I should replace seals and wipers for example, and they’re like “basically never if you keep it clean and lubed up.” 😂🤘
welp, it's the same fellas who run production for DVO. affordable entry level shocks that allow budget riders to get out and rip? sounds good to me.
Heck yeah! All love for that idea.
Think about it, the suspension that allowed the longest backflip and longest dirt jump ever to happen is SR Suntour.
Solid point!! Need to go back and rewatch that lol.
I’m confused. If there is no oil, then why a piggy back?
The shock has oil in it, the fork does not.
Bath oil and damper oil are two different things. Good question!
I don't know anyone who rides this suspension that had to pay for it with their own money. Every one who runs it is either a Suntour sponsored athlete, or a media/influencer type who was comped the product to ride & review. I have no doubt it works well - but still has a stigma that it needs to overcome. They should do what Tektro did with TRP and brand their higher end stuff separately from their entry level components. Shimano has big enough market share to do whatever they heck they want. Suntour does not, and neither did Tektro - so they introduced TRP and most people consider that stuff high-end boutique stuff.
I can definitely see where you're coming from with that. Tektro totally made a smart move with the TRP line.
Thomas Pidcock won a gold medal at the Olympics with a suntour axon
He sure did!
Sam Reynolds also run Suntour suspensions. It's safe to say anyone who uses SR Suntour is in very good hands
Agreed! And yes you are correct!
Part of the bias against them is due to rarely seeing any of their high end stuff specked on bikes. The only stuff most of the public is familiar with is the low end stuff, so people think the brand is “crap”
Yeah I understand that. Fortunately as mentioned in the video, all of the new polygon E-bikes are going to be Suntour equipped so it’ll be a bigger topic of discussion soon. Slowly but surely, I think the perception can be molded into something more realistic.
Jackson Riddle also rides for SR Suntour. . . 🤘🤘🤘
💪💪💪
Jared, take a tour for the Suntour Factory, in Taiwan.
That would be sick!
0:06 the xcr forks are actually really decent, xcm and xct are the ones you probably think of when u say sr suntour
I guess you’re right!
Live my tri air shock. Absolutely awesome.
Yeah it’s awesome. Feels extremely intuitive if that makes sense…almost like it can read the terrain. Great stuff!
@Cure Cycling I have had the orignal fox DPS, an X2 and now the tri air on my Polygon N7, the tri air is the best. I love the ease of the climb switch. I ride 80% of the time in the middle firm position. Only full soft for decents, as I find it a bit sloppy for peddle performance on general trails.
You are aware that a sag band is meant for measuring sag right? Set the suspension up before hitting the trails, then make adjustments depending on feel, not sag bands.
Revolutionary statement right here.
@@JaredRMorgan going from DVO to suntour and within 2 small features you're saying "oh this feels good" tells me all I need to know about how much you know and how credible your information is. That's your channel hidden from my feed ya melt.
Love the edit!! 🎉
Thanks bro!
I realized one thing..
they're all made with the same material
difference is brands ,year established company ,sponsored rider that makes them popular
Yeah that’s true!
Can you swap out the lever TA bolt for a non lever bolt?
No, I wish that was an option. But it's not.
Most flatfaces are not shimano,even some tourneys and aceras too, factories in china pay for the logo and call it a day
Hey man, nothing wrong with humble beginnings! 😎 I would venture to say it’s not an apples to apples comparison though. 😂
@@JaredRMorganagree, looking back those suck now I ride a rigid
Awesome would love to have the budget to try this lol
It’s great stuff! They have a nice sale going on right now too. 🫡
Owned a fork and shock without any maintenance for 7 years, clearly aproved lol
That’s so insane. Lol. Love hearing real time experiences like that.