I grew up watching his videos, and while I found them entertaining, I too grew out of that type of humor. I'm for this character development and maturity. Good for Ian standing up for himself and his wife.
I don't think anyone is. People miss iDubbz actually making content. People would understand if he stopped swearing, but he's gone from being a really weird and random comedian to doing boring tier lists and toy reviews. He seems really depressed in his latest videos too.
Definitely did not expect him to apologize for the Tana video or the slurs, good for him for acknowledging his shitty behavior and growing from it. Yes, Tana deserved a bit of a callout, but not to the degree of harassment, especially not irl.
@@ashashraa6579 all she said was that he harassed her (because he did), she never said he SEXUALLY assaulted her. You’ll have to link that tweet. The worst she ever did was tell him to kys because he openly used slurs, which is what triggered him to make an entire content cop on her being a hypocrite.
The apology comes too late, but I am still happy he made it. There are three camps of idubbbz fans-the ones that liked the goofy but not the slurs, the ones that liked the slurs, and the ones that liked both. Unfortunately, the portion of his fanbase that followed him for the slurs and edgelord humor are the kind of people that take offense to anyone “breaking ranks” and developing a compassionate bone or even a hint of empathy. Ian attracted apathetic, mean, nasty people who in fact went on to bully other people, and rationalized it by acting like it was the victim’s fault if they got upset, that ‘words don’t have power if you don’t give it power’, and all that shit said by people that have never been on the receiving end of hate in their life (and no, ‘radical ‘man hating’ sjw feminists’ don’t count). Then they call him a cuck because his GF does onlyfans, which proves how unimaginative and one track minded they are: all they can think about is ‘beta cuck’ and ‘I should be able to be mean and rude to minorities without consequence’. Ian also created a climate that seemed eager to dogpile on anyone who was the least bit cringe or vulnerable, so Ian, being insecure himself, tried to head that off at the pass by calling it out first. And now that he’s mellowed out, those edgy fans turn on him. How predictable.
he is 100% genuine. been watching him on and off for years, i was into his content (yes, i know... but i always just saw it as haha dark humour not my actual way of seeing the world? i was also a preteen lol) he's been "arguing" with his edgier fan base for a while. especially because of his gf Anisa who did and/or does OF, so alllll the edgy boys started to call him a simp, a cuck, and just started to bully him, saying he became what he used to make fun for. he made a video about it and basically said "wtf is wrong with y'all" but the edgy ppl didn't care. this is just one instance, there are more, even earlier in the days (when he critiqued his fan base or even himself for being too edgy/unfunny). same thing happend to filthy frank. he was 10 times "worse" than ian and when he finally stopped making content and started music, his edgy fan base started laughing at him too. he never really adressed his shift from what i know. ian observed this, what type of people he attracted and for sure saw it was getting serious and dangerous. i am so happy for him and his growth.
As a black person who grew up in predominantly white areas I have zero tolerance for racism. idubbz is a grown man, I’m tired of these problematic content creators acting like they’re oblivious to the large affects racism and homophobia have. And the narrative that they had good intentions is just bs to me, how is making racist and homophobic jokes conveying any good intentions?? I’m sorry but I do not forgive racism ever, there is no excuse or reasoning in the world to try to explain yourself for your behavior. I’m not saying people can’t change and I can give credit where it’s due, but at the end of the day racist behavior will forever be harmful whether it’s in the past or the present.
this is how I feel about it too especially being someone who also was in a predominantly white area and was in middle school when he was at his peak. I can never forgive the ramifications his actions caused like the racism I experienced from his fans back then was INSANE
You’re right. Ian addressed that whatever his ‘intentions’, he was being an idiot and self-important and contributing to bigotry by trying to normalize the use of slurs. But ai think you misunderstand: it is not that he didn’t know how harmful racism was, it’s that he didn’t really care, which is a huge difference of intention. He fully acknowledges it and that nothing he can say or do will make up for it, which is sort of a bit of consolation for me. It’s infinitely better than someone wanting praise for trying to be better. I don’t think he’s looking for that, or begging for forgiveness. He is apologizing because it’s the right thing to do, without expectation of being forgiven. He knows that many people will not forgive him, and you have the right to not forgive him because you were the one hurt. He knows that and will have to live with knowing he created such a bigoted community on the internet that spilled over into real life. Guilt is of course something that it’s intangible and not a good enough punishment for many, but unfortunately we can’t prosecute him for saying slurs.
Like you being racist to Asians? Bitch, sit your ass down. Everyone can be racist. One way or another. May it be conscious, unconscious, or learned. The important thing is how we grow and be better people, to ourselves to others.
You’re 1000% right. I feel like a lot of non black people don’t get that a lot of his “comedy” had a massive and irreparable contribution to the alt-right pipeline of TH-cam. Like first it was him, then probably an anti sjw TH-camr like Shoe0nHead (if you’re familiar with her), then right wing pundits like Steven Crowder, Candice Jones, Blair White, Matt Walsh, and Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones ect. and finally those “race realists” that spew white nationalist rhetoric and call for violence. And we’ve seen people actually get killed due to racially motivated mass killings because of this pipeline in the past 10 years, and there is a direct link to creators who pushed these people through these pipelines in conjunction with TH-cams’s screwed up algorithms. It’s like the people who didn’t have to worry about a non black kid justifying saying the N word with a video he made don’t have a say. As a black kid who grew up in a nearly all white area during this edgy era of TH-cam as well, his apology was way too late. And while I’m glad he’s grown, he will never even be able to fully reverse the trauma and hurt and pain he has caused onto minorities in this lifetime.
This is just how he talks. In fact, I think this is the most genuine and open I’ve ever seen him. He’s very socially awkward lol, always hiding behind a layer of irony. So it’s impressive to see him do this
I never really watched his videos but I was definitely impressed by this apology. The only thing I really knew about him was the Tana situation. Glad to see a creator actually taking accountability for their actions!
I think the video apology was very sincere and the fact that he is also donating money to organizations is great. The comment that the trans person made also made him become self aware how insensitive he was being and make changes. We are all evolving in this world hopefully towards being better humans. I really appreciate his video.
He appeared in some H3 videos way back when, and one fairly recently. I always preferred him in those, where he was just a goofy idiot with a dumb, somewhat childish, sense of humour. I think, like most people in his position, he got caught up in this toxic echo chamber where everyone agreed with him. That's in no way an excuse btw. I think this apology is a step in the right direction and I can only hope he's true to his word.
i never liked iDubbz but my edgy high school boyfriend did, so i've watched said past content with a bad taste in my mouth. this was a good ass and raw apology from what I KNOW of iDubbz. He's always been right in the aspect he does not "tell his audience what to do" but he's taking accountability for the whole generation of edgy/toxic boys.. that he did inherently encourage the behaviors of.
He got me with being responsible for his audience AND the donating and changing we will see but he's doing what we all ask from creators who we want to change. I don't know what more he could do
I love how this apology is either too much or too little. At this point his old hard core fans hate him and the people he's apologising to also hate him. It's sad to see so much hate going his way even though he's actively trying to do better.
Words are meaningless. If he really cares he would have completely deleted his videos, instead of privating them, (his channel keeps it's view and like count). He would have also donated the millions of dollars he made to a relevant charity, not just the ~25k from the apology video.
I never watched Idubbz. I knew of him but was never intrested in his content. I don't expect people who were affected by his content to forgive and forget however in our current post Andrew Tate internet, I think this kind of honesty coming from someone as popular as he was, is important. We can all see these edgy jerks are insecure and pathetic but it's always harder to admit it within yourself. People will deny and deny because it's too painful to admit you were hurtful/wrong. The bigger/popular you are, the harder it probably is to publicly admit it. I think this video was very genuine and shows a lot of growth and his part. I think this is a good start and most importantly a good example to the young edgelords that watch him. If he can admit it and try to be better, so can they. I hope some of his audience is able to reflect in the same way. I hope some of the similar creators can too because Idubbz is sadly not the only one who made/makes cruel content.
it's up to each person individually to decide to forgive him i knew about stuff but i was never an avid watcher because i obviously didn't like him using slurs etc. i will say though, this is a pretty solid apology and it shows he is well aware of what he's done and that's the first step wish i could have seen the same type of apology from other content creators like shane etc. but they likely haven't even fully realized what they have done wrong other than 'people didn't like it' you can't fully apologize correctly until you fully know what you did wrong
I remember when he was at his peak. I was in highschool and I couldnt even go to class because his fans had been so indoctrinated they would wish death and worse things on me. The apology is too late. His actions have affected mainstream culture in big ways and the hatred he spewed has been planted in too many peoples heads.
I experienced this too and i have to disagree. He is not the sole reason for that behavior and it’s honestly delusional to suggest that. HIS behavior had an origin too. They got that shit from reddit & 4chan. They were gonna be racist, ableist, and homophobic regardless. At least this is a video of someone they, at one point, looked up to, saying “that shit was stupid as fuck.” Maybe it’ll make some of those losers feel stupid. I got screamed at being called a faggot and dyke every day in school. i want those people to hear that their behavior was stupid and was never okay. especially from someone they looked up to.
I was at that Tana meet and greet and when I met her you could tell that she was shook up by something :/ Glad he apologized and that it’s being well received, he seems like a really good dude that knows he made mistakes. I love seeing genuine growth in people.
There is something to be said for being fully cognizant of one’s misdeeds and be completely apologetic for them. Now what most fail to do is actually atone for those misdeeds, “what are the actions be taken to correct those wrongs”??
Just got to the donation portion of the video, that’s big of him. Is it enough for the years of his influence on young minds? Who knows, good step in the right direction. Good for him.
I think this apology is awesome. I believe that mentality of “i dont forgive him because he still said it” is hurtful to good causes. We call ignorant or raised badly to people who are racist (and they are) but when they begin to gain empathy, maturity and accountability for their previous racism many reject it. Individually of course everyone can forgive or not as they see fit. But as a society, we need more of this. We all understand systems of racism and bigotry are so embedded, especially when youre a privileged white male its a system that benefits you so it’s obvious some tropes will automatically be in you, and though that is not an excuse, in order for human and societal progress into equality, i think we need to be more forgiving when its genuine which this seems to be or if not whats the point of any of it? Isnt change and progression and accountability the goal?
As someone who was 16/17 when the Tana video came out, I thought it was extremely funny back then. I’m here for the growth that not only I have went through, but Ian too.
I had no idea at all about idubbbz before you put this video up, but after watching D’angelo’s video i dont think something like what hes been doing/ saying shouldve be forgiven so easily.
wtff i was literally just thinking about this yesterday! how tana is friends with ethan now, i was wondering if he'd ever bring up the idubbz drama since ethan is friends with him too. i was thinking how tana was barely problematic in that situation at all from what i can remember like... how did idubbz ever come off like the "good guy" in that scandal
it was because people were calling her out for saying the n word and she apologized but also justified it by saying she knew the word as "homie". That doesn't make what idubbz did ok but thats why the situation turned out the way it did.
People had, and some might still have, an image of Tana being this messy, trashy person. Yet Idubbz was put on this pedestal as being this no-nonsense guy who would call out the behaviour of "problematic" influencers. People just perceived him as being the better, more "righteous", individual.
I think you’re forgetting the fact that he did it to call tana out for using it on her own in her past. Not saying anyone is the right, but that’s how he “came out to be the good guy.”
@@pinheadlarry2921 i remember that, it’s just that he literally went out to say it to her irl and made a whole video saying it and defending it, plus that stupid “it’s all bad or none of its bad” edgelord argument. i didn’t mean to say tana was “barely problematic” because she deserved to get called out for saying the n word in the past and being a hypocrite, but idubbz had such a bad take. like at least tana was just a dumbass teenager, idubbz way of exposing her was defending/using the hard R like ??
@@goblin_corpse ikr i hate that edgelord appeal to “rational” arguments like that, i can only imagine how much more that contributed to defending slurs/racism compared to tanas use of the word (not that her usage is more acceptable but i just hate that o many people supported idubbz’s take in that controversy)
I used to watch him when I didn't realize what those words meant, but now that I'm thinking about I really like the direction he's going with this and the fact that he's donating the proceeds. Somebody mentioned it in chat but him saying he didn't really feel empathy makes me think he could have a personality disorder.
a lot of young people don’t really develop empathy until they are older. I imagine it’s more common in boys. I think the way he describes it makes sense. You think you are an empathetic person, but until you mature, you can’t realize that you really weren’t.
I don't feel like he is genuine at all. He probably feels pressured to address it after H3 fans calling him our for past actions and Ethan enabling it all. Also, he's aware that there's a divide in audience of teen boys who fell in love with his 'I'm untouchable' attitude and people tuning in for Creator Clash. This all started many, many years ago. Zero excuse for taking this long whilst making loads of money.
obviously it’s good that he’s allegedly grown as a person and i’m glad he addressed how much harm he has caused to so many communities and how many young people he pushed into an alt right pipeline but…. come on. he’s a grown ass man and he was a grown ass man during this whole time. he really had so many opportunities to be better rather than waiting until now when he really (no offense) isn’t that generally relevant anymore. i think this is bare minimum and nobody should be praising this.
Coping is like trying ta deal with something really personal by distancing yourself, kinda like escapism. People cope with drugs, dissassociating etc. It's technically coping mechanisms. It doesn't always have to be toxic or avoidance seeking but it usually is. It could be daydreaming, meditation, visualization exercises it depends, just trying to deal with something. I really respect I dubbz for this apology, b'cuz he really acknowledged his mistakes n is fully aware of his impact. And he came to tht conclusion on his own for the most part. Im sure ppl tried telling him at different times in his life and he didn't see it, but that's life and how people work. Ppl have really high expectations for influencers and I understand why, but people don't apologize like this in day to day life. Ppl are constantly holding influencers to the highest standards they couldnt even meet themselves, and sure theyre actions and behaivors affect a larger amount of people, and a lot of times they dont care to change, but want to keep support. It's not necessary ta make a perfect apology depending on most situations. But he got pretty close and did so of his own accord and thats admirable. Whether I or anyone likes him or his content we need to allow ppl to grow and change. I feel bad because a lot of his audience past n some present are really taking his change and denouncing his past content personally, and aren't happy. Irregardless of whether ppl belive content cop was inherently bad, he does and that's what matters. He fostered a community where ppl cld hide behind humor and used him to validate their own toxic behaviors. I wldnt even say the majority of his audience where like tht, but then again only I dubbz knows as he saw his own impact first hand. It doesn't matter if it's not the majority, a minority in an audience of his size is still pretty large. N honestly there are a lot of ppl like I dubbz who don't recognize that their behavior impacts ppl negatively, b'cuz it doesn't impact themselves personally, and sometimes it affecting themselves personally is what it takes to understand that words have weight and affect ppl. Everyone likes to harp on actions speak louder then words, n yes that's true a lot of the time, but words are not insignificant.
Say what u want- ppl could always do better and obvi it’s better to of never said anything . But I think he’s handling it the best he can at THIS point
I think we've gotten used to such h*ll below standard that suddenly this apology video is seen as "impressive". But in reality this is still the bare minimum. It's the actions done both in the past & future that matter the most, this is just plain talk at least to me (who happens to be part of multiple minorities). Also these apologies they feel more each day like "I'm calling myself out before others do & suffer the consequences" over something that is literally COMMON SENSE which is literally don't be an A-hole.
The truth is though, he is an A-hole. He won't even respond to Airsoft Fatty, even though they're meant to be friends and the guy's mum died and he's been evicted.
I’m sorry but I hate that Jenna was brought up- his apology is nothing like hers simply because she wasn’t out here saying literal slurs left and right like it’s nothing while he was. Yes I’m happy that he’s apologized with an actual good apology and yes I’m happy that he’s growing as a person- but I feel like people are giving him to much praise. He doesn’t deserve praise for not saying slurs and for not bullying people, no one does because it’s basic human decency- and this is coming from someone who has MASSIVE issues with empathy to the point where I don’t think I have it a majority of the time. Yet I still know what is good and bad, it’s a great apology and I hope he does well from here on out but his past mistakes are just to much to give him praise for this apology.
Also I feel like he should take a small pause on his content and spotlight some creators from the groups he’s said bad things about and make a few vids educating people. Like yea I understand why he wants to continue to make his own normal content but the damage he’s done is just to much, I literally got bullied so hard from his fans back in middle school and I know a lot of other people have to.
@@pinheadlarry2921 poor queen Jenna can’t do no wrong she only did it because she had to. I don’t think her apology was the best it was better then what we got from anybody else at the time.
The full tana story was she was saying the N word for years and then was a hypocrite and called someone a racist and hateful for using that word and so he went there and said that "saaaay (the N word)" and then she makes a story time video exaggerating because she didn't know who he was and she said he held her in a chokehold which was a lie because he took a video of the encounter. And so she got called out again for lying and exaggerating her stories and especially when it comes to feeling like you have been assaulted as a woman... She could disagree and hate what he said but she doesn't have to lie about what he's done to her, he just put his hands around her back and said that phrase and then walked away and she made it out to look and sound a lot worse. THAT is the full context of that story.
do stupid things win stupid prizes. you raised a culture of normalizing the n word for YEARS. in my eyes he’s no better than shane. they were both old enough to know wtf they was doing 🧍🏾♀️
What I find interesting about the case of idubbz is he willingly stepped away from content cop because he saw what his audience and impact was from that organically and was disgusted even though he was making crazy money off it. He’s been taking steps back since rice gum even tho no one was asking him to do it… I do believe he’s genuine but I’m not the people who was affected by his bad actions so I can’t be the one to forgive him
At least he knows how to do an apology video since he’s the only one to actually address and show what he was talking about no one else has done anything close to that yeh
I think about people like Jake Doolittle, who grew up watching Shane Dawson and thinking the disgusting jokes and comments he made were funny until he saw how people reacted
Tbh, I was shocked that things always seemed so acceptable whenever iDubbz said controversial, edgy things. Like other creators would be called, but for some reason, no one hardly ever called out iDubbz. In regards to the Tana situation, I think they're both guilty. Tana's just an awful hypocritical person in general, and iDubbz was being stupid.
I am going to be honest, i didnt watch him before or was a fan however just by looking at his old content i do see some hypocrisy. I get that people grow up and change opinions however to bash everything that bilt you up to where you are and still use words like the R word as an insult and charry picking clips for his "apology" video where if you go back to the same clips he has shown and just look at a few frams back it is blatantly contradictory and not addressed things fully i would feel like it would be a slap in the face for some of his fans. So as an outsider this reads to me as a bit misleading... I dont agree with everything i have done or said in the past today but i do understand why i held those opinions at the time and i dont regret having an old opinion because i was still learning... And this is whats being talked about honestly, its all opinions. You cant say hey, I was on this journey to find my something and then regret the journey if you are happy you reached the outcome of that journe. It means you are more understanding today and as a result this reads as damage control and less about learning from your past and walking through how you changed your mind about big talking topics.
I feel like most people already said it. On the positive side, I did appreciate him showing what he said on the boxing podcast and saying that he was still making excuses at the time for something that was dumb and should have never been done. He acknowledged his stupidity and I appreciate that. However, I view his content at that time as equal to Shane Dawson’s content. I wasn’t aware of his videos until the Tana thing but after looking through some of them, he was the typical cis straight white male offending every community the way that Shane Dawson did (I know Shane is not straight now but back then he was viewed that way and they both used homophobic, ableist and racial slurs). When it came to Jenna Marbles, she ended up proving in the video that she was not doing blackface and she just had a tan that looked darker and made it look like she darkened her skin to mimic Nicki Minaj. Jenna Marbles had nothing to apologize for when it came to the black community and I am still mad at the people who falsely accused her of black face. She did make Asian jokes and slut shame jokes which are not things I can accept but that is why I personally can “forgive” Jenna (even though she had nothing to apologize for in my opinion). But with Shane and idubbz the content that they made goes SO deep with the offensive content. They built their platform off offending these communities.
It seems to me he’s trying to position himself as above his fans. Like he says multiple times he realized his content was problematic when his fans were actually racist and homophobic shocker 😮. If you make racist and homophobic jokes you’re opening your content up to people who are bigots. I don’t believe he himself isnt a bigot considering the fact it takes one to make the kind of content he did. I don’t like the fact he tries to alienate himself from his fan base which he literally created and inspired to go out into the world and spew his bigotry. He is SO MUCH WORSE than any of his viewers because he was literally there leader. All he had to do was read the comments on his video to know what he stood for was wrong. His apology was not good enough and I don’t think it was genuine if he truly had grown he’d admit he was a bigot not just pretending to be one.
People wanted an apology. He had drama for kicking froggy fresh from the creator clash for making comments towards his wife and training with someone he dislikes with this people started calling him a hypocrite because he’s never addressed his content cop content or that he had changed his views, yes he passively did so but it was never addressed prior too. It wasn’t out of no where’s and not anything like the Jenna marbles situation.
In my opinion, he's apologizing now because he's afraid of the woke mob, which is sad. Somewhere, there will always be someone offended. This is how comedy dies. Well, comedy worth watching at least. I dont know who this guy is but I know most influencers are afraid to say anything because of the woke mob.
I really thank you Adam that you share so much if your energetic youth. Sometimes i remember so well how i felt that age...enjoy every bit and dare dare as much as you can. Grasp tge chances snd do never wait til something happens. Its but you who makes everything possible and going!
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I grew up watching his videos, and while I found them entertaining, I too grew out of that type of humor. I'm for this character development and maturity. Good for Ian standing up for himself and his wife.
same i used to watch him all the time in middle school
I can't believe people are angry that he matured lmao
I don't think anyone is. People miss iDubbz actually making content. People would understand if he stopped swearing, but he's gone from being a really weird and random comedian to doing boring tier lists and toy reviews. He seems really depressed in his latest videos too.
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Definitely did not expect him to apologize for the Tana video or the slurs, good for him for acknowledging his shitty behavior and growing from it. Yes, Tana deserved a bit of a callout, but not to the degree of harassment, especially not irl.
Idk she made up a pretty messed up lie about him this makes it sound like what she did wasn't 1000 x worse than him saying a slur
@@snoozyq9576 he took an internet feud into real life. That was crossing a boundary
@@ashashraa6579 all she said was that he harassed her (because he did), she never said he SEXUALLY assaulted her. You’ll have to link that tweet. The worst she ever did was tell him to kys because he openly used slurs, which is what triggered him to make an entire content cop on her being a hypocrite.
@@reyrats My bad. I'm terribly sorry.
In my country Tanna would have gone to jail for what she did.
The apology comes too late, but I am still happy he made it. There are three camps of idubbbz fans-the ones that liked the goofy but not the slurs, the ones that liked the slurs, and the ones that liked both. Unfortunately, the portion of his fanbase that followed him for the slurs and edgelord humor are the kind of people that take offense to anyone “breaking ranks” and developing a compassionate bone or even a hint of empathy. Ian attracted apathetic, mean, nasty people who in fact went on to bully other people, and rationalized it by acting like it was the victim’s fault if they got upset, that ‘words don’t have power if you don’t give it power’, and all that shit said by people that have never been on the receiving end of hate in their life (and no, ‘radical ‘man hating’ sjw feminists’ don’t count).
Then they call him a cuck because his GF does onlyfans, which proves how unimaginative and one track minded they are: all they can think about is ‘beta cuck’ and ‘I should be able to be mean and rude to minorities without consequence’. Ian also created a climate that seemed eager to dogpile on anyone who was the least bit cringe or vulnerable, so Ian, being insecure himself, tried to head that off at the pass by calling it out first. And now that he’s mellowed out, those edgy fans turn on him. How predictable.
he is 100% genuine. been watching him on and off for years, i was into his content (yes, i know... but i always just saw it as haha dark humour not my actual way of seeing the world? i was also a preteen lol)
he's been "arguing" with his edgier fan base for a while. especially because of his gf Anisa who did and/or does OF, so alllll the edgy boys started to call him a simp, a cuck, and just started to bully him, saying he became what he used to make fun for. he made a video about it and basically said "wtf is wrong with y'all" but the edgy ppl didn't care. this is just one instance, there are more, even earlier in the days (when he critiqued his fan base or even himself for being too edgy/unfunny).
same thing happend to filthy frank. he was 10 times "worse" than ian and when he finally stopped making content and started music, his edgy fan base started laughing at him too. he never really adressed his shift from what i know.
ian observed this, what type of people he attracted and for sure saw it was getting serious and dangerous.
i am so happy for him and his growth.
Frank (Joji) even made a fucking video talking about his health concerns and got bullied for that. That behavior is fucking insane
@@gilly_axolotl yup, i remember:( and now these weirdos are mad at him for giving up on this character and are even hoping he'll return???? jesus
As a black person who grew up in predominantly white areas I have zero tolerance for racism. idubbz is a grown man, I’m tired of these problematic content creators acting like they’re oblivious to the large affects racism and homophobia have. And the narrative that they had good intentions is just bs to me, how is making racist and homophobic jokes conveying any good intentions?? I’m sorry but I do not forgive racism ever, there is no excuse or reasoning in the world to try to explain yourself for your behavior. I’m not saying people can’t change and I can give credit where it’s due, but at the end of the day racist behavior will forever be harmful whether it’s in the past or the present.
this is how I feel about it too especially being someone who also was in a predominantly white area and was in middle school when he was at his peak. I can never forgive the ramifications his actions caused like the racism I experienced from his fans back then was INSANE
I feel this.
You’re right. Ian addressed that whatever his ‘intentions’, he was being an idiot and self-important and contributing to bigotry by trying to normalize the use of slurs. But ai think you misunderstand: it is not that he didn’t know how harmful racism was, it’s that he didn’t really care, which is a huge difference of intention. He fully acknowledges it and that nothing he can say or do will make up for it, which is sort of a bit of consolation for me. It’s infinitely better than someone wanting praise for trying to be better. I don’t think he’s looking for that, or begging for forgiveness. He is apologizing because it’s the right thing to do, without expectation of being forgiven. He knows that many people will not forgive him, and you have the right to not forgive him because you were the one hurt. He knows that and will have to live with knowing he created such a bigoted community on the internet that spilled over into real life. Guilt is of course something that it’s intangible and not a good enough punishment for many, but unfortunately we can’t prosecute him for saying slurs.
Like you being racist to Asians? Bitch, sit your ass down. Everyone can be racist. One way or another. May it be conscious, unconscious, or learned. The important thing is how we grow and be better people, to ourselves to others.
You’re 1000% right. I feel like a lot of non black people don’t get that a lot of his “comedy” had a massive and irreparable contribution to the alt-right pipeline of TH-cam. Like first it was him, then probably an anti sjw TH-camr like Shoe0nHead (if you’re familiar with her), then right wing pundits like Steven Crowder, Candice Jones, Blair White, Matt Walsh, and Ben Shapiro, Alex Jones ect. and finally those “race realists” that spew white nationalist rhetoric and call for violence. And we’ve seen people actually get killed due to racially motivated mass killings because of this pipeline in the past 10 years, and there is a direct link to creators who pushed these people through these pipelines in conjunction with TH-cams’s screwed up algorithms. It’s like the people who didn’t have to worry about a non black kid justifying saying the N word with a video he made don’t have a say. As a black kid who grew up in a nearly all white area during this edgy era of TH-cam as well, his apology was way too late. And while I’m glad he’s grown, he will never even be able to fully reverse the trauma and hurt and pain he has caused onto minorities in this lifetime.
This is just how he talks. In fact, I think this is the most genuine and open I’ve ever seen him. He’s very socially awkward lol, always hiding behind a layer of irony. So it’s impressive to see him do this
I never really watched his videos but I was definitely impressed by this apology. The only thing I really knew about him was the Tana situation. Glad to see a creator actually taking accountability for their actions!
I think the video apology was very sincere and the fact that he is also donating money to organizations is great. The comment that the trans person made also made him become self aware how insensitive he was being and make changes. We are all evolving in this world hopefully towards being better humans. I really appreciate his video.
He appeared in some H3 videos way back when, and one fairly recently. I always preferred him in those, where he was just a goofy idiot with a dumb, somewhat childish, sense of humour. I think, like most people in his position, he got caught up in this toxic echo chamber where everyone agreed with him. That's in no way an excuse btw. I think this apology is a step in the right direction and I can only hope he's true to his word.
love all the kindness in these comments ❤if we can’t allow people to grow and change, what’s even the point?
It’s not pathetic to struggle with insecurity!!!!
i never liked iDubbz but my edgy high school boyfriend did, so i've watched said past content with a bad taste in my mouth. this was a good ass and raw apology from what I KNOW of iDubbz. He's always been right in the aspect he does not "tell his audience what to do" but he's taking accountability for the whole generation of edgy/toxic boys.. that he did inherently encourage the behaviors of.
He got me with being responsible for his audience AND the donating and changing we will see but he's doing what we all ask from creators who we want to change. I don't know what more he could do
I love how this apology is either too much or too little. At this point his old hard core fans hate him and the people he's apologising to also hate him. It's sad to see so much hate going his way even though he's actively trying to do better.
Words are meaningless.
If he really cares he would have completely deleted his videos, instead of privating them, (his channel keeps it's view and like count).
He would have also donated the millions of dollars he made to a relevant charity, not just the ~25k from the apology video.
I never watched Idubbz. I knew of him but was never intrested in his content. I don't expect people who were affected by his content to forgive and forget however in our current post Andrew Tate internet, I think this kind of honesty coming from someone as popular as he was, is important. We can all see these edgy jerks are insecure and pathetic but it's always harder to admit it within yourself. People will deny and deny because it's too painful to admit you were hurtful/wrong. The bigger/popular you are, the harder it probably is to publicly admit it. I think this video was very genuine and shows a lot of growth and his part. I think this is a good start and most importantly a good example to the young edgelords that watch him. If he can admit it and try to be better, so can they. I hope some of his audience is able to reflect in the same way. I hope some of the similar creators can too because Idubbz is sadly not the only one who made/makes cruel content.
He needs to coach Shane on how to apologize
The “What the fuck does coping mean” took me out in a way I was not expecting lol
it's up to each person individually to decide to forgive him
i knew about stuff but i was never an avid watcher because i obviously didn't like him using slurs etc.
i will say though, this is a pretty solid apology and it shows he is well aware of what he's done and that's the first step
wish i could have seen the same type of apology from other content creators like shane etc. but they likely haven't even fully realized what they have done wrong other than 'people didn't like it'
you can't fully apologize correctly until you fully know what you did wrong
Tbh I wish my dad would watch this video and take your advice on apologies 😂
I remember when he was at his peak. I was in highschool and I couldnt even go to class because his fans had been so indoctrinated they would wish death and worse things on me. The apology is too late. His actions have affected mainstream culture in big ways and the hatred he spewed has been planted in too many peoples heads.
I experienced this too and i have to disagree. He is not the sole reason for that behavior and it’s honestly delusional to suggest that. HIS behavior had an origin too. They got that shit from reddit & 4chan. They were gonna be racist, ableist, and homophobic regardless. At least this is a video of someone they, at one point, looked up to, saying “that shit was stupid as fuck.” Maybe it’ll make some of those losers feel stupid. I got screamed at being called a faggot and dyke every day in school. i want those people to hear that their behavior was stupid and was never okay. especially from someone they looked up to.
I was at that Tana meet and greet and when I met her you could tell that she was shook up by something :/ Glad he apologized and that it’s being well received, he seems like a really good dude that knows he made mistakes. I love seeing genuine growth in people.
There is something to be said for being fully cognizant of one’s misdeeds and be completely apologetic for them. Now what most fail to do is actually atone for those misdeeds, “what are the actions be taken to correct those wrongs”??
Just got to the donation portion of the video, that’s big of him. Is it enough for the years of his influence on young minds? Who knows, good step in the right direction. Good for him.
I think this apology is awesome. I believe that mentality of “i dont forgive him because he still said it” is hurtful to good causes. We call ignorant or raised badly to people who are racist (and they are) but when they begin to gain empathy, maturity and accountability for their previous racism many reject it. Individually of course everyone can forgive or not as they see fit. But as a society, we need more of this. We all understand systems of racism and bigotry are so embedded, especially when youre a privileged white male its a system that benefits you so it’s obvious some tropes will automatically be in you, and though that is not an excuse, in order for human and societal progress into equality, i think we need to be more forgiving when its genuine which this seems to be or if not whats the point of any of it? Isnt change and progression and accountability the goal?
As someone who was 16/17 when the Tana video came out, I thought it was extremely funny back then. I’m here for the growth that not only I have went through, but Ian too.
Tana was a racist pos, she deserved it.
I had no idea at all about idubbbz before you put this video up, but after watching D’angelo’s video i dont think something like what hes been doing/ saying shouldve be forgiven so easily.
i like that at least he didn’t separate himself from his old self like shane did
wtff i was literally just thinking about this yesterday! how tana is friends with ethan now, i was wondering if he'd ever bring up the idubbz drama since ethan is friends with him too. i was thinking how tana was barely problematic in that situation at all from what i can remember like... how did idubbz ever come off like the "good guy" in that scandal
it was because people were calling her out for saying the n word and she apologized but also justified it by saying she knew the word as "homie". That doesn't make what idubbz did ok but thats why the situation turned out the way it did.
People had, and some might still have, an image of Tana being this messy, trashy person. Yet Idubbz was put on this pedestal as being this no-nonsense guy who would call out the behaviour of "problematic" influencers. People just perceived him as being the better, more "righteous", individual.
I think you’re forgetting the fact that he did it to call tana out for using it on her own in her past. Not saying anyone is the right, but that’s how he “came out to be the good guy.”
@@pinheadlarry2921 i remember that, it’s just that he literally went out to say it to her irl and made a whole video saying it and defending it, plus that stupid “it’s all bad or none of its bad” edgelord argument. i didn’t mean to say tana was “barely problematic” because she deserved to get called out for saying the n word in the past and being a hypocrite, but idubbz had such a bad take. like at least tana was just a dumbass teenager, idubbz way of exposing her was defending/using the hard R like ??
@@goblin_corpse ikr i hate that edgelord appeal to “rational” arguments like that, i can only imagine how much more that contributed to defending slurs/racism compared to tanas use of the word (not that her usage is more acceptable but i just hate that o many people supported idubbz’s take in that controversy)
I used to watch him when I didn't realize what those words meant, but now that I'm thinking about I really like the direction he's going with this and the fact that he's donating the proceeds. Somebody mentioned it in chat but him saying he didn't really feel empathy makes me think he could have a personality disorder.
a lot of young people don’t really develop empathy until they are older. I imagine it’s more common in boys. I think the way he describes it makes sense. You think you are an empathetic person, but until you mature, you can’t realize that you really weren’t.
I don't feel like he is genuine at all. He probably feels pressured to address it after H3 fans calling him our for past actions and Ethan enabling it all. Also, he's aware that there's a divide in audience of teen boys who fell in love with his 'I'm untouchable' attitude and people tuning in for Creator Clash. This all started many, many years ago. Zero excuse for taking this long whilst making loads of money.
Idk why but your videos make me happy. It really feels like catching up with a friend lol
Sidenote does anyone actually take him seriously after he harassed Tana for clout? I feel like his audience skews very young and naive
also adam i respect you so much for having kylie minogue nightcore in your recommended tab LMAO
and Lana Del Rey loll
I was a fan of iDubbbz as a teenager. I liked the humor but the bigotry made me uncomfortable. I really respect him for this apology.
obviously it’s good that he’s allegedly grown as a person and i’m glad he addressed how much harm he has caused to so many communities and how many young people he pushed into an alt right pipeline but…. come on. he’s a grown ass man and he was a grown ass man during this whole time. he really had so many opportunities to be better rather than waiting until now when he really (no offense) isn’t that generally relevant anymore. i think this is bare minimum and nobody should be praising this.
why is it bad to praise someone who apologizes in earnest? More people need to see it’s ok to apologize and want to change.
Coping is like trying ta deal with something really personal by distancing yourself, kinda like escapism. People cope with drugs, dissassociating etc. It's technically coping mechanisms. It doesn't always have to be toxic or avoidance seeking but it usually is. It could be daydreaming, meditation, visualization exercises it depends, just trying to deal with something. I really respect I dubbz for this apology, b'cuz he really acknowledged his mistakes n is fully aware of his impact. And he came to tht conclusion on his own for the most part. Im sure ppl tried telling him at different times in his life and he didn't see it, but that's life and how people work. Ppl have really high expectations for influencers and I understand why, but people don't apologize like this in day to day life. Ppl are constantly holding influencers to the highest standards they couldnt even meet themselves, and sure theyre actions and behaivors affect a larger amount of people, and a lot of times they dont care to change, but want to keep support. It's not necessary ta make a perfect apology depending on most situations. But he got pretty close and did so of his own accord and thats admirable. Whether I or anyone likes him or his content we need to allow ppl to grow and change. I feel bad because a lot of his audience past n some present are really taking his change and denouncing his past content personally, and aren't happy. Irregardless of whether ppl belive content cop was inherently bad, he does and that's what matters. He fostered a community where ppl cld hide behind humor and used him to validate their own toxic behaviors. I wldnt even say the majority of his audience where like tht, but then again only I dubbz knows as he saw his own impact first hand. It doesn't matter if it's not the majority, a minority in an audience of his size is still pretty large. N honestly there are a lot of ppl like I dubbz who don't recognize that their behavior impacts ppl negatively, b'cuz it doesn't impact themselves personally, and sometimes it affecting themselves personally is what it takes to understand that words have weight and affect ppl. Everyone likes to harp on actions speak louder then words, n yes that's true a lot of the time, but words are not insignificant.
Say what u want- ppl could always do better and obvi it’s better to of never said anything . But I think he’s handling it the best he can at THIS point
I think we've gotten used to such h*ll below standard that suddenly this apology video is seen as "impressive". But in reality this is still the bare minimum. It's the actions done both in the past & future that matter the most, this is just plain talk at least to me (who happens to be part of multiple minorities). Also these apologies they feel more each day like "I'm calling myself out before others do & suffer the consequences" over something that is literally COMMON SENSE which is literally don't be an A-hole.
The truth is though, he is an A-hole. He won't even respond to Airsoft Fatty, even though they're meant to be friends and the guy's mum died and he's been evicted.
This is either super genuine or him and Tana are going to get together within a year
I’m sorry but I hate that Jenna was brought up- his apology is nothing like hers simply because she wasn’t out here saying literal slurs left and right like it’s nothing while he was. Yes I’m happy that he’s apologized with an actual good apology and yes I’m happy that he’s growing as a person- but I feel like people are giving him to much praise. He doesn’t deserve praise for not saying slurs and for not bullying people, no one does because it’s basic human decency- and this is coming from someone who has MASSIVE issues with empathy to the point where I don’t think I have it a majority of the time. Yet I still know what is good and bad, it’s a great apology and I hope he does well from here on out but his past mistakes are just to much to give him praise for this apology.
Also I feel like he should take a small pause on his content and spotlight some creators from the groups he’s said bad things about and make a few vids educating people. Like yea I understand why he wants to continue to make his own normal content but the damage he’s done is just to much, I literally got bullied so hard from his fans back in middle school and I know a lot of other people have to.
girl she wore black face
@@pinheadlarry2921 poor queen Jenna can’t do no wrong she only did it because she had to. I don’t think her apology was the best it was better then what we got from anybody else at the time.
I'm glad Ian waited to post this until after Creator Clash 2. It would've come across as him trying to get interest in his show.
7:00pm exactly
We love the growth of idubbbz. His video here and interview with Anthony are amazing.
No such thing as casual hatred.
The full tana story was she was saying the N word for years and then was a hypocrite and called someone a racist and hateful for using that word and so he went there and said that "saaaay (the N word)" and then she makes a story time video exaggerating because she didn't know who he was and she said he held her in a chokehold which was a lie because he took a video of the encounter. And so she got called out again for lying and exaggerating her stories and especially when it comes to feeling like you have been assaulted as a woman... She could disagree and hate what he said but she doesn't have to lie about what he's done to her, he just put his hands around her back and said that phrase and then walked away and she made it out to look and sound a lot worse. THAT is the full context of that story.
WE STARTED CRYING AT THE SAME TIME AND ITS 4PM FOR ME I HAVE NO EXCUSE
don’t worry sis me too and i just woke up no excuses here either
do stupid things win stupid prizes. you raised a culture of normalizing the n word for YEARS. in my eyes he’s no better than shane. they were both old enough to know wtf they was doing 🧍🏾♀️
link me to where Shane takes full accountability with no excuses for the worst things he has done
@@XCeazyX he knew wtf he was saying even then idk why ppl age acting like everyone was saying the n word and f slurs all of 2016 wtf
Realize how only white ppl are forgiving his behavior??? Sorry but this grown ass man knew wtf he was saying, i dnt believe this one bit
If everyone's trying to deplatform Shane Dawson why tf are we not deplatforming idubbz I don't get why he got away with so much
I think you should cover the interview. That could be interesting to hear what he says and what you think.
Omg two days old but I had the perfect combo for watching your video, 🍃 and a meal I just made 👌🏼👌🏼
he's still a nightmare
What I find interesting about the case of idubbz is he willingly stepped away from content cop because he saw what his audience and impact was from that organically and was disgusted even though he was making crazy money off it. He’s been taking steps back since rice gum even tho no one was asking him to do it… I do believe he’s genuine but I’m not the people who was affected by his bad actions so I can’t be the one to forgive him
At least he knows how to do an apology video since he’s the only one to actually address and show what he was talking about no one else has done anything close to that yeh
I think about people like Jake Doolittle, who grew up watching Shane Dawson and thinking the disgusting jokes and comments he made were funny until he saw how people reacted
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Tbh, I was shocked that things always seemed so acceptable whenever iDubbz said controversial, edgy things. Like other creators would be called, but for some reason, no one hardly ever called out iDubbz. In regards to the Tana situation, I think they're both guilty. Tana's just an awful hypocritical person in general, and iDubbz was being stupid.
I am going to be honest, i didnt watch him before or was a fan however just by looking at his old content i do see some hypocrisy. I get that people grow up and change opinions however to bash everything that bilt you up to where you are and still use words like the R word as an insult and charry picking clips for his "apology" video where if you go back to the same clips he has shown and just look at a few frams back it is blatantly contradictory and not addressed things fully i would feel like it would be a slap in the face for some of his fans. So as an outsider this reads to me as a bit misleading... I dont agree with everything i have done or said in the past today but i do understand why i held those opinions at the time and i dont regret having an old opinion because i was still learning... And this is whats being talked about honestly, its all opinions. You cant say hey, I was on this journey to find my something and then regret the journey if you are happy you reached the outcome of that journe. It means you are more understanding today and as a result this reads as damage control and less about learning from your past and walking through how you changed your mind about big talking topics.
hoping to see this from Trisha one day
Thanks!
Watching this video at 720pm on Friday
I feel like most people already said it. On the positive side, I did appreciate him showing what he said on the boxing podcast and saying that he was still making excuses at the time for something that was dumb and should have never been done. He acknowledged his stupidity and I appreciate that. However, I view his content at that time as equal to Shane Dawson’s content. I wasn’t aware of his videos until the Tana thing but after looking through some of them, he was the typical cis straight white male offending every community the way that Shane Dawson did (I know Shane is not straight now but back then he was viewed that way and they both used homophobic, ableist and racial slurs). When it came to Jenna Marbles, she ended up proving in the video that she was not doing blackface and she just had a tan that looked darker and made it look like she darkened her skin to mimic Nicki Minaj. Jenna Marbles had nothing to apologize for when it came to the black community and I am still mad at the people who falsely accused her of black face. She did make Asian jokes and slut shame jokes which are not things I can accept but that is why I personally can “forgive” Jenna (even though she had nothing to apologize for in my opinion). But with Shane and idubbz the content that they made goes SO deep with the offensive content. They built their platform off offending these communities.
adam i genuinely don't think you realize how bad content cop was and the lasting effects it has had
If the FroggyFresh situation didn’t happen, he would have never made this video. That’s all you need to know about how genuine he his.
His Antony Padilla interview happened months before the froggyfresh situation. There he shared the same regrets and sentiments.
@@blib4328 And?
ADAM IM SUCH AN EMPTIONAL PERSON DONT JUST PAUSE AND SAY UR GONNA CRY CUS IM YONNA CRYYY😭😭
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Why's he look so weird with no glasses 😂😂
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it feels like he is still justifying his past actions??
It seems to me he’s trying to position himself as above his fans. Like he says multiple times he realized his content was problematic when his fans were actually racist and homophobic shocker 😮. If you make racist and homophobic jokes you’re opening your content up to people who are bigots. I don’t believe he himself isnt a bigot considering the fact it takes one to make the kind of content he did. I don’t like the fact he tries to alienate himself from his fan base which he literally created and inspired to go out into the world and spew his bigotry. He is SO MUCH WORSE than any of his viewers because he was literally there leader. All he had to do was read the comments on his video to know what he stood for was wrong. His apology was not good enough and I don’t think it was genuine if he truly had grown he’d admit he was a bigot not just pretending to be one.
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Oh shit
People wanted an apology. He had drama for kicking froggy fresh from the creator clash for making comments towards his wife and training with someone he dislikes with this people started calling him a hypocrite because he’s never addressed his content cop content or that he had changed his views, yes he passively did so but it was never addressed prior too. It wasn’t out of no where’s and not anything like the Jenna marbles situation.
tbh idubbbz can go to the morgue for all i care
Omg I'm early to an Adam video!!!
thank you so much!!!!!
Boo Adam boo
Ive been wondering if youre gonna address Ethan calling you a bottom feeder on Tuesday's episode but i guess not?
i thought it was funny i already talked about it on stream
@@AdamMcIntyre i loved your response adam lol
In my opinion, he's apologizing now because he's afraid of the woke mob, which is sad. Somewhere, there will always be someone offended. This is how comedy dies. Well, comedy worth watching at least. I dont know who this guy is but I know most influencers are afraid to say anything because of the woke mob.
I really thank you Adam that you share so much if your energetic youth. Sometimes i remember so well how i felt that age...enjoy every bit and dare dare as much as you can. Grasp tge chances snd do never wait til something happens. Its but you who makes everything possible and going!
Best wishes from Zurich ❤
this was one of the best apology videos i have ever seen on the internet
Hi there Adam