Hobart N50 Stand Mixer Review - Is it the best mixer for the home cook? KitchenAid Comparison
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- Hobart N50 Stand Mixer Review. Is it the best mixer for the home cook? It is better than the KitchenAid stand mixer? A lot of cooks love the Hobart N50 stand mixer. For the home cook, is this commercial kitchen equipment the best option? Join Amy as we try out this Hobart N50! What's up? It's Wednesday! I hope you have a great day!
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I’ve wanted one of these for so long and honestly I still do. I love my HL6 though and I feel for the price and my needs It’s perfect. Thank you for the awesome review as always. 🥰
Oh the sound of this would drive me nuts! I like quiet machines. Needless to say I think the price is not something most home bakers could afford. At least I don’t care for it so won’t care I can’t afford it. Lol. Thanks for taking the time!
If I've found the right numbers for the KA consumer mixers... the *maximum* rotational speed for the 5-quart (tilt head) i= 220 RPM; 5-quart (bowl lift) = 265 RPM; 7-quart (bowl lift) = 200 RPM. Compare that to the N50, where Speed #3 = *580 RPM*. And Speed #1 = 136 RPM; Speed #2 = 281 RPM. That explains a lot. That creaming was nothing short of spectacular. Thanks for sharing this mixer with us. Enjoy this beast.
OMG I have been waiting for this video!! The N50 whip is a BEAST and that cream had never seen such!! The paddle and creaming action was mesmerizing. When she added the peanut butter I could watch that mixing action all day. Yeah it was a little full lol of the cookie dough. It handled that dough like a charm perfectly, but the hook was banging the side of the bowl. That might hurt the mixer and/or bowl somehow idk it looked pretty dicey. Anyway it handled that dough magnificently!
I always wanted one, i actually bought one off of eBay but it arrived damaged and i returned it, ended uo buying a KitchenAid 7 quart based on your review and love it
This may be a perfect replacement for my kitchenaid. I will definitely keep this in mind when it finally kicks the bucket.
I have an h-5 the original home Kitchen Aid mixer. As time progressed, I purchased accessories for it, I only have the beater. BUT I purchased a colander, ceramic roller, hot and cold pie plate type thing to keep what you are mixing either hot or cold as you mix it, bowls, splash guard and pourer chute, I think that was about it. All those items I think are steel that need to be tinned. I also have a bowl like yours that is steel that was tinned - it looks very pretty, with the tin - it was sold with a huge label on it saying it had been tinned. I don't mind untinned items, I don't really want the tin coming off in my food. Steel is fine, even if it looks nasty, nothing will come off into the food, it is just very oxidized and dark. I love kitchen aid appliances. So many people complained about the newer kitchen aid appliances that use plastic gears that break, and say their moms and grandmothers had kitchen aid mixers for decades with nothing going wrong then they get the new ones with plastic gears and they fall apart and break. I have a n50 like yours, it is blue - but it has a defect and only works on one gear. One day I'll get it fixed. I have a 3a, and I think a 3b, they work great and the old classic too. Oh and for looks, I have some 1930's hamilton beach for style ! Magic maid also made some beautiful art deco style mixers too. Thanks for posting it was enjoyable watching you enjoy your new TOY. Be careful about your hair getting sucked into the mixer and getting snatched bald by the beater. I'd wear a nice hair net, Amazon sells them by the 100 lot, they are very cheap. Keeps your hair from getting into your food - something some of us older guys need to worry about - as we have a different hair count every day !
The sounds you are hearing are very typical of the Hobart N50. I have talked with several owners, and even someone who trades and sells this particular model, and they clearly state that ALL N50 mixers will sound just like yours. No need to worry about service. But if you ever do want it serviced, you will need to have that work done by a Hobart service center.
not really --- I took apart both of mine and regreased them.
Mr. Mixer also services hobart n50s.
I use a Kitchenaid Artisan for most baking and I use a Nutramill Artiste for double batches of Christmas cookies. I am very happy and satisfied with both of those. Thanks for your review Amy and Eric!
Some interesting things I learned about my two N50s:
First, these are not really mixers. They are machines with gears. If your hand ends up anywhere near the beater or hook and it somehow grabs on, you could absolutely have your hand ripped clean off. Safety first on these, as they don't really have the same kind of fail safe gear the Kitchenaid mixers do. There is a fibrous gear, but the machine has to completely jam in order for it to shred and your hand isn't enough to stop the thing.
The bowls do move around a little. It's weird. Both of mine do it too. Only with doughs.
You can adjust the lash screw to take out any internal lash/noise (Hobart refers to this as adjusting the tumbler yolk). There's also an eccentric shaft adjustment if it's clicking. However, both of mine with fresh synthetic food grade grease (far better than what Hobart recommends and uses) are still noisy. I think the older they get, the more they need a new spring on the tumbler, but I didn't realize that until I had already reassembled both. Now I don't see a point in taking them apart just to try out a new spring. It's commercial grade noise in my opinion and I'm not even sure a new spring would change it all that much.
It doesn't matter what you do with it, or how long it kneads dough without stopping --- the temperature of the mixer stays around 85F in the rear motor, and the transmission puts out zero heat. Compared to some of the Kitchenaid mixers (or even the HL6 I would imagine) where the motor housing will end up in the 150-200F range after 5-10 minutes of heavy load. These induction motors don't even give off an EMF field of any consequence.
Hobart recommends putting in flour first, then liquids. People do liquids first to better "hydrate" their dough so the mixer doesn't have to run as long. That isn't an issue here. You get a better (and less messy) result by putting flour in first, then adding liquid slowly. Croissant dough is very dense, and I have no issues making a recipe of 25~ (4" base) in one batch. It's also safer, as its more difficult putting the flour into the mixer whereas pouring in liquid is no problem at all safely.
I made a paper plate cover splash guard for both of mine. Use about 12 legal binder clips to hold it to the flat edge of the bowl (the Hobart bowls aren't flat --- that one is an older KA5 bowl). Could not find a plastic shield that wouldn't throw flour everywhere, and the Hobart metal shield cage doesn't do anything except keep hands where they don't belong. Also works for heavy doughs (like Croissants Detrempe or Bagel dough) that wants to climb up and over the hook disc.
The reason Hobart makes a stainless beater is for dishwasher purposes. The aluminum beater actually works better and puts less strain on the shaft/planetary ring. Same with the Hobart aluminum dough hook. But you have to wash them by hand (which isn't a big deal). Would highly recommend finding a vintage Hobart Pastry Knife off the old KA5? I think it is --- I have one, and works terrific for cutting butter into flour.
@GetEmSnappy You've provided some excellent information, but I have a correction: Hobart makes the stainless beater for machines that are used in laboratories. In government projects such as building dams, every batch of concrete must be tested to see if it meets specifications. Those machines are fitted with a special device to insure the bowl is at the exact correct height, and a stainless steel beater. An aluminum beater would quickly wear out and become useless in that environment. N50 mixers set up for laboratory use run in excess of $4,000, and while it's true that dishwasher detergent is corrosive to anything made out of aluminum, it's unlikely that someone will pay over $450 just so they can put the beater in the dishwasher, and avoid had washing, although someone may pay that much if they believe that using aluminum cooking utensils contribute to Alzheimer's disease. I got a stainless steel beater with my C-100 ten-quart mixer because the previous owner was afraid of Alzheimer's. It weighs a ton, and when Hobart was selling them it sold for over $800.
KitchenAid K5, K5A, and K5SS bowls are exactly the same as the N50 bowls, except that the commercial Hobart bowl has a flanged edge at the top, whereas the KitchenAid has a rolled edge. I have both, and it makes no difference to me when using them, except that I have KitchenAid plastic bowl covers that do not fit the flanged edge bowls. Her bowl appears to be flanged as far as I can tell in the video.
Hobart used to include the "E" dough arm, but now includes the "ED" dough arm with the N50 mixer. The ED dough arm is far more efficient. I have both, and never use the E dough arm. Being aluminum it needs to be hand washed, but it's no big deal to me, and I don't believe that any amount of aluminum ends up in my bread dough.
I have a Hobart N50 pastry knife. The KitchenAid pastry knife is 1/2-inch shorter, so you could use the KitchenAid knife on an N50, but it will be less efficient. You cannot use an N50 pastry knife on the KitchenAid. It's simply too tall.
I make bread at least once a week with mine. They are great if you are a serious home cook. I have a vintage KitchenAid K5SS made before Hobart sold to Whirlpool, that I use for light duty stuff. You can make bread with it unless you have a heavy dough. Then you have to let it rest and cool off intermittently.
@@oldmaninthecave I generally only write responses to TH-cam on my phone, while on the toilet. Since you've written a long, and interesting response I'm giving it some actual attention since I recognize you as Harold from TFL.
I'm aware of the ATSM versions of the mixers. While the stainless version of the beater makes sense for them, the rest of what you said doesn't. Kitchenaid provides stainless attachments for a great deal of their mixers, and no one is mixing concrete with them. It's for a myriad of reasons Hobart makes stainless attachments. The aluminum attachments are extremely unlikely to put anything in the food. Aluminum can react to certain foods, which is another reason why they have stainless attachments that would be for a specific purpose. The extreme weight of the stainless is actually quite bad for the gears of an N50 versus the aluminum.
Every N50 is at the exact proper height. There is no adjustment to the bowl. The spring located in the neck with the adjustable nut only changes the tension on the handle, and how much force is pulling the bowl up into place where the bowl arm directly impacts into the neck stop. The bowl cannot be adjusted. This isn't a Kitchenaid. That's why if you bend the neck shipping one, you have to replace the neck piece of the mixer.
One of the Hobart N50s I have is from 1983, and came with all 3 attachments including the ED hook. It depended on the vendor if they sold you the E instead. The other one I bought without any accessories and is the newer style handle. Your 1960s unit is the same as both of mine, for all intents and purposes. I personally prefer the older one with the chrome handle and flat switch. It's likely that Hobart changed quite a bit of their "accessories" with the unit when they stopped producing them in the USA. I haven't figured out what year they did that. Those N50-60 models "assembled in USA" aren't real Hobarts as far as I'm concerned. The spiral hook is the only way to go in my opinion --- ED all the way.
Hobart never produced a pastry knife for the N50. The closest they produced was for the model G (I said Kitchenaid above which was wrong --- I keep forgetting the model G is actually a Hobart branded mixer), which sits less than 1/8" above the bottom of the standard flanged Hobart N50 bowl (this is the one I have, with the two edges... that third party company that sells them doesn't put blades on the edges).
The bowls from the K5/K5A/K5SS are not exactly the same. I have two I bought for $10 that were new, old stock K5ASB in the boxes with all the vintage paperwork. They're close enough to my actual Hobart bowl with the flange but I strictly use them with the whip/whisk. I would always recommend testing the attachments before running the mixer, as the clearances are slightly different between the KA bowls, and the actual Hobart bowls. The tolerances are close --- if you can slide a sheet of paper underneath the attachment and the bowl, you have clearance.
On average, I use them 1-2 times per day for something. They work great for everything from bagel dough to whipping egg whites. I wouldn't ever sell either one, and I have practically nothing in them (maybe $500 for both, with $60 of that being grease for the transmission).
I considered buying a larger one, but find it impractical for a house which is why I ended up with two N50s. Depending on the recipe, I find that 1200-1400g flour recipes to be at the max capacity for an N50.
When you're not using it in the kitchen, you could hook it up to your boat and pull 2 or 3 skiers...
The kitchen aid model 'G' 1927 to not sure - is basically the same as this mixer. Incase you ever see items for a model g they will be usable with this mixer.
Hi Thank you for the video. Please can you advise if any other Kitchenaid bowls are compatible with N50? Regards. Also.. please can you do a video comparing dough hooks and kneading? I use this mixer and in my opinion, the N50 is superlative at cake mixing, Super fast and glorious. It is literally the best in whipping as well. But I do wish they made a better dough hook! It is powerful but the dough hook could have been better designed? Can you think of other hooks that can be interchanged with the N50?
great mixer i have one at home
How many cookies does a single batch of that cookie dough make? I must be using a really small recipe that fits fine in a K5-A KitchenAid when I double it.
Please review 'Teddy vari mixer" 5 qts.
I would love to have a Vari Teddy! They look awesome!
I'd be curious how his compares with the Ank.
So would I!
There is no comparison. The Hobart is far better than the Ank. I have both.
It really kneads that dough good.
I agree that this mixer does a great job on cookies, I love the product that it puts out at Christmas time, but the bread dough isn’t fantastic. I also have a Sunmix 6, roughly equivalent to Amy’s Famag spiral mixer, and that style of mixer hands down wins at dough production. I love them both, but use them only for the things that they excel at.
It is not a dent, it is a beauty mark. Try your hl6 bowl in this mixer see if it works.
So many "wows" LOL.. I'm definitely a Kenwood (Overseas Version) mixer lover.. What would be the modern version of this Hobart with more speeds, interior lights, a built in scale but similar power -- I can dream, right?
Oh on ebay - they sell used hobart kitchen items - some beautiful old coffee grinders - and they sell mixers in (like yours) 5 quart, 10 quart, 20 quart, 30 quart, 60 quart sizes, not sure about 40 or 50 quart. Talk about a beast, oh I think I saw an 80 quart pizza mixer. You could take a bath in the bowl. I'm sure all of them are more or less designed to last a few life times. Some of them for what they do - used - are very reasonable priced, compared to what they cost new I am sure. For a company it is a tax write off, for a house wife or house husband - maybe not so much of a tax write off. Keep cooking.
Step away from the wide bowl! A splash shield and a proper pouring chute would definitely help.
Need the Hobart dough hook. Wahh. But why cry over some spilled flour if I can save $200?
@@EricLearnstoCook It's the high speed applications with the aforementioned whisk for Meringue as well as the successful applications of the Whipped Cream and Butter production that warrants the splash shield. One needs to embrace and take advantage, if you will, the readily available access to cream since the invention of the first (hand-cranked) centrifugal milk-cream separator in the late 19th century by Gustaf de Laval. And as far as Meringue goes, we can all certainly appreciate the beauty and wonder of the science of the stretching out and unraveling the proteins as they end up lining up because the hydrophilic ends are attracted to water in the egg white and the hydrophobic ends are repelled and attracted to the air in the pockets. Eventually the protein coating of the air pockets link together, making a foam. But I digress, the reason for the pouring chute is that "Cleanliness is next to Godliness". I am just trying to shelter you from the dreaded "CHAOS IN THE KITCHEN!"😱😱😱 Throughout life one mus avoid the floccinaucities. By the way, I think you might have got some whipped cream on your face in the video while sampling it. Love you Guys, Love the videos, keep up the great work👍👍👍
Ma’am, I think YOU may be creaming better than the Hobart hahaha ❤ great vid
I think it looks pretty and beautiful
Thanks!
I have one and i love it! Worked great for my pizza dough, 1kg flour, 720gr water and it didnt skip a beat!!
I have never seen a mixer that whipped cream or egg whites as fast as this little guy and ive worked as a chef for 20 years.
Did y’all say how many quarts this is? Thx!
5 quarts smaller than the HL6
The bowl is too small for the capacity of the mixer. It would be good for bread dough but no more than a 2 loaf recipe.
About the bowl capacity, you are exactly correct. When she mentioned about the price of this mixer, she might want to keep in mind that some folks who sew will spend $8,000.00 on a sewing machine, and might use it once a month. So, put that into perspective. Over all, this was a pretty good review. I actually think the standard dough hook that comes with the N50 might work better, but the HL6 dough hook still did a pretty good job.
Thank you. We will likely get the dough hook that's made for the N50.
Where did you find a stainless steel paddle for $200?
I got it on ebay. It was actually new at that price.
It looks like a great white whale. I love it. I wonder what the idea behind it is being as it's so powerful but having a bowl too small to knead much bread dough
Maybe it allows you to beat bagel dough without killing it? It is commercial so it will run day and night unlike home machines.
@@EricLearnstoCook You should add a clutch pedal to it LOL
So for 4400. it comes with an aluminum paddle. Wow. Use it in good health. I wish I baked enough bread to warrant this because I think it’s very sleek.
I think your bowl may have a divit - a part in the back that sicks out, and that stuck out part - goes into a divit on the back of the mixer to hold it more steady. Check and see. [ [ Like a belly button type thing. I don't think you had it pushed in properly. I think it would have been more steady if you had.
Home cook families will pass this mixer down to their 7th generation, if they use it only on the weekends. 😅
Funny! Actually home cooks will pass this down to the 7th generation and beyond, even if they use it every day. Until you see and use one, you don't realize just what a beast the N50 is. They are used in laboratories to test batches of concrete. The sound you hear is because they have an actual geared transmission with straight cut gears.
Would you consider selling one of your Hobart N50 Mixers. I am a bread baker. Thank you
No. I only have 1 N50 and I am just starting to use it.
I have two. I wouldn’t sell either one.
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don't do this to me, Amy.
24:50 Oop
I just need one for 200. CDN dollars please. Thanks in advance .
Well, tihis costs 10 KitchenAids. Hard pass, I am not sure why Hobart is so overpriced. Will look for used one or some chinese stuff - this is as ugly as those for more advanced home dough making. Good video, thank you!
I am not sure "how important as a cook" is accurate... if you're ultra serious about cooking, but you move light amounts of material, in a way where you need variable speed control, this is the wrong mixer for you, regardless of it's it's free, or cost a million dollars.
I agree. Look at what you make, and get the mixer that excels in that range.
sweety as young as you are and can't lift 50 pounds girl something is wrong there. I am way over 60 yrs and can throw 50 pound around like nothing. i lift 50 pound around all day long at my job.. you need to lift weights start small then keep going up. your to young to be that weak. you can do it. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hobart …. Kitchen aid should go to bed , there is no comparison
Hate to tell you,, an Ank is better.
Just buy the Ankarsum and be done with it!!!
She already has the Ankarsrum.
Yep! Two actually LOL!
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