Something's Not Adding Up? - The Acolyte Season 1 Eps 4 Reaction
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- Jay and Adam react, review, riff, and rate the fourth, hol' up a minute, episode of Star Wars The Acolyte.
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The flashback episode is presented through Osha’s perspective & memory. The Mae in the flashbacks seems partially built by real memories, but also possibly a narrative that the Jedi fed her to reduce the trauma around what really happened? Like, I wouldn’t be shocked to find out Osha started the fire/threatened to kill her sister/etc… & when Mae fell the Jedi thought “Welp, the good one died, let’s try to fix the bad one by convincing her she was always the good one.”
that sounds like quite the reach >.>
@@kenaletooh I believe this show runner would do it. It is a terrible idea and makes for a stupid story. Completely what I expect.
Not gonna lie, I thought the Sith stabbed Osha when he first ignited the lightsaber.
yeah i thought he cut her in half
That would have been a good turn.
Mind you getting stabbed with a lightsaber, isn't that lethal nowadays in Disney Star Wars 😂
I think there is a misconception here of Mae and Oshas dynamic and one that I think gets people to think mae is all over the place in this episode and then in 5. It's that everything she does is to keep her sister with her. Her entire identity is wrapped up in being a twin. Even if she sets the fire, which is...unsure at the moment, she does it because she's trying to keep osha from leaving. Her leaving is worse than death to mae, its why she'd give up her quest for revenge because all she wants is her sister back, and when thats taken from her she again seeks out retribution
Yeah but that's literally making a story where Mae think the Jedi killed her *entire* family including her two moms, but she's willing to let that go if her sister is still alive.
On one hand, sure it's very character consistent for her to be obsessed with her sister if that's the case. But on the other hand, a character who is consistently irrational is still a rational and it's difficult to be emotionally invested in her. "Everything I was taught about the Jedi is a lie". How?! Shouldn't you still think they murdered your moms? Shouldn't you still believe that they steal children from their families?
Star Wars fans are perfectly capable of criticizing Anakin's rushed and irrational fall to the dark side. Are we allowed to criticize a main character who is so obsessed with her sister that she can forgive her apparent mother's murderers if they spared her sister?
(Like people saying Mae isn't a psycho because she was willing to kill an innocent person for literally no reason BUT THEN changed her mind when she saw a kid. As if being willing to kill bystanders in the first place is rational behavior...)
@@Cityweaver mae wasn't taught by the jedi, her desire to kill the jedi responsible for killing her family is lessened because she knows her sister is alive and if she continues to kill kelnacca and sol, she loses any chance of reconciliation with osha. Yes she still hates the jedi for what she believes happened to her mothers, but killing them ruins her chances of being with mae. That's what she wants.
@@jjv124 Where did I say that the Jedi taught Mae? I quoted the show. "Everything I was taught ABOUT the Jedi is a lie."
Why would murdering 4 people instead of 2 change her ability to "reconcile" with her sister? What human rationality is that? 🤨
@@Cityweaver who says everything I was taught by the jedi was a lie? Because you are now asking mae to take on a narrative that isnt hers. It may not make sense that people would see a difference in 2-4 in terms of getting her sisters forgiveness, but if she believes she says look i thought they killed you as well as mom and I became too tempted by darkness but i changed. That is enough the jedi have weirdly more than anyone seen the ability to forgive past mistakes because they understand the allure of the darkside
@@jjv124 What does that have to do with you originally disagreeing with something I didn't say? 🤣
I appreciate that you guys are being positive with this and giving it a fair shake with it…. good or not.
This show made Jay look upon a ship he actually doesn’t like. They have committed one of the gravest crimes. At least we still have a Wookiee Jedi that can join the team…Oh NOOOO
Seems to be the same ship from the first episode. So I guess the crime is finding a bad angle of a ship Jay already likes. ;)
@@The2ndQuest Or just getting a better look at a design that seemed good, but maybe juuuust didn’t have enough to hold up as a repeating vessel. Some designs work as a strong silhouette, and just don’t hit right when you see the details.
@@JonathanMartinez-ei4up It's possible- but it is also quite common for a ship design to have several striking silhouettes from some angles, then have a couple bad angles where it doesn't look good at all.
Happens quite a bit with starships in Star Trek- usually the most popular ones (like the Enterprise refit from the films) tend to be the ones with the fewest bad angles (if they have any to begin with).
Though, of course, some of that can sometimes be a matter of opinion (for instance, some people love Voyager, but I find it feeling too round-edged, but there are a couple angles of the shop that can still make it look nice to my eye) and that's fine too.
In this case, I suspect the detachable shuttle isn't as strong when seen in direct profile on its own (unlike its earlier appearance), but looks much better from behind on its own or from the side while attached to the hyperdrive section.
Mae said that all that walking got her to come to new conclusions. She only found out that Osha was alive just before they left that planet and went to "unalive" Kalnacca. She really hadn't had time to process it, and during her walk to Kalnacca's place, she mulled everything over in her mind and came to her decision. It only seems odd to us because they didn't show the entire several hour trek, but all of her anger and quest for vengeance included the death of Osha, and now that she's alive...yeah some of that anger went away and instead...perhaps joy that her twin is still alive has overwhelmed her.
It's also interesting because Qimir (whether or not he is the bad guy or just working for him) has been really pushing for her to keep moving and was against her stopping to take a moment. He likely sensed her doubt, or anticipated the effect Osha being alive would have on Mae, and didn't want to give her any time to herself to contemplate her actions/motivations.
I also think we will have a different perspective of young Mae after another flashback. For one, I don't think she was trying to hurt or kill Osha; and never meant to start a fire. Mae knows something when she confronts Osha (before the fire) because she says "We're stuck here now." I think Mae threatens to kill Osha as a scare tactic to stay in that room. It's possible Mae was instructed (by Mother Koril) to not let Osha leave because they were going to stop the Jedi.
Seems like simple people have no problems accepting this ..
Normal people realize she still killed two jedi ... any future she could have with her sister is gone now ... she is accountable for her actions .... nothing makes it ok even a sith lying ....
She is still a monster killing innocent people.. but they will expect us to forgive her 😅😂😅
@@Bidenmytime Well, she killed one Jedi (and we don't know if that Jedi is innocent). Do you have the same problem with "there is still good in him" Vader after he looked little kids in the eyes and sliced them in half? Can Mae be forgiven as long as she immediately dies?
@@Bidenmytime She killed one Jedi. The other committed suicide. She may have some legal repercussions from that, but they'd be less than murder.
As for that one murder she is responsible for, she states in the episode that after she surrenders she intends to trade information about her master to the Jedi in exchange for leniency.
(and depending on what actually happened to the witches that make these 4 Jedi so remorseful, it may further help her case-though not absolve her of all consequences, of course).
"That teeth got helmet." 😄
Best Characters From The Acolyte
1. Smilo Ren/Qimir
2. Sol
3. Aniseya
4. Mae (older)
5. Osha
6. Yord
Charlie from Emergency Awesome is correct. Yord is comparable to Syril in Andor. Uptight and always plays by the book. I don’t care for Osha and Jecki’s lesbian romance. So to differentiate Mae from Osha, Amandla wears similar wigs but Osha’s hair is shorter. Mae’s hair is shorter at the front but longer in the back. Or they can use one wig and attach extensions on the back for Mae’s hair.
Almost every male SW fan wants a character who looks like a badass and wants him to use a lightsaber like a badass which includes a man child like Star Wars Theory who wants Revenge of the Sith be redone 100 more times. Male SW fans were jizzing who Marrok would turn out to be. That’s all male SW fans wants. They want lightsaber duels and the character looks cool doing it. Preferably a white guy like Hayden and they want him to twirl a lightsaber like *Carly* *King* and Ray Park. Carly King is loving The Acolyte. Let’s not hate her for enjoying it.
*Sister* *Sage:* Ryan is the first natural-born superhero. And his brand needs to reflect that. He’s not one of Vought’s lab rat freaks. He was chosen - by fate, God, whatever- to be the one who saves the world.
*Homelander:* Yes. But let’s not forget why he is special. Shall we? He’s my son. Chosen by God, sure, but, uh… made by me.
*Sister* *Sage:* The chosen one narrative only works if he stands alone. Harry Potter. Neo. Luke Skywalker. Hollywood’s trained people to fall in love with *white* *boy* *lone* *saviors.* So, America will want to fall in love with Ryan.
Technically, Luke isn’t the Chosen One but he was the reason why Anakin killed Palpatine (or supposedly if you ignore Episode IX). All this bring balance to the Force is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. That explanation of the Force needing light and dark is so vague and esoteric. To me, Luke was the hero of the Original Trilogy because he could’ve killed his dad but he chose not to. Or you can argue Vader pulled back but *love* from a father and son was the real hero of the OG Trilogy.
Whining about lore breaking….
They showed fire in space!
Mae & Osha undermines Anakin’s birth!
Ki-Adi-Mundi broke TPM’s canon!
Google search Star Wars plot holes from Yoda training Obi-Wan and not Qui-Gon to Leia seeing her dead mother to having complete amnesia for C-3PO and R2-D2. Why did Obi-Wan take 3 years to send Luke to Yoda? How come the Millennium Falcon wasn’t properly scanned? Vader can’t sense that’s his daughter he’s torturing and had captured twice? Why did Yoda give up so easily in ROTS when he already had the higher ground on Sidious? Why did it take a year to rescue Han from Jabba’s palace?
It’s George Lucas making up stuff along the way. George has broke his own canon by adding characters that weren’t there. Ahsoka was the biggest unnecessary addition and Dave Filoni sure loves his baby girl, his waifu. Anakin wasn’t ranked Master yet and he still had his own padawan. She’s basically Rey before Rey. The closest to having live action Mara Jade. Ahsoka was hated early on. Then The Clone Wars got better and now she’s even more beloved than Leia and Padmé.
Star Wars is not high art. There’s going to be bozo writing like how Jar Jar keeps getting promoted for higher government jobs. Or how Obi-Wan changes his first name to Ben but keeps his last name and hides Vader’s son in Anakin’s home planet with Ani’s own stepbrother and wife while Luke still uses the same last name. So much inconsistencies in the writing dating back to A New Hope.
Star Wars is not coming from Coppola, Scorsese, or Nolan. It’s not Oppenheimer. Treat it like the next Jurassic movie. High expectations is why Star Wars gets judged so harshly compared to something like Star Trek when all Star Wars is involves space monks/samurais with telekinesis and laser swords.
Okay, but just as you JUST criticized Lucas and Filioni and their writing.... We can criticize this show runner and her writers without you falling back into "it's not Oppenheimer" defense, right? Right?
We can say that's it dumb to tease a Wookie Jedi and then kill him off screen without expecting it to be Quentin Tarantino, right? We can expect basic setup and payoff? Right?
“I am Yord” in the South Park voice is the single greatest meme to come from this show calling it now.
Ya ya ya
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I very much agree with the point that Mae's choice came out of left field and felt a bit out of place. But I also wanted to commend Jay's point on trying to find something to enjoy in the show even if it's not fully jiving. What I really appreciate about these reactions as a whole is the honesty of opinions but also the choice to be positive. This show has really brought out a truly awful side of Star Wars fans, with so many putting each other down over different opinions and using it as a means of bullying over the internet and I really appreciate Jay and Adams positivity and their commitment to the humorous bits as well as fostering such a wonderful group of peaches that I am thankful to be a part of.
I think that bit where Mae is just kinda sitting there looking pensive was supposed to be the show telling us she might change her mind. I think they should've added just a smidge more of the actual 'conflict' so that it felt a bit more natural to see her come to the conclusion.
When Osha, had a vision of Mae on the planet she crash landed on. One things that Mae tell Osha is that she going to kill them all. But it's not Mae that talking. Her eyes rolls black as if possessed. I'm wondering if it's Mae under that mask?
Mae said that all that walking got her to come to new conclusions. She only found out that Osha was alive just before they left that planet and went to "unalive" Kalnacca. She really hadn't had time to process it, and during her walk to Kalnacca's place, she mulled everything over in her mind and came to her decision. It only seems odd to us because they didn't show the entire several hour trek, but all of her anger and quest for vengeance included the death of Osha, and now that she's alive...yeah some of that anger went away and instead...perhaps joy that her twin is still alive has overwhelmed her.
Right on. Criticism is fine. Attacking people over opinions is not.
Made sense to me because I don’t think she was ever that devoted to the Sith to begin with. She’s only attacking Jedi she has a personal vendetta against, she disobeys her master’s orders by using weapons, and when Qimir starts reciting the Sith Code she cuts him off.
The thing is she was violent with Osha but she was also pathologically dependent on her, and with her coven gone Osha is the only family she has left. Part of the Dark Side is being possessive of those you care about. If this is how she can possess Osha, she’s gonna do it.
I think Sol is the most emotionally mature Jedi that we’ve seen. I like him a lot.
Mae being surprised that her sister was a Jedi is because, if you remember in ep 2, she thought she was DEAD.
The emphasis wasn't put on her being alive though. If she's alive her having undergone jedi training should be the least surprising outcome in the world. They would have been there to take her in in the aftermath of her entire coven (for lack of a better term) dying, and she had expressed an interest in wanting to be a jedi in the flashback. Next episode is supposed to be Mae's flashback, and I expect we are going to see similar events to episode 3 but with marked differences (like her not proclaiming that she'll kill Osha, and that she didn't actually start the potentially deadly fire). I still wish episode 3 had done a much better job of establishing it was from Osha's POV if that does happen though.
@@earlmason1954 Not if Mae thought the events would have guaranteed to turn her against the Jedi.
I'm wondering if Mae has a spit personality. We saw in Osha vision of Mae as a young girl her rolling up and turning black. I'm wondering if Mae is the under that black mask?
I also think that she was watching Qimir to see his reaction to what she said, much like he did shortly thereafter when he mentioned Sol.
@@Madame702I was thinking there was a "Fight Club" scenario with the twins. I also keep thinking Trinity will be the Sith. But I never thought of what you said, you could be absolutely right.
It's clear that Episode 3 is Osha's point if view. That episode shows Mae as this psychopath when we know from episode one she isn't. She could have killed the father in the canteen but choose not to when she saw the child. Mae looks happy when she first saw Osha too.
Sure it is, thats why we see Sol in the forest if it's from OSHA pov. Someone, she couldn't see. O wait it wasn't in pov mode yet ? Sure
@@MrCurlykid1 stop reaching.
Not only do we see him, we hear what he says. So either OsHA did too or the POV is BS
@@MrCurlykid1we don’t see the episode through Osha’s eyes; it’s more her memory of how things went down
@@seangargan again, how does she have memory of what someone said she couldn't see or hear.
I really enjoy this show, but all it has done is remind he how toxic a lot of these subhuman trash "fans" are.
Preach
What about the fans with actual decent criticisms?
@@crimsonjediYou absolutely are not one, judging by the bilge you’ve been leaving on every SW reaction/theory channel for the last couple weeks.
I feel like some of the weakness in this show's story is the editing of scene order and how that impacts the pacing. And some of those decisions feel very much in post-production rather than written that way initially.
I feel like there's still the perspective of Mae's childhood that helps inform her later turn away from the Master that would have been a better set up for this time.
I would not doubt some people coming up with a different scene order for this season that makes it all jive a little better.
I think it was Nerdy Nightly that brought up, if this were binge watched rather than weekly, it might be better.
But I agree that the pacing (and some of the writing) is a bit wonky. It's not necessarily bad, but it makes it fall well short of great. And unless it really really sticks the landing, I'm not sure it'd be worth a re-watch to find out.
Every episode someone says something that contradicts with something either they said or someone else said previously. Or they explain things when the person they explain too should already know it. Making it obvious they are doing this to inform the audience.I would call it bad and rushed writing.
I think Mae’s turn in this makes more sense if one examines it through a couple lenses:
1. The scene of her setting the fire and saying “I’ll kill you” was not actually her. She was possessed, or it was an implanted force vision for Osha at someone else’s doing, something like that. The show, as y’all acknowledged, is holding back information and presenting part of the tale so far as “unreliable narrator” stuff in some fashion.
2. The show gave us a glimpse of Osha doing almost the same thing with the little bird thing - holding it in place with the force. The difference was in the music sting and in how Osha reacted to the moment in the show.
3. Mae’s adult motivation has always been about avenging her sister. Once she found out her sister was still alive at the end of ep 2 (the last time we saw her in the present before this episode) everything changed for her. The struggle (and I understand this being a bit of a beef, personally) narratively surrounding us, as the audience, not getting more insight into her mounting doubt from then til the turn in this episode is simply an exposition issue: she’s *only* been with Qimir, who she knows is not someone she can confide in with her doubts and concerns.
All told, I get the gripe about it feeling a bit quick, it settled a bit odd on my shoulders the first time I watched it too, and that’s what a reaction is: y’all’s first watch. Having re-watched the episode multiple times now (3 times watching the full ep in D+ and then all the reactions) it has settled in a little better for me as a point I get, personally. I do understand why it’s rubbing some folks a little weirdly on first watch, though.
What is up with your outros lately? No more Guacamoles Extra for the Peaches? Your commentary is also way more edited than usual.
Lashy's brain malfunctioned @ 3:10 and now I have spilled my coffee while laughing at him.
This episode really solidified my theory that we're getting a knockoff of Rashomon. There's too much off with Mae and Osha for it to just be a writing error - it's too deliberate. Doesn't mean it'll be smart (need the rest of the series to make that call), but I think there's a Thing going on we're not privy to yet.
The problem is that the writers were unwilling to make the detective the main character so that is an actual mystery story/Rashomon and instead they are trying to make the two lead suspects the main characters, which causes them to act irrationally in order to keep up the guise of mystery since if we saw things from their perspective we would understand things immediately...
"Osha clearly remembers her sister wanting to kill her." Well... She just misremembered that. (Why would the character we are supposed to sympathize with the most have such a self-serving memory? Who knows. The writers need us to not understand what happened That Day.)
"Mae clearly wants to kill the Jedi who murdered her family." Well... Mae doesn't want that anymore because Osha is alive. (Why would her quest for vengeance for her entire family be invalidated by finding out one member of the family is still alive, and why would literally any other criticism she had against the Jedi and the Republic stop being true if they weren't guilty of killing specifically Osha? Who knows. The writers wanted a plot twist to happen.)
i feel like Mae isnt the villain. she was quick to give up her vendetta against the Jedi, but Osha cant forgive Mae. i wonder if Osha started the fire when hallucinating an evil version of her sister, either someone maniuplating her or something else. but in the scene where they fell, Mae seemed different then "ill kill you" Mae. i wonder if the one who fell was real Mae and she thought Osha started the fire. either way love the reaction guys thank you!~
Mae's master probably told her that the Jedi killed Osha
She still murdered two people. Easily attainable records could have found her if she ever considered to look .
@@Bidenmytime She only killed one. The other killed himself out of guilt for something he did.
@@Bidenmytimeanakin killed a ridiculous amount of people even after sidious flat out told him he didn't actually know how to stop padme from dying. Like the tenet of the dark side is that grief makes you do terrible things beyond reason if you just succumb enough and you get the wrong nudges
I don't think Mae had a change of heart, I think she feels she could kill the 2 remaining Jedi from within instead of hunting them down. But she already killed 2, so the Jedi wouldn't try to reform her, would they? This doesn't makes sense.
But she literally is minutes away from Jedi #3 when she decides to walk away....
Also, Jay- I think this is the same ship you liked in Episode 1 (the one that detached from the bigger ship). You’re just seeing it from a different angle.
In case it is not on the nail enough for some people.....
Basil is a giant mouse-like creature, that is great at detecting things.....
Basil's race, Tynnan, was created in the 1979 novel, Han Solo's Revenge...and was made modern Canon in 2016 in the book, Catalyst: A Rogue One Novel.
@@aliwantizuif this show is doing anything, they’re really looking through the past and present encyclopedias.
@@jinxie712Except when it comes to things like when people were born...
@@CCFONESOL Legends is being used as a resource for fleshing out canon. Canon is not beholden to what Legends has established.
@VoyagerCSL pretty much established in the prequels. Plus quit excusing incompetence. They didn't even realize what they did until the backlash hit. Then they tried to "fix" it, cover it up, and lie about it.
It'd odd that people are seeing Mae's change of heart as not adding up - her whole deal was that she wants to be with her sister. In the past, the Jedi were trying to take her away and then Mae thought she was dead. Now that she knows Osha's alive, her motivation remains the same: be with my sister. I think the show is doing a good job at using our preconceived notions against us, too, because in that flashback, Osha was 'choking out a butterfly' too - it was only Mae who got chastised for it. I think the show is doing a lot of telling you one thing (through the characters stating how they feel and musical cues) yet showing another which is making it really engaging, not straightforward storytelling.
Really well said!
The problem is, nobody cares. What's the point of all this if it only confuses the majority of fans who want to enjoy STAR WARS? None of the characters in this show have enough charisma to counterbalance the poor writing. It feels like the work of a teenager trying to prove their skill by adding unnecessary complexity. Watching it just feels awkward.
@@MonPetitPython to be fair, "nobody cares" is poor writing directed at two commenters who do care. I understand it's not for everyone. Not everything is. I love hot sauce - but I don't love hot fermented sauces. Does that mean they shouldn't be made? You may like every other star wars more than Acolyte - and that's ok! Enjoy all that :) But myself and others will still enjoy this. So...like what you like, dislike what you like, but you can pause before saying "nobody" when you mean "I".
@@calebd.5005 To be fair, "nobody cares" is far too good a response to use against statements like "well said" and "I love hot sauce, but I don't love hot fermented sauces." Speaking of poor writing...
@@MonPetitPython It hasn't been difficult for me to follow - pushing past your comfort zone and engaging in more complex media is ok. It's ok if you don't understand everything initially - maybe it'll be clear to you by the end (the way most mysteries work), maybe it'll take a rewatch or hearing other's thoughts about the story before it clicks with you, maybe it never will. But that doesn't mean that just because it's confusing to YOU right now that 'nobody cares' or is 'poor writing'. Everyone has different perceptions/what they like in media - your tastes aren't universal, nor should they be. This obsession with 'what I view as good media is objectively correct and anything that falls outside my narrow perspective is objectively wrong' needs to stop.
a solid 8
We need to talk about The Acolyte. There is a lot to unpack from Episode 4 as I replayed certain scenes over and over and let’s make predictions for Episode 5. Qimir or not Qimir, that is the question…
Qimir: How do you kill a Jedi without a weapon? It has to be some sort of test, right? You engage unarmed, but you can use their saber if you disarm them? Or is that cheating? I’m just curious how you’re gonna do it this time. You’ve failed so much.
Mae: I didn’t fail. I killed Indara and I killed Torbin.
Qimir: But you killed them “your way.” You have to kill the Wookiee without a weapon. Your Master wants you to..
Mae: What kind of deal did you make with him?
Qimir: I didn’t. Uh, *we* didn’t exactly. I… I just owe him. You know how he is, he collects people.
Mae: I’ve never seen his face. Have you?
Qimir: You know I haven’t. Oh, look, there it is. The perimeter.
I thought when Qimir said *”we* didn’t exactly” after he said *“I* didn’t” to be strange. Is he including Mae as part of the deal? Why say we when Mae was asking him directly? And then listen carefully to how he said “he collects people.” He said *people* in a serious tone the same way he told Mae that “he’d kill you.”
All the tea leaves points to Qimir as Smilo Ren. He changes the topic quickly after Mae asked him if he’s seen the Master’s face. And then his obvious rush to get to Kelnacca (or Kelly as some Redditors call him). Why is Qimir in such a hurry? Because he knows the Jedis are coming? He needs Mae to perform his final task?
Is Qimir the acolyte, the apprentice, or the master? Because that Force push was pretty strong. He seems stronger than being only an acolyte or an apprentice. And he floated down like he’s Batman ‘89. Remember the last time we saw Qimir, he was hanging upside-down from a tree. He had the higher ground the last time we see him.
But what if Qimir is NOT Smilo Ren even though a majority of us already believe it is him? He did disarm Mae rather easily in Ep 2 and already said the first sentence of the Sith code. But why reveal himself? There is a scene right before Qimir got caught in Mae’s trap that it looked like he really was going to fetch her for more water.
Some people are saying he knew it was a trap but I don’t know? It looked genuine right before he got caught upside-down. Mae screamed HELP! and then you see Qimir running towards her with concern in his face. And how he told Mae that he cares. Remember last year when everyone tried to predict who Marrok was in Ahsoka only to find out he’s smoke underneath it?
Say we take his word and Qimir has never seen the Master’s face. Then he’s only assuming the Master is a he. What if it’s a she? I’m also reading from some Redditors believing it’s Vernestra. Why does she keep hiding these missions from the Jedi Council? And some think she sent Sol and that crew on a secret mission so they can kill all the loose ends.
Of course if it’s Vernestra, it may piss off some SW fans who already know her from the recent High Republic comics from 3 years ago which Lesyle is using it as some of her source material + EU. Not to sound mean but Vernestra has a face I want to slap. Rebecca Henderson is Lesyle Headland’s real life wife, but Vernestra has a face I want to slap. Maybe because she’s green and bald. Doesn’t have a trustworthy face.
I saw one Redditor thinks it’s Indara and that she didn’t really die after that opening scene. That she’s the Master. BTW, Manny Jacinto is listed at 5’11 while both Carrie-Anne Moss and Rebecca Henderson are both listed at 5’9. If Trinity is the Sith Lord all along after we all thought she died in the first episode would be quite hilarious. 😂 She could survive that small knife wound if Reva and Sabine can survive lightsaber cuts through their bodies.
Let’s say Qimir is Smilo Ren and is the acolyte. He’s using Mae to perform his last test of killing a Jedi without a weapon. That’s why he was in such a rush for Mae to get to Kelnacca. But he killed Kelnacca with a lightsaber. He’s not passing his final test. Mae didn’t technically kill Torbin. He chose death. The poison could be considered a weapon or not but he chose to die. Mae didn’t kill him. I don’t understand Qimir revealing himself against 8 Jedis when he could’ve just left the scene if he knew Mae had a change of heart and was going to rat on him.
I do agree with Star Wars Meg that The Acolyte should’ve dropped all episodes entirely ala Stranger Things. I grew up watching LOST (2004-2010) years before The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones, so I can understand the frustrations waiting a week to find out what happens next. A new generation may not have the patience for a mystery show dropping one episode per week.
It’s actually quite unfair to judge The Acolyte because we are essentially looking at a puzzle 🧩 with missing pieces to the big picture. It would be like judging only the first half of Knives Out, Glass Onion, Death on the Nile, Clue, or any Scooby-Doo episode before we get to the final reveal. The Acolyte is basically a *whodunit* series. I’m not saying it’s great but it is quite unfair to judge it knowing it’s hiding a lot of things from the viewers.
Alex from The Angry Joe Show said the one who killed Kelnacca was Bazil. I know he said it in jest but it was quite peculiar to see Bazil right before Mae found Kelnacca dead. He was not seen for most of that episode. Then we finally see him, Mae finds out Kelnacca is dead. We definitely got robbed not seeing Kelnacca not getting into a fight. What a jip! We get excited seeing a Wookiee Jedi after Ep 2 and we still didn’t get to see him fight for his life using a lightsaber. 🤦🏻 So wrong.
The show does look quite cheap. Now where they filmed Khofar was somewhere in Madeira, Portugal. It was quite beautiful but then there are certain scenes to this show that looks bland and cheap. I don’t feel the immersion from it. Coruscant looks bland to me. It looks like a ghost town and it’s only 100 years before TPM. Where’s all the flying ships and tall skyscrapers surrounding the Jedi Temple? A hundred years difference is not going to make Coruscant look that bland and dead.
The Acolyte costs $180M when it looks worse than Ahsoka at $105M. Heck, worse than Godzilla Minus One at only $15M. House of the Dragon revealed it’s first episode from Season 2 and that episode at around $20M looks 10x better than The Acolyte. Ahsoka used tons of Volume but I consider it the 2nd best looking among the SW Disney+ series behind Andor ($250M). Some shots in The Acolyte looks like something out of a Star Trek TV series.
I don’t agree with Meg’s opinion from yesterday that the Star Wars Prequels looks far better than the Disney+ series. Only Revenge of the Sith still looks decent today but The Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones have showed their age after 22-25 years. Check TPM’s scene between the Gungans vs. Droid Army. Very little green texture. Then AOTC’s Battle of Geonosis looks even more awful to me now than it did in 2002.
The SW Disney+ looks better to me because it is mixing real location, Volume, and green/blue screens while the Prequels relied on most of the latter although I did visit The Plaza de España in Seville, Spain. It’s the scene when Anakin is holding Padmé’s luggages in AOTC. That was one of the biggest complaints of the Prequels. Most of the backgrounds didn’t feel real. It was like the actors were put in an animated movie or some video game from the PlayStation 3 era.
Episode 5 Predictions?
The obvious one is 5 of those 8 Jedis not named Sol, Yord, and Jecki will be redshirted and should be killed right away from Smilo Ren. But what happens then? Call me Chato predicts Sol will be captured and it becomes a rescue mission for Mae and Osha. Or what if Osha is captured and it’s a rescue mission for Sol, Mae, Yord, and Jecki? Or if it’s called Night, Sol (meaning Sun ☀️) dies in it?
Smilo didn’t kill Osha but Smilo seemed to toss her away pretty easily with the Force. I think Smilo is going to use her to turn. Maybe that’s why the reveal. Since Episode 4 left us with a major cliffhanger, I think Episode 5’s viewership is going to spike up. As bad as The Acolyte has been, people are still curious who is Smilo Ren and who really killed the lesbian witch coven that we didn’t see in the previous flashback episode since we only saw it from Osha’s perspective. What are the Jedi hiding? Why did Torbin feel so guilty?
My money is on Vernestra but I think it’s 90% Qimir. But I want to bet on a longshot. Everyone was dead wrong on Marrok last year. Vernestra is still a fairly new character from the comics/novels. If it’s her, I don’t think fans would get too mad. Now the person who killed the witch coven may not be Smilo Ren. That could be a different character. Manny Jacinto is 38-years-old. But his character might be younger in this series and might be too young to commit killing the witch coven.
Smilo Ren?
90% Qimir
2% Vernestra
2% Koril
2% Aniseya
2% Indara
1% Sol’s evil twin
1% Bazil
Here’s Vernestra’s convo with Sol. A way of trying to throw us off?
Vernestra: I fear Mae is only a small part of her Master’s larger plan. A plan that is difficult to see. Some sort of shift. Something to tip the scales.
Vernestra might be the Master and Qimir is Smilo Ren as either the Acolyte or her Apprentice. Episode 5 titled, Night, might be the banger episode we’ve been waiting for! Or it could still stink it up as usual….
What if the last four episodes kicks some serious ass? That’s quite a shift from hating it to loving it. From worst to best in a hurry. It’s like the Prequels, GameCube, and Kobe Bryant during their prime. Hated back in the day but beloved now from a generation who grew up on them.
Can Smilo Ren be Torbin? For some reason, I find his death is quite suspicious too. He seems to be the most affected by that tragedy, his force meditation thing is crazy powerful, and could've arranged his 'death' with Qimir.
Admittedly, faking out a death at a Jedi Temple is probably not easy as I think they have a good mortuary and body disposal system.
I think something happened when the Jedi tested Mae. I don’t know what it is yet, but I think that’s a reveal they’re saving.
I don't think Mae's flip is a surprise at all
-When Mae fought Sol he said "Even now your thoughts go to your sister". I believe her entire motivation for teaming up with a scary master that is threatening to kill her if she doesn't complete a task she sees as impossible, and a slimy smuggler she doesn't know, trust, or even seem to like being around, is to get revenge for Osha. In her mind the Jedi came to steal her twin away, the person she wants to be with as one for the rest of their life. I fully expect to see the Jedi involved in the destruction of the coven in another flashback and she blames them for losing Osha. When Sol notices her thinking about her sister during the fight she screams "MY SISTER IS DEAD!!" Knowing Osha is actually alive and well should absolutely change everything for her.
Her actually seeing Osha and having some time to process that, I'm not surprised at all to see her motivation change and she decides to peace out. She didn't seem to really like the situation she was in anyway.
It's shockingly decent given the reception lol
What did they spend 180 million on? Clearly it was not sets. Or writing. Or special effects.
Looks like CW
Cocaines a helluva drug
Mae thought Osha was dead. Just like Osha thought Mae was dead.
So, of course seeing her alive as ANYTHING shocked her.
Yord gets a lot if crap, but he's really grown on me. He's kind of rules nerd, but his heart seems in the right place at the end of the day.
I interpreted him as someone who JUST became a jedi knight and is both nervous about screwing it up and excited to prove he's worth it, so he's over the top on the rules as a result. I think we'll see him calm down and be more himself as time goes on
He's a fantastic character to bounce moments off of, though. The two best laughs in this whole series so far would not have worked if Yord wasn't who he was for the other characters to respond to.
I like him, but he's pretty much a punching bag for all the woman and Sol in the show. He has the most sensible questions but everyone ignores him.
I get very confused at people who think SW is some big intellectual thought-provoking property. It has always been for entertainment and aimed at kids no? That’s why you have pretty coloured “swords”, fun creatures, kooky droids, ewoks, jar-jar, an obviously bad guy dressed all in black with a deep scary voice… They have always been ‘movies’ not ‘films’. This is a fine series that lots of people worked hard on that some people just want to hate because it is not exactly reminiscent of something they have romanticised from their childhood.
Was that a South Park reference with “I am Yord, Yord Yord Yord”? 🤣
I think what bothered me about this episode, and I could be wrong as more episodes come out, is instead of getting a cool villain origin story, we're once again getting a redemption story. It seems like emery time Star Wars introduces a dark character (Mando, Third? Sister, most of the Tales of the Empire characters, and now Mae) they have to almost immediately start turning them good. It's getting old and boring.
I think the main source of confusion is that people correctly assumed we didn't get the whole picture last episode. But people incorrectly assumed which parts of it were false. Personally, I think the vast majority is false. I think the events we saw aren't what actually happened from Osha's perspective, but instead what she remembers happened combined with her current day beliefs and opinions. She was told her sister started the fire that killed her mother. The Jedi saved her life. The Jedi accepted her. So in her memory, Mae is evil, the coven is evil, her mother is both loving, but also completely willing to gaslight and emotionally manipulate her daughter (which is probably because she both misses her mom, but also knows her mother wouldn't approve of her having been a Jedi), and why the Jedi were seen as good, and non-antagonistic.
Some scenes, like basically every scene where Osha WASN'T present, are probably reliable. Mae showing up at the Bunts tree not knowing if her sister is alive is reliable. All the discussions between the adult members of the coven sre reliable. Other than that, it's probably all tainted with Osha's current beliefs, and therefore is unreliable. Which would be one hell of a way to do a flashback episode, but I'm not saying I dislike it.
Seeing all the negative reactions and toxic discourse around this show I'm genuinely confused. What are people mad about? I think it seems pretty good so far 🤷🏻♂ nothing amazing though. But why SO much hate? Has the star wars fandom just become so toxic that it'll hate anything put out regardless
"something doesn't add up" is the perfect review for this entrie show so far. It's not bad, it looks great (except for old Torbin and the Sith), but everything else is either weird or uninteresting.
The storytelling is so weird, it isn't fun, there's no sense of urgency, it feels like there are no real stakes (sure 4 Jedi, we barely know or root for, could die ... out of a thousand or something like that?!), the mystery of Osha and Mae is not really interesting because, again, the storytelling is weird. The backstory episode didn't make me go "oh shit what does this mean? Did something else happening? I learned certain things about those characters that makes them more interesting and engaging", nothing. I watched that backstory episode and was just like "hm weird" and that's it.
This how to me feels like Doctor Strange 2 felt, it's nice content from its universe, but it isn't a great show ... so far. Maybe they'll give us all the important things at the end and everything makes sense, but the storytelling would still eb bad then....we'll see.
I don't want to be too negative, I don't hate this show, but it doesn't grab me, it doesn't pull me in. It's weirdly off.
Hear me out, the Sith is Indara! I think she and her Padawan invaded the coven as Mae started the fire, and used the distraction to kill them all, Sol realized something was up, but never truly believed they did something bad. Indara needed a new apprentice since her's was overridden by guilt before she could lead him down the dark path. We know Jedi are capable of putting themselves into a near death meditative state, something I think she did after force pulling the knife from Mae and stopping it RIGHt before her heart with a force shield, Doubt me, rewatch the scene, look at Mae's face, she was shocked. Now free to move on her own Indara puts things in motion to get to the Wookie first to set Mae up further as the true killer. Think about it Kanacca(SP?) was isolated, probably had no idea she was reported dead, so he would see an old friend and invite them in as they relaxed, Indara strikes, killing him before he has time to react.
Maybe we are not supposed to see how the Wookie died yet.....
But its been confirmed the fight with the wookie was cut due to budget reasons.
@@crimsonjedieven tho its in the trailer and was already done anyway ... that just shows the low effort put into the show and the waste of resources ..
A lot of things doesn't add up..lmfao..😂
Adam i have some bad news. Star Wars has a proud history of Space Fires from all the way back to the very first movie. so....
yeah.
just sayin'
My main gripe with this show is, who is the protagonist? Who are we supposed to be rooting for? Mae? She was the character we were introduced to first, but she’s a villain, so why would we root for a murderer. Osha? She’s passive and has no agency as a character. Sol? Is he good? It’s not clear. It just feels like someone telling us a story, instead of letting us follow a character through their story.
I don't really feel anything for the main character. I think that's why this show is losing me, never really had me i guess. They never really made me care about her. But I agree with you. Just seems like poor fanfiction
And then you have people who are completely willing to buy in to the idea that OSHA is really the bad twin and that episode 3 is completely from her biased perspective. By that logic, who the hell am I supposed to be rooting for?
They are trying SO HARD to have an old fashioned mystery where everyone could have Dunnit, which is completely underwhelming because the detective (Sol) isn't the main character. We can't learn more about the twins WITH Sol because the story is from the twins' perspectives, while also playing with the idea that the twins' perspectives can't be trusted. So the scenes themselves can't be trusted, the dialogue can't be trusted....
Adam: They don't KNOW that we know they know we know 😂
Thank y’all for still being Star Wars fans despite all the toxicity in the community, & thank y’all for always brightening up our day with your videos!
Saying there’s toxicity in the community is a major part of toxicity. Let people have opinions without negative backlash I say. There’s so much hooey to contend with it’s impossible to talk about this series with out negativity. 😊
@@seanperrydj some of the critisms seem unfair and people just creating massive issues where there aren't any. Also just to clarify not all of them but some.
@@seanperrydj No negative backlash from me, just trying to point out that Adam & Jay (in my opinion) exemplify what being Star Wars fans are 😊 All in all, I’d say my initial comment was anything but toxic, but to each their own. Have a great evening!
It’s not gelling because as a writer the sisters choices actually don’t make sense. They don’t and people going around saying that it’s logical is really irking me.
Come on, Mae.
You can't just leave your Master hanging like that.....
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I am so dissappointed ! I hope you do a double episode Season Finale for Doctor Who !
Tardis invitation revoked !
"You will remember today as The Day You ALMOST Caught Qmir,Lord of the Sii.." (gets snared in a simple rope trap)
and that WEIRD rap diss - look up Step N Fetchers by Kool Keith- he was onto it many years ago
I believe Mae has turned and Osha will be turning to the other side. Maybe the Master is her mother and the Jedi kill her and she also finds out the truth about the death of the coven. Osha will turn to the dark side.
Just reacted to episode 5 bro im shook! cant wait to seee your reaction!
That Roots joke got me. lol
We are not getting a complete true past. We’re looking through Osha eyes. Bet we’ll get a real origin and Mae was the victim the whole time.
It's kinda annoying cause I want to root for someone but I can't.
I really hope they ARE holding out some massive twists/important information because if not, this is the WORST dumpster fire of a series that I've ever seen, NOT even just limiting it to Star Wars. Ever seen, EVER.
Clearly, SOMETHING happened in episode 3 that they are yet to reveal about how the Witches etc died, but still they're also going to have to explain Mae sudden, undying loyalty to her sister. And until we get the big reveals, to be honest, rather than making me more interested in the show, it's actually just annoying me how they're withholding so much info and just expecting us to hang around until they show us......
I feel the same. I can't really connect with the main character cause I don't know what's going on.
Guys, they spent all of episode 3 showing how attached Mae is to her sister…minus the one scene where “Mae” (obviously not really Mae) set the fire.
Do not rule out Mae under the mask. In Osha vision on the planet where she crashed landed Mae's eyes rolled black and say she will kill them all.
Mae's buddy is definitely the Master
The episode could literally have been just the last 2 minutes and we would not have missed anything of the story/plot. I'm always fascinated how there are so many comments trying to figure out what is going on and everybody's motivations etc. Would be amusing if it all turns out to be an unhinged mess that doesn't add up whatsoever. I'm kinda leaning in that direction, actually.
"...that's why there are no Empire Osha guideline rules because she got murdered by a giant rollie-poly bug..." LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah something is not adding up. How this absolute trash ever got made 😆
We have yet to see the forest fire that we saw in the trailers and Episode. 1.
Don't forget Mae didn't know her sister was alive. She has been thinking about it and she finally decided that all the things she believed all her life was based on a lie. I would change who I was in that final moment of realization too.
Even after killing two Jedis and thinking she won't get punished for it
But whether or not those 4 Jedi are the cause of her family's death isn't predicated on if Osha is alive. Her being surprised her sister is alive doesn't explain why she suddenly stopped wanting revenge.
Even then, it's a decision that's out of no where. To say it simply, literally anything COULD happen in fiction: Professor X COULD systematically use Cerebro to scan the world for mutant criminals with warrants and have his X-Men track them down. It would be the most efficient use of the technology. But that's not how stories work. An inciting incident needs to happen to prompt Professor X to use Cerebro. Stories are cause and effect.
Saying that Mae simply knowing her sister is alive now should be enough cause for her to risk everything to find her even though nothing happened within the story to prompt that risk being justified (she thought about it, silently, and just decided to do it) is like saying Charles Xavier should just think about it and use Cerebro better.
I feel like some people are being more charitable than they should ... because they expect it to get better ... I think they will still be dissapointed in the end.
Put simply. It’s bad writing. Simple as.
Just when the show can't get any worse, a new episode comes out.
Episode 4 was lame! I've been defending the series against all the rabid fan-boys. But this was absolute weaksauce. At a paltry 31 minutes, everything that happened in this episode could have been the last 7 minutes of Ep3.
Defending this show makes you a shill
Normally, the ending when the Sith Lord appeared gave me goosebumps like when I first saw the Alien movie. As for Kiadi-mundi, we know that SW Legends are not Canon.
We've already seen this change with Yaddle in Tales of the Jedi.
As for Kimiro, I think the same, I noticed that he might not want Mae, just as a textbook, but maybe something more.
And as for Mae, since she found out that Oshie is alive and they saw her, her turn would make sense, it reminds me of Vader and Luke in episode 6.
Right? Darth Vader is pure evil kills kids genocides planets and then becomes a good guy in the end for his son but her changing her mind after finding her dead sister alive is bad writing. You can't make this shit up
Don't you start that space fire again Adam
Roots, rock and wiener bugs, on my!
How could they do my boy Kelnacca like that?! 😭
They didn't have money in the budget to show the fight they said.
@@crimsonjedi 200 million darn…..they totally couldn’t have put a 4 minute fight in there. They had to spend on a random pop song for the witches to sing part of. Priorities I guess…….my question still stands
@@Hudfilmsproductions I feel ya. I'm guessing we will see him fight maybe in a flashback but that's not the same when I know he's dead. The massacred the boy!
THE ROOTS.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Your so right something not add up, I've got two questions for you where Darth Plagueis he must be around and why hasn't Yoda shown up? he must know something is going on.
this guy looked very powerful, both with the landing entrance, and the force push that pushed all the jedi. could be Plagueis, been wanting his backstory for forever
One of the best villain entrances in all of Star Wars
Eh not really
I’d say it was pretty cool, but nothing beats Rogue One Vader
Looking forward to seeing Smylo Ren
I am starting to think Mae’s change in attitude may have something to do with the planet. Osha told Sol that she was starting to sense things again, maybe it is having an effect on her also.
Good point!
Loving this series so far. Thanks for another enjoyable reaction, guys!
Dave & Buster coupons. Nice one!
This show is a murder mystery. These type of stories never go in a straight line. There are always twists and turns, some surprising and some not so surprising. We are obviously going to have to wait until the end.
Whose murder is a mystery?
Which murder was a mystery? We watched each one happen...
And as for the twists and turns.... They are only happening because the characters are switching motivations at the drop of a hat, not because of any actual changes in the plot.... Mae wants to kill four Jedi for killing her family, but then she suddenly doesn't want to do that because one member of her family may still be alive, so then she betrays her master to go to the Jedi that she should still think killed her family, and then in the next episode she doesn't want to turn herself in again...
Nothing happened. The writers just write Mae to antagonize whoever she's with.
it's not that hard. Mae was angry at the jedi. Mask guy finds here trains her points her at jedi who she want's to kill because her sister is dead oh and threatens to kill her if she doesn't kill them and then she finds out her sister is actually alive. She just wants to be with her sister. She'd be happy to be in jail as long as her sister could visit.
I think that Mae is under the mask. We still don't know why they had the Ascension ceremony. There is one clue. The name "Aniseya" means "Resurrection". Mother Aniseya name translate "Resurrection of the Mother"
Just remember Asoka confirmed the Mortis Gods. We saw the statue of the Father and the Son in that one scene with Balen.
Let’s go!!!! I’m loving this show.
I am SO glad to see you guys finally opening up/calling out the writing issues with this show instead of just letting them quietly slide by 👍🏻
Why did you shorten the outro of the video? I miss that bit. Please go back!!
Nobody cares
@@IDONTCARE1313 you care enough to comment multiple times, you're killing your own brand
@@JebJebJebbersWow, did you ask your boyfriend for a good comeback? Yikes
I think the shift in Mae is “you don’t know what you’ve lost til it’s gone.” She thought she lost Osha. All that love she had for her came back. She didn’t want to kill Osha, but she also didn’t want to be separated from her.
Well she already killed two Jedi so there's no going back for her
They float now! lol
Thank you for catching that! 🙂
I am Yord. Ya Ya Ya
"Not in a negative way" oh its def in a negative way. lol. The problem is, the actress also is not delivering her lines. One of the many issues with the show is there not believable. I dont get lost in the show like one should. Im conciously aware im watching actors act because the actors isnt up to par in everyone. So it takes the viewer out of it and we dont develope any sort of feelings or emotions for the characters. Because we can sub conciously tell there just characters. We wanna be immersed, and it to feel real, and cry, and get mad etc. The shows lack of good writing, continuity, acting and lack of respect for G. Lucas leaves SW fans like "wtffff"....It seems to be a Sci fi soap Opera for a certain people that the Jedi have a cameo in....I dont think this was made for SW fans......
I agree. I have no connection at all with any of these characters sadly and don't really know who I should be rooting for or why.
@@crimsonjedi Thats a really good way to put it. SW is about Good vs. Evil..... LITERALLY. So that also is why it doesnt feel like and isnt star wars, we dont know who route for.
I both love and it frustrates me that you guys don’t really critique you’re watchings after you watches them. I for one, since I enjoy watching Star Wars with you guys so much, would enjoy post critical analysis.
This show and Andor makes me reflect a lot on my enjoyment of Star Wars over the years.
I adore Andor a LOT. This show is a very competent Star Wars show and I have mixed reactions to it. So I've thought a lot.
I think my core problem is that I find Jedi ... deeply, fundamentally unsympathetic and unrelatable. Their whole everything is SO batnuts. I can't imagine a worse way to create kind, compassionate warriors for peace than to grab young children and teach them constantly to deny and ignore all emotion, to villify attachment and emotion. Like what the what?
In the original trilogy, Luke's arc was only partially 'become a Jedi', and the relatively small place of Jedi in the thrust of the narrative worked.
Andor had this gritty deep element of HIGHLY relatable themes and characters. Zero Jedi.
But this show is ENTIRELY focused and deeply set in Jedi with loads of Jedi roaming around doing Jedi stuff.
I have some hope that the story will evolve in interesting ways, but the fundamental problem I have is that I don't give the least sh* about most of the characters or what they are going through. I have some sympathy for the sisters, though it's hampered by all the gonzo wtfery of the setting.
I think the only two characters I like despite how unrelatable the Jedi are is Sol and Jecki, because the actors are so charming.
So... I'm enjoying Acolyte. Somewhat.
I'm kinda certain the sith lord is Mae's over protective and MOST motivated (Darth Maul)s mom or grandma lookin character...I mean the sith lord had a horn covering helmet and like a disappointed mother looking at a teen kids mess....cleaned up after it by Killin the wookie...just sayin'. Great show Sirs!
This was better than 3rd Episode, but pacing is terribly uneven. It's like out of 30 mins there was no action or things to happen till in the 5 minutes. I don't mind slow episodes if I feel like they are building something but I didn't got feeling they are building anything, till last 5 minutes or so... but to be frankly the drama outside this show is way, way more entertaining than show itself so far... but to be honest, Obi-Wan really started in last few Episodes... I know, I am trying to give show a chance as I really cannot give any real thoughts till I see how Season fully unfolds.
I think the show would have benefited from applying a fundamental narrative principle: Chekhov's Wookie. "If you show a Wookie Jedi, you need to show him throwing down and not getting punked off-screen."
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The Jedi did not die. Episode 5 is just a dream sequence of Osha.
Ultimately Sol kills Qimir to assume the Sith identity.
More Jedi killed on The Acolyte than on the entire Star Wars movies. Fabulous indeed!
Turns out Mae totally misunderstood her master...
Offer the Jedi DINNER. Take them OUT, no weapons!
Sheesh.
here's my hypothesis: Mother Koril is the dark lord. somehow she survived when Mother Aniseya and the others didn't. i also feel that the young Mae who talked of burning it all down is not Mae. a projection? a dark imagining? because the Mae on the bridge when it collapsed felt different somehow. that of course is just me. looking forward to next tuesday
"Somethings not coming together here."
Bad writing. Don't be scared. You can say the big boy words. The writing is pathetically bad.
It's Knives Out, Star Wars style
The problem is is that the writers were unwilling to make the detective the main character so that is an actual mystery story, and instead they are trying to make the two lead suspects the main characters, which causes them to act irrationally in order to keep up the guise of mystery since if we saw things from their perspective we would understand things immediately...
"Osha clearly remembers her sister wanting to kill her." Well... She just misremembered that. (Why would the character we are supposed to sympathize with the most have such a self-serving memory? Who knows. The writers need us to not understand what happened That Day.)
"Mae clearly wants to kill the Jedi who murdered her family." Well... Mae doesn't want that anymore because Osha is alive. (Why would her quest for vengeance for her entire family be invalidated by finding out one member of the family is still alive, and why would literally any other criticism she had against the Jedi and the Republic stop being true if they weren't guilty of killing specifically Osha? Who knows. The writers wanted a plot twist to happen.)
If this show was good it would start with the Mae finding and kidnapping Osha while thw jedi are after them both for the murders ... not knowing they are different people.
Then slowly learning that Mae has a evil backstory... but this jumbled mess dosent resemble anything that looks to be coherant at the end .
You're right that maes change of heart was out of left field but it fit with the context of episode 3, how attached she is to osha, she comes off vwry obsessive qnd possessive of osha, her life revolved around osha. The jedi taking her away would cause her to be more twisted about it, if i cant have her then you cant behaviour. Alternatively we havrnt seen her perspective or the jedi perspective of what happened either but as bizarre of a choice it feels, its weirdly within character i feel, because mae is i believe to be a psychologically unbalanced person who has feveloped a codependancy, thinking osha was dead would of course drove her towards the thinf that she thought took her away, bow she knows shes alive she thinks she can be all hunky dorey with her again
I can't think of anything positive to say about this episode so I'll just say after watching a show called Scavengers Reign those bugs wrapped around the trees made me more uncomfortable than they had any right to
What could forgive Mae’s past?
Master Indara is alive and The Acolyte!
She didn’t kill Torbin or Kelnaca or Indara. Josinto is the real apprentice to The Acolyte.
That’s my theory!