Ordered my 101s and wasn't sure which shaft to choose. I got the Tour Lite S and love them. You do feel the weight of the club head more, which I like. Great irons and wedges! I've used them for two months and have NO regrets in my purchase. Thank you Tim.
Great video Tim! Seems like the slight spin difference between them was the factor on the distance. For those in USA, head to any PGA Superstore and you can try both these shafts for free in their bays.
I love videos like this, ty! Still saving up for my 101 t's, I'm 41 and don't get out often so they will be my first brand new set ever and the last one I buy :) Keep it up and ty
@@WayneOReilly I def appreciate the feedback and in most cases 100% agree. I used to be solid & w/ my lack of rounds I still hoover 75-84 so far this year so I want some workability still. I like to be creative. Ty honestly tho for looking out for us in the comments!
Excited for this one. Been holding off on buying irons until I finally pony up the money for a fitting. My swing is slower than yours, but it's a great comparison for base knowledge.
Could you please configure a set for senior golfers {70 plus age group}? Curious to see what Takomo would recommend. Maybe with graphite shafts and arthritic grips? Thanks and great videos!
Great start Tim. Yeah not much difference between the shafts. I guess though as you said," its what you feel better playing, the lighter or the heavier. I would prefer the lighter shafts. Interesting try out though.
I got the x stiff obs with the oversized lams it’s a heavy girl I can only Imagine same as the tour or close there stiff though took me a Minute I swing pretty fast I’m 31 6-2 205 lbs I almost gave up On em but I slowed down and like he said attacked the ball on way down the forgiveness and spin of theses are excellent really is no spin whatever I target subconsciously it goes there like a dart and stays
I've seen other comparisons on shaft weight and those found that swing speeds were pretty much the same between heavier and lighter. Dispersion changed but club speed didn't seems you see the same. Would be interesting to see if you find a difference on the golf course. Perhaps one will be more manageable for you.
I believe the KBS chart shows the lite to be higher launch higher spin. Seeing how it affects your swing is a good reminder to get fit because while the lite was higher launch it definitely was lower spin here.
I did a fitting with kbs cuz i had disc replacement in my neck and changed my swing a little and went from kbs tour 120 S to kbs tour lite 115 XS and play 301 combo set. In my fitting only difference besides feel of the slight weight change was what i was looking for which was slightly higher ball flight due to the flex point and point of impact. I hope people dont see this video and buy tour lite shafts hoping for same results because you wont get them. So many swing factors go into what a shaft will do for you. The shaft is easily 80% of the performance of the club.
Just got my 201's with obsidian 95s. My callaway rogues have a project x 6.0 that's 120g. Wasn't sure if i should have gone with 115g. About to play my first round, wish me luck. Have to come back with how they feel.
Hi can I ask why you wished you’d gotten the lites? Ive recently had a Taylormade fitting and he recommended the KBS Tour 110, my issue is I’m 65 years old, I’d like this to be my last iron purchase so would think the lites would be my best option long term. Thanks.
Tim You would expect that a lighter shaft would give you a bit more club head speed and therefore ball speed and carry distance. Interesting that you saw more ball speed from increased efficiency rather than club head speed. Overall though this suggests that the slightly lighter weight is better for your swing and strike.
@@AirsoftDelta18the “lite” is 110 grams in stiff. The “tour” is 120 grams in stiff. The “tour” in X flex is 130 grams. KBS also offers the “tour” in S+ and is 125 grams.
I bought the 101t with tour lite. Big mistake. Dont like them at all. I now realise i need a much heavier shaft. clubs will have to go infortunately and will put the ap2s back in the bag.
@@brierharmon5318 its just hard to feel the head when swinging. Im pretty strong and have a moderate if not faster swing. I feel its hard to get the club squarely back to the ball. I have a set of ap2 716 with AMT shafts. The PW is about 130grams as apposed to the takomo which is around 100, The titleist feel so much better. For me anyway. I now understand how imprtant club fitting is.
Are you talking swing weight or total weight when you're talking about it being heavier? I can't believe you got through a whole video without specifying.
Would really be nice if someone would return my email or my chat on the website. I need to change my shaft stiffness customer support not looking too good...
Ordered my 101s and wasn't sure which shaft to choose. I got the Tour Lite S and love them. You do feel the weight of the club head more, which I like. Great irons and wedges! I've used them for two months and have NO regrets in my purchase. Thank you Tim.
Great video Tim! Seems like the slight spin difference between them was the factor on the distance. For those in USA, head to any PGA Superstore and you can try both these shafts for free in their bays.
Great video. I'm still kicking myself for not getting the Cooper combo set you guys out out
Got the C-Taper Lite Stiffs in my clubs. Love them
I love videos like this, ty! Still saving up for my 101 t's, I'm 41 and don't get out often so they will be my first brand new set ever and the last one I buy :) Keep it up and ty
Just my opinion but because you don't get out a lot and this is your last brand new set I would lean towards the 101 imho
@@WayneOReilly I def appreciate the feedback and in most cases 100% agree. I used to be solid & w/ my lack of rounds I still hoover 75-84 so far this year so I want some workability still. I like to be creative. Ty honestly tho for looking out for us in the comments!
Excited for this one. Been holding off on buying irons until I finally pony up the money for a fitting. My swing is slower than yours, but it's a great comparison for base knowledge.
Loved the video Tim even the start when you dropped the club. How about doing one with the driver with the different shafts
Could you please configure a set for senior golfers {70 plus age group}? Curious to see what Takomo would recommend. Maybe with graphite shafts and arthritic grips? Thanks and great videos!
Great start Tim. Yeah not much difference between the shafts. I guess though as you said," its what you feel better playing, the lighter or the heavier. I would prefer the lighter shafts. Interesting try out though.
Will you please do comparison of the Takomo Obsidian 115 S/X graphite shafts and the KBS? Thank you for all the videos and product information.
I got the x stiff obs with the oversized lams it’s a heavy girl I can only
Imagine same as the tour or close there stiff though took me a
Minute I swing pretty fast I’m 31 6-2 205 lbs I almost gave up
On em but I slowed down and like he said attacked the ball on way down the forgiveness and spin of theses are excellent really is no spin whatever I target subconsciously it goes there like a dart and stays
No one will ever test that sorry
I love the irons, but I’m in my late 60’s. Do you guys carry a senior graphite shaft option ?
Will the 101Ts ever be available for lefties? Want to get out of GIs but also a little worried about forged clubs.
I've seen other comparisons on shaft weight and those found that swing speeds were pretty much the same between heavier and lighter. Dispersion changed but club speed didn't seems you see the same. Would be interesting to see if you find a difference on the golf course. Perhaps one will be more manageable for you.
If anything, it just highlights the consistency in the performance of the irons. Nice.
I believe the KBS chart shows the lite to be higher launch higher spin. Seeing how it affects your swing is a good reminder to get fit because while the lite was higher launch it definitely was lower spin here.
Would be interesting to see differences in PW:s and 4:s also!
Looking forward to seeing you on the course. For every par, you sing a verse from a Johnny Cash song,
I ended up getting a set of 101t irons with the regular KBS Tour shafts in stiff. I kinda wish I got them with the lite shafts instead
Where can I get the takomo staff bag behind you?
I did a fitting with kbs cuz i had disc replacement in my neck and changed my swing a little and went from kbs tour 120 S to kbs tour lite 115 XS and play 301 combo set. In my fitting only difference besides feel of the slight weight change was what i was looking for which was slightly higher ball flight due to the flex point and point of impact. I hope people dont see this video and buy tour lite shafts hoping for same results because you wont get them. So many swing factors go into what a shaft will do for you. The shaft is easily 80% of the performance of the club.
Which shafts is for a higher handicap player?
Just got my 201's with obsidian 95s. My callaway rogues have a project x 6.0 that's 120g. Wasn't sure if i should have gone with 115g. About to play my first round, wish me luck. Have to come back with how they feel.
Oh boy, never hit a club that felt so soft. First ball I hit I had to double check to make sure I actually hit the ball!
Do you like them more than your rogues?
Were the launch angles different between the two shafts?
Let’s see the same video but with obsidian shafts and KBS c-taper and c-taper lite
I ended up getting the kbs 110 Regular wish I would have gotten the lite but live and learn
Hi can I ask why you wished you’d gotten the lites? Ive recently had a Taylormade fitting and he recommended the KBS Tour 110, my issue is I’m 65 years old, I’d like this to be my last iron purchase so would think the lites would be my best option long term. Thanks.
😂🙌🏼🔥
I have the 201's which I could just get the 101t 4iron and 5 iron only
Can you get fitted for takomo irons?
I think dispersion would be the most important issue. Looking at the results, the lites had a tighter dispersion.
KBS Tour Lite is GOATed, IMO. I play a stiff Tour Lite and am a high swing speed player, it’s awesome.
extra stiff or stiff? im torn between the two
What is your swing speed
Did you match swing weights?
Have Axiom 105 S in my 101's including my wedges
Tim
You would expect that a lighter shaft would give you a bit more club head speed and therefore ball speed and carry distance. Interesting that you saw more ball speed from increased efficiency rather than club head speed. Overall though this suggests that the slightly lighter weight is better for your swing and strike.
201s with tour lite shaft just arrived today. Excited to test them out
How long did it take to get them ?
@@gridirongritoutdoors ordered on Monday and delivered the following Monday. Incredibly quick to say they ship from China.
di you stiff or x-stiff? let us know how they feel
I got the regular flex shaft. I used to have stuff so they're a bit more flexible than I'm used to but they play very nicely. Happy with the choice.
@@tkmasala thnx man prob do stiff tour lite than.. where u located how long was shipping for yah?
When are you guys going to sign Luke Kwon and Tae Co? Get on it. OKEHH!
So what does the lite differ from the tour? Is it the material?
Are they the same weight?
The Tour Lite shafts are 20% lighter than their Tour counterparts.
@@takomogolfcompany so both are 120g? But the lite feels 20% lighter?
@@takomogolfcompany and a question I have is, if I select the tour stiff or x-stiff, will they come in a 120g shaft?
@@AirsoftDelta18the “lite” is 110 grams in stiff. The “tour” is 120 grams in stiff. The “tour” in X flex is 130 grams. KBS also offers the “tour” in S+ and is 125 grams.
I bought the 101t with tour lite. Big mistake. Dont like them at all. I now realise i need a much heavier shaft. clubs will have to go infortunately and will put the ap2s back in the bag.
Can I ask why? I’ve been trying to decide if I should get lite or not
@@brierharmon5318 its just hard to feel the head when swinging. Im pretty strong and have a moderate if not faster swing. I feel its hard to get the club squarely back to the ball. I have a set of ap2 716 with AMT shafts. The PW is about 130grams as apposed to the takomo which is around 100, The titleist feel so much better. For me anyway. I now understand how imprtant club fitting is.
Are you talking swing weight or total weight when you're talking about it being heavier?
I can't believe you got through a whole video without specifying.
Where are the True Temper shafts? Taper tip? Anything other than KBS…
Would really be nice if someone would return my email or my chat on the website. I need to change my shaft stiffness customer support not looking too good...
Doesn’t surprise me.
man I wanna try out some 301mb
If you get on well with these you need to try out the $taper