I used to watch this show when I was younger and I’ve only now realised that Jane was only 23 (???) at the beginning of the show. She always felt so much older to me, but it really puts the chaos she felt into perspective
That’s the whole point of her and Xiomara’s relationship, right? Jane was parentified a lot because her mother had her at 16-17 and because she grew up without her father. And then we have overzealous devout Alba who is so adamant about slutshaming her daughter that she drills into Jane from such a young age that she was a mistake and she derailed her mothers life and to not repeat the same mistakes Xiomara did
This is my favorite show and started watching it when I was like 14. It’s so crazy that I’ll be 22 this year which is only a year younger than Jane, I just can’t comprehend that we’re supposed to be the same age.
The show was campy and ludicrous yet somehow very grounded and human. I miss this show so much but I’m so glad it got to tell a complete story. Jane, Rogelio, Petra, and Xo were my absolute favorite characters. And depending on the season, I rooted for and against both Raf and Michael to be with Jane.
The ability of the show to explore complex issues next to ridiculous shenanigans is really good. So many topics brought up. Alba and Xiomara's relationship tackled not only mother and daughter issues, but grief over the dad's death, the fear of deportation, how traumatizing shaming around sex is, specially in latinamerican and catholic cultures, the generational trauma... All in a nuanced way, no one felt like the bad guy, but people learning to communicate and heal. And a lot of murders in the background.
God, yes! I love how they tackled the Villanueva women and their dynamics with each other. No one was outright portrayed as the bad guy in any of the topics they discussed, it was always a matter of perspective and who was telling the story. It's such a breath of fresh air.
Jane The Virgin and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend were *peak* CW. The shows were able to incorporate all of the drama and camp that the channel was known/infamous for and meshes it with excellent writing and amazing characters. The shows mean a lot to me to this day. And I learned a surprising amount about myself through them.
Early CW also had some interesting shows, as carryovers from before the WB and UPN merge - Gilmore Girls and Supernatural being the first to come to mind.
Jane the Virgin is one of those shows that makes me go "god I love this stupid show (affectionate)" every time I watch it. You're really convincing me to do another re-watch!
Although tbh they were bisexual in name only, as afterwards these characters only ever have gay relationships and any interest they had in guys was completed excised. In Riverdale, you almost forget Cheryl was ever into guys at all.
it was rough in the middle but you did ultimately feel that jane the virgin just had that heart to it. and very much hoping for a crazy ex-girlfriend retrospective, that show isn’t talked about enough!
the amazing and unusual thing with this show is the more the seasons passed, the narratives became more convoluted but the characters more realized and grounded, packing a big emotional punch all the way to the end
With this show I was always a Michael and Jane person. When Michael died I was devastated, but I stuck around because I loved Jane and her family. I never liked Jane and Raphael together. It always felt like the writers were trying their hardest to get me to like them, but I just couldn't grow to like them. That aside I loved how the show married in a way the telenovela and western television. I miss this era of the CW where their shows were actually good and enjoyable to watch. I don't even watch the channel anymore.
I think my two favorite things about this show was the evolution of Raphael and Jane and always supporting each other and Petra’s arc. Petra went from this ruthless woman who wanted revenge and struggled to loving her kids and becoming a good mother. I love the poignant storyline was Jane’s and Petra’s family dinners as they promise each other that no matter what, they will stand together. It was sweet. I also like the family dynamics no matter how zany they are at times.
There was a weird time period where the CW had me locked in on a weekly basis between JTV,CEG, iZombie, and the arrowverse. Glad to see someone talking about this. And without it i wouldve missed justin baldoni, he seems like a really cool dude from the content hes put out after this
Justin baldoni seemse to have the same kinda chill personality as late raphael too. Dunno if that was his calling to hold talks about positive masculinity, that are very wholesome.
I watched this show when I was pregnant with my first. I was 18 and terrified of the idea of motherhood, especially with an unsupportive baby daddy. It comforted me a lot and made me feel a little less alone. I'll always love it
I loved this show!!!! Though I wasn’t a fan of them bringing Micheal back. Yeah he and Jane were my ship but it just bugged me. But even with that I loved how this show turned out
It couldn't be a telenovela unless Michael came back with amnesia. That is one of the central "must haves" for telenovelas. Because of that, I was glad they brought Michael back and then ultimately had him with Charlie in Montana. From the beginning, I wanted Jane to end up with Rafael. But the moment I _hated_ Michael as a character was when he hit Rafael outside of Petra's wedding *_While Rafael Was Holding The Baby._* A good person would never do that. From that moment on, I hated Michael.
I needed this recap to remember that, yes, I’m one of those viewers who stopped watching the show after they “wrote” Michael off the show! I can’t believe they brought him back lol
this show means so much to me, i watched it with my mom growing up and we loved it so much. now, probably 5 years later, my mom is watching it with her new bf and even got him a cameo from rogelio's actor for christmas lol.
I absolutely adored the first two seasons of this show. The way it respectfully portrayed Catholicism, even though I no longer identify as such, was refreshing. The bond between the Villanueva women was what truly drew me in, along with Jane's journey to motherhood and literary success (and Petra's fantastic character growth!). However, by later seasons, the telenovela parodies felt overplayed, a bit like a joke that had run its course. The turning point for me was Jason's (Michael's) fate at the end of season four. It felt like a cruel disservice to a well-developed character, and season five confirmed that. Rafael's constant emotional manipulation and his attempts to turn Mateo against his mother became tiresome. Unfortunately, some characters I initially loved, like Alba, her husband, and even Petra's new girlfriend, started to feel unlikable. While I could accept the inevitable "Jafael" endgame that was hinted at since the very start of the show, I thought Petra deserved something better, perhaps even staying single.
There is a joke in the end ish of season one where a bunch of nuns find out she's a virgin and pregnant and start making merch about it. I think it was at the school where she was working.
OH MY GOD I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO DO THIS. 🥺🥺🥺 Oversharing time! I was 14 when this show came out and 18 when it ended. I also lived in Florida during the first few seasons. To say it had an impact on my development is an understatement. It's my favorite show and to be Jane's age now when the show started is so full circle! 🥺🥺❤
I do see they were trying to make this Jane and Rafael's story from the beginning, but I think it is similar to How I Met Your Mother in that they knew where they wanted it to end and stuck with that, but everything they had written in-between had done it's job to show why the two leads should not be together.
Woah woah wait a minute. Did Michael say Jane had a crush on Rafael in HIGH SCHOOL!? Rafael is 8 years older than Jane so when she was in high school he was TWENTY FIVE YEARS OLD!? No wonder he didn’t call her, he realized he just made out with a freshly turned 18 year old.
@SunnyValley007 I’m in the middle of watching the show, so everything’s still fresh in my mind, and I can guarantee you that Jane was 18 when they kissed.
I remember trying to explain this show to my mom, and it was a LOT. Actually no, that’s a lie, I tried to explain only Petra’s story line, and I still couldn’t do it. With that being said, I love this show, even if it is the most. I feel like it did I a really good job of making truly buck wild stuff happen, while also making the characters of not realistic, at least grounded.
You've covered shows that I love and show that I never watched. you have such energy in your retrospectives and a great sense of humour. Just to get the suspense over with... this is one of the ones I didn't watch.
While i am on the ”michael deserved better” team i honestly grew to like the idea that sometimes life can give you two loves. Rafael even puts it well: that his and janes lovestory doesnt make hers and michaels any less important. More like a ”yes, and…” Jane and michael were in love and then he died…and then Jane continued to live and found a life with Rafael. I could be happy with that. And then, after making that point michael shows up again…and do they treat mah boi dirty…. So yeah, i loved jane and michael but i honestly would have rather seen their story remain a good memory than have them smear poop all over it with michael leaving his entire family and friends and life in Miami to go be a traumatised (wasnt he like suuuiper tortured by Rostro so he would lose his memory???) and dour cowboy…..
the ratings crashed after michael died so they had to bring him back, but not enough to actually let him stand a chance with Jane. If Brett Dier was brought back as Michael for the entire 5th season instead of just a guest starring role with amnesia, and they kept the tension the love triangle up until the end, it would have been way better
Jane x Rafael forever!!!!! But seriously I never expected to love this show as much as I did. It didn’t take itself too seriously, was so fun and a lot of heart. It was a fantastic project and I’m happy to see you talk about it. It deserves the attention!
I am one of the ones who stopped watching after Michael's death. The show was about Jane navigating an expected pregnancy with an added love triangle. Once she was married, there was no reason to revisit the Jane/Raf drama. If the only way to end your love triangle is to kill off a character, then the resulting relationship is very weak. If Jane and Raf are endgame, then Micheal should never have been an obstacle to overcome. Moreover, Micheal had excellent side plots that worked well with other characters. Micheal's death felt exactly like Tracy dying in the finale of How I Met Your Mother. It reduced Tracy's character as only the vessel to give Ted kids; in the same way, it reduced Micheal's character as the one Jane lost her virginity to.
We got the superior relationship out of it. Jane/Raphael. Michael held her back, and she wouldn't had any of the growth that she later had in the series.
@@holyrandomness5654 when did she hold him back?? he was extremely supportive of her when they got back together. yall always love to point out every single one of michael's faults but never rafael's.
@@hb1429 Big sads. You missed out on an incredible ending to the series. :3 I was soy happy watching the ending as the family all came together. Beautiful.
I cannot wait until you eventually break down Psych who also frames itself with childhood flashbacks and actually holds up pretty well instead of hard driving off a cliff.
I’m glad you made this video. I started watching this at a time when I watched every pilot and though it’s not even close to something I’d consider normally, it won me over by its sense of what it was and it’s commitment to it. My favorites are Deadwood and Breaking Bad and most of the films I watch are on the darker side. But I’ve always been a sucker for a good rom-com. I tuned out at some point in the final season, I think before it was known that it was the final season, and never bothered to finish it. It was a sweet show that certainly had its moments, but I’m glad I know how it ends so I don’t have to watch the rest of it 😂
Won’t even try. Her character evolution was truly one of the greatest in the history of tv. It would have been so easy to keep her as the beautiful, backstabbing, evil gold-digger. She evolved into an amazing human, friend, mother, sister to Jane, aunty/tooth fairy to Mateo and all of it felt organic. You could have never convinced me season 1 Petra was capable of all of that but by the end of the show it felt like the only logical conclusion.
As a JanexMicheal girlie I stopped watching the show after he died because I grew up with telenovelas and I NEEDED to know if he was coming back. I googled it and I was sooo disappointed 😔. Just bring back SOMEONE ELSE from the dead, bringing him back not only hurt his relationship with Jane (with trust and their MARRIAGE) but HIS character AS WELL!!!
I did. The baby daddy made it all about himself and it was expected for the audience to sympathize with HIM instead of the woman that got literal ptsd from Michael's "death" I was like...give me a break LMAO I had to laugh
I did. I only watched clips and watched the finale because once I started watching/reading something I HAVE to know how it ends or I'll go completely nuts. Even if it's something I've started to not like anymore. I loved Michael with all my heart, almost everything about him reminds me of my real life boyfriend. I wouldn't touch a man like Rafael with a 39 and 1/2 foot pole.
i stopped watching as soon as he went back to Montana. it was really poor writing and if they brought him back they should have brought him back in full.
I've never been a fan of the cliche of characters being writers, and this show did not change my mind. I think I got to the point in this series where Rogelio and Petra were just dual-handedly carrying it. They were the only reason I kept watching.
This show was pretty good but I really didn't like Raphael. I didn't mind him at first and I didn't care about the shipping but then in one of the later seasons, Raphael practically supported Mateo's hatred of Jane. And that was only because Raphael was mad about the Michael resurrecting fiasco and the possibility that Jane would choose Michael over him. Mateo had hated Jane so much and Raphael seemed ok with it. A normal parent would sit their kid down and explain that things are complicated but that loving his mom who's trying her best was more important than harboring hate. Especially since Jane was having SUCH a hard time already. It was so bad that Mateo pretended that Jane was a stranger in the street and almost got her in serious trouble. And at the end of the day when Jane broke down, Raphael didn't apologize, Mateo did. I probably don't remember all the details but after that, after Raphael allowed their child to pick sides in the middle of the mess that was Michael reviving and Jane experiencing emotional turmoil because of it, I couldn't stand Raphael. That episode ruined the show for me and I really didn't vibe with the series finale but that's just my opinion. Great video though!
He did apologize also they both have had toxic parent moment Jane literally tried keeping Mateo away from raf because in her words she didn’t want him to love him (his DAD). Michael punched a guy with no evidence while he was holding a baby resulting in that baby being hurt. I would literally never talk to him again
THANK YOU. If you talk shit about your child's mother in front of them, guess what? you're probably not a very good father. If you mistreat the mom, you mistreat the child as well. Period.
Crazy Ex Girlfriend holding that record is very on brand 😂😂 amazing show. Never got into Jane the Virgin much. I just watched episodes with Rose because she is incredibly gorgeous 😅
im gonna be honest. I know a lot of people did not like Micheal dying due to heart complications but it was the first show that ever made me cry. like normally in very sad shows, I just feel depressed cause I'm unable to express my emotions but I was watching that scene and I literally just wept.
The moment I stopped watching was when Michael came back. I understand why they did it and its a staple trope of Telenovelas, but Michael's "death" was also one of the most heart wrenching moments in the show and the way that Jane pulls herself up from it was so inspirational that I wish they hadn't backpedaled. The initial seasons really balanced parodying Telenovela tropes with genuinely beautiful moments that really got lost as the show went on. To this day I have no interest to complete it yet.
No Smallville, that show was and still very popular, till this day, even that the last three season left much to desire, I would love you do a retrospective on that TV Show, the relationship between Lex Luthor and his father Lionel was the best part of the show, and of course, Lex slow fall into darkness, he began very shady, controlling and secretive character, but after his first wife strand him into a island began his murderous tendencies.
i started watching this video and remembered i never finished it. i got a bit bored after THAT BIG DEATH … so i just binged the entire thing in these last few days while i’ve been sick, just so i can go back and watch this video lol
As someone who was a 13-14 year old Jane x Michael shipper watching this show, it was so obvious that they brought Michael back just to make Jane x Rafael shippers happy and it pisses me off to this day. I was starting to actually get used to the idea that Jane and Rafael would end up together in the end and I genuinely think it would’ve been a beautiful way for that story to develop. The way it happened in the end was so jarring ugh.
I remember around when this show first came out, watching the first season with my mom. We watched Desperate Housewives together, so it only made sense. But once she dropped it, I kept going. And my god, I wasn't sure why, but I fell head over heels in love with this cheesy show. It's what you'd expect from a telanovela, full of drama, twists, turns, romance, flair, all of it, but I came in knowing nothing about it. Now, looking back, I understand that I connected with Jane on some level. Both hopeless romantics, writers, and for a while, rather outspoken women. (I'm trans now lol, but that's besides the point.) I still love this show, despite its flaws, and it's become a comfort show I still revisit from time to time. Even if not many people know I love it, it makes my heart soft in a way I can't explain. (Also. After now 5 full rewatches, still wish Jane ended up with Michael. Rafael was never my thing, even if I did come to appreciate his character lol)
I used to watch this show when I was younger and I’ve only now realised that Jane was only 23 (???) at the beginning of the show. She always felt so much older to me, but it really puts the chaos she felt into perspective
woah i didnt realize she was only 23
That's crazy cause I watched it when I was 17 and I'm turning 23 this year?
I was 11-14 when this aired and now i’m 21… she wasn’t that much older than me going through so much
That’s the whole point of her and Xiomara’s relationship, right? Jane was parentified a lot because her mother had her at 16-17 and because she grew up without her father. And then we have overzealous devout Alba who is so adamant about slutshaming her daughter that she drills into Jane from such a young age that she was a mistake and she derailed her mothers life and to not repeat the same mistakes Xiomara did
This is my favorite show and started watching it when I was like 14. It’s so crazy that I’ll be 22 this year which is only a year younger than Jane, I just can’t comprehend that we’re supposed to be the same age.
It's been a full decade since this show first premiered. I loved how they leaned into its ludicrous premise, embracing the campy telenovela aspect.
The show was campy and ludicrous yet somehow very grounded and human. I miss this show so much but I’m so glad it got to tell a complete story.
Jane, Rogelio, Petra, and Xo were my absolute favorite characters. And depending on the season, I rooted for and against both Raf and Michael to be with Jane.
@@tariqthomas9090the cast has great chemistry too i wish we could see all of them work on another project
@@tariqthomas9090Xo gets so much hate I’m so happy someone else loves her 🥹 her character development is under appreciated
The ability of the show to explore complex issues next to ridiculous shenanigans is really good. So many topics brought up. Alba and Xiomara's relationship tackled not only mother and daughter issues, but grief over the dad's death, the fear of deportation, how traumatizing shaming around sex is, specially in latinamerican and catholic cultures, the generational trauma... All in a nuanced way, no one felt like the bad guy, but people learning to communicate and heal. And a lot of murders in the background.
God, yes! I love how they tackled the Villanueva women and their dynamics with each other. No one was outright portrayed as the bad guy in any of the topics they discussed, it was always a matter of perspective and who was telling the story. It's such a breath of fresh air.
Jane The Virgin and Crazy Ex-Girlfriend were *peak* CW.
The shows were able to incorporate all of the drama and camp that the channel was known/infamous for and meshes it with excellent writing and amazing characters.
The shows mean a lot to me to this day. And I learned a surprising amount about myself through them.
Gossip girl was peak cw
Early CW also had some interesting shows, as carryovers from before the WB and UPN merge - Gilmore Girls and Supernatural being the first to come to mind.
@@Xandar45and the Vampire Diaries.
I LOVE CRAZY EX GIRLFRIEND SO MUCH
Jane the Virgin is one of those shows that makes me go "god I love this stupid show (affectionate)" every time I watch it. You're really convincing me to do another re-watch!
We need to talk about the CW villian to bff to bisexual pipeline
honestly Petra was lowkey a gay awakening for me so the twist was a pleasant surprise
@@aconfusedcookie4615 Congrats on learning about yourself.
i hadn’t thought abt that but you’re right! lol jane the virgin with petra, crazy ex gf with valencia and riverdale with cheryl
@@avouleanceHahahaha thank you
Although tbh they were bisexual in name only, as afterwards these characters only ever have gay relationships and any interest they had in guys was completed excised.
In Riverdale, you almost forget Cheryl was ever into guys at all.
it was rough in the middle but you did ultimately feel that jane the virgin just had that heart to it. and very much hoping for a crazy ex-girlfriend retrospective, that show isn’t talked about enough!
the amazing and unusual thing with this show is the more the seasons passed, the narratives became more convoluted but the characters more realized and grounded, packing a big emotional punch all the way to the end
With this show I was always a Michael and Jane person. When Michael died I was devastated, but I stuck around because I loved Jane and her family. I never liked Jane and Raphael together. It always felt like the writers were trying their hardest to get me to like them, but I just couldn't grow to like them. That aside I loved how the show married in a way the telenovela and western television. I miss this era of the CW where their shows were actually good and enjoyable to watch. I don't even watch the channel anymore.
I agree with you, Michael and Jane were better together than Jane and Rafael, they even had more chemistry
Michael sucked so bad but I respect you
Michel was an asshole. He's death was only 'sad,' because Jane suffered. She as better off with Raphael.
@@holyrandomness5654 Keep telling yourself that, someday it will be true😂
@@strawaberry12 Nah. Its fact of the matter.
I'm glad to see so many Jane and Michael shippers here. What happened to them was devastating.
Agreed. The show was brilliant until they killed Michael off.
They show just wasn’t the same after what happened to him
I think my two favorite things about this show was the evolution of Raphael and Jane and always supporting each other and Petra’s arc.
Petra went from this ruthless woman who wanted revenge and struggled to loving her kids and becoming a good mother.
I love the poignant storyline was Jane’s and Petra’s family dinners as they promise each other that no matter what, they will stand together. It was sweet. I also like the family dynamics no matter how zany they are at times.
I adore Petra’s arc, so glad to see someone in this comment section talking about it!
There was a weird time period where the CW had me locked in on a weekly basis between JTV,CEG, iZombie, and the arrowverse. Glad to see someone talking about this.
And without it i wouldve missed justin baldoni, he seems like a really cool dude from the content hes put out after this
Justin baldoni seemse to have the same kinda chill personality as late raphael too. Dunno if that was his calling to hold talks about positive masculinity, that are very wholesome.
I watched this show when I was pregnant with my first. I was 18 and terrified of the idea of motherhood, especially with an unsupportive baby daddy. It comforted me a lot and made me feel a little less alone. I'll always love it
I loved this show!!!! Though I wasn’t a fan of them bringing Micheal back. Yeah he and Jane were my ship but it just bugged me. But even with that I loved how this show turned out
It couldn't be a telenovela unless Michael came back with amnesia. That is one of the central "must haves" for telenovelas. Because of that, I was glad they brought Michael back and then ultimately had him with Charlie in Montana. From the beginning, I wanted Jane to end up with Rafael. But the moment I _hated_ Michael as a character was when he hit Rafael outside of Petra's wedding *_While Rafael Was Holding The Baby._* A good person would never do that. From that moment on, I hated Michael.
@@dr.braxygilkeycruises1460didn’t rafael pass mateo to jane
“His name is Jason, Michael/jason and he calls me ma’am DO I LOOK LIKE A MAAM TO YOU?” 😂
I needed this recap to remember that, yes, I’m one of those viewers who stopped watching the show after they “wrote” Michael off the show! I can’t believe they brought him back lol
this show means so much to me, i watched it with my mom growing up and we loved it so much. now, probably 5 years later, my mom is watching it with her new bf and even got him a cameo from rogelio's actor for christmas lol.
I am a simple man. I see a Slip Maker video in my feed, i click
The trauma in your voice when you say “He works at… oh god, Miami Metro.” With clips from Dexter made me laugh my ass off
Same, loved that 😂😂 imagine a crossover.
omg i’ve been WAITING for someone to drop a video essay on this show
this video coming out right after i got tempted to rewatch the entire series is so serendipitous
I started binging the show on Netflix when I was studying abroad in 2017. I was hooked up until Micheal “died”. Micheal x Jane all the way
I’m a simple woman. If I see someone reference dishonoured in a video about one of my favourite sitcoms - I simply must like.
Been binging all your retrospectives and this popped up! So excited. I hope you plan to do Crazy Ex Girlfriend...
your taste is cool.
"yes, i an calling from havenview psychiatric hospital" is top comedy
I absolutely adored the first two seasons of this show. The way it respectfully portrayed Catholicism, even though I no longer identify as such, was refreshing. The bond between the Villanueva women was what truly drew me in, along with Jane's journey to motherhood and literary success (and Petra's fantastic character growth!). However, by later seasons, the telenovela parodies felt overplayed, a bit like a joke that had run its course. The turning point for me was Jason's (Michael's) fate at the end of season four. It felt like a cruel disservice to a well-developed character, and season five confirmed that. Rafael's constant emotional manipulation and his attempts to turn Mateo against his mother became tiresome. Unfortunately, some characters I initially loved, like Alba, her husband, and even Petra's new girlfriend, started to feel unlikable. While I could accept the inevitable "Jafael" endgame that was hinted at since the very start of the show, I thought Petra deserved something better, perhaps even staying single.
Yes, someone who agrees that Rafael is super toxic!
My wife watched this; I thought it was implied immaculate conception. Really happy to hear it was more down to earth I suppose.
There is a joke in the end ish of season one where a bunch of nuns find out she's a virgin and pregnant and start making merch about it. I think it was at the school where she was working.
You should do The Good Place
OH MY GOD I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO DO THIS. 🥺🥺🥺
Oversharing time! I was 14 when this show came out and 18 when it ended. I also lived in Florida during the first few seasons. To say it had an impact on my development is an understatement. It's my favorite show and to be Jane's age now when the show started is so full circle! 🥺🥺❤
I looove this show I’ve watched it so many times over the years, it’s such a comfort
This show was such a breath of fresh air when it was airing, loved the video!
I do see they were trying to make this Jane and Rafael's story from the beginning, but I think it is similar to How I Met Your Mother in that they knew where they wanted it to end and stuck with that, but everything they had written in-between had done it's job to show why the two leads should not be together.
Woah woah wait a minute. Did Michael say Jane had a crush on Rafael in HIGH SCHOOL!? Rafael is 8 years older than Jane so when she was in high school he was TWENTY FIVE YEARS OLD!?
No wonder he didn’t call her, he realized he just made out with a freshly turned 18 year old.
I remember the show saying she was 19 when she met Rafael. I think Michael was probably just exaggerating the high school stuff
@SunnyValley007 I’m in the middle of watching the show, so everything’s still fresh in my mind, and I can guarantee you that Jane was 18 when they kissed.
I remember trying to explain this show to my mom, and it was a LOT. Actually no, that’s a lie, I tried to explain only Petra’s story line, and I still couldn’t do it.
With that being said, I love this show, even if it is the most. I feel like it did I a really good job of making truly buck wild stuff happen, while also making the characters of not realistic, at least grounded.
I was just thinking about this channel. I feel like Weeds would make a good one of these, that series was all over the place.
You've covered shows that I love and show that I never watched. you have such energy in your retrospectives and a great sense of humour. Just to get the suspense over with... this is one of the ones I didn't watch.
Bro Mudder was so uneventful as a villan, i completely forgot he existed.
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS ONE THIS SHOW IS A MASTERPIECE
Oh boy another Slip Maker video ! Time to sit back & touch myself (in an in-depth, story analytical way)
Yet another banger i can put on for the night shift, thank you slippy.
While i am on the ”michael deserved better” team i honestly grew to like the idea that sometimes life can give you two loves. Rafael even puts it well: that his and janes lovestory doesnt make hers and michaels any less important. More like a ”yes, and…”
Jane and michael were in love and then he died…and then Jane continued to live and found a life with Rafael. I could be happy with that.
And then, after making that point michael shows up again…and do they treat mah boi dirty….
So yeah, i loved jane and michael but i honestly would have rather seen their story remain a good memory than have them smear poop all over it with michael leaving his entire family and friends and life in Miami to go be a traumatised (wasnt he like suuuiper tortured by Rostro so he would lose his memory???) and dour cowboy…..
the ratings crashed after michael died so they had to bring him back, but not enough to actually let him stand a chance with Jane. If Brett Dier was brought back as Michael for the entire 5th season instead of just a guest starring role with amnesia, and they kept the tension the love triangle up until the end, it would have been way better
Jane x Rafael forever!!!!!
But seriously I never expected to love this show as much as I did. It didn’t take itself too seriously, was so fun and a lot of heart. It was a fantastic project and I’m happy to see you talk about it. It deserves the attention!
i grew up on this show. it was completely insane, i loved it.
I am one of the ones who stopped watching after Michael's death. The show was about Jane navigating an expected pregnancy with an added love triangle. Once she was married, there was no reason to revisit the Jane/Raf drama. If the only way to end your love triangle is to kill off a character, then the resulting relationship is very weak. If Jane and Raf are endgame, then Micheal should never have been an obstacle to overcome. Moreover, Micheal had excellent side plots that worked well with other characters.
Micheal's death felt exactly like Tracy dying in the finale of How I Met Your Mother. It reduced Tracy's character as only the vessel to give Ted kids; in the same way, it reduced Micheal's character as the one Jane lost her virginity to.
We got the superior relationship out of it. Jane/Raphael. Michael held her back, and she wouldn't had any of the growth that she later had in the series.
@@holyrandomness5654 when did she hold him back?? he was extremely supportive of her when they got back together. yall always love to point out every single one of michael's faults but never rafael's.
@@majeda_a Nah, I know Rafael had faults. Micheal's were unforgivable.
I agree I stopped after Michael died I loved them as a couple
@@hb1429 Big sads. You missed out on an incredible ending to the series. :3 I was soy happy watching the ending as the family all came together. Beautiful.
babe wake up another full series retrospective
Only slipmaker could have me watch a Jane the virgin retrospective
Same.
"I always root for the sexy blond villians anyway." 🤣🤣🤣
I cannot wait until you eventually break down Psych who also frames itself with childhood flashbacks and actually holds up pretty well instead of hard driving off a cliff.
Thanks for not telling me Slip Maker uploaded. Very cool youtube
I’m glad you made this video. I started watching this at a time when I watched every pilot and though it’s not even close to something I’d consider normally, it won me over by its sense of what it was and it’s commitment to it. My favorites are Deadwood and Breaking Bad and most of the films I watch are on the darker side. But I’ve always been a sucker for a good rom-com. I tuned out at some point in the final season, I think before it was known that it was the final season, and never bothered to finish it. It was a sweet show that certainly had its moments, but I’m glad I know how it ends so I don’t have to watch the rest of it 😂
I haven’t watched this show in years and the main thing I remember is that Petra was insane but also so fun
crazy ex girlfriend is my favorite show of all time
the main character wasn´t Jane, it was Petra and no-one can convince me otherwise
Won’t even try. Her character evolution was truly one of the greatest in the history of tv. It would have been so easy to keep her as the beautiful, backstabbing, evil gold-digger. She evolved into an amazing human, friend, mother, sister to Jane, aunty/tooth fairy to Mateo and all of it felt organic. You could have never convinced me season 1 Petra was capable of all of that but by the end of the show it felt like the only logical conclusion.
Luisa was so annoying to me. How was this woman ever licensed to be a physician!
I absolutely loved the roller coaster ride of the plot. I was a Raph/Jane shipper. I should rewatch 🥹
This show was such a comfort to me in my teens. It's warm, funny and unique what else can I say
Ok but this made me look the song “Una Flor” by Juanes. Is such a good theme song and amazing track
The beauty of the show was insanity and how unrealistic it was. I LOVED it!
I am currently sitting down to prep for an exam, this is just in time!
I couldn’t finish one episode of that show but you bet your bottom dollar I’m watching this whole video
Babe, Slip Maker just posted 😊
You should make a retrospective on True Detective.
i rewatched the entire show solely to watch this video
Love your content ol' slippy
"speaking of creamy fillings" had me HOWLING bro that caught me so off guard
Love you Slip!!
Retrospective on house MD !!!
I'm curious if anyone stopped watching after they resurrected Michael?
I loved that part so much like a telenovela xD
As a JanexMicheal girlie I stopped watching the show after he died because I grew up with telenovelas and I NEEDED to know if he was coming back. I googled it and I was sooo disappointed 😔. Just bring back SOMEONE ELSE from the dead, bringing him back not only hurt his relationship with Jane (with trust and their MARRIAGE) but HIS character AS WELL!!!
I did. The baby daddy made it all about himself and it was expected for the audience to sympathize with HIM instead of the woman that got literal ptsd from Michael's "death" I was like...give me a break LMAO I had to laugh
I did. I only watched clips and watched the finale because once I started watching/reading something I HAVE to know how it ends or I'll go completely nuts. Even if it's something I've started to not like anymore. I loved Michael with all my heart, almost everything about him reminds me of my real life boyfriend. I wouldn't touch a man like Rafael with a 39 and 1/2 foot pole.
i stopped watching as soon as he went back to Montana. it was really poor writing and if they brought him back they should have brought him back in full.
I’m pretty sure this is the only CW show to win a Golden Globe.
12:13 ironic, because the previous clip is a reference to Requiem Of A Dream, which features the most disturbed addicts
That Skyler White joke was really funny hahaha
I've never been a fan of the cliche of characters being writers, and this show did not change my mind.
I think I got to the point in this series where Rogelio and Petra were just dual-handedly carrying it. They were the only reason I kept watching.
Would be cool if you did the ONCE UPON A TIME retrospective😂
I mean yeah, but the later seasons really tangled up the plotlines and character motivations
I still love every part of this series
Amazing! Any chance of a Grimm one?
Michael was done so dirty in the end…..Should’ve kept him dead….
I know it was joke but the promise of a musical review did get me to instantly hit subscribe you better deliver lol
Please do a Justified retrospective please, it's an amazing show
This show was pretty good but I really didn't like Raphael. I didn't mind him at first and I didn't care about the shipping but then in one of the later seasons, Raphael practically supported Mateo's hatred of Jane. And that was only because Raphael was mad about the Michael resurrecting fiasco and the possibility that Jane would choose Michael over him. Mateo had hated Jane so much and Raphael seemed ok with it. A normal parent would sit their kid down and explain that things are complicated but that loving his mom who's trying her best was more important than harboring hate. Especially since Jane was having SUCH a hard time already. It was so bad that Mateo pretended that Jane was a stranger in the street and almost got her in serious trouble. And at the end of the day when Jane broke down, Raphael didn't apologize, Mateo did. I probably don't remember all the details but after that, after Raphael allowed their child to pick sides in the middle of the mess that was Michael reviving and Jane experiencing emotional turmoil because of it, I couldn't stand Raphael. That episode ruined the show for me and I really didn't vibe with the series finale but that's just my opinion. Great video though!
He did apologize also they both have had toxic parent moment Jane literally tried keeping Mateo away from raf because in her words she didn’t want him to love him (his DAD). Michael punched a guy with no evidence while he was holding a baby resulting in that baby being hurt. I would literally never talk to him again
THANK YOU. If you talk shit about your child's mother in front of them, guess what? you're probably not a very good father. If you mistreat the mom, you mistreat the child as well. Period.
Crazy Ex Girlfriend holding that record is very on brand 😂😂 amazing show. Never got into Jane the Virgin much. I just watched episodes with Rose because she is incredibly gorgeous 😅
“Speaking of creamy fillings” took me OUT omg
Oh ive been waiting for this one !
im gonna be honest. I know a lot of people did not like Micheal dying due to heart complications but it was the first show that ever made me cry. like normally in very sad shows, I just feel depressed cause I'm unable to express my emotions but I was watching that scene and I literally just wept.
PLEASE do a retrospective on crazy ex girlfriend I love that show sm!!😭🙏
The moment I stopped watching was when Michael came back. I understand why they did it and its a staple trope of Telenovelas, but Michael's "death" was also one of the most heart wrenching moments in the show and the way that Jane pulls herself up from it was so inspirational that I wish they hadn't backpedaled. The initial seasons really balanced parodying Telenovela tropes with genuinely beautiful moments that really got lost as the show went on. To this day I have no interest to complete it yet.
I loved this show from the beginning and I legit cried during the series finale 😂😂
That spoiler bomb part was... dangerous
No Smallville, that show was and still very popular, till this day, even that the last three season left much to desire, I would love you do a retrospective on that TV Show, the relationship between Lex Luthor and his father Lionel was the best part of the show, and of course, Lex slow fall into darkness, he began very shady, controlling and secretive character, but after his first wife strand him into a island began his murderous tendencies.
i started watching this video and remembered i never finished it. i got a bit bored after THAT BIG DEATH … so i just binged the entire thing in these last few days while i’ve been sick, just so i can go back and watch this video lol
"Speaking of creamy fillings" 💀
25:24 made me screaming out loud,,, these in-between edits are so funny 😭
the jtv subreddit was such a wild place to be back then.. i got so many downvotes for being team michael ☠️
FYI, Skyler is not a villain.
I love your channel
Me and my mom love this show and we were big Michael stans so were screeeeaming when he came back lol we still wish she ended up with him
The amount of love I have for this show 💗
this show changed my life
As someone who was a 13-14 year old Jane x Michael shipper watching this show, it was so obvious that they brought Michael back just to make Jane x Rafael shippers happy and it pisses me off to this day. I was starting to actually get used to the idea that Jane and Rafael would end up together in the end and I genuinely think it would’ve been a beautiful way for that story to develop. The way it happened in the end was so jarring ugh.
Can you do Grimm or burn notice next? I feel like burn notice is a way better than 24 hours.
Another great video
I remember around when this show first came out, watching the first season with my mom. We watched Desperate Housewives together, so it only made sense. But once she dropped it, I kept going. And my god, I wasn't sure why, but I fell head over heels in love with this cheesy show. It's what you'd expect from a telanovela, full of drama, twists, turns, romance, flair, all of it, but I came in knowing nothing about it. Now, looking back, I understand that I connected with Jane on some level. Both hopeless romantics, writers, and for a while, rather outspoken women. (I'm trans now lol, but that's besides the point.) I still love this show, despite its flaws, and it's become a comfort show I still revisit from time to time. Even if not many people know I love it, it makes my heart soft in a way I can't explain.
(Also. After now 5 full rewatches, still wish Jane ended up with Michael. Rafael was never my thing, even if I did come to appreciate his character lol)