In my recollection I have never coughed at a pop or rock show. My cousin is a percussionist and every time I go to see him perform my throat becomes the Sahara the second I take my seat. I've started sneaking water bottles into venues.
Yeah, yeah... Me too. I always wonder if the crowd is cheering or not as well... In my bedroom in my underwear playing my electric that's not even plugged in.
The in-ear piece actually protects their hearing. My husband used to be lead singer in a group in the 70s. Today he has hearing loss and is waiting for his custom hearing aids as he can hear certain tones and not some registers. He tried playing at a wedding last week and he couldn’t hear what the other musician was playing. He was so disappointed in himself so he finally went to the audiologist. Protect your ears young ppl!
in one of the universities in British Columbia, they discovered that if you play a certain tone, after administering any form of magnesium, I forget which one, as long as the auditory hair cells haven’t died, you can restore hearing function. This may be well worth looking into for you.
I'd gladly take some hearing loss over what I have now, tinnitus. Bass player kept turning his shit up too loud and now I've had to suffer for it for 20 years.
@@daphneraven6745 You have to have taken the magnesium beforehand or directly after the hearing loss incident. Taking it years later I'm not buying it. The brain damage has already occurred.
I would have loved to have been a musician. All I ever wanted to do was entertain people with music. Life didn’t take me that way. I DJ’d for a few years but it just wasn’t the same. I play drums,..bass,..and was in a band for a while. Then several very traumatising life experiences put a stop to it. Respect to any musician reading this NEVER GIVE UP YOUR DREAM. EVER. ❤️🌷👌👍
I used to play the keyboard on a band. The thing is you really Ned to hear yourself louder. And also if you don't have metronome or the kick on your return you will fail tempo. So there is no room for other sound volumes
This is only for people with in ear monitors. Some people (like Foo Fighters) choose to still use stage monitors (usually wedge shaped speakers on the floor pointing at them) so that they can still have the genuine experience of being "in it" with the audience
Not really if you notice a lot of artist take out one of their ears once they interact with the crowd or they have Omni pattern mic setup on stage to hear the crowd and then the crowd is very low in their ears unless they tell the sound engineer otherwise. This is coming from a working sound engineer
@@ComaAlphaI have to disagree. As a (young) sound engineer I've already met plenty of situations in which the click and maybe also the count tracks were necessary: be it for automated lighting programs, backing tracks, video syncing...
@@ComaAlpha It might be more common that just the drummer gets the click track, and the rest of the band follows the drummer. But they're pretty darn common. As another poster said, they're really useful in syncing other aspects of the show.
For my first large live gig, an emo cover show, we didn't have any in ear tech, so i could hear everything: the drummer, the other guitarists, the lead singer, and the crowd. We were the headliner and the crowd was thoroughly wasted by the time we started and just going crazy singing along to everything we played. It's definitely an exhilarating experience when you can hear the crowd.
You can always use crowd mics and add that into the mix, so you can still hear the crowd even with in ear monitors. But the benefit is that you can control how loud the crowd mic is, so you can still hear the crowd but it doesn't cause hearing damage to you.
I love you Bernth. I love how you're down to earth and a regular guy with the rock star things. I love how you show the blood and sweat that goes with what you do. A decent guitar player myself, I honestly love how you present the guitar. Please stay humble and go far. Love you man.
@@wirti94 cool! I was a band geek: jazz, marching, symphony, etc. The ticking of the metronome is drilled into my psyche, along with band directors shouting out students to keep their foot tapping in pace.
@@MrBronsen15 just ask them... if it helps you play better then it helps him mix better for audience. Better you sound, the better their reputation will be. It's a team effort from everyone involved to deliver best performance to audience.
@@MrBronsen15please do, im trying to learn sound engineering and have done a couple gigs but still strugger with what mix to put in, in ears and monitors. So tell me
@@MrBronsen15I know a bunch of guys who've been doing sound for a long time and most of them are assholes but if what you want is possible they will get it for you, it's easier and better for everybody if you like your sound. Although if they think what you want is stupid or it's impossible they'll probably just wave their hand over a console and ask if it's better.
Monitor engineers are there to give you what you need. You just need to ask and we'll give it to you. Just don't be mad when we tell you it might be best for us to turn other things down to bring up what you want. Hearing fatigue is a real thing and IEMs can be just as dangerous as stage monitors, if not more so when handled incorrectly. If things start disappearing from your mix without you asking and your ears start to feel tight, it wasn't us... but you need to tell us so we can start to bring things down to safer levels.
You are a stronger man than me being able to deal with a click track while performing. I have no problem while in studio using a click, but when performing, I’ve always felt it knocks me off a bit. I prefer to let the drummer set my pace, and feed off him. Then again I am a bass player, and always felt it important to kind of improvise a bit to add some flavor, and customization.
Yeah I feel that! Our drummer wants to hear the click (reasonably) but the rest of us would rather just hear the drums without the click and play to match that
I think there is something to prevailing opinion that playing to a click is tighter, especially given how many bands sequence half their instrumentation these days, automated guitar effects, etc... but it produces same same sounding live gigs where the band sounds just like they do in the studio. There is a definite raw energy to live acts who don't go that route. It makes the music feel more alive.
Next do what amateurs hear(pnly the left kick drum,a really quiet rhythm guitar and the sound of your own heart beat from the rage the sound guy fills you with)
Yeah I just personally oppose the use of click tracks in most cases, I feel it stifles rubato, practicing to one is fine to get a solid internal groove, but otherwise one should rely on an internal clock not an external click
People think the band hears the same thing because they hear that. They don’t really think about it. This makes a lot more sense, since it allows them to focus on playing their best
i thought about it like yesterday i'm not kidding. I was wondering if singer hear himself very loudly from speakers and how he deals with it. But i knew something about that headphones that makes you hear yourself when you play and sing. Didn't really know how they exactly work. I was wondering about it because i'm learning to sing and for me personally it's kinda unusual to hear muself from speakers. You have to control position of microphone to make the sound not overwhelming when you scream
@RoyalUnicorn. Not always. My band sometimes plays with click and sometimes doesn't. For me it's so I don't go deaf in my 30s trying to hear people over the other side of the stage with foldback
@brassholio My band doesn't do clicks either...but it is to protect our hearing, and we definitely play better with in ears...I used to play without In Ears, and very comfortable with loud speakers...but now, it hurts and I find myself covering my ears when in front of very loud speakers when I didn't before, I'm 21.
@Bernthguitar You have the pedagogy that a pupil needs, the execution that a master would like, the love for music and development of an absolute humble man. You work on progress, as you may still be doing... I feel your flow is the true mastery about anything I am doing or still increasing the chances to begin to. THANK YOU, Enthusiast and a wonderful spread of consistency and purpose for practicing
@@tr3yywe just wear a good set of ear plugs. If you're not wearing them, you're not very smart. I'm a drummer, and have gotten so use to hearing myself play with earplugs in, it doesn't even sound right without them now. I can't stand playing to a click. I can do it, and have close to perfect timing from doing it so much from about 9 years old on, always being told to play with a metronome. At some point, a good enough drummer shouldn't need a click. Plus, some songs sound a lot better when you sway the bpm around a little. Led Zeppelin is famous for this, and I'm pretty sure their drummer knew what he was doing...
You can place small diaphragm mics on stage left and stage right to catch the crowd. When I mix monitors I feather them in and then in between songs push the fader a little more so the band hears the crowd. The band can hear whatever they want. It’s totally up to them.
@@philwhatever3903 Yeah. I'm so old-school that I feel like I'm miles ahead just making sure the guy doesn't butcher my PA mix. I'm a polite stage stomper.
Sound is a physical force. An obvious fact, you'd think, right? It didn't become real to me until I was playing my saxophone away from my home, in a very quiet place, and began to hear this very soft rattling undertone. It was a nearby snare drum reacting to the instrument's sound waves. It was an "Oh, duh" moment but very cool.
When I used to play back in the 80's, there was no click, we were lucky if there was onstage monitors. We could rarely hear vocals on stage, it was mainly the drums and your own guitar... and feedback
Many years back I played with my band with a crowd of 500+ for the 1st time. I was so nervous when I started playing no more crowds or other noises.. is so awesome like you're in your own room if u nervous just don't look at the crowd.
Except its exagerated and not normally like that video. I play at concerts this big. The sound is more muffled and bassy, like a pillow in front of the speakers sound, but still really loud sometimes and other times you can talk to each other, But when loud on stage certain instruments can get lost in the fold back mix. but its not weak and trebly like this video. Also the sound guy/gal gives us fold back via speakers or earpiece so we can hear better. We say "I need to hear more vocals", or "I need more f**kn guitar not less!" lol Btw Good musicians don't use click tracks, and still as rhythm keeping as a metronome, especially if your bass player and drummer are quality seasoned players. It's a natural ability that they either have or don't. The only time a click track should be used is at the start of a song the drummer isn't as familiar with. If he or she can't keep a tempo without a click track they need to find another job lol
I remembered this when i went to a concert& noticed the lead singer pull off their earpeice to hear the crowd sing along, even just for a few seconds ❤
Was an audio engineer and A1 for a lot of live shows, there's a lot of amazing nuances that go into producing what you the audience hear and what each member of the band wants to hear.
@@vodkasour8385 what are you talking about lol, almost every album has used clicks for the last 30 years and live performances are basically the same way
@vodkasour8385 lay off the vodka. I used to rely soley on my drummer, but if he screws up live, everyone notices. Less likely to mess up with a metronome in your ear.
I play very small places with external monitors, I hear more than that. I’ve tried in ear monitors, but I need to hear everything…including the crowd.😁
@@brendangibson8200 small venues don’t need crowd mics. I can literally walk among the crowd while performing. We’re talking local venues with 50-80 person capacities. It’s also the reason I would rather just use whatever equipment is provided by the venue. 9 out of 10 times, I’m not making any money from these performances, I do this to keep my sanity and it’s fun.
Except it's not accurate lol. Ive played at concerts that big. The sound is more muffled and bassy, like a pillow in front of the speakers sound, but still really loud, so certain instruments can get lost in the fold back mix. but it not weak and trebly like that. Also the sound guy gives us fold back via speakers or earpiece so we can hear better. We say "I need to hear more vocals", or "I need more f**kn guitar not less!" lol Btw Good musicians don't use click tracks, and still sound like a metronome, especially if your bass player and drummer are quality seasoned players. It's a natural ability that they either have or don't. The only time a click track should be used is at the start of a song the drummer isn't as familiar with. If he or she can't keep a tempo without a click track they need to find another job
@@brobinson8614exactly. The notion that every person on stage has a click track in their ear is quite ridiculous really. Perhaps for this band, but certainly not all bands. Behind the PA, it’s muffled and lacking clarity, aside from the bespoke mix in your monitor, whether floor or in ear. Often in a smaller venue, the top end of the drums, and the muffled rumble of everything else, is all you hear. Hence why rehearsing in a good room with amps facing inwards is a priority.
Ive never used a Metrodome on stage as a guitarist but i can see how it could be a useful tool. I've watched you become an incredible guitarist over the last four or five years. If you ever come over to the states and play Seattle Washington i will come to your show. 🤘
The metronome is probably coming from a playback system, which can add a few extra bits, like additional keys, backing vocals etc. the playback system also provides timecode, used by lighting and video, so everything happens on time.
@@brobinson8614 well, best start the hating with Pink Floyd then, who have been using clicks since at least the early 1970s. They had to use clicks since they had the visuals on the big circular screen behind them. If a band has synchronised video behind them, they’re using click to keep the band in sync with the videos. (Noting when Floyd started doing this, there was no video, they used 35mm projectors)
Yep. When I was doing gigs back in the late 90s, we upgraded our gear and went with ear monitors. Before then, like Yngwie, we were blasting our ears out. Hearing what the crowd hears.
Never heard of Berth before and now I'm subscribed and following on Spotify. 58 years young from Ireland 🇮🇪 🤟. Fantastic guitar work. Looking forward to listening 🎧.
He is a great guy, great player, and very good teacher. BTW, I am a Boomer and can easily see past the vast difference in Bernth's appearance and my own. This should be a two-way street (it is for him, he is not rude at all).
My dad played drums for over 60 years and I remember him telling me, "if your a drummer and need to play to a click track to keep time, thats sad. What kind of a drummer can't keep time in his head." He was very old school and very stubborn.
Not the drummers fault...guitarists rush when excited. He had great players around him. Every good drummer in my studio builds a loop to ensure timing...turn it off after drums are done.
@@Here-Is-My-Handle its called „Principessa“ by Austrian Band Seiler und Speer! A critical song about influencers who only care about superficial beauty and personality standards.
@@james437 its called „Principessa“ by Austrian Band Seiler und Speer! A critical song about influencers who only care about superficial beauty and personality standards.
Thank you for making me realize I cant produce the exact sound without the band. I would sound like the guitar solo sound but when its all fused together it moves the crowed. The band and the atmosphere helps create music. The solo guitar is you practicing your notes to notes in perfection with your soul. I love it Awesome! Bravo Video
I am a lead vocalist and during our live band we can hear EVERYTHING we trained our self to only be able to focus and concentrate on our own sounds while being able to listen to everything around us, YES its pretty awesome to do it on traditional way, although hard but yeah that's life.
It still wouldn't be that tight in a larger venue. Distance, sound reflection and bleed from fallbacks. If you're a bigger band this is infinitely better and tighter for the crowd, who the show is about. I invite you to watch back your own performance. It's not as tight as you think
My church had in ears and my mix was my bass all the way up, drums pretty high, rhythm guitar just loud enough to hear what chord was being played and lead vocal so I could keep up with where we were in the song.
That's what you hear if you have someone doing sound that gives a shit, sometimes your lucky if you hear anything more than your own guitar and the drummer. Makes it difficult to groove with the bass player or keyboard player, which is why it's important to know your own part in isolation. Been there done that.
Adam Grey does it. I on the other hand needed all of their voices. A lot of ya wanted only click tracks, but a group that works together needs each other.
These are important, because the sound is bouncing back with a delay. This can cause mistakes. These give them a clean loud sound that blocks out the reverb. Great video
Some artists do have audience mics for hearing the crowd. Some people don't like how boxed in they feel without them. Monitor mixing runs the whole spectrum. I've had people who want to hear everything and others who just want themselves and maybe some piano or guitar. There are some really high end things out there like Klang, where you can motion track the band around you as you move about the stage. So take this video with a grain of salt, this is just what this particular musician prefers to hear on stage.
@@Tom_G_Hauslerto use their energy? Seems like being present and hearing what’s going on makes for a better experience for both the crowd and the musicians
It really depends on what you're doing. If you're playing a theater show with dancers that have cues, or a Broadway show with changing tempos and no conductor it's pretty much a requirement
I appreciate they have there place, but as a ‘pro’ in ears have never been a pref, not even at Glastonbury infront of 10000 people. I much prefer the fluidity of a live performance without that restriction, no matter how big the show! BUT of course they have their benefits! ❤️👍🏼
@petesbeats6224 That's cool! When I'm doing jazz combo gigs, for example, of course I won't use IEM, but some shows just require it. Especially when you're MD and have to actually talk to the whole band on the fly with directions or count off's on a big stage.
Only some bands do this. Others will have each person set their own mix, usually with the drums pretty high in the mix as a replacement for the metronome.
@@trevorlaporte5951 not bragging I’m just old and I have always hated in ears it’s like wearing a condom takes away all the feeling but you probably have no idea what I’m talking about.
@@hangnail316 Ahhh yea. Love it when the old guys all bring their amps on stage and blast the venue, complain that they can't hear, then keep asking the sound guy for adjustments. Rock on
Well the first is what i always have heard for last 30 years from big/small venues to festivals, and loved every minute of it. We also had a click. It was called ”The drummer” 😂
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@@vincent7160that’s not how it works, especially when you’re playing with a lot of people in a large space like a church. There’s a reason why nearly every professional musician plays and practices to a click all the time. Even people with the best sense of rhythm can’t keep a steady tempo within a few bpms by the end of the track. There’s just too many variables, and it’s also really dumb to not use one, unless you’re playing a genre that uses free time like some jazz etc.
@magicmark3309 it's not dumb to not use a click. I can keep myself in time with the drums and the rest of the band. There's no point for me to play with a click.
yeah i feel you. I wonder if with metronome it feels more like an exam than a concert. Just let the music take its course. But actually who am i to give tips? They know better
@Oleg_K. yes, just search something like "starter iem / iems under 100" and start looking them up. They are just headphones thst go deeper into the canal and offer better isolation and superior sound drivers. Also make sure you try various ear tips for a secure fit. The entire headset rgb gamer / beats headphones industry is a scam, even 60 dollar iems I've purchased sound superior to very expensive beats headphones and it's not even close. Also look into open back headphones, start with the senheiser 560hds
@TheRealOwen1230 there are cheaper ones but the two I mentioned are excellent for the price. Also get a usb c android dongle or apple lightning aux dongle, they function as a dac (digital to analog converter) and will boost the headphones a bit
I used to totally be against in-ears. But after using them a few times, I love them. As a bassist all I want in my ears is my bass, the kick and snare, a little guitar and vocals, and no one else.
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So you're a magician, huh
What song is this? Damn I love it
What classical musicians hear:
1) ourselves
2) other musicians
3) people coughing right when there's a rest
And if you’re lucky that one new person that starts clapping between movements
@@AspynDotZip I've got that t-shirt lol.
Yup
In my recollection I have never coughed at a pop or rock show. My cousin is a percussionist and every time I go to see him perform my throat becomes the Sahara the second I take my seat. I've started sneaking water bottles into venues.
I like mixing in a bit of room noise. It makes you feel less separate from everyone in the crowd
So when they say “ WE CANT HEAR, MAKE SOME NOISE!!” they really meant it?
Probably, yeah
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Really messed with me at my first "big" show. Had no idea if the people were cheering or not and I was super in my head about it 😂😂
So you can remove one in-ear monitor, just use one. I always do like that.
Yeah, yeah... Me too. I always wonder if the crowd is cheering or not as well...
In my bedroom in my underwear playing my electric that's not even plugged in.
DUDE SAMEEE
Unfortunately they didn't have in ears when I was playing out, now I suffer from tinnitus, like a lot of us old rockers!
@@bmoneybby Meth is a helluva drug eh?
For two reasons, gotta hear what you're playing and also protect your ears.
When I was on stage I heard everything. My band mates, my solo, the deafening silence of the crowd, a stagehand falling over some chairs. Everything.
LOL🤣🤣🤣
This is what people with the in ear monitors hear.
Me if I was a stagehand 😂
😂
I take it you kept your day job?
Yeah, but you’re not famous so you’re irrelevant
As a soundguy. You can Hear What ever you want to hear and I will route it to your ears
Exactly
i just imagined a bassist who wants to listen to a podcast 😂
@@notenoughmice We can help him accomplish that
@@FOHguythat would be hilarious to know my hubby (bassist) is listening to his finance podcasts while playing a metal show 🤣🤣
I misread that as, “As a sound guy, you can hear whatever I want you to hear.”
The in-ear piece actually protects their hearing. My husband used to be lead singer in a group in the 70s. Today he has hearing loss and is waiting for his custom hearing aids as he can hear certain tones and not some registers. He tried playing at a wedding last week and he couldn’t hear what the other musician was playing. He was so disappointed in himself so he finally went to the audiologist. Protect your ears young ppl!
Now we want to know what band your husband was in 🤔🥰
in one of the universities in British Columbia, they discovered that if you play a certain tone, after administering any form of magnesium, I forget which one, as long as the auditory hair cells haven’t died, you can restore hearing function.
This may be well worth looking into for you.
@@daphneraven6745 bullshit
I'd gladly take some hearing loss over what I have now, tinnitus. Bass player kept turning his shit up too loud and now I've had to suffer for it for 20 years.
@@daphneraven6745 You have to have taken the magnesium beforehand or directly after the hearing loss incident. Taking it years later I'm not buying it. The brain damage has already occurred.
I would have loved to have been a musician. All I ever wanted to do was entertain people with music. Life didn’t take me that way. I DJ’d for a few years but it just wasn’t the same. I play drums,..bass,..and was in a band for a while. Then several very traumatising life experiences put a stop to it. Respect to any musician reading this NEVER GIVE UP YOUR DREAM. EVER. ❤️🌷👌👍
Sounds like my life. Music , then trauma then I got old.
@@NatDC2012 exactly buddy. Now I’m really mad at life. The world. God. Guess I shouldn’t be but 🤷🏻♂️. Hey ho. lol.
Genuine question, but why can't you still become a musician?
I'm not talking professionally, but at least as a hobby.
Make electronic music, leave the need for recognition behind. Life is good
I kinda knew this but I’m still a bit disappointed that they don’t get to fully appreciate the audience’s reactions and the general atmosphere.
that mostly depends on the venue
It depends on the band
I used to play the keyboard on a band. The thing is you really Ned to hear yourself louder. And also if you don't have metronome or the kick on your return you will fail tempo. So there is no room for other sound volumes
This is only for people with in ear monitors.
Some people (like Foo Fighters) choose to still use stage monitors (usually wedge shaped speakers on the floor pointing at them) so that they can still have the genuine experience of being "in it" with the audience
Some do have mics specifically for crowd/atmos so they can choose/adjust the level that comes through
Makes it even more impressive when they work the crowd during songs
Not really, there are several feed setups on most that they can find with a button press and get what they need.
Not really if you notice a lot of artist take out one of their ears once they interact with the crowd or they have Omni pattern mic setup on stage to hear the crowd and then the crowd is very low in their ears unless they tell the sound engineer otherwise. This is coming from a working sound engineer
@@Folsomdsf2shut up
@@jamesb.3869 You get a chance to play with Klang yet? It's wild. xD
@@Rad_Ski you never been on stage in your life
You left your blinker on
You just made my day :-).
Every single time I hear a click....
Car community... ASSEMBLE!
It’s called a metronome it’s used to keep you in time and to not go to fast when playing
Good job sherlock @@Mr.variety381
Very true with in-ear. I much prefer floor monitors, i like to hear the natural sounds. In-ears always fall out when i'm rocking.
“Man, the metronome really sounds great tonight!”
LOL
Always on time. It's like a machine...
Yeah, okay.
Sound guy switches it to goofy clown honks instead 👀
@@garlandpoolfredpool Switches to repetitions of "doh".
They hear what ever they tell the sound man they want in their mix
I worked with a band that had an in ear setup where each musician had an iPad and controlled their own mix. Pretty sweet!
@littlemeg137I've never heard of a band outside of Nails or Nails tribute bands to use click tracks in a live setting.
As a sound engineer and a musician, I approve of this message.
@@ComaAlphaI have to disagree. As a (young) sound engineer I've already met plenty of situations in which the click and maybe also the count tracks were necessary: be it for automated lighting programs, backing tracks, video syncing...
@@ComaAlpha It might be more common that just the drummer gets the click track, and the rest of the band follows the drummer. But they're pretty darn common. As another poster said, they're really useful in syncing other aspects of the show.
For my first large live gig, an emo cover show, we didn't have any in ear tech, so i could hear everything: the drummer, the other guitarists, the lead singer, and the crowd. We were the headliner and the crowd was thoroughly wasted by the time we started and just going crazy singing along to everything we played. It's definitely an exhilarating experience when you can hear the crowd.
You can always use crowd mics and add that into the mix, so you can still hear the crowd even with in ear monitors. But the benefit is that you can control how loud the crowd mic is, so you can still hear the crowd but it doesn't cause hearing damage to you.
The “crowd” was his grandparents in his living room lol.
@@Boringunguysomeones salty they never got to do this. stay broke buddy
What band? I must confess that I got curious to check it out!
I read emo cover, as Elmo cover, and I was surprised there was an audience for an Elmo band, however i stand corrected
I love you Bernth. I love how you're down to earth and a regular guy with the rock star things. I love how you show the blood and sweat that goes with what you do. A decent guitar player myself, I honestly love how you present the guitar. Please stay humble and go far. Love you man.
That’s when you get quality PA. Most of us mortals play submerged in the mix and hear LOUD NOISES! 😂
Absofucknlutely
And then you end up deaf
@@TildenCats what I can't hear you!!!!
@@TildenCats what?
Drums and noise! Yep! Sometimes I'll be suspicious we aren't on that same part of the song anymore...
Hearing that metronome for 1hr straight would drive me nuts
You never practiced playing a musical instrument before 😅
So why have a drummer going 200,bpm ?
@@johnschrader7949 Well I've been playing bongos for 8 years now and I havent actually used metronome :P
@@wirti94 cool! I was a band geek: jazz, marching, symphony, etc. The ticking of the metronome is drilled into my psyche, along with band directors shouting out students to keep their foot tapping in pace.
When you’re locked in, the metronome practically disappears
That venue is incredible, wow.
But nobody jumping or singing.😅
I think its in austia leoben
Its a main square, of an usually very boring city in Austria
Looks like the acoustics would be horrendous
@grenworthshero Much better than a stadium with reverberations off the concrete stands.
I've always been really curious about this! Thanks for sharing 😊
Being on stage is surreal. A good sound person and asserting your needs in your own feedback mix is crucial. Took me too long to figure it out.
I’m still not assertive enough with letting him know what I need. I feel like I’m just a hassle to them. Dumb I know
@@MrBronsen15 just ask them... if it helps you play better then it helps him mix better for audience. Better you sound, the better their reputation will be. It's a team effort from everyone involved to deliver best performance to audience.
@@MrBronsen15please do, im trying to learn sound engineering and have done a couple gigs but still strugger with what mix to put in, in ears and monitors. So tell me
@@MrBronsen15I know a bunch of guys who've been doing sound for a long time and most of them are assholes but if what you want is possible they will get it for you, it's easier and better for everybody if you like your sound. Although if they think what you want is stupid or it's impossible they'll probably just wave their hand over a console and ask if it's better.
Monitor engineers are there to give you what you need. You just need to ask and we'll give it to you. Just don't be mad when we tell you it might be best for us to turn other things down to bring up what you want. Hearing fatigue is a real thing and IEMs can be just as dangerous as stage monitors, if not more so when handled incorrectly. If things start disappearing from your mix without you asking and your ears start to feel tight, it wasn't us... but you need to tell us so we can start to bring things down to safer levels.
You are a stronger man than me being able to deal with a click track while performing.
I have no problem while in studio using a click, but when performing, I’ve always felt it knocks me off a bit.
I prefer to let the drummer set my pace, and feed off him. Then again I am a bass player, and always felt it important to kind of improvise a bit to add some flavor, and customization.
Yeah I feel that! Our drummer wants to hear the click (reasonably) but the rest of us would rather just hear the drums without the click and play to match that
I think there is something to prevailing opinion that playing to a click is tighter, especially given how many bands sequence half their instrumentation these days, automated guitar effects, etc... but it produces same same sounding live gigs where the band sounds just like they do in the studio. There is a definite raw energy to live acts who don't go that route. It makes the music feel more alive.
agreed. click in studio, drummer does what the hell they want with the tempo live
@@igorjakobsen1694 a rogue drummer will not be appreciated by the guitarist and his delay effects
@@ccreature7086 we use tap delay for this
This is why some famous musicians looked so shocked when they take off their earpiece and hear how loud the crowd is ❤
Taylor SWIFT
HARRY Styles
Niall Horan
@@rhondapearce8525 lol
I love playing live! Such an awesome feeling having you and your guitar soloed out
Next do what amateurs hear(pnly the left kick drum,a really quiet rhythm guitar and the sound of your own heart beat from the rage the sound guy fills you with)
💯 accurate
This.
Accurate af
Ahahah 👌🏼 yep 😄
IM DOING MY BEST OKAY😂
The panic i would get if i miss one tick by a fraction of a second is unimaginable😅
Realistically, if you only missed that and got back on track, the crowd probably won't even notice through their screams. 😊
Yes, I need to hear the rest of the band,
Don't overestimate the crowds ability to hear mistakes, most of them can't unless it's really bad.
i just listen to my drummer to follow the pulse of the song, he’s giving me, and i’ve played w drummer that listen to the click and others that don’t
Yeah I just personally oppose the use of click tracks in most cases, I feel it stifles rubato, practicing to one is fine to get a solid internal groove, but otherwise one should rely on an internal clock not an external click
People think the band hears the same thing because they hear that. They don’t really think about it. This makes a lot more sense, since it allows them to focus on playing their best
It's to keep tempo.
i thought about it like yesterday i'm not kidding. I was wondering if singer hear himself very loudly from speakers and how he deals with it. But i knew something about that headphones that makes you hear yourself when you play and sing. Didn't really know how they exactly work.
I was wondering about it because i'm learning to sing and for me personally it's kinda unusual to hear muself from speakers. You have to control position of microphone to make the sound not overwhelming when you scream
😅 imagine you can hear all the raucous of the crowd at the same time, you ll leave the stage.
@RoyalUnicorn. Not always. My band sometimes plays with click and sometimes doesn't. For me it's so I don't go deaf in my 30s trying to hear people over the other side of the stage with foldback
@brassholio My band doesn't do clicks either...but it is to protect our hearing, and we definitely play better with in ears...I used to play without In Ears, and very comfortable with loud speakers...but now, it hurts and I find myself covering my ears when in front of very loud speakers when I didn't before, I'm 21.
@Bernthguitar You have the pedagogy that a pupil needs, the execution that a master would like, the love for music and development of an absolute humble man. You work on progress, as you may still be doing... I feel your flow is the true mastery about anything I am doing or still increasing the chances to begin to. THANK YOU, Enthusiast and a wonderful spread of consistency and purpose for practicing
Hearing the crowd is the best part of doing shows
till your doing shows that actually damage your ears & make them hurt.
You don’t want tinnitus
Trust me, you REALLY don’t want tinnitus. It effin sucks.
@@tr3yywe just wear a good set of ear plugs. If you're not wearing them, you're not very smart. I'm a drummer, and have gotten so use to hearing myself play with earplugs in, it doesn't even sound right without them now. I can't stand playing to a click. I can do it, and have close to perfect timing from doing it so much from about 9 years old on, always being told to play with a metronome. At some point, a good enough drummer shouldn't need a click. Plus, some songs sound a lot better when you sway the bpm around a little. Led Zeppelin is famous for this, and I'm pretty sure their drummer knew what he was doing...
@@tr3yyit wont if you put some hearing protection in your ear, i hear the crowd without even damaging my ears, best of both worlds
Imagine playing your first gig without knowing this and thinking the crowd doesn't even like you 😭😂
that happened to me. Wasn't wearing earpiece though
There is a slightly greater than 0% chance you'll be using IEMs on your first gig.
You can place small diaphragm mics on stage left and stage right to catch the crowd. When I mix monitors I feather them in and then in between songs push the fader a little more so the band hears the crowd. The band can hear whatever they want. It’s totally up to them.
You sound like a good soundman!
@@JRJigsawyer Thank you. I try. 🤷🏻♂️
90% of soundmen DHAF what we are saying. 😂
I still like a good floor monitor and I at least get the drum mix and hopefully the bass.
Yea I was going to comment something similar,
Foldback is literally dependent on the individual artist.
@@philwhatever3903 Yeah. I'm so old-school that I feel like I'm miles ahead just making sure the guy doesn't butcher my PA mix. I'm a polite stage stomper.
Oh my ...the crowd , the venue reverb sounds heavenly....i wish i was there i bet i would cry whilst frozen still in awe
But its a GREAT feeling when you can FEEL the roar from a crowd... chills every time I think about that feeling
Sound is a physical force. An obvious fact, you'd think, right? It didn't become real to me until I was playing my saxophone away from my home, in a very quiet place, and began to hear this very soft rattling undertone. It was a nearby snare drum reacting to the instrument's sound waves. It was an "Oh, duh" moment but very cool.
It's relatively quiet, with the speakers pointed away. You can talk to each other in a normal voice in many cases
On a professional Soundstage yes, but not in the bar with open mic hacks lol
You beat me to it lol @@gmc1966
How do you know?
No, no you cannot.
Yeah try that with the beatles. They couldn’t even heard themselves play because the crowd would scream louder than what they can play
When I used to play back in the 80's, there was no click, we were lucky if there was onstage monitors. We could rarely hear vocals on stage, it was mainly the drums and your own guitar... and feedback
Yeah. I played keyboards and I couldn't tell if I was even in the mix.
This is what I was just saying 👍😁👍
That's better than anything I ever heard on stage, usually it's just cymbals and vocals lol
Depends always on what the musician wants to hear. He can decide on his own and the technician has to set up the mix he want to hear.
I played in front of a crowd so big before I could almost see all 6 of them from behind the kit.
Yo, you were at that show too!?😂
@@Indarow 😂
I would have freaked. I played in front of 4 people once. I was so nervous.
Many years back I played with my band with a crowd of 500+ for the 1st time. I was so nervous when I started playing no more crowds or other noises.. is so awesome like you're in your own room if u nervous just don't look at the crowd.
Ah, that's why singers can still hear their voice loud and clear despite the crowd's noise.
I would love to hear the full version of that song
Seiler und Speer - Principessa👍🏼
I love these insider videos you do of what's its really like to be a touring artist
Except its exagerated and not normally like that video. I play at concerts this big. The sound is more muffled and bassy, like a pillow in front of the speakers sound, but still really loud sometimes and other times you can talk to each other, But when loud on stage certain instruments can get lost in the fold back mix. but its not weak and trebly like this video. Also the sound guy/gal gives us fold back via speakers or earpiece so we can hear better. We say "I need to hear more vocals", or "I need more f**kn guitar not less!" lol
Btw Good musicians don't use click tracks, and still as rhythm keeping as a metronome, especially if your bass player and drummer are quality seasoned players. It's a natural ability that they either have or don't. The only time a click track should be used is at the start of a song the drummer isn't as familiar with. If he or she can't keep a tempo without a click track they need to find another job lol
I remembered this when i went to a concert& noticed the lead singer pull off their earpeice to hear the crowd sing along, even just for a few seconds ❤
I always thought it was a sound diffuser or crowd quieter, so they could just hear the music/their own voice
@@nootnoot-2 yea, they can still hear the crowd, but its not as loud for them. Its like wearing noise cancelling headphones basically.
his music deserves a bigger crowd! 🎶
Spot on! It sounds better out front than behind the speakers. It's why we ask how does it sound when we talk with friends in the crowd.
Was an audio engineer and A1 for a lot of live shows, there's a lot of amazing nuances that go into producing what you the audience hear and what each member of the band wants to hear.
Starting out as a performer, I want to hear what yhe musicians hear...after a while, Id wanna hear yhe crowd
Thats why I love crowd/ambeince mics!
Every venue is different. What you hear depends on a lot of factors. Sometimes you can hear everything and sometimes not.
God bless musicians. That clicking in the ear would drive me nuts!
when you’re on time enough, you start to not notice it. it kind of becomes part of the music
You can turn it off if you want, a potential problem could be if you have also have sequences and cues
You get used to it. The first few times were bad for me. Keeps everyone in time.
@@vodkasour8385 what are you talking about lol, almost every album has used clicks for the last 30 years and live performances are basically the same way
@vodkasour8385 lay off the vodka. I used to rely soley on my drummer, but if he screws up live, everyone notices. Less likely to mess up with a metronome in your ear.
I play very small places with external monitors, I hear more than that. I’ve tried in ear monitors, but I need to hear everything…including the crowd.😁
That's when you set up crowd mics
Same we run almost everything thru monitors. 3 up front and on pointing at the drummer
@@brendangibson8200 small venues don’t need crowd mics. I can literally walk among the crowd while performing. We’re talking local venues with 50-80 person capacities. It’s also the reason I would rather just use whatever equipment is provided by the venue. 9 out of 10 times, I’m not making any money from these performances, I do this to keep my sanity and it’s fun.
Not to mention the subpar sound quality of IEM vs real speakers pushing air!
I can usually just hear the drums hahaha
Love your tone! ❤
This is probably my favorite video on youtube. I have ALWAYS wondered what y'all were hearing. Thank you for having the answer!
Except it's not accurate lol. Ive played at concerts that big. The sound is more muffled and bassy, like a pillow in front of the speakers sound, but still really loud, so certain instruments can get lost in the fold back mix. but it not weak and trebly like that. Also the sound guy gives us fold back via speakers or earpiece so we can hear better. We say "I need to hear more vocals", or "I need more f**kn guitar not less!" lol
Btw Good musicians don't use click tracks, and still sound like a metronome, especially if your bass player and drummer are quality seasoned players. It's a natural ability that they either have or don't. The only time a click track should be used is at the start of a song the drummer isn't as familiar with. If he or she can't keep a tempo without a click track they need to find another job
@@brobinson8614exactly. The notion that every person on stage has a click track in their ear is quite ridiculous really. Perhaps for this band, but certainly not all bands. Behind the PA, it’s muffled and lacking clarity, aside from the bespoke mix in your monitor, whether floor or in ear. Often in a smaller venue, the top end of the drums, and the muffled rumble of everything else, is all you hear. Hence why rehearsing in a good room with amps facing inwards is a priority.
Click tracks are used for bands that play with backing tracks and triggered samples really. No other need for them…
Ive never used a Metrodome on stage as a guitarist but i can see how it could be a useful tool. I've watched you become an incredible guitarist over the last four or five years. If you ever come over to the states and play Seattle Washington i will come to your show. 🤘
I was at a gig last night, the drummer was clearly their metronome, no click track necessary.
The metronome is probably coming from a playback system, which can add a few extra bits, like additional keys, backing vocals etc. the playback system also provides timecode, used by lighting and video, so everything happens on time.
The Metrodome 😂, sounds like if Queer Eye for the Straight Guy had a gladiator spinoff
I refuse to like a band that is so incompetent it has to use click tracks.
@@brobinson8614 well, best start the hating with Pink Floyd then, who have been using clicks since at least the early 1970s. They had to use clicks since they had the visuals on the big circular screen behind them. If a band has synchronised video behind them, they’re using click to keep the band in sync with the videos.
(Noting when Floyd started doing this, there was no video, they used 35mm projectors)
Yep. When I was doing gigs back in the late 90s, we upgraded our gear and went with ear monitors. Before then, like Yngwie, we were blasting our ears out. Hearing what the crowd hears.
@@larrycourtney8893 Uh, hearing loss, my friend. At 46 years old, I now have a constant ringing in my ears. F# to be exact. Protect your ears!!
Once i got used to in-ear monitors i was hooked. Never play without them now
Never heard of Berth before and now I'm subscribed and following on Spotify. 58 years young from Ireland 🇮🇪 🤟. Fantastic guitar work. Looking forward to listening 🎧.
Not young. About to die
@@hedonist2104 I see your channel is doing well.....😂
@@hedonist2104What a bizarre comment.
@@hedonist2104 says the organ donor
He is a great guy, great player, and very good teacher. BTW, I am a Boomer and can easily see past the vast difference in Bernth's appearance and my own. This should be a two-way street (it is for him, he is not rude at all).
My dad played drums for over 60 years and I remember him telling me, "if your a drummer and need to play to a click track to keep time, thats sad. What kind of a drummer can't keep time in his head." He was very old school and very stubborn.
Not the drummers fault...guitarists rush when excited. He had great players around him. Every good drummer in my studio builds a loop to ensure timing...turn it off after drums are done.
Click are often use for midi timing with lightning so the lights can match up the performance
Well, then you get drummers like what's-his-nuts from Metallica. I'm blanking rn
@@RAWDEAL064 Lars Ulrich
If you're gonna play click track in ear you might as well unplug the guitar and let the playback do the rest
Oh goosebumps when I hear this beautiful solo! I love that song!
What song is it please?
What’s the name of the song? It’s not showing up on Shazam.
@@Here-Is-My-Handle its called „Principessa“ by Austrian Band Seiler und Speer! A critical song about influencers who only care about superficial beauty and personality standards.
@@james437 its called „Principessa“ by Austrian Band Seiler und Speer! A critical song about influencers who only care about superficial beauty and personality standards.
@@james437curious too!
Thank you for making me realize I cant produce the exact sound without the band. I would sound like the guitar solo sound but when its all fused together it moves the crowed. The band and the atmosphere helps create music. The solo guitar is you practicing your notes to notes in perfection with your soul. I love it Awesome! Bravo Video
I am a lead vocalist and during our live band we can hear EVERYTHING we trained our self to only be able to focus and concentrate on our own sounds while being able to listen to everything around us, YES its pretty awesome to do it on traditional way, although hard but yeah that's life.
Your hearing is gonna be shot in your later years my dude
It still wouldn't be that tight in a larger venue. Distance, sound reflection and bleed from fallbacks. If you're a bigger band this is infinitely better and tighter for the crowd, who the show is about. I invite you to watch back your own performance. It's not as tight as you think
I want this live version on spotify
What is the original song?
I'd like to know too
Wanna know the song name as well
Any luck?
@@blizzard1646 Seiler und Speer - Principessa
As someone who has ran the tech for stuff similar to this I can say that I've seen a few people go mildly insane from the click track.
More important to stay in time. Rhythm is music.
FINALLY, a video explaining this, always wondered what you guys hear.
It's only one perspective.
Many bands don't use clicks or just use stage monitors and hear everything.
That's some impressive audio tech! It must be so nice to be able to focus on your work without major distractions.
It’s harder to play with a click track.
My church had in ears and my mix was my bass all the way up, drums pretty high, rhythm guitar just loud enough to hear what chord was being played and lead vocal so I could keep up with where we were in the song.
As a singer I perfer to keep one ear in and the other free. I love to feel the crowds energy. 😊
That's what you hear if you have someone doing sound that gives a shit, sometimes your lucky if you hear anything more than your own guitar and the drummer. Makes it difficult to groove with the bass player or keyboard player, which is why it's important to know your own part in isolation. Been there done that.
Is this complete solo on Spotify or TH-cam? Sounds amazing.
Im a bassist and i stand next to the drummer so usually half way through a song i cant hear anything
Adam Grey does it. I on the other hand needed all of their voices. A lot of ya wanted only click tracks, but a group that works together needs each other.
CAN YOU PLEASE RELEASE THIS ON SPOTIFY. IT IS BEAUTIFUL!
I second that
X3
This is a real song.
what is the name of the song please
@@beelzebufu5448 It‘s Principessa by Seiler und Speer.
These are important, because the sound is bouncing back with a delay. This can cause mistakes.
These give them a clean loud sound that blocks out the reverb.
Great video
Wow... that's really wonderful 😲😲
Some artists do have audience mics for hearing the crowd. Some people don't like how boxed in they feel without them. Monitor mixing runs the whole spectrum. I've had people who want to hear everything and others who just want themselves and maybe some piano or guitar. There are some really high end things out there like Klang, where you can motion track the band around you as you move about the stage. So take this video with a grain of salt, this is just what this particular musician prefers to hear on stage.
All I have in my IEMs is keyboard first, then song leader and a bit of the backup singers.
WHAT SONG DAMN IT
Seiler und Speer - Principessa
‘Click Click’ by The Metro Gnomes
Kinda sounds like march to the sea by baroness but I don’t think that’s what it is
@@Baron_Greenback lol😂
still lookin too
You can use ambience mics to hear the crowd
What for😅?
Might create an echo of the music tho
I would rather be able to hear the rest of the band more than the crowd lol (no offense, hypothetical crowd)
Tends to backfire
@@Tom_G_Hauslerto use their energy? Seems like being present and hearing what’s going on makes for a better experience for both the crowd and the musicians
I appreciate some acts require this, but personally, I prefer the fluidity and connection in a true live scenario x
It really depends on what you're doing. If you're playing a theater show with dancers that have cues, or a Broadway show with changing tempos and no conductor it's pretty much a requirement
For a pro musician wedges are just unacceptable, you will 100% encounter hearing loss long term. In ears are necessity, not a comfort.
I appreciate they have there place, but as a ‘pro’ in ears have never been a pref, not even at Glastonbury infront of 10000 people. I much prefer the fluidity of a live performance without that restriction, no matter how big the show! BUT of course they have their benefits! ❤️👍🏼
@petesbeats6224 That's cool! When I'm doing jazz combo gigs, for example, of course I won't use IEM, but some shows just require it. Especially when you're MD and have to actually talk to the whole band on the fly with directions or count off's on a big stage.
Love this footage!
This broke my heart when I first learned this. To think that my favorite band is jamming so hard to clicks and shit is depressing.
Only some bands do this. Others will have each person set their own mix, usually with the drums pretty high in the mix as a replacement for the metronome.
A click track doesn’t magically change the music 😂. Such a dumb hang up, they are still playing.
dont worry good bands dont use metronome
@@greyarea1004 I guarantee you that if they are running backing tracks or synchronized light shows, they use a click. They HAVE to.
I prefer playing without metronome clicks, just hearing the bass and the drums.
I only need the snare 😏
drums are really good metronome. Just let the drummer do his job
@@Luigi-jy7wqthe drummer is using click
Not always possible, depending on the show you're playing.
@@jimpryor99 idk bro. I've played one that didn't use it
Imagine being able to experience that presence on stage. F@#king awesome 😲😲
#king
Sir this type of information in very helpful....
Thank you once again ❤️👍
I played a local show a while back and we were the only band not using in ear monitors. It was an awesome feeling.
That's not the brag I think you think it is
@@trevorlaporte5951 not bragging I’m just old and I have always hated in ears it’s like wearing a condom takes away all the feeling but you probably have no idea what I’m talking about.
This is Rock , i wish I could watch your stage
@@hangnail316 Ahhh yea. Love it when the old guys all bring their amps on stage and blast the venue, complain that they can't hear, then keep asking the sound guy for adjustments. Rock on
@@hangnail316
Yeah SRV use to rock his in ears ...oh wait
Well the first is what i always have heard for last 30 years from big/small venues to festivals, and loved every minute of it.
We also had a click. It was called ”The drummer” 😂
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Thank you!!
This is why musicians have only one ear-port. 😅
You can hear your guitar? Man that’s some next level shit
Do you have hearing loss, or did you just not listen?
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Wow...that's such great perspective. Thank you!
Huge difference
The click track is my best friend, I’ve been playing with my church for 3 years and it’s gotten to the point where I almost can’t play without it
Stop using it! You don't need it anymore then!!
@@vincent7160 it doesn't really work like that
@@vincent7160that’s not how it works, especially when you’re playing with a lot of people in a large space like a church. There’s a reason why nearly every professional musician plays and practices to a click all the time. Even people with the best sense of rhythm can’t keep a steady tempo within a few bpms by the end of the track. There’s just too many variables, and it’s also really dumb to not use one, unless you’re playing a genre that uses free time like some jazz etc.
Everything you said makes me sad.@@magicmark3309
@magicmark3309 it's not dumb to not use a click. I can keep myself in time with the drums and the rest of the band. There's no point for me to play with a click.
The first thing that came to mind with that "clicking" sound is; I gotta have more cowbell!
Couldn't not notice that your string action is actually pretty high.
It’s kinda hard to get a good read on his action because of the fisheye lens
YOU CALL THAT HIGH?!
Oh
my
god...
@@i_want_my_shuggahcertainly not low
@@DrinkWater713 I don't care. That action is nowhere near a high one.
Is it bored play with that click all time?
Metronome clicks it helps with the rythm and timing. Professional stuff.
@@dimitris.4484 I know it helps, but is not fun :D, it's just professional and that's it
*constant metronome beeping*
Jerry Smith: hmmm human music, I like it.
yeah i feel you. I wonder if with metronome it feels more like an exam than a concert. Just let the music take its course.
But actually who am i to give tips? They know better
@@Luigi-jy7wq or use the metronome just for the drummer
In ear monitors... I highly recommend everyone buy a pair and listen to music through them, they will change your life
Could you please talk more about it? What are the benefits? And some of the downsides?
@Oleg_K. yes, just search something like "starter iem / iems under 100" and start looking them up. They are just headphones thst go deeper into the canal and offer better isolation and superior sound drivers. Also make sure you try various ear tips for a secure fit.
The entire headset rgb gamer / beats headphones industry is a scam, even 60 dollar iems I've purchased sound superior to very expensive beats headphones and it's not even close.
Also look into open back headphones, start with the senheiser 560hds
Yeah what are you talking about exactly
Could you explain more and also where do I get some??
@TheRealOwen1230 there are cheaper ones but the two I mentioned are excellent for the price. Also get a usb c android dongle or apple lightning aux dongle, they function as a dac (digital to analog converter) and will boost the headphones a bit
I used to totally be against in-ears. But after using them a few times, I love them. As a bassist all I want in my ears is my bass, the kick and snare, a little guitar and vocals, and no one else.