I had commented on your insta post asking about this and have patiently awaited this video. Thank you so much. You're helping me out of the funk I'm currently in.
ha! that is definitely one of the most fun "features" of the sp404sx. I've never seen anyone else do it. It really can produce some very interesting, bizarre, and unexpected sounds and phrases.
Sick sick sick man! So rad. What a fun thing to do. It’s like a low budget looper in a way. The glitch is so fun and what a cool way to find new beats. Get it going and throw a synth over it and it’s there. Really tribal glitchy haha. Thanks for the hack. I knew there was something to the feedback setting.
DAWG WHAT. I just traded my SP404MK2 for an MPC One Plus but kept my SX. Been digging through tutorials to find ways to use it linked up with my MPC. Been using it to make glitchy madness and then sampling into the MPC and do the hard work there. This is so damn cool haha.
First of all, very nice vid! I love your content! 2nd, you may want to check out the delay on the sp-555. That delay seems to do an infinite loop without fading out. Also, you might already know this. You can set the bpm before recording. After you press the record button, press the time/bpm button. With ctrl knob 2 or 3 you can adjust the bpm. This will make your loops sound clean.
Although not a sampler, I used the same glitch trick with the Roland tr-8 delay. Using the delay as a looper also allows to play many variations of each drum in a different pitch/decay/kit in the same loop despite the lack of motion record.
God Dam man you just blew my mind. I've had my 404 for a number of years and this never occurred to me keep doing your thing, Thank you! you're a BEAST!!
the octatrack can do something similar to this using the delay, set the feedback to max which i think is half a bar or eight steps, switch off tape mode (or leave it on for crazy pitch wobbles), make sure pass through is on, crack the send to max, play in some stuff, go nuts.
I've been doing this lately with my OT but with a thru machine and three neighbor tracks. Thru on T1 with delay, and delay and all three neighbor tracks. I set contradictory parameter scenes and use the crossfader to morph between them until I find a rythm I like, sample it, repeat. I generally set each delay's time, feedback, send and width to the scenes so that (for example) delay 1 time will be locked to 2 on scene a and to 24 on b and delay 2 opposite so that time will be locked to 48 on a and 6 on scene b (or something like that) and so on....
Just got my 404SX yesterday. Been using a Roland VT-4 with it. So that's hours of entertainment and zero real work... ha! Great content as always, thanks.
I actually just found a delay where I can do this, albeit not a hardware delay. I'm testing out bitwig 3 beta 1, and in the new modular device, there's a 'long delay' module that you can loop back into itself, and it's super fascinating to play with. I never thought of tying it to a discrete beat length though, so I might just do that.
The Boss DD5 delay pedal does this as well. It's not quite the same but very similar. And what you can do with it isn't as immediate because it's just a delay pedal as opposed to a looper or a sampler but you can use it to make samples with.. like set the feedback to infinite and the delay time to the slowest possible play something into it, jack it up full of digital rhythmic glitches by fucking with the delay time knob and then sample whatever you get from that. But like I said, not immediate like this
This is so crazy! I've always done hiphop stuff but this definitely makes me want to try more house like beats. Now does the glitching still happen on the MK2??
Pioneer EFX-500 and EFX-1000 will do something similar, there are some old videos with James Zabiela demonstrating the technique, basic advantage of the EFX-1000 is more time and MIDI implementation.
I have both 500 and 1000, the 1000 takes a bit longer to find the right bpm as for the 500 its so precise but i think you can midi link them together for a better sync, i haven't tried that yet because i have a small space to work with. Both machines together can make good loops!
@@itimmy101 I tend to lean on a guitarist's approach so the EFX-1000 seems more interesting to use with a foot controller, having experience with both the SP-555 and the EFX-500 it seems like the EFX-1000 would make for a better looper and overall effects machine. Read some interesting comments comparing both EFXs regarding overall sound quality versus specifications, would like to know your thoughts on that if you don't mind.
Yep...this is the popular "hold echo" looping. There are plenty of hip-hop DJs that use that technique to make beats on the fly and recreate classic sampled flips. The feature is on most Pioneer DJ mixers. Also notable is that the EFX-1000's looping is non-destructive, so once you have a loop you can shorten it and bring it back up to the original loop. It's a good way to create fills on the fly. The EFX-500 doesn't do this. I have a EFX-500 and a DJM-909 also. The 909 is a beast. It has 2 FX engines so it's like having 2 EFX-1000s. The routing is pretty flexible and you can use a footswitch, the only downsides are there's no midi clock sync (only tap tempo and live beat detection) and all the setting are through menus on a touchscreen. The EFX units are easier to grab and play with, but I'm putting the EFX-500 on the shelf and replacing it with the SP-404a.
It’s not as powerful as this but I did some similar shit with the basic delay in reason. Just record everything that comes out while you roll up (or down) on the delay time and after that cut up the audio, so no live usage just to getcsome glitchy samples
This makes me miss using my SP-202 for messed up loops. I've been using a Digitakt since it broke a few years back, and it's much better, but It's fun to use other workflows too.
This is siiick! This is just the Looper Ive ever wanted. And this makes the sp able to live sample. Amazing technique. Is this possible on the 404 og as well?
Not 100% sure but I don’t see why they would change between the 2. So should be alright. But honestly the SX is faster and better in almost all workflow aspects
I was wondering since I have the og, but I’m not able to try it right away. I was also asking since they changed the vinyl sim between the two, maybe they change something more
Was looking into getting an SP. Question, Sp 404 or Sp555? Are there different scenarios where one has an advantage over the other? Currently using Ableton with a Push 2 and Komplete Kontrol S61
Thanks for the video! The delay on the old denon dns-1000 CDJs worked liked this, to great effect. Obviously no resample, but without self-oscillation you could delay into a loop and then get all glitchy chopping it up, using the wheel to divide. Also, unrelated, but is that electric piano sound at 30seconds in the circuit or a sample you loaded?
@@jrbarbosa8342 Maybe mine was broken then? Because when I would switch between delay lengths while using it like a looper, the loops I would create got cut off. Every time.
@@TheTylrBllmn you cannot switch between delay lenghnts while doing this. choose one delay lenght and choose the feedback amount you want to use and don't touch the knobs again. it's normal for the sound to cut if you are changing delay times while doing this.
@@jrbarbosa8342 He literally shows himself doing this FIRST THING in the video man, he's using an SP-404sx and NOT an OG SP-404. The OG 404 doesn't function in the same way. That's what I said already!!!
I made an album entirely based on the SP404 delay being used as a looper because of this exact effect.
where to listen to?
Love the delay hack, but the beat was pure gold when you brought in that compressor.
I’ve had a 404 for at least 12 years. This is completely new process and such an amazing idea. Can’t wait to have some fun with it
Just when I think that my setup with ableton is good for a while, I start seeing your vids and the GAS starts controlling me once again.
instablaster
Yo this is great this brought a whole new world to me using external with the sp
I love using the delay style to come up with unique patterns. Especially if you’re out of ideas, you can just experiment with random sounds.
It amazes me that there are still a bunch of different ways to mess around with this thing. Thanks dude! def gonna try it out
Stay tinkering !!
You are so responsible for me still holding onto my 404. This tip is fantastic! Thank you!
Love your videos with the 404, each one makes me see how much more versatile that machine is. Going to have to have a go on one somewhere.
This is a great video. I received both as quarantine birthday gifts and watching your videos has helped me so much.
I had commented on your insta post asking about this and have patiently awaited this video. Thank you so much. You're helping me out of the funk I'm currently in.
Sp-4O4 seems to be very interesting....I need to re-watch few of Your videos with it. Sp-4O4 still kickin' in 2019!
This method was made famous by DAKIM, go check his live set, it's a different thing
yeah with the microsampler.this is him too th-cam.com/video/dpJklc19zgs/w-d-xo.html
fucking love that set!! dakim murdered that whole set
@@sebp400 he had a Boss sp-505 doing the delay effect too haha
Man, I'm gonna cry right now... Thanks! Can't wait to try this thing...
Each video you post is pure knowledge gem! Also, we're still waiting for some samples from you ..
Another great tip man! Thanks! I bought a circuit solely after seeing your videos. I have been BLOWN away by this thing
I dig all your SP404 stuff. I've owned a v1 since '07 and your workflow is an eye-opener to me. Been rethinking how I use it for sure.
Good to hear! Thanks for watching Steve
Super cool and glitchy sporatic creativity man. Thank you 😊
ha! that is definitely one of the most fun "features" of the sp404sx. I've never seen anyone else do it. It really can produce some very interesting, bizarre, and unexpected sounds and phrases.
Actually Dakim invented this technique. Check out his Boiler room. He built the whole set using this hack.
You make such quality videos that are nice to watch and so informational. Respect. Thank you!
just bought a sp404sx on the spot. what a video!!
This guy has that teching way that make it easier to understand
Sick sick sick man! So rad. What a fun thing to do. It’s like a low budget looper in a way. The glitch is so fun and what a cool way to find new beats. Get it going and throw a synth over it and it’s there. Really tribal glitchy haha. Thanks for the hack. I knew there was something to the feedback setting.
It figures this machine is exactly what I need! And it’s on back order til September! Ugh
DAWG WHAT.
I just traded my SP404MK2 for an MPC One Plus but kept my SX. Been digging through tutorials to find ways to use it linked up with my MPC. Been using it to make glitchy madness and then sampling into the MPC and do the hard work there. This is so damn cool haha.
First of all, very nice vid! I love your content!
2nd, you may want to check out the delay on the sp-555. That delay seems to do an infinite loop without fading out.
Also, you might already know this. You can set the bpm before recording. After you press the record button, press the time/bpm button. With ctrl knob 2 or 3 you can adjust the bpm. This will make your loops sound clean.
that bass sound is incredible
yessss i used to do this all the damn time with quad delay on my organelle a few years back
Although not a sampler, I used the same glitch trick with the Roland tr-8 delay. Using the delay as a looper also allows to play many variations of each drum in a different pitch/decay/kit in the same loop despite the lack of motion record.
thanks for the info going to try this out
God Dam man you just blew my mind. I've had my 404 for a number of years and this never occurred to me keep doing your thing, Thank you! you're a BEAST!!
I'm going to try this out to get my head around it. Interested to see how the end result different from building up a loop via re-sample method.
Another glitch-in-the-buffer delay... Microkorg!
Much love!! thx for sharing
Mr Martinez got the funk. Don't ever stop a rockin. Keep it dirty.
o yea!
Thank you for sharing this, I appreciate ya!! 👊🏿
this is cool - i might need to break out my 404 again after seeing this trick - thanks mate
the octatrack can do something similar to this using the delay, set the feedback to max which i think is half a bar or eight steps, switch off tape mode (or leave it on for crazy pitch wobbles), make sure pass through is on, crack the send to max, play in some stuff, go nuts.
I've been doing this lately with my OT but with a thru machine and three neighbor tracks. Thru on T1 with delay, and delay and all three neighbor tracks. I set contradictory parameter scenes and use the crossfader to morph between them until I find a rythm I like, sample it, repeat.
I generally set each delay's time, feedback, send and width to the scenes so that (for example) delay 1 time will be locked to 2 on scene a and to 24 on b and delay 2 opposite so that time will be locked to 48 on a and 6 on scene b (or something like that) and so on....
Just got my 404SX yesterday. Been using a Roland VT-4 with it. So that's hours of entertainment and zero real work... ha! Great content as always, thanks.
The OG Line6 DL4 did that. Main reason I was bummed when mine broke lol
The MC707 can do something similar and when you play with the delay time locked to the BPM. Worth checking out.
Which delays?
this is huge!
Those supercard stickers 👍 Chances are you ran into dibiase too
Love this. Thanks for sharing... 🤘
404 MAGICIAN
Cool shit. Anyone know if the mk2 functions this way as well?
Getting one tomorrow
Awesome trick, thank you! :D
You can do that with any sampler with an automation function. Just change the delay rate while being in write mode.
DezzyTee I’m pretty sure Simpler in ableton would work to recreate the effect with some clever setup
@@Evildandalo I don't use Ableton so I can't comment on that. I'm on either Logic or straight on my MPC.
Love that setup. Nice tips
smooth, dude
I just love your Channel
Yo, just watching you use the 404 is super helpful, i've already learned a lot of time savers! specifically the mark button! hoooo fuuuuu....
Game changer right?!
dope combo, hoping to one day find a SX at an affordable price lol.
been a year, did you ever? lol
Souvlaki nope just bought a rack for live 10
You get what you pay for, its worth the full price. Dont compromise or sell yourself short, work for it! You only live once
love your vids man. thank you
duuuuuude frickin freak frick shit dang!
I actually just found a delay where I can do this, albeit not a hardware delay. I'm testing out bitwig 3 beta 1, and in the new modular device, there's a 'long delay' module that you can loop back into itself, and it's super fascinating to play with. I never thought of tying it to a discrete beat length though, so I might just do that.
super dope
If there's a soon to be released product, that rhymes with immolation rivet possum, which would also be a good fill in for a 404... blink twice.
Cool bro
Cool technique👌🙏
Great Tip!
Very creative, gonna try this. Thanks!
this is crazy
Learn so much
brilliant!
The DD500 does the glitch in the loop thing in the Analog mode!
Ooooooo
Thank you.
Mind.....blown.
The Boss DD5 delay pedal does this as well. It's not quite the same but very similar. And what you can do with it isn't as immediate because it's just a delay pedal as opposed to a looper or a sampler but you can use it to make samples with.. like set the feedback to infinite and the delay time to the slowest possible play something into it, jack it up full of digital rhythmic glitches by fucking with the delay time knob and then sample whatever you get from that. But like I said, not immediate like this
Huh, I've done stuff like this on my DigiTech Obscura.
This is so crazy! I've always done hiphop stuff but this definitely makes me want to try more house like beats. Now does the glitching still happen on the MK2??
Very cool. Thanks for sharing! I'm interested in ways to have a whole set where I build and tear loops down. This is a hot tip. Anymore? 😁😁
Amazing tip friend! Thx✌🏻🤘🏻
dats super cute
Im going to try and mimick this with maschine... Cool idea !! With maschine and my sp404sx i mean..
Nice trick, never used mine like a looper like this.
Pioneer EFX-500 and EFX-1000 will do something similar, there are some old videos with James Zabiela demonstrating the technique, basic advantage of the EFX-1000 is more time and MIDI implementation.
I have both 500 and 1000, the 1000 takes a bit longer to find the right bpm as for the 500 its so precise but i think you can midi link them together for a better sync, i haven't tried that yet because i have a small space to work with. Both machines together can make good loops!
@@itimmy101 I tend to lean on a guitarist's approach so the EFX-1000 seems more interesting to use with a foot controller, having experience with both the SP-555 and the EFX-500 it seems like the EFX-1000 would make for a better looper and overall effects machine. Read some interesting comments comparing both EFXs regarding overall sound quality versus specifications, would like to know your thoughts on that if you don't mind.
Whoa a foot controller would be awesome
Yep...this is the popular "hold echo" looping. There are plenty of hip-hop DJs that use that technique to make beats on the fly and recreate classic sampled flips. The feature is on most Pioneer DJ mixers. Also notable is that the EFX-1000's looping is non-destructive, so once you have a loop you can shorten it and bring it back up to the original loop. It's a good way to create fills on the fly. The EFX-500 doesn't do this.
I have a EFX-500 and a DJM-909 also. The 909 is a beast. It has 2 FX engines so it's like having 2 EFX-1000s. The routing is pretty flexible and you can use a footswitch, the only downsides are there's no midi clock sync (only tap tempo and live beat detection) and all the setting are through menus on a touchscreen. The EFX units are easier to grab and play with, but I'm putting the EFX-500 on the shelf and replacing it with the SP-404a.
Sick
love this video, just wish the levels of the microphone was a bit lower so you could hear the music better :3
It’s not as powerful as this but I did some similar shit with the basic delay in reason. Just record everything that comes out while you roll up (or down) on the delay time and after that cut up the audio, so no live usage just to getcsome glitchy samples
Cool technique. How about some industrial next time.
This makes me miss using my SP-202 for messed up loops. I've been using a Digitakt since it broke a few years back, and it's much better, but It's fun to use other workflows too.
legit vidio this is
nice hack! I should try it with the SP-505, but I'm not sure it can resample the ext source live.. I'll try :-/
why would you want to replace your sp404?
This is siiick! This is just the Looper Ive ever wanted. And this makes the sp able to live sample. Amazing technique.
Is this possible on the 404 og as well?
Not 100% sure but I don’t see why they would change between the 2. So should be alright.
But honestly the SX is faster and better in almost all workflow aspects
I was wondering since I have the og, but I’m not able to try it right away. I was also asking since they changed the vinyl sim between the two, maybe they change something more
Does anyone know if it's possible to do with a sp 303 and another sampler like an mpc for shot the samples? Thanks!
Was looking into getting an SP. Question, Sp 404 or Sp555? Are there different scenarios where one has an advantage over the other?
Currently using Ableton with a Push 2 and Komplete Kontrol S61
I wonder if the TR-8S could do this(minus the sampling of course)? One way to find out :)
Hey Ricky, what's the cable setup in this video? Cheers
Really nice! What sound patches/samples are they on the Circuit?
Your welcome
Thanks for the video! The delay on the old denon dns-1000 CDJs worked liked this, to great effect. Obviously no resample, but without self-oscillation you could delay into a loop and then get all glitchy chopping it up, using the wheel to divide.
Also, unrelated, but is that electric piano sound at 30seconds in the circuit or a sample you loaded?
Wow that’s awesome! Thanks for that information. The sample at the end is just a sample not the sound on circuit.
Where can I find those “Supercard” stickers at?
sadly the delay glitch on ctrl 1 does not work with the OG SP-404
This is the Dakim technique, here's him doing a full set using it. th-cam.com/video/AmQ7AMnooj0/w-d-xo.html
Ey man, check out qu-bit prism. May be what you're looking for.
Dude. Thanks for this. I'm trying to become you, and this helps. JK, but seriously, thank you.
This is all somewhat different on the OG 404, for those wondering. The SX is very different!!
no it's not. I have one. the delay effect is on the same place and does exactly that
@@jrbarbosa8342 Maybe mine was broken then? Because when I would switch between delay lengths while using it like a looper, the loops I would create got cut off. Every time.
@@TheTylrBllmn you cannot switch between delay lenghnts while doing this. choose one delay lenght and choose the feedback amount you want to use and don't touch the knobs again. it's normal for the sound to cut if you are changing delay times while doing this.
@@jrbarbosa8342 He literally shows himself doing this FIRST THING in the video man, he's using an SP-404sx and NOT an OG SP-404. The OG 404 doesn't function in the same way. That's what I said already!!!
Oh that looks like such interactive fun. I may just find space for one of these in my chaos.