Yeah, I think one thing i've heard goes wrong is that those DMs think that they have free rain over everything as the storyteller, when really they're the world builder.
I swear, this channel has shown me that if literally anything gets strange, either put my foot down and leave, or stay so I have a story to share for this channel.
I myself aim to be a GM (I plan on playing/running 2e Pathfinder instead of 5e DnD) like the OP of the first story; I'm also pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of a furry; I mean, I like women with pubic hair, but not hair all over their bodies, or animalian features beyond possible claws/talons for finger/toe nails and sharp teeth (the Inklings and Octolings of the Splatoon franchise are the MOST animalian looking people I find attractive.
@@RemnantSoul I feel you; the 2e Pathfinder Core Rulebook's game mastery chapter states VERY plainly that the role of GM ISN'T a role of dictatorship on its VERY FIRST page, and the Game mastery Guide EMPHASIZES that by stating VERY plainly that as GM, while you control a LOT, you don't control EVERYTHING; ESPECIALLY not the other players and their characters on the VERY FIRST post table of contents page. I don't understand why so many people FAIL to see and understand that when it's so IMMEDIATELY stated THAT PLAINLY.
Hopefully the other players can bear with it. If not, it would eventually become unbearable, and you could risk meeting a grizzly outcome when they throw you out with their bear hands. Because then they would bearly have any fun. Just something to bear in mind.
I’m a furry myself and I find those two DMs so annoying. It’s for crap like that the reason people hating on us and it makes me mad when people pull stunts like this.
@@sspectre8217 This sounds more like a zoophile, than a furry. I mean, was the she-bear sapient, or was he trying to force the player into mounting a regular bear?
@@Nyrufa you’re right on that, yes. It’s just that many people assume furries are zoophiles hence why stuff like this is problematic for furries particularly
The worst sin committed by the first DM is trying to control/change a player's character. A DM can alter backstory if it's not appropriate to the campaign world or starting level, but they cannot dictate how to run a character or what any character does without some sort of legitimate effect, like magic being involved. That is what makes this DM a particularly horrible one.
Exactly! A DM can say, "Sorry, but that particular bit doesn't work in my world. I'd tell you why, but spoilers. Do you WANT a suggestion? At least I can give you some broad hints, so you're not floundering." A DM can say, "I've seen what the other players have, and this party really needs someone to fill X role. There are lots of options for that. Anything strike your fancy?" A DM can say, "So, we're doing a game that is focused on X, Y, and Z, so bear that in mind, while preparing your characters." A DM can say, "Knowing what's coming, this party will require specifically a cleric, at least one alternate healer, at least one arcane spell caster, at least one sneaky type, and at least one physical damage dealer. Work that out amongst yourselves, please." A DM can say, "You all come from the area of A, and met at B location, for the purpose of C. A has X amount of diversity in the Y-Z range. Take if from there." A DM can say, "Stick to the Player Handbook, and this/these other sources." A DM can say, "We're home-brewing everything, but I get final say on all home-brews, because I need to make sure it fits my world. Also, here are print-offs of the home-brew rules I already have, along with notes of the sort of home-brew direction I'm planning to take us." A DM can NOT say, "No, I don't like your character. I want your character to be THIS. So, your character is THIS. So there. Shut up and eat it." Well, they can say it, but they'll lose their players. And regardless of what type of sex fantasy it is, even if it's absolutely vanilla, you NEVER put your sex fantasies on the gaming table without PREVIOUS consent from ALL people present. That is absolutely disgusting. It's a verbal form of sexual assault.
Story 1: This may be me being a MM nerd but Werebears are great for the cleric as they are one of the few Good types of lycanthropes and having them be caring and good fits with being a selune cleric and Werebears can control their instincts and Edge is a total tool. Story 2: communication, communication, communication
I may have done this cardinal sin of writing a player's backstory for them, but I at least asked them about it before I did it. Long story short, it was my first time as GM, and one of my player's said that he was interested in being a "rebel noble". Something clicked in my brain, and I DMed my player and asked them "do you want to be the ULTIMATE rebel Noble?" They said that they were interested, and I informed them of a twist NPC that was going to be revealed as the estranged runaway sister of the campaign's BBEG, a member of the Infernal House Thrune from Pathfinder. The estranged sister was a CG woman, living a commoner's life as a waitress in a coffeehouse that she inadvertently turned into a cat cafe by taking in local strays. She ran away from her LE, Asmodeus worshipping family when she was 10. She was meant to be a major ally, but I offered my player the chance to play as her since they were trying to figure out a character concept for themselves. My player accepted the offer, and outside me sharing a few character notes for her pre-established backstory (this character was from one of Paizo's APs, some of this information was set in stone already before I even started the campaign) I let my player run through the campaign as they saw fit. It made for some interesting moments, and everybody had a good time in the end. Especially since this turned into one of the few campaigns that our group actually wound up finishing.
The closest I've come to 'rewriting' a character's backstory was my brother's Dragonborn Warlock. During the session zero, when I asked for backstories, this brother mentioned, apart from the time he'd woken in the care of the temple of Bahamut, he had amnesia, and wanted me to decide his past. I straight-face asked him if he was prepared to give me that kind of power. And that's how my brother's Warlock became the true-polymorphed progeny of Ashardalon.
Me dming last night Me: okay let hear about your characters Tommy: I'm a changeling trickery cleric Tiff: I'm his brother the storm barbarian Hana: I'm a dampir goliath with claw hands Tyler: I'm an artificer bounty hunter with my adopted goblin son Mason: I'm an astral monk who uses poses to make my spirit fight ... Me: so ... Loki thor lady demitesqu the mandalorian and joestar... Oh this is going to be fun
@@ethanj61 now that I think of it, sorta, actually. In the game, I climbed out of the chimney of a penthouse apartment, into another of the same type, and looted it, getting a demon summoning rune and some gold. I split the gold with the rest of the party, so…
... Liking anthros isn't inherently a kink. Stop being a cunt to people who like more character options than a shade of bread/toast, one of six eye colors, and one of eight hair colors. Humans and humanoids are kinda asteticaly boring. Some of us like more options. Animal features is a valid choice for adding to character appearances, as are robotic parts, alien bits, just... come on dude. Not all of us want to fuck Minirva Mink just because she's got fur... And sure a lot do, but most of you scifi nerds wanna bang Twi-leks, and most fantasy fans want to fuck deamons and dragons, so kindly fuck off with your hypocritical crap.
Me: what’s Bishonen? Give me a sec...(typing)....”bishonen (uncountable) An Asian aesthetic of young men whose beauty (and sex appeal) transcends the boundary of gender or sexual orientation, found in manga, etc.”....oh I can already see how this gonna go south.
The second story wasn't so bad, or at least it could have been a lot worse. Naked zootopia as a setting is weird at first, and I'm saying that as a furry myself, but if you explain that the people don't sexualize being nude and it's simply that, as they all have fur pelts, they don't need clothes to keep them warm or protect them from the elements, it becomes a mere cultural quirk and you move on. That said, I get the feeling that there was more going on than OP explicitly detailed.
exactly my thoughts. I guess the players might have thought that the gm was planing on a lot more sexual content there and for that they spoke up. I feel kind of bad for the gm in this game - the way she reacted by shutting down the server might indicate that she did not plan to "lure" someone in furry game and she more never thought about her world could be an issue for others. i guess she was open to be a furry in session zero - so i as a player would have expected something in that direction
I, even as an old school AD&D guy wouldn't care about such things. Hell, one of my favorite NPCs is of an animal race. Lizard folk to be exact. Also, I have come across younger players who wanted to convert a "Thunder Cat" into a character. Cool, I can roll with that. I created a story line were,as a kitten, they stumbled into a portal that was created by a wizard on my world to explore other versions of the Prime Material plain. Imagine the comedic effect of the all powerful wizard finding a Thunder Cat kitten is who has been raiding his food stores for months.
There are those of us (especially those of us here in the comments) who don't do this Bs and are trying to find a group/make one. It's one thing I don't like about some of the channels that just read horror stories-and why I like the mix that All Things DnD has-because it can make you feel like the hobby is pointless, and full of nothing but toxic people. :/
@@Crisjola yeah, I am glad he shares the positive ones too. I think my favorite is the two-parter about the character who adopted and raised a black dragon hatchling as his own daughter.
A dm tried to do that with my Druid backstory as well with orcs because they killed my parents the problems were one The dryads who raised me killed them all, two my character was only five months old so she doesn’t have a memories of her parents, and three she had visited both her parents and the orcs graves already and had made her peace with them. The dm also hated my character because she was a nudist but that’s a story for another time.
@@Darkjonny79 ok so to cut a long story short my female Druid was suppose to be aloud to walk naked in her own town as the people got use to it Session 0 no problem we where in the woods and my character was her nude self. But when we got to the gate the female (this becomes important later) says the guard stops me trying to arrest me for public nudity I asked if he was from another town she said no I asked if he was new? She said no that he’s known you for years. I asked her if this is the town I live in and she said yes and that she didn’t like my character being a nudist so she removed it from my backstory and said the two other women agreed. I asked them and they said they didn’t mind we’ll we started to argue to the point I left later one of the girls texted me and said the dm did the same thing to anyone who’s backstory she didn’t like. She was a bitch. So that was that plus the whole trying to make my character to hate orcs thing. But if you want to know her backstory just ask.
The prompt, probably: "OwO *nuzzles bulge* What dis?!" The response, probably: *rolls initiative* After watching the video... I'd say my guess was close enough.
My friend got his dad to run a game for us as he'd been into it for years. In the session, all our characters were mass raped by hord of goblins...... we didn't play with him again.
but alignment doesn't even affect protection from evil and good "Until the spell ends, one willing creature you touch is protected against certain types of creatures: aberrations, celestials, elementals, fey, fiends, and undead. The protection grants several benefits. Creatures of those types have disadvantage on attack rolls against the target. The target also can’t be charmed, frightened, or possessed by them. If the target is already charmed, frightened, or possessed by such a creature, the target has advantage on any new saving throw against the relevant effect."
The minute someone tries to tell ME about MY CHARACTER'S BACKSTORY is the minute I get up and leave. Railroading from the start, bound to be a dumpster fire...
I’m so fucking glad that this video is just a very honest experience from a veteran DnD player and not some campaign against furries. I’m currently in the middle of my very first DnD campaign ever (Dragon of Icespire Peak if anyone is curious. ;D) And everyone in the group is a freaking Furry. And you know what? ITS REALLY REALLY FUN. We rescued a Fortune Teller. Got a homebase. Watch the Barbarian get chased around by Anime Boobs. Befriended a Gnoll and named him Grawr. And I’m juggling as the Team’s Translator, Private Eye, and Undertaker. It’s great.
You know how it's possible to see silhouettes in your vision from staring at a defined shape in an image long enough? I've been staring at the PC in the video before they transform, and I see his silhouette inside of the bear transformation as one of these left over images in my eyes. Thought that was pretty cool
Fellow furry here, both of those DMs are pretty cringe for sure. I don't get it, why not just go for other furries in your game instead? Why bring non-furs into it?
I haven't seen the video yet, just wanted to go Into the comments to see if the furry community is being attacked just because of this one guy Good thing it isn't
Listening to the first story made me think one thing Dms can control everything but the players if they disagree with what they do they can put a stop to it but they can not force a player to do things they do not want to like edge was trying to do with the female bear
I love puns, so I think the OP in story 1 was great. Except, he should have said, "NO. That's NOT how you play D&D. The DM has NO RIGHT to FORCE his own wishes onto the player characters. STOP IT, or I WON'T PLAY WITH YOU. NO D&D is better than BAD D&D, and you pushing YOUR character desires on MY PC is WRONG. Flat out WRONG. Stop it! I will NOT be a blood hunter. I will NOT be an edge lord. You can play all the edge you want, but I will NOT. If you want an edge lord character in the game, make your own DMPC and have him be as edgy as you want. Now, let me create my character as *I* see fit, or lose a player. The choice is yours. What will it be?" And if he insists on edge, you walk away. Then, you'd have that much more free time to get yourself together, and you could form a new group with other people who respect each other.
I will say... Selune is also a goddess of 'good lycanthropes', in classic Fae'run... Lycanthropes are tied to their racial alignments... ~unless~ they worship Selune (CG) or Malar (CE).
@@Leostar-Regalius Yeah... you could be a 'good lycanthrope' from reverence and worship of Selune if you were evil like a Werewolf by type, or evil if you worshiped Malar if you were good like a Werebear by type.... It was just a thing.
THIS RAILROADING KINKED OUT PEICE BEAR SHRAK! The things a player can put up with tch. **Yirbel Lives** most of the time dms WANT to avoid the tragic backstory.
having played in maybe......6 different groups? ive never had an experience close to these. That first one was madness, having a DM declaring how the players behave is basically them playing with themself, its like D&D solitare. Granted ive only ever played with long time friends but after hearing what rando internet games are like It doesnt sound like ive missed out.
The biggest "no no" a DM can do: Force a PC to behave or even have thoughts/feeling about something disregarding what the PLAYER wants for the character they made. You DON'T have ANY control over how a PC feels, acts, thinks, whatever. You can say what a curse or spell or affliction is doing to them, but thats it. If you want characters to do what you want instead of what the players want, WRITE A BOOK, you're not DM material when you try to force bs like this on people. Your fetish does not matter. Your IRL pronouns do not matter. Your politics do not matter. Your ability to help make a FUN and INTERESTING campaign for your PLAYERS is what matters. They are there to have fun. They are not there to satisfy your fantasy for your amusement. Absolutely abhor those delusional types of people.
there are the same people gatekeeping Gygaxs kid. I find it hilarious that they think hes "problematic" I was the outcast nerd and the D&D types took everyone in the 80s and 90s. the motto always was never say never.
As a furry myself both these stories were really cringe...both of course forced things onto players that they weren't comfortable with which is NOT okay in any form. The first story almost even stepped out of the lines for furries and into beastiality with the desire of wanting to have sex with another bear...which is definitely not okay and steps outside of the furry boundaries. The second story was more inline with the NPCs being humanoid but was now introducing a different kink, hypersexualization. Which, some furries aren't sexual at all and actually have only SFW and just adorable pieces of art without any sexual undertone. But to any DM: stop forcing things into games that characters aren't comfortable with...period.
Guiding rule for me as a DM, that I also specify to my players, is that while I control my world and it's relevant aspects, they control their characters. I work with players to built a well integrated backstory and to flesh out family of that character though I do limit any connections to nobility, royalty, or deities unless there is good story for it.(can't all be lords, ladies, princes, demigods, and whatnot) I don't pick favorites on the cases where there is such connections. The consequences always follow accordingly. However, as to what a character does or doesn't like, their goals, their quirks... That is all on the player as that makes the best story and as I have said in other posts, the story dictates.
I just made a Contry in my campaign where the beast folk live sans Kobolds and Dragonborn. Humans, Halfings, and Gnomes have their own as well, same for elves, goliaths, orcs, and dwarves. You know to allow for a wider array of PCs.
Ugh, I had made a half dragon natural attack fighter once and the DM spent the first three sessions saying subtle things that suggested she was becoming a cannibal, me and all the other players told him no and to stop it.
...to be honest, there are a few games that literally try to stamp down anyone who tries to experiment - for example, in the latest Elder Scrolls games the game boosts the enemies to counteract your level - but the problem is that you get levels by pumping ANY skill. So if your character is a diplomancer and pickpocketing expert (100 in both) he'll enter a tomb and face a Draugr that could eat dragons for breakfast, same as a maxed up stealth/archery character; problem is, the stealth archer can pepper the draugr with arrows and not get hit once, while the diplomancer will get torn to shreds.
Computer games also don't have biases and ban list to name another benefit. But they are only good as the programming which still leaves some limitations and questionable options. I prefer DMs who don't make the game about themselves, a rare trait these days.
@@craigtucker1290 ...I don't. If I make a game about myself, the players won't be happy - and if the players aren't happy, what the hell am I doing behind the screen? Being a good GM is about the others first, and you second. Mind you, there's a little stunt I ALWAYS use - a signature magic item that I have the players find. Nothing big, nothing powerful. But it's useful.
@@alarkhar I wasn't responding to your comment, to be honest. Making the players happy is not always a good trait either as that can lead to mollycoddling or giving them a win they didn't deserve invalidating their accomplishments. That type of story gets featured on this channel frequently as well. I have always run the game as an impartial and fair arbiter of the game as it was intended to be played without bias. That also means I don't spare the players from lethal results or fudge dice rolls.
@@craigtucker1290 Agreed on that. When I said "making them happy" I meant "giving them a good game". Mollycoddling players MIGHT seem like a way to make them happy, but in the long run it only makes them bored and apathetic.
My friends and I just started Dnd and our Dm/non of us know like the basics we don’t have the books or anything we basically just know the basics so everything we have is completely home brew everything and it’s dope! He’s been learning as we go and balancing as we go as well our next session will have actual combat that is combat not just I do this and roll for it
@@lordyeetusthewise931 pretty much what’s happening with us it’s our own dnd we’re doing two campaigns at once atm since our one friend is all over the place with wether or not he can join so we made secondary players so we can keep going on and basically do a side story (it’s also a way we can get attached to characters incase our main ones die, our secondary characters consisted of three paladins (we called ourselves the church) which consisted of a gnome a dwarf and turtle man (can’t remember the actual name) it ended with our turtle sacrificing himself in a suicide explosion to save our lives as he through us out of a castle so he’s making a third character atm while myself and the dwarf are heading off to make my gnome a mech (shits going off the rails and it’s not your tradition mech it’s still very much based in fantasy)
As a DM, it is your job to inform me of my surroundings. As a player, it is my job to PLAY my character. You do not dictate what my character does. Period.
The furry one: They could have just have a furry kingdom and other kingdoms, the group journeys around, some furry characters reappear ect....like god damn: The f was that DMs issue? Also not everyone with charisma uses flirt.
yeah, I haven't had the really kinky weird shit thrown at me yet, but I cannot count the number of times, someone has promised one thing and delivered something entirely different.
The second the DM said "Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic" I would have walked away. That's a enough cringe to kill 5 blue whales and level half a first world country.
My little human druid was revealed to be a were-raven by the DM, but I'd given her a Mysterious Past (found on the doorstep of a couple on the edge of a village, has strange visions and the ability to speak to spirits and animals...) and I was basically inviting the DM to fill the blanks in about her true origins. The DM gave me this ON TOP of Lamb's personality and abilities, not INSTEAD of them, and always respected her asexuality. Being able to fly and cast spells was pretty sweet. Shame I only got this late enough in the game that the immunity to non-magical non-silvered weapons didn't come into play, but to be fair that would have been SUPER over-powered.
I remember joining a game and the DM started a backstory one on one session to set my character up. Originally I intended to play a spoiled, artisocratice male warlock with some weight on him, that made a bargain with a different eldritch god to escape his current coven that intended to sacrifice him. The DM got the gist, but for some reason, always referred to my character as she/her (I'm a woman irl, but wanted to play a male character.) I shrugged it off and decided to just go with it and swap the character's gender to female. The DM proceed to tell me in my intro session that I appeared in a dream-like fog, walking around a chamber hall. Torches line the ritual room and cloaked figures appeared to be preforming a sacrificial ritual. Upon closer look, my character discovered the sacrifice was myself, drugged and stripped naked. My character proceeded to witness her own rape and murder before everything faded to black. Upon waking, I was suddenly playing in the body of a little girl, freshly woven into existence by an old crone. All my memories intact. After the set-up was done, I talked frankly with the DM that, while was fantastic at setting up the scene, but I didn't really appreciate the radical change to my character, and the way in which he made it happen. His response still makes my blood run cold; "I was just building up what you were suggesting in the way you responded. Sorry." I feel like I could have designed the most brutish, hyper-masculine character I could think of, and he would have changed my character's gender and rapidly forced my character into being raped for some backstory. This is one of the reasons why I hate playing female characers in dnd.
Im a furry, i play D&D, never once have i elicited anything suggestive towards any in-game character for how they look, or expressed any romantic affections or affiliations of any kind to anyone, even when two tabaxi showed up and got suggestive with my character, he would always bring up his dead wife and they would run off xD I do however, always play the beast races :P dragonborn, tabaxi, arracokra, kobold, kenku, i love aaaaall of them, they always bring interesting niches to how they play, like how my arracokra bard swings around a giant hammer in the form of a modified lute with his clawed feet, so i RP in combat that as he swings he flaps his wings to get some height as he jumps on the spot so he can do a front flip above an enemies head before crashing down on them with the hammers inertia, or how my sorcerer kenku cant speak (as most kenku dont) so he communicates by using his storm mage powers to manipulate the granules in a hand-held bowl of dirty water to spell out symbols and letters that the party interprets as words for them to understand. Getting creative with a character instead of trying to live out your annoying incel fantasies, especially if you are a furry, is how you can really bring out the best of that character, use their biology to give them flavour in RP, instead of using them to bang stuff :D
1.) A Poor Start // Edge.... said he would give us all an extra boon.....my Half-Elf Cleric of Selune, could turn into a Werebear. Already this is a bit out of line to be dictating such an important aspect of someone else's character. If you're giving a "*boon*," the player should be choosing from a list unless they already agreed to be given a pre-generated character. 2.) Yikes // My Half-Elf Cleric was male, but a bishonen who had an upbeat and supportive personality, at least that's how I envisioned him. He grew up in an orphanage and the caretaker was essentially my surrogate mother. // // Edge began pushing the Blood Hunter class on me.... // // .......telling me how my father had abandoned me after my mother was brutally killed by vampires..... // // .......and how it filled me with a fanatical hatred of vampires..... // // .......and how bitter and vengeful my character was. // // .......he watned to make my character as hyper masculine as possible......... So many things wrong at this point, OP should have been out the door. Of course we wouldn't have an RPG horror story if people all had good boundaries.
I want to clarify something: I am not a furry. I do however know quite a few and through them I've seen a LOT of artwork. The second story makes it sound like ALL furry art is the same and I assure you, that couldn't be further from the truth. There are countless style choices and types. Also, despite what most of the internet seems to think, it's not all nudes, porn and sexy times. In-fact, that only a small portion of the greater community. Stay strong my furry friends!
I'm stuck as a Bear now? Okay. So, what's my line? "I hate all things vampire, and I will avenge my lost parents whether it cost me body or soul!" Okay. "Rgt arrngs vrrngrh, rhn yrrl grrreemmh mrrffrrrsh err rrft mmh grrshrrl!"
10:30 Clarify: Being a furry isn't a fetish. Some Furries for example just like the community, the art or simply some movies like Zootopia, the Robin Hood where he's a Fox, etc. It's like saying liking cars is a fetish. Of course there are people who feel sexually attracted to cars but just because you like cars doesnt mean its anything sexual. It's basically just a stereotype. Furry Stereotypes that are not always the case: Gay(alot are but not all) Furry is a Fetish (No, but its a part of the fandom) Furry Stereotypes that are true: Cringe(We embrace it and laugh about it ourselves) We spend alot of money for furry stuff (i myself paid 200$ on the character in my pfp alone for example) Thanks for reading and have a nice day ^w^
Yet another example of the group forgetting that Protection from Evil and from Good does not affect creatures based on Alignment, but instead affects creatures based on their types. In 5e, that's just how the spell runs. In 3.5, it was alignment-based, but this whole video is prefaced with these stories being in 5e.
Man I always feel bad when I hear stories like this cause of the fifty some furrys I'm friends/acquainted with they're all such nice people yet all you ever hear about are the bad ones, part of me wonder shy we love only bringing up the worst of experiences but then i recall its really hard to make a compelling tale out of 'everyone got along and had fun. The End.
People tend to remember really bad games more then average or good-ish games. And that's natural, remembering bad experiences is part of how we learn. I guess it's just remembering that for every terrible game there's probably eight average games and one really great one.
AMEN!! MY daughter is a furry. As I stated in a different comment thread, she would not ever act like that, nor attempt to push her own preference onto someone else.
Me to second DM. If you had told us this was a furry verse I would have made a character appropriate for it. Let me know what the setting rules are so I can make a new character. And BTW, having all the NPCs drop sexual innuendos constantly just makes you a 'creepy Mc Stalker' so be aware you might be boycotted for that behavior.
First transformation "A furious bloodthirsty rage overtook me" Werebears have a NG Alignment there should be no rage. I can tell why they called the DM Edge. Also is it just me or does the island on the right look like a stegosaurus?
I can't say I ever understood the whole "Tried to kill my character" thing, like you're the DM you can just say "oh man, this thing Nat 20'd you 3 times in a row, that's crazy!". Of course some people don't want to make it obvious, but when you're trying to force sexual fantasies on your players I think you're already too far gone.
I never understood DMing or playing your fetishes in DnD. Unless everyone is into it and/or okay with roleplaying it you are going to make someone uncomfortable, that's kinda how fetishes are. Even as a furry I may put an element of it into my character, like say a wolf shaman in Shadowrun, but I'm never gonna push it as a fetish as while it may be a thing I'm into I'm nervous and uncomfortable about acting it out in front of people, and most people would be uncomfortable with me acting it out in front of them. And maybe this limits my ability just a little bit, I'm willing to accept that there are things I can get better at, and maybe I'll be able to one day better read the room and scale in and out elements that I'm not comfortable with for genuine roleplay reasons for other people. Until then though, I'm really going to avoid things I'm not comfortable with putting in a game, and should a player/DM tell me that there is something I'm doing they aren't comfortable with I'm likely to rearrange my character as needed to remove it entirely.
Immediate problem detected... lack of session zero where players talk to dm and work together to create the story, and to do that the dm needs to know and accept your character
Out of my whole time of playing D&D I have only run into one really bad furry player who did some really bad stuff. The rest have been completely normal people who just happen to want to play some kind of animal character and take the game serious with no kink stuff. But man the amount of non-furry people I have run into who do worse things than this is baffling to me. I always make sure to try and figure out how a dm runs stuff or what players what from their game ahead of time. It is more important to check and test the waters when going into a new group.
Even as a furry myself, I don't condone the things this DM has done, I would instead prefer a group that I could settle in with, or I'd rather play to the rulings of the GM. Outside of those kind of campaigns, I typically choose a halfling druid small enough to write a dog without any penalties. You can still get creative with things outside of your comfort zone. And oh dear god the fetish pushing...
I don't get what's with the DM. Just make your listing say "I'm looking for players who are up for the following: Edgy dark backstories, detailed sex scenes between D&D races, etc". and like... just explain to the potential players you're wanting to run a furry smut thing or whatever. Is it a bit weird? Yeah, probably. But you'll get much more in-tune players if you make it clear what you're looking for. It's all fantasy anyway, so the actual issues of it being non-human can be pushed aside as long as everyone involved is on the same page about it.
Look both DMs / GMs and their players need to make it clear when they are uncomfortable about something and the others need to be receptive and accepting of that. Though I will admit I don’t understand why the beast tribes wouldn’t at least wear loincloths or something similar.
I did this, I talked to my player about his PC might be pushed to multiclass into something, but only if he was willing to accept it (otherwise I would just change the plot); He liked the idea, but he didn't want to know what he would multiclass. Right now he's playing a paladin, but in about 3 sessions he may be playing a Hexadin with a Lawful Good alignment sentient weapon as a patron. The fucking weapon itself is a fucking nuke it can do like 30d20 of radiant damage to hostile creatures on a radio of a whole city, but at the cost of his PC life (Which personally I don't like that kind of stuff, but my player does and make his PC around the whole concept of self-sacrifice or somehow end as a hero if he doesn't die halfway, if he wants to sacrifice his PC I would make sure it will be one of the most epic sacrifice ever seen for my player).
When I read "furry DM" in the title i knew it was gonna be a cringy DM, and then remembered i am myself a furry DM, and that everyone loves my dm'ing and don't care i'm a furry. Maybe it's just this DM from the video idk
I don’t get DMs that punish and have grudges, the point is being impartial. The fun part for be is being impartial, I’m just the calculating machine with a slight bias toward my players fun 🤷♂️ Even if I’m annoyed at you I’m not gonna get you through the game like a child
Protection From Evil And Good has nothing to do with the fact, that the enemies are neutral. The spell works on certain types of creatures. These are the things why I think some this cringe stories are fabrications. If you do not know how your spell works, that is a little sus.
@@RAClaus3 I do not know, if you have a story of evil fay on an Island, without any fay, it is an effort. But even then, the next paragraph, is about the boss that is a fey/celestial/Undead combo. All three of that thing is effected by Protection From Evil And Good. The player knows what was the type of the monster. Undead is the most easier type of thing to identified, without meta knowledge. Some GMs can be idiots, but saying that your magic is not working on intended targets, is a rare thing, outside of sus stories. These are the game facts of common knowledge, like saves, and how fireball works. I still think it is a little sus. Maybe the player was the most unsure, confrontation avoiding personality. Maybe the GM just lied of the nature of the enemies, (What is super hard in this case). I saw issues with Protection From Evil And Good with undercover demons, where the GM overlooked, but not with fey/celestial/Undead boss. This is like if in some story someone would say, "So I casted Turn Undead, to mingle in the Undead Hoard, but the GM was mean, and required me to roll a deceive check". Yea it is mean, but the spell is not turning your character to undead! :D
@@Aegis482 Alright, a little more feedback, I am the OP of the story, so I will elaborate a little more. When we got to the island the DM had an NPC tell us that the evil fae were trying to sink the sky island. He even had a hag mock us from a distance. Naturally, knowing in character that our foes were fae, I prepared the spell. He then proceeded to not throw a single fae creature at us, they were either monstrosities or constructs, he even made the satyrs, monstrosities, instead of fae. Our Bard did the arcana check for the hybrid creature, and he smugly told us it was those three types combined while at the same time being none of them, so my protection from good and evil would be useless against it.
@@RAClaus3 In that case, I am sorry. The story was misrepresented in the video. By that it has all the red flags, to make is sus. It looks like someone really wanted to tell the Beast***ty story. Tis is why, I am very carful to play in custom worlds. Keep on playing D&D, and I wish less of these king of "strange" people.
If a DM wants to make a world inhabited mostly by animal-like races, that's fine, as long as they tell the players upfront and aren't weird about it. Could be an interesting campaign setting as long as it's not just the vessel for the DMs weird fetishs
I'm a bit confused by the second story. From the description my first thought of 'naked' was 'cartoon naked', you know, like Duck Tales, etc. How's that a fetish? Because 'furry' is about anthropomorphised animals and that's very vague of what ot entails. Unless there's much more of the story we aren't being told. But the DM should have been honest from the outset about what they go for. Some people might dig it, some might want more conventional fantasy.
Naturally, another story about a DM thinking they’re in charge of the characters when they’re really in charge of literally everything else.
Yeah, I think one thing i've heard goes wrong is that those DMs think that they have free rain over everything as the storyteller, when really they're the world builder.
I swear, this channel has shown me that if literally anything gets strange, either put my foot down and leave, or stay so I have a story to share for this channel.
I myself aim to be a GM (I plan on playing/running 2e Pathfinder instead of 5e DnD) like the OP of the first story; I'm also pretty much the exact OPPOSITE of a furry; I mean, I like women with pubic hair, but not hair all over their bodies, or animalian features beyond possible claws/talons for finger/toe nails and sharp teeth (the Inklings and Octolings of the Splatoon franchise are the MOST animalian looking people I find attractive.
As a DM myself...
I do NOT understand how or why so many DMs do this.
@@RemnantSoul I feel you; the 2e Pathfinder Core Rulebook's game mastery chapter states VERY plainly that the role of GM ISN'T a role of dictatorship on its VERY FIRST page, and the Game mastery Guide EMPHASIZES that by stating VERY plainly that as GM, while you control a LOT, you don't control EVERYTHING; ESPECIALLY not the other players and their characters on the VERY FIRST post table of contents page. I don't understand why so many people FAIL to see and understand that when it's so IMMEDIATELY stated THAT PLAINLY.
I just like the idea of a werebear that constantly drops bear puns during combat.
I would make a ranger and play him like Little John from Disney's Robin Hood.
@@CharlesGriswold That sounds brilliant.
In fact, Disney's Robin Hood is basically just a DnD campaign.
Hopefully the other players can bear with it. If not, it would eventually become unbearable, and you could risk meeting a grizzly outcome when they throw you out with their bear hands. Because then they would bearly have any fun.
Just something to bear in mind.
Unbrearable.
Thatone nlstalgia critic video
If Location Location Location is how you get the money, then Communication Communication Communication is how you get a good experience
Are you my cousin?
Never, ever ever force your preferences (or fantasies, as the case may be) on your players. Take the hint: No means No.
I’m a furry myself and I find those two DMs so annoying. It’s for crap like that the reason people hating on us and it makes me mad when people pull stunts like this.
@@sspectre8217 This sounds more like a zoophile, than a furry. I mean, was the she-bear sapient, or was he trying to force the player into mounting a regular bear?
@@Nyrufa you’re right on that, yes. It’s just that many people assume furries are zoophiles hence why stuff like this is problematic for furries particularly
exactly, if I DM a game and allow furry races, I won't do any of that railroading bs
Dont be a furry. Step one. If you are one you're disgusting and shouldn't own pets or animals
The worst sin committed by the first DM is trying to control/change a player's character. A DM can alter backstory if it's not appropriate to the campaign world or starting level, but they cannot dictate how to run a character or what any character does without some sort of legitimate effect, like magic being involved. That is what makes this DM a particularly horrible one.
I disagree. The worst sin was them being a furry.
Exactly! A DM can say, "Sorry, but that particular bit doesn't work in my world. I'd tell you why, but spoilers. Do you WANT a suggestion? At least I can give you some broad hints, so you're not floundering." A DM can say, "I've seen what the other players have, and this party really needs someone to fill X role. There are lots of options for that. Anything strike your fancy?" A DM can say, "So, we're doing a game that is focused on X, Y, and Z, so bear that in mind, while preparing your characters." A DM can say, "Knowing what's coming, this party will require specifically a cleric, at least one alternate healer, at least one arcane spell caster, at least one sneaky type, and at least one physical damage dealer. Work that out amongst yourselves, please." A DM can say, "You all come from the area of A, and met at B location, for the purpose of C. A has X amount of diversity in the Y-Z range. Take if from there." A DM can say, "Stick to the Player Handbook, and this/these other sources." A DM can say, "We're home-brewing everything, but I get final say on all home-brews, because I need to make sure it fits my world. Also, here are print-offs of the home-brew rules I already have, along with notes of the sort of home-brew direction I'm planning to take us."
A DM can NOT say, "No, I don't like your character. I want your character to be THIS. So, your character is THIS. So there. Shut up and eat it." Well, they can say it, but they'll lose their players.
And regardless of what type of sex fantasy it is, even if it's absolutely vanilla, you NEVER put your sex fantasies on the gaming table without PREVIOUS consent from ALL people present. That is absolutely disgusting. It's a verbal form of sexual assault.
Agree
A bear having instincts in bear form makes sense. Just like werewolf wants to murder everything. Make a willpower save and move on.
Story 1: This may be me being a MM nerd but Werebears are great for the cleric as they are one of the few Good types of lycanthropes and having them be caring and good fits with being a selune cleric and Werebears can control their instincts and Edge is a total tool.
Story 2: communication, communication, communication
I may have done this cardinal sin of writing a player's backstory for them, but I at least asked them about it before I did it. Long story short, it was my first time as GM, and one of my player's said that he was interested in being a "rebel noble". Something clicked in my brain, and I DMed my player and asked them "do you want to be the ULTIMATE rebel Noble?"
They said that they were interested, and I informed them of a twist NPC that was going to be revealed as the estranged runaway sister of the campaign's BBEG, a member of the Infernal House Thrune from Pathfinder. The estranged sister was a CG woman, living a commoner's life as a waitress in a coffeehouse that she inadvertently turned into a cat cafe by taking in local strays. She ran away from her LE, Asmodeus worshipping family when she was 10. She was meant to be a major ally, but I offered my player the chance to play as her since they were trying to figure out a character concept for themselves.
My player accepted the offer, and outside me sharing a few character notes for her pre-established backstory (this character was from one of Paizo's APs, some of this information was set in stone already before I even started the campaign) I let my player run through the campaign as they saw fit. It made for some interesting moments, and everybody had a good time in the end. Especially since this turned into one of the few campaigns that our group actually wound up finishing.
As long as they were cool with it and you didn't tell them how to play their character, it sounds fine 👍
I honestly love this since you asked first
Yeah that's like. Totally fine.
If you just, approach them with suggestions. And give them ways to tie into the world. It's totally acceptable!
The closest I've come to 'rewriting' a character's backstory was my brother's Dragonborn Warlock. During the session zero, when I asked for backstories, this brother mentioned, apart from the time he'd woken in the care of the temple of Bahamut, he had amnesia, and wanted me to decide his past. I straight-face asked him if he was prepared to give me that kind of power.
And that's how my brother's Warlock became the true-polymorphed progeny of Ashardalon.
Funny story I had a friend who would draw the character but forget his back story,name and class bc he took more time designing his character.
Me dming last night
Me: okay let hear about your characters
Tommy: I'm a changeling trickery cleric
Tiff: I'm his brother the storm barbarian
Hana: I'm a dampir goliath with claw hands
Tyler: I'm an artificer bounty hunter with my adopted goblin son
Mason: I'm an astral monk who uses poses to make my spirit fight
...
Me: so ... Loki thor lady demitesqu the mandalorian and joestar... Oh this is going to be fun
Ah, I am a wood elf chaotic good rouge. Any character that matches that
@@stargazer1998 if it is I can't think of it,who ate you playing as
@@troperhghar9898 no one in particular, I wanted to see if you could think of a character like mine
Robin hood
@@ethanj61 now that I think of it, sorta, actually. In the game, I climbed out of the chimney of a penthouse apartment, into another of the same type, and looted it, getting a demon summoning rune and some gold. I split the gold with the rest of the party, so…
Okay, everyone has their kinks... But these DM's are clueless, entitled and really, really crazy.
indeed... as a DM myself i will only ever expose my players to kinks if i think its funny...
We don't accept DM's like this, or even players
Kink shaming is okay. Furries especially. They're disgusting
... Liking anthros isn't inherently a kink. Stop being a cunt to people who like more character options than a shade of bread/toast, one of six eye colors, and one of eight hair colors. Humans and humanoids are kinda asteticaly boring. Some of us like more options. Animal features is a valid choice for adding to character appearances, as are robotic parts, alien bits, just... come on dude. Not all of us want to fuck Minirva Mink just because she's got fur... And sure a lot do, but most of you scifi nerds wanna bang Twi-leks, and most fantasy fans want to fuck deamons and dragons, so kindly fuck off with your hypocritical crap.
That's not a kink, that's a horrible crime, and the DM should have had his harddrive checked.
Me: what’s Bishonen? Give me a sec...(typing)....”bishonen (uncountable) An Asian aesthetic of young men whose beauty (and sex appeal) transcends the boundary of gender or sexual orientation, found in manga, etc.”....oh I can already see how this gonna go south.
Same here
*_DUDE LOOKS LIKE A LADY_*
4:57 -____________________- but a lycanthrope's true form is their humanoid form!
Glad to hear that First DM was able to get their life back together.
The werebear player did the right thing with the bear puns, and refusing to give in to the terrible DM's BS.
The second story wasn't so bad, or at least it could have been a lot worse. Naked zootopia as a setting is weird at first, and I'm saying that as a furry myself, but if you explain that the people don't sexualize being nude and it's simply that, as they all have fur pelts, they don't need clothes to keep them warm or protect them from the elements, it becomes a mere cultural quirk and you move on. That said, I get the feeling that there was more going on than OP explicitly detailed.
exactly my thoughts. I guess the players might have thought that the gm was planing on a lot more sexual content there and for that they spoke up. I feel kind of bad for the gm in this game - the way she reacted by shutting down the server might indicate that she did not plan to "lure" someone in furry game and she more never thought about her world could be an issue for others. i guess she was open to be a furry in session zero - so i as a player would have expected something in that direction
I, even as an old school AD&D guy wouldn't care about such things. Hell, one of my favorite NPCs is of an animal race. Lizard folk to be exact. Also, I have come across younger players who wanted to convert a "Thunder Cat" into a character. Cool, I can roll with that. I created a story line were,as a kitten, they stumbled into a portal that was created by a wizard on my world to explore other versions of the Prime Material plain. Imagine the comedic effect of the all powerful wizard finding a Thunder Cat kitten is who has been raiding his food stores for months.
This and 90% of all the other stories on here are the reason I don't go back to playing TTRPGs.
Genuinely thank you for the reminders 🙏
There are those of us (especially those of us here in the comments) who don't do this Bs and are trying to find a group/make one.
It's one thing I don't like about some of the channels that just read horror stories-and why I like the mix that All Things DnD has-because it can make you feel like the hobby is pointless, and full of nothing but toxic people. :/
@@Crisjola yeah, I am glad he shares the positive ones too. I think my favorite is the two-parter about the character who adopted and raised a black dragon hatchling as his own daughter.
I'm just going to say this and put this out there when you find the right group you'll want to play again I'm just saying that hate me all you want.
*landing the final blow at the end of a confrontation* "I guess they just couldn't BEAR the weight of my blow."
A dm tried to do that with my Druid backstory as well with orcs because they killed my parents the problems were one The dryads who raised me killed them all, two my character was only five months old so she doesn’t have a memories of her parents, and three she had visited both her parents and the orcs graves already and had made her peace with them. The dm also hated my character because she was a nudist but that’s a story for another time.
An all natural Druid does sound fun. Would love to hear that story at some point.
@@Darkjonny79 ok so to cut a long story short my female Druid was suppose to be aloud to walk naked in her own town as the people got use to it Session 0 no problem we where in the woods and my character was her nude self. But when we got to the gate the female (this becomes important later) says the guard stops me trying to arrest me for public nudity I asked if he was from another town she said no I asked if he was new? She said no that he’s known you for years. I asked her if this is the town I live in and she said yes and that she didn’t like my character being a nudist so she removed it from my backstory and said the two other women agreed. I asked them and they said they didn’t mind we’ll we started to argue to the point I left later one of the girls texted me and said the dm did the same thing to anyone who’s backstory she didn’t like. She was a bitch. So that was that plus the whole trying to make my character to hate orcs thing. But if you want to know her backstory just ask.
@@Rule-be6lw It does sound like a good backstory that got messed around with by the DM
@@Darkjonny79 it is unfortunately it’s late so I’ll tell you tomorrow.
My tortle druid is also a nudist, only wears a cape. My Dm didn't even question it because I'm a giant turtle lol.
The prompt, probably: "OwO *nuzzles bulge* What dis?!"
The response, probably: *rolls initiative*
After watching the video... I'd say my guess was close enough.
Barbarian rages and says:who the fuck are you!? how'd ye get in ma hoose? im gonnae phone the polis on ye ya pure mutant!
My friend got his dad to run a game for us as he'd been into it for years. In the session, all our characters were mass raped by hord of goblins...... we didn't play with him again.
That's it, I'm calling the Black Templars.
but alignment doesn't even affect protection from evil and good
"Until the spell ends, one willing creature you touch is protected against certain types of creatures: aberrations, celestials, elementals, fey, fiends, and undead.
The protection grants several benefits. Creatures of those types have disadvantage on attack rolls against the target. The target also can’t be charmed, frightened, or possessed by them. If the target is already charmed, frightened, or possessed by such a creature, the target has advantage on any new saving throw against the relevant effect."
The minute someone tries to tell ME about MY CHARACTER'S BACKSTORY is the minute I get up and leave. Railroading from the start, bound to be a dumpster fire...
Me upon reading the title: the invasion has begun 😨😨😨
His character was a Carebear........
Uncomfortable doesn't begin to cover this (starting at about 5:30).
I’m so fucking glad that this video is just a very honest experience from a veteran DnD player and not some campaign against furries. I’m currently in the middle of my very first DnD campaign ever (Dragon of Icespire Peak if anyone is curious. ;D) And everyone in the group is a freaking Furry. And you know what? ITS REALLY REALLY FUN.
We rescued a Fortune Teller.
Got a homebase.
Watch the Barbarian get chased around by Anime Boobs.
Befriended a Gnoll and named him Grawr.
And I’m juggling as the Team’s Translator, Private Eye, and Undertaker. It’s great.
You know how it's possible to see silhouettes in your vision from staring at a defined shape in an image long enough? I've been staring at the PC in the video before they transform, and I see his silhouette inside of the bear transformation as one of these left over images in my eyes. Thought that was pretty cool
As a representative of the furry community, the proper response to that DM is, “WTF”? We revoke his furry card 😂😂😂
Revoke & shred that card.
As a non furry I salute you sir
Fellow furry here, both of those DMs are pretty cringe for sure. I don't get it, why not just go for other furries in your game instead? Why bring non-furs into it?
I haven't seen the video yet, just wanted to go Into the comments to see if the furry community is being attacked just because of this one guy
Good thing it isn't
I know it’s weird that they couldn’t find other furries because there’s plenty of us playing DND.
Listening to the first story made me think one thing
Dms can control everything but the players if they disagree with what they do they can put a stop to it but they can not force a player to do things they do not want to like edge was trying to do with the female bear
I love puns, so I think the OP in story 1 was great. Except, he should have said, "NO. That's NOT how you play D&D. The DM has NO RIGHT to FORCE his own wishes onto the player characters. STOP IT, or I WON'T PLAY WITH YOU. NO D&D is better than BAD D&D, and you pushing YOUR character desires on MY PC is WRONG. Flat out WRONG. Stop it! I will NOT be a blood hunter. I will NOT be an edge lord. You can play all the edge you want, but I will NOT. If you want an edge lord character in the game, make your own DMPC and have him be as edgy as you want. Now, let me create my character as *I* see fit, or lose a player. The choice is yours. What will it be?" And if he insists on edge, you walk away.
Then, you'd have that much more free time to get yourself together, and you could form a new group with other people who respect each other.
I will say... Selune is also a goddess of 'good lycanthropes', in classic Fae'run... Lycanthropes are tied to their racial alignments... ~unless~ they worship Selune (CG) or Malar (CE).
wait, i only knew of the guy who was the first werewolf(i forget his name but i knew he was evil)
@@Leostar-Regalius Yeah... you could be a 'good lycanthrope' from reverence and worship of Selune if you were evil like a Werewolf by type, or evil if you worshiped Malar if you were good like a Werebear by type.... It was just a thing.
THIS RAILROADING KINKED OUT PEICE BEAR SHRAK! The things a player can put up with tch. **Yirbel Lives** most of the time dms WANT to avoid the tragic backstory.
You could say he was CLUELESS about where clueless went.
I'll see myself out 🚪
DMs like this need their rulebooks set on fire and dice thrown into a lava flow.
having played in maybe......6 different groups? ive never had an experience close to these. That first one was madness, having a DM declaring how the players behave is basically them playing with themself, its like D&D solitare. Granted ive only ever played with long time friends but after hearing what rando internet games are like It doesnt sound like ive missed out.
The biggest "no no" a DM can do: Force a PC to behave or even have thoughts/feeling about something disregarding what the PLAYER wants for the character they made.
You DON'T have ANY control over how a PC feels, acts, thinks, whatever. You can say what a curse or spell or affliction is doing to them, but thats it. If you want characters to do what you want instead of what the players want, WRITE A BOOK, you're not DM material when you try to force bs like this on people.
Your fetish does not matter. Your IRL pronouns do not matter. Your politics do not matter. Your ability to help make a FUN and INTERESTING campaign for your PLAYERS is what matters. They are there to have fun. They are not there to satisfy your fantasy for your amusement.
Absolutely abhor those delusional types of people.
That is not a fetish. What that DM had was a mental illness and should have had their hardrive checked.
Am I the only one who wants to go full "Black Templar" after hearing this?
be carefull the sons of Lemun Russ may hunt you down for killing their waifus
Ah the space wolves. THE UWU chapter of Warhammer.
I don't think the Space Wolves will mind some slaaneshi cultists dying.
DEUS VULT BROTHER
*FOR THE EMPEROR!!!*
there are the same people gatekeeping Gygaxs kid. I find it hilarious that they think hes "problematic" I was the outcast nerd and the D&D types took everyone in the 80s and 90s. the motto always was never say never.
...this is why gatekeeping is awesome. 🧐
Is it sad that I just now finished watching a meme of DM railroaders? And then the next thing I see is this.
DM: "Yiff."
Me: "... No."
As a furry myself both these stories were really cringe...both of course forced things onto players that they weren't comfortable with which is NOT okay in any form. The first story almost even stepped out of the lines for furries and into beastiality with the desire of wanting to have sex with another bear...which is definitely not okay and steps outside of the furry boundaries. The second story was more inline with the NPCs being humanoid but was now introducing a different kink, hypersexualization. Which, some furries aren't sexual at all and actually have only SFW and just adorable pieces of art without any sexual undertone. But to any DM: stop forcing things into games that characters aren't comfortable with...period.
Guiding rule for me as a DM, that I also specify to my players, is that while I control my world and it's relevant aspects, they control their characters. I work with players to built a well integrated backstory and to flesh out family of that character though I do limit any connections to nobility, royalty, or deities unless there is good story for it.(can't all be lords, ladies, princes, demigods, and whatnot) I don't pick favorites on the cases where there is such connections. The consequences always follow accordingly. However, as to what a character does or doesn't like, their goals, their quirks... That is all on the player as that makes the best story and as I have said in other posts, the story dictates.
I just made a Contry in my campaign where the beast folk live sans Kobolds and Dragonborn. Humans, Halfings, and Gnomes have their own as well, same for elves, goliaths, orcs, and dwarves.
You know to allow for a wider array of PCs.
Ugh, I had made a half dragon natural attack fighter once and the DM spent the first three sessions saying subtle things that suggested she was becoming a cannibal, me and all the other players told him no and to stop it.
Absolutely love your new intro.
One advantage of computer games over tabletops; computer games can't form grudges and single out a specific player for agro and such.
...to be honest, there are a few games that literally try to stamp down anyone who tries to experiment - for example, in the latest Elder Scrolls games the game boosts the enemies to counteract your level - but the problem is that you get levels by pumping ANY skill. So if your character is a diplomancer and pickpocketing expert (100 in both) he'll enter a tomb and face a Draugr that could eat dragons for breakfast, same as a maxed up stealth/archery character; problem is, the stealth archer can pepper the draugr with arrows and not get hit once, while the diplomancer will get torn to shreds.
Computer games also don't have biases and ban list to name another benefit. But they are only good as the programming which still leaves some limitations and questionable options. I prefer DMs who don't make the game about themselves, a rare trait these days.
@@craigtucker1290 ...I don't. If I make a game about myself, the players won't be happy - and if the players aren't happy, what the hell am I doing behind the screen? Being a good GM is about the others first, and you second.
Mind you, there's a little stunt I ALWAYS use - a signature magic item that I have the players find. Nothing big, nothing powerful. But it's useful.
@@alarkhar I wasn't responding to your comment, to be honest. Making the players happy is not always a good trait either as that can lead to mollycoddling or giving them a win they didn't deserve invalidating their accomplishments. That type of story gets featured on this channel frequently as well.
I have always run the game as an impartial and fair arbiter of the game as it was intended to be played without bias. That also means I don't spare the players from lethal results or fudge dice rolls.
@@craigtucker1290 Agreed on that. When I said "making them happy" I meant "giving them a good game". Mollycoddling players MIGHT seem like a way to make them happy, but in the long run it only makes them bored and apathetic.
My friends and I just started Dnd and our Dm/non of us know like the basics we don’t have the books or anything we basically just know the basics so everything we have is completely home brew everything and it’s dope! He’s been learning as we go and balancing as we go as well our next session will have actual combat that is combat not just I do this and roll for it
Lol my first DM didn't have a single rulebook for an entire year! Most hilarious year of play ever.
@@lordyeetusthewise931 pretty much what’s happening with us it’s our own dnd we’re doing two campaigns at once atm since our one friend is all over the place with wether or not he can join so we made secondary players so we can keep going on and basically do a side story (it’s also a way we can get attached to characters incase our main ones die, our secondary characters consisted of three paladins (we called ourselves the church) which consisted of a gnome a dwarf and turtle man (can’t remember the actual name) it ended with our turtle sacrificing himself in a suicide explosion to save our lives as he through us out of a castle so he’s making a third character atm while myself and the dwarf are heading off to make my gnome a mech (shits going off the rails and it’s not your tradition mech it’s still very much based in fantasy)
As a DM, it is your job to inform me of my surroundings. As a player, it is my job to PLAY my character. You do not dictate what my character does. Period.
As someone who considers themselves a furry (well rather a scalie instead) I hate these kinda people.
Me to
These kinds of people exist in pretty much every fandom, furry or not. We ALL hate these kinds of people.
The furry one: They could have just have a furry kingdom and other kingdoms, the group journeys around, some furry characters reappear ect....like god damn: The f was that DMs issue?
Also not everyone with charisma uses flirt.
dude, your the DM not the player, if you're the player then you can do this shit. but never, EVER force your shit onto a player...
you're*
yeah, I haven't had the really kinky weird shit thrown at me yet, but I cannot count the number of times, someone has promised one thing and delivered something entirely different.
The second the DM said "Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic" I would have walked away. That's a enough cringe to kill 5 blue whales and level half a first world country.
No, "Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic" is what HE said at the FIRST DM to try to foil the DM's furry moment.
@@jerk1921 No I mean it in the way as "The moment" he said that , not the actual 2nd DM.
I haven't watched the video yet, and out of context that sounds like a friggin legit B movie line.
I think the player said that, not the DM
The OP (player) said it, not the DM (Edge).
So many DnD horror stories begin with "He was a furry, and I have no issue with that, BUT..."
My little human druid was revealed to be a were-raven by the DM, but I'd given her a Mysterious Past (found on the doorstep of a couple on the edge of a village, has strange visions and the ability to speak to spirits and animals...) and I was basically inviting the DM to fill the blanks in about her true origins. The DM gave me this ON TOP of Lamb's personality and abilities, not INSTEAD of them, and always respected her asexuality.
Being able to fly and cast spells was pretty sweet. Shame I only got this late enough in the game that the immunity to non-magical non-silvered weapons didn't come into play, but to be fair that would have been SUPER over-powered.
I remember joining a game and the DM started a backstory one on one session to set my character up. Originally I intended to play a spoiled, artisocratice male warlock with some weight on him, that made a bargain with a different eldritch god to escape his current coven that intended to sacrifice him.
The DM got the gist, but for some reason, always referred to my character as she/her (I'm a woman irl, but wanted to play a male character.) I shrugged it off and decided to just go with it and swap the character's gender to female. The DM proceed to tell me in my intro session that I appeared in a dream-like fog, walking around a chamber hall. Torches line the ritual room and cloaked figures appeared to be preforming a sacrificial ritual. Upon closer look, my character discovered the sacrifice was myself, drugged and stripped naked. My character proceeded to witness her own rape and murder before everything faded to black.
Upon waking, I was suddenly playing in the body of a little girl, freshly woven into existence by an old crone. All my memories intact. After the set-up was done, I talked frankly with the DM that, while was fantastic at setting up the scene, but I didn't really appreciate the radical change to my character, and the way in which he made it happen. His response still makes my blood run cold; "I was just building up what you were suggesting in the way you responded. Sorry."
I feel like I could have designed the most brutish, hyper-masculine character I could think of, and he would have changed my character's gender and rapidly forced my character into being raped for some backstory. This is one of the reasons why I hate playing female characers in dnd.
Im a furry, i play D&D, never once have i elicited anything suggestive towards any in-game character for how they look, or expressed any romantic affections or affiliations of any kind to anyone, even when two tabaxi showed up and got suggestive with my character, he would always bring up his dead wife and they would run off xD
I do however, always play the beast races :P dragonborn, tabaxi, arracokra, kobold, kenku, i love aaaaall of them, they always bring interesting niches to how they play, like how my arracokra bard swings around a giant hammer in the form of a modified lute with his clawed feet, so i RP in combat that as he swings he flaps his wings to get some height as he jumps on the spot so he can do a front flip above an enemies head before crashing down on them with the hammers inertia, or how my sorcerer kenku cant speak (as most kenku dont) so he communicates by using his storm mage powers to manipulate the granules in a hand-held bowl of dirty water to spell out symbols and letters that the party interprets as words for them to understand.
Getting creative with a character instead of trying to live out your annoying incel fantasies, especially if you are a furry, is how you can really bring out the best of that character, use their biology to give them flavour in RP, instead of using them to bang stuff :D
Wait... do they think Protection from Good and Evil is about alignment?!
1.) A Poor Start
// Edge.... said he would give us all an extra boon.....my Half-Elf Cleric of Selune, could turn into a Werebear.
Already this is a bit out of line to be dictating such an important aspect of someone else's character. If you're giving a "*boon*," the player should be choosing from a list unless they already agreed to be given a pre-generated character.
2.) Yikes
// My Half-Elf Cleric was male, but a bishonen who had an upbeat and supportive personality, at least that's how I envisioned him. He grew up in an orphanage and the caretaker was essentially my surrogate mother.
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// Edge began pushing the Blood Hunter class on me....
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// .......telling me how my father had abandoned me after my mother was brutally killed by vampires.....
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// .......and how it filled me with a fanatical hatred of vampires.....
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// .......and how bitter and vengeful my character was.
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// .......he watned to make my character as hyper masculine as possible.........
So many things wrong at this point, OP should have been out the door. Of course we wouldn't have an RPG horror story if people all had good boundaries.
I want to clarify something: I am not a furry. I do however know quite a few and through them I've seen a LOT of artwork. The second story makes it sound like ALL furry art is the same and I assure you, that couldn't be further from the truth. There are countless style choices and types. Also, despite what most of the internet seems to think, it's not all nudes, porn and sexy times. In-fact, that only a small portion of the greater community.
Stay strong my furry friends!
Love the channel. Do you guys accept story submissions or are the stories all yours.
This might get buried so I'll respond. This channel is based on mostly submissions and Reddit posts but there are some hidden gems of his own stories!
I'm stuck as a Bear now? Okay. So, what's my line?
"I hate all things vampire, and I will avenge my lost parents whether it cost me body or soul!" Okay.
"Rgt arrngs vrrngrh, rhn yrrl grrreemmh mrrffrrrsh err rrft mmh grrshrrl!"
10:30
Clarify:
Being a furry isn't a fetish. Some Furries for example just like the community, the art or simply some movies like Zootopia, the Robin Hood where he's a Fox, etc.
It's like saying liking cars is a fetish. Of course there are people who feel sexually attracted to cars but just because you like cars doesnt mean its anything sexual. It's basically just a stereotype.
Furry Stereotypes that are not always the case:
Gay(alot are but not all)
Furry is a Fetish (No, but its a part of the fandom)
Furry Stereotypes that are true:
Cringe(We embrace it and laugh about it ourselves)
We spend alot of money for furry stuff (i myself paid 200$ on the character in my pfp alone for example)
Thanks for reading and have a nice day ^w^
5:04 Oh please, that was *bearly* a pun.
Yet another example of the group forgetting that Protection from Evil and from Good does not affect creatures based on Alignment, but instead affects creatures based on their types. In 5e, that's just how the spell runs. In 3.5, it was alignment-based, but this whole video is prefaced with these stories being in 5e.
Furry DM tries to kill you? "AVENGE ME BROTHER ! BROTHER AVENGE ME !"
*pulls pin on grenade*
“For the Emperor.”
When someone else, especially the GM, try to play your character it never ends well.
character tries to engage in femboy fetish, dm attempts to make them into a furry bara, game implodes
Man I always feel bad when I hear stories like this cause of the fifty some furrys I'm friends/acquainted with they're all such nice people yet all you ever hear about are the bad ones, part of me wonder shy we love only bringing up the worst of experiences but then i recall its really hard to make a compelling tale out of 'everyone got along and had fun. The End.
People tend to remember really bad games more then average or good-ish games. And that's natural, remembering bad experiences is part of how we learn. I guess it's just remembering that for every terrible game there's probably eight average games and one really great one.
AMEN!! MY daughter is a furry. As I stated in a different comment thread, she would not ever act like that, nor attempt to push her own preference onto someone else.
Me to second DM. If you had told us this was a furry verse I would have made a character appropriate for it. Let me know what the setting rules are so I can make a new character. And BTW, having all the NPCs drop sexual innuendos constantly just makes you a 'creepy Mc Stalker' so be aware you might be boycotted for that behavior.
All the videos on this channel are gripe session lately i miss the really cool stories that used to come out here.
Im gonna be honest, your reading has gotten so much better since i started watching you a year ago dude. Props 😁
first of all a dm telling you what your backstory is and how your character feels about something is BS
First transformation "A furious bloodthirsty rage overtook me" Werebears have a NG Alignment there should be no rage. I can tell why they called the DM Edge.
Also is it just me or does the island on the right look like a stegosaurus?
I can't say I ever understood the whole "Tried to kill my character" thing, like you're the DM you can just say "oh man, this thing Nat 20'd you 3 times in a row, that's crazy!". Of course some people don't want to make it obvious, but when you're trying to force sexual fantasies on your players I think you're already too far gone.
Classical "MmAAgicaaLl ReALMm" scenario
Lol, DM noob also... Protection from good and evil should still works even if the creature is neutral...
Should have gone full Baloo and sang the Bear Necessities
"Today's the day the Teddy bears have their picnic" *Duke Nukem theme starts playing*
I never understood DMing or playing your fetishes in DnD. Unless everyone is into it and/or okay with roleplaying it you are going to make someone uncomfortable, that's kinda how fetishes are. Even as a furry I may put an element of it into my character, like say a wolf shaman in Shadowrun, but I'm never gonna push it as a fetish as while it may be a thing I'm into I'm nervous and uncomfortable about acting it out in front of people, and most people would be uncomfortable with me acting it out in front of them. And maybe this limits my ability just a little bit, I'm willing to accept that there are things I can get better at, and maybe I'll be able to one day better read the room and scale in and out elements that I'm not comfortable with for genuine roleplay reasons for other people. Until then though, I'm really going to avoid things I'm not comfortable with putting in a game, and should a player/DM tell me that there is something I'm doing they aren't comfortable with I'm likely to rearrange my character as needed to remove it entirely.
Immediate problem detected... lack of session zero where players talk to dm and work together to create the story, and to do that the dm needs to know and accept your character
great video
Out of my whole time of playing D&D I have only run into one really bad furry player who did some really bad stuff. The rest have been completely normal people who just happen to want to play some kind of animal character and take the game serious with no kink stuff. But man the amount of non-furry people I have run into who do worse things than this is baffling to me. I always make sure to try and figure out how a dm runs stuff or what players what from their game ahead of time. It is more important to check and test the waters when going into a new group.
Even as a furry myself, I don't condone the things this DM has done, I would instead prefer a group that I could settle in with, or I'd rather play to the rulings of the GM. Outside of those kind of campaigns, I typically choose a halfling druid small enough to write a dog without any penalties. You can still get creative with things outside of your comfort zone. And oh dear god the fetish pushing...
Ah, the power tripping DM.
I don't get what's with the DM. Just make your listing say "I'm looking for players who are up for the following: Edgy dark backstories, detailed sex scenes between D&D races, etc". and like... just explain to the potential players you're wanting to run a furry smut thing or whatever. Is it a bit weird? Yeah, probably. But you'll get much more in-tune players if you make it clear what you're looking for. It's all fantasy anyway, so the actual issues of it being non-human can be pushed aside as long as everyone involved is on the same page about it.
Story 2:
I don't get why the DM didn't just run an Ironclaw game.
Look both DMs / GMs and their players need to make it clear when they are uncomfortable about something and the others need to be receptive and accepting of that. Though I will admit I don’t understand why the beast tribes wouldn’t at least wear loincloths or something similar.
As a dm, I make sure I don't mess with the actual characters unless I talk to the players about it first.
I did this, I talked to my player about his PC might be pushed to multiclass into something, but only if he was willing to accept it (otherwise I would just change the plot); He liked the idea, but he didn't want to know what he would multiclass. Right now he's playing a paladin, but in about 3 sessions he may be playing a Hexadin with a Lawful Good alignment sentient weapon as a patron.
The fucking weapon itself is a fucking nuke it can do like 30d20 of radiant damage to hostile creatures on a radio of a whole city, but at the cost of his PC life (Which personally I don't like that kind of stuff, but my player does and make his PC around the whole concept of self-sacrifice or somehow end as a hero if he doesn't die halfway, if he wants to sacrifice his PC I would make sure it will be one of the most epic sacrifice ever seen for my player).
When I read "furry DM" in the title i knew it was gonna be a cringy DM, and then remembered i am myself a furry DM, and that everyone loves my dm'ing and don't care i'm a furry. Maybe it's just this DM from the video idk
I don’t get DMs that punish and have grudges, the point is being impartial. The fun part for be is being impartial, I’m just the calculating machine with a slight bias toward my players fun 🤷♂️
Even if I’m annoyed at you I’m not gonna get you through the game like a child
"Today is the day the Teddy bears have their picnic."
I genuinely facepalmed.
Protection From Evil And Good has nothing to do with the fact, that the enemies are neutral.
The spell works on certain types of creatures. These are the things why I think some this cringe stories are fabrications. If you do not know how your spell works, that is a little sus.
In the stories original posting on r/rpg horror stories, the poster did specify creature types, not sure why it was changed to neutral.
@@RAClaus3 I do not know, if you have a story of evil fay on an Island, without any fay, it is an effort.
But even then, the next paragraph, is about the boss that is a fey/celestial/Undead combo. All three of that thing is effected by Protection From Evil And Good.
The player knows what was the type of the monster. Undead is the most easier type of thing to identified, without meta knowledge.
Some GMs can be idiots, but saying that your magic is not working on intended targets, is a rare thing, outside of sus stories.
These are the game facts of common knowledge, like saves, and how fireball works.
I still think it is a little sus. Maybe the player was the most unsure, confrontation avoiding personality. Maybe the GM just lied of the nature of the enemies, (What is super hard in this case). I saw issues with Protection From Evil And Good with undercover demons, where the GM overlooked, but not with fey/celestial/Undead boss.
This is like if in some story someone would say, "So I casted Turn Undead, to mingle in the Undead Hoard, but the GM was mean, and required me to roll a deceive check".
Yea it is mean, but the spell is not turning your character to undead! :D
@@Aegis482 Alright, a little more feedback, I am the OP of the story, so I will elaborate a little more. When we got to the island the DM had an NPC tell us that the evil fae were trying to sink the sky island. He even had a hag mock us from a distance. Naturally, knowing in character that our foes were fae, I prepared the spell. He then proceeded to not throw a single fae creature at us, they were either monstrosities or constructs, he even made the satyrs, monstrosities, instead of fae. Our Bard did the arcana check for the hybrid creature, and he smugly told us it was those three types combined while at the same time being none of them, so my protection from good and evil would be useless against it.
@@RAClaus3 In that case, I am sorry. The story was misrepresented in the video.
By that it has all the red flags, to make is sus. It looks like someone really wanted to tell the Beast***ty story.
Tis is why, I am very carful to play in custom worlds. Keep on playing D&D, and I wish less of these king of "strange" people.
If a DM wants to make a world inhabited mostly by animal-like races, that's fine, as long as they tell the players upfront and aren't weird about it. Could be an interesting campaign setting as long as it's not just the vessel for the DMs weird fetishs
I'm a bit confused by the second story.
From the description my first thought of 'naked' was 'cartoon naked', you know, like Duck Tales, etc. How's that a fetish? Because 'furry' is about anthropomorphised animals and that's very vague of what ot entails. Unless there's much more of the story we aren't being told.
But the DM should have been honest from the outset about what they go for. Some people might dig it, some might want more conventional fantasy.
DMs in this game = Marry Sue's
Kid: I want Zootopia at home
Mom: We have Zootopia at home
Zootopia at home:
So in short,
Gothic Furry gone loco? Is what I’m getting at in this story.
I'm never going to see my story here 😞
Oh man, this guy would love krom the fingarian