"I don't know if the MLP writers would even be allowed to go for this. I mean it seems like it's a little dark." Did you forget last season when the Tree of Harmony literally melted the Mean 6?
I totally agree with your theory DRWolf, and you're right, the idea of Grogar fusing Cozy Glow,Tirek and Chrysalis into one big super monster does sound pretty dark.
I was worried about the idea of Cozy merging with the Pony of Shadows, but the thought of her merging with Tirek and Chrysalis absolutely terrifies me.
Karl Sweeney: yeah wow. And here I am thinking it would be even darker if it showed the bright light appear between all three of them as the light absorbs them together like a magnet. Then you could see the terror on their faces as the desperately try to claw at the ground to escape their inevitable fate.
4:57 Speaking of that, I'm pretty positive Discord's actually going to die in the end. What's he been saying over and over again? "You don't need me." What'd he do in the season premiere? Faked his death. What did we learn from Angel when he was swapped with Fluttershy? She wants to marry Discord! Its to perfect not to pay off.
This theory makes sense. ....I want it to happen! This would definitely make the stakes higher and possibly one of the best finals that Mlp has ever done! I want the series to end with a bang!!!
Once it clicked what exactly you were suggesting, I let out what was basically an evil laugh. Like, this could be super disturbing and twisted, but I really want to see it now. This is a really cool theory and I think if the show were to ever do something like this, now would be the time
Im guessing that at the beginning Grogar will dominate Equestria with the help of villains, but in the end Twilight will somehow convince them to fight with them against Grogar and they will reform
I love this idea. Even if it doesn't take place (as it sadly probably won't) I like the idea that the final season has had clues and hints to what is coming that aren't in your face, and its focus is on what the villains are doing instead of the main six. And maybe, one of the villains while in this chimera fusion does decides NOT to go through with what Grogar is forcing them to do. It conjures up some interesting psychological themes as well as intriging visuals. :)
What i said long ago! XD Also goes with the idea of COSMOS, showed in the latest comics, when all princess are combined in one monstrosity, I know the comics are not canon, but the show in the latest seasons use many ideas from them
I've always seen the bell as a McGuffin and your theory fits in with it but with the twist that Grogar doesn't really need the bell he just need them to work more and more together and him not getting the bell is proof that they are working together
I wouldn't put it past that old goat to pull something that messed up. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he planned to do it from the get go judging from what intel we've got from all this season.
There are worse things than something as grim as 'death' for the three villains, even if one of them is a sociopathic kid. I find the worst possible fate a villain can endure is suffering their greatest nightmare: Being alive. To live only so the hero can remind them of all the horrible things they've done, effectively ruining their career even if the villain would be willing to commit acts of destruction and murder (Fortunately MLP does not believe in 'murder' even for heartless monsters). But whatever the show decides for the finale is entirely up to the writers.
I think instead of the multi heads approach, it's more of a hive mind situation. The main appearance will be Tirek who has Shapeshifting and love absorbing from Chrysalis and weather manipulation from Cozy. But when he speaks it sounds like him, Chrysalis, and Cozy speaking at once.
I also think that Grogar getting the Alicorn Amulet as insurance to keep himself ahead of the rest; it also seems in the trailer that the Wendigos have returned due to the Civil conflict that the villains product will start a civil war that'll be the perfect distraction for a question is military and for the forces of all the protagonist to be divided I'm trying to stop this. And with a plan that was from the original G1 series used necromancing to bring the spirits of Fallen ponies like the pillars of harmonies old friends and families and Applejack family against the characters! That can be more dark send both death of King Sombra and the Storm King!
The uniquely coloured energy beam blasting the heroes would be further evidence of that. If they go that way, I think Sombra got off easy. As for beating them? I think they'll send them to Limbo.
Acully the merged together part can be portred as not too dark the monsters like kemera and others are very comen and the body like discord not even get a look anymore but this tings alway can be reverst the end of the finale.
Either twilight sparkle with the help of the rest of the mane six can reverse the merger between tirek, chrysalis and cozy glow should grogar merge the together by using the power of friendship or if not the mane six then discord should be powerful enough to reverse grogar transformation spell on the villains
Well, I never thought of this before but it makes a lot of sence! I mean that strange red magic from the trailer... that might be the combinated magic of Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy because Grogar turned them into one monster! Sure it sounds pretty dark and it is nothing we've ever see before in the show but we can't know what they have in mind for an ,,epic end". One thing is for sure: Grogar will betray them, or they will betray Grogar. But if he already knows about the bell... that won't end well for Chrysalis, Tirek and Cozy. Perhaps something dark will happen to them. And perhaps after seeing Grogar's cruelty, they will reform ( if they reform) and help to stop him. Well, we'll still have to wait to see how they will ,,go over the top" and bring the most epic final ever.
That may be what the writers had in mind. I just hope that Grogar is not that easily fooled. Also your theory reminds me of an episode of an old show call Swat Katz(it’s got a lot of action for some humanoid cats that fly jets). The episode has one of the villains named Dr. viper tricking a minor villain(that we only get to see in one episode) into transforming into a mindless bacteria monster just to help him steal some chemicals. When you think about it that is pretty dark.
I believe his plan is to wipe out all of Equestria at once and all the ponies in it, and then recreate it in his own image. Of course, he wouldn't let the other villains on it.
Jake Astl Yeah, because he will backstab the villains that he want to work with to destroy them to not get in his way of his way of the destruction of Equestria.
Which then makes me question..was Discord the first attempt by Grogar to create an engine of destruction such as that? Maybe Discord was his first tool to conquer Equestria.
This might even point towards Discord and him being the constructs of several creatures. I hope they go with that idea as well so it would make some sense. :)
I would honestly be horrified if I saw Cozy forcibly merged with Tirek and Chrysalis but I would be okay with it as long as she's turned back to her adorable self before the end of the show. It'd be pretty haunting if they implied the three merged together as an eternal punishment that's far worse than Tartarus.
You know Cozy Glow's chess cutie mark? I think it means that she can manipulate ponies like you can a chessboard, each one being one of your pawns. The chess piece can also represent that first looks can be deceiving, because you might look at the cutie mark and think she is good at chess, when it has an entire differnt meaning. Like how Cozy Glow looks cute and innocent, when she is really not.
Oooooo, shivers down neck o-o But I would like to see that change though, it would be interesting to see the show make something so wild and make it kid friendly
Hmm... a fusion of characters into a super monster. It does have potential and hopefully will be less nightmare fuel than what we got from the Cosmos storyline in the comics.
It's a dark and interesting idea. But I wonder...if Grogar really doesn't know that they have his bell or if they use it against him, is he strong enough to stand against the big amount of magic in his own bell? Does his bell even hurt him? Are they connected? If Grogar get harmed by his bell, can it be, that he tries to destroy it? Can he destroy it? I hope we will hear more about Gusty the Great. I also hope that the other kingdoms will fight against the villains together, especially the changelings and dragons. I don't think that Tirek can absorb something from dragons. Tirek couldn't absorb something from spike, because they have no magic. Tirek would be powerless agianst dragons. At least from the absorbing part.
The magical beam we see in the trailer, the one that destroys the Canterlot Castle, does speak for what you have been saying in this video, Dr Wolf. That beam was clearly Tirek's, as it was lava-colored, but it also had sparks of green lightning surround it, just like Chrysalis' magic. There is also an option that after learning what Grogar has planned for them, and losing the bell to him, Cozy could actually escape before she's 'merged' with the other two villains. As for control of that new creature, Grogar just needs his bell. He did call it "My Bewitching Bell" after all.
I hope that Cozy can escape such a terrible fate. Maybe she warns the Mane 6 so they actually stand a chance. Also, I never even considered your theory of Grogar's bell. That maybe Grogar is at his max power without his bell but it's by his bell that he is actually able to merge creatures. So by the Legion of Doom hiding his bell, they saved themselves from being merged for now.
After reading about Grogar and Grogar's bell from gen 1. I'd say that Grogar is planning on tricking the other villains into banishing themselves, along with the heroes of Equestria, to the Shadow World
crovax 13 Yeah, his bell that he used in the first generation MLP is a powerful thing but he is going to put Treik, Chrysalis, and Cosy Glow together to create a powerful beast to destroy Equestria. And Twilight with the main 6 and the princesses are going to face a powerful force but how they can defeat them without the elements. Well the MLP writers will have to come up with something.
I never really thought of that, interesting Dr. Wolf. Grogar so far is to merge the three together is, is, woah. That is scary and a huge possibility. It makes sense. It also makes sense of the big red magical beam being the combined power of all three with a taste of Grogar's magic. OH MY. This is really interesting.
Got to thinking on it. What if Grogar is not the farther of all monsters, but the farther of ponies? Being that ponies rule over all the world, what if Grogar made the ponies to do his bidding & they staged a Coup d'etat?
Hello Dr Wolf! The past few weeks have been a real downer for me and I've been feeling super frazzled the past few days too so it's nice to see another one of your always brilliant theories ... Seriously people, I'll be shocked if Grogar *doesn't* try to backstab/punish the other villains! It's really happening isn't it? MLP is ending, and for all its flaws I really will miss it 😭😭😭 so long as Dr a Wolf stays a part of the world after MLP ends I can deal width it. Thank you for another great video dearest Dr Wolf 💙🐱💙
Weather manipulation? She is a Pegasus after all. And with the combined magical power of Chrysalis and Tirek, it could boost that ability. Maybe that's why there was lightning happening in the trailer. The Wendigos only really do Winter based storms.
Cozy is smarter than any of the villains (Tirek may have outsmarted her by getting her to climb the mountain when he sat by and relaxed but that doesn't make him smarter than her in every way). After all, it was Cozy's idea on how to safely retrieve the bell in the first place. So maybe if she were combined, that her intelligence would make the Legion of Doom think through everything. Or maybe Cozy's manipulation would be combined with Tirek's strength so that she can manipulate others even easier, even if they already know that Cozy is bad. I mean, if the merged Legion of Doom have all the powers of the original 3, they could just use Chrysalis's shapeshifting ability to disguise their horrific appearance:
@@shadowspector3611 Discord knows what Grogar is up to, he's playing stupid. Discord truly wants the Mane 6 to learn how to be leaders of Equestria, even keeping a secret from Fluttershy, so he is being serious.
Whether it's the final battle or punishment for finding the bell it'll be interesting to see if Grogar manages to do what many villains could not and hopefully give us a triumphant ending to the series ^^
Applejack foreshadowed that they would lose in the premiere. "And if you think about it, there hasn't been a single villain we haven't been able to defeat." Then Grogar immediately appeared to snatch the 4 villains. To some extent, Cozy foreshadowed their victory as well: "lets go, begin. This time we're gonna win." I think that maybe the final battle will have Grogar and the Legion of Doom fight against the Mane 6 and actually win, but then the Legion of Doom doesn't like what they're doing and they free the Mane 6 to battle against Grogar.
In truth it wasn’t just season 9 that hinted at this, The season 8 finale involved twilight pulling the magic from the creatures of Tartarus that was responsible for their combined shape and when she did they all turned back into their composite creatures. The chimera the bugbear a cockatrice all of them win the magic they kept them down together was removed turned into multiple creatures. If they do end up going down this route I don’t think they’re going to go with some lovecraftian design, it could very well end up creating something similar to discord.
Kids are so sheltered these days. an 8 year old girl or boy can handle what you said. I was watching Unsolved Mysteries when I was 7 years old when my parents weren't around. Being a kid decades ago was awesome.
Tirek + Cozy Glow + Chrysalis = Tirozylis 6:16 They've learned to work together, but do they know how to work *pause* together? If you know what I mean.
if the writers do have this idea of yours in mind doc than by definition the only way to reverse and return tirek, chrysalis, and cozy to what they use to be would be to wipe grogar off the face of equestria which also and this is a tall order but if that happens not only with the legion of doom be returned to what they were but all of grogar's creations could be returned to their base animal forms and fluttershy could have a lot more animals to take care of in her sanctuary with help from dr fauna, angel, and quite possibly even discord but thats just my theory which another would be that grogar could become reformed release the legion of doom and undo his magic on every monster in tartarus and the ever free forest thus confirming everything excecpt for discord
I believe Grogar's crystal ball or Orb thing is originally the eye of the cyclops who stole from the Griffin stone episode when Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie visited the griffins when they map sent them their
I have to agree it would be very interesting and if they were saved by the mane 6 this would also encourage them to help if a final battle were to take place against grogar
Oh how i would love for that theory to be right would make for badassness in the series finale. Even if the writers don't do so i have a good feeling Grogar does know and is planning to either bend them to his will anyway and or simply lay them flat on their backs after giving them an ass kicking.
Now that's quite a theory. I think it's very conceivable that the creators would do it despite the dark aspects; after all, other modern cartoons have been known to go the extra mile when it comes to risk-taking in the series finale. It would explain why we never see a shot of the villains in the first trailer and may even explain Twilight's emotional distress in that great climactic showdown moment; could she possibly be grieving for the Chrysalis-Cozy-Tirek hybrid that she's about to put out of its misery? There is one slight possible issue with the theory; the trailer which is presumably showing us clips of the battle in the finale contains green and orange blasts of magic (Chrysalis and Tireks' colours) as well as the red ones. However, that needn't be a deal-breaker by any means.
I seriously want the remaining three villains to be reformed except Grogar because I must see him destroyed or seeing his magic drained out of him. Plus, I already seen this video more than two days ago on my SMART TV's TH-cam.
If the writers are going to do this, they better make them look scary and not ridiculous. I'd be disappointed if such an idea was wasted because the audience couldn't take the threat seriously.
Well with the 2017 movie. They were will to shatter the Storm King. So if at some point they're planning another movie. The writers Maybe more likely willing to do something as dark as what you're talkin about.
What if coss glow in her haste took not the real bel but a replica instead they did not check if it was the real thing and Grogar had the real thing all along and send them to test them out?
"I don't know if the MLP writers would even be allowed to go for this. I mean it seems like it's a little dark." Did you forget last season when the Tree of Harmony literally melted the Mean 6?
And Sombra got vaporized this season so the darkness should be fresh in the writers' minds.
@@shadowspector3611 Its the last season.. Fuck the suits at Hasbro, let DHX have their fun.
NO RULES!! TRAUMATIZE THE CHILDREN!! THEY WON'T CARE SO LONG AS THEY GET A HAPPY ENDING!! LET'S DON BLUTH THIS POP STAND!!
My thoughts exactly
And the part where Sombra busts through the Tree of Harmony like the Cool Aid Man?
That would explain why none of the villains were seen during the finale trailer.
I totally agree with your theory DRWolf, and you're right, the idea of Grogar fusing Cozy Glow,Tirek and Chrysalis into one big super monster does sound pretty dark.
DAMN YOU COMMENT FAST OoO
I was worried about the idea of Cozy merging with the Pony of Shadows, but the thought of her merging with Tirek and Chrysalis absolutely terrifies me.
Karl Sweeney: yeah wow. And here I am thinking it would be even darker if it showed the bright light appear between all three of them as the light absorbs them together like a magnet. Then you could see the terror on their faces as the desperately try to claw at the ground to escape their inevitable fate.
This theory reminds me the Amalgamates from undertale
4:57 Speaking of that, I'm pretty positive Discord's actually going to die in the end. What's he been saying over and over again? "You don't need me." What'd he do in the season premiere? Faked his death. What did we learn from Angel when he was swapped with Fluttershy? She wants to marry Discord! Its to perfect not to pay off.
This theory makes sense. ....I want it to happen! This would definitely make the stakes higher and possibly one of the best finals that Mlp has ever done! I want the series to end with a bang!!!
I feel like when the villains get punished, they will be rescued by the Main Six in one way or another and then all magic blast Grogar to oblivion.
Once it clicked what exactly you were suggesting, I let out what was basically an evil laugh. Like, this could be super disturbing and twisted, but I really want to see it now. This is a really cool theory and I think if the show were to ever do something like this, now would be the time
Im guessing that at the beginning Grogar will dominate Equestria with the help of villains, but in the end Twilight will somehow convince them to fight with them against Grogar and they will reform
I love this idea. Even if it doesn't take place (as it sadly probably won't) I like the idea that the final season has had clues and hints to what is coming that aren't in your face, and its focus is on what the villains are doing instead of the main six. And maybe, one of the villains while in this chimera fusion does decides NOT to go through with what Grogar is forcing them to do. It conjures up some interesting psychological themes as well as intriging visuals. :)
What i said long ago! XD
Also goes with the idea of COSMOS, showed in the latest comics, when all princess are combined in one monstrosity,
I know the comics are not canon, but the show in the latest seasons use many ideas from them
I've always seen the bell as a McGuffin and your theory fits in with it but with the twist that Grogar doesn't really need the bell he just need them to work more and more together and him not getting the bell is proof that they are working together
My dear canine.... that's devious.... it's diabolical!!
ITS SIMPLY DIVINE I LOVE IT!
Emperor Grogar Our wish is to serve you...
@@queenchrysalis183 Yeah right Chrysalis.
Oh my gosh, Hi Queen Chrysalis and Grogar lol XD
@@kwami_ponyrock Hello Kwami
I want chrysalis to reform!
I wouldn't put it past that old goat to pull something that messed up. Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he planned to do it from the get go judging from what intel we've got from all this season.
Grogar is like Thanos, he knows, he is the puppeteer.
There are worse things than something as grim as 'death' for the three villains, even if one of them is a sociopathic kid. I find the worst possible fate a villain can endure is suffering their greatest nightmare: Being alive. To live only so the hero can remind them of all the horrible things they've done, effectively ruining their career even if the villain would be willing to commit acts of destruction and murder (Fortunately MLP does not believe in 'murder' even for heartless monsters). But whatever the show decides for the finale is entirely up to the writers.
I too have to admit dr.wolf that grogar could be aware of tirek, chrysalis, & cozy glow’s betrayal
You think
MrGabeanator it’s just a theory but it might happen because villains who team up sometimes betray one another
it´s a very interesting and yet Dark theory, Doc. But who knows what will happen, considering that villians like Grogar are very unpredictable.
I think instead of the multi heads approach, it's more of a hive mind situation. The main appearance will be Tirek who has Shapeshifting and love absorbing from Chrysalis and weather manipulation from Cozy. But when he speaks it sounds like him, Chrysalis, and Cozy speaking at once.
Discord is an amalgam of creatures.... that one flew right past you didn't it?
I also think that Grogar getting the Alicorn Amulet as insurance to keep himself ahead of the rest; it also seems in the trailer that the Wendigos have returned due to the Civil conflict that the villains product will start a civil war that'll be the perfect distraction for a question is military and for the forces of all the protagonist to be divided I'm trying to stop this. And with a plan that was from the original G1 series used necromancing to bring the spirits of Fallen ponies like the pillars of harmonies old friends and families and Applejack family against the characters! That can be more dark send both death of King Sombra and the Storm King!
The uniquely coloured energy beam blasting the heroes would be further evidence of that. If they go that way, I think Sombra got off easy.
As for beating them? I think they'll send them to Limbo.
Acully the merged together part can be portred as not too dark the monsters like kemera and others are very comen and the body like discord not even get a look anymore but this tings alway can be reverst the end of the finale.
Either twilight sparkle with the help of the rest of the mane six can reverse the merger between tirek, chrysalis and cozy glow should grogar merge the together by using the power of friendship or if not the mane six then discord should be powerful enough to reverse grogar transformation spell on the villains
The fan art this video is going to inspire.
Well, I never thought of this before but it makes a lot of sence! I mean that strange red magic from the trailer... that might be the combinated magic of Tirek, Chrysalis and Cozy because Grogar turned them into one monster! Sure it sounds pretty dark and it is nothing we've ever see before in the show but we can't know what they have in mind for an ,,epic end".
One thing is for sure: Grogar will betray them, or they will betray Grogar. But if he already knows about the bell... that won't end well for Chrysalis, Tirek and Cozy. Perhaps something dark will happen to them. And perhaps after seeing Grogar's cruelty, they will reform ( if they reform) and help to stop him. Well, we'll still have to wait to see how they will ,,go over the top" and bring the most epic final ever.
That may be what the writers had in mind. I just hope that Grogar is not that easily fooled.
Also your theory reminds me of an episode of an old show call Swat Katz(it’s got a lot of action for some humanoid cats that fly jets). The episode has one of the villains named Dr. viper tricking a minor villain(that we only get to see in one episode) into transforming into a mindless bacteria monster just to help him steal some chemicals.
When you think about it that is pretty dark.
I believe his plan is to wipe out all of Equestria at once and all the ponies in it, and then recreate it in his own image. Of course, he wouldn't let the other villains on it.
Jake Astl Yeah, because he will backstab the villains that he want to work with to destroy them to not get in his way of his way of the destruction of Equestria.
Which then makes me question..was Discord the first attempt by Grogar to create an engine of destruction such as that? Maybe Discord was his first tool to conquer Equestria.
This might even point towards Discord and him being the constructs of several creatures. I hope they go with that idea as well so it would make some sense. :)
I would honestly be horrified if I saw Cozy forcibly merged with Tirek and Chrysalis but I would be okay with it as long as she's turned back to her adorable self before the end of the show. It'd be pretty haunting if they implied the three merged together as an eternal punishment that's far worse than Tartarus.
This really was a great theory. I rather like how the writers resolved this, but this really could have been a great direction for the series to go.
You are about to be so fu**on disappointed.
You know Cozy Glow's chess cutie mark? I think it means that she can manipulate ponies like you can a chessboard, each one being one of your pawns.
The chess piece can also represent that first looks can be deceiving, because you might look at the cutie mark and think she is good at chess, when it has an entire differnt meaning.
Like how Cozy Glow looks cute and innocent, when she is really not.
I mean grogar is... the thanos of mlp final.... so yeah....
Will he steal the Main Six’s powers and use The Snap?
NintendoBrother well I wouldn’t say snap more like.... STOMP!!
WhyBe Productions you fool, Thanos didn’t merge characters together...
That theory is horrifying .3.
Oooooo, shivers down neck o-o
But I would like to see that change though, it would be interesting to see the show make something so wild and make it kid friendly
Haha...dark.....there's been many dark things that has happened in FiM T. T We can go darker!
Hmm... a fusion of characters into a super monster. It does have potential and hopefully will be less nightmare fuel than what we got from the Cosmos storyline in the comics.
It's a dark and interesting idea. But I wonder...if Grogar really doesn't know that they have his bell or if they use it against him, is he strong enough to stand against the big amount of magic in his own bell? Does his bell even hurt him? Are they connected? If Grogar get harmed by his bell, can it be, that he tries to destroy it? Can he destroy it? I hope we will hear more about Gusty the Great. I also hope that the other kingdoms will fight against the villains together, especially the changelings and dragons. I don't think that Tirek can absorb something from dragons. Tirek couldn't absorb something from spike, because they have no magic. Tirek would be powerless agianst dragons. At least from the absorbing part.
Dear Dr. Wolf... YOU. ARE. A. FUCKING. GENIOUS.
I didn't even thought about that! Even after watching the trailer!
The magical beam we see in the trailer, the one that destroys the Canterlot Castle, does speak for what you have been saying in this video, Dr Wolf. That beam was clearly Tirek's, as it was lava-colored, but it also had sparks of green lightning surround it, just like Chrysalis' magic. There is also an option that after learning what Grogar has planned for them, and losing the bell to him, Cozy could actually escape before she's 'merged' with the other two villains. As for control of that new creature, Grogar just needs his bell. He did call it "My Bewitching Bell" after all.
I hope that Cozy can escape such a terrible fate. Maybe she warns the Mane 6 so they actually stand a chance.
Also, I never even considered your theory of Grogar's bell. That maybe Grogar is at his max power without his bell but it's by his bell that he is actually able to merge creatures. So by the Legion of Doom hiding his bell, they saved themselves from being merged for now.
After reading about Grogar and Grogar's bell from gen 1. I'd say that Grogar is planning on tricking the other villains into banishing themselves, along with the heroes of Equestria, to the Shadow World
crovax 13 Yeah, his bell that he used in the first generation MLP is a powerful thing but he is going to put Treik, Chrysalis, and Cosy Glow together to create a powerful beast to destroy Equestria. And Twilight with the main 6 and the princesses are going to face a powerful force but how they can defeat them without the elements. Well the MLP writers will have to come up with something.
@@1Soniccool did you watch the finale already?
maybe he will turn them into monsters or one monster or he might plan to kill them
*Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood flashbacks intensify*
I never really thought of that, interesting Dr. Wolf. Grogar so far is to merge the three together is, is, woah. That is scary and a huge possibility. It makes sense. It also makes sense of the big red magical beam being the combined power of all three with a taste of Grogar's magic. OH MY. This is really interesting.
It’s a interesting theory if gorgar does do that he’s officially the the sou tucker of the mlp universe
I actually agree with this theory
Got to thinking on it. What if Grogar is not the farther of all monsters, but the farther of ponies? Being that ponies rule over all the world, what if Grogar made the ponies to do his bidding & they staged a Coup d'etat?
Well I hope they get pulled apart eventually. Like in the last season where all the fused creatures came apart.
Grogar is definately gonna be a true villain me and my friends going to face but we aren't scared! Bring it on Grogar!!
Grover is a series finale Big Bad. He has a horrible fate in store for *everyone.*
Hello Dr Wolf! The past few weeks have been a real downer for me and I've been feeling super frazzled the past few days too so it's nice to see another one of your always brilliant theories ... Seriously people, I'll be shocked if Grogar *doesn't* try to backstab/punish the other villains!
It's really happening isn't it? MLP is ending, and for all its flaws I really will miss it 😭😭😭 so long as Dr a Wolf stays a part of the world after MLP ends I can deal width it.
Thank you for another great video dearest Dr Wolf 💙🐱💙
well it is the finally so they could get away with some dark moments that tends to happen at the end its ending so they can
I’ve been thinking the same thing. Grogar punishing Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy Glow in a dark gruesome way for keeping the bell from him.
Grogar fusing Chrysalis, Cozy Glow, and Tirek into one abomination? I don't know, it's gonna gross me out
I had the same observation of grogar merging the three
I have no idea what Grogar has planned, but I can't wait to find out in just a couple short months. Super excited to see this show go out with a bang.
Me, having seen the series finale due to leaks: hahaha...haha.....ha........hah......I wish
Not sure what use Cozy would serve, but Chrysalis and Tirek merged would be terrifying.
Weather manipulation? She is a Pegasus after all. And with the combined magical power of Chrysalis and Tirek, it could boost that ability. Maybe that's why there was lightning happening in the trailer. The Wendigos only really do Winter based storms.
Cozy is smarter than any of the villains (Tirek may have outsmarted her by getting her to climb the mountain when he sat by and relaxed but that doesn't make him smarter than her in every way). After all, it was Cozy's idea on how to safely retrieve the bell in the first place. So maybe if she were combined, that her intelligence would make the Legion of Doom think through everything. Or maybe Cozy's manipulation would be combined with Tirek's strength so that she can manipulate others even easier, even if they already know that Cozy is bad. I mean, if the merged Legion of Doom have all the powers of the original 3, they could just use Chrysalis's shapeshifting ability to disguise their horrific appearance:
@@shadowspector3611 Intelligence ranked
1.) Grogar
2.) Cozy
3.) Chrysalis and the Sirens
4.) Tirek
5.) Nightmare Moon
6.) Sombra
I'm excluding short term villains like Discord.
Swiggity Swag: yeah, I'd agree with that list. It seems like Grogar knows everything about the Legion of Doom.
@@shadowspector3611 Discord knows what Grogar is up to, he's playing stupid. Discord truly wants the Mane 6 to learn how to be leaders of Equestria, even keeping a secret from Fluttershy, so he is being serious.
Whoa... I never would've thought of that! Awesome idea!
Whether it's the final battle or punishment for finding the bell it'll be interesting to see if Grogar manages to do what many villains could not and hopefully give us a triumphant ending to the series ^^
Applejack foreshadowed that they would lose in the premiere. "And if you think about it, there hasn't been a single villain we haven't been able to defeat." Then Grogar immediately appeared to snatch the 4 villains. To some extent, Cozy foreshadowed their victory as well: "lets go, begin. This time we're gonna win."
I think that maybe the final battle will have Grogar and the Legion of Doom fight against the Mane 6 and actually win, but then the Legion of Doom doesn't like what they're doing and they free the Mane 6 to battle against Grogar.
In truth it wasn’t just season 9 that hinted at this, The season 8 finale involved twilight pulling the magic from the creatures of Tartarus that was responsible for their combined shape and when she did they all turned back into their composite creatures. The chimera the bugbear a cockatrice all of them win the magic they kept them down together was removed turned into multiple creatures.
If they do end up going down this route I don’t think they’re going to go with some lovecraftian design, it could very well end up creating something similar to discord.
Then the mane 6 fuse together at the end to fight against the fused villians... and Janemba is defeated.
"You may have been able to defeat them separately, but together, their power is unstoppable!" - Diabolico (PowerRangers LightspeedRescue)
I really want to see this now.
chances are he is aware they took his bell and most likely already has a plan to stop them and no doubt will punish them greatly
I was about to go to bed but my phone flash a video from dr wolf
Same here.
So, you think he is going to Shou Tucker this? A bit dark but it could still be played in a kid level way that Hasbro would probably allow it.
That wil be a good grimdark story!!
Kids are so sheltered these days. an 8 year old girl or boy can handle what you said. I was watching Unsolved Mysteries when I was 7 years old when my parents weren't around. Being a kid decades ago was awesome.
That would certainly be a very interesting twist if that's what the writers have in mind.
Tirek + Cozy Glow + Chrysalis = Tirozylis
6:16 They've learned to work together, but do they know how to work *pause* together? If you know what I mean.
Discord has really good acting skills 😜
meh
I would love for this to be real! Just the drama from it would be great!
if the writers do have this idea of yours in mind doc than by definition the only way to reverse and return tirek, chrysalis, and cozy to what they use to be would be to wipe grogar off the face of equestria which also and this is a tall order but if that happens not only with the legion of doom be returned to what they were but all of grogar's creations could be returned to their base animal forms and fluttershy could have a lot more animals to take care of in her sanctuary with help from dr fauna, angel, and quite possibly even discord but thats just my theory which another would be that grogar could become reformed release the legion of doom and undo his magic on every monster in tartarus and the ever free forest thus confirming everything excecpt for discord
I'm predicting all 4 of them will die in the series finale due to betraying each other.
*or stoned*
Why do I feel like the 3 villain will redeem themselves when Grogor betrays them.
Oooohhhhh trust me, they're not gonna be redeemed.
I believe Grogar's crystal ball or Orb thing is originally the eye of the cyclops who stole from the Griffin stone episode when Rainbow Dash and Pinkie Pie visited the griffins when they map sent them their
I have to agree it would be very interesting and if they were saved by the mane 6 this would also encourage them to help if a final battle were to take place against grogar
I'd be on board for this type of series finale!
Yeah. I think Grogar definitely has something in store for those three... perhaps SOMETHING Chaotic. **Wink**
Oh how i would love for that theory to be right would make for badassness in the series finale.
Even if the writers don't do so i have a good feeling Grogar does know and is planning to either bend them to his will anyway and or simply lay them flat on their backs after giving them an ass kicking.
First time I get to see a vid first. Idc if it’s not important,just neat for me
Congrats
How do you know you saw it first?
When I got the notification,it showed 0 views
@@Vector-jm1qk That number only gets updated every hour or so, so a number of people would have seen it say '0 views'
That sounds freaking amazing!! I hope they do this.
That theory is actually a great one, it would be pretty cool if that were to happen in the show!!!
Now that's quite a theory. I think it's very conceivable that the creators would do it despite the dark aspects; after all, other modern cartoons have been known to go the extra mile when it comes to risk-taking in the series finale. It would explain why we never see a shot of the villains in the first trailer and may even explain Twilight's emotional distress in that great climactic showdown moment; could she possibly be grieving for the Chrysalis-Cozy-Tirek hybrid that she's about to put out of its misery?
There is one slight possible issue with the theory; the trailer which is presumably showing us clips of the battle in the finale contains green and orange blasts of magic (Chrysalis and Tireks' colours) as well as the red ones. However, that needn't be a deal-breaker by any means.
I seriously want the remaining three villains to be reformed except Grogar because I must see him destroyed or seeing his magic drained out of him. Plus, I already seen this video more than two days ago on my SMART TV's TH-cam.
Grogar: I am INEVITABLE!!!
wow this makes a lot of sense, also what would you like to see for all the main characters before their story ends?
I'd be down for this.
You made me spit out my tea! What a theory! I sure hope this happens
So they could pull a Stranger Things Season 3 on us? That’s... so... morbid...
... I NEED THIS.
There is no way Hasbro would go that dark with the series finale
well i can say know that that theory is unfortunetly wrong :'c
Might as well go all out for this finale. It's going to be the series finale go all out with the darkness.
The theory makes sense im a little nervous to see what the three of them look combined
If the writers are going to do this, they better make them look scary and not ridiculous. I'd be disappointed if such an idea was wasted because the audience couldn't take the threat seriously.
Well with the 2017 movie. They were will to shatter the Storm King. So if at some point they're planning another movie. The writers Maybe more likely willing to do something as dark as what you're talkin about.
PLOT TWIST: grogar is discord
Pretty much disappointing am i right?
Albert Yarza yup
What if coss glow in her haste took not the real bel but a replica instead they did not check if it was the real thing and Grogar had the real thing all along and send them to test them out?
That would be spoopy for those young kids watching though..
Are really any young kids watching anymore?
Sounds devious Doctor!