Is Nike CHEATING us with their football boot latest Tech?
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For as long as I've been alive, soft ground football boots have always had removable and interchangeable metal studs. That's been the standard across all brands, and it just works. Having the option to interchange or replace the metal studs, depending on the circumstances, in my opinion is a very good thing. Well, Nike doesn't think so. At least not anymore.
In today's video we take a closer look at the new Blueprint pack Nike Tiempo Legend 9 Elite, with the Anti-Clog SG-Pro stud pattern. At a quick glance, nothing about looks abnormal. But, look a little closer, and you'll see that the metal tipped studs are fixed in place and molded to the boots, basically like an FG stud pattern. Why have they done this? Well, we discuss the pros and cons of this tech, and try to decide whether or not this is Nike pushing the boundaries of performance, or them cheating us out of options as consumers. What do you think?
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That colourway is dope. Probably my favorite Tiempo colourway (if not across all models) in a long time. The red is similar to the Legend III red but the torquise accents elevate it further. I have just bought these in the FG version
I would like to see your take on the adidas Predator Malice, Adizero RS7 and the Predaror XP from the previous generation since they are all allowed for use in football as well
Living in the midwest, and playing in mostly dry seasons, I've never really had the need to use SGs. A few years ago a buddy of mine that worked at adidas sent me a sample version of adidas adiPower (which were different than the released versions) and I absolutely love them. I only used them like 5 times but it does make a difference on wet grass.
*few years ago, I guess 10 years ago lol.
I personally bought the Tiempo 8 sg for the exact reason that the 9‘ don’t come with the option to replace the studs. After about one season of only using the 8‘ on match days played on sg I’ve found that the boots where still in exzellent shape but that sg studs need urgent replacement. All in all what Nike have done here is not fair to the customers who may need the replacement option.
I like it...never changed studs, only lost em while playing...also the sole plate will peel away from the leather long before the studs wear down (never had that problem either)...its simple and simple is good. Biggest problem with soccer (futbol) boots= sole plate separation (usually around the toe box)...thanks
Love the content 👌🏻😘
Studs get replaced because people don’t tighten them up enough and they loose them in games. In terms of wear and tear if you don’t do the 1 mile walk to the pitch along the concrete path then the grass pitch won’t wear your studs. To me it makes sense to change it and save some weight.
Counter argument, aftermarket brands also now offer screw in rubber studs, so rather than needing FG boots and SG boots for dry/wet pitches. I can just buy 1 pair of SG and change to rubbers when/if needed. The route nikes going down now, I'm going to have to purchase 2 pairs of boots if I want to wear the newest models?
@@KyleHudsonn Yea change to plastic for 3G 10mm from aluminium. They maybe Stainless steel but you not wearing these on 3G 4G an you play on expensive pitches. Just like blades even over certain age you can't wear astro because of AG what cost over £100,000 flattens the pitch
It’s made from a different material so it’s meant to last longer so you’ll replace the boot before the stud. Which I actually thinks a decent concept if it works out
I play rugby and for the most part I've only ever played in soft ground boots, I don't often need to change to the longer studs but like knowing it's an option if the field is drenched and I need more traction. In saying that I stopped wearing Nike a few years ago, I loved mercurials but they don't hold up when you're getting stepped on all game
Where I play the field can be wet one week dry the next, and we also play a lot of touch so I like having a set of plastic studs to swap out. Have never needed the long studs though
you have a very rugby player name as well
Hey Josh 😊 I think JayMike explained in his video on these a while back that the stud tips are a different metal (stainless steel?) so they would wear down a lot less.
Personally as someone who plays in the UK, i do sometimes get a to a point where it’s worth replacing the studs before the boots wear out in standard SG layouts. Thanks for the vid 😄
Actually most stainless steels are softer than normal (higher carbon content steels) Their advantage is that they are less prone to rust. They are more prone to wear, so lets hope they arent stainless or Nike really is doing a number on us to get us to change boots more often.
@@OffshoreNath Interesting, thanks mate
I don’t like the change. Metal studs not allowed where we play so i would swap out the metal for plastic screw in replacements and this takes that option away.
Yep my thoughts exactly, means having to buy 2 different stud formation boots if you want to wear the newest models!
definitely feel like Nike’s cheating their customer base out of options. They still make non Anti Clog, SG pro versions of boots that are only really available to pros or can be found through boot reselling websites. This SG pro soleplate seems to be the go to choice for most pros because the soleplate is a lot lighter and has interchangeable studs.
Okay. But do you wear SG boots regularly?
@@monkfish3099 probably not much, if any at all. You need friction to wear something down, especially something as tough as alloys. So the truth is, these studs would probably outlast the shoes themselves, as long as people don’t use it to go grocery shopping, running on asphalt, skateboarding, sand the like. 😅
And here’s another thing to think about: a lot of people, if not the vast majority aren’t trained to screw things. They don’t know that you can ruin the screw hole forever if you strip a screw. What people usually do is just go as tight as they possibly can, and a lot of things don’t take much force to strip a screw. So think about how many people ruin their shoes for good because of their lack of training. Then that would cost them another $200 or more to replace those shoes. If you take that part away you’re actually doing everyone a favor.
@@monkfish3099 I had to (well they were noticeably shorter than they had been) replace the metal studs on my daughter's soft ground boots so they can wear out before the boots. I suppose if you are religious about never walking on tarmac with them ...
Do non-ac tiempo 9s exist?
In the mercurial and tiempo the player edition soft ground boots are available to buy.
Back in the day Adidas had the Adidas Kaiser 5 Cup with replaceable studs (if I ‘m not wrong)
any plans in making longer pure socks?
I use anti clogs as a youth play and tbh if your using them on the right surface they aren't gonna wear out
Adidas did this with a pair of my predators years ago, they don't anymore. Maybe Nike will learn from those mistakes.
I didn't even know that football boots had SG FG and other types and the grounds that I would play in is not wet or muddy, its just normal grass. Do I have to get new boots or something?
Those Superfly IV look so good
Nice video 😎😎
He mentioned the studs getting worn down? How would that even happen is you only wear them on grass? I’ve worn fg my entire life and have never had my plastic studs get worn down playing 3-4 times a week both on turf and grass. Keep in mind I don’t wear them off the pitch
Honestly I don’t even get why they use metal for sg studs it the first place, I’d rather have a lighter weight full plastic sole plate with longer, more aggressive studs for sg. No other boots have replaceable studs so I don’t see it as a big deal for wear and tear. When I’m buying a top end boot I want it for the best performance possible so it doesn’t make sense to me to make it heavier than necessary. Especially considering sg soleplate are usually shaped slightly different than fg variations to accommodate the screw in studs, makes them feel different which I personally find annoying for the sake of continuity when switching from fg to ag to sg boots. Fg and ag boots usually feel similar but I’ve only ever had one pair of sg boots I actually liked the feel of compared to the fg version
A plastic stud that’s as long as the SG studs would have issues with breakage. They don’t make them out of metal just for fun.
@@Matt-nq4du tech with plastics have gotten way more advanced, I’m sure they could figure it out
@@jstgoalkeeping yeah maybe with glass fiber reinforced plastic but then it becomes a question of how that wears and how you get it to stick to the plastic on the rest of the sole plate. Or just stick with tried and true metal 🤷♂️
Pls review the Puma ultra 3.4 Jason pls
I was waiting for the this. Non removable studs. Look how many conversions ok that because they FG but you can change them, an that's the way around this buy FG an convert them. The studs wear out alot being aluminium alloy have to buy new boot's play in UK you playing in the winter. My son plays on 4G so wears AG an Soft ground Studs an changes length 10mm 13mm, you can buy plastic alloy studs for less weight bad idea Nike even being stainless steel.
Hey josh If you had the option between the x 19.1 and the puma ultra 2.3 what would you go for?
x 19.1
Are you able to play on 3G with those boots becaus it is a tiny bit of metal
Does anyone know when the black and green Neymar boots come out?
Will I be allowed to play on AG turf with those studs? I have the nike phantom gx elite with the anticlog metal tip studs and have a game this weekend on AG.
In Germany this isn't allowed
This isnt actually new Adidas did this with their 2nd tier boots back in the Pulsion and Absolado days. Where they had a blade with an metal blade tip moulded in. The issue was when they wore down after a while of using the boots.
Nikes probably betting on boots not being worn that long nowadays
They were take down models but yeah you're right. It's not being able to replace when worn down. Renders the boot probably useless when worn down which personally feel it's like a money making exercise
The Tiempo 9 Academy SG still has the "older" Anti Clog sole with replacable studs. Taking into consideration that I would use an SG boot only on a few occasions per year and It is kind of an special tool, it would be a much more reasonable deal to me. Unfortunately, they don't seem to include the 13/15mm replacement studs and the one's fitted arent full metal either.
What I additionally like is the tounge of the Academy boot, since it should be much easier cleanable. I wouldn't anyway feel to bad about them getting really dirty as I would with an expensive Elite model
Is there a cleat that most resembles the Messi 16+ Pureagility??
The new studs are actually made of stainless steel, hence why they're not changeable. They're designed to not wear down. I've worn mine for nearly 40 games now and they're still absolutely fine
they could still make the stainless steel studs removable if they wanted to. it's to generate more money
my phantom gx'es have the same studs and i dont know how to remove them
These companies provide and sell products not services, that being said, this "innovation" makes more sense to be classed as a tactic that serves the best interest of the business, generating more sales.
Metal SG studs dont wear down.How would metal wear out on dirt and grass ?The only reason youd ever replace SG studs is because the damn things come loose and fall out all thr time. Btw i wonder if Blue or red loctites would solve that ?
They wear down on any hard surface, changing rooms, tunnel etc, and can get sharp which becomes dangerous.
Why the studs have to be metal? Why don't they make them just plastic but longer?
These are amazing
I'll take the small weight savings over modularity that I don't use. Happy with this update
Tbh I thought only rugby players put the longer studs in their boots? As someone who plays in the UK my SG boots last about 3 seasons anyway as they're only worn from November- Feb and only for match days not training so only get about 12-15 games a year usage. Go straight bacn to FG as soon as possible as theyre more comfortable. This will make no difference to most players as long as they arent doing massive walks to the pitch in the studs 😂
Cost cutting measure by Nike for sure. I do not agree with what they've done this time. I hope my SF boots last for many more years cuz knowing If I buy some now I will have to buy new ones instead of replacing the studs, does not sit well with me
Thats why i like adidas more. In my opinion the better boots and they still have screw in studs and also they dont have anti clog wich in my opinion is completely unnecessary and makes the sole worse
Realistically the question should be with the quality, price and style of other brands like Puma and Mizuno why is anyone still over paying just to have the Nike swoosh?
for me i couldn´t find a Puma that would fit me, and mercurials are just perfect for my feet
I’ve never had to change studs because they’re too worn down. The issue is that the studs go missing while playing.
I’ve never gotten rid of a FG boot due to studs wearing down, usually the upper tears or cokes away from the sole plate.
So with SG boots having metal studs they won’t wear down any quicker than FG boots.
So for me is a bit more convenient because they won’t come out mid game
I am 35. I used to play seriously. I am a Saturday League player now. In all my years, I have never used or felt the need to use SG boots in my life, am I the only one? Yes, it rains where I'm from, and I've played in mud, maybe our fields were just great? I dunno.
Same, always used FG
Can you not just do a stud conversion
Getting slide tackled by these must hurt
If the studs are no longer removable, why make them with metal tips at all?
I’ve never used SG boots. Do those studs really wear down before the boot just breaks?
Yes the durability of mine (I’ve got the vapor 14) is very very good in my opinion. On the way from the changing room to the soccer field i go on socks to not damage my studs
@@nicoweigandt2335 ye but is it sg???
Hardly ever. Its actually very unlikely, if you are using SG in the right type of surface. Maybe if changing room to pitch is not carpeted there may be a concern …i mostly change into studs just at the sides of the pitch anyway
morming mr sir
Got them for $120. Cant go wrong I guess
Huge step back these are definitely not amazing
when you will bring back PLAY TEST
I wear SG boots for around 80% of my season. I think the new unremovable studs is not ideal and it definitely puts me off buying Nike sg boots. I like to change the length of my studs depending on how soft the ground is as when it’s really soft I’ll typically use 15mm studs in the forefoot and rear to get that extra bite. If it’s not nearly as soft I’ll go with 11 and 13mm. This season I’ve been using X19.1s as I really didn’t like the route Nike have gone down despite wanting to buy a pair of Nike SGs but I’ve managed to get a pair of superflys 7s with the custom SG pro layout so that’s what I’ll do from now on if I want a specific Nike SG boot, I’ll just buy them from and independent reseller who can get the SG pro layout👍
Liverpool!
By football you mean England football boots or
Thanks for trying the cleat made for mud and nasty conditions on a artificial carpet. Tells me absolutely nothing about its performance. Thanks for yapping tho
I think in the North American market this makes more sense
I think the point of changing the studs has nothing to do with wear and tear, but more so with being able to change up the height of the studs to suit the conditions/sport you play. Nike are cheap bastards for this one
Anti-clog is as gimmicky tech as is all-condition control. Just tools to justify higher pricepoints without giving truly valuable improvements.
Disagree. Its not as groundbreaking as Nike claims but in my experience they dont clock up as much as other sg boots
Anti-Clog is probably one of, if not the most effective technology in football boots! As the name suggests, they don’t clog up with mud like a normal plastic soleplate does.
ACC is such a stupid concept, how is the shoe supposed to help in controlling the ball?
Am i the only one who thinks that topprice Foorballboots should last longer then half a season?
Like ever
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