@ I'm not accusing either way, if I knew for sure that I wasn't guilty of anything, I would still have an attorney building my lawsuit against the false accusation and those that made the statements against me.
That's how you know this is BS, and he's innocent. Lawrence's are turning out to be trashy people. Great racers, not so great human beings. Sure didn't take long for them to forget where they came from, huh!?
@@mikehoncho73637 technically true, but if you’ve never been deposed before, lawyers will twist every, single, word, you say to make you look bad. Whether it’s a criminal or civil case, it’s best to assume everything you say publicly will be used against you. Just food for thought.
The Lawrence family isn’t stupid. They know what breach of contract and bad faith means and costs them in court. There’s no way they would take the risk unless they were given proof of misappropriation of money. I’m not buying into this nonsense.
Give me one good reason why the Lawrence family could benefit from making this up. If they wanted to fire him they are free to do so for any reason or no reason at all. Suggesting they did it for publicity is insane. Who would want this type of publicity and if there’s anything the Lawrence’s are lacking it sure isn’t publicity
Everyone was on that plane apparently and we’ve heard abt this list for 5 years now with no real evidence to back it up. At this point Jeffery’s island bs is just to keep us distracted any time we start questioning what’s going on
I agree that he seemed to be also divorced from the truth, especially in light of the paperwork being published. But even in these comments alone you still find individuals eating his story up. I can only imagine what's going on on some other motocross reporting channels.
I think theyve gone public because they dont want anyone dealing with lucas thinking hes still their rep to try limit the potential for further damages. This is big and i genuinely dont think they are making this up. Its way too big to be a made up thing
Guilty or not, the way it was just announced to him thru social media and not a phone call or at the very least an email was incredibly unprofessional. Guilty or not, they've just thrown Lucas to the wolves and now they've just put it on the public to make their judgement on him when we don't have anymore information to go off of. If he isn't guilty, I do not see how anyone in this position could possibly recover. His professional life has been ruined thru a social media post.
@@BuzzMXB Do you understand what he's accused of? Stealing hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars from his clients. "Professionalism" goes out the window when you do something like that.
@BuzzMXB , yes, if he is innocent, then this is still really bad for him. But the Lawrences don't think he is innocent. If you steal lots of money from me, I don't care about your feelings or being "professional." That makes no sense. That's like being respectful to a burglar you just caught in your house. No way. If you steal from me, you are a criminal, and I don't care who you are. That being said, if he turns out to be innocent, the Lawrences will have a really hard time finding fans. They will also have a lot of issues to deal with. Namely the monster lawsuit they will definitely lose against him.
They wouldn’t have done this to him unless he’s done something really really bad, they wouldn’t just do it for something minor because he was so close to the family they would have just talked to him.. it must be pretty extreme.. time will tell all truths
By all reports it was a fair amount of money, no way in the world a billion dollar company who would have lawyers in there cupboards would put out a statement accusing him of this without solid proof, nor would the Lawrence's and leaving them open for a big lawsuit, mirtl is doing what every thief does when they get busted, claim they have done nothing wrong and make out they have no idea what's going on, he has bad form with jwr racing, Josh Grant, Dean and others, so its no surprise to hear this, he isnt very smart or ignoring lawyers advice or hasn't got one yet and flapping his mouth off freely, but that's what they do when caught out.
Im so happy these kids are paying attention to their money. Don't let these scammers steal your hard earned gains. Always hire two lawyers when you have money, one to watch the money and the other to watch the lawyer watching the money. That's a quote from a one hit wonder who got all their money taken.
It would have been extremely tone deaf to do so, given who's on the line and the means of their conversation in the first place. There's an appropriate time and place for everything. There's a reason police don't call next of kin and say "Hey so and so, this phone call is brought to you by you and your neighbors tax dollars. Oh and by the way, your loved one is in the ICU with mere minutes left to live, please make your way to the ER quickly."
@ so you think that wasserman figured out that Lawrence’s money was missing before the Lawrence’s did ? I guarantee you Lawrence’s figured it out and contacted wasserman with the evidence and they fired him
Strikes me as odd he carried the pouty tone throughout the entire conversation and had his kid in the background the whole time. Seemed a bit convenient, if not planned, to try and garner support/sympathy. All other interviews I've heard of him he was the complete opposite of that and spoke highly of his approach and professionalism. Who knows, maybe Wasserman planned his exit for "keeping the money" and forced Lawrence family to bend the knee. Maybe there is some funky stuff Lucas was up to. Time will tell. If Lucas has a case, Wasserman will settle, and Lucas will release a statement saying they "came to an agreement" and he's happily moving forward.
In case you didnt know he is going thru what is said to be a fresh and brutal divorce. So add on these public accusations / allegations I don't think you would be a happy and chipper guy either.
@@merccrewlcab2385 I can empathize with that. My opinion doesn't change with that added information. I wouldn't have gone on the show if I was in that state. Also, my opinion doesn't matter. It's simply my interpretation of the facts as they stand today. If he has a case I'm sure it'll work it's way out in court.
Alot of holes in what he is saying.he said he found out threw social media.yet he made a statement that he received a letter and a email stating he was terminated.so something stinks
@merccrewlcab2385 i get that but he gave a statement at noonish and said he got notified later. Not much time passed. Im thinking he got notified and did fallout control saying he didn't know and wasn't notified and blah blah
It’s a known fact Women pick up on what’sright or wrong….get your misses to listen to this without explaining it. If you were innocent you would be screaming the house down”they can all get Farked I did not do this” This is the tone of a guilty person. Trying to explain is something a guilty person does. He needs to shut up and let his lawyer do the talking.
You certainly make women sound extremely judgmental and out of touch with reality. People who deal with chronic back pain aren't screaming and crying 24/7 to make sure their case of pain is legitimate. Lucas, guilty or not, is conducting himself well on a phone call that is being listened to LIVE ON THE INTERNET BY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. Get a clue Karen.
@@TroyMcGennisken Agreed myself, but may be looking a little to deep into nuances. I'm sure his focus isn't 100 percent. Safe to say he loves kids, no? This is about something else completely. I hope truth comes out, either way. Lawrence's didn't go about this correctly, at all. Shows what kind of peeps they are. Money can't buy class.
@@Tony-qn4gm Nope, I just know trash when I see it. Could care less who it is. Trash is trash. Scumbags with their lil soyboy fan club. You sound gay sticking up for other men so intensely. Wonder how many photos you have up of them in your room. 3, 4??? Weird.
Steve you should have NEVER got involved, you don't have the facts, your putting yourself in the middle, your gonna loose the Lawrence trust, you crossed the line...
I get that we all want to see this sorted but this doesnt help.An honest man and a liar will give the same answer. Let's see proof before talking about this any further
When ya have to scream from the rooftops you are innocent... you are lying. Innocent people just say it will get all sorted out and go about their business of doing just that. Great Salesman usually get consumed by their delusion. It's what makes them great salesman.
im not taking his side but for him to go about his business is just wrong, his whole career has been destroyed so if he is the one in the right then its a good idea to clear your name asap
Hey Mattes, you going to have Lucas Mirtl back this week now that the official court documents have been filed. It certainly would make for an interesting show after last week's denials. Seems there is significant evidence being produced by the Lawrence brothers that refutes everythin Lucas has said from the onset of this matter.
Innocent or guilty, it comes down to what you can prove in court. Proving your innocence can get costly. If Mirtl was blindsided by the firing, then he would have a tough climb to clear his name. Corporate litigation is a dirty game.
Assuming there’s any charges against him. They could be full of shit and it stops here. And if they don’t it will be him taking them to court as a employer breech of contract
@@jackrobertson7888it's civil at this point, fighting it will cost money. But I find it hard to believe Lawrence's/lawyers would accuse him of such theft without proof of it. Bank statements and spending of money on his divorce is pretty clearly not on behalf of the Lawrences.
@@infidelmat The Lawrence bros are small fish to Wasserman compared to some of their huge clients like Klay Thompson and SGA from the OKC Thunder. They also rep MLB stars current and former like Chipper Jones and Jason Giambi too. But you're right the facts have to come out or it's just finger pointing. Talent agencies can be pretty underhanded, but agents can be too...I dont know either personally so its impossible to say at this point.
In all the interviews Mirtl has done on this case he has been very vague. He stammers around and speaks in broad generalities. He does not sound credible. He could go down the list and address every charge, but he hasn't and shouldn't. But he will when this goes to trial.
Timing is sus. Before massive deal with draftkings? Idk 🤷♂️ but also. Listening to the guy doesnt sound like hes confident. He might have used funds for somthing thats bot criminal but yet gave wasserman group easy way to fire him. Now someone else has his golden goose... goodluck
Ongoing investigation and no longer works for Lawrence's. If he is going thru a divorce, this seems like a ploy to keep his money. Can't blame him there.
Amazing people just don’t accuse others of stealing, especially people that were this close unless there is something going on. Too much at stake for the Lawrence’s.
None of this makes any sense. Way more to the story. Chicken shit move on the Lawrence side for airing this in public without first meeting in private.
Lawrence Brothers posted on Instagram that their agent is fired because he stole money, the agent says he didn't. Either way I feel Lawrence Brothers need some public relations help because all the drama and Instagram posts were unnecessary.
Actually Steve, just the opposite (having worked with Agencies for a couple of decades) they can be brutally manipulative and less than honest. Won't be surprised if the Agency didn't orchestrate this and both Lawrences & Mirtl somewhat the victims, for such.
WOW Steve you've always been nosey but i never took you for stupid until today. Taking his side over the Lawrence's was pathetic. Its none of your business
He seems devastated to me. No matter his history they screwed him over by sending it out to press. That’s vindictive and career ruining! Attempts anyway…
what the fuck is he supposed to do? You suggest that all media gargle the ball sack of professional athletes? Fucking kangaroo court....literally in this case.
Steve say the drama overshadowed the race so what does he do put more fuel on the drama fire 😂😂🤦🏻♂. How many times can Steve say friend in one interview? There are people that get fired all the time with little or no notice. Take your business up like everyone else does don’t play the PR card. Heck, look at all the people moron Trump fired with notice. In situations like this most any company doesn’t give you a notice. Heck, most won’t even let you in the building. If you don’t like how you got fired then quit doing what you got fired for or show that is was done incorrectly. Heck, do you know how many right to work states there are where they don’t even have to give you a reason? You show up to work and they tell you that you don’t have a job it’s a simple as that. People talking about lawsuits for slander and everything are both hilarious and clueless. Most of the time the guilty people talk the most LOL. Move past the drama Steve.
First instinct was as Lucas said, we can only go off the information plastered all over youtube channels! That said after getting the Faceplant updates from him and hearing him on this episode, I'm not judging and I feel for him and his family at this point! This is now getting very awkward for all, and no one comes off clean when these situations are played out like this regardless which is why there is a process to follow, it protects all parties, until facts are facts! What ever the truth (if we get that these days) no one including the Lawrence's are going to come out clean on this! Because I had so much respect for them and esp Dazzie and Mom, I went with it, now I'm Switzerland. And I'm nervous about that since I'm a big fan! And another reason and crack from them, that you don't play in this pool, when you have an agent, agency let them get the blood on themselves don't get involved, because now they have crap all over them too, right or wrong, shit sticks! I believe in innocence to proven guilty, but these days what is the truth, I doing trust mainstream media anymore only sheep follow them, sheep get slaughtered smiling up the ramp, humans no different, they think they are, but reality is like sheep! Social media does condemn people quick! No one likes money esp big sums or allegedly, so we jump on that quick, same with peds or rapists'! We do need to stop being led and mislead and wait for facts, but the truth is will we get that? I really hope he's not setup or has mis directed anything, can hear it in his voice, I really hope for a good outcome, but, powerful forces at play here! people die for less! I hope it gets sorted properly! 🙄
As for the Lawerence brother’s constant drama this time the agent. If someone stole my money, I wouldn’t be releasing ANY statement I’d let the cops and legal system do my talking so something is amiss. This involves high profile athletes and I would assume large sum of money the FBI would have set a trap and handled it all and told the Lawerence’s to keep their mouths shut. It’s very suspicious. But also a reminder of keep family and business separate, they called him family, there you have it. Just wait three years when their Honda contract is up there is no way Honda is resigning both brothers with one in 7th in points. Hunter is sick of being second fiddle and pissed off all his money on a fleet of supercars requiring huge sums of money to insure and maintain. He is pissing off money quicker than Johnny Manziel. And a bigger flop than Manziel as well. In 3 years or so we will see just how close that family unit really is or of they turn on each other like the hyenas they really are. It was less than 90 days ago they got Deegan and Anderson Australian SX start money pulled and now in the news again with the agent. Where there is smoke there is fire. Here is my theory on the agent deal. He was with them from day one when they were zero, he was instrumental getting them to hero’s, was getting a 1.5 million salary, once at the top he was no longer needed and 1.5 million is another supercar a year for Hunter so he was eliminated as unethically and unprofessionally as the Lawrences handled Deegan and Anderson going to Australia. And I listened to Myrtl on pulpmx. My message to him. Sounded like you had been drinking, who wouldn’t be, but that was your mulligan, pull it together. Sue the brat brothers form down under for slander for starters. You will weather the storm, this will be settled out of court, nothing criminal occurred or you would already be in handcuffs. It was a cost cutting, ego driven, stupid, unloyal, unethical, unprofessional move on their part. A few years youll look back and thank God you’re out of that viper den. You’ll either have new clients or find a new calling your obviously an intelligent and creative person with personality or the Lawerence’s would not be where they are. Drinking won’t help anything IF you in fact had been drinking so knock it off a DWI or some domestic nonsense involving the cops is the last thing you need. Man up for your kid don’t let him see you worry, there isn’t anything to worry about you will land on your feet, you’ll miss one season.
Agents aren't supppsed to be front and center cause the business incentive system gets wonky. Who knows what happened here but it seems easy to believe that with all of jetts revanue streams he actually just thought money was his cause they were partners
Knowing how money turns people, it wouldn't surpise me if that was the case. But any result won't be a surpise for me. You can't trust anyone when it comes to money.
If he'd been such a huge criminal wouldn't he already be in jail I mean come on looks like the Lawrence's got a birdy in their ear and were trying to save money also
Buddy if they had all this evidence waaserman is required by law to hand all of it over to the police/fbi, thenjustice system is no longer innocent until proven otherwise, its guilty until proven innocent@@carladamcarter
Every Aussie does, a lot of Mericans do, it's only deegan fans boys that oblivious to greatness, could be the moonshine in the deep south that fogs their judgement😂
I hope lucus is found not guilty of any allegations an the Lawrence family get sued massively I wouldn't trust the Lawrence's at all an if they lied they need to be kicked out of the sport
He is crazy for talking openly about anything, guilty or not he should only be making statements with an attorney.
If he's guilty of something yeah. But if you legitimately didn't do anything wrong you can openly defend yourself with nothing to worry about
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I'm not accusing either way, if I knew for sure that I wasn't guilty of anything, I would still have an attorney building my lawsuit against the false accusation and those that made the statements against me.
That's how you know this is BS, and he's innocent.
Lawrence's are turning out to be trashy people. Great racers, not so great human beings.
Sure didn't take long for them to forget where they came from, huh!?
@@mikehoncho73637 technically true, but if you’ve never been deposed before, lawyers will twist every, single, word, you say to make you look bad. Whether it’s a criminal or civil case, it’s best to assume everything you say publicly will be used against you. Just food for thought.
@JohnnyRingo412 Agreed. There is a reason people are tight lipped.
Steve repeatedly says "We're friends , I consider you a friend , we're friends , maybe not best friends but friends" while Lucas remains silent LOL.
they must have different sleep numbers!
Wasserman does not put out a statement like that without legally and contractually having done their due diligence. This guy is clearly guilty.
The Lawrence family isn’t stupid. They know what breach of contract and bad faith means and costs them in court. There’s no way they would take the risk unless they were given proof of misappropriation of money. I’m not buying into this nonsense.
Right or wrong his career won't survive this
Hmmmm not looking good for him
I mean it could if he proves his innocence but he already sounds defeated.
Give me one good reason why the Lawrence family could benefit from making this up. If they wanted to fire him they are free to do so for any reason or no reason at all. Suggesting they did it for publicity is insane. Who would want this type of publicity and if there’s anything the Lawrence’s are lacking it sure isn’t publicity
If it's anyone's fault other than Lucas's, it's on the Wasserman Group. The Lawrence family is just being told what the Group's findings are.
Money. The only reason
@ no. Absolutely not. How can they get money from this? I’m pretty sure money is the only other thing they aren’t lacking 😂
1.7 million dollars
Remember casey wasserman(the ceo of wasserman) was on epsteins plane. Multiple ties to jeffy. Who knows the real deal. Sketchy all around.
Did it stop you from voting for Trump?
Is that You Cooksey?😅
@@gibso9395 cooksey?
@@natel7382 lmao muh "brain worms"
Everyone was on that plane apparently and we’ve heard abt this list for 5 years now with no real evidence to back it up. At this point Jeffery’s island bs is just to keep us distracted any time we start questioning what’s going on
Mertle is not cognisant of how transparent his bullsh*t is to other people.
I agree that he seemed to be also divorced from the truth, especially in light of the paperwork being published. But even in these comments alone you still find individuals eating his story up. I can only imagine what's going on on some other motocross reporting channels.
I think theyve gone public because they dont want anyone dealing with lucas thinking hes still their rep to try limit the potential for further damages. This is big and i genuinely dont think they are making this up. Its way too big to be a made up thing
If he is guilty, of course he was blindsided. They would owe him no courtesy at this point. Hopefully, we find out what happened though. Crazy stuff.
Guilty or not, the way it was just announced to him thru social media and not a phone call or at the very least an email was incredibly unprofessional. Guilty or not, they've just thrown Lucas to the wolves and now they've just put it on the public to make their judgement on him when we don't have anymore information to go off of. If he isn't guilty, I do not see how anyone in this position could possibly recover. His professional life has been ruined thru a social media post.
@@BuzzMXB Do you understand what he's accused of? Stealing hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars from his clients. "Professionalism" goes out the window when you do something like that.
@BuzzMXB , yes, if he is innocent, then this is still really bad for him. But the Lawrences don't think he is innocent. If you steal lots of money from me, I don't care about your feelings or being "professional." That makes no sense. That's like being respectful to a burglar you just caught in your house. No way. If you steal from me, you are a criminal, and I don't care who you are. That being said, if he turns out to be innocent, the Lawrences will have a really hard time finding fans. They will also have a lot of issues to deal with. Namely the monster lawsuit they will definitely lose against him.
They wouldn’t have done this to him unless he’s done something really really bad, they wouldn’t just do it for something minor because he was so close to the family they would have just talked to him.. it must be pretty extreme.. time will tell all truths
By all reports it was a fair amount of money, no way in the world a billion dollar company who would have lawyers in there cupboards would put out a statement accusing him of this without solid proof, nor would the Lawrence's and leaving them open for a big lawsuit, mirtl is doing what every thief does when they get busted, claim they have done nothing wrong and make out they have no idea what's going on, he has bad form with jwr racing, Josh Grant, Dean and others, so its no surprise to hear this, he isnt very smart or ignoring lawyers advice or hasn't got one yet and flapping his mouth off freely, but that's what they do when caught out.
Really look how they have treated Jo through the years
@@waynecaudle2204 oh and how have they treated Jo?
Im so happy these kids are paying attention to their money. Don't let these scammers steal your hard earned gains. Always hire two lawyers when you have money, one to watch the money and the other to watch the lawyer watching the money. That's a quote from a one hit wonder who got all their money taken.
First interview without Steve saying 'brougth to you by ... '.
It would have been extremely tone deaf to do so, given who's on the line and the means of their conversation in the first place. There's an appropriate time and place for everything. There's a reason police don't call next of kin and say "Hey so and so, this phone call is brought to you by you and your neighbors tax dollars. Oh and by the way, your loved one is in the ICU with mere minutes left to live, please make your way to the ER quickly."
He actually did do a sponsor read before this interview but they cut it out of this clip lmao
@lukevenable356 ja sorry I miss that. Thanks for the info.
guilty
Lawrence’s wouldn’t mistake up one day and decide to do this for no reason . They must have some good evidence of wrongdoing
The Lawrence family is going off of what the Wasserman Group is telling them.
@ so you think that wasserman figured out that Lawrence’s money was missing before the Lawrence’s did ? I guarantee you Lawrence’s figured it out and contacted wasserman with the evidence and they fired him
@@BuzzMXB Yeah, this is what I'm thinking is happening. Whether it's true or not, time will tell. But Wasserman is driving this.
" I was completely blindsided that they figured out that i had stolen from them". LM I still don't know how they knew. Right.
Guilty, Lawrences wouldn't do this unless there was blatent theft. This guy sounds guilty as hell.
He is doing what every thief does when they get caught, im innocent, I've done nothing wrong.
As they would say in Australia “he’s dodgy “
Strikes me as odd he carried the pouty tone throughout the entire conversation and had his kid in the background the whole time. Seemed a bit convenient, if not planned, to try and garner support/sympathy. All other interviews I've heard of him he was the complete opposite of that and spoke highly of his approach and professionalism. Who knows, maybe Wasserman planned his exit for "keeping the money" and forced Lawrence family to bend the knee. Maybe there is some funky stuff Lucas was up to. Time will tell. If Lucas has a case, Wasserman will settle, and Lucas will release a statement saying they "came to an agreement" and he's happily moving forward.
Let's being a bit dramatic, and looking a little bit too deep into something😂.
In case you didnt know he is going thru what is said to be a fresh and brutal divorce. So add on these public accusations / allegations I don't think you would be a happy and chipper guy either.
@@merccrewlcab2385 I can empathize with that. My opinion doesn't change with that added information. I wouldn't have gone on the show if I was in that state. Also, my opinion doesn't matter. It's simply my interpretation of the facts as they stand today. If he has a case I'm sure it'll work it's way out in court.
He's a father.
@@stampylove point proven.
Didn’t sound like an innocent man imo, but we’re going to find out eventually.
I agree. The poor me attitude is usually an indicator of guilt.
Alot of holes in what he is saying.he said he found out threw social media.yet he made a statement that he received a letter and a email stating he was terminated.so something stinks
Let's not forget he is going through a nasty divorce
You’re probably smelling whatever is trapped underneath your space bar.
Theres nothing fishy about that at all. Saw it on social media and Was served paperwork soon after. No mystery my man.😅
From what I understand he saw it on social media before he was sent the email or served papers from Wasserman.
@merccrewlcab2385 i get that but he gave a statement at noonish and said he got notified later. Not much time passed. Im thinking he got notified and did fallout control saying he didn't know and wasn't notified and blah blah
It’s a known fact Women pick up on what’sright or wrong….get your misses to listen to this without explaining it.
If you were innocent you would be screaming the house down”they can all get Farked I did not do this”
This is the tone of a guilty person.
Trying to explain is something a guilty person does.
He needs to shut up and let his lawyer do the talking.
all the single moms in society today tell me women cant "pick up" on a damn thing. Not sure i buy into your theory...
Women literally do not "pick up on what's right and wrong." They, as a group, are the least trustworthy group in that regard.
You certainly make women sound extremely judgmental and out of touch with reality. People who deal with chronic back pain aren't screaming and crying 24/7 to make sure their case of pain is legitimate. Lucas, guilty or not, is conducting himself well on a phone call that is being listened to LIVE ON THE INTERNET BY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. Get a clue Karen.
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Anyone else find it weird that he only mentions his son, not his wife or daughter?
Divorcing.. no need to mention his wife.
@@unstoppableplayz6948 ok, no mention of his daughter then just his son that he needs to support.. does he not support his daughter?
@@TroyMcGennisken Agreed myself, but may be looking a little to deep into nuances.
I'm sure his focus isn't 100 percent. Safe to say he loves kids, no?
This is about something else completely.
I hope truth comes out, either way. Lawrence's didn't go about this correctly, at all.
Shows what kind of peeps they are.
Money can't buy class.
@@unstoppableplayz6948I bet if any other rider was in these circumstances you would be praising them for “keeping it real” and being transparent.
@@Tony-qn4gm Nope, I just know trash when I see it.
Could care less who it is.
Trash is trash.
Scumbags with their lil soyboy fan club. You sound gay sticking up for other men so intensely. Wonder how many photos you have up of them in your room. 3, 4???
Weird.
Steve you should have NEVER got involved, you don't have the facts, your putting yourself in the middle, your gonna loose the Lawrence trust, you crossed the line...
It's guys like Steve/media job to cover this
They already don't like Steve lmao. They refused to be interviewed by him for a while.
Steve and Pulp were around long before the Lawrences and will be here long after.
Naw this is the biggest story in the sport . Let's just pretend it never happened? That's why your unsuccessful and Steve has high ceilings
I get that we all want to see this sorted but this doesnt help.An honest man and a liar will give the same answer.
Let's see proof before talking about this any further
I mean we leanrt nothing ...
Wheres the facts about what is actually alleged??????
All smoke and mirrorsnat this points.
I mean.... when something moves into the justice system like this, you need to remain silent publicly. What is this dude doing?
When ya have to scream from the rooftops you are innocent... you are lying.
Innocent people just say it will get all sorted out and go about their business of doing just that.
Great Salesman usually get consumed by their delusion. It's what makes them great salesman.
im not taking his side but for him to go about his business is just wrong, his whole career has been destroyed so if he is the one in the right then its a good idea to clear your name asap
Does one interview “screams from rooftop”.
Hey Mattes, you going to have Lucas Mirtl back this week now that the official court documents have been filed. It certainly would make for an interesting show after last week's denials. Seems there is significant evidence being produced by the Lawrence brothers that refutes everythin Lucas has said from the onset of this matter.
Innocent or guilty, it comes down to what you can prove in court. Proving your innocence can get costly. If Mirtl was blindsided by the firing, then he would have a tough climb to clear his name. Corporate litigation is a dirty game.
Assuming there’s any charges against him. They could be full of shit and it stops here. And if they don’t it will be him taking them to court as a employer breech of contract
@@jackrobertson7888it's civil at this point, fighting it will cost money. But I find it hard to believe Lawrence's/lawyers would accuse him of such theft without proof of it. Bank statements and spending of money on his divorce is pretty clearly not on behalf of the Lawrences.
Biggest issue guilty or innocent he will have to have 2 million to fight WMG. Unless he can find attorney to take on contingency, which isn’t a layup
Thief boi is pouty, oh nooo
It's hard to imagine the Lawrences not having some kind of face to face with him about the issues.
You should have taken my calls, looks like your career is done in Moto! Nice job MATE
Steve I give you credit. This was a great interview
He’s clearly guilty both sides fired him
Not clear at all, Wasserman would have no choice due to the Lawrence clout. Wasserman is a shark, no loyalty, all bottom line.
@@infidelmat The Lawrence bros are small fish to Wasserman compared to some of their huge clients like Klay Thompson and SGA from the OKC Thunder. They also rep MLB stars current and former like Chipper Jones and Jason Giambi too. But you're right the facts have to come out or it's just finger pointing. Talent agencies can be pretty underhanded, but agents can be too...I dont know either personally so its impossible to say at this point.
Are you that simple?
One side fired him
@@infidelmat Of course he would have a choice 🤦🏻♂🤦🏻♂🤡Do you know how much larger they are then the Lawrence’s?
We’re you cold Steve cuz your taking heat for this one lol
Steve this is great reporting, this guy needs to get off your show, and get a lawyer ASAP.
In all the interviews Mirtl has done on this case he has been very vague. He stammers around and speaks in broad generalities.
He does not sound credible. He could go down the list and address every charge, but he hasn't and shouldn't. But he will when this goes to trial.
Timing is sus. Before massive deal with draftkings? Idk 🤷♂️ but also. Listening to the guy doesnt sound like hes confident. He might have used funds for somthing thats bot criminal but yet gave wasserman group easy way to fire him. Now someone else has his golden goose... goodluck
You got in the wrong camp what were you thinking, JT stay away from this mess
Ongoing investigation and no longer works for Lawrence's. If he is going thru a divorce, this seems like a ploy to keep his money. Can't blame him there.
Amazing people just don’t accuse others of stealing, especially people that were this close unless there is something going on. Too much at stake for the Lawrence’s.
I recall Marion Jones and Lance Armstrong using the same exact words that Mirtle is using !
None of this makes any sense. Way more to the story. Chicken shit move on the Lawrence side for airing this in public without first meeting in private.
They guy sounds genuinely shook up. As an individual, im not gonna listen to the court of public opinion. Lets see what the legal process determines.
idk anything about the guy but if he is innocent he should sue them for defamation of character among other things
Im sorry ive been out of the game, but what were the allegations? Thanks
Lawrence Brothers posted on Instagram that their agent is fired because he stole money, the agent says he didn't.
Either way I feel Lawrence Brothers need some public relations help because all the drama and Instagram posts were unnecessary.
@Matt18880 that guy always seemed a little odd. Good
He gets the blame for Hunter steeling Jetts bonuses to fuel his crack habit. Remember where you heard it first...
Actually Steve, just the opposite (having worked with Agencies for a couple of decades) they can be brutally manipulative and less than honest. Won't be surprised if the Agency didn't orchestrate this and both Lawrences & Mirtl somewhat the victims, for such.
WOW Steve you've always been nosey but i never took you for stupid until today. Taking his side over the Lawrence's was pathetic. Its none of your business
He’s literally the top dog for the biggest independent moto journalist. It’s entirely within his wheelhouse.
Not a steve fan but he is not picking sides. Lawrence‘s don’t answer him back for an interview so why not.
I've never heard so much guilty rambling in my life...
Did I miss something? Did he take his side or just kinda let him talk?
Should have left the cookies in the cookie jar
If hes innocent, then the "fake/setup" proof that they showed the Lawrences must be damming, either way fake or real proof i think hes done.
He seems devastated to me. No matter his history they screwed him over by sending it out to press. That’s vindictive and career ruining! Attempts anyway…
Of course he’s devastated. His money train is gone.
This man is COOKED
Wow very fruitful interview, what did you learn nothing, you gonna loose rider trust, what does he do for you vs what the riders do for you.. dumb a__
what the fuck is he supposed to do? You suggest that all media gargle the ball sack of professional athletes? Fucking kangaroo court....literally in this case.
Publicity stuns called it pfffff grow up
Steve say the drama overshadowed the race so what does he do put more fuel on the drama fire 😂😂🤦🏻♂. How many times can Steve say friend in one interview? There are people that get fired all the time with little or no notice. Take your business up like everyone else does don’t play the PR card. Heck, look at all the people moron Trump fired with notice. In situations like this most any company doesn’t give you a notice. Heck, most won’t even let you in the building. If you don’t like how you got fired then quit doing what you got fired for or show that is was done incorrectly. Heck, do you know how many right to work states there are where they don’t even have to give you a reason? You show up to work and they tell you that you don’t have a job it’s a simple as that. People talking about lawsuits for slander and everything are both hilarious and clueless. Most of the time the guilty people talk the most LOL. Move past the drama Steve.
Either side need to come with some receipts
First instinct was as Lucas said, we can only go off the information plastered all over youtube channels!
That said after getting the Faceplant updates from him and hearing him on this episode, I'm not judging and I feel for him and his family at this point!
This is now getting very awkward for all, and no one comes off clean when these situations are played out like this regardless which is why there is a process to follow, it protects all parties, until facts are facts!
What ever the truth (if we get that these days) no one including the Lawrence's are going to come out clean on this!
Because I had so much respect for them and esp Dazzie and Mom, I went with it, now I'm Switzerland. And I'm nervous about that since I'm a big fan!
And another reason and crack from them, that you don't play in this pool, when you have an agent, agency let them get the blood on themselves don't get involved, because now they have crap all over them too, right or wrong, shit sticks!
I believe in innocence to proven guilty, but these days what is the truth, I doing trust mainstream media anymore only sheep follow them, sheep get slaughtered smiling up the ramp, humans no different, they think they are, but reality is like sheep!
Social media does condemn people quick! No one likes money esp big sums or allegedly, so we jump on that quick, same with peds or rapists'! We do need to stop being led and mislead and wait for facts, but the truth is will we get that?
I really hope he's not setup or has mis directed anything, can hear it in his voice, I really hope for a good outcome, but, powerful forces at play here! people die for less!
I hope it gets sorted properly! 🙄
is Uncle Steve thinning down???
He's on cousin ozempic
As for the Lawerence brother’s constant drama this time the agent. If someone stole my money, I wouldn’t be releasing ANY statement I’d let the cops and legal system do my talking so something is amiss. This involves high profile athletes and I would assume large sum of money the FBI would have set a trap and handled it all and told the Lawerence’s to keep their mouths shut. It’s very suspicious. But also a reminder of keep family and business separate, they called him family, there you have it. Just wait three years when their Honda contract is up there is no way Honda is resigning both brothers with one in 7th in points. Hunter is sick of being second fiddle and pissed off all his money on a fleet of supercars requiring huge sums of money to insure and maintain. He is pissing off money quicker than Johnny Manziel. And a bigger flop than Manziel as well. In 3 years or so we will see just how close that family unit really is or of they turn on each other like the hyenas they really are. It was less than 90 days ago they got Deegan and Anderson Australian SX start money pulled and now in the news again with the agent. Where there is smoke there is fire.
Here is my theory on the agent deal. He was with them from day one when they were zero, he was instrumental getting them to hero’s, was getting a 1.5 million salary, once at the top he was no longer needed and 1.5 million is another supercar a year for Hunter so he was eliminated as unethically and unprofessionally as the Lawrences handled Deegan and Anderson going to Australia.
And I listened to Myrtl on pulpmx. My message to him. Sounded like you had been drinking, who wouldn’t be, but that was your mulligan, pull it together. Sue the brat brothers form down under for slander for starters. You will weather the storm, this will be settled out of court, nothing criminal occurred or you would already be in handcuffs. It was a cost cutting, ego driven, stupid, unloyal, unethical, unprofessional move on their part. A few years youll look back and thank God you’re out of that viper den. You’ll either have new clients or find a new calling your obviously an intelligent and creative person with personality or the Lawerence’s would not be where they are.
Drinking won’t help anything IF you in fact had been drinking so knock it off a DWI or some domestic nonsense involving the cops is the last thing you need. Man up for your kid don’t let him see you worry, there isn’t anything to worry about you will land on your feet, you’ll miss one season.
He really sounds confident he's innocent
Agents aren't supppsed to be front and center cause the business incentive system gets wonky.
Who knows what happened here but it seems easy to believe that with all of jetts revanue streams he actually just thought money was his cause they were partners
I'm on his side . As someone who's been in the industry most my life i think the way was handled was so disrespectful. Heads up bud
So if someone steals from you they deserve your respect? 😂
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did anyone get anything out of this???
They found out he voted for the Don
So did 80 percent of the US😂. The normal citizens.
how can a non american even vote?
Poor guy, I hope it gets sorted out.
Steve, good job on getting interview but nobody believes your words. That is sad in my opinion. Lucas's truth will be showed elsewhere.
Chris cookie punching air rn
Y’all are obsessed with the man you say you dislike , and bring him up any chance you can get .
Tin hat crazy conspiracy Cooksey 😂
Cooksey is cooked, he spoke with mirtl then bad mouthed the Lawrence's and Wasserman, he even hinted Wasserman and feld were involved in it all 😂
Lawrence boys better be right on this ,there already starting to be hated
Yea I’m not sure they are squeaky clean on their end. Just a feeling money changes people.
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It’s was the Lawrence’s parents they had to blame someone!!!!
Knowing how money turns people, it wouldn't surpise me if that was the case. But any result won't be a surpise for me. You can't trust anyone when it comes to money.
Clueless
If he'd been such a huge criminal wouldn't he already be in jail I mean come on looks like the Lawrence's got a birdy in their ear and were trying to save money also
Tell me you don’t know anything about civil, employment, or criminal law without telling me.
Or spelling.
So you're an internet lawyer huh? What's that pay a year now? 🤡 and I guess spelling bee champ too
😂😂🤦🏻♂
Buddy if they had all this evidence waaserman is required by law to hand all of it over to the police/fbi, thenjustice system is no longer innocent until proven otherwise, its guilty until proven innocent@@carladamcarter
Does anyone actually like the Lawrences?
Yeah. A lot of us are fans of great riders.
no
Absolutely you obviously don’t go to races clu
yeah ,most of us Aussies do
Every Aussie does, a lot of Mericans do, it's only deegan fans boys that oblivious to greatness, could be the moonshine in the deep south that fogs their judgement😂
I hope lucus is found not guilty of any allegations an the Lawrence family get sued massively I wouldn't trust the Lawrence's at all an if they lied they need to be kicked out of the sport
based on you not liking the Lawrences lol
every village has one
Bruh!😂 are you ok!