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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 มิ.ย. 2024
- On First Take, Stpehen A. Smith, Kimberley Martin and Dan Orlovsky join Molly Qerim to talk about Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes and the Philadelphia Eagles.
0:00 Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson
4:30 Stephen A.’s take
7:00 Better or worse about the Eagles right now?
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I love Lamar but this a stupid question😂 Nobody is on Pat’s level. They just compare other players to him to fill out the segment.
Next year it will be burrow again.
@@kleatise52 No one is close to what Pat has accomplished so far. Burrow can’t even stay healthy. That’s a no.
Yep
@@og_mante5138 I’m just saying, once mahomes wins, they will stop with Lamar and try somebody else. Or maybe josh Allen forever
Didn’t Brady beat him in afc championship 2 times and then went to the nfc and beat him 31-9 in the superbowl? Lmao
The AFC championship game is the Patrick Mahomes Invitational. This isn't a debate
He’s lost in his own invitational then.
@bo0gi3 yeah he's not immune to losing. It's just amazing that since he's been a starter he's never not been in the AFC championship game
It’s the Chiefs invitational. Last time I checked there still the reigning Superbowl Champions. Lamar has to win first. This ain’t a conversation.
The last time a conference championship game that didn’t feature Patrick mahomes , Tom Brady or Arron rodgers was 2009
@@Frankieefootballmundial arod played in the NFC ..... Sheesh y'all need to stop talking lol
I feel like since people want the Chiefs to lose soo bad because they have been winning the last few years they are just throwing out nonsense because be fr how are you even comparing a guy that has won 2 rings, 2 MVPS, Been to 6 consecutive AFC Championships, and won of those 3 AFC championships. You can give Lamar his flowers but don’t downgrade Patrick Mahomes or even compare him because he Lamar doesn’t even have half of Mahomes Rapsheet.
Having said that Ryan
Tom Brady's extensive experience and impressive track record set him apart from Patrick Mahomes since of course, Mahomes doesn't have his Rapsheet. While Mahomes is undoubtedly a talented player, he has yet to establish the same level of dominance and consistency that Brady has demonstrated over his career.
Therefore I have no idea why people even mentioned Mahomes as the GOAT
That has nothing to do with the question. The question is who is more revolutionary which means...change.
@@maxcenevil - Aaron Rodgers
@@marceldwayne8491that’s exactly what I was about to comment chiefs fans hate for people to compare mahomes to anybody in the nfl while simultaneously trying to compare him to someone who has 3 times the amount of achievements than he does it is very disrespectful especially when people have already crowned him the best ever ALREADY😂😂😂 and not even to mention that Tom himself destroyed mahomes in the Super Bowl and beat him in his MVP year
@@MrRocket100 if I could give 100,000 thumbs up bro I would
The delusion of fans is almost like politics! Like my dude, where speaking on resume not talent just pure raw concrete evidence.
Hands down Tom is the GOAT without a question. Could Mahomes challenge the resume of Tom? Absolutely but at the moment he hasn't even surpassed dare I say, Joe Montana, Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning.
BEFORE he even gets in conversation with Tom, yes he needs to surpass those guys. That's how far the resume of Tom Brady is.
Sorry those are the raw numbers, don't blame the reader.
Kimberley is hardcore REACHING😂😂😂
She remind of that black spike person for Biden. Says a lot but says nothing
@@phonseng-hs6tp 🤣🤣🤣🤣
How is Mahomes not most revolutionary he’s doing all this at age 27 he’s here every year even with his most trash squad he’s every had . Won 2 out of 3 chips
Those are team accomplishments. His team isn't trash; the defense is carrying him. If Mahomes played for the Panthers or the Cardinals, they'd still be terrible. Mahomes get far more credit than he deserves.
He’s actually 28, about to turn 29 this year, but yeah. He’s on that Brady track right now for sure. Maybe might even pass him. Time will tell. As long as Andy Reid doesn’t retire
@@Zenigundamyou can say the exact same for Lamar if he was on those teams. Before last week he was 1-3 in the playoffs and had everyone in media giving him a pass because he didnt have "weapons"
The question isn’t who’s “better” or “greater”, the question is who’s more “revolutionary”.
Mahomes is basically the pinnacle of QB play, but at the same time it’s slightly replicable, even if at a much worse rate. Lamar though, is one of one. There has never been anything like him, Vick included, and helped revolutionize how people look at QBs due to the different style succeeding so well.
Mahomes is clearly better, there’s no contest there. But that wasn’t the question.
@@freddygaulman5493 you can’t say he’s a 2x mvp and say his teams weren’t good enough
Lamar is my favorite QB in the league, but if we're looking at this objectively: Mahomes has been more revolutionary. GMs are looking for the next Mahomes, not necessarily the next LJ as I think the league are still catching up on really seeing his value to the game.
Patrick Mahomes has changed the way we view good throws vs. bad throws much like how Steph Curry changed the way we look at good shots vs. bad shots in the NBA. Lamar hasn't quite had that degree of impact on the game.
I'm rooting hard for Lamar and the Ravens in these playoffs, but the answer is Mahomes respectfully.
Yup. Just like with Steph - all the kids are now throwing like Patrick, and all the coaches are yelling at them to master the fundamentals before the no look, non-platform stuff. He has also set the expectation that all new QBs should have dual threat ability even if they don't feature exceptional footspeed, which Pat doesn't.
Great analogy. Yeah, Lamar (my favorite player) is like pre championship versions of KD, Joker or even Giannis. It's almost magical seeing what they can do out there but it's going to take a while for that next guy like them to be found. Revolutionary is a big word too because Steph really did change the game & they still looking for that next Steph Curry though. Jokic has & still is in the midst of shifting how do you prepare for a baller like him. Same with Lamar but he Really would solidify it for the naysayers with a ring. I'm absolutely hoping he wins one too.
🙏🏼
Why do they always spend a week talking about Josh Allen after he loses? Media rarely talks about a losing QB this obsessively. Media wants him to win SO BAD.
He’s the NFL poster boy
They need to coddle him and tell him what a special boy he is when they lose.
Sure buddy they will talk about J Allen ONLY WHEN HE WINS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you’re on crack and you need to leave the internet
because he’s amazing yet hasn’t won anything
Bruh I’m tired hearing about Lamar ain’t nobody say nothing bad about that man it’s they opinion then yall gone be mad when mahomes bust his behind
Kimberley has the worst takes always! She can’t even communicate she gets lost in her points and makes zero sense! Absolute HORRIBLE analyst!
She doesn't even look like she believes in what she is saying 😂
@@ti2968 Yup. It looked like the producers wanted to have this debate, and somebody had to volunteer for Lamar.
Kimberly is horrible analytically good God almighty!
Thank you so much, don’t think I’ve heard a single take from her that is somewhat good, always terrible. Put Mina Kimes on instead if you need a female analyst
Finally someone else noticed
this is like saying Westbrook is more revolutionary than Curry it’s nonsense
Thank you!!!
Perfect comparison
Lamar vs mahomes will be showtime 🍿
That's not a compelling match-up. The real quarterback battle in the championship games will be between Purdy and Goff, two gunslingers who know how to run pro-style offenses. I would never want my son to watch the other two if he wanted to develop into a real quarterback.
@@Zenigundamwhat is a real Quarterback
@@kcmo8164 Someone who understands the position and knows how to dissect defenses. We keep hearing about these running QBs and how great they are, but look at happened when Jalen Milroe went head to head against J.J. McCarthy. Did Michael Vick ever win a Super Bowl? He never even played in one. What about Steve McNair, Vince Young, Jalen Hurts? It doesn't work in the long run.
@@ZenigundamThis is a laughable take bc Brock Purdy didn't look lik that last week and not only that but Purdy is in run first system. He is not slinging nothing all over the field.
@@Zenigundamwe know what you really want to say. You’re saying the real QB matchup is between 2 white QBs. It’s not about dissecting defenses or anything else. Brock Purdue and Goff are not Gunslingers. That was a dead giveaway that your statement is complete bulljunk! Way to be a clown
Kimberly is Hating 😂😂😂 I love Lamar but as of today Mahomes is already a First Ballot Hall of Famer if he retires today!😮
Lamar 1st ballot 2 mvp he automatic to😂😂😂😂
No Super Bowls and not enough stats yet.@@breonmitchell2443
She’s a moron and I’m not sure why they invite her on the show.
“Don’t sing. Don’t dance. Stop.”😂😂😂😂
Had me dead 💀
he wasn't having none of it 😂😂
Who gave Kimberley a job??
Apparently Lamar the way she defends that dude
Diversity hire
Yea, who? great question.
She’s great
@@vTrueDad at only defending Lamar
Mahomes 6 yrs in
2x mvp
2x Super Bowl MVPs
6x afccg
2nd player ever to throw 50 td 5k yds
Tied 1st all time in most playoff games with 5+ td passes
Tied first all time in most td passes in single postseason
Ranks 1st all time in
Passer rtg
Td int ratio
Completion %
Yards per game in playoffs and regular season
Fastest qb to 10K yds
Fastest qb to 15k yds
Fastest qb to 20k yds
Fastest qb to 25k yds
Fastest qb to 100 td
Fastest Qb to 150 td
Best winning % of all time when trailing 10+ at the half in playoffs
1st qb ever to trail entire playoffs by 10+ points and win the Super Bowl
He’s the greatest ever
If Patrick wins it this year ABSOLUTELY! I believe he is the most talented and that includes Dan Marino and some of the older QB's that had lasers for arms.
Has a long way to go before he catches tom
He can never catch Tom Brady. Losing to Tom Brady hurt his legacy forever. The better Mahomes resume gets, the better Brady will look. Brady will always get the he beat him straight up arguments. Its not an opinion but facts.
@@helloman3676That’s a silly argument.
@@juscameron7439 Its not an argument, it's just facts. When the chip was on the line, Brady straight up beat Mahomes. 🤷♂
I think Patrick maholmes is the best qb for the NEW generation
More like the best quarterback of the 2020s
@@FrankieefootballmundialI think Lamar is right there .
@@RobertSmith-tu7rlhell no lmao.
@@RobertSmith-tu7rlgtfo when Lamar makes 6 AFC championships in a row and two rings we can talk lmao y’all want to crown him so bad when he only has 2 playoffs wins
@@calebmayfield8285 lol of he gets 2 rings he will be where Mahomes is as I said many times. MAHOMES had the advantage of having stars and a HOF coach to begin with Lamar will an is catching up. I know what my qb can do . No the media wants to crown Mahomes Soo bad Brady is the goat. And always will be.
Keep that same energy Monday that you had for Josh Allen
He’s been better than Allen
They won’t, for either QB.
Josh Allen is OVERRATED they been wanting him to beat Patrick Mahomes but he’s just a full back at QB
😂 they’ve been keeping that energy for Lamar. It’s Josh Allen who has been getting the benefit of the doubt despite him accomplishing almost nothing.
What? If he plays well except when it matters most and loses, blame the rest of the team and tell him what a special boy he is?
I remember when it took Stephen A to see Mahomes throw the left hand pass to say he’s a good qb, man time flies.
I haven’t seen one good Kimberley take ever
Mina Kimes would be perfect to have on air with them on these days.
It's Mahomes By Far, funny story is I remember a scout saying Lamar would be another Taysom Hill 😂😂😂
By definition lamar is revolutionary because if he’s able to pull off the final win, he will change how we and the league views the QB position. Mahomes is revolutionary in a different way, but in a way that elevates the traditional role of a QB. Hope this makes sense lol
she went around in a circle to regurgitate what everyone says
Kimberley always sounds she is inlove with Lamar lol 😂
Molly and Kimberly look fine today 😂😂 only reason I watched today
Lamar can't hold Mahomes jock strap
Ummm okay!!!!!
@@bgstv10001you’re drunk.
@@AntLowkey1k ok
@@bgstv10001 but aye I can see why you f*** Lamar though he's nice for real.
This chick on the left doesn’t know much about football, or maybe she doesn’t come prepared. I don’t know I always just fast forward through her parts
stop letting kimberly on first take bru lol
11:16 When Stephen A. did that I CRACKED UP_ It was PERFECT!!!💯💯😂😂😂
Holy cow, Dan! You finally give Mahomeboy the credit he deserves after glazing Josh Allen for a month straight even after a loss
Mahomes is so good his play style went from being a negative and described as “reckless terrible mechanics turnover prone” to being a mandatory trait for a 1st round qb
That says more about the ability of NFL scouts to evaluate talent.
They’ve been waiting to have this convo but Lamar never made it this far to face mahomes😂
He is still the best qb rn
@@Lrod0323he’s not
@@smoove3968mahomes is s tier.. the debate is for 2nd and 3rd between Allen burrow and Lamar
@@maverick33guy95bro said Allen💀
@@youngpicassoart7394 yeah Allen is top 5 at his position
How can you be revolutionary with no wind or rings to show for?????? CRAZY
you realize football is a team sport right?? 🤦🏾♂️
@@jau.tumn14fr people need to learn to separate team achievement from player achievement
Why did Kimberly forget about Cam lol. All the swagger and dual QB style exploded with him. Obviously he tailed off at the end but he was Lamar before Lamar came
I’m not a chiefs but if I could pick any qb on my team in the history of the sport, I’m taking mahomes.
By definition lamar is revolutionary because if he’s able to pull off the final win, he will change how we and the league views the QB position. Mahomes is revolutionary in a different way, but in a way that elevates the traditional role of a QB. Hope this makes sense lol
No, we’ve seen players like Lamar in the past. Vick, and others. We’ve never seen a qb with mahomes’ skill set! The precision and accuracy of Rodgers, Brady and manning and the gunslinger mentality of Favre and the best most revolutionary passing skills and angles and improvisation of anyone we’ve ever seen!
@@isasooner5 but that’s what I said. He’s revolutionary with respect to elevating the the traditional role, skill wise, within a traditional QB skill set. Lamar is taking it to a different direction. And yeah, we had Vick. But he wasn’t quite like this. But it all depends if Lamar can pull of the way win. They’re both revolutionizing QB’ing. I just think it leans more to Lamar with a slight margin
@isasooner5 lol what? Lamar is what Vick could have been. He's Vick with actual arm talent.
You just said what they said about Mahomes.
It doesn’t
Can’t wait for this game. It’s a big game for Lamar, it’s a regular post season game for Mahomes. Ravens have more to prove. Will be a good game. Don’t see anyone getting blown out.
I'm huge Lamar fan, he's an athletic freak, and I love his humbleness and work ethic. Having said that, of course Mahomes is more revolutionary. The guy is doing things no one has done with winning and with throwing the ball. Both are revolutionary, but Mahomes is waaaaaay more so. I think people are pumping up Lamar too much lately. Lamar is not better than Mahomes lol. I know people want the Chiefs and Mahomes to lose because they have been so dominant but this is getting silly
Give Lamar a Hill and a Kelce, and this league is completely different
Kimberly has no idea what is finna come out of her mouth loll
These questions are ridiculous.
I'm getting to the point where I'm tired of hearing Kimberly speak about football. Her responses are so unbelievable she doesn't even believe them. They taking the eye candy thing a little too far now
Clever answer from SA regarding the Eagles: accountability.
Good point by Dan. QB coaches are telling kids to play like Pat which is against everything they’d previously known.
Respectfully kimberley, might just be a LJ fan and thats fine but I'd urge her to go back n do her research on Michael Vick,Randall Cunningham,Steve McNair,Donovan McNabb
We’ve seen Lamar before his name was Michael Vick…..his name was Steve McNair…….His name is Donovan McNabb…….Patrick has revolutionized the position.
We seen Patrick in Dan Marino and Aaron Rodgers and none of those guys are the runners from a shiftiness perspective as Lamar or have the highs Lamar has with 3 perfect passing ratings
@@brashadcarr6759 Mahomes has a Superbowl how higher do you want him to go
He has the Bowl...now he needs the Plate and cup set...then some cutlery @@tyrencrafton1814
@@brashadcarr6759 All those guys dwarf Lamar's TD output.... and lets not talk about TD/Int %..... ok lets talk running the football Steve McNair did it Donovan McNabb did it.... and guess what Dan Marino/Mahomes/ARod all stomp the sh!t out of those QBs when it comes to TD production too..... with all those running QBs and we'll add Cam Newton into the mix..... none of them can produce as man points as QBs who throw the ball to.....wait for it..... skilled positions that are apt to score...... This is why QBs that are skilled throwers of the ball are more valuable.... And lets not talk about consistency.... You know what you are going to get when you are a skilled passer... you can play in any conventional offense and the coach knows what the production outcome will be.... Running QBs you can't hence the inconsistency in play.... A special offense has to be put in place in order for them to thrive.... but its always 1 play away from injury.....
@@brashadcarr6759 Replace Dan Marino with John elway....Dan Marino was stiff.
"He could go down as one of the greatest of all time" stop it woman he's already number 2.
Put Shay Shay and Kimberly on there together. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
How on earth did that woman get her job? She is absolutely terrible at this
Mahomes has more rings, stats, and playoff wins, but by all means, assume it's LJ.
These guys failed to point out how Lamar's broken barriers that transcend sports.
✔$260,000,000 Contract - Without an Agent
✔Surviving Nationwide Collusion & Blackballing
These are radical events that present a serious change (both retrospectively and prospectively).
So, when you look outside the lines - and into the Front Office - I think you'll find some of Lamar's biggest contributions.
They say “they figured him out” for every quarterback. Besides that, they had a good point since he kept losing playoff games. Let him accomplish something in the playoffs before crowning him over Patrick
Revolutionary: involving or causing a complete or dramatic change. I think the way you defend Lamar is much more Revolutionary because we've only seen MVP Cam at this sort of dual threat throwing and running the football. We've seen great QBs with great arms, who can scramble some before similar to Mahomes. But we just don't see as many Lamar Jacksons, so based on the change he forces defenses to adjust to I think Lamar is clearly more revolutionary.
This is a stupid question..
Again… get rid of Kimberley
Can’t stand Kim smh ESPN get rid of her
This is an unserious conversation. It’s clearly Mahomes.
Interesting question, but it is definitely Patrick Mahomes. He is as close to a perfect QB as far as skillset and intangibles that has ever played the game. He can make every throw, can play in the pocket and out of it, and is the best or 2nd best escape artist in the league (Josh Allen is in the convo). Not to mention, he can run the ball well also. His blend of passing and running and how he allows those skills to play off of each other makes him so revolutionary. He is also clutch. He won his first superbowl while trailing every game by double digits in that playoffs. A big reason that Lamar took such a big leap at QB to me, even though the passing numbers might not suggest it on the surface, is he became more like Patrick. What I mean by that is, even though, the ravens are the least passing team, when he does drop back to pass, he is making great decisions and manipulating defenses with his eyes and threat of running. He is faking a run to open up a pass now, whereas before he committed to running very quickly. This makes him so much more unpredictable and I believe he learned that from watching Patrick.
Journalist caring about truth 😂😂
Isn’t that the woman who said she wants her quarterbacks to be “quarterbacky” ?
lol and pm has how many afc appearances and how many SB?
Steve Young was doing all the same stuff in the 90's please look up his stats .. he waited behind Joe Montana, and his career was cut short due to injury in an area when passing wasn't emphasized.
This is why I don't watch these shows. Because anyone who says lamar doesn't know anything about football and hasn't been watching football for the past six or seven years open your eyes
Mahomes iq compared to Lamar’s AINTTTTTT EVEN CLOSEEEEEE
Lamar Jackson has a very high football IQ, that's why he doesn't throw high interceptions. Mahomes has more talent arm wise, but Jackson is smart. Don't let his look fool you, like he's done GM s who said he's an wideout
they are both smart
@@jakjones8680 dude doesn’t even slide. Like I said mahomes iq is 10000x higher
@@elev8lounge44he doesn’t slide he dives to avoid contact… do you even know what you’re talking about?
@@jau.tumn14 what’s his career playoff numbers. And didn’t all but one year he have like the number 1 defense 2-3x. And the rest top 10? I mean my god. Dude isn’t clutch and like my initial post said .. MAHOMESSSS IQ IS WAY HIGHER. Thats what all the metrics, and the eye test show. Light years ahead
Lamar went from nobody wanting him in free agency to being in the revolutionary conversation
Both are great and revolutionary. Whoever retires with more super bowl appearances and wins is the better all time
That first girl didn’t want to pick Lamar she had to for a show 😂😂
Kimberly you don't belong here
Lol if we are going to talk about journey. Before the draft everyone was saying Mahomes would never be a good NFL qb. Many analyst even saying that the chiefs pick was absolutely horrible.
He’s won 2 MVPs and people would tell you players like Burrow & Purdy are better QBs
If he wasn’t able to run, they wouldn’t hold his talent against him
The conversation is unintelligible because there is no nuance. The media has been bandwagoning
Iam watching football because of Lemar Lemar skills on touch
Very tough question but I would say Lamar everywhere you turn you see a running QB every NFL draft you see a QB from college raise his draft stock just because he can run a 40 under 4.50. But Mahomes is what you see in NBA with Curry everybody wants to make them weird throws and live in moments throws
Go Chiefs! FYI, it was so nice seeing you on General Hospital again today!
Media says the NFL is filled with young elite QBs but only 1 has any rings. Everyvody else gets a pass based on what ifs
"could go down as one of the greatest of all time"? he's already at that point
The question isn't about who's better or greater. I gotta give Lamar a slight edge in terms of revolutionizing the position. It's akin to what Curry did in the NBA as a PG. We've honestly seen a Lamar and Mahomes before, to a lesser degree, but Lamar was literally asked to change positions. I think owners and GMs may reconsider asking athletic QBs that question going forward after witnessing what LJ is doing. Mahomes and some of his unorthodox mechanics will never be taught to QBs, that guy's a maniac but i think more coaches would welcome athletic QBs with great running potential.
I fast forward when Stephen talks
Mahomes stats against #1 defenses including the playoffs….
W-L: 6-1
Chiefs PPG: 31.0
Pass YPG: 322.4
Pass TD-INT: 15-7
QBR:94.3
The question is about the most “revolutionary” QB not the “best” or “winningest.” Mahomes is too traditional to be revolutionary. However, Lamar is a player that they were pushing to be either a Receiver or a Running Back because of his athleticism. NOW we all know that he has arm accuracy and arm power as well. THAT is revolutionary!
SAS Has to start putting some respect on DAN O NAME 😂😂😂 but fr
The program would be better without Kimberly Martin.
I never wanna hear Kimberly opinion after the cam take she had 🤷🏾♂️
these mahomes vs this convos are annoying. just accept he’s the greatest in the league right now. there are so many convos to be had besides these blah blah vs the 2 time mvp, and 2 time super bowl champ. it’s foolish to say anyone is better than this man.
Mahomes kinda takes from Favre, Elway and Rodgers. But his throwing ability on the run is stupid.
I do not like her commentary. Ever since she spoke on cam newton. Disrespectful
Why does Kimberly still have a job, she’s the worst analyst on ESPN
Saying Lamar is so ridiculous, Kimberley could barely hold back her laugh.
Stephen A be doing Dan just like how he use to do Max 😭 He act like everything Dan do is asinine
People act like Vic didn’t do Wht Lamar is doing .
He didn’t
💯 they said vick wouldn’t last long either
Vick admitted that he never worked on his skills until he was released from prison and had to get himself back into football shape. Lamar is the next level of VICK for sure.
Not passing wise. LJ is a much better passer than Vick was! Vick arm was stronger, but nowhere near as accurate LJ. Lamar can throw you open,where Vick had to see you open.
@@sirrmanning2769 but he still existed before Lamar and humility is a virtue. Vick was a dog. There has never been a Patrick
Mahomie 💪
Hey Kimberly off this show
Its crazy how fast they moved on from Josh Allen to Lemar Jackson.
Lmao they find a new wb every year to try to compete with Mahomes 😂😂😂 they literally had the same convos about hurts and the eagles last year
But Josh Allen was never as good as Lamar.. Lamar was just hurt the last 2 seasons
@@JohnKing-jz9zb Josh Allen is way better than Lamar
"He (Mahomes) could go down as one of the greatest of all time"...COULD?! Do you watch football Kimberly? @0:55
I hate when Kimberly is on the show
These questions are disrespectful. 6 yrs 6 conference champsps straight. 3 SB 2SB wins 2 MVPs and were conparing qbs that HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A SB LET ALONE WIN 1
it didnt ask who’s better (lamar is btw but yall will see later) it asked who’s more revolutionary. lamar jackson’s style was literally viewed as unwinnable. mahomes is just the best thrower of the football we’ve ever seen, but he’s not doing anything matthew stafford hasn’t done his whole career
Nothing she said about Lamar makes him revolutionary. Lamar Jackson is a phenomenal player, but I wouldn't say he's revolutionary. Mahomes actually changed the way his position is played. From recruiters to coaches, they're now encouraging and training QBs to execute plays similar to the manner Mahomes does. He also entered an unknown space when it comes to QB contracts. Now that is revolutionary.
She want him dats all was smiling hard asf
Lamar is absolutely revolutionary. Mobility is highly valued in QBs (Lamar has a bit of a part in that), the way defenses have to play have altered because of Lamar’s abilities (can’t just send everyone), what he does on a football field go beyond the statsheet, he’s genuinely changing football
Also Lamar made insane moves when he was able to get his contract with that insane guaranteed with no agent
It's definitely Patrick Mahomes 😃
They’re straight up disrespecting the greatness of mahomes. Lamar has had 4-5 years of the ravens trying to find out how to help him out more. All The chiefs have to do is say “we have mahomes”
I would say Mahomes because he’s more duplicatable, Mahomes has amazing atteibutes and all time intangibles but Lamar has singular attributes with good intangibles too
That fake lil pass he did on that run is so fire
Dan didn’t answer the question 😂😂😂
He clearly said Mahomes, are you even listening? LOL
Literally no gm goes into the next draft looking for a Lamar Jackson why is this a question?