ESPN’s Dan Orlovsky: Why Patrick Mahomes Is the NFL’s “Best Player Ever” | The Rich Eisen Show
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- ESPN’s Dan Orlovsky tells Rich Eisen why he believes Chiefs QB Patrick Mahomes is already the NFL’s “best player ever.”
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Mahomes is what people thought Rodgers would become.
Put Rodgers on those Pats teams and Chiefs teams now, and he would have all the hardware.
@@joshuaj.2108when Rodgers played in GB he had great receivers and running backs. The defense was awesome with Charles Woodson, AJ Hawk, and more that escapes my mind. I don't recall Greenbay's only appearance whereas their all pro defensive tackle held out, the receivers had the dropsies and did have a number one all year and won the Super Bowl. No hit on Rodgers but Mahomes is him.
Still not at the level of those Bellichick/Brady's Pats teams. Just saying. Swap Brady to the Pack, and Rodgers to the Pats. Who would have more rings? 😁
@@joshuaj.2108Rodgers had great teams, he just falls short a lot! Mahomes did it with no Wrs or Defense. X3 They not the same bro
Rodgers didn't have the defensive teams Brady had nor the coach in Bellichick. Again, swap Brady to the Pack and Rodgers to the Pats and Aaron would have more hardware than Tom.
This Superbowl was the most watched telecast in USA history with over 130 million viewers. If the Chiefs are playing for the 3-peat. The numbers will be through the roof.
Only if it's the Chiefs and Kelce is still with Swift...
I love Mahomes, but playing the 9ers was a big part of that viewership as well.
The name Mahomes and SB seem inseparable. I am glad I could watch him play and perhaps his best days are still ahead of him.
Patrick Mahomes has won 2 Super Bowls and a 2nd league MVP, just SINCE the Chiefs traded away Tyreek Hill and Bengals fans/players/politicians humiliated themselves with that Burrowhead crap. Hilarious. And unbelievable.
Since the trade:
Hill: 0-2 in the playoffs, 12 catches, 131 yards, 1 TD
Mahomes: 2-0 in the Super Bowl, 2× Super Bowl MVP, 2-0 against Hill
Guess who won the trade.
Burrowhead was so funny and dumb
Too bad Brady lost so early so we could have a rematch
To be tyreek hill tho. Woof. Smh. TWO SBS!!! imagine watching the chiefs get 3 more SB during your career. Oof
Dan crack me up because now Mahomes the best but he been trying to put J. Allen and Burrow ahead of him for the past 4 years.
CJ will win a Superbowl before those two.
Tom Brady 22yrs as a starter:
10 SB appearances
7 SB rings
5 SB MVPs
3x MVP
6x All Pro
Pat Mahomes 6yrs as a starter:
4 SB appearances
3 SB rings
3 SB MVPs
2x MVP
3x All Pro
Tom Brady first 6 years as a starter:
4 SB appearances
3 SB rings
2 SB MVPs
0 MVPs
0 All Pros
Aka Mahomes has more MVPs, All Pros and SB MVPs than Brady this far into their careers. Not to mention more regular season wins, more postseason wins, a higher passer rating, more passing yards, more rushing yards, better TD:INT ratio while averaging more yards per attempt
The GOAT argument is not even close and only time will show that
I bet Rich was annoyed by him eating on air 😂
Trading Tyreek was the best possible thing Andy Reid could have done for the long-term development of Mahomes to evolve & grow. He's become surgical.
Plus the draft capital they got for Hill... KC traded surplus to fill a need.
It was honestly a super-smart organizational move. They would have had to pay him a ton, and for that money they were able to sign a couple of mid-tier veterans on both sides of the ball. Not to mention what you said about adding through the draft. Unfortunately they can't do the same with Chris Jones because he's a free agent this offseason, but part of me thought they might last year.
Agreed. I think this current Chiefs team is better than the ones with Tyreek Hill. It's not as sexy and athletically pleasing on offense to watch but defense wins championships
In my opinion, Mahomes doesn't need to tie Brady 7 rings or surpass him with 8 to be called the G.O.A.T. (For me) all he needs to do is do 3 things Brady didn't do in his 23yr career. (1) Win next year's Super Bowl and 3-peat. (2) Win his sixth Super Bowl ring in half the time it took Brady***Brady won his sixths in his 19th Season. Mahomes just finished his 7th year as a player and 6th as a starter with 3 SB wins. So, all he needs to do is win 3 in the next six years. (3) Not lose multiple Super Bowls. *** Brady was 7-3 in SB*** If Mahomes goes 6-1 and retires in his 12th or 13th year as a starter. After just winning his 6th ring. He would walk off as the G.O.A.T.
I think the hardware factor can get blown out of proportion. Russell is the greatest winner with 11 championships but no one would put him over Jordan with 6 rings. Big Ben has 2 rings, but he wasn't a better QB than Marino with no rings. In terms of just pure talent, it's hard to argue that Rodgers isn't right there. Put him on those Brady Pats' teams or the Chiefs teams now and he would have all the hardware.
Sometimes, it's all about where you land.
Media advice: Don't eat food when your being interviewed on camera
He’s made millions being in the media. He doesn’t need your advice!
Yes he does. Have you ever seen ANYONE eat will doing an interview? And I'm sure the producers of the show told him what I just said
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It's so distracting. I was trying to decipher if it was food or chewing tobacco.
@@Hello-816 Yours either!
@@tony4534he’s a great analysis but needs to fishing eating before the interview starts. Interview etiquette 101
Wasnt dan just on espn saying he would take josh Allen over mahomes AFTER the chiefs beat them? 🤔
"What makes Mahomes so great?"
It's mental, it's that ability, to play to the limit of his(ability) at the biggest moments.
Very, very, very, very, very few athletes are able to do that, and not step over the line, OR allow some external factor(the situation, their opponent, etc, etc, etc) to affect THEIR play in ANY way.
Damn brother Paul you took me back to English class breaking that down😂😂😂..but that 💯 sums it my guy👊🤝
anywhere to find the a rebroadcast with the international announcing?
What isn’t being said is how Patrick has the one element 95% of QBs do NOT have, and that is the drive to simply never give up. There is IQ, and EQ, but he has CQ . . . a Confidence Quotient . . . a killer drive that Dak and other regular season successful QBs simply do not have, nor never will.
Lmao
"nor never" is a double-negative. Nor ever will...
@@elduderino3120
So, so, so happy that you were able to apply your grammar superiority over others. You must be on an incredible narcissistic high right now.
@@davidabbett7011 I teach English. Nice of you to try learning it.
Yep all the other QBs just give up right? Lol
He should have a Barbecue during the interview…
Why tf is orlovsky eating
mahomes d
@@terryhughes7196that’s what your team’s defense is eating 😮
He always eats when he gets a call
Disrespectful to do that on air
@@austingreen1274 he’s a great analyst but that’s very unprofessional
The rest of the League is back at square one on trying to stop Mahomes.
Rich, here is a question that will task your mind! If Patrick is able to threepeat at age 29, is that a record that ever be broken? A Super Bowl threepeat plus one at least 3 Super Bowl MVP's by age 29! Could that record stand forever? How often does the Universe create a Super Athelete? 🎉 😮
"a record that ever be broken?" - "is that a record that will never be broken?"
I love one thing he said about the special qb coaching. Kids should not be training to play any specific position or any specific sport. The best players all played multiple sports. It's better for your body and your mind to have fun and just play. So many parents are trying to raise lottery tickets
Dan spot on
Theres a difference between being the best and being the most accomplished. Bill Russell has almost double the amount of Rings as Michael Jordan, but everyone knows Jordan was better. You can see it with your own eyes. There are things Mahomes can do that Brady could never do. Mahomes is only 28 and already has 3 rings, who really thinks it’s impossible for Mahomes to get 4 more superbowl wins if he plays another 12-15 years?
so mahomes is a better passer and decision maker than aaron rodgers?
@@dustking3569 No question
@@dustking3569 "...better passer and decision maker..."
For himself or the team? Tom Brady never had Aaron Rogers talent, yet in the playoffs down by seven or more points, 50% of the time he would lead a comeback and win the game. Tom Brady had two double digit comeback in Superbowls. This stat is from last year "Aaron Rodgers is 3-45 in his entire career when trailing by double digit points in the 4th quarter".
Tom Brady went 10 years between Super Bowls so him hitting 7 isn’t that far off
@@johnbox271 Tom is better than Aaron im talking about mahomes lol
Why is he chewing through this entire interview. What a mess.
Why is the media obsessed with comparing people .. ranking … can’t you just celebrate greatness - it’s endless .. and pointless
Who really cares - right now - machines is the best .. the end
i agree with you, they just have a lot of air time to fill
...and #15 is such a quality guy! As a Chief's fan I have to pinch myself! THIS IS SO MUCH FUN!
He’s changed his tune! Growth Dan!
He's wining when he shouldn't. Take that into account when you're also considering how innovative he is, how competitive he is, how determined he is. He has the will to win... but it takes more than that to win as a team. It all has to come together for the whole team to win. He and his team are doing it when they shouldn't. It's only going to get better for him. If they add one good WR, if they resign Jones, if they resign Sneed, they're going to have a great D for years to come.
When Reid retires, when Kelce retires, he is paving the way for success by showing that he can win when the team isn't at it's best. He's going to make every team he plays on better and this last year, the lack of weapons, he's going to get better. He'll have more weapons next year. He'll win more MVPs, he'll win more SBs and more SB MVPs, he's going to go down as the GOAT and as odd as it sounds, it will not even be close. After what Brady did, seeing Mahomes do something even more special, it's going to be hard to fathom.
Pat is so special bc hes athletic, hes coach able, hes hyper competitive and happened to land in a place with a top level coach and a good culture behind him..hes only gotten better year after yearwith or without the stats he has evolved his game and now understands the game is just a matter of management and he can win any game when he plays if he just plays the game as it comes every week
Dan Orlovsky also thinks Carson Wentz is a hall of Famer lol
Patrick 'Mr. Magic' Mahomes!¡!
Chalk this up to recency bias
Dan is a smart Man love his stuff and Rich is Great as well …
How is he smart when he been saying Allen and Burrow is better so it obvious you don't watch this guy.
Mahomes Magic 🪄🎩✨🏆👍
The reason Mahomes and the Chiefs are always going to be competitive is bc great players are always going to be willing to go to KC on a cheap contract in order to chase a ring. Same reason the Patriots were always great
Yep they got draft picks 1 & 2 years on Offence & Defense too. They only get better with training... As the whole team is...
Why is 7 rings impossible to chase down? We just saw it happen ffs.
He's also the best I've ever seen. I don't trust how brady and belicheat won. What i see with Mahomes is the total package, nobody has what he does. Rodgers might have a better arm for the every pass scenario but mahomes legs is the key.
Rodgers had the legs in his prime too. It's all about landing spots. Had he landed with the Pats and Brady to the Packers, he would have all the hardware to go along with one of the most gifted QB to ever play.
Did Orlovsky just glitch? 0:13
Mahomes post season games that dont go to overtime? he is 13-1 THIRTEEN and ONE.... jeez...
Hungry Dan? Go Chiefs
He's a dawg.
The dude couldn’t resist not eating for this?
Didn’t Orlovsky say earlier in the year he’d take Lamar over everybody?
ESPN taking it to Brady since he will be in FOX. That's why this is the narrative now. Watch Acho, Joy, James Jones, and Shady take back their takes after the SB win vs their pre-SB take on how much it will take for Mahomes to catch Brady. They are on Fox. Dan is in ESPN. Let's see how it goes next season. Brady will be in sports media. Let's see these paid analysts how they will take their tone.
~ Dude has got a "MULTI -SPORT BRAIN" on top of having an inherited "Rifle" of an arm from his Dad and humility from his Mom. But let's not make the mistake most did with Tiger Woods and spend so much time in the future wondering where it's going, and spend more time enjoying the current ride . . . ~
The game has evolved - the next goat won’t have 7-8 rings. He’ll have a few and will have amassed a set of stats the Brady could’ve never reached.
Mahomes is chasing Bill Russell not Tom Brady
ANDY IS THE GOAT!! Bill B watch out.......Andy is on his way. Just look at the play calling !! It helps Pat to be the MAN...
Tyreek got his big payday, and hasn't been to the SB since. Jones could take a small haircut from the best paycheck to be with the Chefs, or roll the dice getting the biggest paycheck and never sniff the SB again. To me, not a hard choice.
I try to tell people that hate him, at least he’s not super in your face about how damn good he is, the mahomes haters would have daily aneurysms
Dude, don't eat on TV.
They are going to win it next year against Detroit maybe but probably thats my pick unfortunately i would like to pick my Cowboys but probably thats not realistic
Pat was playing basketball and baseball. He only got with football in HS. So he didn't have qb gurus at 7 lol
GIVE Jones one year 25 mill contract.
He's very good, that's true but he needs to play for another 10 years or so and he has to do it without stars, without Kelce, Jones and throw TDs to 75 plus receivers and break the many records that Brady has! Help to change receivers that were not even known to one's that became well known!!!
Jones is gone. Left tackle is In house. Get a receiver and a couple of interior guys. Can’t pay the olds.
MaHomo is simultaneously the best and the most hated QB out there. As long as he doesn't get shot at a victory parade Kermit will be slinging it for a long time!
We'll see. I want to see what he looks like if he can't scramble for runs and has to stay in the pocket. Until then I will still put Brady and Peyton Manning above Mahomes, because I have seen them at their peak and how well they performed on the way out.
Mahomes is peak is at a ceiling above no.other. But he has to sustain it because this season wasn't that impressive by Mahomes own standards.
Grow up, Paul.
Please quit getting the New England fans worked up. TB12 is the goat. Pat is clearly elite...more to come.
Yeah, well the Chiefs have won the SB every yr after Tyreek left. Some say the Chiefs actually got better after Tyreek, becoming more diversified on offense. But Hill is still loved by Chiefs fans. Tyreek simply got bad advice from his greedy agent.
Not even close
Name anyone better
The worst quarterback of all time tells us how good the best quarterback of all time is
Captain obvious over here. The season before he was saying Burrow was the best QB in the league. He's trying to be skip lately with the outlandish takes. Now he's saying Daniel's is the best QB in the draft. I'm glad the bears have the first pick because dan is always wrong
It's a stupid comparison but I'm going to do it anyway. Jordan/Russell. Jordan is viewed as the best bball player ever. Russell has the most rings ever. Brady has the most rings ever, but Mahomes is proving to be a better talent ever. Just an opinion which we all know, opinions are like aholes, we all have one.
I have been saying this for years. How about Robert Horry with 7 rings. No one would say he is better than Charles Barkley or Carl Malone with no rings.
This is like little kids saying LeBron is the goat they've never seen anyone else play.
You want to know why he's the best ever and better than Brady? Brady never won with a big contract. Mahomes is now 2-0 in Superbowls where he carried the biggest cap hit in the league.
There were a couple years in that 10 year stretch when Tom wasn't winning Superbowls where he had at least a top 10ish contract. Couldn't win.
Mahomes is the most talented
If Patrick Mahomes was good. Why can't he beat Goff? Goff beat him as a Ram and he beat him in the Lions so how can you say hes the best when Goff is 2 and 0 against him.
It's a team game first of all 😂 and it doesn't matter that he lost to Goff twice it could've gone either way both games. The difference is Pat has 3 rings and 2 MVPs what does Goff have? Mahomes is miles ahead of Goff lmao
Nick foles was 1-0 vs Brady you gonna say he's better? Lmao you and logic don't go together I see
@@ljrouse5 he's lucky Brady retired
Teams love their regular season wins against Mahomes. Only 2 QB's have beaten Mahomes in the playoffs. Tom Brady and Joe Burrow. And Mahomes is miles better than Joe!!!
@@wc1994Eli 2-0 against Brady doesn’t mean Eli is the goat point is it’s a team sport anyone can take it. But for Mahomes you have to beat him in the playoffs for it to mean anything as he only lost twice 😳think about that.
Does this guy even remember guys like Lawrence Taylor or Montana or Walter Peyton or Barry Sanders? Just another talking head who has no clue about the past in football.
Those are greats along with Brady n Mahomes. Ain't even hard to pick, LT is the GOAT
No they're prisoners of the moment just like little kids with LeBron and think he's the best
Defense Been Carrying Mahomes and He Ranks 'Dead" Last Among NFL QBs With Multiple SB Appearances....Saved by an NFL SB Record "57" Yard FG...The Hype is VERY Disingenuous and Over The Top...Oh and He Has "Andy Reid"
Eating on camera during an interview? Come on!
Mahomes is MJ NOT Messi. Messi is a tad overrated. Choked in 8 straight Champions League tournaments.
Maradona (by far) > Messi;
Pele (by far) > Messi
Ronaldo > Messi
Mahomes is the MJ of football. Messi is a tad overrated.
Lol. 😅
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Mahomes is the Messi of the nfl
Brady is. whoever the #2 is that would be Mahomes
Maradona (by far) > Messi;
Pele (by far) > Messi
Ronaldo > Messi
Mahomes is the MJ of football. Messi is a tad overrated.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What is he chewing on?
Mahomes is having the career Rodgers would have had if Rodgers had a HOF Coach and a Defense that didn't regularly allow 40 in the Playoffs
Rodgers had a competent coach! and, a much better defence in his first 6 seasons playing, compared to the defenses Mahomes had!
hell... Rodgers had a better receiver group over his career compared to what Mahome's had to work with these last two seasons!
"Mahomes is having the career Rodgers..." should have had. They are both extremely talented, but at their core they are fundamentally different men, which makes the difference. Mahomes has that dog that you saw in Brady.
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Mike Mccarthy is a hall of fame coach.
Doubt it. Rodgers just isn't as clutch as Mahomes.
He's not the best ever, everyone just can't separate his individual play from the association of the team success. The truth is that the play calling and personnel are elite. The proof is that Alex Smith was in MVP discussions when he was starting in the same regime, despite looking like a bust in the other 2 teams he played with. Chiefs pass catchers have been open more than any other team in the past 10 years, and that's mostly because of Andy Reid.
They were ready to bench Alex that year, CMON MAN!!!
@@michaelellison8244 what are you talking about?
How many rings Andy got without Mahomes?
@@nextbigthing2917 lol. How many has mahomes got without Reid?
@@TheShepdawg9 Looks like it’s equal teamwork.
Let's pump the brakes for a couple of years. If Patrick loses most of his mobility to become a pocket passer and he can still win Superbowls or compete for one, then I'll give him the crown.
Brady was great because he was a total package minus the mobility. But he was still a top 5 quarterback every year because of intangibles and pocket presence. He used his mind also.
Right now.Mahomes has everyone telling you how great he is instead of people.coming to that realization themselves.
Mahomes is a luckiest quarterback of all time.
Yeah lucky that's it.🙄
4 super bowls in 6 years 3 rings 2 MVPs shattered every passing stat through this point in his career and he's lucky? You don't know football go watch soccer lil bro
“ god given “ talent :. Americans are fn hilarious
Not going to listen to this nonsense. Not even the best QB ever. Mahomes couldn't carry John Elways jockstrap.
Did it for years with average O & D lines and running backs/receivers before TD got there
Brady is the Goat and Mahomes is the Boat
Here we go again, the new flavor of the month. It always changes to whoever is the now player
Bro he's won 3 SB and you're calling him flavor of the month 😂😂😂 more like flavor of the decade
@@TDR-0484 🤔 The headline read best player ever, which he isn’t
@steelrob7917 debatable. He's not the GOAT, but as someone that's watched the NFL for 35+ years, he's the best I've ever seen. Honestly.
@@TDR-0484 That’s fine, but my point is about how espn has been doing this since the late 90’s, in basketball and football, whoever is playing really good to great at the time, they label as the best. People easily forget about elite players from older eras
BACK TO BACK PLUS ONE
Best player ever wouldn’t need help from the refs. Just saying.
lol ok refs going to call penalties bro.. I used to always say that about Brady when I was younger, however I can’t help but respect his greatness..
Grow up
@@newaccountdoesnotequaltrol6409 build a better argument.
@@Caba-Rojo better argument then grow up? When you grow up, I'll give a better argument, kid
Dude must be blind Patrick Mahomes isn't the GOAT. The nfl wants him to be soly on him being the so called minority. I like Patrick but to say he's as good as Brady was is ludicrous
You need to compare 6 years of Brady to 6 years of ma homes and you will see my homes as every bit as good as Brady was if not better. I mean if you want to talk total career stats at this point then yes Brady is better because he's got 17 plus years on mahomes
@@newaccountdoesnotequaltrol6409 no I don't
Brady had the better career (so far) but compare the 1st 7 years between both and Patrick is better in just about every stat. More conference championship games, same amount of super bowls, more passing yards, more touchdowns, less interceptions, better passer rating, more playoff wins etc
Being a minority aka black has nothing to do with it. The best 2 players ever in the NFL are both black; Brady n Mahomes aren't the best 2.
#1 is LT n #2 is Jerry Rice
@@lnss8775 you're wrong. Let's see women outnumber men 7 to 1 colored people outnumber white males so who do you really think is the minority. When I was you the colored leaders said breed enough and one day well outnumber the whites when that one day is here
He was terrible in that game. He was really not very good all year long. He only won because San Fran kept jumping back into soft coverage when crunch time hit. It was maddening. Almost as if they were trying to lose.
Bro 😂 no way you’re saying Mahomes with 60+ rushing yards and 300+ passing yards with 2 TD’s against that stacked 49ers defense was a bad game
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@@user-mb1nj9te6q because I watched it. So many bad throws throughout the game. He looks nothing like the monster that was throwing 50 TDs a year.
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Lol good luck with that sir.
@@jasonfocacci9234 😂 clown
why is he eating mid interview- disgusting.