Do Lamar-Ravens or Mahomes-Chiefs have the edge at QB, head coach, offense, defense? | NFL | SPEAK
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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones debate whether Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens or Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs have the edge at QB, head coach, offense, defense and their x-factors.
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Do Lamar-Ravens or Mahomes-Chiefs have the edge at QB, head coach, offense, defense? | NFL | SPEAK
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Let them guys have fun in the locker room…what y’all complaining for
They just looking for a reason to say The ravens arent ready they been knocking Lamar all yr and been looking stpid all yr this is their last hope!!
Ravens been saying all week they have a “haven’t accomplished anything yet” mentality all week.
And yet they were dancing in the locker room after the divisional round win. As if they'd already accomplished their mission.
Actions speak louder than words.
@@neverstopimproving89lmao so they can't celebrate? It's called camaraderie
But the first time the Chiefs made it to the Conference Championship they danced!!! But since they've been 6 years in a row it's accomplishment is diluted and now you wanna judge the Ravens for hosting their very first in history!??? Yall some lame!!
@@StudentOfLife365 and who won that afc championship game in 2018? Was it the team who danced in the locker room or the veteran team who had been there multiple times before?
That logic is so dumb, because Brady has many times celebrated winning the conference, so let's not be dumb. ik you dont pay attention tho@@neverstopimproving89
It's not like John Harbaugh has ever won a Superbowl or been to AFC Championship game before.....
If Lamar Jackson win the superbowl he will be closer to Patrick Mahommes than Josh Allen and Joe borrow will be closer to Lamar Jackson. Facts over feelings.
Exactly
Losing a superbowl not having any mvps or all pros on your resume makes you better than a 2 time mvp 😂😂😂😂😂 you guys over stand for burrow
we’ll look back on this period and it’ll be mahomes and jackson at the top
@@Davo2times it’s about to be mahomes nd jackson running the nfl for the foreseeable future
Yeah but he wont
We all know that the journey can be just as sweet as the destination. I'll never fault a team or coach for enjoying the journey
It’s funny how Shady “No neck” McCoy was acting like Josh Allen was close to Mahommes even though he doesn’t have half of the resume Mahommes has but now the convo is between Mahommes and Lamar all the sudden no player is close to Mahommes? 😂 i guess if only Lamar played with shady “No neck” McCoy he would get the glazing he gives to the QBs he played with.
😂😂😂 no neck lmao but ur right... The Chiefs have never played "this" Ravens squad... Down goes Fraiser (Mahomes) no disrespect to a great quarterback
@@dontebishop9372This is the first time out all the times they played this is the first time you could say both teams have a defense that can win the game for them
Facts!! Before Allen lost he was on mahomes level
Then he loses and now no one is on mahones level
Even tho Lamar has 2 mvps and 2nd highest winning % behind Majomes 😂😂
Thats not saying much they both started 2018 PM drafted 2017 played 1 game,Mahomes 87-25includingplayoffs Lamar 62-24 where tf you getting your stats it's not even close Mahomes13-3 post season Lamar 2-3 Plus Mahomes 9 NFL passing records,two 5k yard seasons one with 50tds I could go on and on Quit comparing Lamar to Mahomes thats a joke its not even close,1 good year doesn't make him elite stop this ridiculous delusional BS lmao 🤡😂😂😂@@boogidwnej179
..SHady was a healthy scratch..for his kc chip ..but nah 15 &87 &10 ..95 ....it's MAHOMES..STAY OFF DRUGS 😂😂
Once again Lamar and family is going to dominate the game.
HOPE YOU KEEP THE SAME ENERGY NOW 😂😂😂😂
They on here acting like John never won A Super Bowl.
The problem for the Chiefs is, no matter how many AFC championship games you've made, this game is gonna start at 0-0.
And end with Chiefs up by at least 3 lol
@@SummitGuitarSchoolyou mispelled Ravens
@samueljepsen4632 keep telling yourself that .
I would start coming up with excuses on why you guys lost to the Chiefs oh the refs has already been used a lot.
@samueljepsen4632 that sounds like Maholmes oh wait no it doesn't good luck !
@@Vote-Bluekeep that same energy when your golden boy mahomes gets sent home
The X-factor is Lamar Jackson. Simple as that. Go Ravens!!! 🐦⬛🐦⬛🐦⬛
isaiah likely imo
Yep either he will choke or have a good game
Taylor Swift story is great for the superbowl
@@Gr8Stowe you should be exiled
@@wtcher2060 ravens in the playoffs "nevermore"
I have to take Baltimore despite how great Patrick is. Ravens defense is too focused and inspired, and they have offensive weapons galore. Miami fan, KC beat us but Ravens picked us apart like an insect.
Nah
No one expected eagles and Foles to win against Brady in SB, so it ain't cap to think Lamar can't beat Malhomes
He's beat him before
Of course. It's just absurd that Ravens fans think this will be a blowout.
@@dhLord64the ravens are not the bills or the dolphins that’s what chiefs fans don’t understand.
@@youngboy3571and what Ravens fans don’t understand is KC isn’t the Texans! KC dominated who was in front of them, you play who is in front of you! This isn’t a Rookie QB, Rookie HC, Rookie Coordinators! Not saying Baltimore isn’t great because they are! Just saying don’t count KC out before the game is played, that’s when they punch you in the teeth!! Should be an epic game!! Can’t wait!
@@htownrep190 we’ve beat better teams than the chiefs this season. The chiefs can’t say the same. Nobody thought the Texans were winning except the clowns in the media.
How has the Ravens not been there before but have 2 rings 😂. Im lost big dog.
This iteration of the Ravens havent...but either way their coach has so they sound stupid
Because nobody is actively playing on the team the last time they won a SB. Where as you can't say that about the Chief's as a whole.
@@daddymcsnacks_561don’t matter the coach still has experience & not to mention KVN has a ring as well, plus Ray Lewis still be around so they have experienced people in & around the organization
@@JC-db7so check your history on that. Chiefs went into Gillette after the Pats won their last super bowl and had a big celebration. Andy Reid with Alex Smith beat the Pats 42 to 27. So yes he has done it before.
@@RIChiefs what playoff game was that?
Another day, another time Lamar n the ravens are underdogs and underrated .. it’s not enough to show not one but multiple times you can compete and beat the best . Sunday might be the most viewed game in nfl history. A must watch 👀‼️
Wym underdogs the spread is Baltimore -3.5
@@beatscd9441 bro clearly you don’t see everybody on chiefs n p mahomes nuts
@@pm.glizzyBecause he’s won big games and Super Bowl rings before. Lamar hasn’t.
@@pm.glizzy Almost everybody is picking the Ravens though. Chiefs are the underdogs.
@@pm.glizzyloser victim mentality 👎🏽👎🏽👎🏽 everybody’s favoring the ravens tf
So Harbaugh haven't won a superbowl with flacco??like wtf
He made a mistake big dawg calm down , and Andy won more
@@Scoop3rAndy was a choke artist until he had Mahomes
@@nicklove3963 they doesn’t make what I said false
Harbaugh won a Super Bowl 🤣🤣 danced on Christmas.. wasn’t a issue now it’s a issue
Ravens by 2 TDs 😏
NEXT TIME MY BOY. NOT THIS TIME
Rocking with 15 & 87 EVERYDAY🫶❤💛
That act like that don’t like Lamar for real
They dont
Its an opinion no feelings involved they are stating facts while having fun and im a born and raised bmore fan
At this point joy just starting to agree with everything shady say
She always does smh
Every single thing
At this point? She been doing that he hitting that just peep how she looks at him when he talks lmfaoo
That’s how they get after you smash
Or she's logical, which she is, and she's not betting against Patrick. Neither am I.
Acho “I love Lamar Jackson”
😂😂😂 since when?
He’s like Dori from finding Nemo with his short term memory loss
Andy Reid has been to 11 NFC/AFC Championships. Put some respect on his name.
last week they took josh Allen over mahomes cause he played better in the regular season but now it’s Lamar it’s mahomes been here before 😂
That's the first thing I noticed. It's mind blowing
Recency bias
Yall lost all credibility you had left with the “if Lamar goes to a Super Bowl he is a first ballot HOF’r”
HOF just for anybody nowadays
Are we going to talk about the fact that the chiefs had home field advantage in 5 of the 6 AFC championships?
So
If you want it, gotta win the 1 seed, or be the highest seed left. It's a byproduct of winning. So who cares?
@@johnmeierdierks7185 agree
Teally
Xfactor in a game that will likely be close is probably someone no one is talking about, like Chris Jones or Bolton for the Chiefs, or OBJ breaks out a big play for the Ravens.
It’s a Harbaugh year in football
Is not the ravens first time here! We have won 2 of them things .. if you say is Lamar’s first yeah but every dynasty must come down!! WE GOT THIS!!!
I'd say the X-factor truly is Kyle Hamilton. If he can't lock up Kelce, it's going to be a long day for Ravens fans. Because we know Sneed is going to lock up Flowers and OBJ.
While the Ravens have the better overall offense, defenses are pretty close. Although, what isn't even close are their QBs and HCs. Which will be the difference. Who performs better with the game on the line.
Flowers is mostly in the slot so Mcduffie gotta clamp him down
Come on lamar put those chiefs to bed
This won’t be easy
@@user-lt1fx2he5swont be easy, but ravens have a very large chance of pulling this one out
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lost me at Flowers, feeling he has a quiet game. Sneed and Mcduffie no joke
Who’s going cover likely, Bateman and Andrews ? Even Odell can make 1-2 big plays.
I see a big game on the ground just like against the Bills. We won't test Sneed much he too good
They fell for the divisional game. Bills receivers beat themselves
Ol Girl and Shady got something going on 😂😂😂 every episode I pay attention to her eyes and his eyes and they both give off a vibe… But Ravens all day ❤❤❤
Im excited to see Ravens Defense against chiefs offense
Miami fan, love that, I can't wait. Baltimore D is Preying Mantis
"never been there before" Acting like John Harbaugh didn't win the Super Bowl and make the conference championship 4 times
Mahomes vs Jackson is going to be a CLASSiC 🔥💯
Why does Roquan not ever grt any mention, if he stops the run like he did last week it's over for the Chiefs.
Hey I was just saying this to myself. And I thought Acho would have named him the X-Factor. Roquan is underrated.
X Factor is Mahomes. He can will his team to a victory.
And he can throw 2 pick sixes in a row like he did against the raiders
CJ Stroud and the Texans put up 45 points on the supposedly top-ranked Browns defense, the Ravens shut him out of the end zone, a shut out. Mahomes is great but not great enough.
That’s not how it works. Every game is different.
@thelethals4445 then why keeo saying derrrrp the chiefs are playing in their 6th afc championship
When and if Lamar wins this game and the Superbowl this show will have nothing to talk about literally
Chiefs are known for defeating the better teams, but this should good game
like this graphic worked so well last week lmao
So they forgot Zay go to the slot he gotta deal with an all pro slot corner in Mcduffie they keep bringing up sneed
Depending on where Henry goes next year will change the next quarterbacks status
When NFL wants a team to lose, they hype their name all day kong . Ravens are a winner already.
Playoff Patrick is better than Regular Season MVP Lamar. Straight facts
If Lamar wins MVP with less than 30 total Touchdowns then MVP doesn't mean anything anymore. Lamar's stats are average this year at best. 14th in Total TDs 15th in total yards 😆😆😆 He shouldn't even be on the list frfr.
@@Supafly101 shows you don't watch games shows you watch stat sheets you low iq inbread clown
@@Supafly101 Spoken like a true "casual." Your stats aren't even correct.
Edit: I love how you went back and edited every comment, but they're still wrong.
@@prlysis So if my stats aren't correct show me. Lamar doesn't have 30 total TD's 😆 he's okay 11th in total Tds and 15th in total yards, sorry buddy it's a fact. Technically Derek Carr and Geno Smith had a better season than Lamar by the numbers,🤷🏽♂️ your phone isn't just for selfies genius, do some research 🫵😆
@@prlysiswhere waiting on you, show us Lamar Jackson's stats this year and say they don't compare to Derek Carr and Geno Smith , in fact they're numbers are better than his🤔 not to mention Jacksons backup Tyler Huntley has a winning record with the Ravens when Jackson doesn't play🤔 so since we're talking valuable to the team, how valuable is Lamar if they can win without him playing🤔 So by Lamar's numbers Derek and Geno should be in the MVP talks too considering their numbers are better than his 🫵🤣🤣🤣
James jones laugh be having me in tears lol Nice take besides joy 😂😂😂🤷🏾♂️
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I hate how these analyst base their opinions on the past. It doesn’t matter if the Chiefs been here. It’s Lamar’s time. Fight it all u want. 30-20 Ravens.
Y’all bunch of fools (talking about media pros) go ahead and doubt Mahomes go ahead and sleep on the Chiefs y’all talking heads will be saying this same thing next season as the Chiefs take yet another Lamar trophy HOME. Let’s Go… Let’s Freakin Go… HOW BOUT THOSE CHIEEEEEEFFFFFFFSSSSSSSS!!!
The X Factor is Chris Jones. He’s got a MILLION dollars riding on the outcome.
Does Mahomes get to play the AFC Championship Game with two legs this year?
If it wasnt for shady i wouldn't bat an eye at this segment
Agent 0 on that defense for the Ravens booooyyyy good luck out there Mahomes 😂😂
They better get KC this year! They will get a 1# WR next year! Imagine if Mike Evans goes to the Chiefs for the next 3 to 4 years with Mahomes!
Sbs on Sbs ❤
So regardless of what happens on Sunday
We’ll be fine
Shady shocked me on the offence there and the defense, but they’re too close on their predictions I think also needs to let up some control and let shady go against James acho vs joy
Switch it up a bit. You know this is Acho’s show. This guy has all the power.
This show is way more interesting than undisputed and that’s a fact… y’all know it y’all just too embarrassed to admit it
Shady Security Services 😂
Playoff Pat is gonna have to show these clowns that he ain't done AGAIN!!! GO CHIEFS!!
Stop talking about the dancing. The ravens keep saying they focused and know the job isn’t done yet.
Doesn't john have a super bowl?
John Hardball? He got
As a Chiefs fan, I think we win. That said, I see Kyle Hamilton as a guy that will be a HOFer. He's huge for a safety.
Joy will literally never go against pat. He can have a broken arm and she'd still pick him to win.
So why you all didn't pick Lamar for QB!!! Really.
Mahomes is keeping receipts!! Good luck
What recipes? The Chiefs are only 3 point dogs even though the Ravens are a far better team and playing at home. If anything the Ravens are the team that should feel disrespected lmao.
This the best time to use obj tbh still can catch the impossible
Mahomes is 4 -1 against the number defense’s in the playoffs Lamar ain’t on mahomes level and yall just act like the Chiefs Defense sucks or something keep on underestimating Chiefs
I love how down to Earth this show is 😂.Keep it up guys💯
McCoy is basically a homer. His takes are totally unobjective, with zero facts just opinion. Mahomes was outplayed by Hurts in the Superbowl. Hurts made one mistake. Yes it cost them the game, but the Chiefs were getting smashed before that
What? He was not outplayed. AND he was doing it on a bum ankle. Both QBs were neck and neck.
If Lamar was on the Chiefs this year and Mahomes was on the ravens do you think the Chiefs would be in this game?
If Lamar was on the Chiefs from the beginning of his career, the Chiefs would have probably 4 Super Bowl titles. This is the first year Lamar has had anything resembling the weapons Mahomes walked into the league with.
And with THIS YEAR in mind; Lamar took the 2019 Ravens to the number 1 seed which had weaker weapons than this year’s KC team (albeit in a first round loss) so there’s nothing that says he wouldn’t have been able to go through the mediocrity that KC went through this year to get to the AFC title game.
@@thomaswerner5082 bro you should lay off on the drugs my guy first of all Lamar Jackson‘s been hurt for two freaking years so how would that even be possible and you act like Patrick Mahomes has ever had a stacked team as stacked as the ravens are right now absolutely not
@@thomaswerner5082 Oh I can’t wait to come back to you after this game
@@thomaswerner5082 Oh yeah and when Lamar’s hurt he sits on the sideline when Mahomes is hurt he’s out on the field winning Super Bowls
Hamilton is such an X Factor man he was a bit quiet against Houston but even so could’ve had an interception complete game wrecker
These guys do know Harbaugh has been there before right?
So they chose Josh allen to beat but lamar absolutely not ctfuu
best sports show hands down
Joy is sooooooooo 😊😊
You put a #1 defense against pat , they lose. So keep betting against pat.
My X factor is Kelce -6 catches, 1 TD, to tie/ break the record for postseason receptions ! Wont be enough, as KC ( MY team!) Falls, 27 to 24 due to WALKOFF TD by the Ravens
Lamar Jackson capping off a brilliant year with the rushing TD
Everyone always talks about Sneed and rightfully so but Trent McDuffie is 1st team all pro don't forget
I aint go lie i used to enjoy this show. But the way these clowns switch narratives & have inconsistent standards on the QB position is sad. Especially when it comes to LJ. I remember bitCHO & shady putting Herbert, Burrow, Allen & Dak over LJ saying they the only true elite QBs in the league. I wonder how much LJ paid the NFL to be a 2x MVP & win the Majority of his games at the hardest position in the league. Allen coulda bought at least one he got paid way b4 LJ idk why he hadn't yet😂smh. If the refs & league let the players just play ball without them cheating this game is gonna be an absolute blowout 37-20 at the most. Then the excuse would b Mahomes weapons let him down when them the same weapons who help beat their elite Allen & dolphins. You don't win in the playoffs with just one elite quarterback so he obviously got the help he needs like the other 3 teams. I guess this the era where grown "men" get glazed instead of speaking facts on the sports without any personal envy or bias.
Joy taylor is stunning
The thing is john harbah has been to two AFC with out ed reed and ray Lewis when had cj mosley and Terrell suggs 2014 aslo john harbour lost AFC championship game so he has experience to this not new for john the only thing different is he has new guys on the roster of the Baltimore ravens sure might not have been there back back back but here been there and is very good coach with many playoffs experience i don this going to really do anything to him since be here
Andy Reid can dance if he wants to. Relax
What are you talking about Harbaugh s won SUPER BOWLS, I give Baltimore the edge there slightly he’s younger and more vibrant.
Joy didn’t give a good reason
Mahomes is like an irresistible force meeting the immovable object that is the Ravens defense. So far Ravens have been standing like a tree planted by the waters that cannot be moved!🎉😊❤
So the deciding thing about head coach advantage is whether the coach encourages dancing in the locker room after a victory or not? WTF?!! This show is 99% about entertainment, and only 1% about sound arguments.
May Have? QB and Head Coach By Far!
If Jones was up their it would be totally different
LJ wasn’t an all pro unfortunately but Mcduffie was and they don’t even know that
These Ravens haven't been there before but their coach has...how can yall be analysts but leave that out ?
The Ravens are going to dismantle and totally embarrass the Chiefs. Lamar Jackson is the best QB in the NFL. I see a 3 Peat to the SB with the Ravens. Superpowers never last forever it's the Ravens and Lamar for the next 3 years. Thanks for reading this PSA.
Like the confidence but no way he going have to deal with out alot of teams in the afc next year
Talk that talk baby!
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Like the confidence: The Ravens progression and season's record should indeed inspire great confidence.
Mediocre Chiefs (this year) have been hanging around and begging for someone to send them on early, swiftie vaca; and it is about to happen.
I can see a fantastic rivalry between lamar and mahomes in hope they both end up with the same amount of SB rings and mvps at the end of their careers so you could consider either one to be better
John Harbaugh is literally a Super Bowl champion. From the very beginning, this segment is stupid. You can’t just miss every easy fact and you do this all the time. “But Harbaughs never been there.” Uhhhh
“Lamar Jackson is the MVP, but Patrick mahomes is Patrick mahomes” these dudes stay choosing the safest choice so they have no backlash 😂 they used to be the best show
This tells me what they think about both teams! they picked the top 2 slots for chiefs because they are judging by history and not this season! That’s dangerous to play off of history! And the last 3 slots tells me they think BAL has the better overall team. I think they got it about right! I picked Kyle Hamilton as the x-factor too! Lol
James I see what u doing lol joy joy
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 You got little finesse in you and a little hater in you
The ravens has the edge and they should #1 seed at home you better have it, but anything can happen on any given Sunday just ask the 15-1 Vikings
🔥CHIEFS🔥VS the 🌎 let’s FG👊🏽💪🏽💯
X-Factor??? Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde has nothing on Lamar and L-Freaky
X-factor: Bateman, he’s hungry and has as much to prove as Lamar. His body language the last few games says it all… big game Bateman will finally arrive
Flock Nation! We got this 😈
Why do they ask these stupid questions you wait tell next week then you can have Lamar an crew on the show!!!😮😢🎉😂
My X- Factor is Rashee Rice.