not everyone's a good driver dude. They dont go fast cuz they dont want to crash cuz they not confident in their skills. Not everyone can speed on civilian road in a manual car going around corners not as easy as it looks either
I agree with keeping exhaust loud! I’ve never used quiet mode on my 2022 Mach 1. My neighbor the other day said “your car is loud. I like it!” 🤣. $73k is getting pricey. $11k more than my 2022 Mach 1 with handling package. 😮. I prefer switches to fiddling with screens.
Exactly. This is a Gen Z Mach 1. Locked ECU (don't know cars, so don't need access), screen (cheap screens), and Unreal Engine graphics. Oh and of course, Remote Rev. 🤣
I agree if I were to get another stang, but think it's at least 20k overpriced. I do like the color, but the body is basically the same as the 16gt I had. I also heard it is supposed to be difficult to tune and the steering feel is awful.
The only thing I like better about the dark horse compared to my Mach 1 is the factory steering wheel which I have changed out. I agree with you having no buttons to adjust the air conditioner temperature and fan speed is huge.
Thanks for another great video. I will never be able to afford any of the vehicles you drive but your videos get me that close to feeling like I could afford one 😊👍
That engine noise FEEDS MY SOUL! ❤ That sounds really good. Let’s hope they can walk back the interior screen at some point back to analogue, maybe a mid re-design. Also the weight! Hold cow, she’s a chonky girl! But man. That’s nice.
Give it to me.! That was the best on throttle I can remember. Can you hear me say freakin’ awesome!? Holy….. That’s going on my bucket list. Ford guy or not you can’t lose with this dark horse. Wow!
Say it ain't so Joe, this can't be the last one. This ride will sell so well, they will make another. The color or should one say the colors are fantastic, exterior and interior!
not really a Mustang Guy (dont really like Ford in general) but i have to admit this looks amazing. best part is the interior. looks really good. sadly pricing kills this.
I have a GT that i got for 41 and i couldn't be happier. I get to enjoy the glorious 5.0 for way less money. I don't need mine to handle like a race car because at the end of the day, a mustang is meant to be a cruiser.
Yeah boyyyyyeeee .. I i was yelling on throttle baby lets go..love the sound of that exhaust...wud even consider this over scat pack n hell cat but gonna check out a gt video to see if thats the route I will go. Put my stinger gt on hold cause everyday I think of another car I want ..good work Raiti's Rides Family....
Joe, you're a true car guy, and so am I. My buddy has PP2 Mustang GT, and he says the dark horse it's just a refresh of that vehicle What do you think?
@@joeyram955755k is the 2ss trim. You could have gotten a 1ss 1le for 49k this year but nothing left brand new at this point. More than 20k price difference for the Dark Horse is insane but hell a Nismo Z costs around 65k+ these days.
It's way overpriced and it's not a better car by any stretch. I hope there's a professionally sanctioned event against the twi, and not two nerds on a cornfield. And this is a glorified Mustang GT. It's marketing at its best. You're paying Zl1 money for a Mustang GT with sticky tires and a mild tune. Hard pass and I'm a Mustang GT PP2 owner.
Joe both of them are super nice and fast. I like both as always but the Camaro kinda looks better to me but also this redesign of the Mustang looks so good.
I’m loving my 1st ever 2023 GT with roush supercharger 750 hp ,lowered ,staggered 275f 305r nitto tires and just added an H pipe . 75k end of year sale with 2.9 % 72months 😊
Great video. In Australia I put my deposit down 15 min after the announcement Sept 22. I have in writing now from Ford the production date is 22nd January 2024. It is 'only' 349kw where if it was going to be the US 500hp it should be 373kw I think. They are changing the exhaust manifold here (it's thing I will change lol).
Manual seat back is always a beautiful thing. What I HATE is the pedal positions. They aren’t lines up properly for heal toe down shifting easily. The gas pedal is so far back and the brake and clutch are too close
@@rodneyjohnson670 The Camaro is ending production as an ice vehicle. Over the last two years the Camaro sold approximately 1/3 the numbers if the previous S550 Mustangs and now the new S650 is off to a strong sales start. The new S650 Mustang lives on because of the important category called sales. Next the Camaro will try to sell more than the Mustang Mach E while the IMSA GT3 Mustang Dark Horse will be competing against the C8 Corvette GT3. While the Camaro has remained the same uncomfortable muscle car loaded with blind spots. The new S650 has become a world selling Sports car with the new S650 Mustang Dark Horse S, Dark Horse R, Dark Horse GT4, GT3 and GTD Super Car.
I just watched your comparison between your 2020 Shelby GT 350 and the 2024 Dark Horse. I agree with your comments. But as a mustang lover I presently own a 2021 Shelby Super Snake built in Vegas and a 2020 Bullitt. Now I’m waiting for delivery of my 2024 Dark Horse. I am having a hard time deciding whether to keep my Bullitt or to trade it in on the Dark Horse. What would you do.
C'mon now, Joe. It's not. We all know the answer. The SS 1LE is superior, and the biggest thing, it's less expensive. The Dork Horse has cool Unreal Graphics. 😂
I think the 1le is better in performance but it's too small. Either mustang size or challenger size. I consider you lucky if you can fit in a Camaro. Feel happy about that.
@@comicrandomness3289 It's a sports car interior. Definitely tailored for an averaged-sized driver. It's fits like a glove for 5'8"-6'1" drivers that aren't fat. Amazing vehicle, just amazing for the price.
I usually don’t comment on you guys video but this one I am because I love that blue vehicle Ford Mustang because that is my favorite color anyway lol so that one I like it it’s pretty awesome😊
Wow that Dark Horse is freakin awesome Joe. I love how you just have a good old time while driving it! Definitely will never get an EV even if they can go the speed of light. There is just nothing like a good old fashioned V8!! Period!!!
Love your reviews Joe with @RaitisRides. Question... I have a Dark Horse that should be delivered soon. That being said the C8 is my dream car, and the new/aftermarket prices have fallen significantly since I ordered the Dark Horse in March. Is there any comparison between the two? I have driven several C8s and loved them! My Dark Horse is MSRP of ~$65k (I did not order it with handling pack). I can probably pick up a C8 coupe with most of what I want for about $5-10k more than that. Or even add a little more and get the HTC that I really want. What would you do? I know you have driven several of each. Thanks for any input.
Nice Darkhorse (Camaros last cousin lol)..is all alone on top of the pony car mountain..modded a lil bit with a rotofab airbox..and go over a lil over 500+hp..seems like you was so excited to drive it..row row ur gears..😅....thanks Joe and Steven for this exciting segment..😊
This new gen is off to a hot start! From seeing a ton of reviews it looks like the areas most in need of addressing are: The DH needs to go on a diet Tighter steering Interior - dash integration and trim Very curious to see what they do with this model next year not to mention anniversary versions and possible Shelby versions!
Great video Joe. The Dark Horse is awesome. My neighbor changed out several features of the car and now his DH weighs 3630 pounds, (lighter than the Corvette C8 Stingray Z51 of 3670). Check out the latest Car & Driver magazine in the 0-150-0 test; the Dark Horse came in 2nd of all the cars in braking!!! 6th overall in the 0-150-0. The 5 cars that beat the dark horse were multiple times more expensive. Heck the DH out-braked the Porsche 911 Turbo S & the Corvette Z06!!! Lethal Performance just Dynode the DH with the new Whipple 3.8 SC, stage II = 855 hwp!!! Now remove the back seats, change out for lighter rims, battery, hood & trunk plus add a Whipple or ESS GRu and you have an awesome daily driver Mustang!!! Great filming. Hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving Weekend!!!👍💪😎🇺🇸✝️
SS 1le is a better bang for your buck. I think these dark horses will be a dime a dozen, I don’t see 1le’s all that often. I’d take the 1le all day long
@@BrandenVandenToorn the wheels and black painted hood cleans it up a bit but the front end was just too busy. And they should have kept the 2017 rear lights those bug eye rear lights always was weird looking.
@@joshlamar1990 ahhhh idk I love those tail lights haha crazy how people’s preferences can differ so much. I really like the dark horse I just don’t know if I could justify the up charge on it.
This is why i love this guy, he is not scared to get on throttle like other car reviewers 😂
not everyone's a good driver dude. They dont go fast cuz they dont want to crash cuz they not confident in their skills. Not everyone can speed on civilian road in a manual car going around corners not as easy as it looks either
Yea he not like sam carlegion that dude be missing shifts
@@YoungJayveon😂
So much for the break in period
Would like if he just let the engine sound do the talking a bit.
“You do have the nice Blue Ember stitching on the floor mats that's an additional 5 horsepower power” humorous 🤣
I have to bring some laughs with the ON THROTTLE action!
I agree with keeping exhaust loud! I’ve never used quiet mode on my 2022 Mach 1. My neighbor the other day said “your car is loud. I like it!” 🤣. $73k is getting pricey. $11k more than my 2022 Mach 1 with handling package. 😮. I prefer switches to fiddling with screens.
Got my Mach hp for 61 new. you couldn’t offer me enough to sell it considering the price of the new ones.
Exactly. This is a Gen Z Mach 1. Locked ECU (don't know cars, so don't need access), screen (cheap screens), and Unreal Engine graphics. Oh and of course, Remote Rev. 🤣
Mach 1 for the win.... Looks better in my opinion too
Is your Mach exhaust stock? They're quite loud stock! Good choice on the Mach!
Nice..but to much money like usual 😂
I've always hated Fords, but I think this might be the one that finally takes my money. This thing is bad ass!
I like how the sides don't have any weird body lines. Plain, simple and dare I say, elegantly understated.
You nailed it David! Great eyes man!
One of the best reviews I’ve watched on the darkhorse
Joe I love how excited you are driving the mustang dark horse
It's the Dark Horse or nothin for me,full handling package ,plus the recaros...thanks for the great demo ride Joe.
1le has recaros too tho
I agree if I were to get another stang, but think it's at least 20k overpriced. I do like the color, but the body is basically the same as the 16gt I had. I also heard it is supposed to be difficult to tune and the steering feel is awful.
The DH is absolutely gorgeous in that color. Love my Vapor Blue but that thing is amazing.
The only thing I like better about the dark horse compared to my Mach 1 is the factory steering wheel which I have changed out. I agree with you having no buttons to adjust the air conditioner temperature and fan speed is huge.
Dark Horse did very well in Car and Driver 0-150mph-0 tests as those Brembo brakes really do the job.
Mustang is also really fast to 150mph.... 19 seconds from a stop with the auto and 22 seconds with the manual. Those are really fast numbers.
Clicked immediately, Back for every for mustang video you put out.
Thanks for another great video. I will never be able to afford any of the vehicles you drive but your videos get me that close to feeling like I could afford one 😊👍
I miss the Camaro but this would be a good choice as well !
That engine noise FEEDS MY SOUL! ❤ That sounds really good. Let’s hope they can walk back the interior screen at some point back to analogue, maybe a mid re-design. Also the weight! Hold cow, she’s a chonky girl! But man. That’s nice.
The Coyote V8 sounds so good. That alone makes the car a treat (and worth it) everytime you drive it.
Now at your local FORD dealership for $78,999 (+tax)
One by me has it marked up 20k to 93k. Smh
@@TrumpWon45-47
Ridiculous
That is absurd
He's right EVs will never take the place of that great V8 sound
Me encanta ese carro y más con los 5 caballos de potencia que tú le agregas en cada descripción, bravo 👏🏼
Give it to me.! That was the best on throttle I can remember. Can you hear me say freakin’ awesome!? Holy…..
That’s going on my bucket list. Ford guy or not you can’t lose with this dark horse. Wow!
The ride was exhilarating sir and I was close enough to the television where it felt like I was in the pass seat!!! 😊❤️
Say it ain't so Joe, this can't be the last one. This ride will sell so well, they will make another. The color or should one say the colors are fantastic, exterior and interior!
Got a 2024 Eco, but def going to upgrade next year ❤🙏
not really a Mustang Guy (dont really like Ford in general) but i have to admit this looks amazing. best part is the interior. looks really good. sadly pricing kills this.
You need to look at the interior of the 2024 Saleen Mustang. They enclose and build a dash around the displays
You get use to the screen A/C control. I just give a baby tap its so responsive
Awesome 👍
Mustang is built unlike any other Ford vehicle, very solid and capable 👍
You know it!
All sports cars really need physical controls as they are very demanding of your attention. Touch screens are fine for info, but not major controls.
Picnic table 😂😂😂 Joe you're amazing men
Thanks Alexis for allowing me to share the laughs and the cars with you!
@@RaitisRides thanks you for reviewing many cars for us
Hands down the best looking, BEST SOUNDING muscle car on the road!! Thank you Raiti!!
I am so glad that you are digging this one.
What a car . Love it Joe Love you reviews true American passion for cars .
Thanks for the gem Joe! @ 11:56-12:00
I knew it was going to be expensive but I would go directly for this over the GT.
Good call Omar
Yeah I have the Gt and honestly you can just get that and just spend the money extra to build it up how you want to look
I have a GT that i got for 41 and i couldn't be happier. I get to enjoy the glorious 5.0 for way less money. I don't need mine to handle like a race car because at the end of the day, a mustang is meant to be a cruiser.
I disagree Omar. The Dark Horse is nicer but if you're on a budget, the GT is the way to go. The main reason for me to go DH is to get that Tremec.
@@amiller2121 idk cars so much, why do people like the tremec? Is it like game changing or something
I bought a Mk5 Supra because of your awesome reviews now I am trading it in for this tomorrow...wife and I love your videos brother!!! The best
This color really takes it to the next level
Yeah boyyyyyeeee .. I i was yelling on throttle baby lets go..love the sound of that exhaust...wud even consider this over scat pack n hell cat but gonna check out a gt video to see if thats the route I will go. Put my stinger gt on hold cause everyday I think of another car I want ..good work Raiti's Rides Family....
Joe, you're a true car guy, and so am I. My buddy has PP2 Mustang GT, and he says the dark horse it's just a refresh of that vehicle What do you think?
“A jar of all the tears of Camaro owners” was hilarious. Well done review.
He says that pretty often. He also did it in camaros and mentioned mustang owners. He owns a ZL1 1LE, or at least did at some point
The price of the car is 70k LOL camaro ss 1LE wad 55k at 70K ypu can get a ZL1 with the 650hp 🤷
@@joeyram955755k is the 2ss trim. You could have gotten a 1ss 1le for 49k this year but nothing left brand new at this point. More than 20k price difference for the Dark Horse is insane but hell a Nismo Z costs around 65k+ these days.
It's way overpriced and it's not a better car by any stretch.
I hope there's a professionally sanctioned event against the twi, and not two nerds on a cornfield.
And this is a glorified Mustang GT. It's marketing at its best. You're paying Zl1 money for a Mustang GT with sticky tires and a mild tune.
Hard pass and I'm a Mustang GT PP2 owner.
This one is faster than yours though no?
@@bboytails0101OP brought up valid points, and that comment was the best you could muster? Shameful.
Your pp2 in today’s money would be more than the 55/60k pp1s around😢
Joe both of them are super nice and fast. I like both as always but the Camaro kinda looks better to me but also this redesign of the Mustang looks so good.
I think I saw a cop pass you at 20:50..I think he was drooling.
13:48 zonk the tablet as the gage cluster
Yeah of course Joe and I might afford one.
18:56 i love how happy you are in every video, when you say "i throttle" :D
It looked to me that the center storage light was on b4 Joe opened it. If so gonna be a problem keeping the battery fully charged
I’m loving my 1st ever 2023 GT with roush supercharger 750 hp ,lowered ,staggered 275f 305r nitto tires and just added an H pipe . 75k end of year sale with 2.9 % 72months 😊
That's a cap. Keep dreaming.😅 there's no car for 2.79 in this day and age 😅
Got it thru Ford financing on 2023 models only . That offer is not running anymore,ended in September.
The whole GIVE IT TO ME cracked me up. Your reviews of vehicles are great.
Very good review, Price is too high, not worth for those Horse numbers.
Great video. In Australia I put my deposit down 15 min after the announcement Sept 22. I have in writing now from Ford the production date is 22nd January 2024. It is 'only' 349kw where if it was going to be the US 500hp it should be 373kw I think. They are changing the exhaust manifold here (it's thing I will change lol).
Another amazing video! Would Raiti take a dark horse over a ct4v Blackwing?
Is that hard plastic glove compartment, the same one that I have on my ford focus?
Are you sure you want to zonk those seats? Power assist adds weight, and I'd be glad to have all-manual seat controls if it means saving weight.
I been loving the new mustangs I would definitely think about getting one
Love the Dark Horse!!!
It’s mean & lean
Manual seat back is always a beautiful thing.
What I HATE is the pedal positions. They aren’t lines up properly for heal toe down shifting easily. The gas pedal is so far back and the brake and clutch are too close
That’s a tough choice Joe. I think I like the look of the Camaro better……..and there are so many mustangs around ……I like to be different 🥸
well to be fair camaro is not really a car that is not seen around tbh
A 12 second car with 500 horsepower for 75000 is not a win. You could get a slightly used zl1 1le for that and obliterate that mustang on every level
I'd get an Oval and a Bowtie if I could.
If you like to be different, get a Lexus RC and convert it to manual.
@@rodneyjohnson670 The Camaro is ending production as an ice vehicle. Over the last two years the Camaro sold approximately 1/3 the numbers if the previous S550 Mustangs and now the new S650 is off to a strong sales start. The new S650 Mustang lives on because of the important category called sales. Next the Camaro will try to sell more than the Mustang Mach E while the IMSA GT3 Mustang Dark Horse will be competing against the C8 Corvette GT3. While the Camaro has remained the same uncomfortable muscle car loaded with blind spots. The new S650 has become a world selling Sports car with the new S650 Mustang Dark Horse S, Dark Horse R, Dark Horse GT4, GT3 and GTD Super Car.
You have driven so many special cars , I’d love to know what your top 5 were 😊
GREAT OPENING MUSIC IN YOUR VIDEOS 👍🏻
Joe and Lori and Steve and keep up the good work 👏 and I love the video 👏
This was a great video. Really fun to watch. This car became one of my favorites. ❤
Thank you for letting me share the on throttle action with you!
I'll keep my 2023 Mach 1! I can't get used to those screens!
ITS MY BIRTHDAY!!!!
Thank you all very much! I really appreciate it!
Happy birthday 🎉
Feliz Aniversário!!! That’s Happy Birthday in Portuguese, God Bless!!
@@filipemartins1850 great to know!,God Bless you too!
Happy birthday man!
I want one! Love The manual shift. Only way to have a muscle car. . This thing will be a collectors car someday when it all goes electric.
You’re having just a little too much fun there Joe! That car is BAD A$$!! Great video!
Joe, you probably have been asked this before but how does the power feel compared to your gt 350?
Joe Raiti, Master of the Pull Over Method 24:09 - he needed a big break! The viewers were the benefit of this car climax!
I just watched your comparison between your 2020 Shelby GT 350 and the 2024 Dark Horse. I agree with your comments. But as a mustang lover I presently own a 2021 Shelby Super Snake built in Vegas and a 2020 Bullitt. Now I’m waiting for delivery of my 2024 Dark Horse. I am having a hard time deciding whether to keep my Bullitt or to trade it in on the Dark Horse. What would you do.
The difference between Ford and GM is Ford makes their own cars and HP. Ford has class
C'mon now, Joe. It's not. We all know the answer. The SS 1LE is superior, and the biggest thing, it's less expensive. The Dork Horse has cool Unreal Graphics. 😂
The front tires of the SS 1LE are wider than the rear tires of the Dark Horse. 😂
@@RadDadisRadnot true chief. They come with 305 and 315 on rear. SS 1LE does not have 315s on front or rear
@@travisdurham29Yup. GM spec'd the 1LE perfectly. I do like how the Dork Horse sounds like a HEMI engine Mopar.
I think the 1le is better in performance but it's too small. Either mustang size or challenger size. I consider you lucky if you can fit in a Camaro. Feel happy about that.
@@comicrandomness3289 It's a sports car interior. Definitely tailored for an averaged-sized driver. It's fits like a glove for 5'8"-6'1" drivers that aren't fat. Amazing vehicle, just amazing for the price.
I usually don’t comment on you guys video but this one I am because I love that blue vehicle Ford Mustang because that is my favorite color anyway lol so that one I like it it’s pretty awesome😊
It would be nice if you had fog lights It will look a lot sportier and you would get a lot more light when it’s raining or when it’s really dark
Wow that Dark Horse is freakin awesome Joe. I love how you just have a good old time while driving it! Definitely will never get an EV even if they can go the speed of light. There is just nothing like a good old fashioned V8!! Period!!!
What a great car !!!! Thanks Joe.
Just got our dark horse on black Friday. Such an amazing car.
An American version of the Godzilla - GTR & it comes in a 6spd MT..It is simple and effective. There is no resemblance of a Camaro.
Love your reviews Joe with @RaitisRides. Question... I have a Dark Horse that should be delivered soon. That being said the C8 is my dream car, and the new/aftermarket prices have fallen significantly since I ordered the Dark Horse in March. Is there any comparison between the two? I have driven several C8s and loved them! My Dark Horse is MSRP of ~$65k (I did not order it with handling pack). I can probably pick up a C8 coupe with most of what I want for about $5-10k more than that. Or even add a little more and get the HTC that I really want. What would you do? I know you have driven several of each. Thanks for any input.
So happy for Mustang to keep V8
The color is beautiful
Love the dark horses review my g keep it up 🔥
24:07 mark 😂😂😂😂 nothing like when Joe drove that Porsche, though.
Nice Darkhorse (Camaros last cousin lol)..is all alone on top of the pony car mountain..modded a lil bit with a rotofab airbox..and go over a lil over 500+hp..seems like you was so excited to drive it..row row ur gears..😅....thanks Joe and Steven for this exciting segment..😊
This new gen is off to a hot start! From seeing a ton of reviews it looks like the areas most in need of addressing are:
The DH needs to go on a diet
Tighter steering
Interior - dash integration and trim
Very curious to see what they do with this model next year not to mention anniversary versions and possible Shelby versions!
Dark horse is such a cool name 🔥
Joe with the dance moves 5:33
What do I want (Camaro? Mustang? Challenger?) "🎵I want it all! I want it all! I want it all! And I want it now!🎵" - Queen
Which one was more enjoyable to drive, this or that Sublime Scatpack you reviewed recently?
After driving this car Joe, it will be tough to drive your Type R. You should get one of these.
Great video Joe. The Dark Horse is awesome. My neighbor changed out several features of the car and now his DH weighs 3630 pounds, (lighter than the Corvette C8 Stingray Z51 of 3670). Check out the latest Car & Driver magazine in the 0-150-0 test; the Dark Horse came in 2nd of all the cars in braking!!! 6th overall in the 0-150-0. The 5 cars that beat the dark horse were multiple times more expensive. Heck the DH out-braked the Porsche 911 Turbo S & the Corvette Z06!!! Lethal Performance just Dynode the DH with the new Whipple 3.8 SC, stage II = 855 hwp!!! Now remove the back seats, change out for lighter rims, battery, hood & trunk plus add a Whipple or ESS GRu and you have an awesome daily driver Mustang!!! Great filming.
Hope you enjoyed your Thanksgiving Weekend!!!👍💪😎🇺🇸✝️
It was actually tied for first with the GT3 RS when it came to braking. These brakes are the same as the GT500, but in a much lighter car.
“You can keep a Jar of tears for the Camaro owners” 😂😂😂 bro convinced me to buy the dark horse
Thanks for letting me share some laughs and this Dark Horse.
This channel will reach 5 million subscribers bro keep up the good work
Wow!!!! That's more than a muscle car but dark horse is the way to go!!!!!
Does it drive better than your GT350R?
Imagine as good as the factory exhaust sounds, putting Borla or Corsa exhaust would sent on over the top.
Thanks for your Videos. Enjoy your work . We have DH with Handling Package, we got the 10R80 automatic and we love this New Mustang
Fiesta 🥳
😂❤😂❤😂❤ Joe you just sold me a dark horse……
Based on price, you should be comparing it to the ZL1 1LE
Is the clutch pedal softer or harder than s550. Love your videos👍
It starts at 18:55
Beautiful car 👍. We love our turbocharged car's supercharged car's as well as naturally aspirated car's
SS 1le is a better bang for your buck. I think these dark horses will be a dime a dozen, I don’t see 1le’s all that often.
I’d take the 1le all day long
Camaro last generation was just so ugly . And the interior is way too cramped.it had no road presence it looked like a 2 door impala.
@@joshlamar1990 I’d agree on every model but the 1le. The 1le is the only camaro that looks good in my opinion.
@@BrandenVandenToorn the wheels and black painted hood cleans it up a bit but the front end was just too busy. And they should have kept the 2017 rear lights those bug eye rear lights always was weird looking.
@@joshlamar1990 ahhhh idk I love those tail lights haha crazy how people’s preferences can differ so much. I really like the dark horse I just don’t know if I could justify the up charge on it.
@@BrandenVandenToorn yea dark horse is expensive. Probably would catch one on the used market down the road.