Oh I think Dutch is worse than Colm, by the simple fact that Colm always showed what he was, he never hide that fact he was a psychopath, now Dutch by other hand is a monster that actually thinks he is doing something good
@@amortality999 i dont think they had a prequel in mind but they probably added the snowy mountain part in rdr2 as a reference i think. also im pretty sure that is the same mountain
@@elitematrixyt Nah it isn’t the same mountain. The one where they kill Micah is called Mount Hagen. The one where Dutch kills himself is mountain at his base at Cochinay
@@RamaboyButylka777 yea he did start going insane after blackwater. however, even in american venom, you can tell that he's not as crazy as he was in 1911. 1911 dutch would have dropped john in the mexican standoff, but he didn't. 1911 dutch wanted to kill john for sport
1911 Dutch was intense man > Blows a bystander's brains out for no reason > Executes a captured cop in cold blood > Terrorizes Blackwater > Refuses to elaborate > Jumps off a mountain
Just shows what the Pinkertons had to deal with, not even considering the other members of the gang. And while he is more unhinged, doesnt mean he is less skillful or intelligent or calculating.
It was snowy where dutch hid, so wearing a tuxedo wouldn't work so well, plus he stayed with the Natives so he was probably introduced to hunter, hand crafted clothing such as pelts.
I’m curious just what Dutch got up to in those 4 years, how many innocents slain, how many did he manipulate into following him? He ultimately turned into Colm not knowing the men he’s riding with or giving a damn about them. Just paying whoever and not giving a damn as long as he has the numbers to keep on riding…
It’s kinda wild to know that from Dutch’s point of view everything is crumbling around him he does anything he can to get out of any situation he completely loses any sense of what he once was turning into a cold blooded killer who doesn’t care who he kills so long as he gets what he wants a far cry from the great man we once knew back in chapter 1,2,3 and 4
I think its fair to say even before shit hit the fan Dutch.. had a few screws loose. But when shit get reals it's like he almost instantly sides with Micah which honestly pissed me off because I saw through Micah the whole time so it was no surprise to me when low and behold.. Micah the Rat. Looking back at RDR1 we see him post trauma after he realizes how bad he royally fucked himself, how many innocent people he murdered, the friends and family he stepped on, and aiding in the death of the only man who ever truly tried to call Dutch his friend. "Vengeance is a fool's game"
The choice of background music was a little too good that "It's nice to see you John." accompanied by that music made me feel like I was watching a mental patient go down an episode of a murderous rampage to a point it made me uncomfortable listening to it
Compare Dutch from 1899 to 1907. Then compare him from from 1907 to 1911. By the time 1911 rolls around you can tell he his a complete different person and that he has lost it
I found a rough draft of the speech he wrote to the gang to reasure them and keep them from running. It proves the he was a manipulator from the beginning and probably never believed the ideological nonsense he always spouted.
Red dead one:end of dutches gang Red dead two: fall of dutches gang Red dead three rise of dutches gang and maybe we get to play as young Arthur and the final mission is the black water massicar
Doesn’t Dutch say something about every one at the camp sleeping with Abigail? But then you got micah saying he couldn’t get none unless you put a gun to their head
Like a lot of things, Abigail’s backstory got seriously retconned, so she went from being a camp follower who fell for John to one of many women who were a core part of the gang.
No they absolutely did not. 😂 There’s so many things which, which while not outright contradictions, clearly don’t line up with what the implications for the backstory were in 1.
Something i wonder is if Dutch was always bad or Micah made something snap. We all hate Micah, plus Micah always talks in Dutch's ear, but antagonizes the other gang members.
Dutch is one of the greatest characters ever made best villain and the most interesting character i really liked Dutch I think he really tried too keep the gang together but really his brain injury plus his mental decline plus the stress of the changing of the times and Micah manipulating him too believe everything he says really broke the once family down he became delusional and living in his own head in a fantasy world where everyone could be free but in reality the plan he said never happened he was never going too stop running even though he said one more score and we are gone forever he was mentally gone
… brudda you gotta realize the age gaps going on here lol 😂 there is damn near two generations of young people that have only had the opportunity to play red dead two. A lot of people missed red dead one by five years.
@@mrexecutioner4346idk if it’ll hit the same way as people praise it. It came out in 2010 if im not mistaken and was a bomb game for the time but compared to rdr2 it falls short on everything except maybe storytelling. Played RdR1 when I was a preteen and i was 17 when RDR2 came out. Am 22 now and since then have won the game 3 times, just like you. If you have not played the first fame before i’d recommend either watch a video explaining the storyline (cause it really provides a lot of closure on the rdr2 plot), or watching a walkthrough of the first 30 mins of game and if you find it appealing just buy it. But again let me tell you it won’t hit the same way it hit for us who had played it so long ago as when it came out it felt like a top-of-the-line kinda game, and now its kinda the opposite
I feel kinda bad for Dutch, he had everything once, a gang, lots of money, he had Colm killed etc, then he just lost it all, it may be his fault for trusting Micah but he never intended that to happen. He had to slowly watch the gang fall apart, members die, morale being destroyed, no wonder he went absolutely insane in rdr1.
Yeah I z think he started to crack under the pressure of feeling responsible for everyone , then with the Blackwater massacre , I think it ate at him mentally along with losing Mac , Dave’s , Sean , Jenny , Hosea , Lenny , Arthur and ultimately finding out the person he trusted over everyone else contributed to their downfall
This music really matches just how badly Dutch lost his mind, Its Unhinged, Abrasive, Loud, Repetitive, has no logical end, it just builds and builds and builds.
Oh i though people who played Rdr 2 had played Rdr 1 before, it is the first comment section i am on where many people did not play Rdr 1 .. i finished Rdr 2 for the second time since 2018, 2 weeks ago. And i will replay Rdr 1 one of those days as i kept my copy since 2010 on Ps3. 14 years later and having fresh memories after Replaying Rdr 2, i hope to experience it differently because the game is so old , i wish Rockstard had Remake Rdr 1 the same way The Last Of Us was made again for Ps5 ... ( i never played The Last Of Us 1 because i know what happened in 2 and read about the ending in 1 so i dont know if i should experience TLOU 1 even though i only know how it end and nothing else ? ). I will not make many friends but John is not on par with Arthur given my old memories of Rdr 1 , i could change my mind but Arthur is the Best and Rockstar did wrote better characters than John : Max Payne in the 3rd and Detective Phelps from L.A Noire ( although i am not sure Phelps was written by Rockstar )
Dutch lost his insanity once he figured out he had screwed up everything and had gotten one of his most loyal men killed by their own member and went downhill from there slowly.
It’s so cool seeing how Dutch has just gone completely insane since red dead 2
Probably because he realized he practically killed his loyal son and chose Micha over him
@@BOOtyFiddler445Micah over him.
Dutch has a disease of the mind
@@dext1971🤓👆
Still doesn't make sense how he was still able to form another gang with his current mental state
1907 Dutch: "Hello son"
1911 Dutch: " You and the professor there, were gonna kill you both"
there are both 1911
@@rileymillican2273 I'm talking about Dutch in American Venom when he greets John with "Hello son"
"We're gonna kill the boOoOth of yA"
_sport_
@@JadeyFreakinM"why you want to go and do a thing like that?"
Dutch was one of the best villains rockstar made
And friends
One of the best characters they have made in general
And there is people asking him to be the MC of RDR3 😂😂😂
@@aldiramadani7362 esa gente no entiende el concepto de redención
@@pepita3290you got a point there
*John looks at the camera*
"If he is alive, I hope I don't have to go on a Red Dead Redemption"
*gunshot*
*fade to black*
*Fallout: New Vegas theme starts playing*
🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️🔥🗣️🔥
What did Sam Raimi mean by this?
AYE JOHN STOP BREAKING THE FOURTH WALL
And that's when he started red deading all over the redemption
Can we all respect the fact that Uncle outlived Dutch
Facts
Must have been the special powers of LuMbAgO
I like the theory that Uncle is actually Red from Red dead revolver
Shit only one he didn’t was John and it wasn’t by much
@@DCReal93but he isn’t😭😭😭
He became what he hated the most, Colm O’Driscoll
Kieran telling John how the gang is like the O'Driscoll's is quite correct, but the rest of the gang can't see that...yet
@the98themperoroftheholybri33 they couldn't see it cause they knew dutch before that point so all Kieran saw was dutch bein a loose cannon
Oh I think Dutch is worse than Colm, by the simple fact that Colm always showed what he was, he never hide that fact he was a psychopath, now Dutch by other hand is a monster that actually thinks he is doing something good
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 well not really the gang was family the o'driscoll was nothing near a family.
@@Welshman656 we talkin abt rdr1 dutch, by then his gang is just random misfits he prob dont know the names of
"We gotta stop meeting like this."
just realized he meant meeting on a snowy cold mountain just like how they did in 1907
then give dutch
@@Walthu_99.5i still dont get whether that was intentional because they had a prequel in mind or what
@@amortality999 i dont think they had a prequel in mind but they probably added the snowy mountain part in rdr2 as a reference i think. also im pretty sure that is the same mountain
@@elitematrixyt Nah it isn’t the same mountain. The one where they kill Micah is called Mount Hagen. The one where Dutch kills himself is mountain at his base at Cochinay
only if rock star actually made a remaster for rdr1
All you get is a switch and ps4 port
And that is okay, but it would be good if they just take out a port for pc@@nxmx6ix
That would be cool
@@nxmx6ixnot even ps5, or Xbox, Ps4 and Switch
@@justamexicanlambno PC port either
Dutch RDR2: losing his mind
Dutch RDR1: insane and psychotic
4 years can do so much to an already broken man
4 years? Is more like 12 years because after 1899 John didnt see dutch
@@RamaboyButylka777 John saw Dutch in 1907 in American Venom
@@adyens8791 but he saw him one moment and after this he didn't see him
@@adyens8791 also dutch start going insane in 1899 after blackwater massacre
@@RamaboyButylka777 yea he did start going insane after blackwater. however, even in american venom, you can tell that he's not as crazy as he was in 1911. 1911 dutch would have dropped john in the mexican standoff, but he didn't. 1911 dutch wanted to kill john for sport
1911 Dutch was intense man
> Blows a bystander's brains out for no reason
> Executes a captured cop in cold blood
> Terrorizes Blackwater
> Refuses to elaborate
> Jumps off a mountain
and dies
@@rayanammour2490 Holy
> Shoot Jhon in the middle of the eyes, if wasn't for the binocles...
Don't forget he ate babies too
Dutch kind of does those same things in RDR2 when you think about... Brilliant foreshadowing.
This music makes him 10 times more scary...
What music? I didn't hear any music at all.
@@MrNsidein the backyard of the vid
@@-WarriorCatsGamer
Which scene are they in the backyard?
Yeah I think what makes Dutch scary is simply how unhinged he is.
Canibal theory ☠️
Dutch was a absolute beast in red dead 1
Right ? That shot he did to John with the sniper was crazy !!
Just shows what the Pinkertons had to deal with, not even considering the other members of the gang.
And while he is more unhinged, doesnt mean he is less skillful or intelligent or calculating.
@@Steven_McCrae machine pistol*
Well he shot a lot of people in the head.
@@Steven_McCraeye but dutch would get beat tf out of hand to hand wise he literally has no good combat moves
1899 Dutch:🤠
1911 Dutch:💀
He doesn’t have a plan,he just knows what to do in tough situations
Knowing what to do in tough situations is the GODDAMN PLAN! ALWAYS HAS BEEN!
@@warpdarkmatter Ok
To borrow a line from Heath Ledger, he’s like a dog chasing cars. He wouldn’t know what to do with one if he caught it.
@@matthewhummel1572 Exactly
Bros making my anxiety go up with this music
Know the name?
@@_I__I_ERROR_I__I_Gallowdance vladnerq remix
@@_I__I_ERROR_I__I_ it's a slowed reverbed version of gallow dance
shame how he lost all his drip
It was snowy where dutch hid, so wearing a tuxedo wouldn't work so well, plus he stayed with the Natives so he was probably introduced to hunter, hand crafted clothing such as pelts.
Same with Javier, he looked like a fucking hobo in RDR1 whereas at least Bill got a wardrobe upgrade
@@xPsykhobro u made me laugh when u called javier a hobo😂
Pity cz he knew he never came to Tahiti
can't even afford a clean shirt
I’m curious just what Dutch got up to in those 4 years, how many innocents slain, how many did he manipulate into following him?
He ultimately turned into Colm not knowing the men he’s riding with or giving a damn about them. Just paying whoever and not giving a damn as long as he has the numbers to keep on riding…
Dude dropped the coldest Dutch edit and thought we wouldn’t notice
This is not cold💀
Just like dutch dropped himself in the cold 🥶
That's years John was the goat
Dutch is the only person who can help somebody at gunpoint and make normal conversation
Pearson wearing winter clothes in Rhodes
Fr
maybe for hiding all the bunnies and chicken he cooked
It’s kinda wild to know that from Dutch’s point of view everything is crumbling around him he does anything he can to get out of any situation he completely loses any sense of what he once was turning into a cold blooded killer who doesn’t care who he kills so long as he gets what he wants a far cry from the great man we once knew back in chapter 1,2,3 and 4
Song - Gallowdance (Vladnerq Remix)-Jamal Cloud
You’re the best bro
Thanks bud
The first young woman he killed in rdr2 was the first of his downfall. The young woman in rdr1 was the last before his fall.
The death of hosea and arthur caused dutch to go insane.
He was already insane when Arthur died. Hosea was what caused him to snap. Walk around the final camp. You can hear Dutch talk about and to nothing.
@@williamhay7705but Arthur was his 3rd member of the gang he treated he more like a son than he did John
@@williamhay7705 u got it all swapped up, hosea died before arthur
@@williamhay7705remember him playing imaginary chess in the swamp lol
@@2_- nah. Just how it's worded.
This is why I want an RDR1 remake
So he has since been dead for a 113 years.. wow
I love how he literally saw him in the 1907 on Mount Hagen when he killed Micah the Rat.
Dutch Van Der Linde will go down as one of the most well written characters in gaming
It’s crazy and awesome how we watch dutch morph into a ruthless villain
I think its fair to say even before shit hit the fan Dutch.. had a few screws loose. But when shit get reals it's like he almost instantly sides with Micah which honestly pissed me off because I saw through Micah the whole time so it was no surprise to me when low and behold.. Micah the Rat. Looking back at RDR1 we see him post trauma after he realizes how bad he royally fucked himself, how many innocent people he murdered, the friends and family he stepped on, and aiding in the death of the only man who ever truly tried to call Dutch his friend.
"Vengeance is a fool's game"
John once met Dutch in 1907 on the last mission
we all know💀
@@galbelol766 Yeah fr dude, this guy is an idiot
Dutch completely transformed into colm odriscoll in red dead 1
Dutch has lost his love, lost his gang and even lost his own raised child. The last thing that he lost, was his sanity
But he will always have GUARMA
Dutch’s eyes in red dead redemption 1 is pure evil
I always forget rdr2 takes place before 1
The choice of background music was a little too good that "It's nice to see you John." accompanied by that music made me feel like I was watching a mental patient go down an episode of a murderous rampage to a point it made me uncomfortable listening to it
Bro finally ran out of plans..
Micah’s wildness was contagious to Dutch, so much so he began enjoying killing, instead of low profile survival.
Since the Blackwater massacre Dutch was never the same, I'd love to see how Dutch was even before
Voice actor for Dutch was so good
I fuckin love when stuff gets spoiled for me, but that’s the benefit of being so late to a game
dutch just went crazy after arthurs death
Compare Dutch from 1899 to 1907. Then compare him from from 1907 to 1911. By the time 1911 rolls around you can tell he his a complete different person and that he has lost it
If you finish rdr2 and play in again you can see him going crazy since the beginning
Dutch was always crazy, he was just kept on a tighter leash with hosea and Arthur around and as long as he had his crew to follow him.
I found a rough draft of the speech he wrote to the gang to reasure them and keep them from running. It proves the he was a manipulator from the beginning and probably never believed the ideological nonsense he always spouted.
Dutch-I have a plan John
John: “I sure hope I never lay eyes on him again 😡”
Mr Pearson:
👁️ 👃👁️
〰️
👄
Johns voice got clearer in those later years lol
Best game fr
Dutch looked like he’s in his 60s in the first rdr
Dutch lost his drip in rdr1
Thats how you know a man is beyond insanity
Holy sh*t this is the first comment i re-read and didn't cringe
Как же меня пугают его будто пустые глаза Датча в RDR1...
Red dead one:end of dutches gang
Red dead two: fall of dutches gang
Red dead three rise of dutches gang and maybe we get to play as young Arthur and the final mission is the black water massicar
And what are we gonna do after that Blackwater mission.
its gonna be about arthurs granddad
@@seventythree79nothing probably since that’s where red dead 2 starts
Dutch went truly mad when he lost Hosea… the whole gang fell apart without him
Rd1 is a masterpiece as rd2 is
Doesn’t Dutch say something about every one at the camp sleeping with Abigail? But then you got micah saying he couldn’t get none unless you put a gun to their head
You think micha gets bitches?
Like a lot of things, Abigail’s backstory got seriously retconned, so she went from being a camp follower who fell for John to one of many women who were a core part of the gang.
he was just insulting him, you know insults don't have to be the truth righ? I hope so
Honestly Dutch turned into a spitting image of colm
All Dutch wanted was to go to Tahiti and eat some mangoes. He did neither. 😢
Man this is just so sad everything that happened from chapter 5 and onwards just breaks my heart and makes me wish the story was different
the foreshadowing in rdr1 is crazy, you can tell they had rdr2 planned when they made rdr1
ummm i seriously doubt that.
No they absolutely did not. 😂
There’s so many things which, which while not outright contradictions, clearly don’t line up with what the implications for the backstory were in 1.
@@Longshanks1690 are you stupid
We have all had her is the coldest line
Something i wonder is if Dutch was always bad or Micah made something snap. We all hate Micah, plus Micah always talks in Dutch's ear, but antagonizes the other gang members.
Dutch is one of the greatest characters ever made best villain and the most interesting character i really liked Dutch I think he really tried too keep the gang together but really his brain injury plus his mental decline plus the stress of the changing of the times and Micah manipulating him too believe everything he says really broke the once family down he became delusional and living in his own head in a fantasy world where everyone could be free but in reality the plan he said never happened he was never going too stop running even though he said one more score and we are gone forever he was mentally gone
It’s amazing how Rockstar games™️ got an game with already existing characters and simultaneously made new & great characters like Charles or Arther
You always have a plan dutch
Rdr 1 dutch is the second to micah in being a menace.
It’s not spoilers if the game has been out for over 10 years if there is a 2 then obviously there’s another one
Wtf so many people didn't play rdr1
… brudda you gotta realize the age gaps going on here lol 😂 there is damn near two generations of young people that have only had the opportunity to play red dead two. A lot of people missed red dead one by five years.
“I have a plan”
i imagine John yelling at Dutch "WHAT HAPPENED TO TAHITI AND MANGOES?!"
Fun fact. I played red dead 2 first. Have yet to play RD1
So what are you waiting for
I like more red dead 1 idk i played first the 1 when i was 12 years old? I finish that Game like 4 times
@@JimiInTheJungle for some reason I haven't payed the 49 dollars for it. I played the 2nd one 3 times. I guess I'm just procrastinating it
@@mrexecutioner4346idk if it’ll hit the same way as people praise it. It came out in 2010 if im not mistaken and was a bomb game for the time but compared to rdr2 it falls short on everything except maybe storytelling. Played RdR1 when I was a preteen and i was 17 when RDR2 came out. Am 22 now and since then have won the game 3 times, just like you. If you have not played the first fame before i’d recommend either watch a video explaining the storyline (cause it really provides a lot of closure on the rdr2 plot), or watching a walkthrough of the first 30 mins of game and if you find it appealing just buy it. But again let me tell you it won’t hit the same way it hit for us who had played it so long ago as when it came out it felt like a top-of-the-line kinda game, and now its kinda the opposite
Hes not a villain, he just has brain damage and manipulated by micah (when micah was alive)
He is 100% a villain. One of rockstars best. Remember what he did to Heidi McCourt
He was crazy from the start, he only revealed it when Micah showed up cuz they were similar to eachother
I actually don't know if he was broken during chapter 5 after hoseas death or if he was evil from the start
dutch became micah in soo many ways but no double welding.
I’ve never played the first red dead, and im now just figuring out that rdr2 was in the past
I feel kinda bad for Dutch, he had everything once, a gang, lots of money, he had Colm killed etc, then he just lost it all, it may be his fault for trusting Micah but he never intended that to happen. He had to slowly watch the gang fall apart, members die, morale being destroyed, no wonder he went absolutely insane in rdr1.
Yeah I z think he started to crack under the pressure of feeling responsible for everyone , then with the Blackwater massacre , I think it ate at him mentally along with losing Mac , Dave’s , Sean , Jenny , Hosea , Lenny , Arthur and ultimately finding out the person he trusted over everyone else contributed to their downfall
Don't forget... He gotta plan too.
We need RDR1 in RDR2!! pls R*
It's weird that after killing micah in American venom, he goes even more insane
I love how john said its red dead redemptioning time and red dead redemptioned all over the place
been a little while since i got one of your videos on my feed, glad to see more from you :)
Welcome back! ❤
This music really matches just how badly Dutch lost his mind, Its Unhinged, Abrasive, Loud, Repetitive, has no logical end, it just builds and builds and builds.
1911 is 12 years after Arthur
Well I mean who else was weary of dutch during there first rdr2 playthrough
🤚
Oh i though people who played Rdr 2 had played Rdr 1 before, it is the first comment section i am on where many people did not play Rdr 1 .. i finished Rdr 2 for the second time since 2018, 2 weeks ago.
And i will replay Rdr 1 one of those days as i kept my copy since 2010 on Ps3. 14 years later and having fresh memories after Replaying Rdr 2, i hope to experience it differently because the game is so old , i wish Rockstard had Remake Rdr 1 the same way The Last Of Us was made again for Ps5 ... ( i never played The Last Of Us 1 because i know what happened in 2 and read about the ending in 1 so i dont know if i should experience TLOU 1 even though i only know how it end and nothing else ? ).
I will not make many friends but John is not on par with Arthur given my old memories of Rdr 1 , i could change my mind but Arthur is the Best and Rockstar did wrote better characters than John : Max Payne in the 3rd and Detective Phelps from L.A Noire ( although i am not sure Phelps was written by Rockstar )
If only Rockstar did a ps5 remaster for RDR1
I believe the best MC for an rdr3 is hosea
Dutch lost his insanity once he figured out he had screwed up everything and had gotten one of his most loyal men killed by their own member and went downhill from there slowly.
Song?
Edit: i found the song
What's the song?
What's the song¿¿??
@@un_random_en_yt9171 it's Gallowdance
Song name pls
Who knows
Red dead redemption 2 is the first and then red dead redemption is the 2 last game of red dead redemption 😢
2010: Who is this guy?
2024:Look what they did to my boy...
Salúdame bro 🎉🎉🎉
hiii thank you so much bro 🫶🏼
song name?
This dude dead ass forgot that John seen Dutch at the cabin on the mountain with Micah. 🙄
"We have to stop meeting like this, John!"
My favorite part is when John says “it’s redemption time” then starts redeeming everywhere
its nice to see you rIp vAn wInKle
Forget every character, mr.Pearson needs his own spinoff
I can’t believe rdr is 14 years old
You can’t not tell me these games had a way better story and gameplay than the GTA games
Yea and online is better
GTA 4 say hi