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Product Review: Winwing F-16 Viper ICP - Integrated Control Panel

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2024
  • Winwing store link: winwingsim.com/
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    00:00 Start
    00:54 WW ad for the ICP
    02:01 Open box
    03:16 SimApp Pro
    04:01 Picture in Picture
    06:03 Pics of our kits
    06:26 Pricing
    07:02 Our thoughts on the ICP
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ความคิดเห็น • 65

  • @NzAviator
    @NzAviator 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    My only thought was it is a bit of a miss not having the screen remove/moveable. Not having this might stop people who are building scale pits from buying it

  • @Blue-6
    @Blue-6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    3 videos in 1 day, nice.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeh, lot of stuff to cover!

  • @BUY.YOUTUB.VIEWS.
    @BUY.YOUTUB.VIEWS. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wish more people on the internet were like you-spreading joy!

  • @ikwilgeenkanaalzeur
    @ikwilgeenkanaalzeur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Looks great!

  • @paulcupach8196
    @paulcupach8196 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In the real world, the toggle switch was often broken when people entered or exited the cockpit.

  • @TheCrash1983
    @TheCrash1983 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    no i am saving for VR, and i am not looking longingly at the wingwin store page

  • @Hartwig870
    @Hartwig870 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    wow, surprised at the price. Figured it would be twice that.

  • @macgeek2112
    @macgeek2112 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    put mine on pre-order today but it's $205.xx in the US store. Still a bargain.

    • @Porkleaker
      @Porkleaker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      worth it!

  • @pinkfloyd7572
    @pinkfloyd7572 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can GR please do a tutorial and review of the Olympus mod? Would love to see that.

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yes BUT I won't get time to look at it until next year.

  • @johnraahauge4552
    @johnraahauge4552 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Does the WinWing software need to be running if you are just using the ICP part?

    • @skilgannon5069
      @skilgannon5069 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No. You can use it without Simapp Pro running, you just won't get the DED display to sync.

  • @ilankeren1449
    @ilankeren1449 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    icp panel... atm machine

    • @keli224
      @keli224 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The "m" in atm already means "machine" so u are saying at(i forgot what they meant) machine machine wich sounds weird

  • @Dcscockpit
    @Dcscockpit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It does look great, I just got mine today, except it’s probably going to be getting returned. The app required to run the icp (which they don’t tell you, nor do they provide a single bit of info on setting up the icp ) re-writes the export lua file and once that happens it will disable ANYTHING else you have that writes to that file including Helios, sim shaker, and most importantly srs. Apparently wineing knows about this, and if they can’t get back to me with a solution it’s getting returned

    • @skilgannon5069
      @skilgannon5069 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not a fan of Simapp Pro, but I have never had any problem with it disabling SRS or any other exports, such as Tacview, Voiceattack etc.

  • @BCSchmerker
    @BCSchmerker 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    +GrimReapersAtomic *Thanks for the preview.* The WinWinGⓇ F-16 Viper ICP is _really_ meant for a "hard" simulator packing Flight Illusion GSA-080 3ATI IAS/Mach and GSA-097 3ATI pressure altimeter as well as two appropriate 20-button MFDs; I'd actually put in for a 3ATI Combination Gyro Indicator incorporating the GSA-141 360/360 roll/pitch mechanism and a yaw-rate gauge with inclinometer consistent with the GSA-075.

    • @baronvonrichthofen2021
      @baronvonrichthofen2021 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The flight illusion gauges are nice, but I can’t find any review, nor can I find compatibility info with DCS. Also, they’re insanely expensive.

  • @doifeellucky
    @doifeellucky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thanks for the review. I’ve read that the new EU store won’t ship to the UK. Can anyone confirm if that is true? In which case with taxes and shipping what is the total cost of this actually likely to be, for anyone who’s previously purchased from the UK? Is there a flat shipping fee, or is it by weight? Basically is it the listed price plus 20/30/40%? Just a ballpark figure would be helpful. Thanks in advance.

    • @death13a
      @death13a 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      UK is not part of EU so you probably need Global Shipping.

    • @Alicatt1
      @Alicatt1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      UK is now a 3rd world country after leaving the EU, so it will have to use the rest of the world shipping, just make sure the price does not have VAT or taxes on it as you will have to pay them on importing. Last thing I imported from the UK to Belgium cost £188 without taxes, then it was shipping @ £35, and handling cost by the shipper (Fedexpress) €35 so that became €292 then VAT on the total @21% = €353.32 or about £306 to import a radio costing £188 - That was still a lot cheaper than buying the same radio in Belgium via the local dealer's shop

    • @Adieu91
      @Adieu91 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably want to allow 30%+ over that list price on the site by the time your card provider (possible foreign currency conversion charge), courier customs fees and import tax (over £135 value) all have their piece. It could be less, but that'd just be a pleasant surprise. It's been a while since I've imported anything but I remember it quickly adding up.

    • @doifeellucky
      @doifeellucky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Adieu91 Thanks for the clarification, much appreciated.

    • @doifeellucky
      @doifeellucky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Alicatt1 Thanks for the feedback.

  • @okcstormchaser
    @okcstormchaser 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm sure this has been mentioned in the past, newly subscribed and thinking of getting a DCS console, but anyone that might've used pagers back in the day, the 1337 is not lost! Upside down spelling leet which honestly I got from irc (internet relay chat), old school kinda new day discord is the best way I can describe it. There's irc networks with multiple servers, (efnet is what I've always used since mid 90s, still kinda check it out today even though it's massively died off since the 2000s/2010s with some OG people still using it, then there were multiple multiple other networks of servers, undernet, dalnet, etc... probably no one will understand wtf I'm talking about lol).
    I'm 2 weeks behind and obviously years behind in gaming, a decade honestly but this channel has piqued my interest for damned sure, looks fun. It's horrible how I've seen some 2 year old videos that'll pop up for suggestions and they have hundreds of thousands of views but have died off. That's terrible.
    Hopefully, my likes might help in a very very little way. Anyways first review video after watching at least 3 dozen random newer videos but starting to scroll back some.
    /random new guy

  • @Munky332
    @Munky332 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wish they would do a cheaper VR option that deosn't have the DED screen. Don't need it for VR, that or replace with with something like an A-10 UFC style control, or some other comm control (a couple extra dual rotary encoders with press would be amazing to have)

    • @EddieLopez711
      @EddieLopez711 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Check simgear no DED little more $ but 🤔 might not bind right with block 50 but might be a update soon.

    • @Munky332
      @Munky332 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@EddieLopez711 Entire point is to be cheaper/simpler. I fly VR, so a DED is completely pointless

  • @viper6783
    @viper6783 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    nice
    🤙🤙👍👍

  • @baronvonrichthofen2021
    @baronvonrichthofen2021 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    On the advertisement the ded looks like it has yellow lettering. But reviews seem to show green lettering. So is it yellow or green?
    Personally I would have preferred it if the ded and it were separate. I understand winwing’s logic, but for me it actually stops me from buying it.

    • @wiwa23
      @wiwa23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is more yellow with my unit. Would have liked the more green tint though.

  • @geekpoet7443
    @geekpoet7443 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Someday when I have about $10k for all the equipment and upgrade my pc again. I spent $4k on my current system 3 years ago but I'd like to get latest and greatest.

  • @StuartBoyer
    @StuartBoyer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Store price for Global is 195 but on the US store its 205, for some reason winwing changed it.

  • @malthus101
    @malthus101 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so... the other panels/screens it clips onto.. are they existing panels for the F-18? do you think WinWing will make a full panel for the F-16 so we don't have to stick it on top so clumsily? :)

  • @leviking9625
    @leviking9625 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In your opinion what would be the better option to grab first? The WW PTO 2 or the ICP panel to supplement my current WW orion 2 hotas setup and VKB rudder pedals

  • @StuartBoyer
    @StuartBoyer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Manual you mentioned as of this time is not on the Global nor US store for Winwing for the ICP.

  • @flajflaj
    @flajflaj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    OK, so this is nor Block50 nor Block60 😅

    • @skilgannon5069
      @skilgannon5069 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Call it the Block55??😂

  • @gunzelloharris3348
    @gunzelloharris3348 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Coolbeanz!!! ;)

  • @joeychef08
    @joeychef08 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Any chance you could do a quick video on key bindings? Im having trouble getting the 4 rollers (axis) to bind.

    • @joeychef08
      @joeychef08 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nevermind...I got it!!! lol

    • @IndiaMikePapa
      @IndiaMikePapa 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@joeychef08how’d you do it??

    • @joeychef08
      @joeychef08 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@IndiaMikePapa you bind them in the controls tab, Axis commands

  • @eatthisvr6
    @eatthisvr6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    what are the external dimensions of this?

    • @wildbillkelso2083
      @wildbillkelso2083 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      280.10mm*108.20mm*135.90mm

    • @eatthisvr6
      @eatthisvr6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      is that height, width, depth?@@wildbillkelso2083

  • @rix911
    @rix911 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The whole point of building a panel this close to scale is to have a scale panel. Putting the display on top totally ruins it.

  • @DMarkwick
    @DMarkwick 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone knows if the display can work in BMS?

  • @patrickthornton5053
    @patrickthornton5053 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey if anybody reading has an answer I really need one; for some reason when I put a ground force on the mission editor it doesn’t load into the mission, do any of y’all have a fix for this?

    • @grimreapers
      @grimreapers  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Have you accidently clicked LATE ACTIVATION? I do that all the friggin time.

    • @patrickthornton5053
      @patrickthornton5053 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@grimreapers no I thought I had, but I didn’t, it’s been an issue the last few days, it will let me spawn in random templates (not ones that I made) but will not let me spawn in any ground vehicle or unit by itself. Thank you so much for responding!

    • @patrickthornton5053
      @patrickthornton5053 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It wasn’t an issue until the new update

  • @rcpilot9963
    @rcpilot9963 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For VR only flyer totally no point to buy this.

  • @calumlittle9828
    @calumlittle9828 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sweet shilling boys.

  • @Jondoe18702
    @Jondoe18702 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Enders Game

  • @weslang4735
    @weslang4735 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can someone post a link to the F105 and f84 mods they got taken down from filehorst

  • @LalaPala-ml2or
    @LalaPala-ml2or 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    pretty cheap compared to the italian competition

  • @robertlee6529
    @robertlee6529 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cheap made in China crap for low-end players.

  • @dexlab7539
    @dexlab7539 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ugh, 4 GR videos in a row of product reviews and training. 😞 😞