It had been a while since we last knew something of the Motomazor. It has kind of fallen out of the limelight recently, and I am glad to see it again, even if it is for a few seconds.
I’m planning to do an episode just on them in the near future. Unfortunately they aren’t common in the known world proper so function mostly as a ‘they’re why we don’t go in the ocean’ than a regular everyday feature
@@TalesofKaimere Oh yeah the Wendigo equivalent and the greek Satyre equivalent on Kaimere ! About the change, it's really a big change ? Because the World like he is currently is stable and is going into a new Dynasty with no more harvest for a very long time !
your aquatic world is infested with unique wonders!! marine species for the price of one! I love how you manage to develop all the evolutionary diversity of Kaimere's wildlife! including the lesser known! also i like your sea grass ecosistem! like a underground aquatic grassland plain and they inhabitans with they green backs!
That was a very pleasant surprise! Also, tbh, I never thought that the Manatees would be this successful. Well, size does make a difference, and most of that, the locations.
honesty I didn't expect that there were 6 species of sea cows in kaimere, so I didn't quite find it believable but you know alot about the natural world than me so great video keenan
The Kurujakcu must have a false pallet similar to crocodiles to stay underwater for that amount of time hunting, crocodiles are said to be in the same lineage as the dinosaurs. I'm impressed with the Manatee subject.
Oh my Christ I just realised that Yakuamun probably means something like "hunter of sea cows" since amun, amunyrha and amunkiko all contain the root "amun" which likely means sea cow
Not since the video on Kaimere’s Probiscians have I been so thrilled to hear of the unexpected success of a clade!!! Of course, their heritage might be instilling bias within me, but nonetheless I’m yet again thrilled to learn even more about the diversity of this world! Social sirenians aren’t what I ever expected, but what I always needed, and it’s nice to hear that the Kentarim are peaceful towards another Afrothere! Honestly, I just need a plush Amunkiko at this point! While not directly related, a question I’ve had for a while is whether or not the Skinchangers of Kaimere could (theoretically, regardless if they do) adopt the morphology of some of these more derived animals, such as these Sirenians and their Probiscian cousins- or are their forms restricted to common and partially carnivorous animals? I can’t help but long to be one of these hypothetical skinchangers- I really want to imagine a Kentarim Skinchanger using this ability to communicate (and maybe even establish a formal alliance and trade) with the Chuga. One final curiosity- though it’s clear where my own biases lie, do you have a particular Kaimeran animal you would wish to be your skinchanger form? Wonderful video, as always- please never stop worldbuilding!
Thank you so much! Skin changers just tent to be social carnivores. Plenty of others out there, and sirenians and chuga are both perfectly viable! Given my love of the sea (as you can imagine by having my fantasy world built around a body of water rather than land being the focal point) I’d probably go with a sea lion or dolphin/small mosasaur!
There some herbivores that Skin-chnagers can transform into, but mainly dangerous herbivores who can defend themselves, like the two specie of Kangaroo who live in the Houze Prairie. Because the Skin-Changer inherit the same animal from their ancestor who change into animal (thank to the magic) because, folowing the urrent main theory, it's was in instinctive counter attack to a specific specie who attack them. For example, when a Kaimeran was attack and hurt by a lion, the magic turn him into a lion to defend himself. So, techniquely, all the harmless animals who not attack people in normal time are not elligible. But if Sirenian was aggressive creatue and attack people, here, this will be as viable and likely. See again the "Living Magic of Kaimere Part 2: Homunculi and their Thralls" video for more detailed informations !
Random question : in a previous commentary in the previous video about the Homotherium of Kaimere, you awnser me that the Tiger of Kaimere have currently one single population who live exlusively in the Cresent Jungle, and his current "revised" specialize form is his current form to perfectly live in this habitat. So, with what you said, must the original generalist form (the one he has before his "revision") be perceived as an extinct form of the species when its range on Kaimere was larger and wider ? In all case, seeing a species of big cat go from a generalist behavior (Tiger first/original form) to a more specialized behavior (Current "revised" Crescent Tiger form) by undergoing an anatomical and color change in the process to better to be adapted to its only environment in which it can move, is interesting to follow ! And you last question ! The Tiger of Kaimere is obviousely not our current tiger, Panthera tigris. So, the Kaimeran Tiger is base on what genus of specie of extinct big cat ?
It is a descendant of a prehistoric cousin of Panthera tigris. It has since evolved into its own species. Since it diverged a bit before Panthera fossilis diverged from the ancestor of Panthera leo, but people still call P. fossilis and spelaea lions, I call this animal the Kaimeran tiger. Modern tigers all have a common ancestor around 100k years ago and this animal was harvested 1.5 million years ago, so you can imagine it’s a very different animal. I still call it a tiger since that’s its closest relative and even though they have yellow fur and more striped rosettes than proper stripes, it’s still very similar to tigers in behavior and appearance aside from superficial color/pattern
@@TalesofKaimere Very interesting and complex origins we have here 😃 ! So not really a real tiger (from real fossil or alive species ancestors) litterally but only by name. But at the moment he ressemble and look like a tiger in a way or an other in term of appearances and behaviors, we are all satisfied and like you said, can be like a tiger specie without problems. Even if some will prefers the ancient origins with the Trinil Tiger and deceived a little by this, for me, I prefer this one than the first because it's make more sens and is a credible origin, since the Trinil Tiger appears at 1,3 millions years to 700 000 years and can't be the ancestor of the Kaimeran Tiger where you said his ancestors came from a period before 1,3 million years.... But here, the problem is resolve ! To be honest, I was a little worried about his revision, but in final you was right and made well this change !
Either I've been curious I've been watching your videos for a long time now how did the tiger fail where the lion exceeded cuz I know tigers are in more areas on the continent but Lions only are in two areas just curious😊
So wetland niche partitioning goes something like this: hippo - generalist, grazer on both terrestial and aquatic vegetation sakur-generalist, browser on both terrestial and aquatic vegetation gao-generalist in eating every acceseble aquatic vegetation ceratopsians-specialists in eating harder aquatic vegetation that can be cut by beak water buffalo-no info so speculatively mainly various species of grass with small addition of aquatic plants
I love manatees. Sirenians are incredible animals. The Gao looks and lives a lot like the Amazonian manatee of our own world. Wait a minute, who's the Amukyuk descended from?
@@TalesofKaimere Well, hypothetically manatees and dugongs are relatives of elephants and share some traits in common, so I may not be too surprised by a sirenian with tusks.
I hope the next episode focuses on the Sauropods of Kaimere, the gods of the Mesozoic had awaited long enough and it is their time to shine in this strange but wonderous world
There’s a lot of art I need to do before the titans are ready and with all their osteoderms it takes a long time. Hoping to have their video ready within the next month or two but that depends on how much time I have
most of the art in this video looks really nice. do you think in the future you'll ever do videos on some of the cultures or maybe major world events like wars, plagues and etc. ?
On earth, there 4 species of Sirenian, 3 species of Manatee and only one specie of Dugong. Here, On Kaimere, and just in the Known World area, there 6 species of Sirenian, 4 species of Dugongs and only 1 specie of Manatee (but maybe there others Manatee specie outside the region, ho known, case to follow for others videos). Despite Manatee and Dugong being very similar by far, there many differences between these two kind of Sirenian (the two being in two different families : the Dugong and Steller Sea Cow/Wa'Ayok in the Dugongidae, and the Manatee in the Trichechidea). First, the main caracteristic which makes it very easy to distinguish the two types from each other, is the shape/form of their caudal tails/ rear fin which they use to propel themselves. In the Dugong, the tail is triangular (similar to most of the fishes like shark), thus in the Manatee, the tail is competely round. In term of behaviors, the two kind are very similar life, but the Dugongs will prefer to live in open water/ocean than the Manatee who prefer to live most in estuaries, littoral or completely in freshwater area like lake or great rivers in the interior of the mainland.
I love the anaconda inspired coloring of the sea serpent! (At least I would assume so) Also, couldn’t some kaimerans just use long boats like viking ships to hunt in the kelp forest? As they have a shallow draft they are well suited to going up river and through shallow water. This design would also help with keeping it from getting tangled up in any kelp.
Heck yeah! Anacondas and a few other pythons worked together to inspire that design. The Akanuk have some ships with shallow hulls for such hunts, but most of their crafts have deep hulls and outriggers for lots of storage and stable ocean travel. They do have crafts more catered to hunting in kelp forests, but even that can be dangerous
I assume the name yakuamun is in reference to their distinct preference for sea cows, aka amun? (My guess is that the name translates roughly to something like "hunts sea cows" or "eater of sea cows")
@@TalesofKaimere then am I also correct to assume that the -gao in yogao and mogao are then also in reference to "gao" being "manatee" and that the people of Kaimere are unaware that the mogao is a dicynodont rather than a sirenian due to them sharing a similar appearance and lifestyle? (sorry i'm a linguistics major and love finding patterns and breaking down the roots of words in conlangs) ("gao" also feels like it might be from a different language than the term "amun", perhaps bc the gao dont live in the inland sea so only those on the northern and western continents would see them while the amun can be encountered by just about any culture that has any sort of coastal territory (apart from the ppl of Kaishel). Of course, that could just be me looking too much into the frequency or infrequency of sounds)
Sure that will be cool to have these animal But keenan said clearly that because there was any real harvest during the Tyrant Dynasty who took place in parallel of much of the Cenozoic until 15 million years ago on both Earth and Kaimere, and it was only after this key date that the Portal began to take hold again species of the earth in kaimere, this means that all eras before 15 million years ago as well as the species that lived there can be forgotten! That means that we can forget the Paleogene (with Paleocene, Eocene and Oligocene), and all of the Lower Miocene (with the Aquitanian and the Burdigalian subdivisions eras). It's only starting to the beginning of the superior Miocene we can ask. That means no little three hoof horses, any Gastornis, any Uintatherium, any Brontotherium, any Basilosaurus, Ambulocetus, Leptictidium, Boverisuchus etc... or relatives and descendants of these later on Kaimere too ! But at the same time, that will make too many animals/groups/clades/families. Even as exciting and beloved we love them all and wish they were there, on the planet to make, and realistiquely, most of them would most likely not be alive on Kaimere today.
@@dudotolivier6363 Thanks for the informative explanation. Though i said „resembling“, like a giant galloping Lusowice as a stand in for a great beast of mordor
@@TalesofKaimere ok Let’s start with the smallest The sea camel It’s a species of dugong that has adapted to have small boar like tusks and with a hump of the back and camel like eyes ( for seeing through sand clouds ) They are the size of a small car Sea sloth ( you inspired me to make this guy so thank you 😁 ) So picture a descendent of a thallosocanus that’s had to grow a dolphin like tail to swim better along with a “fin” on the back with claws to defend it self They’re the size of a small truck The zozogos ( beaked behemoth ) The descendent of Koreaceratops With a long newt like tail and with raised nostrils for easy breathing And it’s limbs have adapted into a hadrosaur like state both a quadruped and a biped ( it’s claws used as both digging and defence ) The size is similar of a amargosaurus And finally the biggest ( in the warm waters at least ) The greater hawksbill turtle It’s one of the descendents of the archeleon turtle and it’s specialised to eat 1 ton of sea grass a year with claws on it’s flippers ( making people thinks it’s cousin of the hawksbill turtle ) and there shell growing sharp ridges on the sides and top their tail meanwhile gaining a fluke for faster swimming You like ?
Here's some facts of Objecian Sirenians: They often live in kelp forests due to Objecia's colder climate, which causes a lack of seaweed meadows. Another reason: Very aggressive predators. Out at the seaweed meadows, Spiked Sharks guard the seaweed meadows. Any Sirenian that goes there will get eaten. Despite it being unlikely, Objecia has a few species of Sirenians. 3 look like Manatees, while the other 5 look more like Dugongs.
And also, Objecia's Sirenians are scared of boats. At least there aren't many boats on Objecia, as the objects prefer taking the train across the ocean using glass tunnels.
Because there the Steller Sea Cow on Kaimere, are there the others species animals who live in the same place than her on earth too ? In this case : the Pallas Comorant (Phalacrocorax perspicillatus, extinct on earth), the Steller's Eider (Polysticta stelleri, alive), the Sea Otter (Enhydra lutris, alive), the Monk Puffin (Fratercula arctica), the Northern Fulmar (Fulmarus glacialis), the Guillemot (Uria aalge), the Thick-billed Guillemot (Uria lomvia), the Horned Puffin (Fratercula corniculata), the Tufted Puffin (Fratercula cirrhata) and the Dall's porpoise (Phocoenoides dalli) ?
It was harvested from the northern Atlantic 800k years ago, alongside the steppe mammoth and Panthera fossilis. This is in the same genus as the Steller’s sea cow, but a different species.
@@TalesofKaimere Yes, a sister specie, term which mean the most closely related specie to an other in the same genus either if the two descend from a common ancestor or one of them bieng the direct ancestor specie of the others. In this case, like you explain yourself in one of your Facebook account post, the hydrodamalis gigas was harvested in Kaimere and evolve into a new specie. At 800K years ago, there was only one specie of this genus and it's was the same who became extinct by man (only one specie of Hydrodamalis is reconize) and at this era, her repartition range was bigger than the one when she was discovered by mariner. It's was a relical specie when men discovers this specie. Like others sister specie, for example, there were the Bison priscus, who is the direct ancestor of the current European bison (bison bonasus). And because this extinct specie is the most closely related specie to this current specie rather than the American bison (bison bison), the term sister specie is valid. This scientific term is one of these terms in science to be carefull because he can make a lot of misunderstanding and mistake !
@@dudotolivier6363 Hydrodamalis gigas lived in the Pacific, not the Atlantic. Same goes with H. Spissa and H. Cuestae. So I assume the Wa'Ayok is descended from a hypothetical, made-up species of hydrodamalis as none in real life were really present in the Atlantic.
@@ryanchen1819 So it's a great mistake Keenan made. So for the need of the video, and the universe of Kaimere, we will said that there were Steller Sea Cow in the Atlantic and were harvested in Kaimere to become the Wa'Ayok. Because it's the most famous specie and because it's impossible that a non describe specie of the genus can't live instead because 800k years ago was a very recent time in geological term and if there were fossils of a unidentify specie of the genus who live in permanence in this area, we should find at least some of these since a very long time. With a very small population of Steller Sea Cow or even accidental lost specimens outside their repartion range, it's normal to find any fossil, even more if the specimens in question were harvested. In addition, Hydrodamalis was thé closest specie in term of repartition range to the area of the 800k years ago harvest. The others being even more distant repartition range.
Because Kaimere is bigger and ,overall, way warmer than earth, and taking into account that like on earth the seas and oceans recovers the biggest surface of the planet than the continents all reunited, it's not surprising at all that every aquatic/marine mammals or reptiles on earth and introduce of Kaimere received all a diversity success equal or even better on Kaimere. Because there much more place and food thank to the size of the planet/oceans and the hot temperature, who let all this all this "small" marine community enough place and subsistence to live together without too much problem ! In all famillies and groups, even compared to the current stats on earth for the groups always alive on this later, there much more species diversity, testifying to this fact, despite the admittedly great but nevertheless fair competition here.
Random question : From the draft/preparatory drawing you post on your Facebook/Twitter account regalary to the final result we see in your videos (and you post as weel in your Facebook/Twitter account), you draw really fast and well! In general, how long do you take to make a drawing (and excluding the coloring part)?
@@TalesofKaimere It's impressive ! You made how number of school art to arrive to this respectful level ? Because when it's about the coloring it's seem you're fast !
@@TalesofKaimere In our world, in many time in past history, some people or society has kept large cats and pantherinae/feline species like the Cheetah or the Snow Leopard (who are really big cats who can be easily keep like normal pets without any real problem!). So, on Kiamre, are there some kaimeran who keep as pet some large feline specie like the leopard, the lion or the tiger ?
The Wa'Ayok is a sister specie of the Steller Sea Cow (Hydrodamalis gigas), the famous specie badly know to become extinct in only 27 years (a record), but haven't any real overall differences between her and the others. This specie is the biggest current Sirenian specie in the Known World. She a perfect cold adapted animal, and is mainly a surface marine creature because her body is made to float as naturally as possible. This ability was the big weakness for the Steller Sea Cow on earth since she was by this fact a easy target for the hunters. But the Wa'Ayok is not a specie who is hunted by anyone, and even if the case happen, his existence is not treaten. In fact, the Wa'Ayok is the direct progeny/descendants of the Steller Sea Cow since there was no other giant sirenian specie like this later and who live with her at the 804-770 kya Ice Age Harvest in the Northern Eurasian Pleistocene, and who was introduce instead her. Here, on Kaimere, during this harvest, it's the Steller Sea Cow who was introduce, and, with time, evolved to a new complete separate specie here named the Wa'Ayok (but this specie still in the same Hydrodamalis genus). A "sister specie" is a term who not mean that a specie is a already existing specie that an other specie can have like relative and present in the same genus than her, but means that a single specific specie is the closest phylogenetically to another single specific specie, regardless of ancestry. A specie can have like sister specie a specie who is his direct ancestor. For example, the extinct Bison priscus is the sister specie of the current European bison (Bison bonasus), despite being an direct ancestor (which is the current case) rather a specie which could have evolved with the European Bison from a common ancestor and being in this later case a literal sister specie to the European bison (hwich is not the case). I made this commentary to explain that in science, this kind of scientific terms must be taken alway literally and can make mistake and confusion when use whithout recul, knowledge or enough understanding about his definition.
@@TalesofKaimere Yes, if they eat a plant or anything with a hive of magic inside who love his previous host, she will transform the sirenian to a hybrid between a sirenian and the hive's host thing he eat. Like the Wolf who become half deer after eating one. These kind of creatures are rare in the Known World and on the entire planet herself, and called demons.
As the Wa'Ayok were able to swim over the Polar Sea to Kaishel, as they can't submerge themselves and seem to be two-dimensional swimmers, how exactly do they defend themselves from predators bigger than they are?
Kelp forests are their best defense. Echolocators struggle to find them and there’s a huge entanglement and drowning risk if you aren’t careful. Orcas generally rely on drowning to take out prey and it was remarked while Stellar’s sea cows were alive that orcas generally couldn’t take them out since they were too buoyant to drown. They also have pretty significant tusks and a powerful tail that helps fend off some threats. They avoid open water since they are vulnerable but they’re not just passive masses of meat
@@TalesofKaimere I see, though how were they able to get from the Known World to Kaishel as they’re a shallow water species? How deep is the Polar Sea?
The Sirenian are named from the mythological Sirens/mermaids of European culture (the fish like woman, ones, not the greek bird ones, despite the word siren refering this later kind thus mermaid refereing the fish like kind), because it's these animals who are the main major inspiration from this fantastical creature ! It's because mariner and explorators on boat, especially during the Christophe Colomb era and the first time of the colonisation of America, see these creature from far that, after misindentification and mistake from these people, they thought to be, and have seen, woman with the inferior of their body to be fish like ! When we compared a current sirenian with a generic mermaid of our cultur .... well ... it's true the sexyness and the beautiful aspect is not really apparent and the explorators must see the from verrrry far to made this result, but overall, it's true there some similarities wan make some confusion ! Ironiquely, on Kaimere, there Sirenian and true mermaids as the same time ! (there many mermaids species, created by the First Children, and are homunculi like the Harpies or demons).
Well there are certainly life forms endemic to the planet in the sense that they are only found there (all nonavian dinosaurs are endemic in that they are not found on Earth), but I assume you mean that are evolved with no Earth ancestors. All plants and animals are descended from Earth ancestors, but the magic and many other unicellular organisms have evolved with no Earth ancestors.
@@TalesofKaimere okay I meant endemic. As in don't exist on Earth but Earth ancestors not aliens I mean they evolve on Kaimare from animals from Earth but they aren't found on Earth do you understand
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It had been a while since we last knew something of the Motomazor. It has kind of fallen out of the limelight recently, and I am glad to see it again, even if it is for a few seconds.
I’m planning to do an episode just on them in the near future. Unfortunately they aren’t common in the known world proper so function mostly as a ‘they’re why we don’t go in the ocean’ than a regular everyday feature
Kaimere was what first introduced me to spectative biology and it's now a favorite of mine.
I’m so glad to hear it! Such a fun topic
@Marshal Marrs Going to be on the tricksters of Kaimere and a major announcement about a change in Kaimere's context!
@@TalesofKaimere Change? Uh oh.
@@TalesofKaimere Oh yeah the Wendigo equivalent and the greek Satyre equivalent on Kaimere !
About the change, it's really a big change ? Because the World like he is currently is stable and is going into a new Dynasty with no more harvest for a very long time !
Just what I needed before heading off for bed
Same
your aquatic world is infested with unique wonders!! marine species for the price of one! I love how you manage to develop all the evolutionary diversity of Kaimere's wildlife! including the lesser known! also i like your sea grass ecosistem! like a underground aquatic grassland plain and they inhabitans with they green backs!
That was a very pleasant surprise! Also, tbh, I never thought that the Manatees would be this successful. Well, size does make a difference, and most of that, the locations.
honesty I didn't expect that there were 6 species of sea cows in kaimere, so I didn't quite find it believable but you know alot about the natural world than me so great video keenan
The Kurujakcu must have a false pallet similar to crocodiles to stay underwater for that amount of time hunting, crocodiles are said to be in the same lineage as the dinosaurs. I'm impressed with the Manatee subject.
It does indeed!
ah yes the Ancient rival
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I'm running out of ways to praise your work.
Thank you! #goals
How are you such a great artist? Your so good!
Thank you!!!
Oh my Christ I just realised that Yakuamun probably means something like "hunter of sea cows" since amun, amunyrha and amunkiko all contain the root "amun" which likely means sea cow
Happy sea cow y'all!
Not since the video on Kaimere’s Probiscians have I been so thrilled to hear of the unexpected success of a clade!!! Of course, their heritage might be instilling bias within me, but nonetheless I’m yet again thrilled to learn even more about the diversity of this world! Social sirenians aren’t what I ever expected, but what I always needed, and it’s nice to hear that the Kentarim are peaceful towards another Afrothere! Honestly, I just need a plush Amunkiko at this point!
While not directly related, a question I’ve had for a while is whether or not the Skinchangers of Kaimere could (theoretically, regardless if they do) adopt the morphology of some of these more derived animals, such as these Sirenians and their Probiscian cousins- or are their forms restricted to common and partially carnivorous animals? I can’t help but long to be one of these hypothetical skinchangers- I really want to imagine a Kentarim Skinchanger using this ability to communicate (and maybe even establish a formal alliance and trade) with the Chuga.
One final curiosity- though it’s clear where my own biases lie, do you have a particular Kaimeran animal you would wish to be your skinchanger form? Wonderful video, as always- please never stop worldbuilding!
Thank you so much! Skin changers just tent to be social carnivores. Plenty of others out there, and sirenians and chuga are both perfectly viable! Given my love of the sea (as you can imagine by having my fantasy world built around a body of water rather than land being the focal point) I’d probably go with a sea lion or dolphin/small mosasaur!
There some herbivores that Skin-chnagers can transform into, but mainly dangerous herbivores who can defend themselves, like the two specie of Kangaroo who live in the Houze Prairie.
Because the Skin-Changer inherit the same animal from their ancestor who change into animal (thank to the magic) because, folowing the urrent main theory, it's was in instinctive counter attack to a specific specie who attack them.
For example, when a Kaimeran was attack and hurt by a lion, the magic turn him into a lion to defend himself.
So, techniquely, all the harmless animals who not attack people in normal time are not elligible. But if Sirenian was aggressive creatue and attack people, here, this will be as viable and likely.
See again the "Living Magic of Kaimere Part 2: Homunculi and their Thralls" video for more detailed informations !
Nice to see sirenians in Kaimere
I think that is cool manatees are living in Kaimere but have become gigantic but are still the cute gentle giants they are normally portrayed.
New Kaimere yes
I love all these species you come up with.
Kiamere manatees: face huge reptilian leviathans and sharks
Earth manatees: boat propellers
Pour one out for the homies
@@TalesofKaimere yes raise a glass for the sea potatoes
*When you click on a Kaimere video and you want to watch but you hear banjos and your instincts from growing up in the south tell you to run.* 👀
Goddamnit Steve you made me choke on my coffee with that one 😂
One note to probably correct
10:37 Stellar's Sea Cow didn't live near Europe and Greenland, they lived over by Russia and Alaska in the Bering Sea
Yeah that does complicate things. Will likely result in their ancestors being a bit more ancient and converging on similar cold adaptations
@@TalesofKaimere that can work too :)
Yes finally manatees get their well deserved attention
Much deserved indeed!
Happy manatee day! Good to know that sirenians are doing great. The selection of species in the known world is pretty interesting
Thanks!!
Random question : in a previous commentary in the previous video about the Homotherium of Kaimere, you awnser me that the Tiger of Kaimere have currently one single population who live exlusively in the Cresent Jungle, and his current "revised" specialize form is his current form to perfectly live in this habitat.
So, with what you said, must the original generalist form (the one he has before his "revision") be perceived as an extinct form of the species when its range on Kaimere was larger and wider ?
In all case, seeing a species of big cat go from a generalist behavior (Tiger first/original form) to a more specialized behavior (Current "revised" Crescent Tiger form) by undergoing an anatomical and color change in the process to better to be adapted to its only environment in which it can move, is interesting to follow !
And you last question ! The Tiger of Kaimere is obviousely not our current tiger, Panthera tigris.
So, the Kaimeran Tiger is base on what genus of specie of extinct big cat ?
It is a descendant of a prehistoric cousin of Panthera tigris. It has since evolved into its own species. Since it diverged a bit before Panthera fossilis diverged from the ancestor of Panthera leo, but people still call P. fossilis and spelaea lions, I call this animal the Kaimeran tiger. Modern tigers all have a common ancestor around 100k years ago and this animal was harvested 1.5 million years ago, so you can imagine it’s a very different animal. I still call it a tiger since that’s its closest relative and even though they have yellow fur and more striped rosettes than proper stripes, it’s still very similar to tigers in behavior and appearance aside from superficial color/pattern
@@TalesofKaimere Very interesting and complex origins we have here 😃 !
So not really a real tiger (from real fossil or alive species ancestors) litterally but only by name.
But at the moment he ressemble and look like a tiger in a way or an other in term of appearances and behaviors, we are all satisfied and like you said, can be like a tiger specie without problems.
Even if some will prefers the ancient origins with the Trinil Tiger and deceived a little by this, for me, I prefer this one than the first because it's make more sens and is a credible origin, since the Trinil Tiger appears at 1,3 millions years to 700 000 years and can't be the ancestor of the Kaimeran Tiger where you said his ancestors came from a period before 1,3 million years....
But here, the problem is resolve !
To be honest, I was a little worried about his revision, but in final you was right and made well this change !
Either I've been curious I've been watching your videos for a long time now how did the tiger fail where the lion exceeded cuz I know tigers are in more areas on the continent but Lions only are in two areas just curious😊
So wetland niche partitioning goes something like this:
hippo - generalist, grazer on both terrestial and aquatic vegetation
sakur-generalist, browser on both terrestial and aquatic vegetation
gao-generalist in eating every acceseble aquatic vegetation
ceratopsians-specialists in eating harder aquatic vegetation that can be cut by beak
water buffalo-no info so speculatively mainly various species of grass with small addition of aquatic plants
Yes indeed! Water buffalo tend to be grass specialists and have taken a population hit since the arrival of the common hippo
Another sick showcase
Love these guys, keep eating that green goodness cousins to my favorite animal
Oh I just love manatees! They're so wrinkle-ly! Anyway nice video and nice to see that manatees come in different shapes and sizes on Kaimere!
I will protect the Amunkiko with MY LIFE
This is the way
Did dugongs make it to kaimere
manatees are really cool, its nice to see them getting their own video!
I love manatees. Sirenians are incredible animals. The Gao looks and lives a lot like the Amazonian manatee of our own world. Wait a minute, who's the Amukyuk descended from?
It’s descended from a fictional American species/cousin of Rytiodus
@@TalesofKaimere Well, hypothetically manatees and dugongs are relatives of elephants and share some traits in common, so I may not be too surprised by a sirenian with tusks.
I hope the next episode focuses on the Sauropods of Kaimere, the gods of the Mesozoic had awaited long enough and it is their time to shine in this strange but wonderous world
There’s a lot of art I need to do before the titans are ready and with all their osteoderms it takes a long time. Hoping to have their video ready within the next month or two but that depends on how much time I have
most of the art in this video looks really nice. do you think in the future you'll ever do videos on some of the cultures or maybe major world events like wars, plagues and etc. ?
Thank you! Yes I do plan on more videos exploring Kaimeran cultures and historical events
On earth, there 4 species of Sirenian, 3 species of Manatee and only one specie of Dugong. Here, On Kaimere, and just in the Known World area, there 6 species of Sirenian, 4 species of Dugongs and only 1 specie of Manatee (but maybe there others Manatee specie outside the region, ho known, case to follow for others videos).
Despite Manatee and Dugong being very similar by far, there many differences between these two kind of Sirenian (the two being in two different families : the Dugong and Steller Sea Cow/Wa'Ayok in the Dugongidae, and the Manatee in the Trichechidea).
First, the main caracteristic which makes it very easy to distinguish the two types from each other, is the shape/form of their caudal tails/
rear fin which they use to propel themselves. In the Dugong, the tail is triangular (similar to most of the fishes like shark), thus in the Manatee, the tail is competely round.
In term of behaviors, the two kind are very similar life, but the Dugongs will prefer to live in open water/ocean than the Manatee who prefer to live most in estuaries, littoral or completely in freshwater area like lake or great rivers in the interior of the mainland.
Permian island when?!
Still chipping away at the Eastern continent overview but hoping to have the Permian Island overview done over the summer!
Keenan Taylor's Tales of Kaimere oki but what about the languages of kaimere video?
I love the anaconda inspired coloring of the sea serpent! (At least I would assume so)
Also, couldn’t some kaimerans just use long boats like viking ships to hunt in the kelp forest? As they have a shallow draft they are well suited to going up river and through shallow water. This design would also help with keeping it from getting tangled up in any kelp.
Heck yeah! Anacondas and a few other pythons worked together to inspire that design.
The Akanuk have some ships with shallow hulls for such hunts, but most of their crafts have deep hulls and outriggers for lots of storage and stable ocean travel. They do have crafts more catered to hunting in kelp forests, but even that can be dangerous
@@TalesofKaimere It's your freshwater plesiosaur referencing the Loch Ness Monster or it's an other one we haven't not yet see ?
I assume the name yakuamun is in reference to their distinct preference for sea cows, aka amun? (My guess is that the name translates roughly to something like "hunts sea cows" or "eater of sea cows")
Yup!
@@TalesofKaimere then am I also correct to assume that the -gao in yogao and mogao are then also in reference to "gao" being "manatee" and that the people of Kaimere are unaware that the mogao is a dicynodont rather than a sirenian due to them sharing a similar appearance and lifestyle? (sorry i'm a linguistics major and love finding patterns and breaking down the roots of words in conlangs)
("gao" also feels like it might be from a different language than the term "amun", perhaps bc the gao dont live in the inland sea so only those on the northern and western continents would see them while the amun can be encountered by just about any culture that has any sort of coastal territory (apart from the ppl of Kaishel). Of course, that could just be me looking too much into the frequency or infrequency of sounds)
Anything resembling a uintatherium or arsinoitherium.
Or great beasts from mordor? An embelotherium with bellowing sounds from a trumpetlike snout?
Sure that will be cool to have these animal
But keenan said clearly that because there was any real harvest during the Tyrant Dynasty who took place in parallel of much of the Cenozoic until 15 million years ago on both Earth and Kaimere, and it was only after this key date that the Portal began to take hold again species of the earth in kaimere, this means that all eras before 15 million years ago as well as the species that lived there can be forgotten!
That means that we can forget the Paleogene (with Paleocene, Eocene and Oligocene), and all of the Lower Miocene (with the Aquitanian and the Burdigalian subdivisions eras). It's only starting to the beginning of the superior Miocene we can ask.
That means no little three hoof horses, any Gastornis, any Uintatherium, any Brontotherium, any Basilosaurus, Ambulocetus, Leptictidium, Boverisuchus etc... or relatives and descendants of these later on Kaimere too !
But at the same time, that will make too many animals/groups/clades/families.
Even as exciting and beloved we love them all and wish they were there, on the planet to make, and realistiquely, most of them would most likely not be alive on Kaimere today.
@@dudotolivier6363
Thanks for the informative explanation.
Though i said „resembling“, like a giant galloping
Lusowice as a stand in for a great beast of mordor
@@TerranArt Not at all ! It's was fun to explain this detail.
@@dudotolivier6363 lol it‘s appreciated
Wanna hear about the sea grass grazers in the biodome ?
Sure hit me up!
@@TalesofKaimere ok
Let’s start with the smallest
The sea camel
It’s a species of dugong that has adapted to have small boar like tusks and with a hump of the back and camel like eyes ( for seeing through sand clouds )
They are the size of a small car
Sea sloth ( you inspired me to make this guy so thank you 😁 )
So picture a descendent of a thallosocanus that’s had to grow a dolphin like tail to swim better along with a “fin” on the back with claws to defend it self
They’re the size of a small truck
The zozogos ( beaked behemoth )
The descendent of Koreaceratops
With a long newt like tail and with raised nostrils for easy breathing
And it’s limbs have adapted into a hadrosaur like state both a quadruped and a biped ( it’s claws used as both digging and defence )
The size is similar of a amargosaurus
And finally the biggest ( in the warm waters at least )
The greater hawksbill turtle
It’s one of the descendents of the archeleon turtle and it’s specialised to eat 1 ton of sea grass a year with claws on it’s flippers ( making people thinks it’s cousin of the hawksbill turtle ) and there shell growing sharp ridges on the sides and top their tail meanwhile gaining a fluke for faster swimming
You like ?
Here's some facts of Objecian Sirenians: They often live in kelp forests due to Objecia's colder climate, which causes a lack of seaweed meadows. Another reason: Very aggressive predators. Out at the seaweed meadows, Spiked Sharks guard the seaweed meadows. Any Sirenian that goes there will get eaten. Despite it being unlikely, Objecia has a few species of Sirenians. 3 look like Manatees, while the other 5 look more like Dugongs.
And also, Objecia's Sirenians are scared of boats. At least there aren't many boats on Objecia, as the objects prefer taking the train across the ocean using glass tunnels.
Did you know that the amukyuk Is more similar to the famous walrus whale(odobenocetops)?
Yup! Was a bit of a nod to that (although I may be integrating a tropical species of Odobenocetops in the northern seas)
Why are manatees often designated drivers for their friends?
Because that clade has man-y tee-totallers!
How do sirenians directly interact with their competitors?
Because there the Steller Sea Cow on Kaimere, are there the others species animals who live in the same place than her on earth too ?
In this case : the Pallas Comorant (Phalacrocorax perspicillatus, extinct on earth), the Steller's Eider (Polysticta stelleri, alive), the Sea Otter (Enhydra lutris, alive), the Monk Puffin (Fratercula arctica), the Northern Fulmar (Fulmarus glacialis), the Guillemot (Uria aalge), the Thick-billed Guillemot (Uria lomvia), the Horned Puffin (Fratercula corniculata), the Tufted Puffin (Fratercula cirrhata) and the Dall's porpoise (Phocoenoides dalli) ?
It was harvested from the northern Atlantic 800k years ago, alongside the steppe mammoth and Panthera fossilis. This is in the same genus as the Steller’s sea cow, but a different species.
@@TalesofKaimere Isn't hydrodamalis from the North Pacific.
@@TalesofKaimere Yes, a sister specie, term which mean the most closely related specie to an other in the same genus either if the two descend from a common ancestor or one of them bieng the direct ancestor specie of the others.
In this case, like you explain yourself in one of your Facebook account post, the hydrodamalis gigas was harvested in Kaimere and evolve into a new specie.
At 800K years ago, there was only one specie of this genus and it's was the same who became extinct by man (only one specie of Hydrodamalis is reconize) and at this era, her repartition range was bigger than the one when she was discovered by mariner. It's was a relical specie when men discovers this specie.
Like others sister specie, for example, there were the Bison priscus, who is the direct ancestor of the current European bison (bison bonasus). And because this extinct specie is the most closely related specie to this current specie rather than the American bison (bison bison), the term sister specie is valid.
This scientific term is one of these terms in science to be carefull because he can make a lot of misunderstanding and mistake !
@@dudotolivier6363 Hydrodamalis gigas lived in the Pacific, not the Atlantic. Same goes with H. Spissa and H. Cuestae. So I assume the Wa'Ayok is descended from a hypothetical, made-up species of hydrodamalis as none in real life were really present in the Atlantic.
@@ryanchen1819 So it's a great mistake Keenan made. So for the need of the video, and the universe of Kaimere, we will said that there were Steller Sea Cow in the Atlantic and were harvested in Kaimere to become the Wa'Ayok. Because it's the most famous specie and because it's impossible that a non describe specie of the genus can't live instead because 800k years ago was a very recent time in geological term and if there were fossils of a unidentify specie of the genus who live in permanence in this area, we should find at least some of these since a very long time. With a very small population of Steller Sea Cow or even accidental lost specimens outside their repartion range, it's normal to find any fossil, even more if the specimens in question were harvested. In addition, Hydrodamalis was thé closest specie in term of repartition range to the area of the 800k years ago harvest. The others being even more distant repartition range.
Because Kaimere is bigger and ,overall, way warmer than earth, and taking into account that like on earth the seas and oceans recovers the biggest surface of the planet than the continents all reunited, it's not surprising at all that every aquatic/marine mammals or reptiles on earth and introduce of Kaimere received all a diversity success equal or even better on Kaimere. Because there much more place and food thank to the size of the planet/oceans and the hot temperature, who let all this all this "small" marine community enough place and subsistence to live together without too much problem !
In all famillies and groups, even compared to the current stats on earth for the groups always alive on this later, there much more species diversity, testifying to this fact, despite the admittedly great but nevertheless fair competition here.
Random question : From the draft/preparatory drawing you post on your Facebook/Twitter account regalary to the final result we see in your videos (and you post as weel in your Facebook/Twitter account), you draw really fast and well!
In general, how long do you take to make a drawing (and excluding the coloring part)?
Thank you! Usually takes between and hour and two depending on how much research I have to do and how complex the drawing is.
@@TalesofKaimere It's impressive !
You made how number of school art to arrive to this respectful level ?
Because when it's about the coloring it's seem you're fast !
What animal do Kiameren's keep as pets/familiars
A bunch! Kaimerans try and keep anything they can as pets. They just like to experiment. Doesn’t always go well lol
@@TalesofKaimere In our world, in many time in past history, some people or society has kept large cats and pantherinae/feline species like the Cheetah or the Snow Leopard (who are really big cats who can be easily keep like normal pets without any real problem!). So, on Kiamre, are there some kaimeran who keep as pet some large feline specie like the leopard, the lion or the tiger ?
The Wa'Ayok is a sister specie of the Steller Sea Cow (Hydrodamalis gigas), the famous specie badly know to become extinct in only 27 years (a record), but haven't any real overall differences between her and the others. This specie is the biggest current Sirenian specie in the Known World. She a perfect cold adapted animal, and is mainly a surface marine creature because her body is made to float as naturally as possible. This ability was the big weakness for the Steller Sea Cow on earth since she was by this fact a easy target for the hunters. But the Wa'Ayok is not a specie who is hunted by anyone, and even if the case happen, his existence is not treaten.
In fact, the Wa'Ayok is the direct progeny/descendants of the Steller Sea Cow since there was no other giant sirenian specie like this later and who live with her at the 804-770 kya Ice Age Harvest in the Northern Eurasian Pleistocene, and who was introduce instead her.
Here, on Kaimere, during this harvest, it's the Steller Sea Cow who was introduce, and, with time, evolved to a new complete separate specie here named the Wa'Ayok (but this specie still in the same Hydrodamalis genus).
A "sister specie" is a term who not mean that a specie is a already existing specie that an other specie can have like relative and present in the same genus than her, but means that a single specific specie is the closest phylogenetically to another single specific specie, regardless of ancestry.
A specie can have like sister specie a specie who is his direct ancestor.
For example, the extinct Bison priscus is the sister specie of the current European bison (Bison bonasus), despite being an direct ancestor (which is the current case) rather a specie which could have evolved with the European Bison from a common ancestor and being in this later case a literal sister specie to the European bison (hwich is not the case).
I made this commentary to explain that in science, this kind of scientific terms must be taken alway literally and can make mistake and confusion when use whithout recul, knowledge or enough understanding about his definition.
"Must be NOT be taken always litterally" 😱 I said in the end of the text.
Sorry for this writting error due to an oversight on my part. 😥
can the magic mutate them dramatically without fully controlling them?
Sometimes yes
@@TalesofKaimere Yes, if they eat a plant or anything with a hive of magic inside who love his previous host, she will transform the sirenian to a hybrid between a sirenian and the hive's host thing he eat.
Like the Wolf who become half deer after eating one.
These kind of creatures are rare in the Known World and on the entire planet herself, and called demons.
Speaking of Afrotherian, is Rock Hyrax on Kaimere ?
Haven’t determined yet.
@@TalesofKaimere Same for the Macroscelidae or "Fasle Shrew" who live in Africa (like Rhynchocyon or Elephantulus genus) ?
Are there any fish species that feed off the algae on the manatees backs?
Like a sucker fish or pleco?
None canon but almost certainly down the road!
how are rauisuchians in kaimere or did the go extinct during the dynastic extinction
As the Wa'Ayok were able to swim over the Polar Sea to Kaishel, as they can't submerge themselves and seem to be two-dimensional swimmers, how exactly do they defend themselves from predators bigger than they are?
Kelp forests are their best defense. Echolocators struggle to find them and there’s a huge entanglement and drowning risk if you aren’t careful. Orcas generally rely on drowning to take out prey and it was remarked while Stellar’s sea cows were alive that orcas generally couldn’t take them out since they were too buoyant to drown. They also have pretty significant tusks and a powerful tail that helps fend off some threats. They avoid open water since they are vulnerable but they’re not just passive masses of meat
@@TalesofKaimere I see, though how were they able to get from the Known World to Kaishel as they’re a shallow water species? How deep is the Polar Sea?
Another thing are you gonna make a video in the future about Permian Island or this already a video about it?!
No video yet. Hoping to have it ready by the summer
@@TalesofKaimere Cool!
The Sirenian are named from the mythological Sirens/mermaids of European culture (the fish like woman, ones, not the greek bird ones, despite the word siren refering this later kind thus mermaid refereing the fish like kind), because it's these animals who are the main major inspiration from this fantastical creature !
It's because mariner and explorators on boat, especially during the Christophe Colomb era and the first time of the colonisation of America, see these creature from far that, after misindentification and mistake from these people, they thought to be, and have seen, woman with the inferior of their body to be fish like !
When we compared a current sirenian with a generic mermaid of our cultur .... well ... it's true the sexyness and the beautiful aspect is not really apparent and the explorators must see the from verrrry far to made this result, but overall, it's true there some similarities wan make some confusion !
Ironiquely, on Kaimere, there Sirenian and true mermaids as the same time ! (there many mermaids species, created by the First Children, and are homunculi like the Harpies or demons).
Are there any Giraffes in Kaimere?
Not the genus or species we have today, but there is a species of Sivatherium
Are there any endemic life forms of Kaimare. Do you know what endemic means
Well there are certainly life forms endemic to the planet in the sense that they are only found there (all nonavian dinosaurs are endemic in that they are not found on Earth), but I assume you mean that are evolved with no Earth ancestors. All plants and animals are descended from Earth ancestors, but the magic and many other unicellular organisms have evolved with no Earth ancestors.
@@TalesofKaimere okay I meant endemic. As in don't exist on Earth but Earth ancestors not aliens I mean they evolve on Kaimare from animals from Earth but they aren't found on Earth do you understand
@@youtubejosephwm6699 I understand and yes, most of the animals of Kaimere are endemic.
@@TalesofKaimere okay
Sea potatoes :3
How do merfolk groups who have the genes of Sirenians in them, as well as merfolk cultural groups in general, view sirenians?
Usually see them as food
@@TalesofKaimere I hope that you will made a Mermaid/Merfolk of Kaimere video one day !
Interesting that most seacoss are relatives of the dugong, bit the more well know (to americans 😏) manatee
Do komodo dragon please or orang utan
I do have an orang utan species that will debut in the great apes video!