Fun fact: Horsetails contain silica compounds within their stems. If an actual horse were to eat them, they'd get extremely sick because, in a sense, it's like they ate a mouthful of glass. The extreme digestion of sauropods helped them cope with this trait.
They also seem to have eaten cycad leaves. Which, well, if you're not a dinosaur that evolved alongside cycads and somehow evolved to deal with such viciously toxic compounds, I'd not recommend it LOL.
@@rileyernst9086about this point, dinossaurs have a good advantage against the herbovire mammals, who are more familiar whit grass, leafs, fruits, etc...
@@justinianthegreat1444 Lot of gaps in the armor. As juveniles it offers pretty thorough protection. For adults, the osteoderms are much more spread out and not as fortifying (because they don't really need to be)
Im convinced that kaimere is a real place and keenan is secretly documenting what he sees on the planet This video further proves my theory with how well thought out and designed these animals are Looking suspiciously like there was a real living animal used as a reference
I will neither confirm nor deny these suspicions. Certainly haven't gotten authorization from the Assembly to run this as a test to see if Earth is ready to know.
He even have sound enregistrement from titanosaur. He's been exposed to public. We know the truth Keenan, give us back our Mammoths, homotherium, giant ground sloth and passenger pigeon now.
Your Titanosaurs are easily my favorite sauropods in paleo pop media. I love the open embrace of just how both majestic and nightmarish sauropods could potentially be. Nothing quite like the long-necked dinosaurs has existed before or since their reign and they deserve to be more than background details, gentle giants, or theropod fodder.
When i first discovered Kaimere, the uktan and the modotan were the two creatures that stood out the most to me. Now seeing this video and the new design, i can say without a doubt that the Modotan is my number one favorite animal in all of Kaimere!
@@Spinofaarus I picture it now, a titanasaur stomping on pig and frowning them around while being followed by thousands of helicopters and atvs collecting the body’s as they leave behind a trail as big as a high way.
When I saw the Dreadnoughtus segment in prehistoric planet, all I thought was "Hey, Keenan did it first!!"😂 ...Also, Edotan shall never cease to be perfection
That was so exciting to see! When I first saw the fighting titans in the trailer I knew I had to get my episode out soon since I got the impression they were also leaning into the idea of titans being combative
So a friend of mine pointed me in the direction of this video because I’m doing a worldbuilding project where I’m beginning to dip my toes into fleshing out the ecology of the steppe of a planet that’s inhabited by nomadic dinosaur people. I mentioned sauropod stuff and how their migrations would affect the landscape, among other things. I can see why. Holy shit this is phenomenal.
Out of all the installments discussing Kaimere, I’d have to say that this video towers over all others in its sound design- the audio representation of the songs of the titans is about the most immersive thing in your videos yet! The sheer majesty and creativity of it all is astonishing- how ever did you accomplish it? As always, thank you for such thrilling content- the sauropods of Kaimere were well due to receive the spotlight! Never stop with Kaimere, it’s by far the most unique and fascinating fantasy project I’ve ever known!
Thank you so much!!! Epidemic Sounds has such an excellent range of options. Helped a lot with editing. The titan songs are a range of bird sounds (geese, kookaburra, and a few others) slower down and I’m glad that’s gotten such positive reception!
you can tell that keenan hasn't just been recieving descriptions, specimens, or blurry photos anymore. he's clearly gotten to see a few keratoderm/kipoirotitan for himself. of course, he has improved in simple artistic skill as well, but getting a better look at his models does have a notable influence.
I imagine the titan gardens are all about maximising forest edge(prime titanosaur foraging area). So it's clusters and islands of conifers, ginkgoes, tree ferns, laurels, magnolias, cycads and bennittatles, with ferny mossy prarie between them(very acidic and maintaines so by the uric acid of the titan poo). The constant pruning from the titans makes the canopy on the forest edges rather dense, but the centre of the islands is dominated by colossal old growth trees making the forest floor rather open away from these edges. The trees and plants on the fern prarie between forested islands are usually mown low by the titans, or pushed flat. So plants that thrive in disturbed sites grow there. This gives the impression that you are walking through a planned garden, a lawn of mosses and ferns, almost purposefully planted up feature islands of different trees.
Thank you is the least I can say! I waited so long for this episode. I always liked Sauropods, and to know that one of these titans atteined such mass and size? I wasn't surprised.. Although, I really wonder about the prehistory of Kaimere tbh, and the unexplored East continent!
That was an episode that I was looking forward to a lot, because of how important titans are for the Kaimere ecology. The fact that it's almost half an hour makes it even better. Also gotta appreciate how many awesome illustrations you did for this one.
Fantastic. Sauropods seem just such a natural fit for a fantasy world, and I always love to hear the natural histories and ecology of Kaimere. Might I suggest that in addition to the other ways the titans(along with the other giant herbivores of Kaimere, although I feel the titans would epitomize this) shape their environment; their constant browsing of younger trees, would in the cases of the plants that survive such a savage pruning promote root growth. Deeper and more expansive root networks in the local vegetation would allow them to access deeper ground water and help break up the soil, leading to deeper infiltration of ground water, allowing the titan gardens a larger access to more water all year round, making the environment more drought hardy than environments without such(to steal a phrase from Duane's old blog) titanic 'plant predators'. The large amounts of carbon going back into the soil from their dung may also promote the retention of moisture in the upper soil, promoting the low vegetation and may help prevent fires in all but the worst of years. Cheers! Looking forwards to seeing and hearing more of Kaimere.
Haha it wasn’t the original sound but when I was playing with slowing down bird calls the kookaburra sounded so horrid at 30% speed I knew I had to work it in
I love them! The portraits are so well made smh! Nice explanation video, I love sauropods! I love your titanosaurs because they heavily remind me of Larinoth, so it feels like I’m looking at a more paleo accurate Larinoth
In fact, they are gentle giant, most of the time when not threatened, it's mostly when mating season arrive that the "terrifing beast" side of these creatures appears !
If you see this let me just say I love your work on kaimere. Your titanosaurs have been a great inspiration for my own sauropods which have a mixture of typical sauropod style and kaimeran keep on doing your great work 👍
It is a great shame that the gaint gardeners didn't make it. Their more docile nature, potential for great intelligence could have given them a unique path to prosperity, relying on their great size, complex traps, and personally designed terrain to protect their eggs and young. They could have also developed fishing strategies and supplement their diet with seafood. All of this leading them to be called wise earth dragons and have a close relationship with humans.
Absolutely! If any survived on the eastern continent (likely north of the equator which wasn’t hit as hard by the context of the dynastic extinction) then they might stage a return to the south of the Eastern continent. The more competitive Kipourotitan has a lot of advantages but there may be place for the more peaceful giants.
Amazing job! This might be your most intriguing episode yet! The designs of these behemoths is absolutely awesome and I really enjoyed the added vocalizations. I really felt immersed in the world of Kaimere.
These are some of my favourite sauropod depictions. Really unique, which is refreshing since they are often only shown as grey theropod punching bags. Also it is really nice to see how the technical quality of your videos increase with time. The sound design makes them even more enjoyable. 2:41 BTW sorry to be pedantic, but horsetails aren't considered gymnosperms, because they don't produce seeds.
Great episode! I wasn't so sold on Kaimere's titanosaurs before the episode, since I'm more of a fan of how more 'typical' sauropods look, but after a few minutes you got me on board with these guys. They're probably one of my favorites in Kaimere now!
So glad to hear it! Yeah they definitely buck a lot of norms, but it seemed reasonable to me that they would continue to evolve, and the addition of so many derived mammals struck me as a pretty major selective pressure for better defenses while young.
The Titanosaurs of Kaimere are one of the Four Tyrants of the Tyrant Dysnaty alsonside the Ceratopsid, the Tyrannosaurid and the Hadrosaurid, but they are the only member of them to survived and to maintain/kee and quickly recovering their place/ecological niches after the Tyrant Dynasty's Extinction. Even if between the crisis and the overall recovery of Kaimere's ecosystem they regress in size, with almsot/only the smallest of them who survived, but quickly re-reaching the sames originals sizes than their bigs counterparts ! They are two kinds of Titanosaurs : the "Giant Gardners" (mostly, see completely extinct, even if some relical species can possibly survived in some areas outisde the Known World), who look like generic looking in shape and size to most current sauropods depictions in our earth pop cultur, relatively calm and gentle (but can be of course dangerous if threaten like all big herbivores); and the "Armored Tillers", smaller, more aggressive and especially more covered in osteroderms protection against predators. It's this later groups who include all the current living Titanosaurs of Kaimere, including the Known World species who are members of this group and who can be called also by this vernacular name ! The Armored Tiller survived better than the Giant Gardners during the crisis and some time later take advantage of the disapearance of their bigger relatives to evolved, reach the sames sizes of these later and to fitt the exact sames niches than these laters. To know : aerate forests by knocking down trees to create clearings/gardens beneficial to the entire ecosystem ! Because of this last point, the remaining (originals) Giant Gardners who manage to survived the crisis were totally (r possibly almost like I mention upper) outcompeted in favor of the New Giant Gardner Titanosaurs : The Giants Armored Tillers ! With their size, this creature have no problem to impose themselve among the others species, as dinosaurs as mammals, in every aspects. They are endurants species who have great survivals skills ! Their ultimate and most effective survival method is very simple and very silly : just lay million of eggs (as possible) almost everywhere and just let them fend for themselves in their own ! (like Sea Turtles in comparison) So, okay, with a body who allow them to remain many long time without eating remaining on their own body reserves, their ability to move almost everywhere, using their boyancy to cross seas and new reach landsmass, and a size and long neck who allow them to reach almost every food vegetation in upper peaks (like the treestop) than others animals can usually reach, sure that help too... but their reproduction system still their main key to their overall success !
I love this series. Very intricate and well made. Although the more I hear about the tyrant dynasty the more I want to see what I was like in its prime. Will it get to that point in the far future?
I am so exceptionally glad that I got to witness part of the rise of Kaimere. Watching these videos has deepened my love for dinosaurs and speculative evolution in a way only a few artists have done previously.
In my own d&d worldbuilding, dinos are common, but sauropods are absent from the current timeline. It's stuff like this that makes me wish they weren't though!!!
This is great! I've known about the titanosaur gardens as long as I've known about Kaimere, but could not have guessed how fascinating their social lives were. Also, Keenan, the Dreadnoughtus might be my favorite of your reconstructions of IRL dinosaurs.
I'm curious on what Titan Gardens looks like, you mentioned how they help make forests and areas they live as biologically dense as possible but I'm having trouble picturing what that looks like. Do their gardens look like vast areas sparse of trees and with a ton of underbrush or is it something like more spaced out trees and the ground absolutely covered in underbrush plants? Great video and I can't get enough of the titans of Kaimere.
Impressive creatures. It's cool that the kaimeran titans stray away from the more gentle nature usually given to sauropods, admitelly I do like that essence of awe and wonder the gentle giant arquetype gives but I prefer when it is done with diplodocid and Jurassic groups. The titanosaurs look very intimidating and kaiju-like, yours even more so, a close encounter with one of these beast must be incredibly terrifying. It's cool to hear that huge and gentle titans existed back in the Tyrant Dynasty, that time period feels very fantasy Cretaceous in a way, which is cool since that makes the modern dinosaurs feel, well, more modern and less lost-worldly than other worlds who have them. Btw, I love the Modotan in particular. The Houze Prairy is becoming more and more my favourite biome of the Know World, it has a very nice mix of saurisquians and mammals.
Thank you! I definitely love the wonder element of the gentle giants but I figured a setting as competitive especially for smaller animals as the known world would select for more aggressive titans. More on the Eastern continent embody the gentle giant vibe. The modotan definitely fits that the most of the titans of the known world: they don’t really need to fight 99% of the time.
@@TalesofKaimere I hope so, if the Modotan wasn't al least relatively peacefull (to humans, which I assume no longer raid titan's nest) the peoples in the territories of the Cha'kati empire would have a titanic problem. On the other hand, a Modotan rampaging through a city sounds like a cool scene kind of like a fantasy version of a kaiju movie.
@@TalesofKaimere And I made MANNY fanarts about Kaimere's Pterosaurs ! As for illustrations use as for humoristic uses at thé ends of videos. I hope they will be use in it !
Pictures descriptions from Keenan's social accounts (only include the ones who have true texts for contexts). At 11:16, 14:07, 19:16 and 19:36 minutes : "A western forest Titan has crossed the sea to Pakardia. Even though he is still growing fast, he dwarfs the dominant jurazhent bull who challenges him. These crossings aren’t common with the terrestrial species, but when they do, the larger mainland bulls often dominate which has lead to a great deal of hybridization." At 13:08 and 23:03 minutes, “These violent delights have violent ends.” picture : "Although triumphant, a young bull jurazhent remains on the corpse of his trampled foe, his breathing labored. His opponents thumb spur is lodged in his side even in death. He will carry on but the injury will leave him weak for over a month." At 13:40, Prehistoric Planet Moment (inspiration) : "A young wawakoku arrives on an island in the inland sea. A seasoned veteran has claimed the herd of females now turning the island into a nursery. He has no intention to share. They meet on the beach, and the old bull quickly proves the value of size and experience. The young bull will not survive the encounter, and his body will fertilize the ground and support the next generation, all sired by his victorious opponent." At 14:55 minutes, : "A jurazhent matriarch attacks a young female trying to lay her clutch at the heart of the colony. While male titans have a more combative and dramatic reputation, females are often more violent in establishing prime real estate, as dominant females have a majority of survivors given their central location and longer guardianship. Nesting positions are highly competitive and such line-cutters in the ranks are not tolerated." At 17:08, 17:45, 19:49 and 23:19 minutes : "A common titan (yeah we’re just going with that now) yearling sees off a dire badger looking to make a meal of her hatchling siblings." At 21:21 minutes : "After adult wawakoku clear the island of trees, fertilize the ground, and lay eggs, the herd departs. A few yearlings stay behind to feed on what’s left and offer protection from small hunters. Once they hatch, juveniles feast on low foliage. They leave once the island is made barren: some alone, some in small groups, while others form herds with the yearlings. This diversity in habits is a key to this group of titanosaurs success and how they have colonized and dominated the known world." At 22:36 minutes : "After finding a suitable nesting site near a river but not so close as to be in danger when the floods come, a bull modotan calls out to potential mates. His song will carry for miles, drawing both mates and competition."
In all the years I’ve known about sauropods, I never knew they had extensive air sacs until Prehistoric Planet’s teaser aired. Glad to see these designs updated and incorporated here. Thanks to this channel and Prehistoric Planet’s new take on accurate prehistoric fauna, I now have a completely different picture in my mind of what these titanic creatures looked like in life. And it’s far more interesting than than it was before. I do have a couple questions about them. 1. Do any animals or humans on Kaimere hunt them? If so, what for? 2. Do any humans tame these giants and employ them as mounts or are they too feral for that?
Thanks! I’m super excited for Prehistoric Planet and to see the impact of their portrayals on future understanding of dinosaurs by people who before didn’t know much about them! 1. Young have a long list of enemies. Humans, particularly Pakardiant, consider their tail meat in particular to be a delicacy as long as it’s collected within the first couple years while it’s rich in natural flavors. After they near adulthood the quality of taste diminishes (happens to most large animals) and that combined with how dangerous they are means very few hunters go after titans larger than maybe 2-3 tons. There are no predators in the known world that target adult titans (on the Eastern continent that’s a different story…) 2. They have never been successfully tamed. Too violent and unintelligent is the general consensus, although they have been kept in captivity in a few cases
Plus cause sauropods cleared out older trees it also allowed new saplings to have a change to grow larger. It’s theorized that other sauropods like diplotocus also cleared forest to feed on the softer ferns and shrubs growing in the forest.
Addendum : I'm currently working on a book. There is one Predator that can and regularly kill adult Sauropods, massive as they are. Charcharodontosaurines of epic sizes, reaching up to twenty five tons in most adults, and even thirty at their largest bulls. I wonder if they are able to bring down these colossus?
I can't imagine how it would feel to be standing next to a modotan, it would be terrifying! Also, quick question, have you considered having an island/island chain where dwarf remnants of the tyrant dynasty still rule, like a mix between hateg and australia? Just thought it could be cool. Love you videos and cant wait for the next one!
This episode was highly influented by the few Trailer shots of Sauropods of the "Prehistoric Planet" (2022, Apple TV +, Attenborough) documentary serie, even if at the time of this video, this later is not yet release on screen. Especially the depictions of the Kaimere Titanosaurs fight took from the shots where we see two males on a beach with a huge amount a females around and looking them with attention (by the way, despite the documentary will be a serious educationnal stuff, this specific shot have truly fantastical/fantasical vibe elements, with only the fact of the disposition of all these females, sitting and watching the two males' fight. I don't know why, but for me, that have a unrealistic but spectacular scene to absolutely watch !).
As I say in the episode, this was more inspired by Nash’s titanosaurs than by Apple’s show. A lot of this canon was already in place. That said, I’m super excited that Prehistoric Planet also seems to be taking that route with their titans! Super excited for what they’ve been working on.
gonna gust I really like this episode about sauropods of kaimere, I really like the redesigns of these animals this make me what to save and perhaps or maybe soon continue my own spec evolution project, also I might get the apple account to watch prehistoric planet though it may be unlikely due to my parents saying that we need to pay for every month but the 7 day trail might get me to seeing with my own wonder and perhaps finish an animated flim I was willing to watch
I think that's awesome the Titanosaurs are in Kaimere but are portrayed as dangerous and not the usual gentle giants for sauropods since they remind me of elephants given their aggression and forming forests. But I like that they have air sacs and armor reminding me of ankylosaurs
Amazing Video. Loved it a lot. I love the asshole side of Titans you highlighted here. Always felt the soft, gentle giant side of Titanosaurs usually portrayed in media was not true.
I wonder if the presence of such enormous, dangerous creatures in the environment would be a selective pressure to discourage Musth in the elephants. Elephants get away with a lot since they're the biggest game in town.
Palaeoloxodon definitely has a less aggressive musth compared to Earth elephants for that very reason! Sometimes they still mess around, and it can help deter predators, but adult titans can pretty reliably curb them and there’s also giant sloths that will happily give ‘em the ol smack
@@TalesofKaimere Speaking of which, are there any other violent interactions of titanosaurs with other large herbivores such as sloths, chalicotheres, parksosaurs, hippos, rhinos, moose, etc.?
Perhaps someday but not likely. Lore is all fine. Might be easy enough to update some of the art but that’s still a fair amount of work I’d need a sponsor for.
I love how unique the Titanosaurs look with their head crests and elastic skin on their faces! It reminds me of King vultures and Cockfighting Roosters! A few questions: How exactly did forests returning cause temperature increases? How did you think of the ecosystem of the Tyrant dynasty (as in how specialized and intricate it was) What is The current Dynasty called on Kaimere? I’m thinking of making my own speculative evolution project, where the two dominant clades are Mammals and descendants of geckos ( and birds are still the dominant flying vertebrates) and I’m wondering if mammals could evolve trait that would allow them to achieve achieve sizes that rival that of sauropods and mega theropods, and if so, what selective pressure would favor these traits?
Titans warmed things up largely through flatulence and freeing trapped carbon by tearing down trees, but the fast growth of understory and new growth forests in their wake traps carbon. Basically they are net stabilizers keeping things kinda warm. My establishment of the tyrant dynasty was established from existing trends in dinosaurs towards the end of the Cretaceous becoming more specialized, less diverse, but more stable in its context. Currently there isn’t really an established dynasty given the constant harvests and instability but the Eastern continent is stable and probably best called the titan dynasty especially since titans are stable even in the dynamic known world. The biggest boon to theropods and sauropods reaching enormous sizes was air sacs in the chest and hollow bones, enabling 10+ ton bipedal active hunters and 100+ ton megaherbivores. Hadrosaurs and horned dinosaurs didn’t have these derived traits and maxed out in the same range as mammals (15-20 ton herbivores). For mammals to come close to those numbers I imagine they would need similar traits which is very unlikely to evolve unless it starts with really tiny animals (perhaps a clade of derived bats or rodents)
Thank you so much for the answers! The amount of detail in the ecosystems and natural history of kaimere almost feels real, it’s incredible! On another note, I think I’ve narrowed down my candidates for my giant spec evo Mammal descendants:Marmosets, Hyraxes, and Sengis. How they’ll develop air sacs has yet to be determined.
surprisingly if you remember Greek Myth Titans predate the Olympians such as the famous Titan Kronos, Greek Gods were often the inspiration for the language used for Prehistoric lifeforms. I wouldn't be surprised if you made a pantheon based on them in Kaimere!
Random Question : Since we know that there is Pachycephalosaurid on Kaimere, is it possible that there are Stygimoloch and Dracorex like who exist ? Because, it’s always possible that there were some Pachycephalosaurus’ populations, in Kaimere evolution history, who become sort of neothenic with some of these population remaining in their Stygimoloch and Dracorex stages and evolve to become full complete apart genus with times. That should be interesting, in addition to put like independant specie these animals that become Pachycephalosaurus juvveniles stages in recent years. No ?
Depends on how diverse they end up being but will probably have a range of size and forms! Some will probably be neotenic but I will unpack that more once we close out the known world
A lot of the bigger ones use infrasound (calls below our hearing range) but we can hear some of their frequencies. Basically imagine the frequency of bird calls but on a whole new scale of volume and diversity since each animal wants to stand out in the chorus
What’s their attitude towards humans? Like will they readily attack nearby humans or leave them alone unless they get too close/ are perceived as a threat? Btw I’m in love with the Modotan and wawakoku! The idea of an armoured, coastal/ semi aquatic sauropod gives off mad kaiju vibes!
Depends on the season: normally they leave people alone, but in the months of nesting and a few weeks after hatching, males in particular are extremely aggressive towards known nest raiders, and unfortunately we smell enough like monkeys that we draw their ire.
The Modotan is lerger than Hercules titan? Daaanm, i tough the Hercules are a little bit bigger. They need a loot of calcium to grow up this big AND make a full armour, they just do osteophagia or they active hunt some animals when they can? You created the unhuntable animal, nothing in Kaimere can take down this behemoth. Awesome vídeo.
Other than giant chalicotheres and that huge courser drake that you talked about in one of your posts, what other animals tried to fill the niches left by sauropods (take on the mantle of "stewards of the forest") before kipourotitan took over relegated them to the fringes?
None in the known world. Was just chalicotheres and a species of giant protoceratopsid. I guess Deinotherium might count but they came at that size rather than stepping up to the plate as it were. Likely will be many more on the Eastern continent before the titans took it back and are now pushed to the sidelines.
Also do Titanosaurs eat other fruit. Many species might have had fruit seeds in their stomachs when they came to Kaimere. I know of a creature who could work with Titanosaurs in order to spread the fruits they don't eat. The long armed chalicotheriinae which I seems to eat fruits and browse on trees. They can also stand upright and have a short neck. Of course they would keep their distance from the Titans. Since they eat different fruit they would avoid competing with Titanosaurs. These animals would be more like farmers compared to the Titanosaur gardeners. Also they would be smaller compared to ghlanos which is the last of the giant chalicotheres. Ghlanos looks to be based off the long necked and retractable clawed Schizotheriinae which could rear upright.
Yes indeed! While they are recorded to bite into and break a smaller titan's leg, it's worth noting that their chewing muscles have that strength, and adult titans could pretty reliably kill a bokodu. While the entelodont is busy positioning the front leg against their molars for that shearing bite, the claws of the titans back legs can do serious damage.
Nice one Keenan!!! Glad to see the titanosaurs showcased here. Out of curiosity, are there any giant titans left outside of the known world? Surely one ore two species are still hanging around. I'm curious to see what's next.
Thanks! There will likely be one or two of the old titans still around, probably north of the equator (which wasn't as impacted by the climate shifts as the southern hemisphere). Next up is the otters!
@@TalesofKaimere ok First The omnivorous marabou stork brachiosaurus descendent is smaller ( about the size of a elephant ) The bamboo eating one is the colour of a panda now And finally a new member Mopafofo These guys are descendants of camarasaurus that have become very fluffy ( in a shaggy fur kinda way ) And their nasal chambers have adapted into air sack for displays and they live in the tundra regions Their big as a humpback
Man, sauropods are completely and utterly insane from head to toe. I liked how immersive this one was even if people had to experience the Jurazhent calls. 1. Are any of the big oceanic predators stup- brave enough to go after bigger titans when they swim? 2. Are there any titans on the other continents that rival the Modotan? 3. What ungodly abomination on the Eastern continent hunts titans?
Heck yeah they're wild. 1. motomazor, kurajaku, and megalodon occasionally give it a go but it usually ends in kicks and horrid clawed wounds and tough to get purchase on them. 2. Eastern continent has modotan and probably one or two of rivaling or surpassing size. 3. the komu ka bawe (giant dromaeosaur) has heavily converged with carcharodontosaurs. They don't have use of sickle claws but they are light for their size, agile, and have 6-foot skulls and excel at sawing into any gaps in titan armor.
I am confused because sometimes you say the tyrant dynasty is the longest dynasty but other times you say the Permian dynasty was the longest dynasty. So which dynasty is the longest.
The First Dynasty is the longest dynasty, starting around 360 mya to 255 mya plus or minus a few, so 100 million years, while the Tyrant Dynasty had a tenure of around 50-55 million years, and the Permian Dynasty lasted roughly 60-70 million years (late Permian to Early Jurassic)
Random question : In the Highland of Arvel, what small preys animals there are outside the Boar or the Takin ? Because for now, we know only bigs herbivores like the highland mammoth, the (wild form) Auroch, the future prehistoric rhino and maybe a possible prehistoric bison you haven"t decide or finalize yet, for the many locals predators ! Like cold small open spaces preys that lived during the prehistoric eurasia at the same time with the ancestors of these animals there a bucn of antilope/gazelle that can fitt this niche ! Like : - the Procapra Asiatic Gazelle genus (P. gutturosa, P. picticaudata and P. przewalskii), - the Saiga tatarica (Saiga) - or the Pantholops hodgsonii (Tibetan antelope/Tchirou). You can keep in mind these candidates/suggestions for the "maybe list", it's always taken if you want !
@@TalesofKaimere Great ! In the next video, I will likely put another commentary of suggestions (like cold prairie birds). And you know, you are not obliged to draw every creature. You can simplely show us on screen their names (common and scientifics names) and take pictures of these animals from Google images or whatever (like you did for the Black Panthers pictures for the Big Cat video !). It's most the dinos, endemic prehistoric and homunculus being who deserve mostly drawn.
I must ask, did the Modotan evolve a change in their teeth to feed on Houze Grass? Grass of any kind never existed when dinosaurs ruled over Earth and only those with the teeth for the job could feed on it. I imagine that Ornithiscian herbivores could do it, but most Sauropods have peg-like or leaf-shaped teeth with a body plan suggesting mostly feeding on either ferns, horsetails or trees.
A recent paper actually showed traces of grass in titanosaur dung! Grass was rare in the Cretaceous but was abundant in certain places. Modotan don’t have any specializations for it but their pseudo beak is up to the task of cropping it and past like 5 tons their hind guts are long enough that fermentation takes care of the cellulose that their stomachs are too acidic to handle. They can’t subsist only on grass, but it can be a solid supplement especially while migrating between more nutritious foods
The names in this video make me wonder, how do you come up with the names for the animals? I get guess like cockatrice, but Wawakokwu is a pretty unique name I imagine is unique to Kaimere. Do you just through some letters together in an appropriate word or do you have an actual conlang under your belt too?
Great question! I have the bases of several conlangs. I either use them to make the names or go with names that sound similar which also turns around and helps expand my vocabulary
Fun fact: Horsetails contain silica compounds within their stems. If an actual horse were to eat them, they'd get extremely sick because, in a sense, it's like they ate a mouthful of glass. The extreme digestion of sauropods helped them cope with this trait.
I also hate women
anti cannibalism strategy lol
They also seem to have eaten cycad leaves. Which, well, if you're not a dinosaur that evolved alongside cycads and somehow evolved to deal with such viciously toxic compounds, I'd not recommend it LOL.
Certainly not! LOL But a very good point.
@@rileyernst9086about this point, dinossaurs have a good advantage against the herbovire mammals, who are more familiar whit grass, leafs, fruits, etc...
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"usually getting trampled" this implies one elephant managed to kill a titan by sheer must rage
Hey its definitely happened. Full on gore the titan (although their tusks are then stuck and they starve to death but when in musth...)
@@TalesofKaimerehow can it gore the armored titan?
@@justinianthegreat1444 Lot of gaps in the armor. As juveniles it offers pretty thorough protection. For adults, the osteoderms are much more spread out and not as fortifying (because they don't really need to be)
The indomitable Elephant spirit
Kamikaze proboscidean especial move 😂😂😂
Im convinced that kaimere is a real place and keenan is secretly documenting what he sees on the planet
This video further proves my theory with how well thought out and designed these animals are
Looking suspiciously like there was a real living animal used as a reference
I will neither confirm nor deny these suspicions.
Certainly haven't gotten authorization from the Assembly to run this as a test to see if Earth is ready to know.
'yes' and the Patterns are 'Real' too and those Abstract Waves already Simulated that [Grape]'s world.
'the end'. as they say....
He even have sound enregistrement from titanosaur.
He's been exposed to public.
We know the truth
Keenan, give us back our Mammoths, homotherium, giant ground sloth and passenger pigeon now.
@@deinsilverdrac8695
And da dinosaurs
@@TalesofKaimere if youre gone one day that means the assembly finally got you
Your Titanosaurs are easily my favorite sauropods in paleo pop media. I love the open embrace of just how both majestic and nightmarish sauropods could potentially be. Nothing quite like the long-necked dinosaurs has existed before or since their reign and they deserve to be more than background details, gentle giants, or theropod fodder.
Thank you! Had a ton of fun putting them together and I’m so thankful that it got a sponsorship and I had time to really do them justice!
When i first discovered Kaimere, the uktan and the modotan were the two creatures that stood out the most to me. Now seeing this video and the new design, i can say without a doubt that the Modotan is my number one favorite animal in all of Kaimere!
Thank you! Really wanted to make them a living fortress. Just absolute monsters.
@@TalesofKaimerea lot of sauropods in pop culture are portrayed as gentle giants when in reality they might be belligerent and destructive creatures.
Boar: *exists*
Titanosaur: *visible anger*
They have a 0 pig tolerance policy.
Angry Birds on a whole new scale.
@@Spinofaarus I picture it now, a titanasaur stomping on pig and frowning them around while being followed by thousands of helicopters and atvs collecting the body’s as they leave behind a trail as big as a high way.
@@papakarrbear3767I mean how else are we to get our pork pancakes.
The cornerstone of any nutritious breakfast.
@@rileyernst9086 its the only way
When I saw the Dreadnoughtus segment in prehistoric planet, all I thought was "Hey, Keenan did it first!!"😂
...Also, Edotan shall never cease to be perfection
That was so exciting to see! When I first saw the fighting titans in the trailer I knew I had to get my episode out soon since I got the impression they were also leaning into the idea of titans being combative
So a friend of mine pointed me in the direction of this video because I’m doing a worldbuilding project where I’m beginning to dip my toes into fleshing out the ecology of the steppe of a planet that’s inhabited by nomadic dinosaur people. I mentioned sauropod stuff and how their migrations would affect the landscape, among other things.
I can see why. Holy shit this is phenomenal.
Tell your friend thanks, and I’m glad you enjoyed!
Out of all the installments discussing Kaimere, I’d have to say that this video towers over all others in its sound design- the audio representation of the songs of the titans is about the most immersive thing in your videos yet! The sheer majesty and creativity of it all is astonishing- how ever did you accomplish it?
As always, thank you for such thrilling content- the sauropods of Kaimere were well due to receive the spotlight! Never stop with Kaimere, it’s by far the most unique and fascinating fantasy project I’ve ever known!
Thank you so much!!! Epidemic Sounds has such an excellent range of options. Helped a lot with editing. The titan songs are a range of bird sounds (geese, kookaburra, and a few others) slower down and I’m glad that’s gotten such positive reception!
you can tell that keenan hasn't just been recieving descriptions, specimens, or blurry photos anymore. he's clearly gotten to see a few keratoderm/kipoirotitan for himself.
of course, he has improved in simple artistic skill as well, but getting a better look at his models does have a notable influence.
haha absolutely. Just got back from some fieldwork which helped a lot!
I imagine the titan gardens are all about maximising forest edge(prime titanosaur foraging area). So it's clusters and islands of conifers, ginkgoes, tree ferns, laurels, magnolias, cycads and bennittatles, with ferny mossy prarie between them(very acidic and maintaines so by the uric acid of the titan poo). The constant pruning from the titans makes the canopy on the forest edges rather dense, but the centre of the islands is dominated by colossal old growth trees making the forest floor rather open away from these edges.
The trees and plants on the fern prarie between forested islands are usually mown low by the titans, or pushed flat. So plants that thrive in disturbed sites grow there.
This gives the impression that you are walking through a planned garden, a lawn of mosses and ferns, almost purposefully planted up feature islands of different trees.
Thank you is the least I can say! I waited so long for this episode. I always liked Sauropods, and to know that one of these titans atteined such mass and size? I wasn't surprised.. Although, I really wonder about the prehistory of Kaimere tbh, and the unexplored East continent!
Titanosaur1: are you approaching me even when I won our rap battle
Titanosaur2: I can't kill you if I'm not close to you
As much as I love and adore elephants, i chuckled at the description of their encounters with kaimerian titanosaurs. 😂👍
Sauropods in JWE 1 & 2: “oh no Smol PrEdAtOrS!!!”
Kaimerain Tillers: T I T A N I C S P I K E Y A S S H @ L E S ! ! ! !
That was an episode that I was looking forward to a lot, because of how important titans are for the Kaimere ecology. The fact that it's almost half an hour makes it even better. Also gotta appreciate how many awesome illustrations you did for this one.
Thanks so much! Been wanting to do it so long but I’m really glad I had time to make all the art!
I didn’t think about the titanosaurus on Kaimere much but now they seem like one of the coolest groups on the planet.
Heck yeah! I’m so happy with how they came together
Fantastic. Sauropods seem just such a natural fit for a fantasy world, and I always love to hear the natural histories and ecology of Kaimere.
Might I suggest that in addition to the other ways the titans(along with the other giant herbivores of Kaimere, although I feel the titans would epitomize this) shape their environment; their constant browsing of younger trees, would in the cases of the plants that survive such a savage pruning promote root growth. Deeper and more expansive root networks in the local vegetation would allow them to access deeper ground water and help break up the soil, leading to deeper infiltration of ground water, allowing the titan gardens a larger access to more water all year round, making the environment more drought hardy than environments without such(to steal a phrase from Duane's old blog) titanic 'plant predators'.
The large amounts of carbon going back into the soil from their dung may also promote the retention of moisture in the upper soil, promoting the low vegetation and may help prevent fires in all but the worst of years.
Cheers! Looking forwards to seeing and hearing more of Kaimere.
OH YES, HERE IT IS GUYS! I've waited for this one since this channel started!
Finally! I can't get enough of these titans.
Love how you played with sound in this one. Gonna be thinking about cackling Jurazhent for a minute. 🥶
Haha it wasn’t the original sound but when I was playing with slowing down bird calls the kookaburra sounded so horrid at 30% speed I knew I had to work it in
@@TalesofKaimere Thought it sounded vaguely familiar. Very good choice!
@@brontospinusregalia6921 Thanks!
I love them! The portraits are so well made smh! Nice explanation video, I love sauropods!
I love your titanosaurs because they heavily remind me of Larinoth, so it feels like I’m looking at a more paleo accurate Larinoth
Thank you!!
Technically, it *is* a “fight on sight” if a confrontation is the main reason Bull titanosaurs get in close proximity
Fair. Just wanted to make it clear there's a lot of preamble before they meet. Like they've already decided it's on hours earlier.
In fact, they are gentle giant, most of the time when not threatened, it's mostly when mating season arrive that the "terrifing beast" side of these creatures appears !
Ah Kaimeran titanosaurs, a hulking pile of violence. Love it as always Keenan
This is the way
let's go! I've been waiting for an in depth look into the gardeners themselves!
Bro knocked down one tree and proceeded to be the biggest land animal in the world lol I love it
Bae wake up new Kaimere lore dropped!
If you see this let me just say I love your work on kaimere. Your titanosaurs have been a great inspiration for my own sauropods which have a mixture of typical sauropod style and kaimeran keep on doing your great work 👍
It is a great shame that the gaint gardeners didn't make it. Their more docile nature, potential for great intelligence could have given them a unique path to prosperity, relying on their great size, complex traps, and personally designed terrain to protect their eggs and young. They could have also developed fishing strategies and supplement their diet with seafood. All of this leading them to be called wise earth dragons and have a close relationship with humans.
Absolutely! If any survived on the eastern continent (likely north of the equator which wasn’t hit as hard by the context of the dynastic extinction) then they might stage a return to the south of the Eastern continent. The more competitive Kipourotitan has a lot of advantages but there may be place for the more peaceful giants.
Spec sophont sauropods let's go!
Amazing job! This might be your most intriguing episode yet! The designs of these behemoths is absolutely awesome and I really enjoyed the added vocalizations. I really felt immersed in the world of Kaimere.
Thank you!! I’m really happy with how it came out
These are some of my favourite sauropod depictions. Really unique, which is refreshing since they are often only shown as grey theropod punching bags. Also it is really nice to see how the technical quality of your videos increase with time. The sound design makes them even more enjoyable.
2:41 BTW sorry to be pedantic, but horsetails aren't considered gymnosperms, because they don't produce seeds.
Thank you!
Oh dang that’s what I get for fast studying lol.
Great episode! I wasn't so sold on Kaimere's titanosaurs before the episode, since I'm more of a fan of how more 'typical' sauropods look, but after a few minutes you got me on board with these guys. They're probably one of my favorites in Kaimere now!
So glad to hear it! Yeah they definitely buck a lot of norms, but it seemed reasonable to me that they would continue to evolve, and the addition of so many derived mammals struck me as a pretty major selective pressure for better defenses while young.
The Titanosaurs of Kaimere are one of the Four Tyrants of the Tyrant Dysnaty alsonside the Ceratopsid, the Tyrannosaurid and the Hadrosaurid, but they are the only member of them to survived and to maintain/kee and quickly recovering their place/ecological niches after the Tyrant Dynasty's Extinction. Even if between the crisis and the overall recovery of Kaimere's ecosystem they regress in size, with almsot/only the smallest of them who survived, but quickly re-reaching the sames originals sizes than their bigs counterparts !
They are two kinds of Titanosaurs : the "Giant Gardners" (mostly, see completely extinct, even if some relical species can possibly survived in some areas outisde the Known World), who look like generic looking in shape and size to most current sauropods depictions in our earth pop cultur, relatively calm and gentle (but can be of course dangerous if threaten like all big herbivores); and the "Armored Tillers", smaller, more aggressive and especially more covered in osteroderms protection against predators. It's this later groups who include all the current living Titanosaurs of Kaimere, including the Known World species who are members of this group and who can be called also by this vernacular name !
The Armored Tiller survived better than the Giant Gardners during the crisis and some time later take advantage of the disapearance of their bigger relatives to evolved, reach the sames sizes of these later and to fitt the exact sames niches than these laters. To know : aerate forests by knocking down trees to create clearings/gardens beneficial to the entire ecosystem !
Because of this last point, the remaining (originals) Giant Gardners who manage to survived the crisis were totally (r possibly almost like I mention upper) outcompeted in favor of the New Giant Gardner Titanosaurs : The Giants Armored Tillers !
With their size, this creature have no problem to impose themselve among the others species, as dinosaurs as mammals, in every aspects. They are endurants species who have great survivals skills !
Their ultimate and most effective survival method is very simple and very silly : just lay million of eggs (as possible) almost everywhere and just let them fend for themselves in their own ! (like Sea Turtles in comparison)
So, okay, with a body who allow them to remain many long time without eating remaining on their own body reserves, their ability to move almost everywhere, using their boyancy to cross seas and new reach landsmass, and a size and long neck who allow them to reach almost every food vegetation in upper peaks (like the treestop) than others animals can usually reach, sure that help too... but their reproduction system still their main key to their overall success !
I love this series. Very intricate and well made. Although the more I hear about the tyrant dynasty the more I want to see what I was like in its prime. Will it get to that point in the far future?
Yup! I definitely plan on elaborating on it further given the continued interest!
@@TalesofKaimere Great to hear! Hope to see it, and whatever less you have planned.
The music at the end is just .... awesomely Triumphal !
Thanks!!
Best video yet. I love the sounds.
Thanks man!
I am so exceptionally glad that I got to witness part of the rise of Kaimere. Watching these videos has deepened my love for dinosaurs and speculative evolution in a way only a few artists have done previously.
Thank you!!! It's been an exciting journey so far!
I’d like to think this is a kaimeren saying upon seeing those inflated males:
“A bunch of cckheads, I tell you”
Oh they 100% draw the comparison I just couldn’t say it and not risk getting demonetized lol
Lets hope there are no mongoose in Kaimere or else that mimicry would be as effective as hiding your donut by making it look like black licorice.
all this info about titans is super cool I love how much detail you went into!
Thank you!!
In my own d&d worldbuilding, dinos are common, but sauropods are absent from the current timeline. It's stuff like this that makes me wish they weren't though!!!
I love binging this series
Yes, i've been waiting for this!
This is great! I've known about the titanosaur gardens as long as I've known about Kaimere, but could not have guessed how fascinating their social lives were. Also, Keenan, the Dreadnoughtus might be my favorite of your reconstructions of IRL dinosaurs.
Keep up the good work! Rooting for the channel to blow up
Much appreciated! Growth has been steady and these sponsorships are helping me spend more time on it!
I'm curious on what Titan Gardens looks like, you mentioned how they help make forests and areas they live as biologically dense as possible but I'm having trouble picturing what that looks like. Do their gardens look like vast areas sparse of trees and with a ton of underbrush or is it something like more spaced out trees and the ground absolutely covered in underbrush plants? Great video and I can't get enough of the titans of Kaimere.
Impressive creatures. It's cool that the kaimeran titans stray away from the more gentle nature usually given to sauropods, admitelly I do like that essence of awe and wonder the gentle giant arquetype gives but I prefer when it is done with diplodocid and Jurassic groups. The titanosaurs look very intimidating and kaiju-like, yours even more so, a close encounter with one of these beast must be incredibly terrifying. It's cool to hear that huge and gentle titans existed back in the Tyrant Dynasty, that time period feels very fantasy Cretaceous in a way, which is cool since that makes the modern dinosaurs feel, well, more modern and less lost-worldly than other worlds who have them.
Btw, I love the Modotan in particular. The Houze Prairy is becoming more and more my favourite biome of the Know World, it has a very nice mix of saurisquians and mammals.
Thank you! I definitely love the wonder element of the gentle giants but I figured a setting as competitive especially for smaller animals as the known world would select for more aggressive titans. More on the Eastern continent embody the gentle giant vibe. The modotan definitely fits that the most of the titans of the known world: they don’t really need to fight 99% of the time.
@@TalesofKaimere I hope so, if the Modotan wasn't al least relatively peacefull (to humans, which I assume no longer raid titan's nest) the peoples in the territories of the Cha'kati empire would have a titanic problem. On the other hand, a Modotan rampaging through a city sounds like a cool scene kind of like a fantasy version of a kaiju movie.
YEEEES! Again I have to go to school but I’ve been really excited for this one! Thank you Connor!
Firstly, love the video and the music at the end.
Secondly, I'm now very curious about the pterosaurs of Kaimere.
Thank you!! Pterosaurs are definitely on the roster!
@@TalesofKaimere And I made MANNY fanarts about Kaimere's Pterosaurs ! As for illustrations use as for humoristic uses at thé ends of videos.
I hope they will be use in it !
Pictures descriptions from Keenan's social accounts (only include the ones who have true texts for contexts).
At 11:16, 14:07, 19:16 and 19:36 minutes : "A western forest Titan has crossed the sea to Pakardia. Even though he is still growing fast, he dwarfs the dominant jurazhent bull who challenges him. These crossings aren’t common with the terrestrial species, but when they do, the larger mainland bulls often dominate which has lead to a great deal of hybridization."
At 13:08 and 23:03 minutes, “These violent delights have violent ends.” picture : "Although triumphant, a young bull jurazhent remains on the corpse of his trampled foe, his breathing labored. His opponents thumb spur is lodged in his side even in death. He will carry on but the injury will leave him weak for over a month."
At 13:40, Prehistoric Planet Moment (inspiration) : "A young wawakoku arrives on an island in the inland sea. A seasoned veteran has claimed the herd of females now turning the island into a nursery. He has no intention to share. They meet on the beach, and the old bull quickly proves the value of size and experience. The young bull will not survive the encounter, and his body will fertilize the ground and support the next generation, all sired by his victorious opponent."
At 14:55 minutes, : "A jurazhent matriarch attacks a young female trying to lay her clutch at the heart of the colony. While male titans have a more combative and dramatic reputation, females are often more violent in establishing prime real estate, as dominant females have a majority of survivors given their central location and longer guardianship. Nesting positions are highly competitive and such line-cutters in the ranks are not tolerated."
At 17:08, 17:45, 19:49 and 23:19 minutes : "A common titan (yeah we’re just going with that now) yearling sees off a dire badger looking to make a meal of her hatchling siblings."
At 21:21 minutes : "After adult wawakoku clear the island of trees, fertilize the ground, and lay eggs, the herd departs. A few yearlings stay behind to feed on what’s left and offer protection from small hunters. Once they hatch, juveniles feast on low foliage. They leave once the island is made barren: some alone, some in small groups, while others form herds with the yearlings. This diversity in habits is a key to this group of titanosaurs success and how they have colonized and dominated the known world."
At 22:36 minutes : "After finding a suitable nesting site near a river but not so close as to be in danger when the floods come, a bull modotan calls out to potential mates. His song will carry for miles, drawing both mates and competition."
In all the years I’ve known about sauropods, I never knew they had extensive air sacs until Prehistoric Planet’s teaser aired. Glad to see these designs updated and incorporated here. Thanks to this channel and Prehistoric Planet’s new take on accurate prehistoric fauna, I now have a completely different picture in my mind of what these titanic creatures looked like in life. And it’s far more interesting than than it was before.
I do have a couple questions about them.
1. Do any animals or humans on Kaimere hunt them? If so, what for?
2. Do any humans tame these giants and employ them as mounts or are they too feral for that?
Thanks! I’m super excited for Prehistoric Planet and to see the impact of their portrayals on future understanding of dinosaurs by people who before didn’t know much about them!
1. Young have a long list of enemies. Humans, particularly Pakardiant, consider their tail meat in particular to be a delicacy as long as it’s collected within the first couple years while it’s rich in natural flavors. After they near adulthood the quality of taste diminishes (happens to most large animals) and that combined with how dangerous they are means very few hunters go after titans larger than maybe 2-3 tons. There are no predators in the known world that target adult titans (on the Eastern continent that’s a different story…)
2. They have never been successfully tamed. Too violent and unintelligent is the general consensus, although they have been kept in captivity in a few cases
Titan call time stamps;
Giant Gardener: 4:35
Common Titan: 10:15
Edotan: 14:36
Jurazhent: 19:22
Modotan: 22:36
cool
The audio examples of each of the titans’ calls was a really excellent touch
Thank you! Was fun to put together
Yes, finally a video our favorite Kaimere sauropods🦕🤩
Plus cause sauropods cleared out older trees it also allowed new saplings to have a change to grow larger. It’s theorized that other sauropods like diplotocus also cleared forest to feed on the softer ferns and shrubs growing in the forest.
Addendum : I'm currently working on a book.
There is one Predator that can and regularly kill adult Sauropods, massive as they are.
Charcharodontosaurines of epic sizes, reaching up to twenty five tons in most adults, and even thirty at their largest bulls.
I wonder if they are able to bring down these colossus?
I expect all but the largest bulls would be a reliable kill for your carcharodontosaurs
Trees : *exist*
Kaimere Titans : "And I took that shit personally."
What is a forest if not thousands of things in my way?
Simply incredible!
Thank you!!
I can't imagine how it would feel to be standing next to a modotan, it would be terrifying! Also, quick question, have you considered having an island/island chain where dwarf remnants of the tyrant dynasty still rule, like a mix between hateg and australia? Just thought it could be cool. Love you videos and cant wait for the next one!
Islands are absolutely perfect for little preservation parks. Don’t have any yet though but the concept has been on the back burner for a while.
nice! I cant wait to see wait to see what you've come up with
@@markhewett9307 Spoiler: Permian Island
This episode was highly influented by the few Trailer shots of Sauropods of the "Prehistoric Planet" (2022, Apple TV +, Attenborough) documentary serie, even if at the time of this video, this later is not yet release on screen.
Especially the depictions of the Kaimere Titanosaurs fight took from the shots where we see two males on a beach with a huge amount a females around and looking them with attention (by the way, despite the documentary will be a serious educationnal stuff, this specific shot have truly fantastical/fantasical vibe elements, with only the fact of the disposition of all these females, sitting and watching the two males' fight. I don't know why, but for me, that have a unrealistic but spectacular scene to absolutely watch !).
As I say in the episode, this was more inspired by Nash’s titanosaurs than by Apple’s show. A lot of this canon was already in place. That said, I’m super excited that Prehistoric Planet also seems to be taking that route with their titans! Super excited for what they’ve been working on.
gonna gust I really like this episode about sauropods of kaimere, I really like the redesigns of these animals this make me what to save and perhaps or maybe soon continue my own spec evolution project, also I might get the apple account to watch prehistoric planet though it may be unlikely due to my parents saying that we need to pay for every month but the 7 day trail might get me to seeing with my own wonder and perhaps finish an animated flim I was willing to watch
Thank you! Had so much fun designing them. If you can do the free trial that’s at least going to let them know that there’s a ton of interest!
You have no idea how long I’ve been waiting for this episode, I was checking every single day ever since this was announced
Heck yeah! Sauropods are rad
Keenan Taylor's Tales of Kaimere you know it, and I especially love yours, you’re one of my heroes, it’s a pleasure to have you reply to my comment
@@snoopysawyer3093 My pleasure!
I think that's awesome the Titanosaurs are in Kaimere but are portrayed as dangerous and not the usual gentle giants for sauropods since they remind me of elephants given their aggression and forming forests. But I like that they have air sacs and armor reminding me of ankylosaurs
Amazing Video. Loved it a lot.
I love the asshole side of Titans you highlighted here. Always felt the soft, gentle giant side of Titanosaurs usually portrayed in media was not true.
Thank you!!! Was fun to show their tougher potential
I wonder if the presence of such enormous, dangerous creatures in the environment would be a selective pressure to discourage Musth in the elephants. Elephants get away with a lot since they're the biggest game in town.
Palaeoloxodon definitely has a less aggressive musth compared to Earth elephants for that very reason! Sometimes they still mess around, and it can help deter predators, but adult titans can pretty reliably curb them and there’s also giant sloths that will happily give ‘em the ol smack
@@TalesofKaimere Speaking of which, are there any other violent interactions of titanosaurs with other large herbivores such as sloths, chalicotheres, parksosaurs, hippos, rhinos, moose, etc.?
Do you plan on making an updated version of this video? It was just something I thought of when the zentaur documentary finished.
Perhaps someday but not likely. Lore is all fine. Might be easy enough to update some of the art but that’s still a fair amount of work I’d need a sponsor for.
I love how unique the Titanosaurs look with their head crests and elastic skin on their faces! It reminds me of King vultures and Cockfighting Roosters!
A few questions:
How exactly did forests returning cause temperature increases?
How did you think of the ecosystem of the Tyrant dynasty (as in how specialized and intricate it was)
What is The current Dynasty called on Kaimere?
I’m thinking of making my own speculative evolution project, where the two dominant clades are Mammals and descendants of geckos ( and birds are still the dominant flying vertebrates) and I’m wondering if mammals could evolve trait that would allow them to achieve achieve sizes that rival that of sauropods and mega theropods, and if so, what selective pressure would favor these traits?
Titans warmed things up largely through flatulence and freeing trapped carbon by tearing down trees, but the fast growth of understory and new growth forests in their wake traps carbon. Basically they are net stabilizers keeping things kinda warm.
My establishment of the tyrant dynasty was established from existing trends in dinosaurs towards the end of the Cretaceous becoming more specialized, less diverse, but more stable in its context.
Currently there isn’t really an established dynasty given the constant harvests and instability but the Eastern continent is stable and probably best called the titan dynasty especially since titans are stable even in the dynamic known world.
The biggest boon to theropods and sauropods reaching enormous sizes was air sacs in the chest and hollow bones, enabling 10+ ton bipedal active hunters and 100+ ton megaherbivores. Hadrosaurs and horned dinosaurs didn’t have these derived traits and maxed out in the same range as mammals (15-20 ton herbivores). For mammals to come close to those numbers I imagine they would need similar traits which is very unlikely to evolve unless it starts with really tiny animals (perhaps a clade of derived bats or rodents)
Thank you so much for the answers! The amount of detail in the ecosystems and natural history of kaimere almost feels real, it’s incredible!
On another note, I think I’ve narrowed down my candidates for my giant spec evo Mammal descendants:Marmosets, Hyraxes, and Sengis. How they’ll develop air sacs has yet to be determined.
such great and colorful depictions of titanosaurs
Thank you!
Just saw the Modotan redesign on twitter, 5 Star Cheff levels of COOKING 😂
4:46
Holy mother of god, *WHAT?*
Got them Maraapunisaurus stats
How much sound editing did it take for you to get enough titan bellows and calls to put together the opening and closing music for this video?
surprisingly if you remember Greek Myth Titans predate the Olympians such as the famous Titan Kronos, Greek Gods were often the inspiration for the language used for Prehistoric lifeforms. I wouldn't be surprised if you made a pantheon based on them in Kaimere!
Random Question : Since we know that there is Pachycephalosaurid on Kaimere, is it possible that there are Stygimoloch and Dracorex like who exist ?
Because, it’s always possible that there were some Pachycephalosaurus’ populations, in Kaimere evolution history, who become sort of neothenic with some of these population remaining in their Stygimoloch and Dracorex stages and evolve to become full complete apart genus with times.
That should be interesting, in addition to put like independant specie these animals that become Pachycephalosaurus juvveniles stages in recent years. No ?
Depends on how diverse they end up being but will probably have a range of size and forms! Some will probably be neotenic but I will unpack that more once we close out the known world
Love the sounds of this animals, makes me wonder what the ambience of Kaimere is like
A lot of the bigger ones use infrasound (calls below our hearing range) but we can hear some of their frequencies. Basically imagine the frequency of bird calls but on a whole new scale of volume and diversity since each animal wants to stand out in the chorus
What’s their attitude towards humans? Like will they readily attack nearby humans or leave them alone unless they get too close/ are perceived as a threat? Btw I’m in love with the Modotan and wawakoku! The idea of an armoured, coastal/ semi aquatic sauropod gives off mad kaiju vibes!
Depends on the season: normally they leave people alone, but in the months of nesting and a few weeks after hatching, males in particular are extremely aggressive towards known nest raiders, and unfortunately we smell enough like monkeys that we draw their ire.
And thanks! They really seem like perfect island hoppers and I also dig their kaiju vibes.
So pretty much even a musk elephant cannot stand a chance against these sauropods
Well they can certainly tackle titans their size or smaller, but fighting an adult titan is a no-go
I really like the color of the sauropods especially the wawakoku
Bless air sacs
Thank you! Air sacs are just fun
Keenan Taylor's Tales of Kaimere they are *looks over at a sage grouse
The Modotan is lerger than Hercules titan? Daaanm, i tough the Hercules are a little bit bigger.
They need a loot of calcium to grow up this big AND make a full armour, they just do osteophagia or they active hunt some animals when they can? You created the unhuntable animal, nothing in Kaimere can take down this behemoth.
Awesome vídeo.
Other than giant chalicotheres and that huge courser drake that you talked about in one of your posts, what other animals tried to fill the niches left by sauropods (take on the mantle of "stewards of the forest") before kipourotitan took over relegated them to the fringes?
None in the known world. Was just chalicotheres and a species of giant protoceratopsid. I guess Deinotherium might count but they came at that size rather than stepping up to the plate as it were. Likely will be many more on the Eastern continent before the titans took it back and are now pushed to the sidelines.
Also do Titanosaurs eat other fruit. Many species might have had fruit seeds in their stomachs when they came to Kaimere. I know of a creature who could work with Titanosaurs in order to spread the fruits they don't eat. The long armed chalicotheriinae which I seems to eat fruits and browse on trees. They can also stand upright and have a short neck. Of course they would keep their distance from the Titans. Since they eat different fruit they would avoid competing with Titanosaurs. These animals would be more like farmers compared to the Titanosaur gardeners. Also they would be smaller compared to ghlanos which is the last of the giant chalicotheres. Ghlanos looks to be based off the long necked and retractable clawed Schizotheriinae which could rear upright.
I came back here after the Bokodu episode, and they can bite through those spurs on a titans legs!
Yes indeed! While they are recorded to bite into and break a smaller titan's leg, it's worth noting that their chewing muscles have that strength, and adult titans could pretty reliably kill a bokodu. While the entelodont is busy positioning the front leg against their molars for that shearing bite, the claws of the titans back legs can do serious damage.
Nice one Keenan!!! Glad to see the titanosaurs showcased here. Out of curiosity, are there any giant titans left outside of the known world? Surely one ore two species are still hanging around. I'm curious to see what's next.
Thanks! There will likely be one or two of the old titans still around, probably north of the equator (which wasn't as impacted by the climate shifts as the southern hemisphere). Next up is the otters!
Awesome
Would you like to hear updates to the sauropods of the biodome?
Sure hit me up!
Oh I would love too
@@TalesofKaimere ok
First
The omnivorous marabou stork brachiosaurus descendent is smaller ( about the size of a elephant )
The bamboo eating one is the colour of a panda now
And finally a new member
Mopafofo
These guys are descendants of camarasaurus that have become very fluffy ( in a shaggy fur kinda way )
And their nasal chambers have adapted into air sack for displays and they live in the tundra regions
Their big as a humpback
cool video i like see other sauropods like Brachiosauridae Mamenchisauridae Rebbachisauridae Dicraeosaurids Diplodocidae
Saltasauridae
There is nothing that can hurt armor sauropod nothing.
Titanosaur- It was long trip…(spots a tree on there favorite spot)…Pow! (Topples down three)…I am getting too old and giant for this.
0:50 I have a feeling number three is _not_ an Amargasaurus
Just wait for the new paper coming ou-
Just kidding it's a typo. It's an Alamosaurus.
@@TalesofKaimere Yeah, I guessed it was something like that. Altho I expected Argent tbh
damn there is so many animals to the point I got lost in counting
There’s certainly a lot!
Man, sauropods are completely and utterly insane from head to toe. I liked how immersive this one was even if people had to experience the Jurazhent calls.
1. Are any of the big oceanic predators stup- brave enough to go after bigger titans when they swim?
2. Are there any titans on the other continents that rival the Modotan?
3. What ungodly abomination on the Eastern continent hunts titans?
Heck yeah they're wild.
1. motomazor, kurajaku, and megalodon occasionally give it a go but it usually ends in kicks and horrid clawed wounds and tough to get purchase on them.
2. Eastern continent has modotan and probably one or two of rivaling or surpassing size.
3. the komu ka bawe (giant dromaeosaur) has heavily converged with carcharodontosaurs. They don't have use of sickle claws but they are light for their size, agile, and have 6-foot skulls and excel at sawing into any gaps in titan armor.
@@TalesofKaimere Any predatory cetaceans that go after swimming titans?
@@ryanchen1819 The sohiajoon (Acrophyseter descendant) probably tries out of curiosity but is smart enough to not risk it if they notice the claws.
What is the two black mysterious animals in the water at the background at 22:36 ?
Female modotan in the distance coming towards his song.
Now this is my kind of content
Heck yeah!
Are there other groups of sauropods alive in Kaimere today?
Absolutely! Western Arvel has a genus of indigenous titanosaurs, while Kairul has several clades.
I am confused because sometimes you say the tyrant dynasty is the longest dynasty but other times you say the Permian dynasty was the longest dynasty. So which dynasty is the longest.
The First Dynasty is the longest dynasty, starting around 360 mya to 255 mya plus or minus a few, so 100 million years, while the Tyrant Dynasty had a tenure of around 50-55 million years, and the Permian Dynasty lasted roughly 60-70 million years (late Permian to Early Jurassic)
Random question : In the Highland of Arvel, what small preys animals there are outside the Boar or the Takin ? Because for now, we know only bigs herbivores like the highland mammoth, the (wild form) Auroch, the future prehistoric rhino and maybe a possible prehistoric bison you haven"t decide or finalize yet, for the many locals predators !
Like cold small open spaces preys that lived during the prehistoric eurasia at the same time with the ancestors of these animals there a bucn of antilope/gazelle that can fitt this niche !
Like :
- the Procapra Asiatic Gazelle genus (P. gutturosa, P. picticaudata and P. przewalskii),
- the Saiga tatarica (Saiga)
- or the Pantholops hodgsonii (Tibetan antelope/Tchirou).
You can keep in mind these candidates/suggestions for the "maybe list", it's always taken if you want !
I am probably going to do the Western highlands as my first biome episode. In it I will discuss a lot of the herbivores present!
@@TalesofKaimere Great ! In the next video, I will likely put another commentary of suggestions (like cold prairie birds).
And you know, you are not obliged to draw every creature. You can simplely show us on screen their names (common and scientifics names) and take pictures of these animals from Google images or whatever (like you did for the Black Panthers pictures for the Big Cat video !).
It's most the dinos, endemic prehistoric and homunculus being who deserve mostly drawn.
I must ask, did the Modotan evolve a change in their teeth to feed on Houze Grass? Grass of any kind never existed when dinosaurs ruled over Earth and only those with the teeth for the job could feed on it. I imagine that Ornithiscian herbivores could do it, but most Sauropods have peg-like or leaf-shaped teeth with a body plan suggesting mostly feeding on either ferns, horsetails or trees.
A recent paper actually showed traces of grass in titanosaur dung! Grass was rare in the Cretaceous but was abundant in certain places. Modotan don’t have any specializations for it but their pseudo beak is up to the task of cropping it and past like 5 tons their hind guts are long enough that fermentation takes care of the cellulose that their stomachs are too acidic to handle. They can’t subsist only on grass, but it can be a solid supplement especially while migrating between more nutritious foods
@@TalesofKaimere Wow. I never knew that about grass and Titanosaurs before. Thanks!
what is the maximum size for Modtans? can they exceed their 200ft 150ton titanosaurs before
The names in this video make me wonder, how do you come up with the names for the animals? I get guess like cockatrice, but Wawakokwu is a pretty unique name I imagine is unique to Kaimere. Do you just through some letters together in an appropriate word or do you have an actual conlang under your belt too?
Great question! I have the bases of several conlangs. I either use them to make the names or go with names that sound similar which also turns around and helps expand my vocabulary
Oh and question, is it okay if I make a OC from your universe is that okay
Go for it!
This one was very cool!
Thanks!