I read your website a few years ago and it made a lot of sense. It helped me a lot, not just to breakdown and understand what was happening but how to make a change. I saw your video in my timeline and was like I'm definitely subscribing! Thanks for coming to TH-cam!
@@PerfectHairHealth Hi Robert, I'm a new discoverer of your material (website and now YT channel). Been dealing with hairloss for a handful of years, experimenting with minox as well as natural remedies (topicals, supplements, microneedling, massages etc.). Diet has also been a focus of mine as I believe nutrition has to be at the crux of most ailments, and thus I've tried paleo, vegan, Peat etc. Anyways, I've decided not to go the finasteride way. I'm aware side effects might be rare but I just think messing with enzymes and hormones is backward logic. I'd like to see you do a diet video comparing different diets' effect on hair loss. Thanks for all the good material, have a good one.
@@sumsar0125 Thank you! Expect a video about this soon. We're actually interviewing Dr. Shawn Baker tomorrow for the membership community, and have a few public content pieces coming out about the carnivore diet, microbiome, helminths, fecal microbiota transplants, etc. and their connections to hair loss. It's a fascinating subject and one that certainly deserves attention.
Thanks so much for sharing your hair loss journey. Only men and women who have experienced this know how traumatizing hair loss can be to one's overall self-esteem as our hair is so connected with our outward appearance and subsequent confidence. Many say it is vain to worry about hair loss (often while poking tasteless bald jokes at you); however, healthy self-esteem is so important to success in every part of life. It is a very expensive and frustrating journey trying to find treatments, devices, and products that will at least slow down and hopefully stop hair loss. Although I have learned to tolerate the bald jokes over the years, I can honestly say my hair loss has greatly impacted my overall self-confidence over the years.
Thank you Rob! Thought what i don't understand is how come you don't have any video on the head massage if that is what you personally did and it produced good results?
It's very simple why things such as scalp massages are never recommended. You don't make money off of people massaging their own scalps. Other people's misery is one of the best money makers in the world, the majority of people won't care how much they make you suffer with their dishonesty, the more miserable their customer is the more money they make, the hair loss industry is one of the best examples for this
ìt's very simple why things like scalp massages are never recommended. It's because they doesn't work so stop believing random shenanigans you read on the internet and get a scientific culture
You can make a TON of money convincing people that the root cause of androgenic alopecia is bloodflow by designing stupid gadgets that they argue somehow improve the bloodflow to hair follicles. While generic minoxidil and finasteride are not that expensive in the grand scheme of things
Physical exercise could be connected to hair loss if that was all there is. The guy here has articles explaining that the scalp "massage" etc will not work on most people if they dont take DHT blocker. But he doesnt want to ruin the overly happy mood in this vid by going in depth.
49 y/o and been balding for almost 20 years. I tried massage and gua sha but never more than a couple weeks at a time. I will give it a year and see if there is any improvement. Worse case scenario, I will relax my scalp.
The difference here is really that The pic from 2011 was taken at an angle where you could see directly through his hair (meaning that they were point toward the camera thus exposing the skin underneath). every picture thereafter was taken at a different angle in reduced lighting thus not exposing the silver dollar sized spot. That really just looks like a natural hair cowlick in an odd spot if anything.
Yeah, sun's brightness cannot be compared to bathroom in house. Pictures are taken from farther out, and front camera's quality is bad. Still I'd take a guess it's both small regrowth, and better stylization. (even if you debate over regrowth, it didn't get worse for sure) And some testimonals of massages do seem to have results. Anyway, you can massage your scalp some.
17:57 if you did take finasteride and didn't go down this path you wouldn't have helped thousands of people save their hair, it was a blessing in disguise.
Just wanted to share how grateful I am for you to make this channel and doing these videos. Your dedication and ambition towards your cause is admirable. This gem of a channel should definitely be in the millions of views.
Bro i am literally crying. I was loosing a lot of hair at corners but after four weeks of doing this massage I can see some improvement. I had full head of hair but from the last year it's falling off. Thanks for this man
Yeah I did, check out robs website. The information he has can’t be found anywhere. He’s a down to earth guy. I’ve been massaging for close to a year now and the shedding has stopped. I see my hairline has gotten sharper, thicker, and small white hairs have appeared. It’s been shedding lately because of Ramadan, but it’ll go back to normal once that’s over with
Yeah I did, check out robs website. The information he has can’t be found anywhere. He’s a down to earth guy. I’ve been massaging for close to a year now and the shedding has stopped. I see my hairline has gotten sharper, thicker, and small white hairs have appeared. It’s been shedding lately because of Ramadan, but it’ll go back to normal once that’s over with
@@naelchowdhury1404 yeah i have checked 3 years ago lol. I did massages, saw good results, than the hair got worse again and now might be getting better once again. It has been a roller coaster honestly
This is literally the best video on hair growth i have ever seen - never have i come even close to this - so thankful! i shared my and my brothers hair growth story in the comments already, but i love this video!
You gave me ALOT of hope and encouragement, I am also 17 today and i noticed that my hair was also thinning on the crown(and also all over unlike before it was so thick) but not like yours tho, but definitely thinning since I shed excessively (like 200 hair strand and yes i counted each) The shedding started just few days ago, I have always been on a lookout of my hair since my family history is bald and I am always scared of getting bald. For some reason your story is really relatable I am that today lol been searching all over and always end up on fin or mono, but sadly I don't have money for those, and I also can't get a check up since we are poor. I really REALLY hope this scalp massage works for me since its my only option BUT IM SURE IT WILL!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR I WILL DO THIS EVERYDAY CAUSE I LOVE MY HAIR AND I DONT WANNA LOOSE IT!!
Minimum total SSM efforts of 50 hours. Twice-daily, 20-min, hand-generated scalp massages spaced 12 h apart. SSM sessions were segmented into one of three rotational scalp regions (frontal/temporal, vertex, sides/back) and divided between hand presses, stretches, and pinches. SSM sessions were as follows: 3 min of warm-up (cyclical presses at 5-10 lb of downward force per hand across the entire scalp), followed by 17 min of region-specific tissue manipulation: 6 min of scalp skin pinches: single-handed or double-handed pinches with grip spaced 1-2 inches apart, applying 5-10 lb of downward force per hand, and holding 1-2 s before moving onto adjacent scalp skin 1-2 inches from previous pinch; 6 min of scalp skin presses: knuckle- or palm-based skin presses applying 10-20 lb of downward force, firmly planting against and manipulating scalp skin for 1-2 seconds before moving onto adjacent scalp skin 1-2 inches from the previous press; 5 min of scalp skin stretches: single-handed or double-handed skin stretches with grip spaced 1-2 inches apart, applying firm but comfortable pressure and holding for 1-2 s before moving onto adjacent scalp skin 1-2 inches from previous stretch.
@The Big Bite Guy Hello Mate, I'm not applying anything..just a hand massage, really.. I know that it's boring but you can do that whilst watching TV or even during bathroom duties etc. If you are married or in a relationship and you are both sitting on the sofa watching TV and you are doing a message to your head, then she is looking at you and thinking that you are gone mental mad😄😄😄
The science is probably correct here, but it seems unlikely that massage would leave permanent results for androgenic alopecia, due to constant production of DHT, maybe after a certain age this can somewhat happen, but hair thins your whole life pretty much no matter what, possibly his hair loss had some other cause
True, Let's say he had/Has MPB, IF he temporarely stopped MPB or even saw some imporvement on his hair from the head Massages, Actual MPB would have proceeded the moment he stopped the massages
Depends on how you wear your hair. He wears it combed to the side with long bangs...so we have no idea what his hairline looks like. I have very full hair on the sides and the back of my head..but I wear my hair combed back which gives the apperance.of a.full head of hair everywhere. But when u get close to me, my hairline has many gaps and you can see into my hair until your eyes hit the thicker hair in the back. So.for me the hairline is paramount. And I have found trying to massage the hairline specifically is very difficult. I heard a doctor say once..."if u really want to.see how much hair you have...comb your hair forward from back to to front and you will see just how thin it is. And because the way my hair grows, I cant really wear it so I can even hide the thinning. I'm 60yrs old and have had a full, thick head of hair my whole life. Then my grandkids were born and for whatever reason I started losing my hair. But anyway...if you are having problems with your hair...I wish you best of Luck!
@@bilvis48 you are f*kin 60? Why do you care if your hair is thin or not? I am f*kin 21 and my hairloss started when i was 17.. My forehead is so big, and my hair is thin.. You are here worrying about hair at 60 ...
Subscribed to your channel I can just feel you are the one who is genuine here or else it has become business to loot people by exploiting their emotions
Fascinating, Rob, however your problem at the crown is easier to fix than a hairline one. I'd like to see studies where massage succeeded in the latter scenario. Cheers.
I am a female in my 20's and already lost half of my hair... i know something is wrong with my body but my doctor wont help :( losing hair as a woman is so traumatizing
Female 33 here my doctor doesnt give a damn either. Im not sure how he wasnt phased at all ffom the intense shine coming off my head with those horrible hospital lights. He told me my hair looked fine and i dont need to be refereed to a derm
Sister... Try to eat healthy and nutritious food.... Try exercise regularly........try head massage... And IN INDIA there is a thing called pranayama.... Which helped a lot
If you take birth control, it causes deficiency of iodine, vit b12, zinc, folat and vitamin d. You should let your doctor test these. Also ferritin should be over 70. when sll these are high, your hair will be more again
Fantastic results and thank you . I threw my minoxidil away about 8 months ago.I too was going bald on my crown and tried minoxidil and continued to lose hair. I also tried many things like Biotin, rosemary oil and onion oil that actually increased my hair loss. So i started head massages once a day for 5 minutes...thats it. Ive managed to decrease my hairfall dramatically and also seem to have thicker hair. My bald patch is slowly recovering too...I dont derma roll but scratch my head very lightly once a week and this also increases bloodflow to my scalp...my scalp is slightly red after it. All this seems to be working and it hasnt cost me a penny. Steady away and time will tell. Also bending forward and allowing blodflow to the head seems to help. Lke i said im only doing this for 5 minutes a day and its working. Goodluck
@irahulsarkar4 Hair fall still daily which is apparently normal although it still freaks me out a bit. I dont think theres any cure for hairfall when its in its " telogen" fase so hopefully it will come to an end sometime. All i am doing is being really gentle with washing and brushing. Its got a little thinner on top but not bad. Time will tell
I don't understand. You claim that as a 17 year old, your dermatologist diagnosed you with male pattern baldness. Yet the pictures of yourself that you've shown in your youtube videos show you with a full hairline in tact, even when you were younger, and at most a small lightly balding area on top of your head. What's the story?
He was only loosing hair on the crown. He was just lucky. I'm loosing it heavily on the crown, temples, hairline and even diffuse thinning all over. Started at 16.
My and my brothers hair growth success story - we did follow a regimen, which took my brother 15 years to build which worked amazingly: 1. Fragrance Free Shampoo: Korean cosmetic industry already know why fragrance free - so research why if you're curious. Even baby shampoo is fragrance free. 2. Taoist Soap for Hair Growth 2x a week- stimulates hair growth, stops inflammation which is the root cause for all hair loss, including genetic and hormone based. 3. Stinging Nettle Tea everyday (make sure you aren't allergic) for removing hormone residue in the liver: this helps support a healthier balance for hormones, but obviously not a 100% cure. 4. Scalp Massage 20-30 minutes everyday - this is very under-rated - but works, you must do everyday. 5. Collagen Powder bovine based 2x tablespoon everyday - nutrition aspect of hair is covered, and will increase the speed of hair growth as well. 6. Cold water rinse (only top of head) after a shower: Do this especially if you get itchy scalp, or sensitive feeling scalp - just do the scalp, dont do it on the back of your head or neck will make you sick if you are weak. but i agree with above video - the entire industry relies on you not knowing. hair growth is complicated - you need to do various things to actually cover at least 5 areas of hair growth - nutrition, detox, hormone, inflammation and circulation.
Thanks, Rob, for all your research! My hair has come back a bit, still has a way to go, but I know it works. Your website and book are awesome! Thanks again!
I guess I'd just have to take your word for "stopping the massages" in 2019 leading to hair loss and the massages being the key factor in hair maintenance which I am not comfortable with. I will say anecdotally though I did a 20 minute massage last night with the pinch press stretch technique and it felt very nice by the end of it and I slept well so I will continue doing it.
Agree. Something off about this story. He claims massaging fixed it. He stops massaging and it's still fixed. Then he's pushing some drug at the end. 🤔🙄
@@aquaseahorselove3939Doing them for about 2 months 15-20 mins everyday since I found out I was balding, but other then help me sleep better, they haven't done much else. My hair are really thin and shedding a lot, especially my frontal hair. They're still good enough to go unnoticed, but until now, hairloss is definitely winning the race against massages.
Laser helped me a lot I’m 33 I had thinning now after a year my hair looks like how it was in college so I feel laser helped me the trick is to start a little earlier
Hi Rob I’m starting your remedy straight away today, I prefer the natural way (the massages) 💆🏻♂️ so I’ll let you know. Thank you thank you so much 🙏🏻✨
@@varunjain3259 I’m seeing a few new hairs more in the sides than the crown. Every morning and before bed 20min of massage 💆🏻♂️ and for shampoo REVITA just to keep it clean three times a week. My hair looks with more color and strength. It’s been almost 2 months I’ll keep doing it and I’ll let you know, but I think is working 🙌🏻
@@varunjain3259I use every variation that is in here th-cam.com/video/kOA9Giz2JMY/w-d-xo.html and microneedling (Derma roller) once a week and meditation (you know the law of attraction says that we can achieve anything so I’m visualizing perfect and healthy hair) 🙏🏻✨
An underrated hair loss prevention factor is daily step count. I never see people talking about this one. I didn't even have hair loss until the pandemic hit and I started working from home. My daily step count average went from 12k steps/day to 3k steps/day. That's when my hairline started receding. I now force myself to get atleast 8k steps/day (goal is to get blood to the scalp through movement), which is hard because I work from home.. but it is totally possible. 2-3 walks per day and a gym sesh typically does the trick. Or pick up a sport of some sort.
I have been using oral finasteride from the age of 20 until the age of 24 and never developed any facial hair. Once I stopped I started growing beard. I immediately made the connection and went looking for articles to back that up and found it. So I definitely know that DHT is responsible for secondary characters like beard and voice depth (if I remember correctly). Just observation
I’ve been massaging for 2 1/2 months and I’ll continue (because I want to believe), but I’m always a little troubled to see proponents of a methodology/remedy who never give us a good look at their hairline or crown. Their hair is always conveniently styled to cover these areas. I hope this works
Ashley Blacks Fascia Blasters (face blaster tools are a quick way to treat your scalp. Also using scalp oils (castor, coconut, argan, sweet almond on their own or a mixture of more than one) with rosemary essential oils.
This makes a lot of sense, so i’ve noticed if i wear my hair one way all day and then try to move it another direction or to the other side, my scalp/roots of my hair hurt really freaking bad. I had no i ldea why my HAIR hurt so much to move but it must be because my scalp is so tight! Holy shit i think i may have just figured my situation out with my hair loss. Spent 4 years of constant panic attacks/stress and i think that wound my scalp up with so much tension that i eventually started losing hairs. I literally have no one in my family with hair loss so it makes total sense. My dad still has a full head of hair at 63 although thin but still really good for his age. My grandpa on my moms side also still had a full head of hair at 88 when he passed last year. So this literally must be it cause theres no other genetic evidence from my family that would predispose me to balding. Im 29 now and first noticed hair thinning at 6 months into 27. Its slowly gotten worse but after just messaging my scalp this whole video it already feels great and i have this “relief” In my scalp now. Goodluck everyone!
Absolutely amazing. I started the massages in July 2021 with thinning temples. Some thin hairs started falling out, but thicker and longer hairs came back. Now, about 10 months later, my hairline is like when I was a teenager. My scalp also feels more flexible and healthy now. Wish I knew this years ago, I am now in my fourties. Now looking for a cure against grey hair. 😄
@@anynamez7048 I am about 15 years on finasteride and 40 years now. I started using it when my temples were thinning. They grew back a bit in the first years I used it. But only now, doing the massages, my original hairline has returned. Crazy but true. I now only do the massages of my hairline once a day, a bit shorter than than what Rob describes in his instructions. Regardless whether it is still necessary or useful, it just feels great.
I’m looking for an electric scalp massager so I don’t develop carpal tunnel syndrome. There are several on Amazon. An electric powered wearable cap scalp massager would be the best so I can just watch TV or do other things around my house. I have been applying Up & Up generic brand extra strength 5% Minoxidil I buy from Target for years applying daily after a shower and started to take Foligroth DHT blocker for about 6-8 months. The crown on my head has filled up and noticed baby hairs growing at my hairline. My scalp is still visible but the hair is getting denser. Also I haven’t seen or read anything on these types of hairgrowth YT videos saying getting Covid 19 contributed to hair loss but I believe I did experience it. I also take L- Citrulline Arginine supplement for improved blood flow
I (M25) have a receding hairline. Been massaging 2x a day for 6 months and microneedling 1x a week for 2 months. I THINK I see some tiny new growth but that could very well be old hair dying off that i didnt notice before. Will update monthly
@@sawyermcwilly764 first I use a wooden brush. Starting at my hairline and working my way back I do 10 circles in a spot and move on. I do that over my whole head. The goal there is to get the scalp to move as much as possible. This has definitely made my scalp looser. After that i do the pinch/pull technique with my fingers on the corners of my hairline since that's where I'm having issues. I hope this answers your question.
I feel confident that there was progress this month. The small hairs coming in look longer and stronger and it also looks like there's some more new growth
I am pretty sure my thinning has started due to my excessive "activity" nearly two months ago that had produced a lot more DHT than usual. I have since then stopped and focus entirely on microneedling my entire scalp, then applying a topical solution containing minoxidil + finasteride, pressing it onto the scalp with my fingers. I used to be on oral finasteride (1mg) as well, but it seems like it wasn't strong enough to block out that much DHT. Right now, I have also added a topical dutasteride solution and soon, I will also add oral dutasteride (0.5mg) tablets. I have never tried scalp massages, but it seems they are definitely helpful.
Based on your previous post and the blessing on my family Doc, I am giving Dutasteride a try over Finasteride. I will post progress as I see results. Thanks for the tip! Keep up with your informative non biased posts please. They are a rare breath of fresh air over the mass of poorly thought out and presented vids out there.
@@frang2023 Vast improvements! Since using Dutasteride for 4 months now the vellus hairs in the front have become thicker and longer, giving my mature hair far more thickness. My bald spot in the back of my head is slowly filling in as well. My daughter who has not seen me in months noticed immediately she said my hair looked excellent and way fuller. The only thing I have changed in my regimen ( Rogaine and microneedling ) is the addition of Duterstide over Finasteride. I know this, that I now have more and thicker hair than I did 10 years ago. My wife even says our recent family pictures prove that.
You are not the type of guy you are loosing hair stop it. I have androgenetic alopecia or thats what they told me. I had 3 hair transplant but i had zero hair regrowth i take finasteride almost 6 years now and iam still loosing hair up to the point that every time i wake up iam pretty sure that i will have almost a year before i ll be completely bald. Imagine this. Iam on the verge of depression and i feel lost. Now one seems to understand me and the society thinks is normal to be bald as a man. Even though i had some transplanted hair they still falling out. I had blood test and everything was ok. So i was wondering wtf is wrong with me and why i have to pass threw this......😢. Life is not fair
I didn't think DHT increased in a balding scalp, I thought just the _susceptibility_ to DHT increased, ie changes in gene expression in the follicles made them miniaturize.
So I grew my hair out. It's about to my shoulders, or a little longer. I noticed a significant amount of scalp pain and even some numbness and tenderness. I remember back to childhood, those bad memories of getting a bump on your head and having it swell up. If you touch that tight painful bump that stinging sensation it would cause... That's how my whole scalp has started to feel. Here's why, from what I can tell. #1. I take stimulant ADD medication which has tightened up my jaw and facial muscles. #2. My wisdom teeth are impacted and that has caused my temple muscles to almost completely seize. #3. The long hair has significantly increase the weight of my scalp and the downward pull. #4. I consume far more caffeine than I used to and I am more sedentary than ever, with tight rigid shoulders filled with stress. I started catching myself massaging my scalp and pushing on all the tender muscle groups that are tied in knots on my temples and thought about how tight and shiny the scalps of bald men are. Started researching and he I am. I think you're onto something. I know that dht is extremely important, but I cannot deny the extreme scalp tightness and pain and how the tightest areas are 100% where there is thinning.
It's been 3 months since I saw your video and started massaging my scalp.. Well one thing for sure is that I have seen progress my crown seems more fuller than before and the hairs which I already have are thicker and healthier but I don't think it's possible to fully cover my scalp with hairs as they were before the balding.. for that I think medication are needed.. The important thing is the information you have given is not entirely false. Edit: I will try this for next more 3 months and will update..
Bro didn't show anywhere clear picture of how bad his hair loss was before..his hair looked just normal there..just the natural at the crown that he shows as bald patch..
That's what I thought and this is the only picture he's showing? His hair in that video is thick and healthy looking, not what a guy who is blading normally looks like, granted he said he was on monoxodil at that point. But I've had a parting that looks like that since I was a kid it's called a double crown, I'm wondering was this guy more paranoid about going bald bs the reality of what was going on.
Yoooo thanks for this man! You dk how much time I spent on researching and finally find content like urs! I literally did exactly what you did. Doing vegan, carnivore diet etc and buying hair product & medication. This is so helpful. You should look into functional medicine as well, we need to get to the root of the problem to solve this hair loss issue. My test came out and my markers are all low and out of the healthy range. So two of them are the best match, one to solve the problem one to heal the hairline.
But I feel and am noticing that I am losing more hair and that my scalp is going more thinner since I started scalp massage...I don't know what's wrong????? Pls help me
Same thing is happening with me too, I've been massaging for 1.2 months and I don't expect results this fast but my hair is falling too. In the first month 60-70 hairs were falling per session and now it's 45-50 per session. Keep the hair count and stay in touch with me
Bro it could be the same effects as minoxidil, minox increases blood flow to hair follicles which at first causes hair shedding for a couple of months but then that causes to grow newer and thicker hair. The same thing could be with scalp massaging, this is my own speculations but I would think you should stick to it.
Good sign, you are losing the bad hair to get more stronger hair. When massaging, you are getting rid of those delicate hair which will fall anyway. Things take time. Give it 6 mo atleast.
Wow. I have spent way too much money on trying to keep my hair. I believe I have tried everything he did before his in-depth research. I am female and have male pattern thinning at temples and vertex. I have always had baby fine hair. Rogaine has helped, as well as taking Nutrofol and Spironolactone.I have done some micro needling but not consistently. I am going to try the message.
Thanks for sharing with these videos and your experiences! My ex-boyfriend used to make a point of massaging my hair anytime he stressed me out after drinking! I used to tell him that he'd need that more than me to calm his head and prevent hair loss, although at the time I was only guessing. I'm quite grey on my hairline, myself, presumably because I have dyed my hair since accidentally using "Sun-in" as a teenager. I was self-conscious at the time, wearing braces. Now, I'm doing my best to reverse the greying with guesswork, more or less, but massaging with clove water and drinking fenugreek tea as well as taking many natural supplements, particularly as I have lots of health problems. I seem to be sensitive to light, especially artificial light, too. My body is nearly always in pain, and oxidative stress. I just got my prolactin levels tested, by random researchers. Learning new things as often as possible is surely necessary. It is such a confusing world in terms of human biology right now! My mother just go very bright halogen lights fitted all over her house, and my sister's hair has started to fall out. I'm wondering if there's a connection. I've noticed that greys look different under artificial lights/cloudy sky (blue-yellow light spectrum, then) yet blonde under sunlight. I'd love to know more about what transitions link hair regrowth in terms of light. Eg. When is blonde grey, and when is grey blonde?! Is that the middle ground of hair change? So much to learn yet.... I'm using henna and indigo powder once or twice per year to hide greys and recently decided to stop cutting my fringe in case it was maintaining the greys. I can't shake the feeling that my hairs don't like getting the chop! After massaging my hair, it feels strong and silky, although it only lasts for a few hours before appearing dry again. ;)
Could someone explain why the course isnt just an article and requires an email? And why is it a daily email thing? Is there a benefit to doing it like that instead of just having it all laid out? I just don't understand the super weird system
Really like Rob and his massage techniques, but I got pretty bad elbow arthritis after 11 months of scalp massage. Didn't see aloteof results but probably started too late in life 😊
You didn't have rosemary oil in your list of natural solutions. I see articles online that say there's actual clinical research showing significant positive results.
Clinical research never favours natural remidies that doesn't generate money, and clinical researches that favours natural remidies would never come to limelite. Haircare is billions of dollar industry mate.
Around 19:20, i see massive growth in the guy in his december 2018 photo compared to april 2018. Such regrowth shouldn't have happened in such a short period of time(~6 months) given the time involved in hair cycle .
This all feels great! Thanks for the detailed information. I recently came upon a newly discovered plant-based compound called as Redensyl. Can you make a video about it's effect on hair loss?
I didnt get how self massaging would stop hair loss if isnt tackle the problem with dht? Second question would minox and dermaroller be longterm effective for the crone area or should i jump on fin+minox?
For what it's worth, I highly recommend Rob and his methods (I have no commercial relationship with Rob or his website). I started using his massage techniques when I was nearly 62 years old and have continued using them twice daily for more than 4 years. The results have been excellent: noticeable thickening of the hair throughout the top of my scalp and a gradual and continuing advance of my frontal hair line. The massages do take time, roughly 30 min/day total, but I find them relaxing, and it didn't take long for them to become a natural part of my daily routine, like brushing my teeth. The massages are the only treatment I have used; I have never used any medical treatments.
Awesome, Randy. Thank you! I am inspired to begin the massages on myself in earnest, now. I am 51, and for a long time I have had some thinning on the top of my scalp (down the center part line) and forehead corners recession. It hasn't gotten worse, but it hasn't gotten better - and I'm wondering (hoping!) if this massage is the answer. So would you say, 15 minutes in the morning and 15 in the evening is enough? Any tips on massage method or technique?
@@ChrisZ70 I would just follow the protocol that Rob demonstrates in his latest video. That takes about 15 min twice daily. He recommends spacing the two sessions about 11 hours apart to give the inflammation time to subside. I would also recommend using wooden tools like those that Rob gives away to new members. I made my own out of a wooden plank I had lying around the house, and they do give you much stronger purchase on your scalp, which allows much better pinching and stretching, especially. I think that may be why I continue to see improvement even after 5 years of this.
I was very skeptical about massage, started doing it twice a day for 5 min. each. After 5 days I noticed much less hair shedding especially during washing. 2 weeks later, saw many new sprouts in the front. Two months later my hair has significantly thickened overall with the added bonus that most new hairs are my natural color. Btw I am older than you.
I went gluten free 20 years ago. My hair looked exactly like the 2011 photo. My crown grew in and my receding hairline stopped within months. I did nothing but change my diet. I then dropped sugar and most cow dairy. I found bell peppers made my scalp itch and my hair fall out. Recently, I upped vitamin c, zinc with manuka honey. I have less grey and my hair is getting thicker. It’s all inflammation and nutrient deficiencies as far as I’m concerned.
@@indianamenesty3341 Changing your diet to a gluten-free diet is actually cheaper and healthier than a regular Western diet. Lemons, honey and foods containing zinc are cheap. If you can’t afford them, or don’t think you can, then you should concentrate more on making bank and learning about nutrition rather than worrying about your hair line.
It's possible that an approach like this might work! However, two quick notes: (1) if you're facing rapid-onset pattern hair loss, it's probably a good idea to get more aggressive with your treatments (i.e., DHT reduction); (2) headstands might improve blood flow through preexisting capillary passages, but for the reversal of hair follicle miniaturization, we're really hoping for angiogenesis (i.e., the creation of new blood vessels in AGA-affected tissues).
@@liamkucht Correct, as far as I know. Microneedling, microdermabrasion, intense massaging should lead to new blood vessel formation. Anything that temporarily causes (controlled) damage should promote bloodflow and the creation of new blood vessels.
I've also been doing hair massage for 2 months now as literally my pre-workout routine after facial exercises. It feels great and I could feel the new hair growing are a bit stronger and healthier. I do massage the entire scalp but I focus more on certain acupuncture points as a believer of oriental medicine. Watching this makes me wanna do it indefinitely! Details are very important especially if you wanna look good (that's why I've mentioned earlier that I also do face exercises lol). We go from head to toe consistently 😌
There's a muscle you can contract to move your scalp (Occipitalis muscle). Would performing reps of scalp movements have a similar effect to a massage? Stimulating blood flow to the area I mean.
I recommend using massage in a bundle, 1. Daily hiking from 1 hour and above, not running, even a bicycle is better, when you move, Nitric oxide is produced in the vessels, it dilates the vessels and the nutrition of cells in the body is better, but NO also quickly disintegrates and it cannot be increased in use, so walk more often in the fresh air in the air, avoid physical inactivity, and frequent strength training, and eat right! Я рекомендую использовать массаж в комплексе, 1. Ежедневные пешие прогулки от 1 часа и выше, не бег, лучше даже велосипед, когда вы двигаетесь, в сосудах вырабатывается оксид азота, он расширяет сосуды и улучшает питание клеток организма, но NO также быстро распадается и его употребление нельзя увеличить, поэтому чаще гуляйте на свежем воздухе, избегайте гиподинамии и частых силовых тренировок, а также правильно питайтесь!
I am using minoxidil for 1 year and after 6 month I hab great results, but 3 month ago my hair loss started again, a little bit. So i started dermarollering 5 weeks ago and after I started I loss way more hair then before. Could it be, because the dermaroller (0.5mm) creates a better effect on the minoxidil, so I have shedding again? pls answer!
Hi, thank you for the info. Curious if you ever used an electric vibrating massager at all, or know of cases where people used them? I'm thinking of combining manual massage with also using the former, and also combining these with daily head stands and yogic neck exercises (and maybe also a micro needle of some sort). I'm also taking saw palmetto and rubbing natural anti-DHT essential oils into the area. I also have a LED red light and infrared cap. My journey with being concerned with this, was during my early 40's, I started resistance/weight training and taking creatine (during Covid). One of these, or a combo of these, after about a month in, greatly sped up hair loss. I had a small bald spot in my crown area before, which expanded to be a bit bigger than your 2011 pic. After some treatment, it is closer to your 2011 pic now (slight improvement), but now I'm in the process of trying to refine and optimize treatments. The massaging info is fascinating. I've done a little of that previously, but definitely not much or enough. I'm also trying a couple more fringe methods. Using crude/unrefined oil 3 times a month, and a ultra violet/high frequency wand (allegedly improves circulation). These along with manual massage, an electric vibrator masssager, and/or treating the thyroid (by diet, a supplement called nascent iodine, and/or osteopathically) were recommended by an unusual person/source called Edgar Cayce. For reference, I'm now in my mid 40's. About 3 years later.
Do you have research on the gut microbiome affecting hair loss? I wonder if there are certain strains of probiotics that are missing that could be supplemented?
I also had this weird phenomena where I started to lose hair quite quickly and obviously in my early 20s. I began Ashley and Martin hairloss treatments for 1yr but had to stop because I got a gf and became poor. The progression of balding became a crawl in my mid 20s to 30s, even after years of stopping treatment.
I read your website a few years ago and it made a lot of sense. It helped me a lot, not just to breakdown and understand what was happening but how to make a change.
I saw your video in my timeline and was like I'm definitely subscribing! Thanks for coming to TH-cam!
Thanks for the kind words, Nakash! If you have any content requests, please let me know.
@@PerfectHairHealth Hi Robert, I'm a new discoverer of your material (website and now YT channel).
Been dealing with hairloss for a handful of years, experimenting with minox as well as natural remedies (topicals, supplements, microneedling, massages etc.). Diet has also been a focus of mine as I believe nutrition has to be at the crux of most ailments, and thus I've tried paleo, vegan, Peat etc.
Anyways, I've decided not to go the finasteride way. I'm aware side effects might be rare but I just think messing with enzymes and hormones is backward logic.
I'd like to see you do a diet video comparing different diets' effect on hair loss. Thanks for all the good material, have a good one.
@@sumsar0125 Thank you! Expect a video about this soon. We're actually interviewing Dr. Shawn Baker tomorrow for the membership community, and have a few public content pieces coming out about the carnivore diet, microbiome, helminths, fecal microbiota transplants, etc. and their connections to hair loss. It's a fascinating subject and one that certainly deserves attention.
@@PerfectHairHealth how long did you apply your two times daily massage for? Thx
@@PerfectHairHealth Me I take Saw Palmetto + gelatine + rosemarin oil shampoo and it works beautifully. Thank you Dr Berg ❤
Thanks so much for sharing your hair loss journey. Only men and women who have experienced this know how traumatizing hair loss can be to one's overall self-esteem as our hair is so connected with our outward appearance and subsequent confidence. Many say it is vain to worry about hair loss (often while poking tasteless bald jokes at you); however, healthy self-esteem is so important to success in every part of life. It is a very expensive and frustrating journey trying to find treatments, devices, and products that will at least slow down and hopefully stop hair loss. Although I have learned to tolerate the bald jokes over the years, I can honestly say my hair loss has greatly impacted my overall self-confidence over the years.
what are you doing for that? Are your hair getting better?
Thank you Rob! Thought what i don't understand is how come you don't have any video on the head massage if that is what you personally did and it produced good results?
You have to pay for that
It's very simple why things such as scalp massages are never recommended. You don't make money off of people massaging their own scalps. Other people's misery is one of the best money makers in the world, the majority of people won't care how much they make you suffer with their dishonesty, the more miserable their customer is the more money they make, the hair loss industry is one of the best examples for this
ìt's very simple why things like scalp massages are never recommended. It's because they doesn't work so stop believing random shenanigans you read on the internet and get a scientific culture
You can make a TON of money convincing people that the root cause of androgenic alopecia is bloodflow by designing stupid gadgets that they argue somehow improve the bloodflow to hair follicles. While generic minoxidil and finasteride are not that expensive in the grand scheme of things
Physical exercise could be connected to hair loss if that was all there is. The guy here has articles explaining that the scalp "massage" etc will not work on most people if they dont take DHT blocker. But he doesnt want to ruin the overly happy mood in this vid by going in depth.
Saving our hairlines one video at a time! Thanks for doing this, bud.
49 y/o and been balding for almost 20 years. I tried massage and gua sha but never more than a couple weeks at a time. I will give it a year and see if there is any improvement. Worse case scenario, I will relax my scalp.
Update pls
How is it going ?
@@dfveiga9 I gave up.
@@chdao lol
@@chdao lol
Well, at least you returned to reply.
Thanks.
You are a blessing to me, thank you for dropping this. May God bless you
This is helpful for my balding friends who wanted to get their hair back. This is God-send info. Thanks Rob!
The difference here is really that The pic from 2011 was taken at an angle where you could see directly through his hair (meaning that they were point toward the camera thus exposing the skin underneath). every picture thereafter was taken at a different angle in reduced lighting thus not exposing the silver dollar sized spot. That really just looks like a natural hair cowlick in an odd spot if anything.
Yeah, sun's brightness cannot be compared to bathroom in house.
Pictures are taken from farther out, and front camera's quality is bad.
Still I'd take a guess it's both small regrowth, and better stylization. (even if you debate over regrowth, it didn't get worse for sure)
And some testimonals of massages do seem to have results.
Anyway, you can massage your scalp some.
Still, he had a doctor diagnosed AGA and it didn't get worse in 10 years, so he was doing something right.
17:57 if you did take finasteride and didn't go down this path you wouldn't have helped thousands of people save their hair, it was a blessing in disguise.
From one academic to another - you're a great teacher. Great work and thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Just wanted to share how grateful I am for you to make this channel and doing these videos. Your dedication and ambition towards your cause is admirable.
This gem of a channel should definitely be in the millions of views.
Bro i am literally crying. I was loosing a lot of hair at corners but after four weeks of doing this massage I can see some improvement. I had full head of hair but from the last year it's falling off. Thanks for this man
So is this bad or not? I don’t understand did you see results or did you hair fall?
@@shadowgamer7552 I have small hair growing at the temples where there was no hair. So yeah, it's fine
@suyash chavan what did u do to get the results ? what should i do to get result like you ? pls reply
Any results?
@@SuyashChavan1997how long does it take for the session to start after we confirm our email
So happy your on TH-cam man!!! Recently cancelled my subscription, because it’s worked so well! Money well spent !
Great to hear! Thanks Nael
Did you see regrowth with massages ?
Yeah I did, check out robs website. The information he has can’t be found anywhere. He’s a down to earth guy.
I’ve been massaging for close to a year now and the shedding has stopped. I see my hairline has gotten sharper, thicker, and small white hairs have appeared. It’s been shedding lately because of Ramadan, but it’ll go back to normal once that’s over with
Yeah I did, check out robs website. The information he has can’t be found anywhere. He’s a down to earth guy.
I’ve been massaging for close to a year now and the shedding has stopped. I see my hairline has gotten sharper, thicker, and small white hairs have appeared. It’s been shedding lately because of Ramadan, but it’ll go back to normal once that’s over with
@@naelchowdhury1404 yeah i have checked 3 years ago lol. I did massages, saw good results, than the hair got worse again and now might be getting better once again. It has been a roller coaster honestly
This is one of the best videos I have ever seen ever! Thank you!
Thank you Rob for sharing this! I really appreciate it! :)
Thank you for watching!
This is literally the best video on hair growth i have ever seen - never have i come even close to this - so thankful! i shared my and my brothers hair growth story in the comments already, but i love this video!
You gave me ALOT of hope and encouragement, I am also 17 today and i noticed that my hair was also thinning on the crown(and also all over unlike before it was so thick) but not like yours tho, but definitely thinning since I shed excessively (like 200 hair strand and yes i counted each) The shedding started just few days ago, I have always been on a lookout of my hair since my family history is bald and I am always scared of getting bald. For some reason your story is really relatable I am that today lol been searching all over and always end up on fin or mono, but sadly I don't have money for those, and I also can't get a check up since we are poor. I really REALLY hope this scalp massage works for me since its my only option BUT IM SURE IT WILL!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH SIR I WILL DO THIS EVERYDAY CAUSE I LOVE MY HAIR AND I DONT WANNA LOOSE IT!!
Same bro
Do you have GAD per chance?
How's it gone man ?
Minimum total SSM efforts of 50 hours. Twice-daily, 20-min, hand-generated scalp massages spaced 12 h apart. SSM sessions were segmented into one of three rotational scalp regions (frontal/temporal, vertex, sides/back) and divided between hand presses, stretches, and pinches. SSM sessions were as follows:
3 min of warm-up (cyclical presses at 5-10 lb of downward force per hand across the entire scalp),
followed by 17 min of region-specific tissue manipulation:
6 min of scalp skin pinches: single-handed or double-handed pinches with grip spaced 1-2 inches apart,
applying 5-10 lb of downward force per hand,
and holding 1-2 s before moving onto adjacent scalp skin 1-2 inches from previous pinch;
6 min of scalp skin presses: knuckle- or palm-based skin presses applying 10-20 lb of downward force, firmly planting against and manipulating scalp skin for 1-2 seconds before moving onto adjacent scalp skin 1-2 inches from the previous press;
5 min of scalp skin stretches: single-handed or double-handed skin stretches with grip spaced 1-2 inches apart, applying firm but comfortable pressure and holding for 1-2 s before moving onto adjacent scalp skin 1-2 inches from previous stretch.
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Thank you very much for your kind informative comment. It is much appreciated! I would do as you suggested-hope that good karma works for you!
thank u broo👍👍
@@Rikki-lh2mw howz it going.... Now... You applying anything in massages... Oil.. ?
@The Big Bite Guy Hello Mate,
I'm not applying anything..just a hand massage, really.. I know that it's boring but you can do that whilst watching TV or even during bathroom duties etc.
If you are married or in a relationship and you are both sitting on the sofa watching TV and you are doing a message to your head, then she is looking at you and thinking that you are gone mental mad😄😄😄
The science is probably correct here, but it seems unlikely that massage would leave permanent results for androgenic alopecia, due to constant production of DHT, maybe after a certain age this can somewhat happen, but hair thins your whole life pretty much no matter what, possibly his hair loss had some other cause
I havent seen anything here that proves this gentleman ever had MPB!
True, Let's say he had/Has MPB, IF he temporarely stopped MPB or even saw some imporvement on his hair from the head Massages, Actual MPB would have proceeded the moment he stopped the massages
THE CROWN THATS IT!! most of us worry about hairline
Depends on how you wear your hair. He wears it combed to the side with long bangs...so we have no idea what his hairline looks like. I have very full hair on the sides and the back of my head..but I wear my hair combed back which gives the apperance.of a.full head of hair everywhere. But when u get close to me, my hairline has many gaps and you can see into my hair until your eyes hit the thicker hair in the back. So.for me the hairline is paramount. And I have found trying to massage the hairline specifically is very difficult. I heard a doctor say once..."if u really want to.see how much hair you have...comb your hair forward from back to to front and you will see just how thin it is. And because the way my hair grows, I cant really wear it so I can even hide the thinning. I'm 60yrs old and have had a full, thick head of hair my whole life. Then my grandkids were born and for whatever reason I started losing my hair. But anyway...if you are having problems with your hair...I wish you best of Luck!
Use a dermaroller
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@@bilvis48 you are f*kin 60? Why do you care if your hair is thin or not? I am f*kin 21 and my hairloss started when i was 17.. My forehead is so big, and my hair is thin.. You are here worrying about hair at 60 ...
Some people keep a nice hairline and start losing at the crown and top of the head which really sucks... Speaking from exp....
Subscribed to your channel I can just feel you are the one who is genuine here or else it has become business to loot people by exploiting their emotions
Cough **Hairguard** cough
This is the best video you have made on hair loss
You are a God send. Just saw you on What I've Learned and I proceeded to read all your articles and binge your channel. More videos please
There's hope, thanks, man. I'm really thinning now I'm off and on minoxidil it's frustrating I'll try your method dude
Any update ?
Update?
Good and no nonsense sound advice , thank you
Fascinating, Rob, however your problem at the crown is easier to fix than a hairline one. I'd like to see studies where massage succeeded in the latter scenario. Cheers.
If I had seen you anywhere else, I'd have been like, "this guy has perfect hair, wish I had hair like that"
I wish we could see his hairline
I am a female in my 20's and already lost half of my hair... i know something is wrong with my body but my doctor wont help :( losing hair as a woman is so traumatizing
Agree … I started at 14 .
Hormones are horrible
I'm sorry to hear that. We'll have some content on female hair loss available here soon. I hope it helps improve your situation.
Female 33 here my doctor doesnt give a damn either. Im not sure how he wasnt phased at all ffom the intense shine coming off my head with those horrible hospital lights. He told me my hair looked fine and i dont need to be refereed to a derm
Sister... Try to eat healthy and nutritious food.... Try exercise regularly........try head massage...
And IN INDIA there is a thing called pranayama.... Which helped a lot
If you take birth control, it causes deficiency of iodine, vit b12, zinc, folat and vitamin d. You should let your doctor test these. Also ferritin should be over 70. when sll these are high, your hair will be more again
Fantastic results and thank you . I threw my minoxidil away about 8 months ago.I too was going bald on my crown and tried minoxidil and continued to lose hair. I also tried many things like Biotin, rosemary oil and onion oil that actually increased my hair loss. So i started head massages once a day for 5 minutes...thats it. Ive managed to decrease my hairfall dramatically and also seem to have thicker hair. My bald patch is slowly recovering too...I dont derma roll but scratch my head very lightly once a week and this also increases bloodflow to my scalp...my scalp is slightly red after it. All this seems to be working and it hasnt cost me a penny. Steady away and time will tell. Also bending forward and allowing blodflow to the head seems to help. Lke i said im only doing this for 5 minutes a day and its working. Goodluck
Onion juice....not oil. Increased my hairfall
How are you managing your scalp, are you using some kind of oil or shampoo?
@@raldo7677 just using my fingers
@irahulsarkar4 Hair fall still daily which is apparently normal although it still freaks me out a bit. I dont think theres any cure for hairfall when its in its " telogen" fase so hopefully it will come to an end sometime. All i am doing is being really gentle with washing and brushing. Its got a little thinner on top but not bad. Time will tell
Any update man?
I don't understand. You claim that as a 17 year old, your dermatologist diagnosed you with male pattern baldness. Yet the pictures of yourself that you've shown in your youtube videos show you with a full hairline in tact, even when you were younger, and at most a small lightly balding area on top of your head. What's the story?
He was only loosing hair on the crown. He was just lucky. I'm loosing it heavily on the crown, temples, hairline and even diffuse thinning all over. Started at 16.
Hey Rob I have almost totally the same problem as you and this video has helped me very much !❤❤❤ crown thinning is one hell of a hoo ha to endure
My and my brothers hair growth success story - we did follow a regimen, which took my brother 15 years to build which worked amazingly:
1. Fragrance Free Shampoo: Korean cosmetic industry already know why fragrance free - so research why if you're curious. Even baby shampoo is fragrance free.
2. Taoist Soap for Hair Growth 2x a week- stimulates hair growth, stops inflammation which is the root cause for all hair loss, including genetic and hormone based.
3. Stinging Nettle Tea everyday (make sure you aren't allergic) for removing hormone residue in the liver: this helps support a healthier balance for hormones, but obviously not a 100% cure.
4. Scalp Massage 20-30 minutes everyday - this is very under-rated - but works, you must do everyday.
5. Collagen Powder bovine based 2x tablespoon everyday - nutrition aspect of hair is covered, and will increase the speed of hair growth as well.
6. Cold water rinse (only top of head) after a shower: Do this especially if you get itchy scalp, or sensitive feeling scalp - just do the scalp, dont do it on the back of your head or neck will make you sick if you are weak.
but i agree with above video - the entire industry relies on you not knowing. hair growth is complicated - you need to do various things to actually cover at least 5 areas of hair growth - nutrition, detox, hormone, inflammation and circulation.
Thanks, Rob, for all your research! My hair has come back a bit, still has a way to go, but I know it works. Your website and book are awesome! Thanks again!
@Sophie Vermaire thanks so much for the kind words! I’ll do the best I can! I hope the very best for you!
Thank you Chris!!!
@@PerfectHairHealth thank you, Rob! Keep up the great work!
Hi. How long are you doing these massages?
Started massaging 2 days ago, will be keeping up with it for a minimum of 4 months to wait for results
Update?
Any results?
Bro updateee????
Any update?
Update bro
I guess I'd just have to take your word for "stopping the massages" in 2019 leading to hair loss and the massages being the key factor in hair maintenance which I am not comfortable with. I will say anecdotally though I did a 20 minute massage last night with the pinch press stretch technique and it felt very nice by the end of it and I slept well so I will continue doing it.
Agree. Something off about this story. He claims massaging fixed it. He stops massaging and it's still fixed. Then he's pushing some drug at the end. 🤔🙄
@@aquaseahorselove3939Doing them for about 2 months 15-20 mins everyday since I found out I was balding, but other then help me sleep better, they haven't done much else. My hair are really thin and shedding a lot, especially my frontal hair. They're still good enough to go unnoticed, but until now, hairloss is definitely winning the race against massages.
0:13 what am I looking at? That is normal hair / crown
Laser helped me a lot I’m 33 I had thinning now after a year my hair looks like how it was in college so I feel laser helped me the trick is to start a little earlier
Hi Rob I’m starting your remedy straight away today, I prefer the natural way (the massages) 💆🏻♂️ so I’ll let you know. Thank you thank you so much 🙏🏻✨
update?
@@varunjain3259 I’m seeing a few new hairs more in the sides than the crown. Every morning and before bed 20min of massage 💆🏻♂️ and for shampoo REVITA just to keep it clean three times a week. My hair looks with more color and strength. It’s been almost 2 months I’ll keep doing it and I’ll let you know, but I think is working 🙌🏻
can you also share a detailed massage regimen
@@varunjain3259I use every variation that is in here th-cam.com/video/kOA9Giz2JMY/w-d-xo.html and microneedling (Derma roller) once a week and meditation (you know the law of attraction says that we can achieve anything so I’m visualizing perfect and healthy hair) 🙏🏻✨
Wow.... Good keep it up... Mine is also working
An underrated hair loss prevention factor is daily step count. I never see people talking about this one. I didn't even have hair loss until the pandemic hit and I started working from home. My daily step count average went from 12k steps/day to 3k steps/day. That's when my hairline started receding. I now force myself to get atleast 8k steps/day (goal is to get blood to the scalp through movement), which is hard because I work from home.. but it is totally possible. 2-3 walks per day and a gym sesh typically does the trick. Or pick up a sport of some sort.
You mean that it's important because of the circulation of blood?
I have been using oral finasteride from the age of 20 until the age of 24 and never developed any facial hair. Once I stopped I started growing beard. I immediately made the connection and went looking for articles to back that up and found it. So I definitely know that DHT is responsible for secondary characters like beard and voice depth (if I remember correctly). Just observation
I’ve been massaging for 2 1/2 months and I’ll continue (because I want to believe), but I’m always a little troubled to see proponents of a methodology/remedy who never give us a good look at their hairline or crown. Their hair is always conveniently styled to cover these areas. I hope this works
Really informative, you are doing good work. Keep it up
Ashley Blacks Fascia Blasters (face blaster tools are a quick way to treat your scalp. Also using scalp oils (castor, coconut, argan, sweet almond on their own or a mixture of more than one) with rosemary essential oils.
This makes a lot of sense, so i’ve noticed if i wear my hair one way all day and then try to move it another direction or to the other side, my scalp/roots of my hair hurt really freaking bad. I had no i ldea why my HAIR hurt so much to move but it must be because my scalp is so tight! Holy shit i think i may have just figured my situation out with my hair loss. Spent 4 years of constant panic attacks/stress and i think that wound my scalp up with so much tension that i eventually started losing hairs. I literally have no one in my family with hair loss so it makes total sense. My dad still has a full head of hair at 63 although thin but still really good for his age. My grandpa on my moms side also still had a full head of hair at 88 when he passed last year. So this literally must be it cause theres no other genetic evidence from my family that would predispose me to balding. Im 29 now and first noticed hair thinning at 6 months into 27. Its slowly gotten worse but after just messaging my scalp this whole video it already feels great and i have this “relief” In my scalp now. Goodluck everyone!
broo u made me realize that too thank u brother👍👍
Absolutely amazing. I started the massages in July 2021 with thinning temples. Some thin hairs started falling out, but thicker and longer hairs came back. Now, about 10 months later, my hairline is like when I was a teenager. My scalp also feels more flexible and healthy now. Wish I knew this years ago, I am now in my fourties.
Now looking for a cure against grey hair. 😄
This is crazy man you have great dedication. You only did the massages, correct?
@@anynamez7048 I am about 15 years on finasteride and 40 years now. I started using it when my temples were thinning. They grew back a bit in the first years I used it. But only now, doing the massages, my original hairline has returned. Crazy but true. I now only do the massages of my hairline once a day, a bit shorter than than what Rob describes in his instructions. Regardless whether it is still necessary or useful, it just feels great.
@@skinnymoonbob did you drop finasteride
@@skinnymoonbob how many times did you do the massages and for how long each massage session?
@@skinnymoonbob When did you notice the first new hairs coming in? 1st, 2nd, 3rd month?
Wow Rob! Thank you for sharing!
Awesome video ! Thanks Rob ! Gerard.
From what I've read hair loss is mainly due to poor circulation in the scalp so the massages make sense.
Yes. However, that's just one aspect.
Honestly man, your 2011 picture isn't quite convincing in showing that you were actually balding.
I hope you found a hobby other than this. There is so much more to life.
I’m looking for an electric scalp massager so I don’t develop carpal tunnel syndrome. There are several on Amazon. An electric powered wearable cap scalp massager would be the best so I can just watch TV or do other things around my house. I have been applying Up & Up generic brand extra strength 5% Minoxidil I buy from Target for years applying daily after a shower and started to take Foligroth DHT blocker for about 6-8 months. The crown on my head has filled up and noticed baby hairs growing at my hairline. My scalp is still visible but the hair is getting denser. Also I haven’t seen or read anything on these types of hairgrowth YT videos saying getting Covid 19 contributed to hair loss but I believe I did experience it. I also take L- Citrulline Arginine supplement for improved blood flow
What about a massaging stone for example a gua sha stone for massaging the scalp .thanks for your info .great video
I (M25) have a receding hairline. Been massaging 2x a day for 6 months and microneedling 1x a week for 2 months. I THINK I see some tiny new growth but that could very well be old hair dying off that i didnt notice before. Will update monthly
@JELL_HT appears to be some progress. However, that could also just be me being optimistic
How do you do the massages??
@@sawyermcwilly764 first I use a wooden brush. Starting at my hairline and working my way back I do 10 circles in a spot and move on. I do that over my whole head. The goal there is to get the scalp to move as much as possible. This has definitely made my scalp looser. After that i do the pinch/pull technique with my fingers on the corners of my hairline since that's where I'm having issues. I hope this answers your question.
@@0nt0p0fth3w0rld please keep me updated on your progress. I'm starting to do the same.
I feel confident that there was progress this month. The small hairs coming in look longer and stronger and it also looks like there's some more new growth
I am pretty sure my thinning has started due to my excessive "activity" nearly two months ago that had produced a lot more DHT than usual. I have since then stopped and focus entirely on microneedling my entire scalp, then applying a topical solution containing minoxidil + finasteride, pressing it onto the scalp with my fingers. I used to be on oral finasteride (1mg) as well, but it seems like it wasn't strong enough to block out that much DHT.
Right now, I have also added a topical dutasteride solution and soon, I will also add oral dutasteride (0.5mg) tablets.
I have never tried scalp massages, but it seems they are definitely helpful.
Based on your previous post and the blessing on my family Doc, I am giving Dutasteride a try over Finasteride. I will post progress as I see results. Thanks for the tip! Keep up with your informative non biased posts please. They are a rare breath of fresh air over the mass of poorly thought out and presented vids out there.
That's awesome to hear! I'm excited for your progress. Please keep us posted with how things go!
any improvements?
@@frang2023 Vast improvements! Since using Dutasteride for 4 months now the vellus hairs in the front have become thicker and longer, giving my mature hair far more thickness. My bald spot in the back of my head is slowly filling in as well. My daughter who has not seen me in months noticed immediately she said my hair looked excellent and way fuller. The only thing I have changed in my regimen ( Rogaine and microneedling ) is the addition of Duterstide over Finasteride. I know this, that I now have more and thicker hair than I did 10 years ago. My wife even says our recent family pictures prove that.
You are not the type of guy you are loosing hair stop it. I have androgenetic alopecia or thats what they told me. I had 3 hair transplant but i had zero hair regrowth i take finasteride almost 6 years now and iam still loosing hair up to the point that every time i wake up iam pretty sure that i will have almost a year before i ll be completely bald. Imagine this. Iam on the verge of depression and i feel lost. Now one seems to understand me and the society thinks is normal to be bald as a man. Even though i had some transplanted hair they still falling out. I had blood test and everything was ok. So i was wondering wtf is wrong with me and why i have to pass threw this......😢. Life is not fair
Absolutely authentic brilliance. 😊
Thankyou for the video!!
Dude's not even really balding. He would've been bald after ten years if he truly had androgenic alopecia.
I didn't think DHT increased in a balding scalp, I thought just the _susceptibility_ to DHT increased, ie changes in gene expression in the follicles made them miniaturize.
Currently, it's believed to be both! See this video: th-cam.com/video/bj2s23k7ktY/w-d-xo.html
So I grew my hair out. It's about to my shoulders, or a little longer. I noticed a significant amount of scalp pain and even some numbness and tenderness. I remember back to childhood, those bad memories of getting a bump on your head and having it swell up. If you touch that tight painful bump that stinging sensation it would cause... That's how my whole scalp has started to feel. Here's why, from what I can tell.
#1. I take stimulant ADD medication which has tightened up my jaw and facial muscles.
#2. My wisdom teeth are impacted and that has caused my temple muscles to almost completely seize.
#3. The long hair has significantly increase the weight of my scalp and the downward pull.
#4. I consume far more caffeine than I used to and I am more sedentary than ever, with tight rigid shoulders filled with stress.
I started catching myself massaging my scalp and pushing on all the tender muscle groups that are tied in knots on my temples and thought about how tight and shiny the scalps of bald men are. Started researching and he I am.
I think you're onto something. I know that dht is extremely important, but I cannot deny the extreme scalp tightness and pain and how the tightest areas are 100% where there is thinning.
Might want to Check orthotropics aswell.
It's been 3 months since I saw your video and started massaging my scalp.. Well one thing for sure is that I have seen progress my crown seems more fuller than before and the hairs which I already have are thicker and healthier but I don't think it's possible to fully cover my scalp with hairs as they were before the balding.. for that I think medication are needed.. The important thing is the information you have given is not entirely false.
Edit: I will try this for next more 3 months and will update..
Have you added derma rolling into your routine? It might really help.
@@adamh7947 I have considered it before but I am a diabetic patient and doctor didn't prescription it as it may possibly cause infection.
Update please
Update?
Bro didn't show anywhere clear picture of how bad his hair loss was before..his hair looked just normal there..just the natural at the crown that he shows as bald patch..
That's what I thought and this is the only picture he's showing? His hair in that video is thick and healthy looking, not what a guy who is blading normally looks like, granted he said he was on monoxodil at that point. But I've had a parting that looks like that since I was a kid it's called a double crown, I'm wondering was this guy more paranoid about going bald bs the reality of what was going on.
Yoooo thanks for this man! You dk how much time I spent on researching and finally find content like urs! I literally did exactly what you did. Doing vegan, carnivore diet etc and buying hair product & medication. This is so helpful.
You should look into functional medicine as well, we need to get to the root of the problem to solve this hair loss issue. My test came out and my markers are all low and out of the healthy range. So two of them are the best match, one to solve the problem one to heal the hairline.
@Sea1 And? What you tryna say
But I feel and am noticing that I am losing more hair and that my scalp is going more thinner since I started scalp massage...I don't know what's wrong????? Pls help me
Same thing is happening with me too, I've been massaging for 1.2 months and I don't expect results this fast but my hair is falling too. In the first month 60-70 hairs were falling per session and now it's 45-50 per session. Keep the hair count and stay in touch with me
Bro it could be the same effects as minoxidil, minox increases blood flow to hair follicles which at first causes hair shedding for a couple of months but then that causes to grow newer and thicker hair. The same thing could be with scalp massaging, this is my own speculations but I would think you should stick to it.
Good sign, you are losing the bad hair to get more stronger hair. When massaging, you are getting rid of those delicate hair which will fall anyway. Things take time. Give it 6 mo atleast.
If you want to give it for free, why not make a video? Why are you asking for email information?
Dude, THANK YOU. I’m starting your massage regimen NOW, and if it works I will be the most grateful man in the world to you
Where did you get the massage instructions? I entered my email but it doesn't give me anything.
Video: vimeo.com/310444236/bed6eb03c2
PDF: perfecthairhealth.com/dermatology-and-therapy/excerpt_suppinfo1.pdf
@@PerfectHairHealth Awesome! Thank You!
any updates bro?
Any update man ?
Wow. I have spent way too much money on trying to keep my hair. I believe I have tried everything he did before his in-depth research. I am female and have male pattern thinning at temples and vertex. I have always had baby fine hair. Rogaine has helped, as well as taking Nutrofol and Spironolactone.I have done some micro needling but not consistently. I am going to try the message.
Did it work for you , any updates ?
Thanks for sharing with these videos and your experiences! My ex-boyfriend used to make a point of massaging my hair anytime he stressed me out after drinking! I used to tell him that he'd need that more than me to calm his head and prevent hair loss, although at the time I was only guessing. I'm quite grey on my hairline, myself, presumably because I have dyed my hair since accidentally using "Sun-in" as a teenager. I was self-conscious at the time, wearing braces. Now, I'm doing my best to reverse the greying with guesswork, more or less, but massaging with clove water and drinking fenugreek tea as well as taking many natural supplements, particularly as I have lots of health problems. I seem to be sensitive to light, especially artificial light, too. My body is nearly always in pain, and oxidative stress. I just got my prolactin levels tested, by random researchers. Learning new things as often as possible is surely necessary. It is such a confusing world in terms of human biology right now! My mother just go very bright halogen lights fitted all over her house, and my sister's hair has started to fall out. I'm wondering if there's a connection. I've noticed that greys look different under artificial lights/cloudy sky (blue-yellow light spectrum, then) yet blonde under sunlight. I'd love to know more about what transitions link hair regrowth in terms of light. Eg. When is blonde grey, and when is grey blonde?! Is that the middle ground of hair change? So much to learn yet.... I'm using henna and indigo powder once or twice per year to hide greys and recently decided to stop cutting my fringe in case it was maintaining the greys. I can't shake the feeling that my hairs don't like getting the chop! After massaging my hair, it feels strong and silky, although it only lasts for a few hours before appearing dry again. ;)
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Could someone explain why the course isnt just an article and requires an email? And why is it a daily email thing? Is there a benefit to doing it like that instead of just having it all laid out? I just don't understand the super weird system
I gonna watch all your video starting this one.
Dear Rob,
If this will work for me, I will literally buy a plane ticket an personally thank you
Really like Rob and his massage techniques, but I got pretty bad elbow arthritis after 11 months of scalp massage. Didn't see aloteof results but probably started too late in life 😊
Sorry to know that it didn't work out for you but could be a age factor? How old are you may I ask please?
You didn't have rosemary oil in your list of natural solutions. I see articles online that say there's actual clinical research showing significant positive results.
Clinical research never favours natural remidies that doesn't generate money, and clinical researches that favours natural remidies would never come to limelite.
Haircare is billions of dollar industry mate.
Around 19:20, i see massive growth in the guy in his december 2018 photo compared to april 2018. Such regrowth shouldn't have happened in such a short period of time(~6 months) given the time involved in hair cycle .
yeah. this comparison looks too good to be true.
dente911ify, what is the regiment did this guy use to maintain his hair?
This all feels great! Thanks for the detailed information. I recently came upon a newly discovered plant-based compound called as Redensyl. Can you make a video about it's effect on hair loss?
I didnt get how self massaging would stop hair loss if isnt tackle the problem with dht?
Second question would minox and dermaroller be longterm effective for the crone area or should i jump on fin+minox?
Because where there is no oxygen (blood), DHT and inflammation are more.
For what it's worth, I highly recommend Rob and his methods (I have no commercial relationship with Rob or his website). I started using his massage techniques when I was nearly 62 years old and have continued using them twice daily for more than 4 years. The results have been excellent: noticeable thickening of the hair throughout the top of my scalp and a gradual and continuing advance of my frontal hair line. The massages do take time, roughly 30 min/day total, but I find them relaxing, and it didn't take long for them to become a natural part of my daily routine, like brushing my teeth. The massages are the only treatment I have used; I have never used any medical treatments.
Awesome, Randy. Thank you! I am inspired to begin the massages on myself in earnest, now. I am 51, and for a long time I have had some thinning on the top of my scalp (down the center part line) and forehead corners recession. It hasn't gotten worse, but it hasn't gotten better - and I'm wondering (hoping!) if this massage is the answer. So would you say, 15 minutes in the morning and 15 in the evening is enough? Any tips on massage method or technique?
@@ChrisZ70 I would just follow the protocol that Rob demonstrates in his latest video. That takes about 15 min twice daily. He recommends spacing the two sessions about 11 hours apart to give the inflammation time to subside. I would also recommend using wooden tools like those that Rob gives away to new members. I made my own out of a wooden plank I had lying around the house, and they do give you much stronger purchase on your scalp, which allows much better pinching and stretching, especially. I think that may be why I continue to see improvement even after 5 years of this.
I was very skeptical about massage, started doing it twice a day for 5 min. each. After 5 days I noticed much less hair shedding especially during washing. 2 weeks later, saw many new sprouts in the front. Two months later my hair has significantly thickened
overall with the added bonus that most new hairs are my natural color. Btw I am older than you.
@@quakerlyster where can I see a vid where he actually demonstrates the massages??
so happy to see this....
I love listening to you gives me hope
I went gluten free 20 years ago. My hair looked exactly like the 2011 photo. My crown grew in and my receding hairline stopped within months. I did nothing but change my diet. I then dropped sugar and most cow dairy. I found bell peppers made my scalp itch and my hair fall out. Recently, I upped vitamin c, zinc with manuka honey. I have less grey and my hair is getting thicker. It’s all inflammation and nutrient deficiencies as far as I’m concerned.
Everyone can't afford luxuries you have
@@indianamenesty3341 Changing your diet to a gluten-free diet is actually cheaper and healthier than a regular Western diet. Lemons, honey and foods containing zinc are cheap. If you can’t afford them, or don’t think you can, then you should concentrate more on making bank and learning about nutrition rather than worrying about your hair line.
@@johnlibonati7807 I'm talking about manuka honey
@@indianamenesty3341 I got it at a discount grocery for cheap because it was out of date.
@@johnlibonati7807honey goes out of date?
Thank you man the main soultion is scale message and head stands
It's possible that an approach like this might work! However, two quick notes: (1) if you're facing rapid-onset pattern hair loss, it's probably a good idea to get more aggressive with your treatments (i.e., DHT reduction); (2) headstands might improve blood flow through preexisting capillary passages, but for the reversal of hair follicle miniaturization, we're really hoping for angiogenesis (i.e., the creation of new blood vessels in AGA-affected tissues).
@@PerfectHairHealth How do we trigger angiogenesis? acute inflammation?
@@liamkucht Correct, as far as I know. Microneedling, microdermabrasion, intense massaging should lead to new blood vessel formation. Anything that temporarily causes (controlled) damage should promote bloodflow and the creation of new blood vessels.
@@liamkucht learn from cancer cells
I've also been doing hair massage for 2 months now as literally my pre-workout routine after facial exercises. It feels great and I could feel the new hair growing are a bit stronger and healthier. I do massage the entire scalp but I focus more on certain acupuncture points as a believer of oriental medicine. Watching this makes me wanna do it indefinitely! Details are very important especially if you wanna look good (that's why I've mentioned earlier that I also do face exercises lol). We go from head to toe consistently 😌
Wait, you can FEEL your hair growing ?!
@@maloxi1472 "I could feel the new hair growing are a bit stronger and healthier" the linking verb is the "are"
@@ZeePark21 Ah ok ! I thought you had unlocked a superpower from the increased blüdflow, for a moment there 😄
How exactly do you massage?
Can you tell us your massage routine or technique please?
There's a muscle you can contract to move your scalp (Occipitalis muscle). Would performing reps of scalp movements have a similar effect to a massage? Stimulating blood flow to the area I mean.
No , that can tackle the bloodflow theory but it doesn't deal with fibrosis and calcification which are targeted by mechanical therapy aka massages
I recommend using massage in a bundle, 1. Daily hiking from 1 hour and above, not running, even a bicycle is better, when you move, Nitric oxide is produced in the vessels, it dilates the vessels and the nutrition of cells in the body is better, but NO also quickly disintegrates and it cannot be increased in use, so walk more often in the fresh air in the air, avoid physical inactivity, and frequent strength training, and eat right!
Я рекомендую использовать массаж в комплексе, 1. Ежедневные пешие прогулки от 1 часа и выше, не бег, лучше даже велосипед, когда вы двигаетесь, в сосудах вырабатывается оксид азота, он расширяет сосуды и улучшает питание клеток организма, но NO также быстро распадается и его употребление нельзя увеличить, поэтому чаще гуляйте на свежем воздухе, избегайте гиподинамии и частых силовых тренировок, а также правильно питайтесь!
I am using minoxidil for 1 year and after 6 month I hab great results, but 3 month ago my hair loss started again, a little bit. So i started dermarollering 5 weeks ago and after I started I loss way more hair then before. Could it be, because the dermaroller (0.5mm) creates a better effect on the minoxidil, so I have shedding again? pls answer!
So inspiring, thanks for sharing your story Rob 💗🇵🇭
5:12 Bro, come on. Are you for real? That's completely normal hair density, wtf?
normal if u were balding lol
i think it is a little to big to be just a cowlick
Thank you Rob.
thank you very much, i began 3 days ago hard combing
Hi, thank you for the info.
Curious if you ever used an electric vibrating massager at all, or know of cases where people used them? I'm thinking of combining manual massage with also using the former, and also combining these with daily head stands and yogic neck exercises (and maybe also a micro needle of some sort).
I'm also taking saw palmetto and rubbing natural anti-DHT essential oils into the area. I also have a LED red light and infrared cap.
My journey with being concerned with this, was during my early 40's, I started resistance/weight training and taking creatine (during Covid). One of these, or a combo of these, after about a month in, greatly sped up hair loss. I had a small bald spot in my crown area before, which expanded to be a bit bigger than your 2011 pic.
After some treatment, it is closer to your 2011 pic now (slight improvement), but now I'm in the process of trying to refine and optimize treatments. The massaging info is fascinating. I've done a little of that previously, but definitely not much or enough.
I'm also trying a couple more fringe methods. Using crude/unrefined oil 3 times a month, and a ultra violet/high frequency wand (allegedly improves circulation). These along with manual massage, an electric vibrator masssager, and/or treating the thyroid (by diet, a supplement called nascent iodine, and/or osteopathically) were recommended by an unusual person/source called Edgar Cayce.
For reference, I'm now in my mid 40's. About 3 years later.
Is it possible that you provide me the video if it exists on how to do a scalp massage and how often should it be done? many thanks...
Do you have research on the gut microbiome affecting hair loss?
I wonder if there are certain strains of probiotics that are missing that could be supplemented?
That’s how people solve problems!
Started yesterday, going to post a feedback in 3 months
Any results?
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Is there any video or guide we can use to know how long to massage, what technique, etc.. I’d love to give it a try
I also had this weird phenomena where I started to lose hair quite quickly and obviously in my early 20s. I began Ashley and Martin hairloss treatments for 1yr but had to stop because I got a gf and became poor. The progression of balding became a crawl in my mid 20s to 30s, even after years of stopping treatment.
How is your hair now?
Try Minoxidil and dermaroller
Aye Man really appreciate it your work.