iPad Killer or Clone?
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Neither the clone nor the killer... Just a competition to Samsung's tablet range😅
Exactly bro
Yeah I agree. Android tablets can only compete with themselves. I have an M1 iPad Pro and never switch because of my Apple products. But I can imagine someone with android would love this
Most definitely a clone… just an android clone.
@James Flores in my opinion my galaxy tab s8 ultra is an amazing machine that can definitely give the iPad a run for its money. With that being said both have pros and cons
@@ZeroGrav360So if I make art using someone’s art style, that’s copying? No.
Anyone remember the Asus Transformer Prime? A decade old tablet now but still one of the best implementations of keyboard and tablet: supported by its own hinge and an additional battery to boot. Still, being an Android tablet it had its fair share of problems.
I had one. It was awesome to have in high school to replace my Eee PC.
It was my first tablet: absolutely amazing, except for the bezels and the cameras.
Still have my TF201 hanging around in the cabinet (and yeah, software held it back big time). I'm surprised so few tablets have used that type of keyboard, mostly Windows ones like the Surface Book. Everything else seems to use this awkward folio stand style that requires a table.
I had one of those. I remember selling the keyboard cuz I wasn't using it. I also remember getting the ROMs from XDA. 😆
I always wanted one when I was a kid, thought it was cool. I never got one though.
Split screen shouldn't be too much of an issue. If you go into the developer settings (after you enabled it), there's a setting(s) to force any app into split screen. If the app is made half decent it will work quite well. I've been using it for years to watch TH-cam and play games. That's also not even on a tablet (Xiaomi Remi Note 10Pro). Definitely give it a try!
Ikr and TBF half of tablet screen is often same as a phone so really most good apps should just work fine
I’ve been using a 6+ yo iPad for multiple hours daily consistently throughout its life. I’ve kept it alive by not updating it and it still runs perfect. That is something that I really can’t see being translated to not only competitors, but also apples current generation tech.
Great video again, Marques. As always, your attention to detail and insightful analysis shine through. Keep up the fantastic work🥰
A lot of companies misinterpret the iPad’s success by trying to make better hardware at a cheaper price, but the iPad it’s not a hardware product, it’s a software one. No matter how good your hardware is… if you don’t have the software to back it up, everything else is meaningless. That is why people don’t want anything but an iPad (when it comes to tablets).
I’ve never used an android tablet (or phone for that matter) but if the OS is good enough for so many people on phones- is it not good on a tablet somehow?
so true
Facts
For me, who doesn't own a single apple device and is not invested into the apple eco system at all the iPad is an absolute no-go. The software actually makes it worse for me, so I am very happy to see more alternatives coming back to the market...
Android runs Adobe what else do you want
The biggest issue I have with Android tablets, even though I own a Tab S7 plus, is that a lot apps aren’t optimized for android tablets. Media consumption is great, just not that good for productivity/work.
I couldn't agree more. Apps being just wider phone versions are borderline unusable for me
That was one of the first things I noticed when I got the OnePlus Pad. Hopefully that will improve over time, especially now that Google is releasing its own tablet.
@@HouseMusicAllNightLong android tablets have been "improving over time" for like 10 years now
@@pabl0sauced0Except it’s all in the hardware side and almost no progress on the App side
My ipad has the same issue. Like opening credit karma is rotated 90° and looks like a blown up iphone screen. Blech.
For the majority of tablet buyers/enthusiasts, yes, we can consider it an iPad killer. However, personally, I've never viewed the iPad as a mass product, even though it is. Its use seems to be specific and specialized. I recently sold my iPad because I couldn't find a real purpose for it during my day-to-day simple tasks, the girl who bought it has some kind of marketing job and she was astonished by how useful the iPad could be for her 😅
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Both of them's overpriced they have done it for 1/2 the price
Most benefits of tablet devices that I can think of are for students/educators taking notes or presenting things. That's basically it. Can't think of any other profession that might prefer tablets over laptops.
@@triparadox.c for reading comics,books
That slicing the middle is quite nicely done! 😮
I bought one of these 2 weeks ago. Absolutely love it. I don't use it except for watching shows and listening to music or browsing the web. It does everything I need for a bargain and it's powerful and has a very decent battery life. I get an average of 10 hour screen on time.
@@nagsentorne I sometimes use it to read as well. It's very nice and intuitive for light reading. I wouldn't say it's on par with iPad in some features but there are certainly apps out there that has features for you to study. I just use the basic PDF app. I wouldn't call this a killer tablet when it comes to video editing or drawing. But for daily use it definitely does the job.
Well I get the battery part for my 230 quid Tab A7
So why not buy a cheap tablet then ?
This is almost 500$ it has to be powerful for android 1+ tablet
@@ko-Daegu I've used cheaper Android tablets before. It's too sluggish. This is a good balance between screen quality and power with exceptional battery life. Personally, I paid only $400 bucks with tax and shipping since I had some left over credits from OnePlus.
@@nagsentorne they are listening lol(Uncle Roger talkshow ),cus one plus made in China , similar with Hua Wei device, just a joke.
As a windows and android person, even I got an iPad Pro to learn graphic design because of Procreate. There is certain stuff that no one does better.
Same, I got an iPad Pro just for Procreate even though I hate iPadOS.
actually apple pays procreate to not develop for android )
Yep, procreate is unbeatable.
@@CHAITHANYAkitta soon they’ll pay for your electricity bill 😂
Same for me. iPads also have Photoshop so the workflow speeds up by a lot (instead of using a standard graphic tablet). There's no competitors, iPad is iPad and tablets are tablets that's it
Love the Samm Henshaw shout out, dude is so talented.
I wish he covered the software experience more since it's been an issue in recent OnePlus phones.
It definitely won't make people switch from the iPad, but mainly targeted at OnePlus or even general Android users. 🤷
Agreed 💯
Yeap
Cap
As an Android user, I won't buy OnePlus crap
yup, it really is a good tablet and I recommend anyone except Samsung users to choose it.
Samsung integrates well with other Samsung devices. Samsung Flows really make it flows.
Would love to see a comparison between this and the Pixel tablet once it finally ships in June
YESSSSS !!! I want Google to step up their game on the watch so I can buy one. I've been loving the pixel phone so far. I wanna dive into a pixel ecosystem but it doesn't exist 💀
Pixel tab sucks and is uncomparable cus its spec is mid for that price range. i heard its still g2tensor chip which essentially dont outperform any chipset intrroduced by any tab in this pricerange and it has average display and camera with worst battery life.
pixel loses already lol. I was expect a better device from them but well, it's google. They create a smart home hub-tablet, which is super useless for me. And as a cherry on top, g2 tensor is a bad chip. I doubt it can't even compete with my tab s7- snap 865+. While people need more productivity app/feature, they give you a useless hub-screen
Just from the processor alone, Pixel tablet already loses. G2 Tensor chip is pretty bad.
Untrue, I will be getting rid of my 64gb ipad air m1 for this tablet.
The pixel tablet is probably a big factor in encouraging better development of Android tablet apps. Once it hits the market, I expect there'll be a decent uptick in the amount of Android tablet apps, which all of the ecosystem benefits from, from Samsung to Huawei to OnePlus.
I’ve never owned an iPad but I I’m on my 3rd MacBook, I have 2 Apple TVs, Apple Watch, and an iPhone. I’m very familiar with Apple products.
When I saw OnePlus Pad previews coming out I was VERY excited. I wanted a tablet to replace ALL my notebooks around the house and to do writing and editing on the go.
When I first got the OnePlus Pad I was a bit frustrated because I struggling to find the best note-taking app until I finally stumbled upon Nebo.
The battery life is AMAZING!
All in all - for my use case - the OnePlus is great and I’m excited to have it and green is my favorite color 😭😭 🙌🏾
Thanks for the review. I still use my Huawei MediaPad M5, mainly just for content consumption (Netflix, Amazon Prime, BBC iPlayer, etc) when travelling and still find it ideal - great battery life, USB-C charging, MicroSD card slot for expansion. It cost me £269 over 5 years ago and still going strong!
I still want the 8" version of that tablet. I currently use galaxy tab s4. I chose it over the m5 because of the headphone jack. It's still perfectly fine.
You are right bro, it make sense. Me and my wife have iPad Mini 2, iPad Air 2 both are became slow and lost battery capacity, they are due for replacement. Since we only use them for watching Netflix during bed time, I think its better to get a good display Android tablet for such purpose.
@@danielmasungwa5546 legion y700 is a very good tablet
@@pascalguyard4401 yes but just like the m5 8" it's not available in my country. I may have to settle for the ipad mini
@@jamestien6761you should get xiaomi mi pad 5, or the redmi version. I'm actually using the former and it is really great! It's usually 400 but I got it for 280€ after sales and discounts . Beautiful oled screen with 120hz refresh rate, 4 dolby atmos speakers, nice powerful snapdragon 860 chip + 6gb(+2) ram. Can play easily full hd videos, heavy gaming is also great. And a big 8720mah battery .
'How Kobe Bryant inspired Marques to launch his own sneaker' - I see what you did there, well played! :D 4:22
Thanks, Marques, good review😊
Hey Marques! OnePlus 9 Pro user here! Great video, very detailed and I loved your insights on the camera and software specs.
How about the pencil? Since I'm an artist, one of the main reasons that made me got the iPad Air 4 was obviously the Apple Pencil 2nd gen and Procreate.
Does the OnePlus Pad offers something like this? How is the sensitivity compared to the Apple Pencil and iPad display sensitivity points?
And how do you find the color calibration compared to Apple devices?
Thanks!
2:50 "All We Had to Do Was Follow the Damn Train CJ"
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childhood horror
The longevity of ipad is amazing, not to mention the iPad Air 2 is still receiving iOS update!
lol
For studying it's really good
🥺true. they really care about the ecosystem and hence the update..whereas you know....😋
If the new software buggy and laggy, why update though
Yes, some people that bought the Tab S7+ in Dec 2021 only got one Android update and will not get Android 14! That is a tablet that cost around £800-1000!
Hey Marques, would love to hear your thoughts on the mini tab market. I'm still rocking a Sony Xperia Z3 tab compact, if you remember that one... Still has brilliant hardware, just an outdated processor... Nothing has been made like it since..
Please review Lenovo Yoga Book 9i...dual screen
MKB Like how you are doing different videos on other products and keeping your mind open to new products.Thank you so much for sharing.✌️
I have the tab s8 ultra and I loveeeeee it. I showed it to a my roommate and my coworker who both have iPad and showed them all the functionality, the Multitasking, the dex mode, the media and browsing capabilities. I use it as my sole work laptop that manages documents, spreadsheets, video chat, telehealth calls, presentations, emails, note taking, psychotherapy notes, as well as casual gaming, messaging, graphic design, digital art, dual screen mirroring, and streaming videos, TV and film. They were both thoroughly impressed. Not to mention an incredible battery life, a great keyboard I never have to charge, an S pen INCLUDED with the tablet for FREE. I don't know why so many people think saumsungs tablets are inferior. I find mine to be immensely more advanced than any iPad I've ever seen or used.
Sumsung is the king of Android tablets period ❤️❤️. I've been using mine everyday nonstop for the last year and a half also I've never felt a need to buy a laptop, it's so well optimised for my use. I don't see myself switching to an ipad since it's only going to better with upcoming models.
Except when it comes to the software and having professional applications or even a massive catalog of apps, you'll be missing out. That's the main problem right now with android tablets, they need the healthy balance of software and hardware.
@Daniel main downside of android tablets. I bought one sorely for entertainment and media consumption. However, i must say that some of the apps that i am using like whatsapp and discord now have tablet UI. I was kinda impressed tbh since these apps are really popular. Just hoping that other developers follow. Apps like goodnotes is also available in android( still in beta). All of these kinda gives me hope that the android os situation will improve in time.
Lets just hope these companies don't stop producing tablets
Have the s8 and love it. Wish I could do coding on it. 0:55
@@user-qf2ln6yz6n I truly dont understand the roar about android tablets and it not having enough "apps" I mean if you compare the pros with the cons, the apps just seem so little of an issue to me personally, due to its immense functionality and the tablet experience optimised UI you can never go wrong with the tablet, although I must say the user above said the tablet has "an incredible" battery life, I dont know what they mean by that, I have the same tablet and the biggest downside I face is the battery life tbh and the ecosystem, and I dont blame you if that is your deciding factor between an Ipad and the samsung tab bec I'd understand, but complaining ab the apps i dont really know ab that
Thanks for the great video! Do you know how it is formatted? I would like to know if it's ex-FAT. Only ex-FAT allow video files larger than 4 GB to be put on the tablet. Thank you!
The best Android tablet I've ever owned is actually a Chromebook - the OG Lenovo Duet. 8 years of updates (you'll be lucky to see 2-3 on an *actual* Android tablet), solid hardware - the 1200p screen is still a highlight, and full access to the Play Store. Worth a thought if you're in the market for something like this.
I bought my Samsung Tab S8 Ultra 3 months after the release and it was selling for $2700 ( inclusive of tax maxed out). However I found someone who bought it, opened it and didn't like it so sold it to me for literally half the price and I love it more than my Pad Pro even though I am an Apple Guy with everything Apple. The point I want to make is that it is about the "Value" you get out of your device or gadget against the "amount you paid for" it. So far, S8 Ultra is my go to Tab as my daily driver, for learning and
and for doing a lot of stuff which Apple still cant do or at least cant do better.
Apple's iPad is superior in terms of App support, but honestly apart from that Samsung catches up on even surpasses.
@Tan Jun Huan An product beats a non Apple product when it comes to Apple supported apps... interesting
honestly a product like this is meant for people (like myself) who aren't in the least bit interested in the Apple eco system and just want a tablet that's decent with a user experience they're more familiar with. I think its a tall ask for a product like this to convince people to move away from a device that specifically has features they want while offering none of those features for itself. I'd be interested to see the uptake on products like this outside of the US. Where I live in the UK I know literally nobody with Apple devices save for MAYBE a few with ipads... and those people while they like the tablet, don't love the user experience. I personally tabletwise am still rockin a Galaxy Tab S6 Lite that I picked up during the pandemic and for me, it still ticks all the boxes I need it to just fine.
So go for huawei or Samsung then
@@ko-Daegu As I stated, I did go for a Samsung and am very happy with it. This isn't intended as a slight against people who enjoy Apple devices. If you do, then I'm glad you've got a device you enjoy. This was just a commentary on the idea that the reviewed tablet could potentially tempt people away from iPad ownership. I don't think that it would. People enjoy their iPads and that's more than ok.
This is probably a hot take but I think Android phone users are better off with an iPad than an Android tablet
Idk where you live in the UK, but where I live there are very few people with android phones. If you look up smartphone market share as well, apple is miles ahead of everyone else...
Amen. Trust me, after years of using Android devices, both phones and tablets, currently the Samsung Galaxy Tab S7+ and Google Pixel 6 Pro, you can live a very good life without using an Apple mobile device. And I live in the US where the iPhone is king. In my opinion, Android is just a better experience.
Ahh yess, its been a while since we heard the OG advice about not buying devices based on software promises😅
Its always a cool thing to hear you say it and its also great advice
Oh yeah, that's pretty appealing! I do wonder if there are any decent pressure sensitive photo editing apps for Android? Haven't had a setup like that so not sure.
The thing is Apple World only exists in the US and some few countries, rest of the world rather have affordable android tablets/phones. Because we see our favorite tech youtubers use apple products, it doesn't mean we have to.
You are preaching in a comment section from a video that’s from the US. Maybe find content creators that are in your area 🤷♂️
Yes
@@bear2507 I am not criticizing Marques or anyone with apple products, I know they are good, I am only saying what I am seeing from the reviews. Maybe that sounded mean, sorry.
@@bear2507 lol, America moment
Nope. That’s like saying “Yeah BMW and Mercedes are nice, but the rest of the world would rather have affordable Toyotas.”
They would “rather have” affordable Android tablets only because they couldn’t easily afford iPads. If those countries had the same buying power as the West, a huge majority of them would be buying iPads/iPhones.
It's not trying to be killer, it's just finally a decent android alternative. That's all it's aiming to be
Edit: I make a random comment and of course it's a hit tweet. Ughh. Pls don't take this that seriously, and sorry Marques if this seemed critical, enjoyed the video and appreciate your opinions as always, just kinda disagreed with the title, but the clickbait rocked because it definitely got engagement from me. Hoping to get this tablet later this year, thanks for bringing it to our attention.
Including "iPad Killer" makes for a more attractive title.
It’s a little cute reference to OnePlus’ old motto of being the “flagship killer”, it’s also why he says “settled” the way he does here 0:25 - another reference to OnePlus’ “never settle” branding
Bro, let me be honest, if you are a buying an Android table in 2023 you are either A) Poor B) A Boomer C) A weirdo.
Nobody normal willingly buys Android tablets in 2023 LMAO.
@@pepesilvia4564 i do
1. im a "competitive" gamer where it makes a difference between 120hz and 144hz
2. bcs i flash custom roms and stuff
3. reasonable pricing
@@niveZz- "Competitive gamer" on a tablet
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i think one big thing you missed is while the andriod os does not support apps like facetime imessage air drop etc, you can side load things that could never be on a normal ios / ipad os device like console emulators, modifide yt clients old games like angry birds a linux emulator and probably more in the future
got both the samsung and the ipad and both are fine. i use them to paint - i am more used to the ipad, so use that normally, but the samsung works just as well. if you live in the apple ecosystem, then you will miss stuff with samsung, but ditto if you are into google/android. should be interesting to see how the newby does. i would definitely buy it….thanks for the savvy review!
The problem is that tables are totally optional and usage time is very limited. So people don't want to get used to a different os or bother manually syncing everything. I've been having a iPad for years and barely use it.
This will be a hot take I actually like a little bezel on tablets at least on the sides so you have somewhere to hold it without touching the touch screen.
Saame
not a hot take at all lol .
Everyone likes that, yes. That's.. the reason they have bezels
That’s not a “hot take” that’s common sense
@@SSADO-unfortunately there’s a lot of people who prefer little to no bezel. Lots of Apple fanboys have made fun of the bezel. I for one love a little bezel and it make sense like you said, but a lot of people don’t share that same sentiment.
I think the worst thing about android tablets (i own a samsung s7) is the lack of a "one drawing app to rule them all" like what apple has. I have four drawing apps to even come close to copying some features of procreate.
And even those apps are nerfed or way behind what they offer on the i pad like tayasui sketch. Its missing on android about 20% of the tools they offer on the ipad
Hi Marques, thanks for the details. One question - How is this for digital Artist ?
Is oneplus stylus and screen provides nearly same experience as that we get on ipad? Can digital artists consider this as main purpose of drawing on it?
I would suggest u to buy a drawing pad instead of Ipad or this. those had lots of features and main focused are drawing
Great video, Marques. As always, your attention to detail and insightful analysis shine through. Keep up the fantastic work!
I have a tab s8+ and really like it ! Coming from an ipad air design refresh
so far samsung is the only company that can compete with ipad
4:54 dont you mean “one plussing the ipad” 😂
Some things you really can't fault for being similar--how many different ways can you make a pencil?
Waiting with impatience the version 14 inch without any camera on the back!!
At least they learned from the mistake of all other android tablets and used the 4:3 ratio.
I wasnt expecting much but this actually makes me want one! Looks great!
what looks great??
@@asianwhite1496 I would…..
@@asianwhite1496 my man, you escalated quickly. the tablet looks trash
@@vedrans.2249 Youre kidding, right? It beats the apple tablet in almost every way. Every way that matters, that is. Faster charging, better aspect ratio, faster refresh, practicality at its finest.
@@vedrans.2249 How so?
Could you please elaborate on those "not optimized " apps 😀 serialsly im using ipad and samsung s8ultra on daily bases.. but dont see any issues with android apps
Orderd 5 of these tablets. You said its good and I trust you
You couldn't pay me enough to own another Apple product
Me personally I like apple I like it simple and it just works that’s it no tuning all the apple products work together
Marques! Any chance of you doing a Lasik surgery update video sometime...? Even a YT short...?
One of the most important things which a lot of people overlook about Apple and Samsung is the availability of these devices, it often doesn't help how great a device is if you can't find it. And then that leads to those rare to find products losing mind share.
So idk but I'm on a Pixel 7 and while watching zoomed in the cylindrical door handle from the door behind Mr. Brownlee in the main shot almost perfectly mimics the nav bar that is usually at the bottom.
Bought one plus pad and it just rocks. Cant find better at this price
I kind of feel the same way: I can't see myself using any other tablet than an iPad. That being said, to me, the iPad is mostly a "streaming machine". I do not use it for much else. I am interested in the upcoming Pixel tablet, at least to see what, seems like, Google's new tablet adventure is going to be. Still, I am not sure. Android tablets just have a bad track record when it comes to stability and usability. At least the ones I've tried.
>That being said, to me, the iPad is mostly a "streaming machine".
So... this, a samsung or pixel tablet would work just fine then...
@@Sonyboj Yeah, it would. With the iPad though, I avoid several Android problems like not getting OS updates after a few years etc. My current iPad from 2014 still receives updates.
@@stormbowman7148 Yes, my 2.5-year-old Tab S7+ will not get any more Android or OneUI updates and it cost me £1000! A tablet could easily last 6-8 years so Apple giving 6+ years of updates is a massive positive. The Pixel Tablet will only get effectively two updates as within 1-2 months it will update to Android 14 and will then get 15 and 16.
@@andyH_England So what if your tablet does not run on Android 14. It will work for you at least for the next 3-4 years if you take care of it. Until then, the hardware on your tablet will be slow and unusable. You can't make a girl out of a grandmother.
I love any non-apple tablet that comes out. My problem is that I really want a tablet, but can't think of any reasons why I'd Need one. Their use case is still a bit too niche for me to justify the price.
As a student i couldn’t afford a iPad latest gen hence got myself a iPad Pro 10.5(2017) and still does an awesome job. Coming from the perspective of an android user, it is an awesome app ecosystem tailored specifically for specific needs. I previously used android tablets and none of them can come close to iPad. I’m confident that none of them can make a dent into iPad market. May be Samsung, Mi and Oneplus should come up with some common standard and specific set of apps which should mimic Apple. This would make significant impact on pulling Apple users.
Also another important part to mention, is that android tablets are generally speaking held to a much higher standard than apple ones simply due to you do way more stuff on android than on anything thats apple. If you were to use them for the exact same things than it would be a no contest and apple would loose on all metrics with all of their products unless they would cut down their price by atleast 25 to 50% since they are insanely overpriced.
One of the niche benefits I would get from an android tablet, is that I do game development as a hobby. I've made a few android games in the past, and testing on something like this would be really fun. I mostly make a bunch of prototypes that I like to show my friends and family. I rarely develop something I push to an App store. Something like this with a larger screen would be great for showing these hobby projects off. I have an ipad, but I haven't tried developing much for iOS due to a few of the barriers and licenses involved with that process. I know it's plenty achievable to develop for the ipad if I were to give it a shot, I just find sideloading apps on android to be easier, which lends itself better to my lazy hobbyist approach.
If you don’t mind me asking, do you use software to create the apps or games? If so what?
@@trialbyfire4188 I usually use Unity for my quick projects.
Usually they just consist of me wondering how to program something, working on it until it works, then moving onto another project.
I've uploaded a few videos of my projects if you're interested. They're just basic screen recordings
The Samsung Galaxy Tab A8 is $240 (half the price of the tablet in this vide) and has a 10.5" screen.. while not the 11.5" of this one.. it's still a nice size and I've used it for showing off Android apps made in Unity.
@@LinuxBacon I've been wanting to get into game development and design as a hobby. How did you first start out, and know which resources to learn and use?
@@OfficialZh0 I found that Unity had a reasonable amount of tutorials and that helped give me the foundation to expand from there. I started by making a ball bounce off of the ground, then made a box go left and right with arrow keys, eventually I had enough basal knowledge of Unity that I could adapt other people's code and designs. That practice eventually led to me being able to create completely original projects.
Of the projects that I've made that I'm proud of, there's a long line of silly simple (even boring) projects that led me there.
MB, we do a bit of back county driving/RVing, and it would be nice to see a review on tablets with built in GPS and how they work with current b 4:03 backcountry software.
Almost all tablets have 'GPS' chips. The mapping software is what's important. I live in UK and use Ordnance Survey maps on my phone/tablet. Am sure there are specialist sites reviewing maps suitable for your location.
@@dudmanjohn Good Morning John, I have not found that too be the case in the US. There are some TH-cam videos on the subject and how to find a tablet that works off-grid (no cell service) with apps like x-map.
Marques, thank you for making high quality content. Please don't go in Lew's direction where is content just went from good to bad to worse.
You're always on point, giving all the info we need, not full of sponsors and ads, not cutting your vid every 2 sec because you can't talk like all the young "youtubers" these days.
Good luck, and stay great!
Didnt know that one yet. As of today, we have a lot of the cheaper (~150€) Samsung A series around here in Germany.
Thanks for the objective video!
I would love to see a video comparing the current gen of Android tablets, especially considering the Pixel Tablet has joined the fray.
Tablets are worthless
@@brandonchutt312 nobody asked about your opinion
@@brandonchutt312 I think the iPad and Android sales would state otherwise. My air 5 is used for on the go photo editing and photo dumping.
That would be an awesome idea!
I'm so interested in this tablet. The price point is great, and I just need something bigger than my phone but smaller than a laptop for when I'm lounging on my bed or couch. That being said, I'm gonna wait for this fall, when OnePlus might just announce a foldable phone. That will really be the deciding factor for me.
Foldable phones are too chunky.
@@djayjp I can deal with the chunkiness. I'd prefer an all in one device
Not worth it yet; I’ve owned three foldables before giving up on the Fold 4. Someone said it best, it’s just an expensive phone with a party trick and very mid-specs and camera
@@catboy3471 ok buddy
You're ready to spend on a brand of tablet who is worth Nothing? Terrible support and terrible brand. Why not try Microsoft or Samsung tablet offerings (They are real brands)? Throw your money there instead of this substandard product from an imposter/fake/illusional "brand".
I’m an android lover since the nexus times.. and I do recall when the nexus tablet came out and died because of software updates.. I think generally speaking that will always be an issue.. even now with google pixel, which is what I use. I can’t image them doing updates for 5 yrs.
At the same time iPads have software updates until they permanently turn off or break. I owe the first iPad Air and still gets updates and the only time it runs slow is with multitasking and watching lots of videos. Mind you I’ve owned variants of 3 iPad pros and 3 other iPads. Now with the my iPad Pro, I enjoy using USB C on all devices. I’m willing to try and test but the switch might be hard.
The thing is.. tablets as a whole are kinda niche in a sense of the things u can do on them, sure graphic designers and all kinds of graphic illustrators can have fun with them, but as a whole for most people they're just a media consumption device, I rarely use my iPad and if so it's mainly to watch TH-cam, read or as a second monitor for my macbook
IMO the screen ratio is a huge part of what has always set iPads apart. Widescreen makes sense for a desktop monitor, it makes sense for a laptop even. It makes no sense on a handheld device. Steve jobs had it right way back with the first iPad, “feels like reading a magazine” was and still should be the goal for a handheld large screen media consumption device like this
Even modern iPads have strayed from this and are worse off for it IMO.
I remember there were a few Samsung tabs with the right screen ratio - I wasn’t looking to upgrade at the time but I remember thinking that’s what I’d get when upgrade time came. Alas, they stopped making them
I don't disagree with you. Sometimes using my Galaxy Tab S7+ vertically for websites is a bit too long. When reading manga, it's amazing and the aspect ratio is even better when watching a movie with less black bars on most of the media I watch.
Tbf the 7:5 ratio of this tablet is near as spot on to a piece of paper.
I'd love to hear more about the pen performance and if there is a solid alternative to Procreate. I'm in a Windows/Samsung home and we are not fond of Apple products. Had a very old school iPad years ago that never felt great (iOS compared to Android) and it just collected dust. We have been thinking about getting a tablet again but all we want it for is art, and we are afraid we'd be forced to go with an iPad pro for best results.
Infinite painter is worth checking out. From what I've seen, it has a lot of the same features procreate offers. Same price for full version too
@@johnmisley5411 Any Goodnotes alternative? Did you try note taking with the pen?
@@nagsentorne Goodnotes now in beta for both Android and Windows. You need a Samsung Tablet with an 8 inch screen for the Android Version though.
@@eulehund99 OMG THATS AMAZING TO HEAR!!! I switched from iPad to S7fe and I deeply miss good notes, it is better than anything android has to offer, that makes me so happy
Hipaint is basically procreate for android, amazing app and improves every update
6:30 highkey loving this animation
Would this thing be decent for a student? I have a full desktop PC at home, but I need something for on the go that I can take notes with and do some light work with. I'm also planning on using it for work where it would be handy to have a tablet on the fly when working with clients. I currently have a chromebook which I love because it's small and minimal and does everything I need of it. Only problem is that it's getting old and slooooooow so I'm looking to replace it.
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Used to own Xiaomi Pad 5 (pretty powerful tablet at that time with SD870). It was a good Android tablet but almost all Android apps are made for smartphone because app scaling on landscape mode only took 1/3 of the display and the rest is blank. The only apps I tried that had tablet UI was VLC and Chrome. Not going back to Android tablet until Google are forcing devs to include tablet UI on every apps
Yup, that's what happens. You get a top of the line Android tablet with all the fixings only to find out the app market is dry. I blame Android foundation. They said it's perfectly fine to put upsized phone apps on a tablet whereas apple refused to allow that.
You should try Samsung tab S then. As an ipad user, i can say samsung tab s is much better with real multitasking, gesture, and the screen is fantastic
Good comment thanks for letting me know, I will switch to apple if side loading works out well and emulation applications get developed for iOS
@@svenwort2055 iOS has had emulation and side loading for decades
@@alainchristian all right american boy
I might consider this because I always wish there was more competition to the Ipad in the tablet world.
Also what was that one thing they had at CES it was like a tablet that you put your phone into to use your phone for the processing and just displays your phone on a larger tablet. I don't think it ever made it to market because I don't know if there is a way to use a second touch screen as the input.
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Just look up "portable touch screen monitor" you will see all sorts of devices like that.
I bought the Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, and I haven't used my laptop since. It does pretty much all of the things I used to do on my laptop.
I feel like most people who use tablets don't really care about the apps, they just use a web browser, email, video calls, news apps, youtube, netflix, etc. The exception would be kids who play games but there's no shortage of those on Android. I rarely see people with more than a page or two of apps on their home screens on any brand of tablet
If its pen is good for drawing then i think its pretty good.
Ipads are very expensive now and a lot of students/artists are searching for a good cheap alternative cuz outside of US not a lot of people really care about iMessage etc
Interesting Android tablet!
Side note - The notes icon on the OnePlus Pad looks eerily similar to the icon of Pages (Apple’s word processing app). Coincidence? I think not 🤔
Who else is watching this from an iPad 😂
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I use S22 Ultra and iPad Air, best of both worlds. Apps seem so much better on the iPad and the pencil 2 was just better when I bought the Air compared to the competition. I want to switch to Android on my tablet but the A14 SoC just keeps up so good and I get updates regularly.
Interesting tablet! Might actually get an android tablet when it hits the second hand market.
It's like you said. People are just stuck on the iPad. I'm not an Apple person. Never have & never will be. I feel my Samsung 8 Ultra tablet beats the iPad and this one plus tablet. I'm still 100% satisfied with my Samsung tablet, which has no issues for what i use it for and that is everything. Great video. You are always 100% honest in your reviews.
Samsung dex on the tablets alone makes the samsung tablets the better choice and im not a tablet user 😂
@kdubspencer3390 The funny thing is, I've never used DEX.
i laughed when he said "with a charger thats included in the box" with a very straight tone. Bro...how do you do that?
Great review, thanks again! I believe that many higher-end Android tablets can give iPads a run for their money. For instance, I recently switched to the Xiaomi 6 Tablet, which has some impressive specs: 8GB RAM, 256GB storage, a stunning 2880x1800 display with 309ppi, Dolby Vision, 4 speakers with Dolby Atmos, a blue light filter, a smooth 144Hz refresh rate, an 8400mAh battery, and a fast 33W charger. Plus, you can get a pen and keyboard for it. I sold my iPad Mini 6 because its battery life had dropped significantly after 2 years, but I still have my iPad Air.( Xiaomi pad Usd 310 , Sold iPad mini for 345 Usd ) When I compare it to the Xiaomi 6, which offers a fantastic display and spatial sound for Netflix, it's clear that Xiaomi's product is a great choice. Dolby Vision is another standout feature. Compared to the iPad Mini 6, it's a no-brainer.
It seems like Apple's ecosystem is starting to show signs of decline, with fewer new innovations. I noticed they mentioned you on September 12th without your knowledge or consent - it's quite absurd, given Apple's reputation.
mi 6 tablet global version or global rom?
@@ryanllts I got the global version so no Chinese stuff , been 4 months really happy with it , except the charger doesn't work , tried to change they requested the pad as well as the charger so I left it . pad 6 is great.
@@nadirolgacay582 where did u bought it？ I found 3 sellers on Amazon but can't figure out which seller is selling global version. I would like to avoid those flashing global rom version.
The color of this thing is what made me want to get it. I've both iPads and Galaxy tablets. Right now i have the s8 ultra. The thing that makes the optimization bareable is dex. I prefer the iPad but i wanted the bigger screen and it came with the s pen already, not too mention the keyboard case came free when i bought it. I don't like the wide keyboard on the iPad and enjoy the floating keyboard on a tablet
I've been using my Samsung galaxy tab s7 for work since 2020 and became my main device since my laptop broke in 2021. And I must say that even though Android tablets would probably never be as fast and smooth as iPads anytime soon, but what it lacks in those areas, Samsung's currnet tablets are surely functional. They've been consistently updating it and I'm getting even more functionalities and capabilities years after I first got my tablet.
I've tried using iPad before and yes, it's probably still the best tablet out there. But as an Android user, I appreciate the way Samsung has integrated a lot of their own UI into the Android tablet. And as a person who actually got stuck using a tablet as my main working device, I know how much capabilities and potential Android tablets have and can have.
My point is, not becauae iPad is "the best" tablet doesn't mean that Android tablets are not worth the buy. Because if you're an Android user and is more used to and prefer Android OS, now is actually a good time to purchase an Android tablet instead of an iPad. And really the only way to know that Android tablets are good or not is to actually just use it. Not just in a week or a month to review the item, but actively and actually using it to work.
Check android's Tab S8 Ultra and tell me if you still think samsung tablets are inferior to apple's. The thing is a beast
@@matheus_brunelli don't have the money to do that. lol If I could have a Tab S8, that'd be awesome. 🤣
I don't think Samsung tablets are inferior in its totality. It's just a general concensus that iPads are "the best" tablets out there. 😅
@@matheus_brunelli s8 ultra is a beast but an impractical one
I’d rather get the S8+
And in my opinion apart from games, iPads real advantage is only thru apps like the ones in the top 200 or top 250 list on apple’s app store. And ones those apps get ported to android properly and without any major bugs, the question of questionable app support in android tablets will be gone
Like for example developers using flutter will probably be able to use the cross platform advantage to improve the android user experience
Like notability, goodnotes, pro create, luma fusion, stock trading apps, maybe some music production apps, etc
As an ipad pro user (11inch base model with m1) i get why people stick to ipads, its kinda along similar lines as windows/macOS vs linux, android is great but the fragmentation hurts it in ways that are complicated to counter. It’s a shame that even after 10-11 yrs android tablet is still significantly behind iPadOS in terms of overall feature set.
Plus you gotta remember iPads last longer since they have better software support
I have been using my tab s7 since 2020 myself because my desktop caught fire last year. I am very happy with it because I'm able to do everything I need on this little guy and more.
@@matheus_brunelli it's not about the raw power. It's about what you can do. And let's face it iPads apps are better suited for tablet then android one. Of course you can do more on android and it it should replace your desktop then it is probably better to have android
I recently got a used iPad Air 3 for £150. The design is a bit dated now but for the money it makes a fantastic budget tablet today. Still runs the latest iPadOS and all of its features.
I only ever had a work iPad at an old workplace. Hated the thing. Wanted a tablet for at home use for so long though. I love my OnePlus Nord phone. Definitely want this tablet now.
What happens when you plug it into an external display? The iPad Air will give you a separate workspace and take up the full screen for instance.
I wanted to switch from an iPad to a Galaxy Tab but I couldn't get the biggest screen Tab and still have 5G. Pretty much stuck with iPad at this point but the newest Pro model is very nice.
I saw this video and went bought this tablet. I gotta say I love it as I'm immersed in Android ecosystem. My only complaint is that 128 gb memory is a bit light in 2023 for this type of a device. I wonder if anyone else who owns this feel the same.
The selfie video shot looked actually better than the regular cam you used to shoot the video.
I'm waiting for galaxy tab s9, but their wide aspect ratio is making me question if I should go with this one instead, especially for mainly manga reading..
I watched this whole video on my iPad and you definitely didn’t convince me to switch over. I’m happy with my M1 iPad Pro.
That intro was so damn smooth omfg
As an artist and an Apple scrooge, this nails my niche. I hate my ipad, but it's simply the best option as a creative. I hope they further optimize procreate clones and brightness! I'm in the market. I'm certain many of my peers are as well.
What makes ipad the best for creative users over android products?
@@InnerCityX Procreate. It's not on Android and it's indispensable for me for artwork and creating. If it came to Android I'd swap.
I hate the little peeves of Apple. Like saving a transparent .png file from Procreate, editing in Photos, and it adds a white background. They also Airdrop as jpgs once you've edited in Photos, not .png.Backing your work up to the cloud, transparent works get a white background, again. Sometimes right away, sometimes a few days later. I have to Airdrop my transparent pngs directly from Procreate to my MacBook, and plug in via USB C to transfer any I have adjusted in the Photos app. There were a few more peeves, but I think I am used to them and can't remember them as I do the work-arounds as a matter of course.
Android tablets are becoming so much better these days .
Not enough to take Apples Market Share
While they continue to have a steadier price, and I use Apple products
How are we defining quality?
Yes and no. They are still kinda clunky and app support isn’t as great. Media consumption is great, I just wouldn’t recommend as work/productivity device. Speaking as a Tab S7 + owner.
@@John_R_Jackson_IIIcan never customize an ipad
I love Samsung tablets. I'm on my third one now. Waiting on the Tab S9 hopefully this summer.
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You sir, are a treasure. Thank you for this awesome review!
Request>> Do a video on if Computers are relevent vs ipad, Samsung Pad's, Smart Phones. Its been a topic Ive thought a lot on lately. Often times when I open up my laptop it feels unneccessary like can do this way faster on my smart phone and typing is easier. I feel like this would be a topic that would draw in a lot of interest from viewers
I think you said the keyword towards the end of this video... This tablet is now something to "consider" when looking into buy a tablet or iPad. And I think that is a statement that we can look forward to more in the future I hope. We need the competition.
I had to unsubscribe to him because at one point it was clear he was either being paid to promote Apple or trying to keep a good connection with them.
I have resubscribed to him after this video, he is finally being fair.
Personally I believe TABLETS should have high end cameras ! Why? Because TABS have way more larger display, if you can get high end quality photos, you'll be able to do rest of the things such as editing sharing and even just viewing (just like Google Nest Hub) Things will be pretty cool!
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I'm in the iOS/Apple ecosystem, but also use many Android and Windows devices in our home. I like my M1 Mac, but prefer Windows for work and Android for my mobile phone and tablet - Google has been pretty solid and generous with free storage - kids happily using Chromebook as well so it all seems to work quite well. Probably sticking with our Samsung tablet which has been absolutely flawless for school and personal media consumption..
I absolutely love goodnotes 5 but sadly enough it only works on Apple devices. I saw that they're working on making the app compatible with windows and android so until that day comes, I'm not switching, no matter what hardware the windows/android tablet has