Son Vanishes After Discovering a Horrifying Secret in the National Park
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National park mysteries are always scarier, something about the deep woods and forests. Here are a number of cases set in the woods regarding missing people. All terrifying but in their own way, and all set in national parks.
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Missing 411 stories zzzz. I'm all for the shorter stories mixed together but please don't go down this rabbit hole.
I had heard the first story before and it still frustrates me to hear how so many adults botched watching a 3 year old. You dont just let a 3 year old run wild into the woods!
Exactly! Why wasn’t anyone in the group responsible enough to keep an eye on him!?!
@@MsLucyJayne - Not very Christian like!
Parents should be held responsible in such parental neglect cases
@@NYLily07disgusting comment
that haunted me for a while it got me so mad about that pathetic group RIP
That’s crazy to me that the fishermen didn’t wait with Jared until the group caught up. The kid was 3, seems like a lot of dumb adults in that story.
The fishermen seem sus to me.
They all are evil.Who loses a 3yr old...
@@AB-un4iome too. That’s what I commented. They should have asked people on the path the fishermen “Claimed” to go down if they had seen two fishermen. If not then I reckon those two took Jared and murdered him and what not. 😢😢
Those "Christians" weren't very responsible. Who lets a young child wander off ahead of them?
I mean, really…How could you look at that face and let him go off without knowing he had someone’s hand. 😢😢😢😢 That little face is going to haunt me, now. No person of any moral worth would leave a child THAT young
A 3 year old is a baby. A toddler. A small child that needs constant adult supervision. Whichever adults agreed to let him go should have kept him with them at all times. Poor little kid.
100 percent correct. If your more interested into national park disappearances. follow .. DAVID PALIDES...By far the most educated when speaking these topics. The national parks in not only the States, but Canada as well do not keep records on missing persons.
Paulides leaves you with the facts and allows you to come to your own opinions.
What kind of idiots take a kid EIGHTEEN MILES AWAY without letting his dad know their plans have changed?! They’re all somewhat responsible in my eyes. Jared’s dad almost definitely wouldn’t have let him go if he knew where they decided to go.
His parents are responsible for him, no one else. People who don't have kids do so for a reason. When I'm in the woods, my concern is my dog. And that's my choice.
If you can't take care of a child, don't have one.
@@bethstaley467 True, But the adults who took them with him, They were responsible for the child. There is an understanding that when you take a kid with you, you are watching them (unless the parents are there). The adults NEEDED to keep him with them, they failed.
@@bethstaley467I can see your perspective on it, and in a way, you do make a good point. HOWEVER, realistically, that's not how things work. As a parent, when you entrust your child to another adult, for any reason, then that adult accepts full responsibility for the safety and well-being of the child, as if it were the adult's own child. Should anything happen to the child while in the custody and care of an adult, then that adult is completely responsible, and can be held liable for it.
@@bethstaley467 your diatribe makes no sense.
The adults he was allowed to go with took responsibility. THEY walked off with the child, saying it would be down the street and back. They don't have to be a parent to be held responsible for children THEY voluntarily take responsibility for.
Chill bro, no one is trying to child bait you or force you to watch their children while you are off in the woods with your dog.
@@OrnamentalPlague You're debating someone with sociopathic tendencies. Anyone whose reaction to a lost child in the woods is, "Screw you for choosing the wrong parents. I'm just concerned about my dog" isn't a person operating on a moral plane.
What two grown ass men would leave a 3-year-old, all alone waiting for others to come? That doesn't even make common sense.
The fisherman seems fishy, alright! 😂 But, really creepy that they’re talking to him and then just let him go on alone? I think they may have had something more to do with his disappearance.
Two grown ass men that are sus AF.
yes, could they have handed him over to someone?
Sounds like they had fish to catch and didn’t want to bother babysitting a random kid. Nothing suspect about that.
That was the 90’s, the tail end of letting kids run around unsupervised and before helicopter parenting became so common. So them leaving him on the trail so they could get on with their fishing trip would have been completely normal.
They probably kidnapped him. Traffickers?
13 adults total and not one of them knew to keep a 3 year old with them? And the 11 adults whisked the kids to a completely different location without letting the father know? What the hell?
It's basically like when an emergency happens around a bunch of strangers (Bystander Effect), someone NEEDS to be told to call 911, else it's just assumed. Most likely what happened to poor little Jared. Plus the Mingling Christian distraction of it.
Yup. I’m thinking that 13 adults means the kid was even less likely to be watched than if there had been just 2 adults. With 13, everyone can think “someone else is watching him.”
I literally cannot wrap my head around just taking those two kids off 18 miles away for a hike in the woods without their dad knowing - that is beyond unacceptable. Then they don't know not to let a 3-year-old run ahead of them where they can't see him? Beyond comprehension what these adults thought would be okay.
P Doze?
@@ProbabilityOverdrive Exactly
20:45 I grew up playing in the woods and mountains. We had a friend who always wore sweatpants and a hoodie, and would always snag them and complain about the rips. One day he was trying to slide down a mountain, but a branch snagged one of his pants ankles, causing him to timble and removing his pants, flipping them inside out.
Great point
Yup.. it’s definitely possible for this to happen. That kid was only three too
Thats a possibility for the pants but the skull cap and the shoes being in great condition is not normal.
@@malaxmels4929 My husband has a pair of crocs he uses when he cuts the grass. They stay on a patio stone outside of the shed and he only puts them on for yard work. They've been there year round for 11yrs. Our winters last about 5mos, lots of snow. Those shoes look perfectly fine.
As a father (or just a regular ole citizen), if I came across a young child all alone in the woods but could hear a hiking group within 100 yards... I WOULD TAKE THAT KID TO THE TO THE FREAKIN GROUP!!!! NEVER would I leave a young child all alone
So many adults let that poor little child down!! I would immediately start looking for adults if I encountered a lone 3 year old! Sorry to say, most of the adults in this story are men!! The protective instinct isn’t developed!!!
Proof?
@Dr. Jurden- Of what?
As soon as you said "put that in your pipe and smoke it" I immediately glanced over at my pipe and was like... I don't have work for 3 hours... sure lol
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way ahead of you.
I always get blunted before I watch a Mike video!
@@jaysonchrzanowski9230 It's fun, isn't it?! lol
@@user-wm3bf7pi3u Cheers yo
How does a group entrusted with two kids under 10 just unilaterally change their plans? This man is trusting you with his kids and you don't keep to the plan of just going 2 miles?? Even if the kids say "yaay, let's go!", adults didn't think????? What a nightmare! If I were a single parent looking for love, I wouldn't be checking them out.
As for hearing a sound that didn't sound like danger, how naive can you be? I live behind an elementary school. Kids sound like they're being murdered when they're having fun, how many videos have I seen where an unidentified noise is coming from the wood? What sound does a tiny child make being caught by a mountain lion or bear? Unless you have eyes on the kid or holding on to them. kids disappear. Jeez, I'm angry at these selfish, ignorant idiots.
Exactly! The stupidity is astounding!
Even that short walk is too much to expect of a three year old. Is somebody prepared to carry him if he gets tired?
Also, how did a 3 yr old walk faster than their adult companions? Like, he's 3 yrs old. You should be able to keep up. WTF?
@@SamBarge1or snatch him up and put him on your shoulders since he’s moving faster than the group. All of these adults are morons.
How about don’t entrust other adults with your kids period .
Jarods case reminds me of the case of Dennis Martin in 1969. He was camping with his family in the Great Smoky Mountains National Park in TN. He was playing hide and seek with other children at the campsite and hid behind a bush and was literally never seen again. Both stories are absolutely heartbreaking.
Mine too! 👍🏻
Tragic story!
Things to maybe consider:
-3yr olds wear clothes inside out often
-Colorado winters would preserve the shoes for months at a time
-Mountain lions are mostly likely to go for the smallest and weakest member of a group
If it was in that particular spot in the photo, and I do think I remember it was at the top of a boulder field, it's possible a small slide happened and he was crushed with his shoes happening to be in an air pocket to stop them from creasing the rubber soles. Some homeless person or other hiker comes across them and lays them out to be seen, but doesn't want any of the attention for whatever reason.
Also I think it was on the south side of the river, so it would be cool and likely have snow 8 or 9 months a year to help preserve clothing under a small rock slide.
When I was 8 years old I got lost in the Ozarks while on a Boy Scout camping trip. I was walking back from a spring we had been swimming in, the older kid who was supposed to be my “buddy” ran ahead and I wandered off the trail without realizing it. I was lost for about 4-5 hours, before finding a dried riverbed and following it and eventually finding a campground with people. It was one of the most terrifying experiences of my life, but humbling as well, as we are always at the mercy of the vastness and unpredictability of this planet.
Glad you made it out of that scary situation! I would have shit my pants and died on the spot
Amen you can tell that story!!! Smart young man. Glad you made it home.
Wow! That’s scary. You had some awesome problem solving skills.
Bet those Boy Scout skills came in full force! Good on you, that’s quite a tale to tell, and still have such a huge respect for nature afterwards
@@wagashiI’d go much the same lol, if only IBS stood for “Intelligent Boy Scout”
So weird. I would never leave a child who was alone anywhere! What the heck were those men thinking? Poor baby! The father must have lost his mind!
My 25 birthday....
same. and if they heard people in the background, why not wait with the little boy until they reach you? just doesn’t make sense
Well, the 3 year old shouldn't have even gone on this hike with a bunch of single ppl. Obviously, those ppl weren't there to watch a child (seeing that they lost him). Never would I had let my children go into the woods with anyone. Parents fault 100%
@@deefaison3730 Well 2 miles to the fish hatchery, which was familiar is ALOT different than 18 miles up the mountain. But yes I never would have let my 3 yo old go.
He did, his interviews are SAD
Niney-nine percent of the comments are about Jaryd, but I'd like to make mention of what incredible women Stephanie and Geraldina both were. How sad, what happened to each of them.
I hope their family and friends found peace.
Oceans and Forests feel the same to me, vast, never ending and mysterious. As well as terrifying because of darkness and it being very easy to get lost in. They are all-consuming.
People hear "Christian" and think that person can be trusted. Which is exactly why sociopaths and monsters claim they're Christian. I never let my children go anywhere until they were able to talk full sentences and knew more about "right vs wrong"
However, I don't blame the father at all. He trusted a group of adults to be able to watch 1 child. Poor Alan.
They might think that but just because someone claims to be religious doesn't mean they wouldn't do something awful.
As soon as I hear "Christian" I automatically know they can't be trusted.
100% ! Religion is often used by predators as a cover. Both traditional religions and 'new age'.
The more devout someone is to God, the more sins they are trying to pray away.
Look at Latter Day Saints aka Mormons; I think about 25% os true crime cases come from these people. Or a very devout Christian decides that it's better to kill their spouse than divorce them. How is that for logic.
There is much truth to your statement, which is why I am a Christian and don't go to church. Many, many monsters hiding in churches.
Jaryd's case haunts me. I can't believe the group let that sweet boy out of sight for even a second. Heartbroken for Mr. Atadero.
Right? It's an absolute nightmare.
Mountain lion pretty much confirmed I believe. Never should have been alone for sure though.
Not only the group, but if you believe the fishermen then that means two groups of adults let them out of their sight.
Though I don't really believe some of the stuff the fishermen said.
Also, I think its a bit sus with the ones who found the clothes that they just so happened to go down a trail im sure had been walked and happen to find the clothes in a way that don't add up to have been out there for 3 years?
And they just so happened to have been talking about a case tbay happened 3 years ago and hallen tk fins that same kids clothes? That seems suspicious as well imo. Especially if the thing w the clothes being in good good of shape to not been out there for 3 years.
@jimmycot1 how???? Clothes with no blood at all on them and pants inside out???
@@MissNikkiDawson
Yep! There is definitely foul play involved here! And any wild animal would never do any of those things… they just can’t, by definition!
The clothes has been put there three years later. 🤯
First Case-The two fishermen should be ashamed of themselves. Who leaves a 3 year old child lost in the woods. Absolutely ridiculous
I hope they were investigated.
Back in Girl Scouts I remember one camping trip where we all got put on lockdown because another troop came across some creepy guy on a trail (it was private land, he should not have been there).
Cops were called and idk what happened after (they of course didn’t keep us kids in the loop), but it just goes to show that there could *always* be someone lurking behind the trees when you’re out in the woods. Be careful and stay safe.
When I was 13 years old I was lost in the Idaho wilderness for days. Search and rescue had everything you can imagine looking for me. They could not find me. I walked out after 3 days. I can tell you from experience. There is a lot of places out there where they will never find you.
Wow! How did you find your way out? That had to be terrifying!!!
Oh my James! That would have been awful! Glad you’re around to tell the tale.
It always amazes me that people are shocked that they can't find a person or a body in densely forested areas or the wide open sea. I used to do mountain rescue and it's much easier to get lost than it is to get found.
@@ElSantoLuchador Years ago two little kids somehow got lost in the forest in Maine.There was a massive search and rescue effort but they never found the poor kids.Sadly,they found their bodies later on and they were only about 50-100 feet from the campground.
Happy you lived to tell others
Hey Mike, I grew up in a small town called Blythe Ca. A man named Ronnie Deere killed a man and his two daughters in revenge. the guy was crazy he was caught in the local park and he was stabbing himself before the police captured him.Deere, a Sioux and Choctaw Indian who also uses the name “Running Deere,” pleaded guilty to the first-degree murder in the killing of Donald Davis and second-degree murder in the killings of Davis’ daughters, Michelle and Melissa, in Blythe in 1982. His plea of guilty was accepted after a court-appointed psychiatrist found him mentally competent. I was wondering if maybe you could please cover that story? No one has ever covered that murder on youtube, I've looked. Thank you.
Sounds like an interesting case!! Hopefully, he sees this!!!
Thumbs up to that! Get Mike's eyeballs on this!
It's covered by several change what you type to find it.
I would love to hear the story.
The big murder story from my home town has been covered by every news station and every true crime channel for 35 years.
Jaryd's case has always bothered me since the day I heard it. Why _no one_ in that group took responsibility and looked after the _toddler_ since his dad wasn't with them, is the question that still remains with me to this day. The pain his father endured losing his son due to the incompetence of others is just unfathomable. 🕯😔
I worked two summers as a Towerman (Fire Watcher) in Alberta. I lived more than 20 kilometers from any city or town. Except when they brought my food order (by helicopter), I never saw a human being from May to September. 100 ft tower, with living quarters on ground level. I enjoyed myself immensely.
Sometimes I watch these videos just to hear the "I love ya" at the end. Mike understands that we all need to hear those words more often. Such a good guy. ❤
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It's nice, yes
@@phaedrapage4217 if you've watched him from way back, there's actually a video where tells us to he loves us for the time. He was kind of nervous saying it. Super cute.
I remember that day. Lovely parasocial relationship I've had Mike over the years. Hehe
And the eye wink...I can't LIVE without the eye wink.
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I am amazed at how many adults failed that little kid in the woods. 3 years old and you leave him alone because you hear a group one hundred yards back? That's still too young to just leave a 3 year old until you actually see the group he belongs to. Especially with predators in the forest. Then what good is a forest ranger if they see a child trying to get away from an adult and the ranger just walks away instead of investigating why the child was acting up. Maybe I am too cautious when it comes to young children but this just seemed completely insane to me.
Maybe it was the ranger....he sounds like a suspect covering his tracks...
When it comes to young children, out in the woods, there's no such thing as too cautious! Especially if they are someone else's kids who have been entrusted to you! There are so many predators, of both the 4-legged and 2-legged varieties.
I'm wondering why the "Christians" didn't tell the young boy to slow down and stick with them. Not very responsible.
Don't act like that since their Christians that played or should even be talked about as part of what happened yr letting yr biased opinion about Christians reflect on what yr opinion is when it shouldn't of been brought up but ok you hate Christians so it's part of her everyday life
my thoughts exactly would have stayed there or called out and given them a how to not be the Usain Bolt of dying
I can't believe a group of adults would just let a three-year-old child out of their sight in the middle of a forest. Was it their belief that he was old enough to take care of himself?
I believe I saw the McCann's motorhome with SUV attached parked near the highway (north side) near Edson shortly after they had disapppeared. I remember thinking to myself "what a strange place for a nice motorhome to be parked". I reported what I saw to the RCMP tip line, but they never followed up with me on it.
It's always interesting listening to someone retelling this story of Jared. His father was my middle school gym teacher & listening him talk about the case was heartbreaking.
I've heard it covered on a couple other channels and it's always really bothered me that out of ELEVEN adults, not a single one was smart enough to keep an eye on the little guy! There should have been a specific person appointed to each of those kids, someone designated to stay by them at all times, even the older sister was young enough to need constant supervision out there. AND they should've gone back to the lodge directly from the hatchery to get permission to take the kids on that hike, there's a big difference between taking someone else's young children a couple miles down the road with permission and taking those children another 16 miles down the road and out into the wilderness. It was disrespectful to the father and a very reckless bonehead move on the part of every single one of those "Christian Singles" morons. My heart goes out to the father who needlessly lost his baby boy that day. I hope everyone else on that hike is forever haunted by their stupidity, the only exception being the little girl. And sadly she is probably the only one who is haunted by the loss of her brother.
Sorry for such a lengthy response to your comment but this case just makes my blood boil.
I agree ! All of the adults that were with Jared and the two fisherman totally failed Jared that day 😡 It is completely their fault imo, I know technically they didn’t do anything criminal but they are all responsible imo…. So very sad and disgusting and tragic 😢💔
@@phaedrapage4217and you know they're all looking for marriage and starting a family. Failed the pre-test
Don't forget the sheriff's department that wouldn't accept any help. This case infuriates me as a parent and hell as a human. Poor man my heart breaks for him
Sad Mike invoked some ghost story-spooky story comparison, randomly in the middle tho. The family and Jaryd deserve more respect.
I can't believe not one adult offered to drive those children back before going off on the hike. That makes me so angry 😡
or even call the dad from the hatchery to say this is what we're going to do, is it ok the kids come with us. I'm sure the dad would have said, no I'll come pick them up and you can go on your hike, unencumbered by 2 little kids.
@@KnottyCeltic Back in 1999 cell phones weren't very affordable. I know in 1997 (I was 18) I borrowed a cell phone to go on a trip to the beach with a couple friends. I only used it 3-4 times to let my parents know we were there and on my way back on the highway. I owed the girl $300 for 4 phone calls!?! Not everyone had one or could afford one.
However, I do agree someone should have taken the kids back or at the very least watched them like a hawk while walking!?!
I can’t believe dad let his kids esp a toddler go off with strangers
Just what we need this Tuesday, let's goooo Mike
As an avid outdoors man and hunter, I have hunted and harvested Mt. Lions. They "skin" their prey. Watch a feral cat with its kill. They hook the hide (sweat pants) with the claws of their back feet and drag down, peeling the hide off.
A lion could also pack the boy up the hill. I once tracked a large tom lion that had killed a mule deer doe and then packed her for several hundred yards. Jarrod was killed by a Mt. Lion. Coyotes, birds and other critters helped.
That's my thought, too.
Agreed. That amused scream they heard means he was face to face with it. My guess would be a face or throat grab which would render him silent. I hauled a roadkill doe out back one winter and it was cleaned up within 4 days by coyotes. Spring time and absolutely no trace of it, no skull, no hooves, gone.
this is a good theory but still there's no blood ?
I can't believe the horrible negligence of all those adults. Every one of them let that baby down. It was the father's responsibility, but I can't imagine finding a toddler in the woods and just letting him wander off because I assumed his group was nearby.
The father should have designated a responsible adult, but he had no idea they would change their mind and venture 18 miles apart of their intended destination. He is not responsible. I am sure he would have never let him go if he even suspected they would go deeper into the woods.
11 christians and 2 fisherman didn't have enough sense to keep track of a 3 yo boy. Unbelievable 😡
"Christians?"😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@Anita-ej3rp A Christian Group. Yes.
@@Klapauzius-369 Wow that went right over your head, I'm not surprised.
for those who enjoyed this episode I highly recommend the podcast National Parks After Dark. part dark history, part national park related true crime, all awesome.
The first story is so frustrating. A group of adults, deciding to take a 3 year old to a place they didn't agree upon with his father, then not having him stay with the group/ having someone dedicated to look after him and then letting him run ahead. Not even trying to catch him, but just slowly walking after him.
A freaking 3 years old.
Who leaves a three year old by themselves. All of those adults just let him, A THREE YEAR OLD, walk at his own pace in the woods…
Unbelievable. So negligent 😢
What parent lets a toddler leave with strangers
The father also bears some blame in all of this. What father in his right mind entrusts his 3 year old toddler to a group of strangers on a wilderness hike?
@@ferrellsl he very clearly stated at the beginning of the video that the children were familiar with an individual in the group.
@@meelybdeely3496 I don't care who the children were familiar with. It isn't the job of familiars to take care of someone else's 3 year old child! It's the mom or dad's responsibility unless they're at school or in a daycare center...period! This father at best is a few short cards of having a full deck and at worst he should be charged with child neglect/endangerment
Here in the UK if you get lost in the woods you only have to walk in one direction for a few hours and you are either in a town or at the coast, in the US however you can walk forever and not find the edge, I dont think many people realise how big those wildlands actually are.
True
And lots of bears,and mountain lions and of course serial killers
Don't a lot of people end up walking in circles without them realizing? You can hurt yourself and not be able to move, then it's up to others to find you. And what if you encounter something you can't cross (like a lake), you have to go around it or turn back, suddenly you've been in the woods for way longer than you thought and it gets dark and there you have new problems. You just made it sound so easy... but of course it's easy to think that before it actually happens. Many times when missing people are found (deceased) they end up being fairly close from where they left.
@@cathrynmclean7624 Serial killers are generally not in the woods, they are statistically in the city's.
Not entirely true. We have plenty of large forests here. The largest is in Scotland near 300miles long. Whilst not on scale of most North american forests. We still have large ones to get lost in, and take much more than few hours to find way out of.
I've been left to watch small children that aren't mine multiple times. Their patents are too busy having fun to bother watching their kids. But I'm not about to disregard the kids. Every adult is responsible for any child.
How irresponsible can adults be??? A 3 year old is basically still a baby - you DON"T EVER let them out of your sight, especially in a place like a wilderness area. I really enjoy these compilations, Mike!! Thank you for consistently excellent content!! Take care because we love you, too!!
Single adults = no children of their own?
@@rt66vintage16 not an excuse, I don't have children of my own, but as an adult, if there's a toddler in the group or alone somewhere, I keep an eye on him, just in case 😳
It's terrifying how easy it is to get lost in national parks. One minute someone is there the next they're gone. There's so much ground that needs to be covered if you are looking for lost too. Stay safe out there.
Easy would be millions
That singles group of cultists already creeps me the hell out, I wouldn't want to go into the woods with weird religious types, but still sucks to see people get hurt or lost like that
They fall victim to the beasts of the other realm.
I'm just confused why the two fishermen didn't make sure the kid got back to his group, what's the rush? If a random kid came up I'd be like kid where's your people? And hearing them nearby id walk him back, if he was trying to run away because of what the priests probably did to him id understand but didn't seem like it
I wouldn't get lost
My college was inside a National Forest (it’s a school that focuses on wildlife management, park ranger training, ecology & biology, etc.) and the dorms were located right on an unofficial trail. Well, one day, i walked further into the woods than usual & got full on LOST! I went to the highest point i could find and still could only see trees. It was early spring so luckily things hadn’t leafed out completely and i could still see where the sun was in the sky. Also lucky i was able to use my phone’s compass and i walked east until i walked INTO THE TOWN near the college. MILES i walked. The sun was nearly set by the time i got to the street. There was a point where i was fully prepared to have to stay out in the woods for the night and thankfully i had a blanket, water & snacks. I was so afraid that i was going to have to find enough signal to call for help and be absolutely humiliated (which would’ve been fine) but i was able to calmly get myself to safety. Just goes to show how quickly and easily you can get turned around in a place you’ve known for years.
What state was this in?
@@wmluna381 Ohio 😊
If my child was lost while hiking with a group of Christians that would be a serious blow to my faith.
When I was a kid in Colorado we had a safety program called Hug a Tree. The idea was if you got lost pick a tree and stay there with it and hug it for comfort, so you don’t wander farther away. I kind of loved the idea.
loosing a 3yr old in the wilderness is irrisponsable and unexceptable.
Jaryd's case keeps me up at night and is the reason any time--I mean it, ANY TIME--I see a child off from a group, no matter where I am, I keep my eyes on the child until I see them run to an adult. When I was young and my family was on an outing, my dad would tell my sister and I "You've got two hands, and if one of them is not holding mine or mom's hand, we've got a problem."
The expression is "If everyone's watching the child, no one is watching the child," I've heard it regarding many cases but Jaryd is the reason that phrase is always in my mind when I see a kid on their own.
...tell my sister and ME
get grammarly
That’s a great saying by your father . He’s a great father !
@@kathleenmckenna4004 Are you telling them to use Grammarly so that they can be more grammatically incorrect?
Me too! I will never let a kid get hurt or snatched or lost on my grandma watch
Weirdo
Everyone of the "adults" should be charged with child endangerment. That's absolutely unacceptable.
I mean... single! christians! in the wood! 🙄
Ah Mike, you’re becoming so polished, smooth delivery, confident with yourself and your medium! Carry on! More adventure ahead.
There's a movie called Lovely, Dark and Deep, and it talks about how people just disappear into the woods it's so good
Thanks for recommendation, it sounds interesting
As a land surveyor, I’ve been In some pretty thick, nasty ridiculous condition woods. In my experience, it is very easy to get turned around and lost in the woods. I usually have to break branches or blaze a small trail to find my way back. I know what your thinking, “just tie flagging to the trees for a trail”. You really don’t want to tie flagging all over the place because it gets extremely confusing when random pieces of flagging are everywhere.
Plus a lot of these people are a bunch of “trail hikers”, which is so easy that kids do it. They think they can handle going off the safety of said trails and mess up.
Yes, people REALLY underestimate how easy it is to get completely turned around once you get off a clear path. Even experienced hikers can become confused.
@@anna9072 the last one still baffles me though, cos I seem to understand she didn't venture too far from the trail and it was literally just for toilet issue.
Could it be that she felt dizzy afterwards or had some salt imbalance that made her have a sudden brain fog? 😢
@@Uapa500she would probably have wanted to be far enough into the bush to be out of sight - so if she went far enough that no one could see her it means she also couldn’t see anyone, and may have gotten turned around and gone in the wrong direction.
Is there good money in surveying?
Honestly, when my kids were 7 and 3, I didn't care how much I knew and trusted anyone. If we were camping or hiking, they didn't leave my sight. My kids are the physical representation of my heart and soul, as long as I'm alive nothing will ever happen to them.
Amen to that 🙏
As a parent who lives for my children every second of the day...gave up my career as a police officer to be a stay-at-home mother...I can not comprehend more parents than not & the lack of parenting 😢
I live in Ireland and camp hike. I understand all kids are different but I wouldn't let my kid at 3 go , my kids at 3 yrs old wouldn't go without me !
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I've spent my whole life on the Appalachia trail on one region or another. I'd pick a momma bear over the city any day kind of family. There's nothing that will make me take my eyes off my 6yo when camping hiking. I know just how quick stuff goes south when you don't know what's what around you
I've been out and deeply isolated areas of the woods and nothing is more unsettling than encountering someone who you do not expect to be there. Once camping out I remember being awoken by a man screaming his head off incoherently on the nearby trail. This is miles and miles away from anything remotely considered a road and it was one of the most terrifying things I've encountered
Many years ago, there was a short article about basketball player Wilt Chamberlain trying to mimic every move that a 3 yr old made for 24 hrs, but Wilt became so exhausted that he couldn’t complete the experiment.
I just don't understand how so many adults can just let a TODDLER run off on his own into the woods.
You would think that they would have a lot more common sense than that but common sense isn't so common.
The father also bears some blame in all of this. What father in his right mind entrusts his 3 year old toddler to a group of strangers on a wilderness hike?
@@ferrellsl his daughter/the boys older sister was a part of the group wasnt she?
Wasn't that what the story started with was the sister wanted to go and the brother asked to go so he let him go since his sister was one of the people going?
@@MrNobody91 Again, what kind of father entrusts his 3 year old toddler and his older sister, still a child, to a group of strangers on a wilderness hike? A father's primary responsibility is to care for his family. He failed miserably. You don't entrust children to care for children, nor strangers to care for your children, especially in a place as hostile as a national park.
@@ferrellsl I thought it said the daughter was like 16 or 17, which in that case is old enough to look after her little brother. I mean, from what I thought is that they were all together and camping together, so maube he figured he could trust them to actually watch his son.
Also, I mean even if they weren't strangers, as soon as he got ahead someone if not numerous people should have ran ahead and went with him or brought him back.
Also, I'm not trying to argue with you or saying I disagree with you, I was js that jt wasn't that he sent his son with only people he dk, he was there with his older sister.
Those fisherman should never have walked away “assuming” his group was coming soon so let’s just get fishing !… And that group should never have let a 3 yr old more than 2 ft away from them … what’s with people ! … come on ! … irresponsible on all levels
Such a frustrating story. Could have easily been prevented multiple times.
Guys have a dilemma. One of the first thoughts if a guy finds a child (context of lost/safe/would likely be unknown, childs demeanor a factor as well) is,
"I dont want to get "caught" with this kid and get blamed for this or that."
So if there was a group nearby, the avg guy may just tell the kid run back to his group and once the child was heading that direction, my "responsibility" would be done.
Its maybe a little hard to understand if youre not a guy. But idk
The fishermen, as another commenter stated, seem as though they’re
sus-imo.
If you really think 2 grown men with plenty of wilderness experience would let a 3yo off on his own with no signs of adults? Would never happen. Either they were lying or they were responsible
@wejsmith5446 I agree but I would rather get investigated for pedo stuff than leave a kid in the middle of the woods to potentially go missing. I guess it just depends if someone has a child of their own or not.
I Would never let a 3 year old kid run ahead of the group, and if a 3 year old kid approached me alone in the woods I would not leave them until the adults came to collect him, then scold those adults for letting him escape the group. What the hell is wrong with these people? A bunch of mouth breathers, they are at fault. I take better care of a stray animals than those people do a human child.
The people who accept to care for the toddler should be in jail. I own 2 puppies, I omit to go trailing just because I am afraid wild animals will snatch my puppies. I cant imagine the horrific end result of such careless actions.
That was reckless and endangered behavior.
You left a three year old on a mountain trail...ON HIS OWN? There is no reason why they didn't just walk him to or wait with him, until the group arrived. I can't believe they did that.
Yeah that was half murder...maybe give them half a year in prison every year for life.
Yeah that's why ion believe a lot of their story. Like, it couldn't have been that much outta their way to just stand at the fork til the group arrived and u knew he was safe and all.
Also, not too long after he's heard making one small scream or something and no one ahead of them saw him either?
But also, I question the whole thing w the ones who happened to find the clothes too. Like clothes that deff didn't seem to b there for 3 years, you just happened to "be talking bout a case that happened 3 years before and then just happen to dind the clothes". And also on s trail im sure hundreds if not thousands had walked in the 3 years since, that dont seem legit either.
Too many questions in this case.
@@MrNobody91 they are guilty man no more questions needed onto the next!
@makinnewcounts6676 huh? I was agreeing with you for the most part and wasn't asking or saying anything else really lmao 🤣 😂 🙃 😅.
My only other thing was the guys who "found the clothes" with all that the examiners said seemed a bit fishy with their story and how it was said the clothes looked new still, not weathered, tho it could've been coincidence they happened to find them when they did.
@makinnewcounts6676 But as I said, I thought the most guilty sounding of them all was the fishermen. But tbh, you kinda have to look at everyone and every aspect in these things tbh. Solely looking at only one person is how things are missed irl.
I've heard about the little Jarod case before but never did they say the trail was 18 miles away. I didn't realize they got in their cars and drove up the mountain. (Thank You for covering it better than anyone) AND without asking the children's Father - how could they?
I thought the same. Especially since the dad first said no but it sounds like the adults were like ,” no it’ll be fine , just a little walk ..” but to then put both kids in a vehicle and drive away without asking or anything?? Very strange.
Yes!!! Totally never heard that before either, and that's crazy!! Insanely irresponsible and super sad..
I am in western Colorado. Lived here all of my life. I remember Jared's story and search and rescue all over our local news!!!! I have been in every forrest in this state and this shit is no joke!!!! People disappear here all the time!!!! There are 1000's of acres of thick forrests and mies and miles of high desserts here. Do NOT mess around in these forrests here. And DO NOT go in these forrests without a freakin gun!!!! I am a woman with six kids and we NEVER EVER go into these mnts without ALL OF US packing guns!!!!
The image of Mike working a Fire Watchtower hunkered in a corner of darkness very high up, with the only light for miles being the soft glow of his Steamdeck playing “Firewatch” is pretty hilarious tbh😂
There was a guy with Alzheimer's who wandered off in North Wales, he wasn't found for four months. His remains were found in a ditch about 50 metres from one of the most popular tracks in the national park and about a kilometre from where he was last seen alive. So it's incredibly easy to lie undisturbed, even on reasonably open landscape - let alone in a forest.
There is a woman that went missing where I live. She had Alzheimer’s. We have a huge state park right next to us. As far as I know, she has never been found. When I am in the woods, I keep an eye out for her. It has been 5 years.
@@Wolfietherratthe earth is gradually reclaiming her body.
Someone should have been held responsible for the negligence of letting a 3 year old out of their sight in a wilderness setting like that
It’s astonishing that the adults on the hike AND the two fishermen wouldn’t keep Jarred literally within arm’s length!!! Wtf???
Ikr that really bothered me! A 3 year old shouldn’t have been there in the first place but the fact that no one was directly looking after him is crazy. The 2 fishermen thinking a 3 year old can go to the search party on his own doesn’t make sense. If they heard people close by, a normal person would ensure the child is reunited with his family. Who leaves a child in the forest?
I've heard about the first story a few times. It always baffles me at how that many people lost a baby. Explain how that happened to a grieving father. So, so many people. I would never have been able to forgive them. How do that many adults, knowing the dangers, be so nonchalant about letting a child run like that. They were all responsible. Zero common sense. Beyond stupid.
One thing I will never understand about Geraldine's case is that she was alive for 26 days, and she was barely off of the trail. How did no one in the search party find her? They had an extremely large number of people looking for her, and she was a few yards away from where they were looking. It just doesn't make sense to me that she couldn't hear or see them, and they couldn't hear or see her, but they're practically on top of each other. I've seen so many stories about her, and no one can figure that part out. It's like there was a ripple, and for those 26 days, they weren't in the same time line.
She likely didn't survive 26 days; her sense of time was most likely off due to lack of water and food. They were also searching in the wrong place for her because of the last place she'd be and the fact that there had been at least one person who claimed to see her near another marker/campground. Her remains were found some two miles from the trail so it would have been unlikely that she'd have heard voices or they'd have heard her.
Maybe she was placed where she was found after the search party has already been through
@@93FilmsandMedia if I remember correctly, she was found in a makeshift campsite.
@@Delicate_Disaster yes, she was. I have a feeling she went off the trail to go to the bathroom, and when she thought she was turning around to go back to the trail she went in the opposite direction. When she realized she was lost she did make camp and wait, it is just sad she was just a little too far away for anyone to find her. It wasn't an easy place to search, either, terrain wise.
@@lynnl6979 that's probably what she did, wait, considering she sent messages to her husband.
Always I mean always have a 3yr old on a sight. How can u let him go so far ahead you actually lost him, not to mention in forrest you dont even know. Thats so crazy to me.
Yes, and it's someone else's child/children. Not your own child but you would feel even more vigilant about someone else's child that you have charge of. Out of all those people, not one thought to call the dad and tell him that they planned to go 18 miles away with his children to go on a walking trail? If they'd done that the dad would more than likely have said no, let me come get the kids so you can go hiking on your own. The whole story is bizarre. The fishermen part of the story is insane. No grown men would let a 3 year old wander around with them joking and then let him go off on his own to find his hiking party. That is the most suspect thing I've ever heard in my life.
@@KnottyCeltic they didn’t have cell phones back then
I live in the Poudre, I encounter and watch mountain lions so often living here its everyday life.. I have no doubts it was a mountain lion, the scream was cut short by being grabbed by the back of the neck breaking the spine, that's why the scream didn't make the terrified level one would expect, that's how mountain lions hunt, I have seen mountain lions carry a full-grown deer, up an almost sheer rock face with only the deer's hooves touching the ground, you don't think they can't carry a 3 yr old child off the ground, jumping from boulder to boulder? which would leave no drag marks on shoes, I've had them carry off baby calves the same way, I have seen them pull the hide off deer in sheets almost degloving the animal, so it doesn't surprise me it stripped the clothes off, I think then Jared was put in a food cache and buried, and the items were then scattered by other animals into the environment much later and why they appeared newer. The shoes were found together sitting on a rock, but I think someone hiked that trail, saw the shoes and set them there, it may have been in spring with snow still covering the other items or Ft Collins is a college town, it could have been a person from out of state who had never heard the Jared story, so they didn't know what they were looking at, the last two men DID know the Jared story so it was immediate that's something!.
BTW this area has numerous mountain lion attacks, Jared isn't the only one, recently a jogger, who had to strangle a mountain lion attacking him because the cat wouldn't give up, even though the guy got away several times it just kept coming. we can't keep stressing a animal's environment and then expect them not to change their habits to survive. and unfortunately, in that poor little boys' case, irresponsible and ignorant adults, and a hungry cat willing to take a chance for food was the result. I warn every single guest here at my place.. "watch for mountain lions, it's imperative"
You always come through. I've been down the rabbit hole of national park disappearances and I haven't heard a single one of these stories.
No way would I let a 3 year old out of my sight on a hike! 18 miles hiking with kids????? Two fisherman leave a young boy alone at a fork, even though they hear voices. How stupid can people get? Appparently NO LIMIT! RIP sweet boy.
They didn’t hike 18 miles.
those two fishermen probably did something to that kid
Watching Jarrod’s dad speak about his child’s disappearance is heart breaking
I miss your older format. It is nicer when we learn about one story and get to delve into the details as well as submerse myself into the story with you due to your awesome story telling skills. I also enjoy the stories that are recorded in terms of an ending, the mystery stories leave you feelin unfulfilled as well as feel 'tacky' like other YT channels. We LOVE you for YOUR content because your style is so unique. Absolute amazing story teller
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I was drunk as shit and found a couple kids wandering around at night and took them 150 feet back home even though I could hear their uncle calling for them. WTF is wrong with those hunters?
Fishermen but YES, very suspect that story about the fishermen. They should have been prime suspects IMO.
@@KnottyCeltic especially seeing that they wouldn't have even had to walk him back anywhere, they could have just stood there at the fork with him until the group got there. It all seems too sus.
Also the thing with the ppl who found the clothes send suspicious to. On a Trail im sure hundreds if nit thousands of ppl walked in 3 years. They claim they happened to be talking bput a 3 year old case and the same time find the clothes and examiner says they don't at all look like they were where they found them for 3 years in the weather and as if they had been placed there after?
Too many questions w this case for sure.
@@MrNobody91 Agreed. Though I''m not sure if the people who found the clothing were "sus" as the fact that someone probably put those items there very recently to be found. There was no blood at all on the clothes or shoes so exceedingly unlikely that a mountain lion attacked the child as they go for the neck to kill and then open the victim at the abdomen. Neither of those things happened b/c there wasn't a spot of blood on the clothes or shoes. Mice anywhere could have gnawed all those damaged areas if they were stuffed in a barn, shed or even a garage for 3 years until they were tossed on the trail for people to find.
Jaryd's story is rage-inducing. Extending a short jaunt to a major hike with a couple of small children in tow is extremely irresponsible--I'm sure the folks on the hike are guilt-ridden, but I can't believe not ONE of them thought, "Hm, would their dad be OK with taking them an extra 16 miles?" Maybe one person could have brought the kids back?? My heart breaks for his dad and his family.
😂😂😂😂 The bear knocking on the door and Mike's "lemme in". Also it's the kind of bear that answers phones and just breathes.
if you're going to go wandering off the trail to relieve your self, either keep the trail you were on in your line of sight at all times while heading in to the woods, OR tie a brightly colored string to a tree near the trail and let it unwind from the spool or reel while you're leaving the trail so that you can follow it back after you're done. won't get lost that way. and don't forget to untie the string from the tree and take it with you once you get back to your trail. common sense, people. good, common sense.
so much negligence in the first story: the dad, the group who let Jared out of sight, the fishermen who left him.
Left my son with x husband and his wife she was very friendly so sweet that she forgot my son in her car and went shopping when she got back he was fitting and frothing. When i went to fetch him the next day he looked tired. I thought he had flu or food poisoning . Magically the hosp they took him to phoned me to check on my details and bill etc. When i heard what happened rushed him to hosp. My son was fine after a while and i never spoke to her again. 25 yrs later she committed suicide. Never trust anyone with your kids and never have routine esp when they young.
Oh jeeze, that's scary 😟
Thank God he was ok. 😮❤
Oh my gosh! How long was she shopping? I’ve heard of adults forgetting to drop their kids off at daycare and going into routine-mode, spending a whole day in the office with their child suffering and dying in their car. Many aren’t prosecuted because it’s felt to be a genuine accident, though some have been, deservedly, because those cases did seem an intentional “accident”. (Justin Ross Harris.) How did that woman idly go shopping, something that wasn’t routine?! And then she and the child’s father BOTH hid it from you!?
Do you think what she did to herself later was related? Does your son know what she did to him, and what she and his dad did to you, hiding what happened?
Step monster, I'm glad your son is back with you
OMG ! That’s crazy ! Your ex just wasn’t going to tell you ???!!!! Wow. I’m so thankful he recovered.
Wow. I had to pause the video. So you telling me 2 grown adults saw a 3 year old in the woods by himself (idc if they heard ppl in the distance. They saw no one) & decided to let him continue on walking in the woods alone. UnFuckingBelievable
I had to go pee at night while camping, so I stepped out about 20 feet from my tent..... and then was lost ALL NIGHT wandering around in the dark in the woods. It was TERRIFYING! I'd camped a lot in my life and until then I never realized how truly easy it is to get lost.
But like... how? I'm just super curious, not trying to be rude at all. But did you not have a flashlight? Were you camping alone? If you weren't alone, why didn't you call out to your comrades? I mean, 20 feet away, couldn't you still see your tent?
How can so many adults be so reckless and cavalier about watching out for a three-year-old? The minimum is as simple as "where are your parents?"
Exactly, I wouldn’t leave a small child on its own in a store let alone the F-ing forest !!
How in the hell did a 3 year old , get that far ahead of adults walking in a trail in the woods ? I have 4 kids and a 3 year old can't walk faster than an adult in the woods.
These cases specifically just enrage me. Completely avoidable. Children and toddlers NEED supervision in an every day setting… in the FOREST?! Yeah you’re going to need to make absolute shit sure that you can see and know where that kid is at all times. This is just wild to me that these just happen. I fully realize how hard it can be to keep an eye out on kids for every moment but when you’re hiking and camping in the woods there is 0 reason to not be completely vigilant.
Most dangerous situations are avoidable. People 😡
right now an exact same case as the kid is going on in my country. at a reunion a group of adults walked into the fields with a 6 year old and other kids, he walked ahead and has been missing for weeks. Any theory you can think of is being followed, but the timing makes everything really hard to figure out. every adult involved is treated as a suspect.
I've always had a problem with the little boy getting lost. All those adults and none of them watching. They shouldn't have agreed to take him and the dad shouldn't have let either child go. Because really, how well do you know someone? I could not have taken my eyes of either child. They are to be protected at all cost.
Yea I mean he knew someone so thought they would’ve kept the child close, like any normal caring adult would tell the kid dont run out of sight and run after them when they go out of site
@@dadeee7776 I think the father allowed the kid to go but didnt say to anyone, hey you are the one responsible for this kid. So in fact the boy was with the group but actually alone if that makes sense. No one felt like watching him, no one was really concerned about where he is or what he does at a time. Just relying on others, they will take care of it.
@@Fanati_XX yea group mentality I guess, I took the father as knowing someone in the trail as him hitting them up, idk no matter who it is I’m either keeping up with the kid or telling him to stay with me
@@dadeee7776 Ye group mentality is the right term. So many of us, what can go wrong. They sewerly underestimated everything. They even were in the area they didnt know. Just mind boggling negligence
@@dadeee7776 That group mentality is a serious issue with little kids and big gatherings where there is water (pool/lake,/etc) too. Kids end up drowning or nearly drowning surrounded by adults because no one is *actually* watching. Everyone assumes someone else is, instead of assigning one (sober, able to awim) person at a time to be on "guard duty"
Who were the "adults" in the group? They should have been charged. Reckless endangerment, criminal neglect, etc. Unbelievably irresponsible behavior.
Dad is the person responsible. He let his toddler go off with strangers
@@Syynn6so right he's the father who should have protect his son allllllll blamed on the father that's a baby 👶 right there needs love ❤ and attention all the time blessings love rest well baby j God knows you needed love and attention so he takes you back ❤
@@Syynn6 so they're entitled to think "whatever, let him run in the wood"?
I grew up in rural Northern Ontario, in a town of 200 people, 1 store/gas station,post office, beer store,hardware store,diner all in one. The very first thing taught to us as kids was how to use a compass, how to read the water, know that moss always grows on the north side of a yellow birch tree, Stay put till the sun comes up, know what kind of shrubs to eat, how to start a fire with sticks and your shoelace, dig a hole near a creek or river for clean drinking water, how to make a deadfall trap. People to go on back woods trips should know all of these things. At the very least, carry a lighter, fishing hooks/line, a knife and compass. Or, stay out of the bush!!!!
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Right, simply laugh at the suffering of others, Seaglass. It's all good for laughs when you're not a victim.
National park disappearances are among the most creepy
Google Missing 411 and David Paulides’ take on this stuff
Yes! I’ve been heavily into the missing411 for years now
to quote the guy with the wild hair from the memes….
“ALIENS”
@@carolyngair7051 that guy manipulates the stories and doesn't mention evidence to make money
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My life has been total shite lately, but every Tuesday my spirits are uplifted by you xo
Same here brother. Mike is a savior in the darkness. Lmao
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Poor 3yr old boy!!! That story was heartbreaking 😢. I am terrified of the woods even though I grew up in them. Please do a video like this of missing people in the desert! Weirdly, I actually love the desert.
Sitting out on the back pourch this evening listening to this with earbuds and didnt even notice it had gotten dark as shit and i creeped myself out lol
The NoSleep story (The part about the random set of stairs in the woods) inspired an entire season of Channel Zero which is a great tv series that was ended way too soon
will check it out, thanks
been having trouble with finding something good to watch
I need to check that out! Thanks.
Butchers block!! Loved it
The "use the restroom" comment reminded me of the landlord at my old apartment more than 10 years ago, who left a note saying not to allow your pets to use the bathroom on the lawn in front of the buildings, and I was like: "Wow, I didn't even know there was a bathroom on that lawn. I wonder if they'll let me take a bath in it."
It's sad to think how scared the 3-year-old little boy must've been 💔
Who in their right mind lets a three year old wander about on their own and the fourteen year old should never have been let out to wander in those type of places on their own!
Very sad happenings, and RIP to the lost ones.
This is why you don't trust your kids with random people because they have no reason to watch your kid and the fact that there were so many adults and not a single one of them thought to bring the kids back or to watch any of the kids is really disgusting
Too busy trying to hook up with another single . Not much to choose from .
It's beyond my comprehension that *anyone* would head to THE most remote place and commit 'foul play' regarding Stephanie. A place you'd expect nothing and no one. Beyond horrifying.
I found a lone toddler near the waters edge, crying at venice beach califirnia once. I picked up the kid and wemt looking for a cop or a ranger to give him to. Ran into hus dad about 300 yards away... Watching people playing street basketball. He had never even noticed that the kid was missing. I still kick myself for not grabbing that dad by his throat and dragging him all the way back to where i found his kid. He just sat the kid down on the bench next to himself and never stopped watching basketball. Never even looked at me.