First Look: Denon DJ Prime 4+ 👀 There's Something They're NOT Telling You...

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  • Denon DJ has just launched the new Prime 4+ standalone DJ controller 😯 While it looks similar to the Prime 4, there are in fact lots of little changes...and there's one potentially HUGE change that they're currently keeping VERY quiet about...
    DENON DJ PRIME 4+ TIMESTAMPS
    0:00 Intro
    1:13 What's the same?
    2:11 What's different?
    6:39 Amazon Music Unlimited streaming
    7:15 Big mystery feature - what we know so far..
    10:25 Which to buy: Prime 4 vs Prime 4+
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  • @djNineshoxxx
    @djNineshoxxx ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Good move from Denon updating the aesthetics

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It makes quite a difference, doesn't it?

    • @renechang2406
      @renechang2406 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not out yet.

  • @djtoxcis
    @djtoxcis ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I think the big think are stems, to separate Vocals, Melodic and Drums. Because the other units haven't the power from the chip inside to work with stems. 🤷🏼 We will see

    • @CapersJr716
      @CapersJr716 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I believe you are correct. Stems are the biggest feature out now. To have that in a stand alone device would be very sweet indeed.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would be cool!

    • @fabriziogirelli1738
      @fabriziogirelli1738 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think it could be the steams in real time because it should have an apple M1/M2 type processor or an Nvidia rtx graphics card and I don't think these units have that much power, virtual dj to work well (if not leave the steams alone in time real) needs a lot of power and also serato

    • @togisivni
      @togisivni ปีที่แล้ว

      yes!

    • @giuseppetonziello6933
      @giuseppetonziello6933 ปีที่แล้ว

      Terrible pads layout :-( they still continue to put slicer and slicer loop… instead sample or other things…

  • @cosmicpuma
    @cosmicpuma ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome! I've been waiting for the touchscreen effects. Downloading update for my SC6000's as I watch the vid. Thanks Phil 🙌

  • @deejayrepeattvofficial
    @deejayrepeattvofficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video and info as usual my friend!!

  • @edwardmowton9825
    @edwardmowton9825 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Update: The big surprise it can run Doom.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤣

    • @tylerkepple640
      @tylerkepple640 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's not a surprise, Doom runs on anything. It would be more of a surprise if it didn't 😅

  • @Wanderlust
    @Wanderlust ปีที่แล้ว +4

    *Great review!*

  • @mik0186
    @mik0186 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Curious as to what the big reveal will be. My guess is the DRM Chip is compatible with spotify or other big name streaming services. Which IMO is a MASSVE deal. This would absolutely put Denon screaming ahead of pioneer if they can do something like an SC6000+. Having Proper Spotify integration would absolutely be a game changer for mobile DJ's and taking requests.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Spotify would be so cool, and Apple Music.

    • @mrdrgonzo
      @mrdrgonzo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I doubt Spotify would allow it 🧐

    • @thomasamos4055
      @thomasamos4055 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have an Italo disco playlist on Spotify that is aching for this controller.

    • @kevinfamoso1865
      @kevinfamoso1865 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nope, that's not it

    • @thomasamos4055
      @thomasamos4055 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adamg6849 "stems is so 2023" says the future

  • @myronbrown3933
    @myronbrown3933 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, thanks for the update/ gouge!

  • @djndgindagruv214
    @djndgindagruv214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very great review and also loving your honesty on this….. I’m actually thinking of selling my new RANE SEVENTY-TWO MKII mixer with a new DECKSAVER since to me it didn’t compare to my P4 which I’ve been having since it’s release back in 2019….. so, I’m hoping and praying that we’re FINALLY GOING TO GET STEMS in our standalone units🤞🤞🤞

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's what everyone's expecting...

  • @hairydot61
    @hairydot61 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Digital DJ Tip, I do enjoy watching you're in depth content and analysis, ...I wonder if you could explain via a video how to manually re-take control of a Denon prime 4 when you start to do a mix using the 'sync' button, at some point during the mix and you want to plus or minus the speed you are currently playing at the Denon unit appears to be non- responsive, but, the channel that is unused next to the channel you are currently playing a file on responds to the pitch slider for the track actually playing, you can see the pitch indicator number move (increase/decrease) but the playing channel stays at the original pitch without increasing/decreasing, experimenting with the pitch control slider you have to make an extreme movement of the fader to the top or bottom with the slider to appear to 'jog' and take back control of the BPM, I think they may call this 'soft takeover', sorry this is a converluted explaination but its difficult to describe unless you experience it, ...it has made me try to use the unit and DJ without the sync button to develop personal skills but I would like it visually explained if possible, thank you

  • @bornt6win653
    @bornt6win653 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review as always😎
    waiting for the pioneer xdj xz update to see which 4 chanel stand-alone to go for as the opus quad is very cool but a little different from the traditional club set up

  • @RoyWilding
    @RoyWilding ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Looks much cleaner to me, a step in the right direction there. If that DRM management chip means that Spotify streaming is the big up coming feature they can take my money now.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      We'd love to see Spotify streaming (and Apple Music too, come to that).

    • @mattierenton701
      @mattierenton701 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@digitaldjtips (i'll eat my proverbial hat) If Apple music is included in that streaming service, I just can't see that, if they have/do, it will be instantly knocking on Pioneers door and they will be worried, very worried. It'll be like another Sony scenario coming out with the original playstation console and slaying EVERYTHING in its path......

    • @D-Leo
      @D-Leo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe you're right. For me Big would be offline play or stems.

    • @DocFUNKist
      @DocFUNKist ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do you think Spotify streaming can be seen as progress? It's surprising how people never cease to amaze me. Tidal has been offering higher resolution for quite some time now.

    • @mrdrgonzo
      @mrdrgonzo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DocFUNKistdoes it have the catalog though?

  • @cnnonyelu
    @cnnonyelu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When will it be available for purchase?

  • @osbert
    @osbert ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Totally inspired by your last videos talking about your daughter getting into mixing! I am fixated on getting a cheap standalone unit that my nephews can also play with, definitely don't want to be introducing the idea of a laptop / phone / everything else as a music source and a controller being separate.
    This is way out of the budget I'm thinking of, especially with it being just an add-on for me and something I don't want to feel overly precious about letting them use, but it's great to see more standalone gear! Would love to see more videos on that topic along with some of the most budget oriented options!

    • @chuckmakesit
      @chuckmakesit ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sounds like the Numark Mixstream Pro might be what you want, or possibly one of the Denon SC Live units.
      I have a Denon Prime Go with the same OS and it's fantastic to just hop on and spin when the mood suits me without needing to prep a USB or boot up a computer.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@chuckmakesit Agree, Numark Mixstream Pro+ Or Mixstream Pro Go are the way!

    • @osbert
      @osbert ปีที่แล้ว

      cheers for the replies, the mixstream pro go is about 900 euro here, the pro+ is 700 euro, that's about double what I'd ideally like to spend on something like that :S I saw the old gemini gmx and looks like it could work well for this. Any thoughts on that unit or any ideas for similarly low budget options?

    • @d17mop
      @d17mop ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@osbertget the prime go. It’s great. Rock solid.

    • @osbert
      @osbert ปีที่แล้ว

      @@d17mop hehe I'm sure it is, but at 1.1k that's even more out of my budget! Bit of a shame there are so few options for entry level gear to get kids interested in something like this.
      So I've had to rethink the whole standalone idea and a cheap controller is looking very attractive now, to just let them use it when I'm around or wipe and donate an old phone as the host device. Kinda sucks to introduce that complexity and everything else, but lots of good options for super basic controllers that are cheap and/or easy to fix if they smash it up.

  • @cnnonyelu
    @cnnonyelu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When will this be available for purchase?

  • @LadyParysatis
    @LadyParysatis ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i actually like the futuristic look of the Denon Prime 4, i think that it looks wicked cool 💚🌿

  • @DJCastorWu
    @DJCastorWu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Colors and skins are better looking, but also wondering if any better function available ?

  • @aldarroch3303
    @aldarroch3303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Luvvv my Prime 4, and all my Christmas colors :), but all in all both units kick ass. I think the new unit might come with a Hard Drive included or something to do with stems.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely not a hard drive included, everyone is guessing stems...

  • @efrn007
    @efrn007 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I'm ok with the small jogs, but was expecting a more club style oriented mixer, like that on the SC Live 4, or with paddles at least since these have become quite popular. The fx controls per deck are a pain and a mess to work with.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They are "classic" style FX controls, but to the plus side, they are far more flexible than paddles.

    • @JK-ej9xq
      @JK-ej9xq ปีที่แล้ว

      For me the FX controls are gold, if you use Stems in Virtual DJ you can use them with the FX controls without touching the equalizer, is basically the same way as seen on the FLX-10

    • @efrn007
      @efrn007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have the DDJ-1000. For me, the club style layout is better because I can use the pads in conjuction with the mixer fx and the crossfader with a single hand while controlling the left deck with the other hand. I have made killer transitions with this technique. That's something you can't do with the fx in the upper side of the decks. But I understand, from a software controller perspective, and not focusing on standalone mode, the fx controls on each deck are a better choice. We will see if the secret feature is reason enough to buy this new unit.

  • @UONeal
    @UONeal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right as I'm about to lay down... This drops... Thanks Phil lol

    • @erwindouwes7043
      @erwindouwes7043 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      right thanks now i'm gonna be 2hrs deep thx Phil

  • @DJShadow1966
    @DJShadow1966 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Phil, and team and everyone else. Not sure why, but I updated to Engine 3.1 on my used Prime 2, and I have all the new FX, plus smart hot cues, and smart playlists. Am I just lucky??

    • @TheSubsiccx
      @TheSubsiccx ปีที่แล้ว

      its for Denon gear --- but not for the Numark Mixstream units --- they dont have the features

  • @camels3269
    @camels3269 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent review, the prime 4+ looks a lot slicker this way! I only wish they released it with full-size jogwheels instead.

    • @al3xuk
      @al3xuk ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TH-cam music and Amazon coming on board.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe!

    • @grahamkelly8662
      @grahamkelly8662 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are they smaller then regular cd’j jog wheels?

  • @shawnsebastien
    @shawnsebastien ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video. I almost ordered the prime 4 then seen the prime 4 plus is coming out so ordered that instead. 🔊

  • @hernanvergara9313
    @hernanvergara9313 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The mystery might be that Engine DJ will work on the phone, or control your effects with your phone. Be able to join the party.
    Since Inmusic has bought a share of Moog, there might be a built in synth effects, boost creativity by remixing live. Maybe incorporate a groovebox. Cheers

  • @DirtyJokesFan
    @DirtyJokesFan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does this mean a new Prime Go+? I was looking at getting one in the future but now I am wondering if there is a refresh of the Prime gear coming.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      oooooh, don't know! That'd be nice :)

  • @ScottGiorgini
    @ScottGiorgini ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was wondering when DENON would update the Prime 4. Don't get me wrong... because even though I bought my P4 when it originally came out, I've felt like I was getting a brand new unit every time they updated Engine, but it's a lot harder for that original unit to stand out next to all the shiny new gear that the competition have released.
    I like the refinements to the design... it looks a lot sleeker. I also like the fact that I won't have to get a new case or decksaver should I decide to upgrade because the footprint is ostensibly the same. As for the big reveal, I'm betting on Stems as it's the one big selling feature the others have over Engine gear. If they can implement Stem Separation on the same level that VDJ does them, and have it on a standalone unit, then that's a game changer and would clearly put DENON/Engine DJ in a class by themselves.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      We will see! And yes, I think your Decksaver would fit fine. They appear exactly the same dimensions.

  • @shiva007freephenix
    @shiva007freephenix ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for Video and infos. Does someone knows if with such a high end device there is a physical or software pan, having audio just on the left or the right in real time ? Looks like it is not possible !

  • @mikaelcummings9422
    @mikaelcummings9422 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this controller and would love to get one but….cross fader section still too busy…nevertheless great work on denons’ part.

  • @Worrelpa
    @Worrelpa ปีที่แล้ว +4

    new feature has to be STEM's. If it is only for the Prime 4 + then that has to have the power in it that other units don't have. If it is then I hope we get the option of preprepared Stems on certain other kit. Though having serato as an option might be the fallback position on this. My sparkly new SC live 4 is jst getting the updates right now. :)

    • @Worrelpa
      @Worrelpa ปีที่แล้ว

      We already know about Bluetooth to be coming in the next update. Fuzzy key mixing options must be on the horizon. Loving the update to the effects so far. Great job Denon

    • @CapersJr716
      @CapersJr716 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup, I vote for stems

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      " If it is only for the Prime 4 + then that has to have the power in it that other units don't have. " Well, we asked Denon DJ and they said it is the same internal power as the Prime 4.

    • @Worrelpa
      @Worrelpa ปีที่แล้ว

      @@digitaldjtips thats strange since they are so many years apart.

  • @bigdaz7272
    @bigdaz7272 ปีที่แล้ว

    Load up all 4 channels on both machines and see if the Prime+ feels more responsive.
    If yes then i reckon its got a better CPU inside possibly STEMS ready??

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We checked with Denon DJ, apparently not.

  • @chemonmusic
    @chemonmusic ปีที่แล้ว +7

    New and big? Laptop less stems separation? PLACE YOUR BETS HERE. I am curious what does everyone else think?

    • @dj.scio.france
      @dj.scio.france ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +1 live stems

    • @mikecosta1889
      @mikecosta1889 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Stems

    • @thelapander
      @thelapander ปีที่แล้ว

      It has to be stems, can't imagine it being anything else

    • @ronperry4980
      @ronperry4980 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it will have the ability to download and use VDJ, and Serato without a laptop or external device connected since both software have Stems and require more internal processing power.

    • @xXKraNcaRXx
      @xXKraNcaRXx 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Correcto

  • @cnnonyelu
    @cnnonyelu ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When do we expect the DENON DJ PRIME 4+ available for purchase?

  • @markhispot
    @markhispot ปีที่แล้ว

    Depending on when you bought the prime 4 the buttons were plastic or rubber I went through 4 of them and had a couple buddy's buy them. None were the same lol

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Really, that's interesting - thanks for sharing.

  • @tigerdaytona
    @tigerdaytona ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like it so so much ❤🎉

  • @fabriziogirelli1738
    @fabriziogirelli1738 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is sc live 4 ready to full next update?

  • @tharukkus
    @tharukkus ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the new feature is seamless source transition. The tech could already be built in and just requires a firmware update to activate it.

    • @keremyeah
      @keremyeah ปีที่แล้ว

      sorry, what does "seamless source transition" mean?

    • @tharukkus
      @tharukkus ปีที่แล้ว

      @@keremyeah No problem. What's meant by "seamless source transition" is the ability to go from one source of music to another without disruption or cessation. The XDJ XZ & RX3 are capable of this (ei; go from USB stick to software platform uninterrupted). The Prime 4, which arguably is a better standalone DJ system can't do that. If you're on a USB and want to go to an SD Card or Serato (Computer Mode), the music will stop. That's the one caveat most DJ's have with the Prime 4. Denon claims there's a feature on the Prime 4+ that no other unit (including the Prime 4) possesses. My money is on "seamless source transition".

    • @keremyeah
      @keremyeah ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tharukkus word, no offense but the notion that any sane company would frame that as THE big exciting new feature to sell their new flagship product is fanciful

  • @furryrug5998
    @furryrug5998 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Personally think one of Denon's biggest problem have been it's aesthetics, they looked a bit cheap and slightly garish, Denon were verywell known for HQ separates with nice clean looks. This is step in the right direction and I applaud them for taking the fight to Pioneer with their units packed with really cool tech.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      We agree, looks nicer.

    • @djsonhador
      @djsonhador ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They have to adress too that greenish waveform to full colored RGB. It's time to do it. When the SC5000 and the x1800 came out I've said to some friends that were too much green and that could've been a big drawback for denon to sell well the units.

    • @furryrug5998
      @furryrug5998 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djsonhador yeah dude! When you're paying serious money the kit has to look professional. I love to see a collaboration with an old school manufacturer like mastersound who makes rotary mixers with lovely metal finishes and really tactile controls .

    • @martinheinrichs4867
      @martinheinrichs4867 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      well they just adjusted the Design to the SC6000 Design. its okay. but the small lines on the Pads are a NO GO. when its dark u even dont see where the pad starts and where it ends thats too much "reducing"

    • @PiriakaTrackwrecker
      @PiriakaTrackwrecker 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's quite Roland Aira vibesss

  • @mika_six
    @mika_six ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hopefully they're using higher quality components in the new one. To have faders break off in 11 months when you dont heavy hand them is ridiculous. Especially when you have to either solder or replace the mixer PCB to fix them.

  • @devonlynch1738
    @devonlynch1738 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very knowledgeable because I’m a Denon FAN ALLLL THE WAY

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Glad to help Devon

  • @dejavuking
    @dejavuking ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reading between the lines and I could be misinterpreting. But I’m understanding this to be the equivalent to a car facelift, to sell as many of the old platform as possible before the ground up brand new new model is released. So for example the mark 7vw golf, they’ll release a “midlife” 7.5 facelift and then not long after they’ll release the mark 8 vow golf that’s a new different chassis, new tech, new interior, different exterior design, more economical, different engines etc.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Could be, but obviously we wouldn't know that here ;)

    • @dejavuking
      @dejavuking ปีที่แล้ว

      @@digitaldjtips indeedy indeedy 🤷‍♂️🙂🤪. It’s all fun and exciting either way. I love that your alerting people like hold off hold off. As there’s nothing worse than thinking yay I’m finally going to buy a given thing only to then have a new better version of given thing release a month or so after!. I’m the definition of an amateur in djing literally learning the basics. So Phil and this channel is invaluable!. I know I can safely bank Phil’s advice as safety as depositing gold bars in a savings a account (I can’t afford gold bars sadly 😂). No ya from my time doing flying lessons, on track motorsport tuition. I recognise when someone just exudes, radiates and beams knowledge and experience. That one/me/people/pupils etc must just soak in as much of that knowledge and experience as possible, Phil and no doubt he’s team is just as beaming with knowledge and experience!. Great so unbelievably great your/this channel is!.

  • @louiemoldy
    @louiemoldy ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m guessing either Stems/neural mix or DVS support. I’ll upgrade my Denon SC Live 4 to the prime plus 4 if it has DVS support for my vinyl gear in standalone mode.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Lots of people asking for DVS!

  • @dazza1974
    @dazza1974 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry if this question has already been asked but are the Amazon tracks already analysed before they are loaded to the decks…?

    • @LonkDonk
      @LonkDonk ปีที่แล้ว

      No, unless you've previously loaded and analysed them with the same source drive installed/inserted

  • @Dj.MaurcioGiugni
    @Dj.MaurcioGiugni 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Video!!!!, one question: in the denon prime 4+ can it be used in a hybrid way as in the pioneer all-in-one [ i.e. Deck A used in MIDI mode with the computer and Deck B used with a track from the pendrive ] ????

  • @Sidekickjm
    @Sidekickjm ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Phil! do you know If the Denon Prime 4+ can have two serato laptops connected to it for a back to back gig? I know the Prime 4 was lacking that and really wanted to know if the 4+ can do it like the ddj1000SRT

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Technically, it is exactly the same as the Prime 4

  • @jaysonroper0989
    @jaysonroper0989 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beginner torn between this and the xdj rx3… HELP PLEASE🤨🤨. So many things to consider, going crazy

  • @keithchegwin1222
    @keithchegwin1222 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the best streaming service for a mobile/wedding DJ? Thank you

  • @djkarcher1896
    @djkarcher1896 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would be really cool if the new feature would be stems, however, it's a bit unrealistic, as others have stated before. I kind of like the new, sleeker design, but I also appreciate them not dropping the nuclear green colour scheme, as I quite like it. That being said, I'm still quite happy with my XDJ-RX, but if stems became a thing on standalone units, I might upgrade.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, aesthetics are always going to divide people! I actually prefer to more subtle, new look.

  • @jzea5605
    @jzea5605 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I reckon it's stems, I interviewed at NI recently. Didn't get the tech lead role but in the interview learnt that even they are working on AI stems.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah they have already said it is being worked on in public (NI, that is).

  • @chrisnash4202
    @chrisnash4202 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    STEMZ got to be!!! 😊 I love my prime 4 but this might make me upgrade.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let's wait and see...

    • @DylanW420
      @DylanW420 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's my guess, I couldn't find any details about the hardware changes with regards to the CPU and memory they put in the new prime 4 plus, but that would be a good indicator of support for stems.

  • @smsproductionsprofessional7960
    @smsproductionsprofessional7960 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does Amazon Unlimited work with Virtual DJ or Serato in computer mode, or is it only available when using Engine?

  • @digitaldecks
    @digitaldecks ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did they say when their going to release the information about the big secret??

  • @jordanscott134
    @jordanscott134 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hopefully the big thing goes on my sc live 4

  • @soundakrobaten
    @soundakrobaten ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Videomixing stand-alone with a possibility to have an hdmi output over the usb-c. Would be lovely

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      It would

    • @DavidB_AudioTech
      @DavidB_AudioTech ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes or with WIDI (Wireless display low latency) for video output or karaoke

  • @djbeasleytechno
    @djbeasleytechno ปีที่แล้ว

    Maybe a lc6000-M? Thoughts?

  • @IanDeVos
    @IanDeVos ปีที่แล้ว

    Probably stems which requires more computing power the old controllers don't have. Pretty cool for standalones.

  • @OldGuyDJTips
    @OldGuyDJTips ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the phono pre amps any better… the original ones were lacking …. And the do the FX work with vinyl?

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      We would guess the internals and so those features are exactly the same based on further conversations with Denon DJ.

  • @angusdoleman6997
    @angusdoleman6997 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nooo I was going to buy a prime 4 tomorrow now this hahah

  • @AbhishekArghaGanguly
    @AbhishekArghaGanguly ปีที่แล้ว

    Where to buy???

  • @AlexVegasUK
    @AlexVegasUK ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a good upgrade aesthetics wise

  • @djwardlowentertainment9098
    @djwardlowentertainment9098 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I bought a Denon SC 4 Live when it came out. It's a light weight monster and actually love the built in speakers. The prime 4 was really tough to buy at that time but Im happy with SC 4 Live. If this was released when i was looking I would definitely consider Prime 4+.

    • @m-stat9
      @m-stat9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same here, love my Live 4! Half the price, more portable, speakers, sleek layout, better jog displays. P4+ looks also cool

    • @Discoretrox
      @Discoretrox ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Another sc4 live fan...absolutely love it, much prefer it to my rx3.

    • @taneltolsting2900
      @taneltolsting2900 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, I like those jog displays more as well.

    • @djsonhador
      @djsonhador ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Discoretrox Hi! How much better is the Live 4 compared to the RX3? I'm wondering to buy to the Live and I want to know as much users opinions as possible to help me decide.

    • @Discoretrox
      @Discoretrox ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Dj Sonhador personal opinion...don't get me wrong rx3 is a great controller in its own right. But the ability to stream from the likes of tidal, the new engine 3.1 and built in speakers along with the £500 price saving is why I'd have it above the rx3

  • @seanbrennan3472
    @seanbrennan3472 ปีที่แล้ว

    I reckon the new Prime 4 + new feature will be first standalone with built in stems separation will have a more powerful processor

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      So we asked Denon DJ, and they actually told us it does NOT have a more powerful processor.

  • @adamtarver
    @adamtarver ปีที่แล้ว

    It better be big. Big enough to justify another 2k controller. Amazon music and Spotify additions won't make people who already have the P4 spend that extra jack to have a P4+. I love the P4 but I'm in the market for full sized tables at this point so they need to step up and do it quickly with something huge to justify that price point for the guys that already have one.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Let's hope it's not too long till they announce it then.

  • @xaviersantos2251
    @xaviersantos2251 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It would have been perfect if they included a jog adjust knob.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah, there are absolutely no hardware changes that aren't purely aesthetic.

  • @gadjox
    @gadjox ปีที่แล้ว

    This thing is beautiful. No need for USB-C on big devices. The bigger plug is more solid and more difficult to disconnect accidentally.
    The new unit may have a better cpu that does more complex effects and dare we say it.. stems?

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Apparently.... same CPU (Denon DJ updated us on that).

  • @slopiijoe
    @slopiijoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a nice refresh. I was hoping for motorized platters though... But i guess that trade-off would make it heavier

    • @slopiijoe
      @slopiijoe ปีที่แล้ว

      Are the platters different from the original prime4?

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      A tiny, tiny bit wider at the top

  • @DjXCENTRiC
    @DjXCENTRiC ปีที่แล้ว

    My prime 4+ comes next week! 🥳

  • @FintanMoloney
    @FintanMoloney ปีที่แล้ว

    I reckon it will be stems with fairly more advanced features than the others offer.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing your thought, Fintan.

  • @villianaire
    @villianaire ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It looks so much better without the green.

  • @terrypeden6792
    @terrypeden6792 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the Prime 4 + has STEMs capability?

  • @mch1980
    @mch1980 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is stems. The iDJNow equipment store just sent an email about it.

  • @samroller5788
    @samroller5788 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I replace this crossfader if I do not like the feel of the default one?

  • @dhaimovich1
    @dhaimovich1 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the cross fader?

  • @JohnEnergy2012
    @JohnEnergy2012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Probably stems, you need more CPU power to do that, so there might be a CPU update inside.

  • @luperwoman
    @luperwoman 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dear Phil thank you for your great job. I’d like to ask you one question, maybe you can have some info from Denon. Stems on prime 4+ are still in beta test and no other info has been revealed concerning the final release date. Following the lounch more then one update has been done but they are still missing. I found the link to download the firmware inside the beta test group but nowadays it is an old release compare to the existing 3.3.0. Do you think is worth the downgrade ? Sorry the question are actually 2. Thank you and best regards

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No it is not worth the downgrade as the quality is poor

  • @tekk9995
    @tekk9995 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the UKR peace sign!

  • @piurtv
    @piurtv ปีที่แล้ว

    I was first wondering if it would be something like smooth echo so the Opus Quad would not have any argument anymore to justify it's $1000 more expensive price (at least no argument except pretending that "It's Pioneer so it's better") but more and more people are talking about Stems and that would be a complete game changer for a standalone unit !
    But I'd love to be surprised...I'd love Denon to reveal a completely new feature that would made us think "How come nobody thought about that before ?!"...

  • @chemonmusic
    @chemonmusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The new one looks great. I've always thought denon was great but their gear looks like toys. Not much different to pioneer now. Thanks for the video phil

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks 👍

    • @OhhSlash
      @OhhSlash ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@djstuc doesnt need to, but the closer it is, the more likely people are to consider switching.

    • @chemonmusic
      @chemonmusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​ @djstuc No not at all its just a compliment. I use pioneer as an example as it 'industry standard' and typically i'd say most the pioneer gear i've owned has aesthetically looked great. I buy gear for what it can do too first and foremost. And too me aesthetics do play a roll to some degree.

    • @chemonmusic
      @chemonmusic ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @djstuc I think this boils down to taste. To clarify & conclude my point. In my mind, Pioneer is my subjective standard for quality and design. The Prime 4+ is on par to what to I like. I think it's a beautiful piece of kit.

    • @OhhSlash
      @OhhSlash ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djstuc I never said that you chose denon because of how it looked. Im saying that a lot of ppl will not choose denon because they think it looks unprofessional.

  • @mrdrgonzo
    @mrdrgonzo ปีที่แล้ว

    The old one looked like the Roland Aira stuff which also looks crap, nice update. Wonder if anyone could offer a service to change the leds on the old one for the no so savvy

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Never realised that, but yes, it did!

  • @pappasand
    @pappasand ปีที่แล้ว

    I have the SC Live 4, the new Prime 4 Plus look very similar. I am curious if the mystery feature will also be made available in the SC Live 4?

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch our coverage later today on this question

  • @djsnowpdx
    @djsnowpdx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All I know about Engine DJ is that it doesn’t have STEMS.
    Therefore I am certain that “something big” can only be STEMS
    And if the Prime 4 + has faster guts, that’s what STEMS needs.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Can we wait? the excitement is building...

    • @tosmixno
      @tosmixno ปีที่แล้ว

      Hope you're right! I love my stems in Serato and would love to see it in a standalone

    • @bkvargyas1
      @bkvargyas1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I Agree, STEMS is the new feature they will be adding and required a hardware update. Any "Plus" versions of the hardware will feature this. I'm sure new 6000 series and GO series will be next..... I just started playing around with VirtualDJ on my GO with Stems and love the integration so much, I may stay with it and drop Serato....However, if Engine goes STEMS as predicted, I'm all in... I'll have to buy the GO+ as well, as I love the battery operation and transportability of my GO!

    • @markhorsburgh76
      @markhorsburgh76 ปีที่แล้ว

      For those that are reading here... STEMS is being added late summer.

  • @novadjsau
    @novadjsau ปีที่แล้ว

    Are stocks levels going to be matching demand. The prime 4 has been out of stock for nearly 12 months

    • @chuckmakesit
      @chuckmakesit ปีที่แล้ว

      With any luck maybe supply has been an issue because they stopped producing the old units to retool assembly and get a head start on producing the updated model.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You'd hope so

  • @darrendeep
    @darrendeep 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just throwing a curve ball, but where did you get your speaker stands 👌🏾

  • @davidnutter1895
    @davidnutter1895 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s isolation of the different track elements ( stems )

  • @drwayyyne
    @drwayyyne ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the screen have a higher resolution on the 4+?

  • @inigofernandezgarcia
    @inigofernandezgarcia ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you know if Denon is working in Prime Go+ or Go2?

  • @andresgarces10
    @andresgarces10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you think this is an upgrade from XDJ-XZ?

  • @rodrojas4236
    @rodrojas4236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My guess is stems, engine dj is the last one without it. And the fact that they updated the P4 sounds like when Pioneer rendered its previews versions "obsolete" with the release of the flex10 stems capable.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      So the plot thickens, because we asked Denon DJ if the insides have been upgraded, and they told us no!

    • @fabriziogirelli1738
      @fabriziogirelli1738 ปีที่แล้ว

      leave Pioneer's stems alone if you take them for example you make a mistake, they are bad

    • @fabriziogirelli1738
      @fabriziogirelli1738 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djstuc what I meant and maybe I explained myself badly that if you want to have stems in real time at the moment you must have a powerful pc, pioneer to make instant steams has released a software that is close to what was VDJ 1.0 for stems . when they come out with a decent version of rekorbox you will see that they will say : if you want real time you must have this configuration, otherwise you prepare them first and batch. I strongly doubt that Denon has put such a powerful processor to be able to make stems in real time with a quality at least equal to that of its current competitors (which work on PCs). then if instead he succeeds, so be it.

  • @MrEvanTea
    @MrEvanTea หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can anyone help me out here... I have a Pioneer DJM 800 mixer and I am in two minds, either to buy 2 Pioneer XDJ 700s or the Denon Prime 4 plus, which would be the better option?

  • @diogosimoes9066
    @diogosimoes9066 ปีที่แล้ว

    Stems on the software like x-y pad fx?

  • @brycedevans
    @brycedevans ปีที่แล้ว

    Any ETA on when this will be available?

  • @ToddBryantsr
    @ToddBryantsr 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Denon should make the CPU modular or a upgradable option. This would breathe new life and enthusiasm into the Prime 4 line.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I guess the same could go for computer manufacturers...

  • @brycedevans
    @brycedevans ปีที่แล้ว

    The Prime 4+ is now available for pre-sale on several sites and they are all saying that this is the "First-ever standalone with Stems functionality for real-time vocal and instrument isolation"

  • @hp4adz533
    @hp4adz533 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Can’t believe they haven’t made the jog wheels bigger

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      They are a TINY bit bigger at the top

    • @brandonsealey4511
      @brandonsealey4511 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@djstuc Speak for yourself, I couldn't stand the jogs on the Prime 4....they are basically Numark Platinum FX jogs.

    • @P4boot
      @P4boot ปีที่แล้ว

      I am bothered lol Jogs that small at that price is an atrocity.

    • @brandonsealey4511
      @brandonsealey4511 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@djstuc I own a prime 4 and a DDJ 1000SRT. Guess which one would sell immediately on the open market and which one would take a while? CDJ mechanical jogs are the best non moving platters on the market….the best selling controller on the market did so on the back of this fact.

  • @ovidiuss31
    @ovidiuss31 ปีที่แล้ว

    prime 4 uses rk3288 32bit chip ARM cortex A17 year 2015 chip,
    prime4+ uses MediaTek MT8696 processor 2021 chip which is mainly used inside FireTV sticks media players

  • @thomasamos4055
    @thomasamos4055 ปีที่แล้ว

    Presumably stems would require an upgrade of processor which is very likely to be affordable after 4 years.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      ...and yet it has the same processor, they updated us on that.

    • @thomasamos4055
      @thomasamos4055 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@digitaldjtipsso not going to win any friends with their existing users by excluding them from the feature. Also what kind of strategy is "oooh there's going to be a feature, but we can't tell you yet and by the way it's not going to be on all our other gear we are trying to sell through"?

  • @thomasamos4055
    @thomasamos4055 ปีที่แล้ว

    @digitaldjtips are they getting ready for a Live 4 + ? Starting to see some price reductions there?

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooooh don't know, not heard anything.

    • @thomasamos4055
      @thomasamos4055 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@digitaldjtips you have repeatedly said the Live 4 is a home controller. Is there any reason it couldnt be used out, particularly as it looks like a very good Serato controller?

  • @djmikehackett3306
    @djmikehackett3306 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope this question can be answered
    Do you think there will be a Prime 2+ release I have no real use for 4 ch
    Awaiting a reply thanks in advance

  • @rhin0414
    @rhin0414 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spotify and Stems… what else is there? Maybe some sort of sequencer???

  • @djdive_
    @djdive_ ปีที่แล้ว

    The newmark mixstream pro go have the touch fx but they only have 4 options for fx. My Sc5000s have more than 4 touch effects opinions, like 9.

    • @digitaldjtips
      @digitaldjtips  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, the Denons have more in-depth FX than the Numark units.

  • @b__p
    @b__p ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's definitely stems.
    "First-ever standalone stems integrations
    The original PRIME 4 made creative laptop-free DJing a reality. Now, the PRIME 4+ brings the insane creative power of Stems to a standalone DJ controller for the first time ever! Exclusive to the PRIME 4+, the brand new Stems separation allows you to isolate the vocals or instrumental with the tap of a finger. The power of the multi-core processor of the PRIME 4+ combined with the formidable Engine DJ OS finally makes laptop-free on-board Stems analysis a reality!"

    • @stephenrossell8269
      @stephenrossell8269 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where did you see this comment

    • @b__p
      @b__p ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@stephenrossell8269 The DJ Hookup