I Hate That This is Sponsored - Samsung QD-OLED Gen 3
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Samsung Display’s QD-OLED Gen 3 Monitors are HERE and they’re better in just about every way from text clarity to refresh rates. At long last, a 16:9 aspect ratio on a flat screen...
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
2:05 240Hz 4K
4:07 Color Fringing
5:00 Improvements
6:48 4K Test Results
9:17 360Hz 1440p
11:21 XCR
12:30 Conclusion
13:09 Outro - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
I work at an electronics store. We had the new Samsung QD OLED TV out as a demo and we noticed after a couple months of daily usage that the brightness dropped significantly. I knew that OLED TV’s get less and less bright after using them for some time but I didn’t expect it to be so fast. So please do a test on it to see after how many ‘watch-hours’ the brightness goes down to 80% of its original peak and after how many hours 70% etc
id look somewhere else for a proper test and mpre accurate results
@@thefekrys RTINGS have literally been doing this for a while now.
@@WhiteBoyGamer they do fair tests and don't completly over sell it 🙄
Pretty sure it’s also more likely to get burn in compared to woled panels. Pretty sure rtings did the long term test
@@mackbook01 When they can be bothered, yes. They try to do a good job, it's not like they are doing bad things on purpose, but entertainment comes first here.
I appreciate Samsung giving appreciation to the people that made these technologies possible. We celebrate the wrong people in most instances and I feel it is important to shed light on those who really do the work.
Here here!
US celebrity culture is sick. These Samsung guys deserve all the fortune and fame the professional pretenders (a.k.a actors) get. Wish we lived in a different world where the people who deserved the recognition got it.
👏
That is extremely cool of them.
Ah, the fucking irony ...
For real, Elon Musk gets way too much credit when there are so many unnamed Engineers under him actually doing the work.
Pro tip for ultrawide enthusiasts, watching 16:9 content kinda gives a reverse burn-in effect where the screen will evenly wear out in the center 16:9 area but NOT the sides with the black content-less pillarboxes which is really noticable on lower brightness levels...
wait, thats actually a really good pro tip
But that can be fixed by a long panel refresh afaik.
Also it's not so bad if you reduce screen brightness in 16:9 as the monitor will otherwise boost it higher than normally in 21:9.
But the main takeaway from this still stands: In the long term you'll degrade the whole panel as much as your worst pixel.
OLEDs only, everything else is fine.
@@TransoceanicOutreachThis is a video about QD-OLED. What else would we be talking about?
Love that the intro is back in this vid!!!!!! I get not putting it on everything but great that your putting it on some vids!
12:41 is the highlight of the video for me. People who work in collaboration to bring us to the next level in tech should get their name in the spotlight. Respect to Samsung and LMG for bring these gentlemen to the spotlight on their hard work.
Yeah we never think about the shit we take for granted every day.
The thing I hate about monitor reviews is that the side by side comparisons never mean anything to me since they all look the same on my basic monitor.
Almost all phones are amoled now so you can try that way. But it's still not that relevant due to the way cameras register screens.
@@Math1eu- i have a laptop with 90Hz OLED screen. It's like a phone screen but larger. If windows color management configured correctly the images look identical to the phone screen. Not an easy task, but it's so nice.
@myquest84 Footages of monitors look the same on OLED laptop screen too. Most videos are SDR, so it is limited color gamut, cameras struggle with wide color gamut, windows color management sucks. So in a short a youtube video can not show the deep colors that the OLED screen can display.
@@dtibor5903not necessarily because it's SDR, but also because youtube compresses video colour depths to save storage
@@dtibor5903 yeah I have an Display HDR 1000 Display here (not OLED), but on YT nearly no content is in HDR.
My LG OLED panel was broken while moving in 2022 and it happened to be within a couple of weeks of the s95b releasing, so I picked one up then. Been thrilled with it since. The software is hit or miss, but the display is still GORGEOUS. Very excited to see where displays go from here.
S95B was so great value on sale and easily matching S90C at least today. Software needs work but personally I use an ATV 3rd gen and rarely use Samsung UI anyway. Came from 2x LG WOLED TVs and the change to QD-OLED was very big. Way better colors and HDR. Hopefully LG can improve the color volume on WOLED to keep up.
I honestly think that for displays, not for every video, but for displays in particular you should put out an HDR video. So many screens are boasting HDR as a feature and most content consumption screens are HDR enabled, that it makes sense that you should put out an HDR video for monitor and TV reviews as it really helps with understanding what the panel is bringing to the table.
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but there's a lot of competing HDR specifications and not all monitors come close to meeting those requirements. And TH-cam's compression also dings the quality, so while I think it might be worth it, it also might give false impressions to people who don't understand that even with HDR enabled, it's just not likely going to look the same
@@caodesignworks2407 all of those are fair criticisms, however SDR is further away from what the monitor looks like, TH-cam supports multiple output hdr formats. And a small explanation at the front would go a long way to compensating for the differences. Mastering in an appropriate HDR format for the display would also help. Remember most are viewing on their phones and thus are getting reasonably comparable experiences that can be predicted for.
They've put out some HDR videos, not a lot but some.
@@Kirsty_McKay I know so they CAN do it, but I think they should do it for this type of content.
There was a thing that they couldn't control the hdr because of how TH-cam processes the upload so it looked awful. Don't know the current state of it
Poor Plouffe, after so many times of saying AW3423DW, he'll have to learn a new monitor name to spout every 30 seconds :
Naw just neo g8 oled s80d or some crap
I weep for the VAs that will now get compared to this level of motion blur price and screen size irrespective
@@88OpportunistFor a brief period of time, I actually had the Odyssey G8 Neo, and while the sharpness was phenomenal, the black smearing thanks to it being a VA panel was a no-go for me. Plus, certain colour ranges would have (what I deemed to be) hideous scanlines, so I quickly made a return once Samsung would actually listen to me.
This new panel design is quite appealing and I'll be keeping a close eye for monitors using it.
How long these displays will last is a huge contender for me as I won't be buying them every year or two.
I have an LG OLED from 2018 that still looks new to me. Also have a QD OLED monitor with about 1000 hours of use with no burn in
@@particle_wave7614 Could just be fortunate enough to have gotten "golden samples" in that regard.
You get 3 years burn-in warranty for the 2nd gen models right now. So the new one will likely last 5 years or more
@@0106johnny As good as that might sound on paper etc, with warranties in general, I'm highly reserved as to what the actual policy says regarding the whole thing. And also wether or not how "smooth" said warranty would be if you'd make a claim upon it.
While I doubt this is a common issue my AW3423DW just died while I was at work one day. Came home to find a large, uneven black line down the middle
ive had my aw3423dwf for few weeks now and looks amazing, hands down the best monitor ive looked at. cant wait for gen 3
Seriously great video. TH-cam didn’t serve it to me as they usually do for everything from your channel until today. Really loved the content and production value here (animation was super fun!). Very excited about these monitors.
Too often those who actually make technologies possible are shadowed by brands or CEOs' names, it was extremely pleasing seeing you guys giving credit to those scientists 👏 👏
By Samsung's request too, which is cool.
I had no idea that QD tech had won a Nobel Prize either. Very cool of Samsung to have them highlighted in this vid!
Yeah, but we shouldn't forget that this does not help solve the problem. Does who do the work should always come first, not just as a little mention.
@@skyteusi mean that's more than, any othe company does. This is still very commendable.
Been playing with an s95b for a year now, it's cool that the display tech is moving along this quick, maybe in a year or two's time i'll have a 240hz qd oled tv or even something with no burnin. I have pretty severe burn in around ui elements that didn't go away with short or long compensation cycles, so that sucks
What did you play/do in order to get the UI stuck? HDR or SDR and are you using dynamic mode?
Tf2, hdr, standard mode, high contrast enhancer, i have some youtube ui elements burnt in too like the white button above recommended videos in theater mode@@Embre2000
Got my kids the same tvs.
As yet it doesn't feel like they've lost brightness and there's zero burn in, even with them falling asleep wit them on
@@Th3_Gael i use it as tv monitor
@@Audio_noodle Tv monitor? You mean PC monitor..?
My biggest issue is the sub pixel layout. Nice to see that they've improved text clarity. I would be curious to see how better clear type works with the 1440p panel, as I'm interested in a 1440p UW.
I’m super pumped for the laps content on monitors. Especially on the higher end regarding reference monitors and how the newer OLEDs will stack up to them.
its always a good feeling when u just finish making ramen and linus posts a video. almost like its meant to be.
⬇️ramen gang
The "just finished making ramen" gang. Lol
Spicy ramen too
Its also that literally everyone reading this right now knows that you just literally made ramen just a few minutes ago, wild.
did you put sliced cheese in it?
Eating pizza
damn, samsung really went
_"we're gonna pay you to check out these monitors. say whatever you want cause we know you'll love'em...Oh and also give a shoutout the scientists that made this possible."_
It's very unusual - LS
And also, repeat all the AI crap without blinking.
Once these monitors come down in price to the 400-600$ range then I'm definitely going to consider them
In about 2 years...
@@robertpop4553 definitely more
Hell yeah can’t wait for 2026
LG’s 27” WOLED that came out last year dropped to $600 or a bit less close to BF. There’s a small difference from manufacturers but all use LG’s WOLED in the 27” 2K 240hz variant.
@@JohnnyBeGoodz Which specific monitor vendors/models?
INTRO IS BACK BABY!!! Love to see it! Great content as always too. Wish i could afford this beautiful tech, hopefully soon😊
I was pleasantly surprised to see that they wanted you to mention those who made this possible! I don't have any experience with Samsung displays but that definitely gives me confidence to buy from them.
okay samsung-account. if you say so
good marketing ≠ good product
mentioning the scientists is nice, yes. but this shouldn't influence your buying decision AT ALL.
@@vivago727 if giving people the recognition they deserve is something he wants to do while getting arguably the best monitor in existence i dont think its a bad thing
@@vivago727 I'm more inclined to believe you are the bot with the way this comment has been copied and plastered under anybody who mentions the shout-out at the end
@@vivago727 Why shouldn't you chose who to do business with based on their morals? I buy noctua coolers, they are not the best bang for the buck. You can get something almost as good, for half the price from some no name brand off amazon. But I like the way they treat their employees, and the way they treat their customers. So even though they're a "worse value", I would rather give them my money, then some scummy brand I don't like as much. Would you buy a monitor from Stalin if he offered a better price on a monitor? And just ignore the fact he killed millions of Russians? If you like the way people act, that influencing supporting their company even if it costs a little more is not stupid or wrong. You shouldn't support scummy companies that use child slaves just because "its a good value" or something. Have morals
@@lvl5monk297Value is relative.
A for-profit company isn't a charity. They're a business. They're supposed to earn your money by making great products. NOT by giving certain individuals recognition.
Having a shout out to the brains who helped research this technology is really cool to see and makes me want to be a scientist even more. Often our work is undervalued and overlooked while here it can be celebrated along with the joys in life it brings like new panel technology and the experiences that even that comes with. Thank you.
We have an LG B7 which was used for gaming for the first 5 years of it's life, and now is being used as our main tv. It's still perfect.
We now have a 65inch c2 120hz in the gaming/cinema room. Its stunning.
Wait, the intro is back?! Love IT. Yeah the montiors are freaking cool too
I love seeing the Intro making a comeback in these videos ❤
Honestly, I was a little on the fence, but knowing they're pushing you to recognize the scientists that made this work possible, makes me more inclined to make the purchase. We too often forget these people.
It's so odd isn't it? Best tech in the industry but the best advertising they could have possible done based on this comment section was just adding a quick thank you. Advertising really is a lot about feeling more than numbers.
Odd, I find it to be manipulative pandering. Idealists are so weak to con men 😂
okay samsung-account. if you say so
good marketing ≠ good product
mentioning the scientists is nice, yes. but this shouldn't influence your buying decision AT ALL.
@@vivago727 I'm not a samsung account, I just think that making an effort like this is a great tie-breaker when I'm trying to make a choice.
Moving from a switch to a switch oled was an insane improvement in response time. It blew my mind
My Switch OLED convinced me to buy an OLED TV. I downloaded the Crunchyroll Switch app to watch JJK and the black screen sold me immediately.
IKR? Its crazy
@@nttinvis I was not expecting it but when I sat down to do a mario odyssey speedrun it made me second guess life
Wow I have never heard of that!
I recently got my first ultrawide but it's non OLED. My next monitor will sure be one though and this new version of QD-OLED seems promising!
Regarding text clarity, I've found that over time on the previous gen (G8 OLED) its basically been a non issue once tuning the cleartype settings and messing around with some third-party tools. Not perfect, but when sitting at an appropriate distance from the display its hardly noticable.
Man. Did reddit ever run with that complaint… People were acting like it was ruining their entire experience. Let’s be honest, even out of the box it isn’t THAT bad… I love my 27” LG WOLED for the month i’ve had it.
LGs OLEDs does not have this stupid triangular subpixel layout like Samsung presented here. that's why it may look better. They do have additional white subpixel, so its not perfect either, but i guess it's better than messy triangular layout.
@@JohnnyBeGoodz It was quite annoying during the first few days of use to be fair, but I got used to it and basically can't even notice it if I tried.
@@Q36BN LG actually looks worse somehow. I've seen it next to the QD OLED which only has a little fringing, LG WOLED displays have this awful dirty/screen door effect that make it unbearable in normal use outside of games.
The woled from the 27" 1440p oleds were unusable for office work because of it . I returned two.
I have the AW3423DW and a smasung S95B, I love them. No noticeable burn in yet at all.
I like when the camera pans to Plouffe and he gives us a sensible chuckle.
Thanks for the preview of the AW3225F and AW2725DF. Can’t wait. 😍
No one talking about the intro. Nostalgia rush! Love thnx!
I'm curious what some of the graphic designer's thoughts are for MacOS text rendering and clarity. I'm wanting to use this for gaming and design work, so I'm curious if text rendering improved for MacOS as well, not just windows.
If used for design work you should be careful of burn in especially on qd-oleds
MacOS looks like crap on my Macbook Pro 16 M3 Pro and AW3423DWF. Text rendering is actually quite good on Windows, it's not as bad as other OLED monitors. I personally don't have any issue with text on this OLED, and never had.
the AW3423DWF had horrible chromatic aberration on text in macos, I'd really like to know how this one compares when you dont have ms cleartype
Does MacOS even support DSC?
Text rendering on macOS is horrible on anything with a lower pixel density than the displays they ship. Even on a 4k 27" display it is notably worse than on Windows or even Linux. 1440p at 27" is just straight up ugly while it is perfectly fine in other OSes.
I was shocked by how bad it was when I got a MacBook for work and plugged it in at home.
Be very careful if image quality is important for your job. It's acceptable for me, but I'm just coding with my editor in dark mode. I could do this on a TN panel from 15 years ago if the resolution is high enough.
I love how much you guys improved in content quality 👍
Cannot wait to pick up one of these. I've been hyped for them ever since the factor video!
I've been waiting years for that 4k 240hz qd OLED model. I just couldn't take the poor text clarity on the ultrawide models from last gen, so I had to wait just a bit longer.
4k 240hz oled definitely is some very jucy stuff
They are still glossy and purple with any light in the room :/. I was hoping they could at least get them looking black like the LG panels. All that great contrast is greatly reduced useless if you turn off the lights and shut the blinds all day.
I still hope to try one in the future and hope that the text fringing is improved to the point that it doesn't bother me.
Edit: when talking about the fringing, you compared the new higher dpi monitor to the old ones. That is not a good comparison. What about the ultrawides at the same resolution? Any improvement here?
Wow, the motion clarity of those panels is insane!
thank god i waited so long for a such monitor
Kinda curious, since these displays supposedly also have taskbar detection and dimming, does it only work for the standard taskbar in Windows 10/11, or also on like vertical taskbars or even dual task bars Like many Linux distros have? Sounds like a cool feature, but I'm a bit fearful if it might be too narrowly engineered, that you'll break it if you go away from anything other than absolute standard.
Honestly my dream monitor right now would be a 25 inch 1440p 120hz oled with a nice subpixel layout so that text looks good as well. Doubtful anyone would make one though.
LG is supposedly working on a true RGB OLED panel but that's out towards 2025 or possibly 2026.
Why 25 inch and not 27? Are you a competitive gamer? Just curious, not judging.
I mostly play single player. To be honest I'm not entirely sure. I use two 27 inch monitors at work, and recently I bought LGs 27inch 240hz oled and returned it because it just felt too big when I tried gaming on it. Also it had a dead pixel lol and other annoyances. Now at home I game on a 24inch and it feels great because I never have to move my head and even eyes too much while playing. When I played on the LG it felt like a downgrade having to move so much more just to read things on the edges of the screen. Probably sounds stupid, but I'm just particular like that. It could be just habitual. @@Lucromick13
Why 120hz. Why not 240 or 360hz when they're so much better
True they're better and nice-to-have, but I think 120 is a sweet spot. Cause the difference between 120 and 240 felt much less to me than from 60 to 120. And mostly because trying to run a game to actually use the 360hz would 1: require the top of the line gpu and 2: would mean that gpu is constantly running its fan at 100% which is super annoying to me. Nothing against the higher refresh rates but it depends on what games you play, cause some games are easy to hit 360 all the time but the games I play (cp2077, alan wake) Id be lucky to hit 120. @@Evan-xs8ts
Man those look amazing. I mean I love the alienware but seriously I would love that 4k one. Honestly once you set up cleartype then the issue with color fringing and text clarity isn't really an issue and funny enough it was only ever an issue if your doing a lot of text on white background. Anything you use dark mode on you won't ever see it and you won't see it in games either. Pretty much it only is really an issue in office software.
That said I think I will probably wait a bit to upgrade, I probably will be looking at doing it for the 2025 models.
I have an 3423DWF and i couldn't be happier.These screens are absolute beasts.
A bit of a note for QD OLED, on bright room, the black level increases significantly, to the point you're like looking at a LCD panel rather than OLED. Why? Because either the QD tech or the coating on the panel. Some say that since the QD part got stimulated by ambient light, they reflected that light back, and some other say it's the panel coating that sucks. Well, point is, before buying one, make sure you are willing to use this in a dark room for maximum experience on the thing. If you can't, maybe because your SO give you a no-no, then just buy a normal WOLED panel.
I have a Samsung S90C, and have 3 giant windows in the back left side of the room that hit the tv. I’ve
never seen any noticeable difference in the black level and it’s not comparable in any way to the old LCD Samsung I upgraded from.
When nvidias $450 gpu is a 1080p card, I don't think 4K high refresh gaming is happening for most people any time soon.
Agree completely... GPU suitable for 4k, the rest of the tower.... display on top.... you talking about a computer thats over $4k
So about 3x what an average gamer would spend
That's okay, we are not worried about y'all. 😂😂
Well, you probably don't have the budget for a 1k$ monitor anyway in that case
the monitor costs the same as a 4080 so doesn't really matter does it
if you're talking about AAA games with all the cranked up settings, yes it will never happen anytime soon. but competitive games, with competitive settings, well you can already have that without even burning a hole in your wallet.
I want that 1440 panel SO badly. Can't wait to see what it actually is and the price point.
Linus, I got this tip from you years ago in a video. You should try the Samsung S90C 55 inch 4K TV, but run in 21:9 aspect ratio for 3840x1600 50 inch diagonal image. It will have black bars on top and bottom, but not a big deal since OLED is so black. And it only runs at 144 hrtz, but that is about the limit of a 4090 running a triple AAA game today. Looks fantastic. That being said, it has the quirks of running PC on a TV so I'll be interested in the 32inch 4k monitor, however it is a decent substitute.
Yeah I'm gonna need to see the receipts on the "rtings was wrong about the burn in" thing before I take the manufacturer's word for it. And if this IS "fixed", did that come at the cost of rapidly dimming the WHOLE display instead of static areas? While better than burn-in, that's still a potential Achilles heel for OLED as a single daily driver monitor.
I need them to put QD-OLED in a laptop.
Nice to see the intro back!
We bought the a95k last year (year before? time flies) not only on your recommendation, but it was hands down the best quality TV in stores at the time, and it was noticeable. We have been loving it. It was a lot of money, but we watch a lot of TV, so it was worth it. Keen to see how much better displays can get in the future
Do something you enjoy and you'll value time
Looking forward to getting one in 5 years when I can afford one
Great video as always , but what game is this on 7:33 it look familiar but i can't figure out the name
same, i wanna know too
black desert online
I am excited what the next few years will bring. my current 1440p 170hz 27inch is fine for now but I will be itching for OLED sooner or later
Finally the intro, missed u so much
what is the game on the screen at 7:35
what is the game at 6:19 and 7:33?
black desert online
@@__jan thank you! I had no idea it could look like that.
The Intro is back 🎉 please keep it in all videos
I have been both exited about finally getting a 32 inch oled and terrified of it as well. Because that is quite literally all I ever wanted.
This just makes me more excited for CES 2024🥰🥰🥰
Does anyone know what game that is at 7:35?
black desert online
THANK YOU!@@__jan
THE INTRO, ITS BACK, GREAT CONTINUE
It's videos like these that get me excited again for PC gear. Thanks guys!
7:34 what game?
Yeah, I'd like to know as well
Love how the OLED monitor space is heating up in terms of competition. I hope this brings down the cost of older OLED models to make them affordable for more average buyers.
I am glad you addressed the ppi early on. That was the point where I was pretty sure I would counter and say "It may be good, but it isn't PERFECT until we can get to around 165ppi". This is obviously just my opinion but it is super hard to look at other monitors now. (I am not a Mac user... well I mean I have to a bit for work but generally not).
Still no 4k 27" OLEDs with good PPI 😭😭😭
@@petermilian4455pretty sure 4k in only 27 inches is by most people's definitions good dpi.
I just watched this on the Alienware AW3423DW and I've been daily driving it since November 2023 (Jan 2024 as of writing). I absolutely LOVE this monitor, and typically run the Pixel Refresh function 2-3 times a day (usually if I'm going to the bathroom, heading off to the gym, or some activity where I'm away from the desk for a bit) and then just run the Panel Refresh overnight for the 8 hours. Probably over-zealous, but honestly, even this over-zealousness doesn't feel like it inhibits my usage and enjoyment of the display.
To see displays that are even BETTER about burn in and make such over-zealousness even less warranted is super exciting. Certainly not upgrading given how new this is, but I'm definitely excited to see where these panels will be when this one (or my 2nd LCD monitor more likely) gives out and needs replacing.
If you don't have the $$$ to splurge on the brand new ones, I can easily say the AW3423DW or other last gen QD-OLEDs are still worth it, hands down the most beautiful display I've ever used.
I wish I could return my old monitors as these hot new gaming monitors are coming out.
The only question is, are they finally glossy and not mat and ruining the colors, clarity and brightness ? Or do I have to buy a TV to get a glossy OLED ?
Yes they are now glossy
@@droneforfun5384 it there an official source ? I have my hopes up so much...
please make a full-on-nerd version of this video. It looked like Samsung really wanted to show us all the steps and difficulties that they had to overcome. The engineering behind must be mesmerizing.
The graphs are super clean in this video
Don't regret my DWF for a minute at the $800 price point! Would love to see what pricing is like on these monitors though :)
Same here. I wasn’t expecting it to be such a jump from a regular 144hz 27” IPS but it’s colours nearly a year later still blow me away
@@Drewww02 lol me too! THe contrast was the deal-breaker for me, my 27" LG IPS looked god-awful in games like Cyberpunk!
I wonder if LG will have an adequate answer to this tech in future, or if they'll just license it too? It seems like a significant disadvantage that they're such a big name in the OLED scene, and yet they don't use this technology. They have various competitor type processes for their non-OLED TVs, like their miniLED line. Incidentally, I wonder if microLED will ever take off in the consumer space? They're still working on it, it seems, but it seems pretty slow going for the technology to reach the consumer space at tolerable prices and a large range of physical dimensions.
LG's WOLED panels are no slouch, either, and the new ones coming now do seem interesting, as well. In comparison, there's advantages and disadvantages to both technologies.
Only in-depth testing will show who'll have the upper hand - if there even is one. Might well be like this gen where it comes down to which features you value more as well as the work the display manufacturer put in to fine-tune the panel for its product.
@@danieloberhofer9035 - Thanks for the reply. I've got an LG C9 55" OLED as my current main display for gaming and entertainment, so I should have at least last until until the various competing technologies mature to the point that I'd have a clearer preference. I had been banking on MicroLEDs, but who knows how things will go in the next few years.
@@ThatSoddingGamer You've just in passing made a very important point that often gets lost in all the excitement around new tech and the new objective landmarks it achieves: Personal preference. In other words: What features get you excited and what qualities you value will almost always differ from other people - even more so when it comes to something that is very closely tied to human senses (displays -> vision, or the tactility of keyboards for example).
In that regard it's a good thing that competition exists and that not all technical approaches are equal.
@@danieloberhofer9035 - Yes, preference is definitely a factor. Use case is related too. I can have a pretty dark room (small windows, and I'm often up before the sun rises on my days off), so OLED is ideal for me versus maximum brightness to compensate for high ambient light.
It is a shame though, when promising tech gets abandoned because they can't make it commercially viable fast enough to compete in time.
@@danieloberhofer9035 WOLED is good but QD OLED is much better when it comes to colours due to not using a white subpixel to boost brightness what ofcourse will desaturate the colours in the process quantum dots really are just objective imporvements on the display process as far as im concerned only real downside is no polarizer so its not as dark if you have your lights on or sun shining on the screen but i think they more than make up for it in the increased brightness and in the future potentially another alternative to OLED is they can figure out QDEL displays at samsung
I have a Philips Evnia 8600 and I love it. I use it for 8-9 hours for software dev with Webstorm. The code visual quality(can't say the same about it's working ;) ) is really good. Not as sharp and clear as on a DELL IPS next to it but it fine. I also wear protection glases while working so they help. When the evening comes and I start to play games or watch a movie/tv show the monitor shows it's true performance and quality. It's breath taking. Sadly I can't find a way to watch Dolby Vision from PC but HDR10 does it well enough. I also have a Philips OLED707 that has an LG WOLED Panel, I think it's the same as in C2 but limited in firmware. QD-OLED tech wipes the floor with LG WOLED. If LG doesn't brind anything new soon they will loose the OLED battle with Samsung. Now I am saving to repalce that TV with a SONY QD-OLED, maybe this year they will release the next model used the new QD-OLED tech and push it to 4000 Lumen so we can enjoy HDR as it was mastered
The thing that matters most of the time is pixel response time (of course input lag matters too but i am purely taking about how fast the image is changing and because of that how clear it is on the screen input has nothing to do with it which is why i am not mentioning it), Hz's diminishing returns start really fast past a point which is slightly different for each person but there is an average spot for sure.
1:46 isn't 16:9 regular widescreen? Ultrawide starts at 21:9 doesn't it?
Was gonna say I also have the alienware QD oled, since launch, abuse the hell out of it, no hint of burn in, I use it for work and gaming. its on about 10 hours a day
I'm 100% getting a 4k 240hz model
Just ordered the 32" Odyssey OLED G8 (G80SD). Super excited.
1440p QD OLED looks interesting - hopefully it will be reasonably priced. I found most current QD OLEDs to be way too large (I don't want ultra-wide monitor).
The portion of color accuracy had bt2020 as a protocol. I had never seen it being mentioned on this channel before, had to do my research. It would be helpful to briefly explain it or compare to a common standard when a new protocol is presented in the future.
In summary, this monitor is badass - LS
Linus Tech is doing a better job @ OLED fan boy TV coverage than the entire dedicated cadre of TH-cam TV content creators.
@@LinusTechTips absolutely!
@@chebrubinSo there's no room for improvement…?
@@LucidStrike ehh not really. Linus Tech can dominate a lot of TH-cam tech specialty content. His team knows more than CPU and GPU bs.
I love watching videos about devices I will never get😂
yeah being a mindless consoomer is fun i love it
This was a great video - even sponsored - because I learned so much. Didn't feel like 13min!!
I think i already saw a couple of review about the MSI monitor using this panel today. Looks amazing but i honestly wouldn't mind a cheaper 144 Hrz option.
I love when linus convinces me to buy something I can’t afford
Ikr, i guess i have to buy it, im also broke or wait for lg 480hz
I love how all the good stuff comes out or goes on sale after being laid off before christmas "again"
Bitterness intensifies
Thank f'in god the intro animation is back! I'm soooo happy!!!
This is really exciting, I’m looking forward to the next generations of this technology. I’ll wait till they can get the ppi up a little higher (I prefer a 4k panel in the 27”-28” range) and to potentially let it mature a little more but what is already here looks incredibly promising
I agree. A 27 inch, 4k monitor, with 240 hz, display port 1.4, hdmi ports 2.1, oled with glossy screen and no burn in. That’s an endgame monitor.
@@marcgil256 no DP 2.1?
@@marcgil256 nah 32” take it or leave it
I used to think the same thing, and I currently run 2 4k 28" monitors, but my age may perhaps be catching up with me. I want to go 30"-ish so that I can move the monitors further back, I feel like I'm sun tanning every day and want to get the light further from my face. No idea if that would help eye strain but I am willing to try.
@@kennyoffhenny Naw I can’t do 32 inches. I play fps games. I’m just getting used to 27 inches. I upgraded from 24 inches to 27 inches last month. It’s the perfect sweet spot for me.
Cant wait for the 4k 240hz Samsung one, the S95C TV which i own made that decision pretty clear for me.
I have been using an LG 27" OLED and though I'm sure these new QD-OLEDS are the next big thing, there's many other options worth looking at, needless to say I don't see myself ever buying another IPS monitor ever again. OLED is just way too good and is starting to come down in price thanks to companies like HKC.
Same here. I have the Alienware QD-OLED and it's amazing. I'll probably get one of these 4K OLEDs eventually.
I said the same thing with my dwf 34". It pisses some people saying I will never go back and tell me to enjoy the burn in. Well my dwf oled has been on over 8 hours a day since jan 2023 and for work which is mostly a bright white screen and then gaming on top of it everyday not a single amount of burn in. I don't even do the pixel refresh every 4 hours as recommended. I just don't care to stop what i'm doing to do it. It's been an amazing monitor. I've even removed the flat matt film on it to have it all 100% glossy and its just to so amazing to look at. Colors pop like i've never experience before in a monitor. I have videos of my 34dwf and lg 34gn850 and it triggered so many people saying I did some tricks and things to make the lg look so bad. Nope that's your typical back light bleed on a lcd. Hated my 34gn850 with a passion. I will never go back to lcd at this point even with mini led tech getting better. Oled just cant be beat. I'm a huge fan of oled. I just want a 38" oled with 3840x1600 resolution. If those are made i'll replace my dfw in a heartbeat. But until then I have no reason or desire to replace my 34dfw.
@SVT_LIGHTNING Yeah the reason I went with the LG over the ASUS model of the same panel was because of the retroactive warranty LG issued last year. Which protects it against burn in and other issues for 2 years. I'm as stress free as could be while enjoying some of the best picture quality I have ever seen on a gaming display. If it needs replacing in 3 years time I'm willing to spend the money again no questions asked, plus I'm sure by the time the warranty runs out microLED will make its way into market and that will most likely be endgame for most of us
I'd like to see a video about why tech never advances at the same rate. Displays are more advanced than graphics cards. The cards are more advanced than game engines. Proper cooling lags behind everything. I'd like to see you explain why something is always way advanced and some techs are always playing catchup.
Innovation happens at a whirlwind pace. It takes time for the community to adapt or sub-innovate. The bleeding edge is a crazy (expensive) place but it's necessary.
I love the light curvature it has to it
the key when buying these monitors, warranty, the burn in risk and brightness depreciation is a downside. Right now you can get the gigabyte oled with 3 year warranty, (with dp 2.1)
I bought the G8 OLED last summer. Display freezes PC on wakeup from sleep in dual monitor config. Pixelrefresh are not reliable and the remote is not programable for custom quick actions. There has not been a single software update available to download even though they seem to exist (according to forum posts about these problems) Even if QD OLED looks and feels amazing I still feel scammed because thats not what a +1.000€ display should deliver. New panel looks amazing but will look out for what LG has to offer for my next upgrade.
Why LG is the buggiest and broken and most expensive OLED.
@@chebrubin well Samsung bricks my PC for 3-5mins on every wakeup so choose your poison.
@@piti93 I have the AW3423DWF and have experienced no software issues. That being said, there is some burn in from the browser bar at the top and taskbar at the bottom, but its barely visible. Your issues sound like a G8 specific issue, not QD-OLED issue in general.
@@Sevinki that is more than true. Lets just say Samsung is incapable of making their own panels work like they should... fyi after like 6-7 months of moderately heavy usage theres no permanent burn in noticeable on content. That being said if you consume a lot of youtube you will see pixel retention(?) on the left and right side of the monitor fairly quickly because not every video is enjoyable to watch zoomed in (via Zoom to fill extension on chrome - highly recommend btw). Those retentions are fixed via the pixel refresh but seem to be coming back faster every reset. Which again makes sense its an OLED after all. This specifically would not be as big of a problem on a 31.5/32 inch
I'm very disappointed that the anti-glare coating flaw is not mentioned. The biggest issue of QD-OLED is the need for the special anti-glare coating that completely destroys near-black content when there is any other sources of light in the room, negating most of the near-black benefit of OLED. Regardless of how good or accurate the monitor is, it simply looks horrendous for any darker content if you're using it in a room with any other light source. You can see this very obviously as the pinkish hue on the monitors at 1:07 in the video. How can we trust your reporting if a flaw as big as this is entirely neglected in your review?
We don't. It's a sponsored video, we're the products here.
This is clearly a sponsored video. Of course they aren't ripping into Samsung lol
It's because qd oled has no polarizer, it's a flaw of the display not of the anti glare layer
it's definitely disappointing
In a well lit room where they are filming the the footage for the video we can see that pinkish hue like you mention but through out the video the black levels of the monitor looks fine IN A WELL LIT ROOM they are shooting a video. Maybe the anti glare issue was fixed??
The second monitor the 360hz and 1440p one: he said the image clarity isn't on part and than a little later he sais the motion clarity is so good, logic.
Now next big cool update was if Samsung Could finally update their naming scheme, maybe have a comparison list of each model and dont have the exact some model with slightly different numbers and different prices but not telling you what is the difference.
100% it's incredibly hard knowing which monitor is being sold to you. Great, so it's an Odyssey G9. Which one?
As long as you keep the oled's cool they last the expected 50k hours with no real issues. I run mine in sdr mode at 80 nits (it's pretty dark in my room). It's been 3 years (I'd guess maybe 15k hours) and taking a photo of the same scene shows no difference. Main issue is when everytime I go back to the measly 850:1 contrast of an lg nano ips panel it's really disorienting. You get used to it quick though.
If you keep the brightness cranked which really drives up heat, I'd be shocked if you could even hit 5k hours without noticeable degradation.
curved displays for me at 27" plus is kind of necessary especially if you're sitting relatively close to the screen, the curve just makes it so that the farthest edges of the screen are brought closer to your eyes. Going back to a flat 27" panel can feel like the centre of the screen is bulging at you, with the edges folding away from your eyes. This isn't a huge deal, but it is nice to have. it matters less cause the distance from your eyes from a 21 or 24 inch isn't going to be that much farther, but for a display on your desk, it makes a bigger difference the larger the display is. Considering that then, this is much more important for superultrawide displays, since the distance of the center of the screen is going to be so much closer to your eyes than the edges
So happy to see these technologies coming along. I've got a 30 series NVIDIA GPU and I'm waiting for the 50 series launch to buy my next computer. Around the same time I was hoping to upgrade my TV, which I use as a monitor. And I've been wanting to use OLED but the technology just didn't seem quite mature enough yet. This makes me think we'll be there when I'm ready to upgrade everything, and man am I excited.
Lucky you I bought 4090 and only dp1.4.
@@user-xl6yo5dr6p I feel like 40 series is going to historically be trash. Not because it's just bad on it's own, but because NVIDIA misled people so much about the jump in performance.
@@imnotdavidxnsx I got 4090. It is very powerful.
always a good day when i have a ltt video to watch