Hurst Shifter Secret Modifications Revealed
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- Paul Cangialosi shows us his modification tricks he uses on new Hurst Competition Plus shifters he sells. Some modifications may be applied to older shifters when being rebuilt.
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Just got my order hurst comp plus with bearing and clips and I couldn’t be any happier. The quality he adds to these shifters with his “no cost” upgrades are unbelievable. Also purchased the bearings and clips he offers and they’re well worth $21. Wouldn’t hesitate to buy from Paul again. He goes the extra mile.
Excellent demonstration of to big tolerances vs proper manufacturing.
You would think with all the advanced computer controlled equipment we could hold assemblies to a better fit.
It's no longer the same as when Hurst Campbell owned the company in Pennsylvania. quality has suffered since then. My shifter was built and installed by Hurst in their Warminster Pa plant in 1969 and it's rock solid. Never misses....never hangs up.
Excellent straight forward video. Little small details to correct, but makes a difference in the end
yes, very true
Very awesome brother. My Drag special still performing better than new and it is now behind a 815 HP 540 big block Chevy instead of the 496 I’m always amazed at how easy and fast it shifts and now I know why ! Thanks Paul for all you do . 1968 El Camino 540 BBC DRAG SPECIAL AND 355 gears in a Chevy modified 12 bolt diff .
That is awesome!
An Excellent, Very detailed, High Definition video of a once revered Hurst Shifter of the 60s-70s has cut corners to make more money.
Thanks for showing them their lack of quality control.
Paul, you are a legend and your experience cannot be bought. Greetings from Austria.
Thanks for watching!
Love your work Paul.👍
Thank you.
Great video Paul! I'm kind of a detail freak about my shifters too , and have done similar mods , but you take it to another level. It kills me for what these new shifters cost these days , that they sometimes NEED to be gone over like you did to prevent them from hanging up. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on "blueprinting" a shifter. Great job!
Yeah Paul is good indeed. It looks like I have some shifter work of my own to do and will definately be doing some business with him. Thanks for all of your information Paul!
Once again, Paul, you show us that it is the simplest stuff sitting right in front of us that makes the difference you can feel. Great detail work always. Thank you, Rock Star.
Thanks for that
Awesome job Paul thanks for sharing!
Glad you enjoyed it
Another great video Paul! Thank you for what you do and doing your part to keep manuals alive.
Glad you like them!
Such a great video, thanks so much Paul. I love your passion and attention to detail. I wish there were more channels like this on TH-cam.
Great job Paul, the ole' Hurst Shifter ain't what it use to be.
when I'm done with them.... probably better
I purchased a rebuild kit with the extra shims from SUPER661, what a difference it made in the way the shifter works and feels. Thank you Paul for making the kit available, great job!
Appreciate it
Now this is how to do a great tutorial video. Straight, to the point and no b.s.. Thanks for the tips Paul, this will help me fix some of the issues you describe with my new Hurst shifter. Subscribed.
Thanks for watching
Paul, I subscribed a long time ago, maybe at least a year or more, and this is the first time your video has shown up on my subscriber page. Don't know what the issue is, I went to your home page and see that you've been posting quite a few. This one was nice, now I'll have to binge watch all the rest. Thanks, j
I think notifications were broken for a long time.
I'm glad I saw your video today. I have a 75 corvette and almost but one yesterday. I'm definitely buying it from you. Thank you for your awesome videos
Glad I could help
Excellent video keep it up 👍🏻
Thank you. Please share it
Just bought my first Muncie, so finding your channel has been a gold mine of info! Thank you for sharing your knowledge🙏
Very therapeutic watching your video! I'm a car guy and I can appreciate your work and dedication 👏
Never knew one could get a ' blueprinted ' shifter.... keep on the good work... 🙋
Paul, many thanks for posting your videos. I totally enjoy each one.
Thanks
Thanks, that was great to watch!
crazy i took the hurst apart and did everything i learned with this video and i actually fixed my problem im on lunch as we speak driving the car with no problems thankyou mr gearbox
A few years back I needed help on a 5 speed ford tranny and after a short phonecall you suggested a few upgrades which I followed through with. Well worth it and much appreciated. Just lately I tackled my 1969 ford toploader and used your video to teardown and install a rebuild kit. You made it easy. Your videos are top shelf...!!!
Thank you for watching
Thanks Paul, Hurst has a program where you send in your old shifter for rebuild. But a little bird tells me they're not going into the detail you just showed.
We custom make those shims. I designed the fixes. Some dealers do carry them.
PaulVery Informative Video !! Definitely going to buy my Hurst shifter and Linkage from You !! I have NEVER HEARD OF ANYONE THAT'S SELL NAME PRODUCTS BRAND NEW ,TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PRODUCT MEETS HIS HIGH STANDARDS !!! Thanks Paul for Helping & Looking out for your Customers!! JESSE
Thank you
to bad hurst let QC slide down ( was the 1960's gold standard for shifting/manuals transmission quality in manufacturing ) wonder where the parts are being made and or assembled and packaging ect in 2018-up. side note hopefully the newer TR6060/TR6070 stuff doesn't slide down as well and or mopar-60's stuff
tite/good QC almost win's the race by itself and i though it was mr.4-speed/sox teams practice for perfect shifting and most people cannot do it as well come to find out it's the tool/car helping them win
Just got my Camaro kinda on the road the other day for a test drive. I have one of Paul's brand new, rebuilt Shifters.
First time I shifted into third, I thought the damn thing went back into first! It shifted to third so fast, smooth and tight, I couldn't tell what was going on.
This is no joke.
My job is shifting 10 speeds and 13 speeds and 18 speeds all day for 12 hours straight. Ive been driving rigs for 12 years.
The shifter is awesome.
To bad my tranny needs attention with second gear down shifts, but thanks to Paul's other videos on how to rebuild super t-10s, I'll be buying a shop press soon...
Thanks for the detailed comment.
Excellent, I have learned a bunch watching your channel ... THANK YOU for taking the time to share your knowledge and even your business "secrets"!
Thanks
I was thinking a few weeks ago while watching your videos why you haven’t already past 100K subs. Your videos are always on point and factual. No bullshit and no unicorns farting rainbows like most utubers.
I sincerely hope you can make much more than 100k.
Pass the word... Sharing my videos helps
GREAT video! I do this same thing with a lot of things, Holley carbs, SBC oil pumps, Alternators. Basically anything I take apart.
I’ve got a 1st gen Firebird that gets stuck in 2nd gear, and you explanation was exactly what I did to get it unstuck! Great video, and I just subscribed
Great to hear!
You are a God Send Brother! Thank you for taking the time from busy life to share your knowledge! Its been a tremendous help with our race pieces! #knowledgeispower
Excellent video Paul. Thanks for sharing your secrets.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks Paul, I will have a look at that shifter on that close ratio ... and I will remember to wire tie it when removed from the trans...
Great Video! I had a HCP in my 70TA and played with the shimming on the linkage rods and keeping them tight removing the slop but this is doing it right! Great info on how to set one up right! Thank you and I will be using this when I am rebuilding my HCP in my 68 GTO!
I realise this video is 3 years old. Im in Australia and run an Indy Hurst shifter on my Toploader, im going to remove and inspect my shifter, lately Ive been having problems getting into reverse, I adjusted it by the instructions and it feels great for 1 or 2 drives then it does it again, it wont get past the gate, it all seems tight with no play, im thinking the problem might be in the gearbox, but firstly il remove the shifter and inspect and will do what you have shown, great video. Thank you Sir.
You need to get underneath the car and see what's going on. Some of the top loaded detent mechanisms are very sloppy and it could be that just a reals are not actually going back into neutral and then causing the shifter to obviously not being neutral completely
@@GearBoxVideo Thanks Paul. I ended up removing the shifter completely and rebuilding it, plus i watched some of your videos and also chamfered the gates, cleaned everything and up and greased, while i was at it I removed the extension housing and fitted a new gasket and tailshaft seal because it had a small oil leak, changed the gearbox oil. The shifter now works better than ever. I run a Hurst Shifter in an Australian Falcon GT with the adapter so the stick exists closer to the driver and in the correct position of the console, so while i was at it i filed and made things a little nicer there also. I shouted you a coffee about a week ago to say thanks for your videos in appreciation, excellent information for us all. Thank you
Thank you
I bought a Competition Plus shifter about 15 years ago and thought it was super sloppy, now I know why. My brother's is a 70's era and feels much more tight in shifting. Also, mine came with a really long shift handle, I feel like it sticks up way to high, which makes the throw really long. My brothers is much shorter, wish I knew what he has, but it came to him like that, already installed in the car so he does not know, but it feels and works so much better than mine.
Nice work. Good to see you again!
I always remember my Hurst shifters doing exactly what your rebuilt shifter does. Literally jumped over towards third when it hit neutral position
That is the design
You could easily hit 100k if you upload a little more frequently. I mean youll hit 100k anyway that is just a plain inevitably. Don't drop quality for more frequent uploads though. Love your videos, always excited to see something new! ♥
You are the man. Love your videos.
I appreciate that!
This is the video I’ve been looking for forever
Very well explained and shown. Excellent quality work here. Thank you.
That looks like a fun afternoon project.
Everyone could use a hobby
Nice mods for upgrades.
Great information. Why you didn‘t build your own shifters?
If I had an extra 200k dollars to tool up, i would!
Just installed your shims with help from this video. Thank you. Cheers!
Well watching this video with my brand new shifter on the bench. I thought it would be good to go, it has been 40 years since my last 4 speed. I got the box for grins and sure enough in the bottom left corner, on the back is says “it will never work” (Made in China).
I only wish I could sub to your channel more than once Paul.......
So they started building these in China and now they are crap. Man I am glad I bought one from you. Thanks again John.
The parts are fine. It's USA assembly that's the issue. Nobody understands how things are suppose to work
Great job , thanks for sharing 🇺🇸
Paul, I am so glad I ran across your videos and website today, they are all awesome and the best that I have ever seen. Love your gaskets as well. I have some issues starting with my M21 and will be pulling it out very soon. I am also going to do your mods to my shifter. Do you sell a shim kit for the shifters?
Wow, thank you!
Great Video. Learned a lot about these shifters. I suppose this will work on three speed shifters.
hi paul ive watched most of your videos 2 thumbs up just subscribed thank you
Thank you Paul, really good info.
was going to buy a hurst shifter, watched this vid and came to the conclusion that everything is junk in todays world. this vid is proof...................................
You just need to get one from me! Th quality of the actual parts is really good. The assembly is the issue
@@GearBoxVideo How can I get a shifter from you?
Awesome Paul, Thanks!
Your videos are awesome. Thank you!!!
Your channel is awesome. Appreciate the info.
Thank you
Finding first is a pain with mine. It seems like i have a hair tolerance and sweep neutral multiple times before it can fall in. Once its in the up shifts are fine but without downshifting coming to a stop its a pain to grab first gear. Clicks alot while sweeping neutral.
Make sure alignment is spot on and that none of the bushings and springs are sloppy
@@GearBoxVideo Linkage bushings?
Paul, are the new shifters manufactured off-shore now, met George in the early 60's, he really would help anyone with any problem out, no questions ask.
Parts seem to be made in the US and offshore . Off shore parts are not the issue. People are quick to blame offshore parts as the reason for failures. Most of the problems with the shifters are due to assembly here in the States
Awesome video Paul, I sure could of used one of your shifters back in the day
Thanks 👍
After summer so in two months I'd love to send you my grandfather's shifter. I talked to you about 2 1/2-3 years ago and you said you were to busy . Just wondering if you have anytime . This sits on a 64-65 m20 that's in a 56 chevy that I've now had for 34 years so the shifter is from the 70's. Please let me know. Thank you
Paul, please post another video in the near future if you have any downtime to make one, it’s been 3 months and it feels like a million years. Any type of video!
Working on one
Just subscribed to your channel, awesome videos thank you!
Great video paul i like all of your videos alot learned from your videos can you do a video on a hurst v gate 2 shifter rebuild
I want buy one of these from you!
Okay, just realized as I listened to him talk.
Thank You for your viedo i just bought one of your rebuild kits
Appreciate the support
Obviously I need to do some research to find out how to purchase a shifter from you or a rebuild kit for the one I have. I have an early one with a welded handle. I can find a new handle either.
Video description has my contact info. Read and get in touch with me.
You're at 97.7 K subscribers ! WOW !
Gearbox when are you going to reassemble the 4 + 3 Doug Nash transmission I'm working on mine at the present time it would really help out thank you
How much for a unit for a 64 Ford Toploader. You video is very educational and explains why my new competition plus wants to hang up coming out of reverse. Thanks and I enjoyed your video!!!
Contact me. Info is in the video description.
Ok, I can't find who sells the right size shims.
We do. See our webstore. Links in description.
Hi Paul your videos are amazing! I just repaired all the slop in the linkage with your bushing and clip kit on my Old Mastershift. Do they or you make or recommend a rebuilt kit for the shifter itself. The one in my panel truck is over 50 years old and could stand a freshen up.
I only ha e kits for the 4 speed shifters. I don't have any mastershift kits. Glad the video helped
Subscribed ! Thank you.
Excellent video Paul! Do you have any kits or parts for a 3spd master shift also do you have 1 to do a video with? Thank you
I do not
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How about a before and after the shifter mods to show the in-car shifting improvements power shifting down the drag strip?
People are sending me shifters because they have problems. I don't have a car to test and nor would I be building a car with an unmodded shifter taking it to the track so I can have problems and then take it back repair it and it take it BACK to the track again. So, to do that you would have to have someone take two shifters to the track have the car mess up in one pass then pull the shifter out of the car exchange it and then do another pass to see the results. Sounds like a good TV show. Find someone to sponsor me and I will do it!
Just subscribed.. I’m interested in anything that educates me on improving shifting in my 72 Plymouth Road Runner 440 manual, with Hurst pistol grip shifter. I haven’t had a chance to look through all of your videos, so if you can direct me to the most helpful videos, I’d appreciate it! Thanks for what you do!
Just subscribed.. ABSOLUTELY Love your content and your expertise! I would like to know what you would do with a Pistol Grip Hurst in a 1972 833 in my Plymouth Road Runner! Any suggestions? Thanks!
Awesome informational video! I just recently purchased a Super T-10 that came with a ITM shifter. Will this process and your additional shims work on it also?
An ITM is not a HURST shifter. Completely different. No service parts for the ITM at all .
ITM was the first thing people tossed out. Put a HURST in, but keep the ITM, some people may want it to make a car all original. I know of several restorers that use those POS shifters for a numbers matching restoration.
Speaking from work experience, seems that they're using old stamping dies that haven't been maintained the best... some burr is "normal" (for a raw stamping) though. Perhaps there was some sort of tumbler/deburr process that Hurst used to use and skipped (to cut costs, etc.)? The housing spacing to be a QC lapse... either their internal spec was cut, isn't being followed, or has been too loose all this time and didn't become an issue until now.
The older shifters used a fine blanking process which is different than a simple stamping
@@GearBoxVideo Go figure. At work there is a burr allowance (per customer inspection standard) that we go by to indicate when the punches/trim blades are worn and need die maintenance work.
I've seen this with a lot of "made on original tooling" vintage items that have lousy quality stampings... Original tooling is fine and dandy, but if it's wore out, the parts produced are often still junk and not worth the metal their made from. I know of one case in the bicycle industry where an English product/brand was bought by a taiwanese company (after being milked for all it was worth by the English parent company)... all the tooling/machinery they had boated from England had to be scrapped because is was found to be too worn to economically repair after several decades of poor/deferred maintenance. Shame, shame, shame.
Nobody transfers tooling overseas anymore.
Omg those things are not cheap you would think they would address things like that, again Paul another great job sir👍🏼👍🏼
Paul; do you have shifter rebuild kits with the thicker wall pins, and shims available? I am enjoying the hangup between 2nd and 3rd, plus the sloppy feels.
See my contact information and email me your contact info. Yes I sell kits
Pulled shifter off of my 67 GTO that would not slide over into reverse from neutral position. It is a mess and your video’s have given me some confidence to pull apart and clean up. What is your turn around time if I chicken out or get stuck?
Depends. Right now 2 weeks
Excellent Tech info . What is turn around on a NEW shifter from you? And when a shifter is ordered , is this R/B part of the cost?
Stay Real.
Cost includes the mods. You have to call us or send your info. See this videos description for contact info
Paul, i have a Richmond 5 speed purchased 2017 for use in a stroked 383 in a corvette. Wasn’t happy with it so I rebuilt the m-20 put it back in, much better. Now i am building a pro street 70 chevelle, 540 blown motor, Moser rear, will the Richmond hold up to this motor, maybe 900 hp, unknown torque, if not what transmission. Thank you, Dave
I would go for the TKX 5 speed conversion. Sell the Muncie and Richmond bits and put it towards that
Hi Paul, what do you think of the new tremec TKX?
I think it's a great trans
I just experienced a hung up 2-3 hard shift in my Camaro. You mention this is typical for new shifters, but I have an old Hurst on my muncie. Do you think excess play between gates is still likely my problem despite having an old Hurst? Is it possible this can cause the transmission to go into two different gears at once (2nd & R)?
No, check for shifter play and check that the shifter is tight on the mount. Make sure there is no slop in the rods and arms and there connection points
@GearBoxVideo I checked and the reverse drive arm bolt was completely loose and started to back off. It started to rub (and likely bind) the 1-2 shift rod. Could this cause the transmission to shift into 2nd and R at the same time? Thanks for your reply, really appreciate it!
Yes... as mentioned nake sure everything is tight
Can you please post a picture of a Hurst shifter converted to look like an Inland shifter?
You can't post pictures on TH-cam. This is not Facebook or Instagram. Also you either buy a Hurst shifter or an Inland shifter. You don't "convert" one. If you want to ADAPT a handle to a Hurst shifter there are people selling adapters.
Good job
Thanks
Hello Paul, I just purchased this competition shifter which looks exactly like the one in the video. It has the gap that you are referencing above. Can I send this to you, to have it fixed?
Contact me via email at support@5speeds.com
THANKS. JUST PICKED UP 2 SUPER T 10S FROM AN 80 YRAR OLD MAN WITH EARLY SUPER COMP SHIFTER. 1 RICHMOND NEW. 1 T10 TOTALLY REBUILT WITH IRON CASE AND BILLET CENTER PLATE. 2400 FOR ALL. DID I DO GOOD. ??
Yes. That's a great deal
Good video!!! Do you sell those shims anywhere? I think they could be needed for one of our old shifters
Please read the description below the video
@@GearBoxVideo I should have known🤣...
Thanks very much for sharing your knowledge! I have a new Competition Plus shifter that I'm using on a cable shifted Top Loader that worked well and figured that before I hit the road I'd follow your suggestions. I purchased your part's kit, de-burred and reduced the spacing to spec and re-lubed all the parts. After reassembly I find that I cant get full travel in 1st or 3rd (maybe half way?) before it binds (disconnected from trans). Before I take it down again, is there something in particular I should inspect? Thanks in advance.
Nothing with the shifter. It has to do either with the stops or the centering of the gates in the body. Simply disconnect at the shifter and see if you can get more travel
@@GearBoxVideo I found the problem, and it was my fault. The shifter was disconnected when I noticed the travel problem, and the stops had not yet been used. After taking it apart and watching your video more closely I found that I had installed the 15 thousandths spacer upside down. It's not symmetrical and MUST be installed as you show or travel will be an issue. After reassembly my cable shifted LS, Toploader, C5 diff transaxle now shifts into all gears like butter!
Thanks for the update
Has anyone had any experience with using the Richmond Super Street 5 speed, the one with 5th gear as overdrive? Any input would be helpful. Thanks.
great vid.