What Happened to F1 In Vietnam?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ก.ค. 2024
- It's a bit of an unknown. When Liberty Media took ownership of Formula 1, the first new race deal they made was with Vietnam back in 2018. Fair to say that this was a historic deal and race. The event was planned for 2020 but here we are going into 2022 with the future of the Vietnam Grand Prix unclear. The Hanoi Street Circuit was an interesting one, designed by Hermann Tilke, fans were critical of its layout. For me, i can't bring myself to judge a track i have never seen a race on. So on that front, we may never know how good it is. This is the story of what was set to be a normal deal, but ended up falling apart due to the pandemic, and the main organiser getting sentenced to 5 years jail. Enjoy.
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One of the rare occasions that the circuit is never raced on but is already present in the F1 game.
And anyone who has raced tvere in the game knows its the worst track in the whole game. Narrow, Flat and fast making any racing there impossible.
@@gamofin3447 yes. And longest straight means even if you overtake at the beginning, by the end they can get a slipstream and overtake back. The hairpins are very very tight.
@@gamofin3447 Narrow flat and fast is a perfect track for me
@@gamofin3447 not to mentioned the atmosphere, to me it feels like a prison, unlike Monaco that at least has a legendary scenery, and the track design is really failing to show the beauty that Vietnam can have
@@jwork5680 mean you garbage and cant defend or turn well
As a Vietnamese I was mad excited for it, I even told my boss back in 19 that I would took a 1 week vacation to go to Hanoi and see it. Hell I even made acquaintance with a Hanoi girl so I'd have someone local to take me to the track. Then it happened as we all know. I may never be able to attend an actual F1 raceday in my life time and knowing I got so close to, really hurts my feeling.
And no, F1 actually has a quite decent population of fans in Vietnam, it's just that we're not that wealthy to go to other countries to watch it.
Then. Can come and watch it in Malaysia.
you're just like me... although I don't have a job/I can't go to hanoi myself
Viet cong up Northern Vietnam got enough to bring F1 over, he'll they got money to buy 100k Rolex because they can't get it from their country. Vietnam is a communist country anything can happen as long as the people work hard for it
@@Sam-yj6brf1 doesn’t race in Malaysia either.
@@AH-be6bu yeap. stop temporary. i heard they excluded the Sepang track because the track is extreme. But MotoGP usually insist to do winter test there. Rumour have they want to include Sepang track back in the F1 race.
It looks like the ship has sailed - unlike permanent circuits like Turkey or Portugal, they aren't going to be holding other motorsports there in the meantime. Those circuits were ready to step in at the last minute last year whereas no racecars are going to be driving at Hanoi now since it's returned to being streets.
It's shitty track
@@turquoiseBanana it's actually very interesting
@@-Saitama I was a bit of harsh but I just don't like this short-street-very much turn tracks like Monaco, Singapore and Hanoi.
@@turquoiseBanana Having Monaco is an exception to me because, well it's Monaco you can't have f1 without racing there, but I general I hate the right city circuit tracks because it all depends on the qualifying and whoever gets pole is basically guaranteed to win
@@princeendymion9044 singapore is the exception for me because turn 1 is usually chaos guaranteed and the track is quite large unlike monaco so more overtaking possibilities are available, i quite enjoyed last races at singapore as well
Makes the 2020 game more valuable being the only place to drive here
In theory yes. After you try it, you'll hate it almost as much as Monaco.
@@TheQuackleDKZ I think I’d rather race on Monaco with online people who can’t drive than drive veitnam again
Same
Being good =/= valuable. If it's rare it doesn't matter how good something is. And being only available on the game counts as that, even if it's awful.
@@TheQuackleDKZ It was one of my favorite tracks to drive.
I'm quite surprised the organizer built a street circuit rather than multipurpose circuit like Sepang or Mandalika. Even if F1 didn't happened, at least the circuit can be used for another motorsport championship or track day circuit.
Did not have enough money to build a separate facility lol
Ya i agree. I live in VN and it should have been out of the city so they could use it all year round.
Because it make more sense to build a street circuit due to there are little to non motosport exists in Vietnam. It only have 2 motobike tourament, which they use the circuit in Binh Duong sorely for it, which is test track for manufacture like Honda and Yamaha. Other than that, motosport in Vietnam is not that popular so it make sense to build a street circuit that promote the entire infrstructure of it mother company, Vingroup, (in some what shaddy way) but it make more sense than make a specialise complex for motorsport only.
@@boocomban shouldn't make a circuit there at first tho, such a money wasted
Permanent race tracks are dying out right now, Street circuts are the shit now. Katar will probably the last "New" permanent race track for a really long time
Vietnamese F1 fan here, the F1 fanbase here is definitely small comparing to other sports like football, but still there are people who are interested in F1, but most of them are middle-aged mans who started watching the sport in the 2000s. But still a TV service provider in my country has recently acquired the rights to broadcast races after Fox Sports ceased their activities in Asia.
Amist the COVID situation here I understand that the organizers didn't want the race to go ahead as it would have angered many citizens, but as dull as the track is, I'd still love to see a true F1 race in my country.
it was sad to see it being cancelled. though i'm from Ho Chi Minh, i'd still love to see F1 cars rip around the streets of my home country.
Thanks for explaining the F1 popularity in your country.
Nicely said. May I ask which TV service provider are you reffering to ? Since the Fox network leaves SEA, I had to rely on online streams to follow the races and the delays are terrible. Thank you for sharing, btw
@@huynguyen-gl4sn It's VSTV, better known for their K+ channels
How did the public react to the cancellation?
Nguyen Duc Chung is actually the man who brought the Vietnam Grand Prix to Hanoi. Since he was jailed, there isn't really any person who would back the project as much as he did, and they have to put it on hold due to the heavy impact by Covid-19. The main sponsor accepted the financial loss and was keen to move on.
For a Hanoi citizen like myself, who also love F1, it is hurt to see the closed site every time we go by it.
I thinkit should be built outside the cityso VN can build a motorsport location for other types of races.
@@simonbrown7455 I totally agree with you but I don't think they have the interest nor the financial capabilities to build one since Covid-19 is still a huge thing in VN right now.
Didn't know Vietnam was a popular place to visit for Australians! Cool to know! You know what I wonder, how has this gong-show, millions spent on a circuit, a corrupt organizer, and the building still there...I wonder what the locals think of F1, in a more negative light or no change at all?
I don’t know of an Aussie who hasn’t been to Vietnam. I purposed to my Aussie wife in Vietnam in 2018. It’s such a popular destination for Aussie’s and we can’t wait to go back.
A large portion of our population (at least in sydney) is a result of immigration due to the Vietnam War so it makes sense why tourism would be so high
The building is like the track, temporary set up for the race and then dissasemble it to bring back the normal city, other building are convertable for other purposes due to it close to the international sport complex in Hanoi. But overall, majority of Vietnamese are concerning about the covid more than open a race on it soil at this moment
in vietnam, people think that f1 is boring and lame. Just cars going around circuits. And the price of sunday is like 55 dollar, not that expensive but very expensive in Vietnam. So some people criticize the event for being too expensive just to see cars going fast. But against all odds they sold out, and the rest is history
@@froggynonethericher i think the main reason f1 havent really appeal to Vietnamese is because we can't take part in it if that makes sense
For example we can easily play football or basketball if we want to fairly easy, but casually go karting every weekend is impossible since there's barely any facility for that at all. If we cant relate to a sport we cant like it
I came from Vietnam. I'm a big fan of motorsports.
I've always dreamt of going to a race on my own. The dream was coming together when they announce the Hanoi circuit, which was only a few kilometers away from where I live, my dad even rode me the sequences of corner that intersected the public roads (turns 2,3 and 4, the long run down turn 10).
Then when the news hit me, I was... desperate. Obviously the biggest blame would be the pandemic, but when you take into account the amount of roads fixed, the money that was put into this, and the hype as well (an ad on the radio about the VN GP is pretty common), it just hits me hard.
Of course, the track can be dull (I can relate), but honestly, seeing and hearing those F1 cars around the streets where I grew up on would be fascinating. It's a shame it never happened.
Edit: GREAT NEWS! In 2022, there will be a Vietnamese Motorkhana series (FIA-approved) on this exact track, and plans are still being made to put this track back on the F1 calendar in 2023!
Same here
nguyên nhân ban đầu là đại dịch nhưng đằng sau là sự phản đối lớn vì vấn đề chi phí tổ chức nên vn chủ động cắt lỗ kịp thời, tiếc thì có tiếc thật nhưng người tiếc thì ít người không quan tâm và cho rằng nó tốn kém và vô nghĩa thì nhiều lắm b, hi vọng tương lai b có thể xem chặng f1 gp ngoài đời thật, mình từng xem 1 lần ở trung quốc và rất đáng tiền bỏ ra nhé
I hope you will get what you always dream, good luck from Indonesia
@@KilianDo Tôi ko nghĩ vấn đề chi phí là nguyên nhân chính, suy cho cùng đây cũng chỉ là sự kiện xã hội hoá, chủ yếu là vin, chứ ko dùng nguồn vốn nhà nước.
Still on F1 2020 game, and it’s crap there, so probably extra crap IRL.
(On the games it’s easier to overtake)
We’ll never know..
Robin Williams - "Good morning Vietnam."
F1 - "GOOOOODBYE VIETNAM! Wait a minute, too bad we've never raced here."
I enjoyed it. Different. Took a while to learn. Some cool corners.
@@MadeByPerspective Just a note from someone who lived in Thailand; Those stands would've probably been full, every last seat. Vietnam and Thailand have a huge racing scene and it's a great community. Bikers, offroaders, rally, Baha, mini drag bikers, karters, drifters, all would have tried to attend. You'd also have all of the Malay F1 fans coming up for the race.
Texas... Miami... I wish they would schedule a US location that wasn't at sea level and baking in an oven.
Its not a crap track
At least its 1 track Hamilton has never won at
I mean, that’s true
I couldn't say I'm sad about it!
Buddh as well.
And Adelaide
Buddh, Zandvoort and port imperial as well
I’m a Vietnamese and it truly pain me
Sorry to hear this
I mean it’s sad that Vietnam can’t have a race because you obviously have a Motorsport fan base who would watch it. But if it did go ahead the race would be terrible and that would absolutely ruin ticket sales, I say make a new purpose built race track that actually has racing and is good not some shitty non complete half street circuit that has little to no character
that got a bit passionate
As a person who is from the Philippines. This saddens me too. This would've been the closest race to my country.
@Scom Tott totally different.
@@randomman57 mate you got to understand we are in a financial difficulties and making another is just gonna tanked our economy
I was really hoping to see the race live last year. I was really surprised that Vietnam was gonna hold a grand prix. Even if the track wasn't that great, I like that Vietnam had some representation.
As an Australian who flew to Sepang to watch the Malaysian GP several times, I was really looking forward to this race, the value being a big part of it, such a pity the Vietnamese GP looks to have been ditched.
You should hope that you can watch the Indonesian GP, it's closer to where you're actually at.
@@bintangdaudturunanyakubaja2267 HOPE * When is that on the calendar ?
@@jacksalami9945 20 March 2022
@@bintangdaudturunanyakubaja2267 20 march is Bahrain not Indonesia hahah, no race in indonesia
@@nisse4629 Oh, sorry. 20 March 2022 is when the MotoGP will hold their event here in Indonesia.
Life would’ve been very different if we got Vietnam on the calendar
Sure would be..
Not at all.
It would be different for corrupted officials, who would make massive money out of it.
I feel that the Covid-19 pandemic came at the worst possible time for Vietnam in terms of their attempt to host F1 (having said that, when was there a good time). The pandemic struck before the race could even be hosted and even for tracks that were established, like China, they've had a huge hit because of what happened.
I'm beginning to doubt whether China will host a race ever again
I too am doubtful whether we'll see a Chinese Grand Prix again anytime soon, but more for political reasons. All these sporting events in the PRC paid for by the government are just supposed to advertise the country anyway, and we've recently seen Beijing make a hard turn from using soft power like that to hard power, which makes paying for a Chinese Grand Prix no longer fit with their strategy. And let's be honest, if teams or drivers were to start boycotting the race because of the ongoing Uyghur genocide, speak out against it in press conferences, or run special liveries to signal their discontent, that could only hurt the PRC's reputation further.
I won't really miss it though. Shanghai is a generally fine track, but far from exceptional.
@@rjfaber1991 I don't think politics has much to do with it to be honest, after all, if politics was a factor, then F1 won't be heading to Saudi Arabia. I think a bigger problem was the fact that it (the Shanghai Track) was built in a boom period in China, with humongous facilities to match. However, with Covid-19 and no money coming in, the track wasn't bringing in any money to maintain those extravagant and brash facilities. Yes, the first Grand Prix in China, in 2004, saw ~250,000 people attending the race, however, since then, it hasn't been able to reach anything close to those numbers
@@SiVlog1989 No, it's the other way round. I'm not talking about F1 choosing not to race in the PRC for political reasons (because as the Saudi Arabian and Russian GP prove, FOM doesn't care about human rights abuses), but rather the PRC's government deciding that it's no longer politically convenient to pay for hosting a race.
@@rjfaber1991 similar to Malaysia and Sepang you mean?
@@rjfaber1991 i think you bring up some good points, especially because Sportwashing doesnt help much, if the people already made up their mind. The track in China, despite having many overtakes, was never popular anyway neither in China nor in the world
If there's a Vegas GP in 2023, it would be 3 Us GPs and 4 in the gulf in one year. Assuming the number of races is capped at 23, getting good tracks like Sepang or new tracks like Vietnam becomes get harder and harder. Also, anything above 22-23 races a year will be very hectic for teams, especially mechanics and engineers.
This is why I'm against more than 2 USGPs. Seems unfair to other countries and fans. Car manufacturers and sponsors really want that US market tho, so I wouldn't be surprised to see 3+ races in the future.
@@LeJimster Agreed. Austin saw a massive 400% jump in attendance from the last race. Most of it has to be credited to DTS
@@LeJimster we had three races in Italy last year, it was a particular situation because of covid but it was cool for us Italians. But I agree with you, other countries should have the possibility to have a GP
@@LeJimster why do they even bother about having races in other countries. Let's just have all the F1 races in US because car manufacturers and money... WTF
Why not make 30 races and season and ask teams they can chose field only one car for 10 races.. Teams won't be over loaded
tbh the long ass back straight into the hairpin is actually quite good for overtaking(on the f1 2020 game at least) i was actually really looking forward to this race as the sector 3 looked quite tricky and i was quite excited to see what and how to drivers would cope with it.
It would be a dream to Mercedez and a nightmare for other.
A brand new circuit usually brings its own attraction in that all drivers and teams have identical experience with it, namely zero. As a result, it reveals their agility in adapting and making the best of the many unknown challenges to be encountered. Hoping the Hanoi circuit will eventually get to host an F1 GP some day in the not too distant future.
This is crrrrrazy! So much money was put into this but I just can’t see it coming back. Such a weird story, love how you covered it!
wish there was a race somewhere in mainland asia. There hasnt been a race for the past 2 years (going to be 3) since china. Theres a lot of fans here and something f1 would call "untapped potential". If you can have 2 race in the US, there should atleast be 4+ in asia for the number of people here. I know a lot of people in India including me who would just love to go watch a race, but we have to travel thousands of miles for it.
I think Thailand could join sometime. I agree with you, i think F1 is currently having not good at representating the world, with 4 of 5 asian GPs in the Middle East and no GP in Africa, but Thailand has a circuit at least. Finland also could join and South Africa if they get the Upgrade
Since CCP has done so many questionable stuff lately I don't want Chinese gp right now feels like China is getting closer to North Korea year after year
fyi sepang is around a corner
F1 has made it clear they care more about yankee and saudi money than expanding its internationality
I wanna see Sepang and Suzuka back
It's disappearance is not mentioned much on F1 programs that are televised in the US. In all honesty, since the title race is so close, I forgot and all about the Vietnam race.
So thanks for this video I guess. It is a good piece of work, worthy of a like.
Dude, I have just stumbled across this video/channel tonight and it’s brilliant. I’ve just gorged myself on about 7 vids in 1hr. Great stuff.
Can you do a video on Multi 21? Specifically, the background in Brazil?
Or, and it’s not F1, Jaguar’s 1988 win at Le Mans.
Keep up the top work mate. Great stuff.
Yeah cowboy I'm early again
Honestly I'm not sad that this track never came about but its a shame that the organizers spent all the money working on the track only for it to never happen
It does seem very wasteful 😪
I'm living in Hanoi, and some newspaper here said that the authority had terminated the contract to host races from 2022 to 2029 with F1, but none of us actually know the detail of that termination tho
(Sorry for my crappy English)
Sepang Malaysia, Burriram Thailand, Marina Bay Circuit Singapore, Mandalika International Circuit Indonesia 🇲🇾🇹🇭🇸🇬🇮🇩
It would be great for the track and the city to host something like a endurance race or something like that to get things going again. But yeah I was kinda looking forward to it, especially having a few Vietnamese friends that were also excited.
I really loved the layout and I was looking forward to it. I really enjoyed racing on it myself aswell.
I absolutely love that your pronounced his name Nuh-ge-jin cause I did that to one of my Asian friends and he went ‘it’s Win.’
Loved racing on the Track in the game, especially with the old cars... Crazy sound because of the walls.
Anyway, hope it'll get a spot on the calendar someday...
There always seems to be corruption surrounding these new tracks. I hope one day we go back to India. It seems criminal that we aren't in one of the fastest growing countries with the largest population.
When I first heard of F1 in Vietnam, I thought "Isn't Vietnam a motorcycling nation?" Really surprised MotoGP didn't swoop in, but it seems they're more busy chasing the Indonesian market.
MotoGP needs 1) a purpose built track and 2) a large audience, both of which we don’t have unfortunately
@@inhdungvu2746 I agree MotoGP needs a purpose built track, but Indonesia are holding their race on a street circuit (even though it's not really safe)
@@crystalracing4794 Think you don’t actually know about the track, it’s a purpose built track that will become streets when there is no racing. Still has gravel and stuff so it’s safe
@@crystalracing4794 The Mandalika circuit is the safest circuit, because it has a wide gravel bed, and what is meant by the road is in the service road area, if there is a race in the service road area, it will be closed for visitors.
@@inhdungvu2746 in service road you Know?
That it will produce dull racing? I hear that about almost every track on the planet at the moment it seems lol.
@Scom Tott Very true, Spa was indeed mighty unfortunate but then again, i've seen way too much drama there this year so maybe it was for the better..
I would've loved to see that race as the track looks a bit unusual. Hopefully in the next 5 years it can happen
It'll be rubble in less than that time!
I can still see a race happening in Vietnam at some point, but I think it's more likely that other racing categories will go there first to see if there's an interest in open wheel racing in the area
We really need to start thinking about a shifting calendar. A core 10 or 15 races, then the rest shift in and out. 20-22 races is plenty, anything beyond is getting too much for the teams.
It’s a good idea in theory but the venues don’t get enough revenue from doing a race “every once in a while” or for only a couple years. Multi year deals aren’t going anywhere.
@@ero1220 yeah that's the main issue, the race organizers wouldn't be too happy about their race every 3 years not happening, especially with the contracts
As a fellow Melbournian I'm really enjoying your channel mate
Thanks mate! Much appreciated 🙏🏽
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Put Sepang back in - super simple solution
Malaysian government simply don't want F1 anymore
@@Needmore27 then copy the track design in Vietnam. Ta daaa
That track took a lot of time to get a good lap in the f1 game. And I thought it would suit my driving style by looking at the layout
I was really hoping to visit Vietnam and attend the race. Such an interesting country and the track looked interesting.
Great video! P.S. Please use a (better) windscreen on your mic next time :).
Reminds me of seeing online about a planned grand prix in Bangkok Thailand originally for the 2014 season originally set around a street circuit along the cities well known monuments.
If it's not for those opposition complaint about 'noise pollution', we would have a Thailand Grand Prix already.
@@thanawatsakulkaew1123 Imagine the crowd roaring for their boi Alex Albon and also the grand prix would have been sponsored by Red Bull since they were founded in Thailand
Ooo a Vegas night race would be sick!
on the f1 2020 game it featured great racing! Lovely track, hard to get right, Daniel Ricciardo would love the hairpin at the end of the long straight.
That hairpin at the end of that mega-long straights is the most frustrating corner I have even seen, never got it right.
Having 'raced' it in the F1 game, I can say that I am glad. I have never before in F1 simmed beyond a race before but F1 2020? After trying Vietnam 4 times I have completely given up on finding a single redeeming feature and happily sim beyond it.
Maybe motorcycle road racing will take advantage one day of the track and the buildings one week after or before the Macau GP with Michael Dunlop and Peter Hickman.
Maybe if they can find an organizer with no affiliation to the previous one, and set up a rotating calendar with a few tracks in that area. Maybe throw it, China, and Malaysia into a 3 year rotation. And yes, I could also see them doing this in the US with Long Beach, Vegas, Indy, and Miami.
Let's get this straight. F1 and motorsports in general is a rich man's sport, and had its main fanbase in Eurpoe and the Americas. Asia (as a continent) was never interesed in and it's population wasn't rich enough to afford indulge in any form of motorsports. This is slowly changing though. And I really hope that motorsports can become an accesible and a global sport in few years time.
I doubt western people could afford to buy motogp or f1 either.
I raced this track in F1 2020 and am honestly happy we didn’t see this track; it just felt super dangerous, especially the fast paced S section that an mead to some seriously dangerous spins/crashes (not to mention the fact that cars wouldn’t be able to follow each other)
Bro wdym it's a great track why would you judge it based on your terrible skill. I love the last sector it's very very satisfying like a mix of Turkey and the turns after copse.
Hyderabad will host F4 and Formula Regional on India's 1st street circuit which will be very similar to Hanoi...
You forget one big thing..... Vietnam is one of/ if not the biggest growing economy in the east. No chance Liberty media will be ignoring that fact.
Raced the Hanoi track in F1 Mobile. Sector 3 was very challenging.
The thumbnail is literally sums out the whole video, that’s interesting.
Didn’t hear about this track for a long time. No f1 game here. Shame we didn’t get to see a race there. At least to see how the racing would be. Agree on judging after a race.
The races don't have to be there for the long haul. A rotation of some of these types of tracks would be good. Two years here, two years there, two years in a another venue...mix it up a little!!!
Ik hoop dat ie nog ooit op de kalender komt,mooi circuit.
It's so sad that the track won't be hosted in my country after many effort. The pandemic in Hanoi is unstable currently and it's impossible to host an event like this, and also the death of Charlie affect on the contract's negotiation and yeah i will have a long time to wait for the first Vietnam GP :((((((((
I raced this track in the game it’s one of my favourites
In a week, this is already the most popular video made by Perspective
Can you do a video on Kyalami and the chances of it returning to the calendar
I lived 5km from this track when the race was supposed to happen. Super bummed it didn't take place.
i'm a Vietnamese that wait since the start of the announcement of f1 in Vietnam and it just suck when it got cancelled last year.
As a kiwi I was looking forward to this as its somewhat close to home and a lot cheaper then Singapore
As a Vietnamese i was so sad. I love F1 i could of see one right in my eyes but now I hope it will come back.
Vietname still can host the world go-kart championship.
I had planned and booked a 2-week vacation there around this event and was really hoping to attend the inaugural race in my home country, before the s#%t hit the fan. Still holding out hope that they'll add it to the calendar in a few years. It's a shame if not, especially in a developing country.
I think a price for a ticket in f1 race is expensive for Vietnam people, just a small number of people can afford it
I think the track could still find a use, perhaps as a Macau replacement for WTCR.
That track looks like Monaco and Sochi had a child. LOL.
This is due to lack of fan base, unwise decision and the environmental footprint
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theres bass boosts in some parts of the video, it sounds like you keep on hitting your mic, or keep on hitting your mic stand or boom arm
Always wondered how Tilka got that gig. It's not like u can go on an F1 track designing course!
I'm from Vietnam so I know a fair bit about this.
While there's still hope for Vietnam Grand Prix to actually take off and I'm live, Vietnam has a lot of work to do, including freaking with the track and its usage. And investment.
All the work and effort that has gone into this. Don't let it go to waste
Use it for what it was intended for and let it try and help the local economy
I feel like this circuit deserves at least one chance at a race. A lot of people lost a lot of money to put the entire event together, and they did everything they were supposed to do (except for buddy that got himself arrested). Everything is there. I would love to see it at least once
Personally I wish that the F1 calendar was a bit more dynamic, if say we end up with a 25 race season maybe have 12 or 13 permanent tracks and have then have a pool of 20-25 that rotate in and out. After all one of the best things about Covid was going to tracks like Imola, Nuremberg, Mugello and Portimoa which we wouldn’t have otherwise and if we could widen the tracks that F1 goes to further while protecting tracks that are seen as the Crown Jewels of the calendar that would surely be better for the fans. And maybe with tracks having years off that would also give the poor tracks a chance to be evaluated and changes made to try and improve it where as with only a year that might limit the ability to do so
This is perhaps the best idea I’ve heard in a long time!
Alright, let’s get speculative:
Say the F1 goes full 24-25 race calendar. You mentioned 12-13 Crown Jewels as permanent ones. Let’s start with which ones would you keep permanent?
@@luislicona386 I would probally have Silverstone, Monza, Spa, Canada, one of the german races (personally I prefer Hokenheim), Intalogos, Suzuka. Monaco has to be in there too despite not being great race, not sure Ciruit of Americas has done enough really to yet being considered a crown jewel circuit but it has pretty good racing and they would want a perm US circuit on the calender. Australia would probably need to be there too although not the biggest fan of Albert Park.. Barca has the heritage to be in that list although again not a fan, they do so much testing there it destroys the racing IMHO. Finally I guess you need one of the middle east ones despite again often not being the best races just because of the money aspect, although which one could be problematic. I'm probably missing a good one that deserves to be there either for heritage or financial reasons
@@SimonWakefieldUK
I agree with pretty much all of your picks.
I think Australia should definitively have a spot and I would also complete it with Malaysia which I've always enjoyed, Spain which also has some good tracks that could rotate each year, Mexico which has a truly massive fanbase and adds something different with the altitude, Abu Dhabi which has kind of become the closing ceremony for the F1 calendar and yeah I would keep an American GP. I wish it was Long Beach tho, it has way more racing history. I would also hope we get one of the nordic countries one day! Lots of Finnish drivers.
The list of "permanent ones" would then be:
- Malaysia 🇲🇾
- China 🇨🇳
- Australia 🇦🇺
- Spain 🇪🇸
- Germany 🇩🇪
- Monaco 🇲🇨
- Austria 🇦🇹
- Monza 🇮🇹
- Spa 🇧🇪
- Silverstone 🇬🇧
- Singapore 🇸🇬
- Suzuka 🇯🇵
- Canada 🇨🇦
- Mexico 🇲🇽
- United States 🇺🇸
- Brazil 🇧🇷
- Abu Dhabi 🇦🇪
That's a total of 17, so you could have 8 GPs rotate and that would be your France, Portugal, Hungary (which could almost be permanent!), Netherlands, Turkey, Korea (I really hope it returns), Bahrain (one of my favorite tracks but I understand it would probably rotate some times), Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan, Indonesia, more American GPs, more European GPs and of course the likes of Vietnam which was the topic of this video. Lmk your thoughts!
@@luislicona386 I'm not sure I would have China, has it ever had a really good race? I would also prefer Bahrain over Abu Dhabi. Bahrain isn’t the best but it’s better than Abu Dhabi. Mind you I would want Bahrain to alternate between the two versions of the track we used last year as that would make it more appealing. Singapore might have a lot of safety cars but the racing is poor so I wouldn’t have that every year. It’s not even got the unique aspect of a night race to itself anymore and Baku provides both a nicer looking and better street race imho. And not sure Malaysia would want to host it every year as with more Asian races and the novelty going away they struggled to sell tickets, being an occasional GP might appeal to them more as it would be a better marketing tool
@@SimonWakefieldUK
You make a good point for all of them. As far as China, I only kept it in the calendar to stay realistic because they will not be letting go of the Chinese market any time soon. Perhaps a new track would be welcome? After all, it's a big country!
It's been awesome coming up with this, and I honestly think we might actually see rotation happen! It's been nice meeting a fellow F1 fan, take care and greetings from Mexico.
'm also a Vietnamese F1 fan, there are very few people watch F1 in Vietnam ( Incredible rare ). As a Vietnamese , I would love to see F1 at Vietnam, but I think the chance F1 to Vietnam is just like 0%. The track might be boring but we still can see fight between title contenders....
btw mrs. Perspective. Thanks for making the video. I don't see people talk about this very much( about a grand prix in Vietnam)
and i have been watching u along time ago but im not sub, so... i gonna give u 1 sub 😐
It's good to see that F1 is making a stand, cancelled the plans to race there because of the official that had arranged it turned out to be corrupt. On the other hand, I am glad were still going to race in Saudi Arabia and Qatar. Some might say the irony is strong with this one...
I would like to say this, Japan is not a big rugby nation but in 2019 they provided for a spectacular performance, although Japan has a bigger variety of different people from different countries living there and they do have a national rugby team, they did a great job...
Southeast asian countries are difficult for car racing in general. Any kind of motorsport that is popular in the area is only motorcycle racing. Mostly because bikes are a lot more affordable to mess around with compared to cars unlike in the other part of the world especially Europe, Japan, and America
Would have loved to see Max’s line on sector 3
Sad for the loss of this. Now we're stuck with just one South East Asian race again when (or if) Singapore returns to the calendar, unless they decide to return to Sepang.
I wonder if they would increase the amount of tracks later on to like 25 or 24 to include older tracks and newer tracks
I can't believe they replaced this track or the Japanese track for the saudi arabia track it just shows how much F1 is about money
I just hope this track could be used for other series that aren't F1, we'll see.
I’ve tried like this track in the F1 game but just can’t seem to do it. There’s something about it that makes it not fun to drive on but can’t put my finger on it.
Having raced it in the game, it is a great shame we never saw a real race there. The track was (is) brilliant.
@swan989 exactly, it's a blast to drive especially sector 3 where it's kinda like Monaco swimming pool corners but extended.
I have no idea why they removed it from the F1 game though :( The track was ready for 2020 but missing for 2021.
Because the original calendar of 2020 had this track in it and this years calendar doesnt have this track so they removed it from the game
Can you make a new video updating on whether Vietnam will be on the calendar in 2023?
At school rn but gonna stream the video for the early watch time
Legend mate
I've still got my tickets for the 2020 race. Don't think I'll get a chance the use them.
Was this track modeled in one of the older Gran Turismo games?
I don't know if Vietnam comes to the calendar once again... But one thing i know is i did this track over 100 times in F1 2020 and i fucking hated it... It was always raining like hell and the track look more like a drag strip than a motorsport track
The circuit deserves atleast one race. All that money shouldn't go waste.
It’s a shame the race never happened. Although instead of putting up temporary buildings, I’m sure they could’ve used some of the underground tunnels they have left over from the 60’s and 70’s and turned them into F1’s first underground paddock area.
I was supposed to be in Vietnam during the race for our honeymoon so was deadset keen on going!
Middle east and america plating their foot in F1 but I still hope vietnam still gets a spot
It's a pity this never happened. I'm ambivalent about the track but Vietnam is a lovely country to visit and I'm sure Hanoi would have been great host city. Doesn't seem like Vietnamese government has much interest in the project currently.
Also, if Zhou gets F1 drive they're sure to make room for Chinese GP returning once China starts opening their borders, so that's going to be another spot taken in the future.
Such a shame that Vietnam wasn't able to hold a race.