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@@adi.24Because MacBooks are using ARM architecture. The absolute majority of games is developed for x86 (and Windows). That means that you need a translation layer that'll convert the x86 instructions to ARM. The same deal comes with the GPU API. Since Windows games usually use DirectX you need to translate the API calls to something that the MacOS can deal with (I'm assuming it'll be either Vulkan or Metal). Even though the solution Apple provided is very impressive all things considered, it's nowhere near as seamless as even something like the Steam Deck where you don't even realize you're gaming on Linux for the most part.
@@adi.24 I'm a gamer with gaming PC, gaming laptop, gaming consoles, and a MacBook pro. MacBook pro totally USELESS for gaming. Unless you count Candy Crush. It's called REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE. MacBook pro great for editing video though. That's why I have it. And your response is a typical apple fanboy response.
MacBooks have great CPUs but their hardware is not upgradeable and their OS is not for me. I’m a mechanical engineer developing CAD software and MacOS can’t even run the apps I use. Not to mention that gaming potential is so very low due to horrible software support. Also it would be interesting to see how the 7940hs compares when capped at 35-40W. That’s the sweet spot for the performance/watt for these chips.
"Not to mention that gaming potential is so very low due to horrible software support. " Well, that and the GPU required. Modern games require a lot of GPU power and a lot of CPU power.
@@johndoh5182 Apple chips have capable gpu cores inside them, it's not like the onboard graphics you have on an Intel chip. Apple doesn't care about gamers, that's all.
@@SaarN1337 Dude, there's a big difference between what an iGPU and DGPU can do, like they're not even in the same league. When a person needs a LOT of GPU compute they're buying a laptop that has a discrete GPU. I don't even know why that something that would be debated because that point is CLEAR. Do you think a person who's going to render a lot of video is going to do that on an APU? There are many tasks in the world of science that also run on GPU cores. Maybe because I wasn't SPECIFIC in saying I meant DGPU it was too hard for people to figure out. And actually in a gen or two both Intel and AMD are going to have iGPUs that are plenty capable of gaming with a laptop. Regardless, these Apple processors don't have the GPU power to run modern games. Even AMD and Intel, right now, don't have APUs that are good at running games, and this is why I thought it would be clearly understood I was talking about a discrete GPU "Modern games require a lot of GPU power and a lot of CPU power" Yeah sorry no company makes a single chip that can do both, in a laptop. AMD does pretty well with custom APUs made for consoles though.
Do you have this same argument against PC laptops? They are also locked down ultra low-end trash that can't be meaningfully upgraded besides framework. Ram upgrades don't count, nobody needs them, makes very little difference except in niche cases, and in those cases you should get a computer with enough ram to begin with. Please be sure to call out Asus, Lenovo, Razer, MSI etc for being just like Apple. (Minus the excellent battery life and incredibly high build quality.)
@@stevenswall my laptop beats a mid range gaming desktop that has RTX 4060 in it…wtf are you on about. “No one needs RAM upgrades”. Translation: I don’t need RAM upgrades. Many people upgrade their RAM either for their work or just to make games run faster on their laptops. Even if I agree that no one needs RAM updates, people do upgrade their storage or remove their SSDs to recover data when their system dies on them. Can’t do that on MacBooks too. How is Asus or Lenovo anything like Apple? They don’t serialise their parts and intentionally make repair difficult. They don’t charge an arm and a leg for storage or memory upgrades. Stop being a fanboy. MacBooks have great things about them. Best speakers in laptop, best trackpad, premium build quality, etc but those things are useless when the software doesn’t support the programs you use or when you want to use your laptop for gaming as well.
G14 4080 is $3800 and G14 4090 is $4700. The price is high because 312 MB/s microSD card reader. 2023 Legion slim 5 is cheaper because 37 MB/s full size SD card reader. The licence fees for faster card reader are extremely high.
Would be nice to include Windows and Linux code compile, because it varies a lot depending on what you are compiling on which OS ( Subsystem for Linux is still a lot slower compared to native Linux)
@@vali69 While I would LOVE that (because I love Gentoo), realistically it would be way too much work for Jarrod, and again, realistically, very few people would care.
Thanks Jarrod for slicing through Apple's crappy marketing. It's powerful and an improtant step towards the future but nowhere near as powerful as they claim. Great content as usual!
some ridiculous stats like 2x or 3x the performance of x86 architecture. granted at the time Apple Silicon first emerged it was as good as 2x performance, but now not so much as intel and amd have stepped up greatly especially AMD's latest 7-series ryzen chips@@utubekullanicisi
Would also be really interesting to see your comparison of apple m2 chip in macbook air and 7840u or hs in apu only laptop. That seem to be the place where amd really is finally competitive with apple silicon
For 3:25 a power limit scaling curve/graph would be interesting (not sure if there are any tools for macOS to get more than one point, I know there was one that let you disable turbo boost for Intel CPUs)
Excellent performance from 7940HS. Would've loved to see some numbers at 35W and 45W where it's performance/watt is at max. Apple M series is great but comes with compromises like RAM and storage upgrades. Also for 3D workloads, availability of Nvidia GPU comes in clutch.
@@g.eberling8700 No that totally depends on the actual laptop and it's idle states. 7940HS on the Asus TUF A16 managed 700+ mins of youtube playback. So watch out for how each OEM handles idles states. At the end of the day you can take things into hand.
@@Winnetou17 Yes he is not incorrect. You will find laptops with 6800H getting 10hrs of battery life but you'll also find laptops getting 4 hrs of battery life. The chip is efficient but the OEM software causes issues. Same applies to 7940HS.
Ideally we would want AMD 7840HS or 7940HS without dicreet GPU compared to MacBook Pro 14 with M2 pro chip. Price wise, these laptops are in the range with MacBook Air, but performance wise with M2 Pro.
@@JarrodsTech There's an LMG (well, Linus of LTT fame) joke I desperately want to drop, but it wouldn't be apropriate. We appreciate your dedication to accuracy, Jarrod 👏
It seems like which one of these will be the choice depends on the specific tasks you're gonna be performing on them. The MacBook is $600 more expensive than even the lowest spec-to-price ratio Windows laptop, but in some workloads at least it seems to justfiy the price in terms of price-to-performance, which was NOT the case when Apple was using off-the-shelf Intel/AMD parts that everyone else was also using.
I don't know why people are *still* comparing Cinebench scores between x86 & ARM CPUs. There is no NEON assembly optimization in Cinebench, but it does utilize the AVX hardware in Intel/AMD CPUs which gives them a huge efficiency & performance advantage. The M2 Max is handicapped in that test but still manages to perform so well
Hey Jarrod, did you make a battery life comparison of the two while under medium to heavy load? I never see these kind of stats and the only one I've seen are from notebook check, and under max load at full brightness, both laptops barely reach around an hour. Thanks!
@@az9az9az9 yeah by much better I meant much improved over previous intel. I know AMD still is better. But would like to see how close it is now. What's the battery life of me getting a g16 Vs a g14 etc (other than the screen etc)
i9-13950HX + 4080 can be found less than the M2 Max, yeah its gonna have to be plugged in for high performance but it will destroy the M2 Max when it does. Just depends what someone wants. For video editing, people usually dock the laptop to a monitor and speakers where this would not be a problem. 14" M2 Max is really niche use case. In fact I can't think of any! It makes no sense. If you want to do mobile editing rig a 16" is going to much nicer to work on. Then a PC can really flex. He should a 16" Mac to 16" PC challange !
Good review with clear statement and on-point technical information as usual. I would be interested to see how Tuxedo notebooks (Germany) would hold up. Basically, they promote Linux, but windows or no OS are also a configuration option. Tuxedo also offers gaming notebooks as well as workstations and 14 inch Laptops. They are also very competitive in terms of price and upgradeability, so another one of your high-quality comparison and test videos about their laptops would be really interesting. 😊
We have looked into Tuxedo in the past, but probably wouldn't again as their sister company XMG sells the same laptops but with Windows. our video from last year is here: th-cam.com/video/iJsUcVOmZAY/w-d-xo.html
Hi. I am looking to purchase the new Legion slim 5 14 inch... But I am not sure if to pay the extra $180 for the Ryzen 9 7940hs or stay with the Ryzen 7 7840hs, and put more $ in other specs. Is the performance worth the $$ for gaming?? Thanks
At 6 minutes you exported an h.264 video. This test was poorly documented because h.264 rendering is typically hardware accelerated. If done right, it barely taxes the cpu or gpu at all, instead hitting the video hardware accelerator. Please go into the menu in Resolve and show if you have gpu acceleration on and what you have selected. The results you've shown indicate that the mac was using hardware encode/decode, while the AMD system was using cpu only. Also, if the AMD system didn't have hardware acceleration. (it should with a 780m) but if you can't get it working, you should disable it on the mac to make it an apples to apples comparison. Please make this more transparent in the future so we can be sure we're seeing fair numbers.
I'm really enjoying the Ryzen 9 7940HS. I can do light gaming without worries. Nowadays MacBooks don't play well in games. They are just meant for productivity.
13700H in the Stealth 14 gets a higher Cinebench score than the 7940HS for me. Would also probably win by a decent margin in PugetBench. Just not on battery though.
@@makeurmomproud you're not going to find power-hungry HX parts in ANY 14-inch laptop. Kinda irrelevant for this comparison. Your only options at this size are the 13700H/13900H, 7940HS, or M2 Max.
@@makeurmomproud not to mention how Dragon Range parts like the 7845HX/7945HX absolutely chug through power in idle/light load, making them some of the worst machines in terms of battery life BY FAR for portable usage.
@@steph_on_yt you wouldn't take a HX cpu if you wanted battery life, I'm taking about raw performance. Moreover, 7940HS has better performance per watt than every Intel CPU. So if you wanted a better battery life you would be choosing HS and not HX.
Interesting tests. Macs certainly are efficient, but if you like your PC there is plenty to like. I was surprised by the H265 encode, the M2 has dedicated accelerators for that, I'm guessing they don't do H265 given the differences? Weird.
The M1 didn’t have the dedicated accelerators for H256 because H254 was the more popular option for videos when it was released. So they installed it in the M2
This is rather silly and obtuse to leave out price per perf metric. The AMD 7840U / 780M with 32GB 6400MHz lpddr5 ram can be had for $1400 CAD with taxes from Lenovo, I just bought one. The M2 Pro Max is $4700 with taxes. I can buy 3 AMD laptops for that price. the fact Apple isn't shamed for this enough is why we are now seeing $4000 Windows laptops as well
@@JarrodsTech Yes, as a standalone factor , but not as a metric. What would be good is to have output per $ like fps/$ is done for GPUs. Take Cinebench23 single core for instance : 7840u PRO scores 1807. If you account the 1/3 the price point, it's literally 3 times the output if you were to buy 3 of these for the price of a single Macbook.
Let's be honest - the only thing a mac is useful for is photoshop. So you're basically wasting all that potential, and considering the price, it's like driving a Lamborghini at walking speed on a mud road. Macs are a status symbol, not a serious work station for people who get things done.
Great review and good idea to test those test. If we stick closer to what a laptop should be, as in portability/performance, mac wins, though the price is dragging it down to a tie overall. Keep posting.
There is no good realistic comparison between Apple and X86-64 for laptop. There is no X86-64 laptop maker that will put the better CPUs/APUs in a 14" form. These systems aren't put together by Intel or AMD. This isn't even the best APU for instance that could go into a laptop. That belongs to Intel. Most laptop makers want a discrete GPU for their better laptops, and in which case if you were to put the best X86-64 based laptop up against the best MAX the results would be outlandishly different. Sticking with AMD, whenever running tasks that can push many threads this is about 50% what a 7945HX can do. And trying to say that a 16" laptop isn't portable is laughable. They are, and they don't have to be a hunky gaming laptop to run better hardware. So because none of these companies compete with Apple they just don't think in terms of putting together something to compete at a 14" form factor for top performance. They compete with EACH OTHER, such as ASUS against Acer, etc.......... And it's very much the same between AMD, Intel and Nvidia. They make parts to compete with each other for CPUs and GPUs, for what these laptop makers want. So because of how competition works for the consumers who are buying X86-64 based laptops, the notion to compete against Apple never enters the picture. And without getting into market research and just thinking about what I personally would want, I don't like 14" laptops. They're too small for my vision. I prefer 16" and 17". I don't know how different I am from other X86-64 users but for me portability isn't a concern because any laptop fit's in a small backpack and it's really only the gaming ones that push the faster GPUs that start to have noticeable weight. And even there, it's not that those ICs with more transistors HAVE to have a heavy cooling system. The laptop vendors could clock them a little slower and those would make outstanding laptops for any type of work.
@johndoh5182 Agree with you on many points, especially about 16-17 inch, though in my opinion portability is the key factor, so even an 16-17 inch laptop should weight up or less than 2 kg. Any laptop more than 2 kg, I clearly notice in an unpleasant way when I am carrying it. And I mean the laptop including the power supply.
Hello how can you claim that you're comparing two laptop CPUs but then show from your own testing that you can end up with wildly different result depending on whether you're testing the Zephyrus g14 and the razor blade 14 in the battery performance test at 3:31 ? Or did you make sure every other laptop with a 7940HS produced comparable results in every other test ?
Hello there, great effort in your videos. Recently since I was planning to buy a laptop I had been comparing the R7 7840HS and the R9 7940HS and found out that there's only a 10% boost in the R9 and that too is because it has higher clock speed than R7. But the cost difference is vast. Is this true? There are only very few comparisons of these 2 mobile processors online.
Really thank you for this comparison. Could you please make another comparison of a laptop chip against a desktop chip to see what are the real world differences? For exaple Ryzen 7 7840HS vs Ryzen 7 5800, 7 7700 etc. It would be really interesting to see what is the progress of these modern mobile chips.
in CB the 7940HS scores a bit slower compared to the R7 7700x. in MT it's 17.5k vs 19.9k and in ST it's 1832 vs 1969 (7700x results from techspot launch review). the 7940HS actually scores much closer to the 12600K in CB.
@@mariuspuiu9555 Sure, but these are not real world. I want for example a render process, a video transform, a code base compilation, a zip compression etc.
@@gigamoment real world doesn't really apply because half of the things you mentioned are GPU workloads. the Nvidia GPU in this laptop destroys the M2 Max GPU in renders. :)
You can buy a relatively small laptop with Ryzen 9 7945hx, which has 16 cores built on the same architecture and with 300MHz higher clocks, which means you can actually buy small AMD laptops with twice the multithreaded CPU performance. They are also way cheaper as, for example new Lenovo R9000P Arctic White comes with 16 core AMD CPU (R9 7945hx), RTX 4060 and 32GB DDR5 RAM for just 1400$.
Hey, J could you review the X3D laptop to same GPU, and equivalent CPU once you get your hands on it. Exited to see what can a bit of cache do to the 4090L GPU. Maybe Ryzen 7 also should have 3D for pushing like the 4060, 4070.
Optimization is king. Optimize heavily for one single architecture and you win. With the non-Mac PC market, it's a vast platter of architectures and generations to target for.
I would have loved a video which compares the G14 4090 with Mac pro m2 Max. The 2023 G14 model is on sale now and can be bought for $2800. The 4080 G14 is selling at $2300.
The free version of the Divinci resolve supports hardware acceleration on the Mac by default but not on the PC. It would be imported to know whether you were using the free version of DaVinci Resolve or if you were using the studio version. My guess is you were using the free version and that explains it all.
Weird, it would be also good to contrast how upgradable are the machines in the conclusion time, as practically is a Laptop class machine (apple MX) vs AMD based machines, overall how Apple's poor SSD design can lead to a dead laptop quicker
IMO a better comparison would have been the Apple Macbook Pro 14 M2 Max vs Asus G14 with 4090. Both is priced at $3300 and it would have been nice to see how much better the Asus G14 with 4090 is vs Macbook at the same price point.
In that case it will smoke the macbook, these apple fan boys can't accept that. So they get a less expensive laptop and compare it with the over priced macbook. .
@@sholmes_ttyy I don't understand when apple fan says easier to use when the file management is so arcaic, safari is far behind other browser, and multitasking there is way inferior to either linux or window. Not to mentioned that lack of compatability of many STEM softwares or heavy data science application and excel on Mac Os lacked many features that is in window. I really wonder what they meant that it supposedly "easier to use"
Man, imagine if AMD felt like making a “megachip”; an SoC-esque hybrid design with an 8C/16T CPU, a 20-24 CU integrated GPU, and each got a ~96MB tile of 3D V-cache. All under a single IHS. It’d make for one hell of a laptop / mini PC solution.
Can you compare the AMD 8945/7945 to the new Intel Core Ultra 9? Looking for a processor that can get me better life than the Intel 13900/14900 and isn't a Mac M processor, since I want to stay on Windows for Lightroom work and gaming.
Pretty impressive considering the M2 series chips are only stopgap chips because TSMC was not able to reach high enough efficiency with the 3nm process. They had the same exact problem with the A16 chip which was also supposed to be 3nm but instead got the 3rd gen 5nm a.k.a 4nm from TSMC. Apple went even further back for the M2 which is not even based on A16 but A15 from September 2021.
@@Winnetou17 I know, but I use Blender in my workflow and basically have to use a laptop. I don't really care that I have to plug-in my laptop because that's almost always possible. I was just stunned by the Blender performance of the M2 Max compared to the R9 7940HS in this comparison and wonder how Apple Silicon would compare to i9 CPUs
@@jakobbu Ok, fair enough. Haven't watched Jarrod that much lately, but maybe check the reviews for laptops with i9s, if they have the Blender test ? And if yes, ask ... somewhere... somehow, if the test was identical. If it was, you can compare the numbers directly. Worst case, hopefully there is or will be a i9 vs R9 competition and you'll see there the difference.
Another great video! One ask since I subscribed, could you please include World of Warcraft (Dragonflight) in the games you uses to test laptops? This game as a huge user base and we all need your advice :)🎉😅
Macs are kind of a niche product, you buy it for the ecosystem and top notch build quality, period. If you are on the go, there’s no better battery life, even if you need to run heavy stuff. I have both an i9/3070 M16 and a M2 Max 14” MacBook, I only use the Zephyrus if I’m gaming. Work (web+game dev) is better on the mac. Build quality is not even fair to compre though.
Can't avoid to realize about lack of 3d softwares comparison, like Maya. As 3d content creator, always hear good things about apple, but I'm photography and video editing. Don't even know if Unreal 5 is available in Mac, but would be great to know about 3d world comparisons with MacBooks.
UE5 just got a native port for ASi a few months ago. 3D animation software especially when ray tracing is utilize will be significantly faster on Nvidia laptops compared to anything else. We'll see what happens when/if the M3 generation adopts ray tracing, hopefully they do a good implementation of hardware acc. ray tracing and 3d animation software hop on board and utilize it.
I see, then we will wait for M3 and see if 3d world gets on board on Apple systems. Curious now to know about Unreal 5 performance in this M2 moments, hope Jarrod have it in mind for the next comparatives, along with Maya, Houdini, Blender and others. Even add a Linux comparison would be really interesting, although installation on Linux can be really tough, or at least, Maya has always been.
What performs better in gaming ASUS - TUF 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i7 with 16GB memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 or Lenovo 16" Legion Pro 5i 16IRX8 with i7 and rtx 4060? These laptops are at a good price. Can we expect more good offers than that?
Hello there jarrod i want to ask you a question i just bought new laptop asus tuf f15 and let it charge then when i want to use it like no gaming no nothing just checking settings or without doing nothing my pc drain 1 percent every 1minute i hope you answer me ❤
Does the battery actually completely drain in 60 minutes doing not much? If so that is bad, but it is pretty normal for the first % to disappear quickly after unplugging.
@@JarrodsTech before i ask i want to thank you very much for answering me brother the question: is there anything i can do in the asus armory crate to have more hours in battery like thing any to adjust there and sincerly thank you very much ❤
@@fatihababacha3693 You could enable iGPU mode, turn on the option that lowers screen refresh rate to 60Hz when you unplug the power, make sure overdrive is off.
@@JarrodsTech thank you jarrod i will do what you said and also when i turned off it was like 92%battery after 20 minute i turned on found it on 87% is this normale? but keep in mind that all of this happened before i do any updates or anything just after i unbox i charged it and turned on i did nothing i'm saying this cause i'm thinking it maybe need some bios or windows updates but i don't know.
"Do you actually need that much cpu power in a laptop" If that's not a rhetorical question, yes, yes I do. I doubt the majority of everyone else does though.
Possibly, if you look at the Blade or G14 reviews the cinebench graph shows high scores at much lower power levels, there is definitely diminishing returns at full power. I didn't bother doing any power limiting on AMD because I don't know how to control that on M2, so decided just to run both flat out.
i brought a16 tuf ryzen 9 7940hs 4070 while gaming it started boiling and sometimes even reach 95c so i returned it. I try to undervolt but still it would reach 85c and the laptop is too hot at the bottom part and not worth the price (1600$)
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they both look so alien i can't open a windows program to save my life. lol
yoga pro9i Intel i9+MiniLED vs macbook pro 14？
In a CPU Test… wouldn’t a m2 Pro deliver the same performance for much much less money
as far as i know macs cost for perfomance is way higher. like a macintosh computer that can "game" cost like 30k. @@Noine14159145
6:35 QUICK FYI JARRAD 👍😇your Flac Audio benchmark is ‘lower time is better’ yet you verbally state the Mac performed faster.
If you are a gamer, avoid Apple. I know they're working on some sort of workaround for gamers, but still.
May i ask your qualification to believe this comment ?…genuine question
@@adi.24find any game and check if:
a. it is compatible on MacOS
b. it runs at playable framerates (>50 fps)
@@adi.24Because MacBooks are using ARM architecture. The absolute majority of games is developed for x86 (and Windows). That means that you need a translation layer that'll convert the x86 instructions to ARM. The same deal comes with the GPU API. Since Windows games usually use DirectX you need to translate the API calls to something that the MacOS can deal with (I'm assuming it'll be either Vulkan or Metal).
Even though the solution Apple provided is very impressive all things considered, it's nowhere near as seamless as even something like the Steam Deck where you don't even realize you're gaming on Linux for the most part.
No need for qualification for such an obvious thing.@@adi.24
@@adi.24 I'm a gamer with gaming PC, gaming laptop, gaming consoles, and a MacBook pro. MacBook pro totally USELESS for gaming. Unless you count Candy Crush. It's called REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE. MacBook pro great for editing video though. That's why I have it. And your response is a typical apple fanboy response.
MacBooks have great CPUs but their hardware is not upgradeable and their OS is not for me. I’m a mechanical engineer developing CAD software and MacOS can’t even run the apps I use. Not to mention that gaming potential is so very low due to horrible software support. Also it would be interesting to see how the 7940hs compares when capped at 35-40W. That’s the sweet spot for the performance/watt for these chips.
"Not to mention that gaming potential is so very low due to horrible software support. "
Well, that and the GPU required. Modern games require a lot of GPU power and a lot of CPU power.
@@johndoh5182 Apple chips have capable gpu cores inside them, it's not like the onboard graphics you have on an Intel chip. Apple doesn't care about gamers, that's all.
@@SaarN1337 Dude, there's a big difference between what an iGPU and DGPU can do, like they're not even in the same league. When a person needs a LOT of GPU compute they're buying a laptop that has a discrete GPU. I don't even know why that something that would be debated because that point is CLEAR.
Do you think a person who's going to render a lot of video is going to do that on an APU? There are many tasks in the world of science that also run on GPU cores.
Maybe because I wasn't SPECIFIC in saying I meant DGPU it was too hard for people to figure out.
And actually in a gen or two both Intel and AMD are going to have iGPUs that are plenty capable of gaming with a laptop.
Regardless, these Apple processors don't have the GPU power to run modern games. Even AMD and Intel, right now, don't have APUs that are good at running games, and this is why I thought it would be clearly understood I was talking about a discrete GPU
"Modern games require a lot of GPU power and a lot of CPU power"
Yeah sorry no company makes a single chip that can do both, in a laptop. AMD does pretty well with custom APUs made for consoles though.
Do you have this same argument against PC laptops?
They are also locked down ultra low-end trash that can't be meaningfully upgraded besides framework.
Ram upgrades don't count, nobody needs them, makes very little difference except in niche cases, and in those cases you should get a computer with enough ram to begin with.
Please be sure to call out Asus, Lenovo, Razer, MSI etc for being just like Apple. (Minus the excellent battery life and incredibly high build quality.)
@@stevenswall my laptop beats a mid range gaming desktop that has RTX 4060 in it…wtf are you on about.
“No one needs RAM upgrades”.
Translation: I don’t need RAM upgrades. Many people upgrade their RAM either for their work or just to make games run faster on their laptops. Even if I agree that no one needs RAM updates, people do upgrade their storage or remove their SSDs to recover data when their system dies on them. Can’t do that on MacBooks too.
How is Asus or Lenovo anything like Apple? They don’t serialise their parts and intentionally make repair difficult. They don’t charge an arm and a leg for storage or memory upgrades. Stop being a fanboy. MacBooks have great things about them. Best speakers in laptop, best trackpad, premium build quality, etc but those things are useless when the software doesn’t support the programs you use or when you want to use your laptop for gaming as well.
at $3K I'm pretty sure you can get the zephyrus in either 4080 or 4090 variant, which is insane
G14 4080 is $3800 and G14 4090 is $4700. The price is high because 312 MB/s microSD card reader. 2023 Legion slim 5 is cheaper because 37 MB/s full size SD card reader. The licence fees for faster card reader are extremely high.
@@az9az9az9 huh? In my region a G14 4080 goes for sale at 2800usd
@@az9az9az9 Pretty sure people are using US price here and a G14 with 4090 is ~$3000
@@az9az9az9 in which country lol. We are talking about USD not AUD. G14 with a 4090 is 3k USD, the price of the fully upgraded M2!
@@theompman Estonia in Europe, € to USD. No better prices around Europe.
Would be nice to include Windows and Linux code compile, because it varies a lot depending on what you are compiling on which OS ( Subsystem for Linux is still a lot slower compared to native Linux)
LLVM was done under Linux on the Blade.
Can we get gentoo compile times next as benchmarks?
@@vali69 While I would LOVE that (because I love Gentoo), realistically it would be way too much work for Jarrod, and again, realistically, very few people would care.
@@Winnetou17 should I really have included /j at the end?
@@vali69 I only know -j :D
Though I guess that... yeah... I really didn't see it/though it's a joke.
Thanks Jarrod for slicing through Apple's crappy marketing. It's powerful and an improtant step towards the future but nowhere near as powerful as they claim. Great content as usual!
Thanks, what Apple can do on battery power is still very impressive!
What did they claim?
calm down
some ridiculous stats like 2x or 3x the performance of x86 architecture. granted at the time Apple Silicon first emerged it was as good as 2x performance, but now not so much as intel and amd have stepped up greatly especially AMD's latest 7-series ryzen chips@@utubekullanicisi
Hopefully this drives AMD and Intel to pick up their slack as I would not like to be at mercy of shitty, overpriced macbooks
That difference in the LLVM test narrows greatly in Linux, Jarrod
Would be very interesting to see how the next gen 45W (15/25 too) part from AMD that has 12 cores perform! especially in terms of efficiency
Oh is that a confirmed thing?
@@EminGT nope, but I hope it is.
Still got 4-5 months until Q1 next year when mobile CPUs fet released
@@EminGT Yes, later APUs will use Zen 5 and Zen 5c cores, letting AMD put more cores into the CPU
by then we should also get M3 from Apple. AMD should still have the performance advantage, but i doubt the efficiency will be close.
Unlike most other reviewers who think that a PC or a laptop is for gaming only, so thanks for keeping a comprehensive test.
Would also be really interesting to see your comparison of apple m2 chip in macbook air and 7840u or hs in apu only laptop. That seem to be the place where amd really is finally competitive with apple silicon
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For 3:25 a power limit scaling curve/graph would be interesting (not sure if there are any tools for macOS to get more than one point, I know there was one that let you disable turbo boost for Intel CPUs)
ditto. i feel like the M2 would still be ahead in efficiency, but just slightly since amd is very efficient when power capped.
Excellent performance from 7940HS. Would've loved to see some numbers at 35W and 45W where it's performance/watt is at max.
Apple M series is great but comes with compromises like RAM and storage upgrades.
Also for 3D workloads, availability of Nvidia GPU comes in clutch.
Honestly, 7940hs on battery lacks badly behind. It can't even beat 6900hs on battery.
@@g.eberling8700 You sure ? Where did you see that ?
@@g.eberling8700source: trust me bro
@@g.eberling8700 No that totally depends on the actual laptop and it's idle states. 7940HS on the Asus TUF A16 managed 700+ mins of youtube playback.
So watch out for how each OEM handles idles states.
At the end of the day you can take things into hand.
@@Winnetou17 Yes he is not incorrect. You will find laptops with 6800H getting 10hrs of battery life but you'll also find laptops getting 4 hrs of battery life. The chip is efficient but the OEM software causes issues.
Same applies to 7940HS.
Ideally we would want AMD 7840HS or 7940HS without dicreet GPU compared to MacBook Pro 14 with M2 pro chip.
Price wise, these laptops are in the range with MacBook Air, but performance wise with M2 Pro.
6:39 - I think you meant to say that it was slightly faster on the Ryzen.
Yes, oops.
@@JarrodsTech There's an LMG (well, Linus of LTT fame) joke I desperately want to drop, but it wouldn't be apropriate.
We appreciate your dedication to accuracy, Jarrod 👏
@@henryviiifake8244lol😂
@@henryviiifake8244 Are you saying that just because he attended LTX before the GamersNexus video and the working conditions scandal that followed?
If it makes any difference, I paid my own way to that event and only went because I wanted to hang out with other tech youtubers.
It seems like which one of these will be the choice depends on the specific tasks you're gonna be performing on them. The MacBook is $600 more expensive than even the lowest spec-to-price ratio Windows laptop, but in some workloads at least it seems to justfiy the price in terms of price-to-performance, which was NOT the case when Apple was using off-the-shelf Intel/AMD parts that everyone else was also using.
I don't know why people are *still* comparing Cinebench scores between x86 & ARM CPUs. There is no NEON assembly optimization in Cinebench, but it does utilize the AVX hardware in Intel/AMD CPUs which gives them a huge efficiency & performance advantage. The M2 Max is handicapped in that test but still manages to perform so well
Because if you want to use Cinebech on a Mac doesn't matter if it is optimized or not, you want only have best performance possible
Davinci Resolve 18.6 was just out, and has a GPU optimizer, so it would be interesting to do this test again.
6:35 No, it's slightly slower on the M2 MAX, not faster.
Hey Jarrod, did you make a battery life comparison of the two while under medium to heavy load? I never see these kind of stats and the only one I've seen are from notebook check, and under max load at full brightness, both laptops barely reach around an hour. Thanks!
6:35 QUICK FYI JARRAD 👍😇your Flac Audio benchmark is ‘lower time is better’ yet you verbally state the Mac performed faster.
Both excel at what they are supposed to excel, and both are built for two wholly different types of user.
Id love to see a similar video but of a 7840hs vs 13900h. For performance and Efficiency like battery life
the intel chip will get dogwalked as usual
@@defnotatroll apparently 13th gen has been much better with efficiency and battery life?
Intel is only little faster when blugged to the wall. On battery the 7940HS is a lot faster.
@@az9az9az9 yeah by much better I meant much improved over previous intel. I know AMD still is better. But would like to see how close it is now. What's the battery life of me getting a g16 Vs a g14 etc (other than the screen etc)
i9-13950HX + 4080 can be found less than the M2 Max, yeah its gonna have to be plugged in for high performance but it will destroy the M2 Max when it does. Just depends what someone wants. For video editing, people usually dock the laptop to a monitor and speakers where this would not be a problem. 14" M2 Max is really niche use case. In fact I can't think of any! It makes no sense. If you want to do mobile editing rig a 16" is going to much nicer to work on. Then a PC can really flex. He should a 16" Mac to 16" PC challange !
Thank you for the code compilation test!
Good review with clear statement and on-point technical information as usual. I would be interested to see how Tuxedo notebooks (Germany) would hold up. Basically, they promote Linux, but windows or no OS are also a configuration option. Tuxedo also offers gaming notebooks as well as workstations and 14 inch Laptops. They are also very competitive in terms of price and upgradeability, so another one of your high-quality comparison and test videos about their laptops would be really interesting. 😊
We have looked into Tuxedo in the past, but probably wouldn't again as their sister company XMG sells the same laptops but with Windows.
our video from last year is here: th-cam.com/video/iJsUcVOmZAY/w-d-xo.html
@@JarrodsTech Oh I had no idea, thank you! Will definitely look into that as well! 😊😊
Did you allow windows to go into a low power mode when unplugged?
Yes
Great video but just wanted to point out a mistake. You mistakenly said the m2 max was faster at 6:36
Hi. I am looking to purchase the new Legion slim 5 14 inch... But I am not sure if to pay the extra $180 for the Ryzen 9 7940hs or stay with the Ryzen 7 7840hs, and put more $ in other specs. Is the performance worth the $$ for gaming?? Thanks
No
Would love to see M2 max vs Proart studio book since both of these laptops are made for creators rather than gaming
At 6 minutes you exported an h.264 video. This test was poorly documented because h.264 rendering is typically hardware accelerated. If done right, it barely taxes the cpu or gpu at all, instead hitting the video hardware accelerator. Please go into the menu in Resolve and show if you have gpu acceleration on and what you have selected. The results you've shown indicate that the mac was using hardware encode/decode, while the AMD system was using cpu only.
Also, if the AMD system didn't have hardware acceleration. (it should with a 780m) but if you can't get it working, you should disable it on the mac to make it an apples to apples comparison.
Please make this more transparent in the future so we can be sure we're seeing fair numbers.
I would love for you to review the Zenbook pro 14, and i think it would be a great a compersion to the apple m2, keep up the good work!!
I'm really enjoying the Ryzen 9 7940HS. I can do light gaming without worries.
Nowadays MacBooks don't play well in games. They are just meant for productivity.
13700H in the Stealth 14 gets a higher Cinebench score than the 7940HS for me. Would also probably win by a decent margin in PugetBench. Just not on battery though.
Ryzen 7 7845HX obliterates the 13700H. 7940HS is low powered
@@makeurmomproud you're not going to find power-hungry HX parts in ANY 14-inch laptop. Kinda irrelevant for this comparison. Your only options at this size are the 13700H/13900H, 7940HS, or M2 Max.
@@makeurmomproud not to mention how Dragon Range parts like the 7845HX/7945HX absolutely chug through power in idle/light load, making them some of the worst machines in terms of battery life BY FAR for portable usage.
@@steph_on_yt you wouldn't take a HX cpu if you wanted battery life, I'm taking about raw performance. Moreover, 7940HS has better performance per watt than every Intel CPU. So if you wanted a better battery life you would be choosing HS and not HX.
@@makeurmomproud so why did you bring up the 7845HX in a comparison for portable 14-inch laptops?
Just to clarify, the Blender test was CPU only, right?
Yes
@@JarrodsTech thanks.
I was waiting for maxtech to do this very test. Yet jarrodstech would be legit unbiased
Maxtech is Gaytech.
Hey Jarred, do you think you would be able to get a 7940h (the china one with ThinkPad 14) and bench mark it against MacBook?
Are you gonna test the rtx 3050 mobile refresh the one with 6gb vram?
I have not been able to get one yet.
Interesting tests. Macs certainly are efficient, but if you like your PC there is plenty to like. I was surprised by the H265 encode, the M2 has dedicated accelerators for that, I'm guessing they don't do H265 given the differences? Weird.
The M1 didn’t have the dedicated accelerators for H256 because H254 was the more popular option for videos when it was released. So they installed it in the M2
An interesting piece if information would be to see whether either cpu got thermal throttled during any of the tests.
Love the insomnium tshirt. Great band \m/
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This is rather silly and obtuse to leave out price per perf metric. The AMD 7840U / 780M with 32GB 6400MHz lpddr5 ram can be had for $1400 CAD with taxes from Lenovo, I just bought one. The M2 Pro Max is $4700 with taxes. I can buy 3 AMD laptops for that price. the fact Apple isn't shamed for this enough is why we are now seeing $4000 Windows laptops as well
Price is discussed multiple times.
@@JarrodsTech Yes, as a standalone factor , but not as a metric. What would be good is to have output per $ like fps/$ is done for GPUs. Take Cinebench23 single core for instance : 7840u PRO scores 1807. If you account the 1/3 the price point, it's literally 3 times the output if you were to buy 3 of these for the price of a single Macbook.
Totally amazing video thank you for this
Let's be honest - the only thing a mac is useful for is photoshop. So you're basically wasting all that potential, and considering the price, it's like driving a Lamborghini at walking speed on a mud road. Macs are a status symbol, not a serious work station for people who get things done.
Always great analysis.
Thanks!
Imagine calling it great analysis when cb23 is used to compare x86 and apple.
Fuck off what a 🤡
What do you think about the M2 pro baseline for a coder?
Great job on the video! For me, the MacBook Pro with the M1 Pro is fantastic! Glad to see the M2 is just as good.
Great review and good idea to test those test. If we stick closer to what a laptop should be, as in portability/performance, mac wins, though the price is dragging it down to a tie overall. Keep posting.
There is no good realistic comparison between Apple and X86-64 for laptop.
There is no X86-64 laptop maker that will put the better CPUs/APUs in a 14" form. These systems aren't put together by Intel or AMD. This isn't even the best APU for instance that could go into a laptop. That belongs to Intel.
Most laptop makers want a discrete GPU for their better laptops, and in which case if you were to put the best X86-64 based laptop up against the best MAX the results would be outlandishly different. Sticking with AMD, whenever running tasks that can push many threads this is about 50% what a 7945HX can do. And trying to say that a 16" laptop isn't portable is laughable. They are, and they don't have to be a hunky gaming laptop to run better hardware.
So because none of these companies compete with Apple they just don't think in terms of putting together something to compete at a 14" form factor for top performance. They compete with EACH OTHER, such as ASUS against Acer, etc.......... And it's very much the same between AMD, Intel and Nvidia. They make parts to compete with each other for CPUs and GPUs, for what these laptop makers want.
So because of how competition works for the consumers who are buying X86-64 based laptops, the notion to compete against Apple never enters the picture. And without getting into market research and just thinking about what I personally would want, I don't like 14" laptops. They're too small for my vision. I prefer 16" and 17". I don't know how different I am from other X86-64 users but for me portability isn't a concern because any laptop fit's in a small backpack and it's really only the gaming ones that push the faster GPUs that start to have noticeable weight. And even there, it's not that those ICs with more transistors HAVE to have a heavy cooling system. The laptop vendors could clock them a little slower and those would make outstanding laptops for any type of work.
@johndoh5182 Agree with you on many points, especially about 16-17 inch, though in my opinion portability is the key factor, so even an 16-17 inch laptop should weight up or less than 2 kg. Any laptop more than 2 kg, I clearly notice in an unpleasant way when I am carrying it. And I mean the laptop including the power supply.
This is a far better laptop comparison video than MrWhostheboss video that compared Dell XPS with An Apple Macbook
Yea I hated that comparison lol
Lol Mrwhosetheboss, that guy makes tech videos for 9 year olds.
that was a sponsor video I guess
Hello how can you claim that you're comparing two laptop CPUs but then show from your own testing that you can end up with wildly different result depending on whether you're testing the Zephyrus g14 and the razor blade 14 in the battery performance test at 3:31 ? Or did you make sure every other laptop with a 7940HS produced comparable results in every other test ?
the biggest reason ARM MACs excel at video editing even without proper support is their dedicated media engine, not so much the GPU
It actually does well with codecs not supported by the media engine, i.e. Canon, RED, Blackmagic RAWs.
Hello there, great effort in your videos. Recently since I was planning to buy a laptop I had been comparing the R7 7840HS and the R9 7940HS and found out that there's only a 10% boost in the R9 and that too is because it has higher clock speed than R7. But the cost difference is vast. Is this true? There are only very few comparisons of these 2 mobile processors online.
Finally a video that compares M2 with AMD 7040!
Really thank you for this comparison. Could you please make another comparison of a laptop chip against a desktop chip to see what are the real world differences? For exaple Ryzen 7 7840HS vs Ryzen 7 5800, 7 7700 etc. It would be really interesting to see what is the progress of these modern mobile chips.
in CB the 7940HS scores a bit slower compared to the R7 7700x. in MT it's 17.5k vs 19.9k and in ST it's 1832 vs 1969 (7700x results from techspot launch review). the 7940HS actually scores much closer to the 12600K in CB.
@@mariuspuiu9555 Sure, but these are not real world. I want for example a render process, a video transform, a code base compilation, a zip compression etc.
@@gigamoment real world doesn't really apply because half of the things you mentioned are GPU workloads. the Nvidia GPU in this laptop destroys the M2 Max GPU in renders. :)
@@mariuspuiu9555 I don't really care. Most CPUs these days have igpu. Just a test with CPU+igpu only.
I was hoping Ryzen 9 7940HS on Cinebench R23 power scaling like you did with Ryzen 7 6800H last gen same 8C/12T, are you planning to do this again?
You can buy a relatively small laptop with Ryzen 9 7945hx, which has 16 cores built on the same architecture and with 300MHz higher clocks, which means you can actually buy small AMD laptops with twice the multithreaded CPU performance. They are also way cheaper as, for example new Lenovo R9000P Arctic White comes with 16 core AMD CPU (R9 7945hx), RTX 4060 and 32GB DDR5 RAM for just 1400$.
Wish there was a mini pc with 7945hx out there, can't find any.
the massive difference in cache may explain the code compilation result
Have you ever completed a real test with the devices or just run pure benchmarks? You also completely ignored computer games.
Most of it is benchmarks so that they are fairly comparable. There is no point in covering games in this video.
@@JarrodsTech There's no point testing games if you want to make the Apple M2 Max look better than it actually is, right.
We need to compare not only characteristics, but price too)
Hey, J could you review the X3D laptop to same GPU, and equivalent CPU once you get your hands on it. Exited to see what can a bit of cache do to the 4090L GPU. Maybe Ryzen 7 also should have 3D for pushing like the 4060, 4070.
Optimization is king. Optimize heavily for one single architecture and you win. With the non-Mac PC market, it's a vast platter of architectures and generations to target for.
I would have loved a video which compares the G14 4090 with Mac pro m2 Max. The 2023 G14 model is on sale now and can be bought for $2800. The 4080 G14 is selling at $2300.
The free version of the Divinci resolve supports hardware acceleration on the Mac by default but not on the PC. It would be imported to know whether you were using the free version of DaVinci Resolve or if you were using the studio version. My guess is you were using the free version and that explains it all.
Either you're just amazing, or this is destiny, exactly the two laptops I've been comparing.
Can we see 13900H v M2 max comparison?
i was want this Video Thanks Jarrod's Tech ❤❤❤❤❤❤
RYZEN FTW!!! I cant wait to see their new RDNA4/5/6 APu's, with 1060ti/2050 performance!
Weird, it would be also good to contrast how upgradable are the machines in the conclusion time, as practically is a Laptop class machine (apple MX) vs AMD based machines, overall how Apple's poor SSD design can lead to a dead laptop quicker
Its not only 7940 vs m2, but windows vs mac os to
IMO a better comparison would have been the Apple Macbook Pro 14 M2 Max vs Asus G14 with 4090. Both is priced at $3300 and it would have been nice to see how much better the Asus G14 with 4090 is vs Macbook at the same price point.
In that case it will smoke the macbook, these apple fan boys can't accept that. So they get a less expensive laptop and compare it with the over priced macbook. .
@@sholmes_ttyy I don't understand when apple fan says easier to use when the file management is so arcaic, safari is far behind other browser, and multitasking there is way inferior to either linux or window. Not to mentioned that lack of compatability of many STEM softwares or heavy data science application and excel on Mac Os lacked many features that is in window. I really wonder what they meant that it supposedly "easier to use"
Man, imagine if AMD felt like making a “megachip”; an SoC-esque hybrid design with an 8C/16T CPU, a 20-24 CU integrated GPU, and each got a ~96MB tile of 3D V-cache. All under a single IHS. It’d make for one hell of a laptop / mini PC solution.
might be closer than what you think :D
Could you please add some scientific app speed comparison (Matlab, Wolfram, python etc) to the next episodes? Thank you for your great videos!
I planned on including Matlab on this, but wasn't able to get the licence in time. I have it now for future though.
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@JarrodsTech evening from gold coast
Which laptop should i choose
Asus tuf gaming f17:
Rtx 2050
8GB RAM
I5-11400H
OR
Acer predator triton 700
Gtx 1080 ti
16GB RAM
I7-7700HQ
Can you compare the AMD 8945/7945 to the new Intel Core Ultra 9? Looking for a processor that can get me better life than the Intel 13900/14900 and isn't a Mac M processor, since I want to stay on Windows for Lightroom work and gaming.
Pretty impressive considering the M2 series chips are only stopgap chips because TSMC was not able to reach high enough efficiency with the 3nm process. They had the same exact problem with the A16 chip which was also supposed to be 3nm but instead got the 3rd gen 5nm a.k.a 4nm from TSMC. Apple went even further back for the M2 which is not even based on A16 but A15 from September 2021.
Are you also planning on doing a M2 Pro or Max to i9 13th Gen comparison?
It seems a bit like apples to oranges (pun intended). The i9s are not low power.
@@Winnetou17 I know, but I use Blender in my workflow and basically have to use a laptop. I don't really care that I have to plug-in my laptop because that's almost always possible. I was just stunned by the Blender performance of the M2 Max compared to the R9 7940HS in this comparison and wonder how Apple Silicon would compare to i9 CPUs
@@jakobbu Ok, fair enough. Haven't watched Jarrod that much lately, but maybe check the reviews for laptops with i9s, if they have the Blender test ? And if yes, ask ... somewhere... somehow, if the test was identical. If it was, you can compare the numbers directly.
Worst case, hopefully there is or will be a i9 vs R9 competition and you'll see there the difference.
@@Winnetou17 Yeah, I've also thought about that, Would probably be the better option.
Have you tested the battery life of the razer blade 14 with 60Hz or 120Hz refresh rate? That should make some difference
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Still waiting to get mine 👀
Hi! Can you make a review for MSI BRAVO 15 or 17? They are quite unike and hella sheap, it would be interesting to know more about them
Another great video! One ask since I subscribed, could you please include World of Warcraft (Dragonflight) in the games you uses to test laptops? This game as a huge user base and we all need your advice :)🎉😅
Why haven't you reviewed any RX65000M Laptop yet?
Macs are kind of a niche product, you buy it for the ecosystem and top notch build quality, period.
If you are on the go, there’s no better battery life, even if you need to run heavy stuff. I have both an i9/3070 M16 and a M2 Max 14” MacBook, I only use the Zephyrus if I’m gaming. Work (web+game dev) is better on the mac. Build quality is not even fair to compre though.
If you power limit the 7940HS the efficiency will greatly increase.
this razer laptops are worst amd battery powerd laptops, other 14inch amd perform better on battery .
That is true, but if you power limit Mac the efficiency also increases.
Apple silicon is amazingly efficient at low power
@@Johnassu Yeah but for thin laptops the TDP target is usually 25W-35W where the comparisons should be made. Razer’s power limit is way too high.
Did not expect to see my guy wearing an Insomnium shirt lol
battery life of the AMD laptop also similar to the M2 macbook ?
Wait, isn't measuring power draw from the wall a useless metric when on a laptop?
No. Power draw from a wall at 100% battery is comparable to system power draw
Good test, amd is handicapped without lpddr5 compared to m2 max
Magic of ARM processor
Can't avoid to realize about lack of 3d softwares comparison, like Maya. As 3d content creator, always hear good things about apple, but I'm photography and video editing.
Don't even know if Unreal 5 is available in Mac, but would be great to know about 3d world comparisons with MacBooks.
Unreal 5 is now available for mac as a universal binary. Unity has been available for a while as both universal and Mac Silicon native.
UE5 just got a native port for ASi a few months ago. 3D animation software especially when ray tracing is utilize will be significantly faster on Nvidia laptops compared to anything else. We'll see what happens when/if the M3 generation adopts ray tracing, hopefully they do a good implementation of hardware acc. ray tracing and 3d animation software hop on board and utilize it.
I see, then we will wait for M3 and see if 3d world gets on board on Apple systems. Curious now to know about Unreal 5 performance in this M2 moments, hope Jarrod have it in mind for the next comparatives, along with Maya, Houdini, Blender and others. Even add a Linux comparison would be really interesting, although installation on Linux can be really tough, or at least, Maya has always been.
hi can do a video on well-available laptops for multiple display out in RTX 4080 - 90 series , thanks
i know its not related to this video but , whats the best RTX4060 laptop currently ?
Probably Asus ProArt and Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 6.
I've been eating for direct comparisons like this. Thank You Jarrod
worst performing 14inch amd vs apple , bad guy .
@@vmafarah9473 tbh honest the crowd is slightly better but not by much. Windows laptops on hardware are disappointing
What performs better in gaming ASUS - TUF 15.6" Gaming Laptop - Intel Core i7 with 16GB memory - NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070 or Lenovo 16" Legion Pro 5i 16IRX8 with i7 and rtx 4060? These laptops are at a good price. Can we expect more good offers than that?
That's bad comparing 16mb cache cpu with 48mb cpu. U could do it on 15" with an ryzen9 7945hx for a more fair comparision.
Hello there jarrod i want to ask you a question i just bought new laptop asus tuf f15 and let it charge then when i want to use it like no gaming no nothing just checking settings or without doing nothing my pc drain 1 percent every 1minute i hope you answer me ❤
Does the battery actually completely drain in 60 minutes doing not much? If so that is bad, but it is pretty normal for the first % to disappear quickly after unplugging.
@@JarrodsTech before i ask i want to thank you very much for answering me brother the question: is there anything i can do in the asus armory crate to have more hours in battery like thing any to adjust there and sincerly thank you very much ❤
@@fatihababacha3693 You could enable iGPU mode, turn on the option that lowers screen refresh rate to 60Hz when you unplug the power, make sure overdrive is off.
@@JarrodsTech thank you jarrod i will do what you said and also when i turned off it was like 92%battery after 20 minute i turned on found it on 87% is this normale? but keep in mind that all of this happened before i do any updates or anything just after i unbox i charged it and turned on i did nothing i'm saying this cause i'm thinking it maybe need some bios or windows updates but i don't know.
"Do you actually need that much cpu power in a laptop"
If that's not a rhetorical question, yes, yes I do. I doubt the majority of everyone else does though.
I was really hoping for better power efficiency from Phoenix.
Maybe at a different power level?
Possibly, if you look at the Blade or G14 reviews the cinebench graph shows high scores at much lower power levels, there is definitely diminishing returns at full power. I didn't bother doing any power limiting on AMD because I don't know how to control that on M2, so decided just to run both flat out.
i brought a16 tuf ryzen 9 7940hs 4070 while gaming it started boiling and sometimes even reach 95c
so i returned it.
I try to undervolt but still it would reach 85c and the laptop is too hot at the bottom part and not worth the price (1600$)
Great video! Thanks a lot for thinking about us content creators! I would love it if you could do the same video but with intel added in it?
Can you review helios 16 (not neo) please
Acer won't send it, but they sent the Helios 18 and we will start on it soon.
The problem for the Mac is that you can get the ASUS G14 for half the cost.
LOL! and half the value