.303 bullets (not the Mark VII, anyway) do not "mushroom! They tumble inside the victim and come out backwards (like most other rifle bullets do). The .303 has lighter packing in the nose under the coper jacket to help it tumble. Some war production rounds used wood pulp for this.
The MkV11 ball was, and is a vicious load. It's long for caliber/ weight and the inner nose cavity allows the core to move forward on impact, the pulp one anyway, and it upsets the balance. It begins its pitch/ yaw cycle very soon after entry. The Russian 5.45 round uses this same principle. It will tumble in an arm. Quite rude really. Emmagee's didn't use MkVII. They use MkVIIZ which was nitrocellulose instead of cordite. Cordite is HORRIBLY erosive and would ruin a barrel extremely fast. Nitrocellulose is much kinder.
@@marksellers4875 Is that why the Russian 5.56 round is called 'the poison bullet'? I have shot a SMLE .303 as a cadet in the early 80s it seemed like shooting a bazooka then !
@zulubeatz1 Not exactly. The tissue disruption is so extensive that it quickly leads to infections. The 5.45 x 39, Russian, starts its pitch/yaw so quickly, it's tumbling in an arm. It's been known to leave a star pattern tear type exit. And very wide... Like the original M193 Ball 5.56 did in the 1-14 twist. The 7.62 Nato, M80 Ball, begins its cycle after 8-11 inches of penetration. The 5.45 and MK7 have a ( sometimes filled) hollow in the nose of the jacket. On contact, the core slams forward, upsetting the balance of the projectile and accelerating the start of the pitch/ yaw. Aka tumble.
@@marksellers4875 My lord, you have some dark expertise here. How does the Russian round do against body armour ? Would a tumbling round be less effective ?
@zulubeatz1 I've not seen tests, but I suppose it would depend on the type. Ceramic tiles? Forget it. The round would disintegrate. Kevlar? While it wouldn't disintegrate, it would be stopped. Most likely because of the fibrous nature of Kevlar, and if it did start to tumble, the increased frontal area would hamper penetration. Barrier penetration would not be particularly good in the 5.45 or 5.56. Mass counts. Go big( er) or flush 'em with a flanking move. " SUPRESSING FIRE!!!"
A bit of information look up where Hirum Maxim came from, the Yanks didn't want his gun so he went to Europe there by giving Germany the MG. The Poms look the Maxim gun and came up with the Vickers. So if people are going to throw blame look to the Yanks
.303 bullets (not the Mark VII, anyway) do not "mushroom! They tumble inside the victim and come out backwards (like most other rifle bullets do). The .303 has lighter packing in the nose under the coper jacket to help it tumble. Some war production rounds used wood pulp for this.
The MkV11 ball was, and is a vicious load. It's long for caliber/ weight and the inner nose cavity allows the core to move forward on impact, the pulp one anyway, and it upsets the balance. It begins its pitch/ yaw cycle very soon after entry.
The Russian 5.45 round uses this same principle. It will tumble in an arm. Quite rude really.
Emmagee's didn't use MkVII. They use MkVIIZ which was nitrocellulose instead of cordite. Cordite is HORRIBLY erosive and would ruin a barrel extremely fast. Nitrocellulose is much kinder.
@@marksellers4875 Is that why the Russian 5.56 round is called 'the poison bullet'? I have shot a SMLE .303 as a cadet in the early 80s it seemed like shooting a bazooka then !
@zulubeatz1
Not exactly. The tissue disruption is so extensive that it quickly leads to infections.
The 5.45 x 39, Russian, starts its pitch/yaw so quickly, it's tumbling in an arm. It's been known to leave a star pattern tear type exit. And very wide...
Like the original M193 Ball 5.56 did in the 1-14 twist.
The 7.62 Nato, M80 Ball, begins its cycle after 8-11 inches of penetration.
The 5.45 and MK7 have a ( sometimes filled) hollow in the nose of the jacket. On contact, the core slams forward, upsetting the balance of the projectile and accelerating the start of the pitch/ yaw. Aka tumble.
@@marksellers4875 My lord, you have some dark expertise here. How does the Russian round do against body armour ? Would a tumbling round be less effective ?
@zulubeatz1
I've not seen tests, but I suppose it would depend on the type.
Ceramic tiles? Forget it. The round would disintegrate.
Kevlar? While it wouldn't disintegrate, it would be stopped. Most likely because of the fibrous nature of Kevlar, and if it did start to tumble, the increased frontal area would hamper penetration.
Barrier penetration would not be particularly good in the 5.45 or 5.56.
Mass counts. Go big( er) or flush 'em with a flanking move.
" SUPRESSING FIRE!!!"
Brilliant, love this.
Should have put the clay at 100 yds as the damage done at point blank range is realistic
Archie duke should not have been shot for an ostrich
even if he was hungry
Well possibly Baldrick.
@martytrueblood5902
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That was a good one!
4:55 "Hobbycraft" ["Hobby Lobby" for Americans] did well that day!
Looks like ex-Greek ammo. Good stuff that, eh?
I noticed that also. That was excellent non-corrosive and reloadable ammo.
its pointless getting killed
A bit of information look up where Hirum Maxim came from,
the Yanks didn't want his gun so he went to Europe there by giving Germany the MG. The Poms look the Maxim gun and came up with the Vickers. So if people are going to throw blame look to the Yanks
Your a little light in the brain😂
Sad to see anyone giddy about this shit. Never been in a fight for his life. Host is a tourist.