What's the Difference Between a GOOD Knife and a BAD Knife? (LONG Discussion / Ramble)
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I was told my $290 Ultratech was stupid. I’m like dude. You have two old boats and natty light in the fridge. That’s stupid but we like what we like.
Do I know the difference between a good knife and a bad knife? Yes. Am I going to watch this video to give MC another view on his video? Absolutely! Keep up the good work and thank you for the quality and care you put into your videos! A tip to the folks who are new to the hobby: Subscribe and hit the bell icon. You will not be disappointed.
I remember as recently as 5 years ago I thought a 30 dollar knife was expensive and had no clue why someone would pay hundreds for a knife. Then I got a benchmade from the 90s and I started researching other knife stuff because I didn’t even know what a Benchmade was. Now 300 isn’t necessarily too much for a knife. I now try to help my friends realize what a good knife is even if I have to gift it to them because they can’t see spending the money. I recently got a zt350 serrated on the secondary market for a really good price I then had my buddy pay me half what it cost which is what he would normally spend on a pocket knife and told him to use it like it was the $30 smith and Wesson he was looking at and not to worry about what it actually cost
The intro knife “story” makes me think that imaginary guy also asks people “why are you driving a 1996 Hyundai? A Lamborghini are much better car.”
newcomer to the knife community, just recently got into it after 3D printing my own trainer balisong, and decided to buy a real OTF knife. I really enjoy this kind of content, its very useful.
Suggesting I can have a scorpion or dragon knife whose only purpose is to open boxes speaks to my soul.
Always nice to see someone take on explain the basics. There's always someone who needs to hear it.
The Bushmaster from Budk was often offered at $5 and is a very decent 1095 Sodbuster. Jodie (Big Red EDC) used to give them away (he sent me one) as his ‘channel knife’. I collect Sodbusters and can attest that is a very a very capable example of the patten, every bit as good, or better than a $35 Case.
I find of all the knives I own it’s the cheaper ( $35 ) SRM ( D2) knife that I carry the most. It’s lightweight with very secure grip and deep pocket clip. It holds an edge well enough. I changed the edge to 15° and that’s sharp enough for any use I need.
When I was in the military I bought a Gerber Gator in a PX.
I don't know where I put it, but inexplicably my brother now has one exactly like it.
A couple of months ago, I was looking to replace it, and tumbled into this rabbit hole of folding knives. I thought Gerber was the be all and end all of folding knives. I now have a new folding knife, but not a Gerber. I decided to go with a Chris Reeve Large Sebenza 31 with black micarta inlays. I also purchased a 7" Chris Reeve Green Beret in Flat Dark Earth, and am looking at a Chris Reeve Mnandi with a Damascus blade as a gentleman's knife. And I think I'll be done with purchasing knives after that, having an EDC, a fixed blade, and a gentleman's knife. Not really looking to get into knife collecting, just wanted a couple of knives that can fulfill my need for different jobs.
I valued your vids, but this one really solidified my positive opinion of your channel - this wholesome approach is what is much needed in any community, especially in the knife one. Kudos!
I started with this obsession, (unknowingly), by doing research for a decent budget knife. I ended up buying a Rat 1 in aus8. It's a knife I highly recommend to newcomers. Over five years later it's still a solid tool. More than got what I paid for.
That is the knife i started with a year ago. Recently upgraded to a griptilian.
I started with the same knife. Love it.
That is exactly how I started a few years ago, however I got the cutjack and more recently finally got a rat 2. Wish I had gone with the rat 2 to begin with.
@@anthonyschutz7201 I bought a steel will knife a while back, don't remember the model, but I wasn't happy with it and returned it. Never tried another.
@@srslywhattf how do you like it? I honestly haven't loved benchmade in the past, but I haven't tried many
I think the reason why so many of us are tempted to be dismissive or even derisive toward "mall ninjas" is because we don't want to admit that, when we were 13, we *absolutely* were mall ninjas. I would have wanted both of the mall ninja knives in this video when I was that age. I still have the absolute trash "Rambo" survival knife I got at the county fair when I was about that age. If you think blade play is a bad thing on a folder, it's so much worse on a fixed blade!
So... much like the old saying "we hate most in others what we hate about ourselves" it can be tempting to mock in others what are most embarrassed about ourselves. And I commend you for not falling into that trap.
One of my coworkers carries straight junk gas station knives for work lol. He said he's never spent more than 20 on a knife. When I showed him my first microtech ultratech he was in awe and was like "Wow that's really nice and cool" I said "Yeah it is. How much do you think it costs?" He said "Idk it looks pretty expensive maybe like $70?" I just looked at him and laughed 😂😂. He was shook when I told him it was 300. I had to explain to him in detail why it cost so much. He thought 70 for knife was expensive lol.
My fiance has a 5yr old little boy. He & I watched his first zombie movie together around Halloween. The zombie movie was a little scary for him , from that moment on zombie defense was a top priority. When Christmas came around the little guy got me a Zombie hunter kukuri knife & a Zombie hunter sword (both are bright lime green & black just like the pocket knife in this video) . He told me that my guns were too loud & the noise would attract more zombies but with the zombie hunter sword I could kill all the zombies quietly & we would all be safe🤣👍
A year ago I thought all knives over $25 are overpriced :D Shows what I knew back then.
Haha they're adorable. That's what it's all about
You know a video is good when it’s 30 minutes long and you watch all of it
I spent a week at my daughter's house and the only knife I had was her S&W Extreme OPS serrated tanto. Severe lock stick and needed two hand opening with a tip down carry. I wanted to slit my throat with it after the first day... went to Bass Pro Shop and got a Kershaw Oso Sweet on the 4th day. The S&W went directly in the trash. I love your simple back to basis videos even though I feel I'm well versed, I always find them interesting! Thanks for the full spectrum you provide!
You should put these knife beginner vids into a So You’re New To Knives playlist so people can link people to it 👍
Good idea
Proof that you are not a knife snob. I can appreciate that.
I love my mora's...
My show off knife is a Helle.
Please more videos like this! Makes it so much easier to explain my obsession...er...hobby
Just discovered your channel and I'm learning a ton. Thank you for the great content.
I think the blade on the opinel is a full convex. I could be wrong though. It is super thin though.
A side note on the Gerber Fast. I think Walmart mainly sells the tan ones now. You know, so your foes in the desert won't see it coming!
Yup I got one, I only carry spyderco now.
Thanks for the positive and very non judgemental view! While most are looking for quality, some may just be looking for a decoration? Anyway, I rather enjoyed it all the way through. 🗡️👍
Yaaaaa the first knife I remember buying when I was a kid was from the local gas station. It was a fixed blade with an eagle pommel and eagle graphics on the plastic sheath. I think it cost a whole $6.99. I remember when $15 was super expensive for a knife 😂
Nick Shabazz says it best, "opinions can't be wrong".
I know I'm crazy, but I still think Opinels with a more exotic wood handle are beautiful in their natural simplicity. I would, however, thoroughly enjoy seeing better blade materials and finish on them.
A good knife is one that cuts, and holds a working edge in correlation with your use
Joshua ...I agree 100
Not true. Ive had knives with a good edge, but a terrible lockup. Wobbly blade play, bad grinds, subpar weak hardware etc can make a knife bad regardless of it being sharp
Imo all depends on your taste and preferences and above all your pocket. Buy the ones that you really like and enjoy them. There is never the best of all in anything as real life is full of compromises and nothing is perfect.
As long as it’s solid enough to do what you need, plus a little more, it’s fine. I carry a small seb but I consider a basic frn/vg10 spyderco to be a great knife! It’s better than what most carry.. hell even Kershaw, who I personally dislike is totally acceptable. I Carried a sanrenmu 7010 for years and loved it. I promote the thing all the time.
Bad would be your clunky, generally poorly made affairs from smith&Wesson, ozark trail, ect.
Worse would be the crap you find at the flea market, gas station, dollar stores, ect..
But ultimately price has nothing to do with it, as proven by my sanrenmu.. that thing is excellent for the $7 I paid and I could probably carry it for another decade or two. I carry the crk because it really is just the knife I consider perfect for me.. ontop of that, I also just like small, finely made things.. especially things meant to be used and carried daily. I also love watching things get worn in over time and the seb is great at that. It also caught my eye In a way that no other knife has.. the ZT 0450 came close, but it had a handful of little things that kept me from wanting to carry it all the time.
I remember watching your don’t hand these knives to people 3 years ago and now I’m back and still fathoming over your knives
I pulled out a soft case full of thumb drives that I had stuck in a drawer for probably the last couple years. In one pouch was a very small folding knife. I pulled it out and the handle was kind of sticky. That's a feature of a good knife, right?
Lets be real if there wasn't an inner mall ninja in us all cold steel wouldn't be around.
I’m new to the knife world and I wouldn’t buy anything until I did some research I have learned quite a bit from your videos so thank you. However the more you like knives the more you want the better stuff. And that will cost some decent money. I do believe you do get what you paid for but I have come to realize that for around $70 Canadian dollars not American dollars you can get a knife that is decent and will work for the most part well. But if you want the better blade steel the better handles the better way the knife comes out and closes these are all things that can cost a lot more money. Benchmade for example they really don’t sell anything under $150 Canadian dollars and that’s fine but not everyone wants to spend that money let alone more then that. Anyway I babble on for what I have learned an Ontario rat 2 looks like a good decent knife for around $50 so I think that knife would definitely be a good buy.
Opinels are like Rufus from Kill Bill 2. Unassuming, not flashy, but 100% capable.
This is a great video idea, man. There's a lot of knowledgeable throughout this whole thing. Really clear and concise information. I definitely learned some shit.
Great vid buddy and necessary for newbies. 👍
Great general comments. I have 3 knives. I only have two benchmade doug ritter griptilians, one in S30V and another in M390 and a Quiet Carry IQ knife in VG10. I see knives as tools only.
I've had friends who were really into mall ninja stuff, but interestingly I never really was.
Where I started was with knives from companies like Frost Cutlery & United Cutlery (I entered my teens in the early-mid 90s). At the time, that's what I thought high-end knives were.
I find that interesting because a lot of the designs I was into really mirrored what many people consider great knife designs nowadays. I didn't gravitate towards crazy designs, I went toward more streamlined designs that are popular now. I just didn't realize that better materials were available, often at not much higher prices than what I was paying for the lower-end blades I was buying.
Kershaw is hands-down the company that got my attention in terms of better quality. My first "real" knife was a Kershaw Leek 1660BIV that I still have, & I didn't buy that until about age 21. At the time I didn't even know ZT existed. I still have never owned a ZT, because I honestly STILL didn't know they existed until just a few years ago. I would've bought one by now if I didn't run so fast torward Microtech & Spyderco, then eventually Benchmade, & most recently Hogue.
So my knife collecting has really ramped up only in the last 6 months or so, even though I've been a "knife guy" since I was about 12.
I'm delighted that I've found the world of higher-end gear, but I'm so glad there still exists great EDC knives in the truly budget range. You can now buy a great user knife for around $25 & that, as Mr. Shabazz says, is a beautiful thing.
There are still a couple popular brands I haven't yet experienced, most notably (to me) Zero Tolerance & ProTech (although I WILL own a Malibu as soon as I can get one!).
Anyway, after all this rambling, to me a "good" knife is one that, again as Nick says, brings me joy & does what it's supposed to do. There's a saying among bourbon drinkers that the best bourbon is the one you like, & the best way to drink it is the way you like to drink it. I think the same is true with knives. If you're a mall ninja, go be a mall ninja & be proud! If the RAT 2 gives you goosebumps, awesome! And if it makes you happy having all the best materials on a custom one-off, more power to you.
There are factors that can make a knife objectively better than another in measurable ways, such as one steel holding an edge better than another or one lock being stronger than another, etc. But in the end it's all about what you like. 😃
Oh I get it. Kids are the ones who like the “mall ninja” knives. That’s why they come dull ha ha. Safety first right?
Please do a knife brand tier list
Nice letter opener you got there! 😆
Love the discussions being flung out constantly, great job 👍
High metal complex I enjoy all your videos so far I'm new to the knife community just listening and learning from you very informative.
My first was a m tech. 100% mall ninja and definitely terrible
I bought one at my local BP gas station since I wanted one while out camping. Main use bottle cap opener.
Great video brother and some awesome info and points, I personally love these longer rant/ramble videos, I know I do it myself on my channel where I can take a knife review that should take 10 maybe 15 minutes and next thing I know it’s almost a half hour long haha, but I love it though it’s fun to make and watch videos like this, I’m fairly new to your channel, been subbed for a month or so but love your channel already. -Kyle
Thanks Kyle! 😊⚔
Metal Complex you’re very welcome brother
The annoying thing with the Z-Hunter is it could be a good knife, it seems like a good design, tweek it a little and give it proper materials, and it would be a valid knife to carry around when camping, working in a warehouse etc.
Thank you for a very helpful video.
May I ask you for a advice about affordable EDC? I need basically a pocket kitchen knife, which is compact, lightweight, cuts well and has a decent blade length (to slice bread etc). So, I think it is like effective blade length in 3-4 inch range. Grippy non-metal ("warm") handle and ease of cleaning/maintaining would be great too. I browsed through your favourite budget knives list. Still Will, Ontario and Bestech knives looked like a good deal. Still, I want to know your opinion if these are good for the task or there are better options.
Ontario Rat 1 or Rat 2. Also the Rough Ryder Sous Chef would work surprisingly well for you.
@@RubleInnawoods thanks. Since I posted my comment here I handled quite a share of knives and can say that RAT 1 is a very nice choice. My current folder though is not an Ontario rat. It occured to me that I need more tools for everyday tasks and occasionally a longer blade. So my main EDC is SOG Powerlitre multitool for 90% of needs and Bestech Ascot as a big blade solution for rare occurrences.
SOG is an exact match for tasks I need it to do. Bestech does feel overbuilt (blade is thick relative to its width, it is can sometimes be noticeable during food preparation) but the handle/ergo is pure win for me and other folders will have a very hard time trying to replace it on my pocket.
@@tutzdesYT well I’m glad you found something you’re happy with and that works for you, that’s what matters most
Hell, I have a Firebird FH41 that's a really good knife and for 25 bucks. I have some very expensive knives that make me scratch my head thinking how could they produce this knife so cheaply and it's on par with knives 5 times more expensive...
Ganzo blades are 10/10 Inexpensive quality knives, not cheap crap. I have an awesome Ganzo, basically a Rat 2 but with a G lock and 440C
Hey MC, you and I both know weather or not people are willing to admit it but we have some Mall Ninja in us Lol love your channel: )) also hope you and your are safe and happy Godbless.
I'm questioning if knives like the first one you picked up are mall ninjas then what are knives like the key looking knife that sog makes called?
The funny thing is I would rather kill a zombie with my shoe than with a z hunter. I feel like the z hunter would crumble in my hand, mangle my fingers, and leave me one handed in the apocalypse. Sharpen a broomstick before you consider a z hunter.
We/Snecx Mini Buster is coming out soon. Preordered mine already. Have you seen it yet Metal Complex?
I just like the idea of Quality, Usability / Functionality, and then Art that Cuts. D-Rocket has some awsome Flash Gordon future SiFi looking Expensive as hell knives. But they are amazing quality and I enjoy using them as much as looking at them. So I buy 2, one to beat, one to keep...lol
You mentioned in the video something about a Hinderer knife that has dragon/knight/crusader theme on the pocket clip, what was the name of that style of Hinderer?
The Praxis isn't D2, but 9Cr18MoV. I've found Civivi's D2 a bit chippy, especially when run under 20 DPS while the 9Cr is not, so I prefer the latter.
Whoops! You're right! I get it mixed up with their other models lol
I’m trying to do schoolwork and then you just totally ruin it. Now I’ve got to watch their whole video😂
Hahaha I'm sorry 🤣
Metal Complex worth it!
Is there such a thing as a 'left handed' knife and if yes, are they very very expensive?
I'm new and I appreciate this informational content
I like Gerber stuff because it is good for my budget and because it is durable.
Am I the only one who’s audio isn’t matching up with the video?
Na that was an error on my end. Not sure what happened there
Metal Complex ok that makes sense 😂 I was very confused lol
Ganzo. Nuf said
im in collage and i got the bug last 2 years of high school. had lots of crappy gerbers when I was like 7- grade 11 glad I converted lol
Collage
Come on, lay on the knife jargon! You show an Opinel and do not use the magic words "Super Slicey"?!!! Everyone needs a cheese/fromage/paring knife for the cooking work.
Actual content starts at 4:10
I'll take that dragon art knife. I still love looking at them. For me benchmade axis locks are a bad knife. It's just how I feel. Oh and my fave art knife is the WE bronzed dragon scale tanto blade.
I’ve never liked benchmade, I just don’t like the look and feel. Can’t say they’re bad knives but they’re not my taste, feel a lot cheaper than they retail
Mall Ninja knives are for people who need a lot of stimulus and who like weapons, or implied weapons.
I wish I can afford a bench made but I’m happy with my CRKT tuna ☺️
Many things to consider, which varies for each of us.
Great information Tank you
"No self respecting zombie hunter carries tip down." -Rick Grimes
Fortunately growing up in the south there was this thing called a flea market, and I had a grandfather who worked as an electrician for a living and carried and used what were good knives at the time. What a kid has to learn is the fact that paint, bright colors and movies and fantasies "don't cut stuff". Decent sharp well made and heat treated steel does. Then you get older and you think you know what you've been doing and along come guys like Shabazz who tell you that you still suck, because its not a Grimsmo Norseman.😂😂It never ends.
If the other option is just wicker.hahahahahaha I died
Is it weird that I actually am thinking about an Opinel after this video?
Quest for the perfect fixed blade?
Ramble on brother!! 🥴⚔️🛡️🤘🏻
It helped me
Mora...good cheap rugged knife.
Good to me cost about 25 buck to 30 bucks
Good cost more than 20 bucks! A few exceptions to the rule, but...
I didn't even know budk existed. There's some really cringey stuff in there.
It’s a taint upon this world
That Z-Hunter looks good, if you like shitty knives. Good video, I made it to 33min
Wicker 😂🤣😂
Mini Ritter's n the house!!
Good information but...you rambled quite a bit! Could have been half as long!
3 very prominent good gasstation knives here, the rest of them are all very very bad😝
15:40😮Lands that freaky thing right among the good ones😖
Love the show
I need a cool knife i can use everyday for my job im a pressman i cut a lot of paper
Give me a mall ninja knife....with bad ass blade steel and axis lock. Pretty please 😍 or some other awesome variety. Many of us have forgone our fun and awesome ways for adult toys. Our toys are capable of growing with us. If they build it.....we will buy
I’m tempted to buy a Chavez ultramar that I found for 200 bucks. It’s in a really ugly configuration and since it’s such a good price I think I’m going to get it modded. Anyone know who I can get it modded by? Anyone have any good mod ideas. I got 150 dollars for mods
Crud Muffins look up Fanatic Edge 2.0 on IG. He does a ton with the Ultramar.
^THIS^
Joe Marinaro, Thanks, I’m going to see if I can get it modded to look like an ultra tech bounty hunter.
Crud Muffins send him a message with a pic of the Bounty Hunter. He specialized in anodizing titanium so I might be possible. His name is Andrew BTW.
Spreading positivity could be taken badly during this covid crap just saying lol
Lol...
i dont wanna be a bitch MC but isnt the praxis 9cr18mov ?😄
Svord peasant or bland well made cheap knives (think $15-70)for me.
My advice: don't buy knives under 50$!
Victorinox, Kershaw, and CRKT have good under $50 options if edge retention isn't that important.
@@chefboiarby304 cheap knives have a liner lock,I don't trust them!😁
@@user-wj9qb1me7m A well made liner lock is pretty reliable. They're not my favorite lock, but they are perfectly functional as long as the knife is well made enough.
Difficult to follow.
8 dollar Mora beats hands down many +50 dollar fixed blades
Thanks