Wa-hey, that was me on the mic :) Glad you all seem to like that phrase. And "ceiling'd" was the way I spelled it in my head so I was really glad when I saw AsumSaus transcribed it that way
The year is 20CC, invisible ceiling combos are meta, and matches are determined by who is better at staying on the right side of the stage. Nobody’s seen a star KO on stage for years. Somehow Jigglypuff is still played.
@@FauxFalsetto yeah though I feel things are getting better. It helps a lot that HbOx is full-time melee player/streamer now and actually has time to interact with the community. (Probably also helps that the community isn't as underground and ratchet and full of immature teens.)
The trajectory in that Marth ditto clip is so stupidly perfect, it looks like someone used video editing to draw him a path straight to the bottom blast zone
The thing that gets me the most is that it's specifically the left and right of the shield that changes how it operates and not the front and back, which would make a lot more sense since the shield flips when a character rotates
It’s like the moment this decade turned over you cranked your quality to 20XX and every video surpasses the next. I love this experimental style you’re going for because you’re yet to miss - thank you for putting all of Melee’s jankiness in full for everyone to see. One of the best youtube channels around easy.
Love that we’re getting more regular uploads. Loved this content when it was clip compilations, love it even more with voiceover. Our scene is very lucky to have people like Asumdaus, Turndownforwalt, Saveasuntitled, Epengu, and many more.
I played melee for years. To my knowledge I never saw this happen except with roy's counter. And yes I thought this was baked into the ability because I literally saw the ceiling effect every single time the counter was used.
Hot damn, finally a clear explanation delivered to me. I don't play melee for real so I don't look up tech, I learn by listening and watching, so getting such clear explanation and visual examples helps a ton!
Thank god for covering that part on Roy. I’ve spent so long trying to fix that glitch when I was making a Melee balance patch thinking I just had messed up the code somehow
Luigi’s low traction is a reference to Super Mario: the Lost Levels, where the main difference between him and Mario’s gameplay is that he has more jumping height, but less friction.
Dumb glitches in Ultimate: “this game is so poorly programmed, why would anyone play this broken shit game” Dumb glitches in Melee: “wow this feature is amazing. This is the stuff that makes Melee so good, other games should be like this”.
shoutout to the projectNX tweet that said "we respect good game design, so we removed intangibility from footstools" like if it was in melee that it wouldnt be something they came over or explicitly tried to put back in the game lol
@@jk844100 I think it comes down to the utility. I can't name an ultimate glitch that's particularly utilizable. There are certain techs, like AC and Dashwalks, but they're not exactly exploits or glitches, and nothing about them is super universally practical, or even that interesting to look at. Where as melee has like a bajillion extremely practical ones, a bajillion practical ones that look janky as shit, and like a bajillion just straight up jank ones. The second you see weird shit, it raises questions like how the fuck they did that. Ultimate does not have that sense of wonder at all because it's very flowcharty.
The fact that the competitive Melee scene continues to evolve despite the game being played on the exact same version for the better part of human history shows a certain beauty that modern games down't have.
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"He's still ceiling'd by the way" is such a funny term, Abate loves that interaction as well and you can see it in his eyes
It sounds wrong, but perfectly wrong, which is somehow good
1.7k likes but 1 comment bruh
Wa-hey, that was me on the mic :) Glad you all seem to like that phrase. And "ceiling'd" was the way I spelled it in my head so I was really glad when I saw AsumSaus transcribed it that way
@@genghisconnor3685 yo that's cool! I'm glad you chose the right term for that ;)
get ceiling’d
The year is 20CC, invisible ceiling combos are meta, and matches are determined by who is better at staying on the right side of the stage. Nobody’s seen a star KO on stage for years. Somehow Jigglypuff is still played.
By Hungrybox, who is somehow still a top 5 player.
@@Saskaruto16here you go th-cam.com/video/dmLSJrA0n9w/w-d-xo.html
dddmemaybe That video made me feel AWFUL for Hbox. Dude just plays differently and he gets crabs thrown at him FFS
@@FauxFalsetto Melee is the best anime ever made
@@FauxFalsetto yeah though I feel things are getting better. It helps a lot that HbOx is full-time melee player/streamer now and actually has time to interact with the community.
(Probably also helps that the community isn't as underground and ratchet and full of immature teens.)
The intro is adorable
Pan Z i like ur pfp
@Sonicopi Me too
Dangit you took my joke
@@sira2769 it’s the singer of Plastic Love, it’s a great song
d r o p k i c k t h e b a b y
"Invisible Ceiling" sounds like some kind of mid-20th century Socioeconomic theory.
There's definitely more than 1 mid-20th century socioeconomic theory called invisible ceiling.
Omg that Pichu voice
Was that his younger brother or something?
That was a girl voice
@@IAm-zo1bo little boys and girls have the same voice
Lights JusticeZ Not really, it does differ a bit.
@@mparagames Was a joke
Asum I love your content. For some reason your voice reminds me of a Home Depot commercial and I like that as well.
To me he sounds like a slightly lower pitched EMPLemon lol
Aiakos pffffffft damn
Aiakos Oh shit you’re right! And Emp has made videos about Melee before!
@@AiakosVids yeah he sounds like emp lemon on a downward spiral
He reminds of
"numbeerh tieeeenh"
pls don't bully pichu :(
Pichu is just trying his best
agreed
Ima throw him into traffic
0:01 begone low tier
@@Auzuke ow
I love the intro so much I just repeated it a bunch
i'm glad i'm not the only one
Lan Yonson begone low tier “ow”
S a m e
It is just too adorable
hi everyone
The trajectory in that Marth ditto clip is so stupidly perfect, it looks like someone used video editing to draw him a path straight to the bottom blast zone
Lmfao
It reminds me of a birdie in badminton.
"Begone low tier"
"ow"
that intro was beautiful
*comes back in ultimate*
"REMEMBER ME BITCH"
@@FelipeJaquez sakurai: *N O*
@@mr.hippopotamus1792, still nowhere near low tier in Ultimate.
Ikr
As an ultimate player, calling pichu a low tier sounded weird to me at first.
Oh, so my theory of there being an invisible airplane flying back and forth at random was incorrect all these years.
Well to be fair this explanation works better for me lmao
that would make more sense than most of melee tbh
Wonder Woman is in Melee, apparently
this is 1 of the fucking funniest comments i've ever seen
well it could still be true, except instead of randomly the invisible airplane is summoned when you trigger the glitch
We demand more pichu
Stop this stupid abuse
What are you?
Six years old???
WHEN
Begone, low tier
@@officialromanhours
And kirby and bowser are in low tier too
But nobody abuse them!
Why to make video abuse for pichu?
Nice Pichu voice
pichu is a damn sweetheart i cry everytime it is hurt
So...everytime he himself does anything at all?
@@edoardobarbi4003 YES ;~;
Pichu is one of my mains
_hmMMM yEs, cHiLd abUsE_
Begone low tier
I wonder if the sliding velocity being positive or negative explains why the invisible ceiling acts differently on the left and right.
Great theory
Is this testable? Does the negative value cause an effect like that somewhere else in melee?
I'm sure someone here will know an example if it exists
I thought it was about what side of the shield you're on, not what side of the stage.
Jay Sean Yes, which is why we’re talking about velocity and not coordinates, not that coordinates should ever be relevant.
Interesting theory :0
I feel like such a fool for never noticing that oddity with Roy
Don't beat yourself up. The 4 Roy mains probably didn't even know themselves.
@Marisa Nya I thought it was just a swordsman thing. I got it all the time as marth
Kyrem Didn’t even understand why it acted that way so you’re correct
I thought it was a counter with a dirty spike lmao. Holy shit I never even knew about the ceiling glitch until now.
I've seen his counter SO many times and seen the Invisible Ceiling SO many times and I never made the connection. Lmfao.
I gotta say I love the new direction of this channel with all these melee fun facts
0:00 looks like asum got a little brother now
*had a little brother.
He kinda got *Top-Tiered*
@@Jyrem99942
oh damn guess he's gone now
F
The thing that gets me the most is that it's specifically the left and right of the shield that changes how it operates and not the front and back, which would make a lot more sense since the shield flips when a character rotates
It’s like the moment this decade turned over you cranked your quality to 20XX and every video surpasses the next. I love this experimental style you’re going for because you’re yet to miss - thank you for putting all of Melee’s jankiness in full for everyone to see.
One of the best youtube channels around easy.
To this DAY I thought that's how Roy's counter worked. Great work as always!
I love how at the beginning you can hear the slight “ow” from pichu after he gets kicked
Pure comedy genius lol
*_BE GONE, LOW TIER_*
Hey Walt! Maybe you and Saus should collab sometime.
@@Pslamist That'd be fun! I messaged him about it a while back, so maybe we could figure something out!
OW
2:26 I love how the Player 3 cursor is petting the Luigi icon, cute!
Love that we’re getting more regular uploads. Loved this content when it was clip compilations, love it even more with voiceover. Our scene is very lucky to have people like Asumdaus, Turndownforwalt, Saveasuntitled, Epengu, and many more.
I've seen this glitch in tourneys so many times but didn't know exactly how it worked :O super interesting. melee is sick
Abe Tsenoh bro delete that comment
Agreed! So much depth to this children's party game we all love
@Abe Tsenoh bro i'm just here for the melee
Yeah, "sick" as in "ill"
Holy shit those KJH clips are inspirational
Thanks for putting music in the description.
No problem!
Another one of Melee's beautiful features
They should've put this glitch on the back of the box
NEW TECHNICAL REVELATION: INVISIBLE CELING!
The intro is adorable, even the faint "ow"
"The Jank has Jank"
I love you, Melee.
0:57
Your music choice for certain topics is God Tier.
The transitions, everything.
I love it.
Christ. Imagine a god-tier Luigi player that always knows when they're glitched. I'm sure it'd be very abusable.
Still loving this new content. Glad to see your channel picking up some steam as of late. Hope everything on your end is going well!
Nah the jank is melee, and when it has jank it becomes jank squared
When the jank of the jank that is Melee has jank, it is cubed... GameCubed.
Once you discover the jank, another layer of jank is placed on top of that jank.
It’s jank all the way down... but it’s *our* jank 👊
jank^jank
Ouch... my brain
@@Bones0JankCube
"Hi everyone, Pichu here!"
"b e g o n e, l o w t i e r"
I have repeated the first 4 seconds so many times, and I still haven't started the video yet
Holy fuck, I DID think thats how Roy's counter worked! I never knew that was also the invisible ceiling!
You’d think the character with spikes in their shoes wouldn’t have the second worst traction
Hey man I've been really digging your videos lately (but past ones too), keep it up!
What I got from this is that melee has always been a true fighting game, complete with left side / right side advantages.
Super fun and informative video as always, but I was not ready for that opening. I had to pause to finish laughing.
I played melee for years. To my knowledge I never saw this happen except with roy's counter. And yes I thought this was baked into the ability because I literally saw the ceiling effect every single time the counter was used.
Hot damn, finally a clear explanation delivered to me. I don't play melee for real so I don't look up tech, I learn by listening and watching, so getting such clear explanation and visual examples helps a ton!
"Being set to zero"
"This is requiem"
I never knew how much I needed this channel until I saw this video.
4:13 silly name
That deadpan "Begone, low-tier" is priceless
Last time I was this early to a video, Melee was still in Evo.
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"The jank has jank", probably the most Melee phrase to come out of this channel
Agreed
0:09 how does he have no reaction here? he just got hit standing from a half stage length away and is not surprised at all
great question. and if he was expecting it he would have surely shielded it, right?
Because Melee is already so broken that nothing surprises anyone lol
Alright, that intro actually made my day much better.
Great videos, my man. I can't wait to catch up and then see where you go from here.
Saus, you are asum. Love your new content. Loved the old one as well.
Thank god for covering that part on Roy. I’ve spent so long trying to fix that glitch when I was making a Melee balance patch thinking I just had messed up the code somehow
Just patch ICG out, easy game :) smashboards.com/threads/bug-fixes.471624/
“Hey! Let’s make something beautiful out of this mess,” is the Sparknotes of Melee
I don't even play melee but been binging your channel and this is hella interesting
Falco: Be gone low tier!
17 years later...
Pichu: Ok...my turn.
And then he got ultra nerfed
@@falcolom Pichu in ssbu is male-
@@frob1e ok
@@falcolom
Not anymore
A lot of his nerfs were removed (especially the extra self damage)
he is pikachu now
I DEMAND TO KNOW WHAT SWEETHEART VOICED PICHU.
ur mom
@@cgyh68748 Got'em
I'm guessing it's Asumsaus but edited to be higher
@@hatjousuke Are you deaf? It's clearly a kid's voice
@@hatjousuke you and everyone who liked this comment is actually insane
That Luigi clip is easily the most Luigi thing I've ever seen. Not just the invisible ceiling, but TWO back to back misfires.
I'm addicted to this intro
0:01 who you callin low tier?
Yeah
The character intentionally put there by Sakurai lmao
Pichu: hi everyone, pichu here
Falco:b e g o n e l o w t e i r
Very nice video. This topic was long overdue for some more high-quality visuals and examples. Well done.
Thank you for these videos! Super entertainment and educational 🤘🏽
Luigi’s low traction is a reference to Super Mario: the Lost Levels, where the main difference between him and Mario’s gameplay is that he has more jumping height, but less friction.
0:45 notice how shocked C.Falcon looks because of the glitch
lazy afternoons freshest bgm you could've chosen bless you
Invisible ceiling: exists*
Luigi: Here we go again
I thought you were going to talk about phantom hits but low and behold, I am surprised that this too is in a competitive game.
Never change Melee.
Phantom hits aren’t a glitch they’re an intentional mechanic. They were even given an official name in Brawl
Smash bros has no direction advantage
Melee (20 years into its meta): "About that."
love hearing lazy afternoons used as bg music, so calmings. my first song i ever learned on my guitar almost 1 year ago now
love this video alot!
Haha, that grsmash callout
As soon as I noticed the Twilight Town music, you gained my like. Good man.
0:57 when u try to wavedash in ultimate
I love these type of videos so much! Please continue to make them!
HOLD ON PEOPLE, WHAT IF: when he does a smash ultimate vid, he reverses the intro
ty for adding the music in the bio you are literally amazing
1:40 you can’t just play the most romantic song ever created out of a smash cut
Really loved hearing that Shovel Knight and Tomodachi Life music.
It’s 20XX now, someone gonna start hitting intentional invisible ceiling punishes in bracket.
This is really good content dude
b e g o n e , l o w t i e r .
I’m glad your channel showed up in my recommended, I am interested in your videos for some reason
BECAUSE THEYRE AMAZING!!!
Just a SSB nerd the funny part is I don’t even play melee
4:38
No one:
Literally no one:
Luigi: *WOAH, WOAH, WOAH*
thanks for the kingdom hears 2 music bro. made this video 10x better.
"Hi everyone pichu here"
Falco: *begone low-tier*
LMAO THAT INTRO
who voices pichu that's adorable
We miss you KJH :/
"Be gone low-tier"
"Ow"
5:10 yeah i think the constant glitches/bug/inconsistencies make this game really fun competitively!
Dumb glitches in Ultimate: “this game is so poorly programmed, why would anyone play this broken shit game”
Dumb glitches in Melee: “wow this feature is amazing. This is the stuff that makes Melee so good, other games should be like this”.
Pratically yes but you can substitute ultimate with any Smash4 games
*Because NoOne Will ever forget that before Bayonetta Kirby was massibly broken*
shoutout to the projectNX tweet that said "we respect good game design, so we removed intangibility from footstools" like if it was in melee that it wouldnt be something they came over or explicitly tried to put back in the game lol
Gr8 b8 m8
Justin Lacombe it’s not a bait, it’s just what I’ve seen from the Smash community (mainly Melee players obviously)
@@jk844100 I think it comes down to the utility. I can't name an ultimate glitch that's particularly utilizable. There are certain techs, like AC and Dashwalks, but they're not exactly exploits or glitches, and nothing about them is super universally practical, or even that interesting to look at.
Where as melee has like a bajillion extremely practical ones, a bajillion practical ones that look janky as shit, and like a bajillion just straight up jank ones. The second you see weird shit, it raises questions like how the fuck they did that. Ultimate does not have that sense of wonder at all because it's very flowcharty.
The intro with pichu is so cute and funny
3:20 funniest death ever
Goofy ahh Looney Tunes falling
Love how you put the twilight town theme in there ❤️
Am I the only one that thought he was trolling, and the "glitch" was going to be wavedashing?
04/01/2020
Wavedashing isn’t a glitch; the devs knew it was in the game prior to release
@@NoctuaOlivae thats why i put "glitch" like "this"
No he literally put the invisible ceiling glitch in the thumbnail
@@brycegriffin9271 ok, that doesnt change the fact that i thought it was wavedashing
So that's why Roy's counter has such a weird launch trajectory, I thought it just worked like that.
“Begone low tier”
Ow
its been 4 years, and i bet the pichu still has not recovered
The fact that the competitive Melee scene continues to evolve despite the game being played on the exact same version for the better part of human history shows a certain beauty that modern games down't have.
Invisible stoppers.
Jank upon jank upon jank upon jank.
Melee is sick.
"How do you define melee"
Me: 3:48