@@xpaperxcutx4588it’s because Make Wellness is BUYING coaches and promising them a founders bonus if they mass bring their teams. I have all the insider on this….
What most did not realize is that the Atkins shakes were the same ingredients as the Beach Body expensive shakes. Infact the Atkins ingredients were better and much cheaper epecially if you get coupons off of their cite.
What's wild is how they tried to convince people it wasn't an MLM but that it was affiliate marketing and now they are upset because it's NOW affiliate marketing and they are seeing that its not the same thing! 😂
That’s the realest hypocrisy to watch with all the companies that have switched lately…. But you’ve called it affiliate marketing for years so what’s the big deal?? The top leaders who have kicked their feet up & let the tens of thousands roll up from the bottom for years are screwed. They’re actually gonna have to work as hard as they pretend to && STILL it’s past the point of creating & sustaining even years worth of that success in MLM. Parties over, might as well quit while you’re ahead & get a 9-5😂 or wait til you run out of money.
@@elisa-beary If they were smart with their money, they would be able to unofficially retire. The woman at 25:37 bought a large hoyse, instead of putting that money into investments.
I’ve seen people say things like “WE decided to move away from the MLM model” but it wasn’t them that had anything to do with it. It was the company they work for and do not own (not their own business) so therefore do not have any say in what happens.
I feel it’s a bit ironic that the reason the companies are going to affiliate pay is because they do all of their business through social media and it’s cheaper to pay affiliates than pay commissions.
Yeah, I think they are realizing that they have a high price point for all the commissions for all the levels of the pyramid.. and if they cut out a ton of that they can save a lot of money and just pay for their own marketing. Things were different in the days of Mary Kay or Tupperware and having parties was a different form of marketing for these companies then what they could just do themselves.
Ok… the weirdest thing to me in all this is these “top coaches” always seemed to show off how rich they were (millionaires) so why are they so desperate to keep doing this??? If they’re so rich can’t they ‘retire’?? Just seems like they weren’t making as much as they wanted us to believe
Or they are greedy. They will find some other MLM to join. I have an acquaintance that was in Rodan and Fields. When they stopped being an MLM, she switched to a different MLM because “the best part of her job was leading a team, building women up and helping them be successful” and she would not longer be able to do that at R and F.
Some of them bought expensive millionaire dollar homes and had to sell them. A lot of them are selling and now taking their down lines to other mlms. It seems like they thought this would last forever so they were still spending outside of their means.
Misconception and assumed, BODI partner here and here for interest of an anti MLM human. Many partners are present because they truly enjoying helping others, and are not making that much money. Personally I have made very little, keep in mind the perspective here is extremely ANTI MLM.
@@nanabarker8140 I’m referring to the Melanie Mitro’s, Chelsea Pearson’s and Christine Dwyer’s… the top 0.0001% or whatever it is. They for sure gave the impression they were very rich.
Remember when MLMers used to say that MLMs were the same as network marketing? Clearly not if they’re changing their business model to become networking sales
We (the anti-MLM community) owe such a huge thank you to creators like you. This community is winning as a direct result of all the attention that has come from these kinds of videos. What a huge success. Thank you!
These top earners are only upset because it's now "fair" to everyone who joins. Everyone who joins will be treated the same. And they can't make tons of money by stealing it from their huge downlines anymore. If this was ever about the products, this would be a good thing for them. And for over 90% of the company, it is. Those people will not make a lot of money but they will make some from selling the products, and probably more than they ever made in the MLM, without having to spend it all to make their minimum purchase requirements, website fees, etc. I can't wait to see all MLMs crumble!
Not for nothing, but I was a BODi partner and my main takeaways are the following. Anyone who signs your check besides you, you’re at that person’s mercy. In other words, you did not have a business. You are a contractor, subject to whatever rules, regulations, terms, or conditions that the person signing the check puts in front of you. That being said, it surprises me that any of the top partners is complaining that 95% of their income is being taken away by this change. I would think that over the years they would develop a certain business acumen that secured several streams of income. I am also surprised that they didn’t develop an email list for the customers and that they’re so concerned that their customers ‘would go away“ and that neglected to build in certain business basic systems that reflected what they built over a decade. This is truly surprising. The people I feel bad for the most is the 33% of BODi employees that lost their jobs last week. Let’s say a prayer for them.
Amazing how they quickly they move from being passionate about helping people get healthy and live their best lives to jumping ship when their downline gets cut off. The fact the people under them will likely make more than they ever before is the irony in their pity party.
Carl did say that they will be given a list of all their customers so they will have a place to start but all those customers will have to re-sign up under them. My thought though was if you have been running a business why do you not have a database of your customers? oh because it's not your business.
The one who was a nurse… clearly couldn’t handle healthcare. We work a hard job. You work til your water breaks to make enough in OT to go on mat leave. You don’t get breaks. You don’t have a work life balance. You don’t go into healthcare or emergency medicine because it’s cute or trendy or pays well. She wasn’t a good fit for the work and that’s ok, but she needs to be honest with herself. Her “working from home” with her kids certainly doesn’t mean she’s present with them all the time either. See any mommy influencer glued to their phone.
Yass I’ve been waiting for you to talk about this!! This is crazy because Bodi is one the bigger MLMs and if even they are realizing the market is changing then I can’t imagine these companies lasting much longer
For all the money they say they were making, i know they said they couldn't diversify (meaning no other MLM) but there are ways to diversify outside that....investing, rental properties, have a real job....SMH
The high up “coaches” are getting exactly what they deserved. They knew they were scamming people for their own bottom line from day 1. Miss me with the nonsense!
Must be wild when your own business decides to switch models and you, as the CEO, cannot do anything against it, although you are your own boss. RIGHT? ☠️
It seems like my first comment didn't post so hopefully this isn't a repeat. I think you should make a video on how many of these people are religious and how that might play into joining an MLM. It seems like the vast majority of these people that I have seen are religious and they use that constant religious imagery and language to justify and rationalize their own involvement in MLMs as well as recruit others
I love this video because while you are being critical of these people and Beachbody, you are still extremely nice and empathetic towards them. I don’t like MLMs but it does get old listening to people just trashing them the whole time. You are so pleasant
That one lady towards the end….i didn’t make cash for braces from selling candles, adult toys, jewelry, or Beachbody. But I did make enough to pay cash for braces working at Crumbl for a month. You know, a regular job where I actually get paid for my time.
I love Angie. I never subscribed to her beachbody stuff, she honeslty barely talked about it on her YT channel. She stopped completely for a couple of years and built her career outside of it. Smart move.
These people are still being like, "my team is gonna..." and,"the business will still be..." And I'm like, what team? What business? You're not going to control or recruit into a team anymore, lady. You're not going to have anything you can pretending to be running as a little "biz" any more.
I've been in sales for 30 years. I hate it. I've always hated it. I'm in manufacturing, not MLMs, so real sales, no pyramid scams. Sales sucks. You can tell I just don't dig it. Don't understand how anyone would want to rep an MLM.
I feel the same way about sales jobs. Some people are a great match for that type of work. I am not happy in any type of job that requires duplicity or misrepresentation or convincing people to spend money unnecessarily or smarmy/fake cheerfulness. Inside Customer Service is one thing, outside sales is a different beast. It’s very valid to dislike sales work.
I bet bodi did the math on how many people who like the BeachBody brand are turned off by the MLM side and would buy otherwise...so they save money on commissions and get lapsed customers back. Win win.
A. Looks like a bunch of them probably need to stop saying that network marketing (aka mlm) and affiliate marketing are the same thing. Otherwise, why would ya'll be fleeing with the switch to the affiliate model, eh hun? 😂 B. Beachbody was just starting to get big and really well known with both P90X and Insanity all over commercials- even I used to do it with my friends as a teenager- right before they became an MLM. I think finally and at last they're definitely seeing that they made the wrong choice big time by choosing that business model. Imagine how huge the company would probably be if they'd gone with actually training coaches and opening gyms? There would be likely be BODI brand gyms all over the place. Instead they're a failing company that suffers from a terrible brand image due to anti-mlm being so successful, and now they're having to try to scrape themselves up off the ground with the help of affiliates. 🤦
C. Also, my eyes definitely got wide when that one rep said that she was fortunate her husband _had stayed working the whole time_ meaning she didn't retire her husband like they all say they want to, meaning they have a safe additional income stream to insulate them from the effects of situations such as the mlm closing down. Think of all the other huns at the top of the company with her who _did_ "retire" their husbands. They're certainly among the ones who are immediately making these leaps over to other mlms so they can keep making money and not have to worry about suddenly being without a paycheck. Meanwhile this hun whose husband still works a real job is talking about how she wants to wait and think and pray so she can make sure she's doing the right thing. Hmm... I wonder what gives her the privilege to be able to do that!? 🤦
the huns crying is so cringe. But i tough they always say "its like an affiliate, guys" Know that it is, you are crying? so it was never an affiliate, then! cry me the smallest violin! what you crying is you will no longer be able to exploit your downline.
Funny how they didn't see it coming since they are always saying they run their own company! So sad these people with big teams will actually have to work to make money instead of just making money on the backs of others. I have to laugh at how fast these people are jumping to other MLMs...
I’m still waiting for the anti-mlm community to report on Forever Living. They’ve flown under the radar for way too long, but they come from the exact same shady mold every other mlm does.
Now, all of a sudden, they’re talking about all the other products they’ve been using. If they were in a MLM truly for the sake of helping people, why didn’t they share about the other products that really helped them before now? Obviously that’s bcus it’s literally only ever been for the sake of money, and that’s it.
I love how “their” company has the best quality products that change lives and they would recommend them even if they weren’t paid… but then the structure changes (not the products) and all of a sudden another company has the highest quality products and they switch. Hint: you can do the Weightloss and health things without these companies.
I feel like the top earners understand what mlms really are - but they can’t say it out loud - I feel like you have to at least be intelligent to reach those levels - they are in a way preying on the lower ranks to trust the lie - to be successful you must understand the lie right ? I guess if you pack away millions while the mlm is working your good at gambling and perhaps lying or hustling - not for me (: I’ve known so many people who spent money on these type of companies - I do not participate
The disconnect is still very real. It's interesting that that one woman is still dumping on anti-MLM content creators, meanwhile EVERYTHING you guys have predicted has come true, and that's what she's talking about. We're also hearing so many of them saying "I always knew it wasn't MY business" after years of telling their downline they need to "grow your business". 🙄
It's not really their business if a CEO is saying the model is unsustainable and has to end. They will go to another MLM and bring their downline along... Turns out the whole thing of it being like network marketing is not at all true!
and no one say they have to stop talking to each other! Also, know you have to really work for your own commissions, not exploit and scam others below you for your income.
The irony of these distributors is half of them aren’t crying cos they’re not going to get to help THEIR ‘CLIENTS’ its because they can’t make money from them!! I’ve spoken to a few of them and asked why don’t they go get qualified to coach properly and they’re all saying they gonna do something else, this shows the tears are cos they’ve lost money!!! Also trying to go to be MLMs wild!
I imagine the nurse did or does make a lot of money in mlms based on her personality - mlms are just so predatory to make a real income - the benefits 401k - Pto - health insurance etc I get from corporate America is huge for me and I just don’t have the personality to prey on people which is the talent you need to be successful in mlms - the nurse made me feel so stressed out lol -
Laire Lightner did that when one company would try and disrupt her $$$ and find someone else. I think when i was in NM I saw it happen 3 times. Now I think she has her own company that she can run how she wants.
The crazy part to me is they keep saying "it's about helping people" and "it's about the workouts and feeling better" and it's not about the downline and the money and the team building- and then something like this inevitably happens and they either cry about or jump ship. But... I thought it was about the community and the workouts??
I wish these people would just be honest. Just replace "team" with "victims", "coach" with "thief", "company" with "scam", "networking" with "tricking"
It's gonna be ok, it's gonna be totally OK (voice cracks). Why do they think they can fool anyone? They have nvr had a consistent paycheck and they have no idea what their new checks will be like.
I wonder if that lady was referring to Eva M? Either way, clearly whomever got under her skin, ha ha. “Corporate America?” Bodi is a corporation and it’s in America. The call is coming from within the house.
My guess is a lot of the top earners spent a lot to be flashy and flex how much money they make. I hope I am wrong. I worked in the Title industry when the housing market crashed in 2008. So many of the real estate agents I knew spent almost every damn cent they made. Cars trips boats etc. I would be scared too if this is how I behaved.
The Monat rep telling people not to let someone from another country decide how much money you make… it’s giving racism. To me it sounds like she’s talking about working for big, international companies where the owners are based elsewhere.
14:03 This is SO shady - everyone would have to sign up in a certain order , starting with her, on down, in order to make her little fantasy happen. Get out!
Unfortunately I have adhd and take pauses/ forget what I’m saying mid sentence a lot. I also cut out any “ums”, deep breaths that can be heard on the mic etc because I think they sounds worse than just cutting them out!
Oh my goodness! All of these coaches to be sooo cringe, unauthentic & superficial! I have to say, I disagree..I don’t know why, but O was thinking just the opposite. I didn’t find the one coach (or any of them actually) to be good speakers or very convincing. It actually made me want to run the other way.
Chalene Johnson had an excellent take. I do love Beach Body. I’ve been doing their programs some Slim in Six in 2005. I love all their programs. I’m excited it’s changing. I’ve been at the wayyyyy bottom of the BB MLM.
Many of the top reps are already heading over to other MLMs. There's one though that has gone full scorched earth on the company, and she isn't holding back about how she actually was not happy at all in Beachbody.
another one bites the dust... 😏 (kind of)
All the top coaches are jumping to other mlms like Hugh and Grace and Make Wellness. They’re jumping and calling themselves founders at Make.
@@xpaperxcutx4588it’s because Make Wellness is BUYING coaches and promising them a founders bonus if they mass bring their teams. I have all the insider on this….
What most did not realize is that the Atkins shakes were the same ingredients as the Beach Body expensive shakes. Infact the Atkins ingredients were better and much cheaper epecially if you get coupons off of their cite.
What's wild is how they tried to convince people it wasn't an MLM but that it was affiliate marketing and now they are upset because it's NOW affiliate marketing and they are seeing that its not the same thing! 😂
That’s the realest hypocrisy to watch with all the companies that have switched lately…. But you’ve called it affiliate marketing for years so what’s the big deal?? The top leaders who have kicked their feet up & let the tens of thousands roll up from the bottom for years are screwed. They’re actually gonna have to work as hard as they pretend to && STILL it’s past the point of creating & sustaining even years worth of that success in MLM. Parties over, might as well quit while you’re ahead & get a 9-5😂 or wait til you run out of money.
Yes!!! Good point
@@elisa-beary If they were smart with their money, they would be able to unofficially retire. The woman at 25:37 bought a large hoyse, instead of putting that money into investments.
But I thought THEY were the CEOs? 😅
bahahahahahahaha
Omg yesssss!!!! This has been such a great year for the downfall of MLMs.
I’ve seen people say things like “WE decided to move away from the MLM model” but it wasn’t them that had anything to do with it. It was the company they work for and do not own (not their own business) so therefore do not have any say in what happens.
Funny. They own a business that makes businesses decisions for them. lol
They are “sad” because they basically cant talk people into joining and making money off of them anymore lol
And the woman at 26:09 bought a large house, instead of putting the six figures into investments.
I feel it’s a bit ironic that the reason the companies are going to affiliate pay is because they do all of their business through social media and it’s cheaper to pay affiliates than pay commissions.
Yeah, I think they are realizing that they have a high price point for all the commissions for all the levels of the pyramid.. and if they cut out a ton of that they can save a lot of money and just pay for their own marketing. Things were different in the days of Mary Kay or Tupperware and having parties was a different form of marketing for these companies then what they could just do themselves.
Ok… the weirdest thing to me in all this is these “top coaches” always seemed to show off how rich they were (millionaires) so why are they so desperate to keep doing this??? If they’re so rich can’t they ‘retire’?? Just seems like they weren’t making as much as they wanted us to believe
Or they are greedy. They will find some other MLM to join. I have an acquaintance that was in Rodan and Fields. When they stopped being an MLM, she switched to a different MLM because “the best part of her job was leading a team, building women up and helping them be successful” and she would not longer be able to do that at R and F.
Some of them bought expensive millionaire dollar homes and had to sell them. A lot of them are selling and now taking their down lines to other mlms. It seems like they thought this would last forever so they were still spending outside of their means.
Misconception and assumed, BODI partner here and here for interest of an anti MLM human. Many partners are present because they truly enjoying helping others, and are not making that much money. Personally I have made very little, keep in mind the perspective here is extremely ANTI MLM.
@@xpaperxcutx4588absolutely untrue.
@@nanabarker8140 I’m referring to the Melanie Mitro’s, Chelsea Pearson’s and Christine Dwyer’s… the top 0.0001% or whatever it is. They for sure gave the impression they were very rich.
Remember when MLMers used to say that MLMs were the same as network marketing? Clearly not if they’re changing their business model to become networking sales
MLM is network marketing. They are changing to affiliate marketing.
“Helping people” can’t roll my eyes hard enough!
We (the anti-MLM community) owe such a huge thank you to creators like you. This community is winning as a direct result of all the attention that has come from these kinds of videos. What a huge success. Thank you!
These top earners are only upset because it's now "fair" to everyone who joins. Everyone who joins will be treated the same. And they can't make tons of money by stealing it from their huge downlines anymore. If this was ever about the products, this would be a good thing for them. And for over 90% of the company, it is. Those people will not make a lot of money but they will make some from selling the products, and probably more than they ever made in the MLM, without having to spend it all to make their minimum purchase requirements, website fees, etc. I can't wait to see all MLMs crumble!
The true top earners aren't worries because they made so much and diversified. It's sad for the ones lower on the totum pole
Not for nothing, but I was a BODi partner and my main takeaways are the following. Anyone who signs your check besides you, you’re at that person’s mercy. In other words, you did not have a business. You are a contractor, subject to whatever rules, regulations, terms, or conditions that the person signing the check puts in front of you. That being said, it surprises me that any of the top partners is complaining that 95% of their income is being taken away by this change. I would think that over the years they would develop a certain business acumen that secured several streams of income. I am also surprised that they didn’t develop an email list for the customers and that they’re so concerned that their customers ‘would go away“ and that neglected to build in certain business basic systems that reflected what they built over a decade. This is truly surprising. The people I feel bad for the most is the 33% of BODi employees that lost their jobs last week. Let’s say a prayer for them.
As an actual fitness coach.... calling them coaches is a big stretch. 😑😑😑
The CEO says it's unethical????? THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP are saying that????
“Groomed” is such a word choice
I feel like Monat is going to be the next MLM to turn to solely affiliate marketing because they've not been doing too well lately
Monat might implode before they have the chance, lol.
The optimism is delusional.
Amazing how they quickly they move from being passionate about helping people get healthy and live their best lives to jumping ship when their downline gets cut off. The fact the people under them will likely make more than they ever before is the irony in their pity party.
the toxic levels of positivity....i bleed blue...oh brother.
The way Dyer can say "i groomed so many of the top successes" and not realize how creepy that sounds is....creepy.
Carl did say that they will be given a list of all their customers so they will have a place to start but all those customers will have to re-sign up under them. My thought though was if you have been running a business why do you not have a database of your customers? oh because it's not your business.
The gag is your customer list was ALWAYS available. You could download your customers anytime you want to🤷🏽♀️
You DO know who your customers are,LOL. How did you baboons come up with this nonsense?😅
WHY DID SHE USE THE WORD GROOMED
The one who was a nurse… clearly couldn’t handle healthcare. We work a hard job. You work til your water breaks to make enough in OT to go on mat leave. You don’t get breaks. You don’t have a work life balance. You don’t go into healthcare or emergency medicine because it’s cute or trendy or pays well. She wasn’t a good fit for the work and that’s ok, but she needs to be honest with herself. Her “working from home” with her kids certainly doesn’t mean she’s present with them all the time either. See any mommy influencer glued to their phone.
🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯.
My first thought was thank goodness she’s not nursing anymore with her crap attitude.
Yass I’ve been waiting for you to talk about this!! This is crazy because Bodi is one the bigger MLMs and if even they are realizing the market is changing then I can’t imagine these companies lasting much longer
Man I'm going to be laid off from my job in 3 weeks and I'm so SO glad I already know the dangers of MLMs
For all the money they say they were making, i know they said they couldn't diversify (meaning no other MLM) but there are ways to diversify outside that....investing, rental properties, have a real job....SMH
just started the vid but just have to say your hair is gorgeous 😍😍
She should start her own hair care line....MLM 😂 JK 😂
The high up “coaches” are getting exactly what they deserved. They knew they were scamming people for their own bottom line from day 1. Miss me with the nonsense!
Must be wild when your own business decides to switch models and you, as the CEO, cannot do anything against it, although you are your own boss. RIGHT? ☠️
I thought they owned their business and were boss babes
It seems like my first comment didn't post so hopefully this isn't a repeat.
I think you should make a video on how many of these people are religious and how that might play into joining an MLM. It seems like the vast majority of these people that I have seen are religious and they use that constant religious imagery and language to justify and rationalize their own involvement in MLMs as well as recruit others
Most are Mormons
I love this video because while you are being critical of these people and Beachbody, you are still extremely nice and empathetic towards them. I don’t like MLMs but it does get old listening to people just trashing them the whole time. You are so pleasant
That one lady towards the end….i didn’t make cash for braces from selling candles, adult toys, jewelry, or Beachbody. But I did make enough to pay cash for braces working at Crumbl for a month. You know, a regular job where I actually get paid for my time.
I love Angie. I never subscribed to her beachbody stuff, she honeslty barely talked about it on her YT channel. She stopped completely for a couple of years and built her career outside of it. Smart move.
These people are still being like, "my team is gonna..." and,"the business will still be..."
And I'm like, what team? What business? You're not going to control or recruit into a team anymore, lady. You're not going to have anything you can pretending to be running as a little "biz" any more.
That first girl and her weird mouth noises almost made me click off 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Glad I’m not the only one 😂
I've been in sales for 30 years. I hate it. I've always hated it. I'm in manufacturing, not MLMs, so real sales, no pyramid scams. Sales sucks. You can tell I just don't dig it. Don't understand how anyone would want to rep an MLM.
I feel the same way about sales jobs. Some people are a great match for that type of work. I am not happy in any type of job that requires duplicity or misrepresentation or convincing people to spend money unnecessarily or smarmy/fake cheerfulness. Inside Customer Service is one thing, outside sales is a different beast. It’s very valid to dislike sales work.
It's funny how they always told us it's just like affiliate marketing and now that it actually is, it's the worst.
Glad to hear this news!
I bet bodi did the math on how many people who like the BeachBody brand are turned off by the MLM side and would buy otherwise...so they save money on commissions and get lapsed customers back. Win win.
The last video is spot on. Ppl do what works for them.
A. Looks like a bunch of them probably need to stop saying that network marketing (aka mlm) and affiliate marketing are the same thing. Otherwise, why would ya'll be fleeing with the switch to the affiliate model, eh hun? 😂
B. Beachbody was just starting to get big and really well known with both P90X and Insanity all over commercials- even I used to do it with my friends as a teenager- right before they became an MLM. I think finally and at last they're definitely seeing that they made the wrong choice big time by choosing that business model.
Imagine how huge the company would probably be if they'd gone with actually training coaches and opening gyms? There would be likely be BODI brand gyms all over the place.
Instead they're a failing company that suffers from a terrible brand image due to anti-mlm being so successful, and now they're having to try to scrape themselves up off the ground with the help of affiliates. 🤦
C. Also, my eyes definitely got wide when that one rep said that she was fortunate her husband _had stayed working the whole time_ meaning she didn't retire her husband like they all say they want to, meaning they have a safe additional income stream to insulate them from the effects of situations such as the mlm closing down.
Think of all the other huns at the top of the company with her who _did_ "retire" their husbands. They're certainly among the ones who are immediately making these leaps over to other mlms so they can keep making money and not have to worry about suddenly being without a paycheck. Meanwhile this hun whose husband still works a real job is talking about how she wants to wait and think and pray so she can make sure she's doing the right thing.
Hmm... I wonder what gives her the privilege to be able to do that!? 🤦
the huns crying is so cringe. But i tough they always say "its like an affiliate, guys" Know that it is, you are crying? so it was never an affiliate, then! cry me the smallest violin! what you crying is you will no longer be able to exploit your downline.
Funny how they didn't see it coming since they are always saying they run their own company! So sad these people with big teams will actually have to work to make money instead of just making money on the backs of others. I have to laugh at how fast these people are jumping to other MLMs...
A lot of them are switching over to a company called Shaklee
I’m still waiting for the anti-mlm community to report on Forever Living. They’ve flown under the radar for way too long, but they come from the exact same shady mold every other mlm does.
Wow. Crazy all these “CEOs” can’t make decisions about their own company 😂
Now, all of a sudden, they’re talking about all the other products they’ve been using. If they were in a MLM truly for the sake of helping people, why didn’t they share about the other products that really helped them before now? Obviously that’s bcus it’s literally only ever been for the sake of money, and that’s it.
I love how “their” company has the best quality products that change lives and they would recommend them even if they weren’t paid… but then the structure changes (not the products) and all of a sudden another company has the highest quality products and they switch.
Hint: you can do the Weightloss and health things without these companies.
it’s wild to hear these women finally substantially agree with you/anti mlm but to end that sentiment with “can’t wait to rebuild in a new company”
Cosmetic surgery is a terrifying addiction.
No business is a sure thing. It’s not just MLMs.
The notion that it’s “their” business and they are CEO’s went poof in an instant. Smh
They kept saying they were business owners and called the shots. They also claimed they were just like affiliates so ..this should be no problem
I feel like the top earners understand what mlms really are - but they can’t say it out loud - I feel like you have to at least be intelligent to reach those levels - they are in a way preying on the lower ranks to trust the lie - to be successful you must understand the lie right ? I guess if you pack away millions while the mlm is working your good at gambling and perhaps lying or hustling - not for me (: I’ve known so many people who spent money on these type of companies - I do not participate
The disconnect is still very real. It's interesting that that one woman is still dumping on anti-MLM content creators, meanwhile EVERYTHING you guys have predicted has come true, and that's what she's talking about.
We're also hearing so many of them saying "I always knew it wasn't MY business" after years of telling their downline they need to "grow your business". 🙄
It's not really their business if a CEO is saying the model is unsustainable and has to end. They will go to another MLM and bring their downline along... Turns out the whole thing of it being like network marketing is not at all true!
and no one say they have to stop talking to each other! Also, know you have to really work for your own commissions, not exploit and scam others below you for your income.
I was in Christine Dwyers downline. I have seen exactly how she’s moving her team and which one. She is going to Shaklee and FASTer Way To Fatloss
She is also being paid a bonus for bringing her team…
Her doing some more grooming?
Nice coffee, some video games, and a new kyla video ❤
The irony of these distributors is half of them aren’t crying cos they’re not going to get to help THEIR ‘CLIENTS’ its because they can’t make money from them!! I’ve spoken to a few of them and asked why don’t they go get qualified to coach properly and they’re all saying they gonna do something else, this shows the tears are cos they’ve lost money!!! Also trying to go to be MLMs wild!
It's called a database called Access. Should've used it.
I imagine the nurse did or does make a lot of money in mlms based on her personality - mlms are just so predatory to make a real income - the benefits 401k - Pto - health insurance etc I get from corporate America is huge for me and I just don’t have the personality to prey on people which is the talent you need to be successful in mlms - the nurse made me feel so stressed out lol -
Laire Lightner did that when one company would try and disrupt her $$$ and find someone else. I think when i was in NM I saw it happen 3 times. Now I think she has her own company that she can run how she wants.
The crazy part to me is they keep saying "it's about helping people" and "it's about the workouts and feeling better" and it's not about the downline and the money and the team building- and then something like this inevitably happens and they either cry about or jump ship. But... I thought it was about the community and the workouts??
This would affect the higher ups more since they rarely do any selling anymore.
I wish these people would just be honest. Just replace "team" with "victims", "coach" with "thief", "company" with "scam", "networking" with "tricking"
Sure now suddenly they've been unhappy for years...
do you get to pick the ads that get played during your videos because some of them seem like they would be biz models you would talk about.
It's gonna be ok, it's gonna be totally OK (voice cracks). Why do they think they can fool anyone? They have nvr had a consistent paycheck and they have no idea what their new checks will be like.
I wonder if that lady was referring to Eva M? Either way, clearly whomever got under her skin, ha ha. “Corporate America?” Bodi is a corporation and it’s in America. The call is coming from within the house.
“We” have announced 😂
I think these tops earners are good at selling dreams and not products, hence why they're upset
My guess is a lot of the top earners spent a lot to be flashy and flex how much money they make. I hope I am wrong. I worked in the Title industry when the housing market crashed in 2008. So many of the real estate agents I knew spent almost every damn cent they made. Cars trips boats etc. I would be scared too if this is how I behaved.
The Monat rep telling people not to let someone from another country decide how much money you make… it’s giving racism. To me it sounds like she’s talking about working for big, international companies where the owners are based elsewhere.
Also, these girls make 500K to $1M a year in this business… not $100K. They are their family’s income! This was a huge blow!
Why would you move to another mlm under someone else after this fell apart? 🤔
11:10 I think it's so off-putting when people swear this much, but ESPECIALLY when this person is supposed to be some sort of business leader.
But, but this is their own businesss!! They are CEOs!!! 😅
14:03 This is SO shady - everyone would have to sign up in a certain order , starting with her, on down, in order to make her little fantasy happen. Get out!
If you're going to pay for workouts, Peloton is great.
She already joined shaklee, another mlm 🤣
She knows she could build it up again but why do that with an mlm. And if she knew it could be ripped away ar anytime why be shocked.
Holy cuts Batman...
Unfortunately I have adhd and take pauses/ forget what I’m saying mid sentence a lot. I also cut out any “ums”, deep breaths that can be heard on the mic etc because I think they sounds worse than just cutting them out!
Oh my goodness! All of these coaches to be sooo cringe, unauthentic & superficial!
I have to say, I disagree..I don’t know why, but O was thinking just the opposite. I didn’t find the one coach (or any of them actually) to be good speakers or very convincing. It actually made me want to run the other way.
How will she paid for her plastic surgeries now ?
Chalene Johnson had an excellent take. I do love Beach Body. I’ve been doing their programs some Slim in Six in 2005. I love all their programs. I’m excited it’s changing. I’ve been at the wayyyyy bottom of the BB MLM.
People dont the money for that. Shakeology is over a $100 dollars.
Making money off preying on others ....wonder why people talk badly about it hmmm such a thinker lol
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Many of the top reps are already heading over to other MLMs. There's one though that has gone full scorched earth on the company, and she isn't holding back about how she actually was not happy at all in Beachbody.
Which rep is this?
@@lesleydiaz2115 Krystal Karmatz
But they are all business owners 😂 I have my own business and no one can come and just change how my business operates 🤣🙃🤡