Best New Pressure Washer Gun? McKillans Swivel Pro VS MTM SGS28
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 มิ.ย. 2024
- Today we try out the new McKillans Swivel Pro which we have been waiting on for some time. We got it a bit early due being on the waitlist for a while. Was it worth the wait and $100 watch to find out!
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Appreciate the honest feedback as always, thanks Keav!
You’re welcome
The MTM and Mosmatic guns are at such an angle because they are designed for the ergonomics of industrial cleaning like concrete and house soft washing. I got this Swivel gun pro a couple weeks ago and enjoy it much better. I retired my Mosmatic because it really was uncomfortable on my wrist, especially when you have a powerful pressure washer pushing your hand back and you have to fight against the water pressure.
Yup, the were designed for car washing. I have not tried a Mosmatic to know it’s trigger pull. I choose the SGS28 simply because of the trigger pull. The angle is more fatigue, but the trigger feel helps alleviate some of the wrist fatigue. Also, being an enthusiast I’m not washing cars all day which could bring out fatigue I might not feel.
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Your product reviews are just amazing. Can’t thank you enough for helping make a decision on a pressure washer gun.
You’re Welcome!
Really comprehensive review and comparison. Great info as always.
Thanks
Excellent comparison Keav , very thorough and informative 👌
Thanks 🙏
I’m glad my local detail shop has mtm sg28 for sale. As soon as picked it up, pressed the trigger and felt the lightness I was sold instantly.
Yeah, once you feel that pull it’s hard to like anything else.
Nice review. Did you see Josh test out the harbor freight gun? Maybe test that out to compare it.
That spray gun is not on that same level to compare. I thought about it, but it’s way too much like the Ridge Washer gun which I’ve already reviewed. Just feels repetitive.
Great Office Clips Keav!! Thanks for the comparison. New gun looks great!
You’re welcome. The Office is my favorite show.
@@CarsWithKeav great show… wish it was still on!
@@BXGreen Agreed
Awesome review of these two items. The underdog king vs. industry king. Thank you for your recommendation in the past of the SGS28, it has been AWESOME!
Btw, that scale you have.... Do you use that to measure the BAM BAM you receive? 😆
It measures Kilos and Lbs. I cannot confirm nor deny if it’s used for that. 🤣
The trigger feel is amazing on the sgs28, but this swivel pro is a worthy competitor and the spray angle is nice.
I’ve actually tried a mosmatic gun the swivel was nicer but besides that I preferred my sgs28
That is the main reason to go Mosmatic is the swivel and possible the quick connects.
I have the OG spec gun, and it's my go to one. Again it's like the Kranzle, if you have the money it's a great option, but if you're on a budget and like to abuse the crap out of your tools, the SGS 28 is probably the way to go. I keep an SGS 28 on standby because of how good it is and the comfort of the trigger pull. Keep in mind too, I'm a weekend warrior type guy, so I'm not detailing every day, so I don't send my equipment through the ringer as much as other professionals would and I baby my tools 😅 personally I think you'll prefer the SGS over the OG spec/Mosmatic one just because of the price point and the few improvements the Mosmatic has. Build quality seems really good on both guns but again, my experience so far hasnt been as extensive as others in the professional world. I really love the videos! Keep em up. You've been a go to guy for me on new tools and equipment and I always love the honesty. I'd love a chance to talk Detailing with ya anytime!
Appreciate the kind words and have thought about reviewing the OG spec. I would assume the biggest reason to get it is the swivel? I don’t think it has a lighter pull than the sgs28. I’m not a fan of click triggers in spray guns either. Fittings probably better as well. The bodies are probably the same plastic. The internal MTM might have an advantage due to the stainless screws and nickel plating. I think the Mosmatic is just brass. I think the SGS28 for what it delivers is actually a bit underpriced which I like a lot.
@@CarsWithKeav The swivel is absolutely insane. There's almost little to no difference between it being pressurized or unpressurized, smooth as butter. The trigger pull isn't as easy on initial pull as the SGS, but I like how the trigger sorta locks, it allows you to relax a little, but I think it's more of an individual preference thing. The fittings are really nice and probably my biggest complaint is the brass internals. For the price point I think it should be stainless or at least zinc coated. Although I'm not an expert, and I don't think it really hinders/improves performance, maybe just longevity. Totally agree though, for a pressure washer gun that does everything you need it to, and does it really well, it's a great bargain.
I own both as well. Very little difference except for the superior swivel in the Mosmatic. If they ever break I’ll buy another SGS28
@@forcedinduction_drive1975 Thanks for the great info and telling us your experience. I guess it all depends on what you value the most. I don’t value the swivel as much as I do price and trigger feel.
I love❤ the new mckillans gun. You beat me to the punch. I have my own test of all those guns.
It’s a great gun for sure. If but overpriced to the competition is the biggest problem.
I went from the 1st mckillans to the sgs28 (because of your videos😂) and it is way better by a mile!
It’s the best value in the game right now, but this new Mckillans is very close just needs a price reduction.
Great in depth review as always!
Chemical Guys pressure washer gun review coming up?
I saw it the other day. It’s possible I might review it.
I got the Active gun to go with my 2.3 Didn't like how bulky it was. Switched to the MTM. So much better.
Yeah, Active was real close on a great design and that bulky too just doesn’t feel right. Very heavy up there and not balanced weight wise.
Got the Mckilland gun pro for the presale price and am extremely happy with it.
Yes at that price it’s a heck of a value. It’s a great gun for sure.
Great job Keav as always! My review is uploading as we speak lol! Love the gun.❤
Very nice! It’s a great gun and a worth competitor! We just got to get that price down like the SGS28.
@@CarsWithKeav I’m with you. Either way the shafts on both of these look solid. Win win. 👀
Great video! Just like how the swivel is different when under pressure, it would be nice to see what the trigger pull is like when the gun is pressurized since that changes how much you have to pull to start spraying. Not sure there would be a difference in their ranking, but curious if their internal mechanisms are affected the same under pressure and how that would affect the trigger pull differences between them?
I've noticed a major difference in pressure washers and their required initial trigger pull force. For example, the Active 2.3 keeps the pressure about 600 psi when not in use, which makes the initial trigger pull super light. But with the AR630TSS it keeps the pressure about 1600 which makes the force required to pull the trigger initially much higher (even with SGS28), then you get that initial pop and recoil as the pressure blasts from 1600 to 0 briefly before the motor kicks in. I definitely prefer the 2.3 in that regard.
I’m not sure why I didn’t read trigger pull pressurized. For some reason didn’t even think of that. In my experience though the trigger pull is the same when it comes to ranking them. Pressurized the pull might be slightly more say 10% to 20%, but it’s added across the board. I’ll be sure to keep that in mind the next time I test trigger guns. Thanks for the feedback it’s much appreciated. Yes the 2.3 has the easiest linear ramp up that I have seen and it’s not slow it comes on pretty quick.
Another great review. After having bilateral carpal tunnel surgery in 2000, it's important (to me anyway) that the trigger pull is very easy. No one wants to have a hard-to-pull pressure washer gun. The AR Annovi Reverberi MV925 ($21.00 Amazon stripped or $37.00 on eBay and it's made in Italy. I own 2 MV925 and love them and they live in a 140-degree garage all summer long), the MTM SGS28, and the MTM SGS35 are also very easy to pull and use all day long non-stop. Also, I've just tested a few dirt cheap guns for Amazon that now are finally starting to offer the option to "Lock" them in the on-position. Very handy when pressure washing Semi-Trucks, long trailers, and Class-A motorhomes. I hope these big companies start offering the lock "ON" feature on their higher-end guns. A great feature Active could/should add to their pressure washer gun. After all, we're all looking for the right tools to make the jobs/tasks easier not harder. Again, great review.
Trigger pull is the deciding factor for me on spray guns every time. I’ve talked to some companies and they said they would not add locks as it’s a liability. Crazy to see Harbor Freight selling one now, but it’s just a direct copy or rebrand of the Ridge Washer. I think it’s great for like you said RV’s, big trucks, etc. where you might have to stretch and reach really high.
@@CarsWithKeav Amen. I've seen many use zip-ties for locks. Liability is a good old-fashioned excuse they're giving you. That'd be like a polisher manufacturer saying that's why they won't put a lock button on their polishers. Heck, a weak or defective PW hose is more of a liability. I am glad you did ask. Consumer stupidity is not a liability. Since the pressure washers came out, I have never once used that worthless lockout safety feature on the gun, not one time. Yes, I have children and grandchildren who do not like being around pressure washers (the noise alone keeps them away). Our know-nothing government(s) made it a requirement to have that in place, yet many firearms and weapons have no safety features. FYI Greeworks had a huge recall on their OEM PW guns that came with retail PWs that would explode/burst/fall apart in the user's hand during use. They were all plastic where the hose connected. You'd need to look that up on their website and search "recall" for PW model numbers and gun type. Greeworks was fast to replace mine (no charge) with one made of metal on the inside. Thank you for all the great reviews and your time.
@@still-DJ yeah and they can’t ship short guns with pressure washers in the U.S. due to some rules about people hurting themselves. They can ship a short gun kind of, but in the box there can be no way to use it as a short gun. That’s why the EGO has a 3/8 quick connect at the end of the gun so the 1/4 ones that come with it can’t be used short and only with the wand. You can adapt yourself just can’t come with it. 🤣 New pressure washers from Ava of Norway are now in the states I’ll be reviewing them soon. They made an adapter to use 1/4 on their shortgun, but have to lost it separate as not allowed to ship in the box. 🤷♂️
@@CarsWithKeav Cool.
The Michael Scott clips cracked me up! lol
I could watch the office on repeat forever. 🤣
Another great video. One thing I noticed about these spray guns, most have ugly colors. I know that’s not part of performance but looking nice is half the battle. ;)
Somebody should make vinyl skins for these. Mine wouldn’t last long with how I throw my spray gun. They pick one color as having different colors probably raises the costs. Making the most generic looking color so it appeals to more people. Mckillans they seem to have followed their logo colors.
I may step it up one day to a more quality gun. For now I’m using the ridge washer and it has been fine. I use it maybe one a month though. If it was daily I would for sure step up
Once a month no need for these. The Ridge Washer is a fine choice for that.
Nice!!!!
Thx
Keav, just found your channel and am thinking of investing in a home setup for frankly a more pleasant way of cleaning vehicles. Currently have a gas power washer that is 3,100 psi and and 2.7 gpm. It’s more industrial for home use. Was looking to add the Swivel pro and wand attachment for vehicle focus and possible add the Active 2.3 if I find that I am using it. The swivel pro isn’t rated high enough for current set up, but is close at under 3k psi. Do you think it would work over a short period of time? Thanks.
I switched over to the SGS28. My struggle ... The trigger is soo soft, I've lost count of the number of times I've accidentally sprayed myself in the face when switching out nozzles 🤣
Yeah got to be careful it’s a bit touchy. Can’t say that has t happened to me either. 🤣
Hi Keav,
I’ve always heard of a rumour to not keep pre mixed soap as the foam quality or cleaning ability will degrade.
Could you perhaps test the foaming/cleaning ability of pre mixed soap such as your 32:1 DIY container and/or rinseless kept in a keg sprayer for a month or so?
Could maybe compare to a freshly mixed solution.
Would be an interesting educational topic. Would love to keep more pre mixed chems if they stayed good for at least 1-3 months.
@@VassRulez I’m not sure on other soaps, but DIY detail Yvan encourages saving soap. I don’t use the sponge for rinseless or my bucket soap Incredible suds. I use multiple microfibers and don’t return them to the bucket. So when I’m done I seal the top with Gama lids and will hold till the next wash. As long as it’s sealed Yvan says it doesn’t degrade and will hold for several months. Keeping them out of UV light from say the garage door being opened or a window will help as well. Even with P&S brake buster I have seen no issue pre-diluting. It’s something to think about, but I use my soaps pretty regularly so nothing ever sits for more than a month at the most.
@@CarsWithKeav I’m not too concerned about saving solution in the bucket.
More interested in the foaming/cleaning performance of pre mixed solution kept for a month+ in a foam cannon/pump sprayer/jug.
@@VassRulez I’ve kept pre mixed solution in foam cannons for long periods of time and never saw much of a difference.
Have you tried the silicone grease on the spring inside the SGS28 yet? That’s what stopped the squeak for me
Not yet. Knew about it just too lazy. I also bought a rebuild kit looked at it for a month them somehow lost it. 🤣
@@CarsWithKeav haha I know the feeling. My favorite is when I put something in a “safe place”, it’s safe alright, it’s more like a lost treasure
Love my SGS28. Don't love the sound of that Active 2.3 lol
The sound is an acquired taste. Doesn’t bother me, but I know it would bother others.
Have you tried the new Griot's stubby?
Not available yet, but looks very bulky from what I have seen. I’ll pick it up when it comes out they say end of this month hopefully.
My mckillans gun started leaking since last car wash. Took it apart and cleaned it. I’ll be using it the next wash and if it decides to leak again, looks like I’ll be getting the sgs 28.
Is it the new swivel gun pro? Leaking out the end? It does have a 6 month warranty. I have fixed many spray guns by taking them apart and putting them back together.
@@CarsWithKeavsorry for not stating the gun type. It’s the first mckillans gun gen1 not the pro version. And thank you keav the honest review👍🏼.
@@99kmh32 yeah, that gun is not bad it’s a catalog style rebrand. This new one is their design and they spent a long time figuring it out.
Your timing is impeccable.
Chemical guys released their new version of their snubby gun. Comes with 3 quick disconnects and the snubby for $39.
The gun feels nice in the hands.
I’ll be washing the car on July 4th with the active 2.3 to see how it performs.
Would’ve love to see you compare it with rest of the brands. It looks very close to the active gun
Yeah, I saw it the other day putting it in the list.
I use the yum edition mtm sgs28 mosmatic golden plate colour is like the og mosmatic but is mtm from yum cars in England the swivel is turning so soft bc is mosmatic nothing else comes close to to them
I have seen clean garage sells them, but they don’t change the swivel. It’s just the Prima quick connects that I can see.
@@CarsWithKeav i don’t know I have the yum edition and the swivel is also mosmatic you can see in there website of yumcars
Once you have the Mosmatic, the others feel cheap and like a waste of money.
I’ll take the SGS28 and save $$
Yikes 4 pounds of pressure for the Essential gun…that is unacceptable and I’m pissed that I ended up buying it before looking into it more. No wonder my hand starts to get strained after a minute of washing smh. Also on mine it does not spin that well under pressure. Might have to get the SGS 28 now simply for the fact of the crazy light amount of pressure needed to engage the trigger
You won’t believe the difference in trigger feel. Nothing out there has that light of a pull.
my vote goes to lvtian g19. that thing has all these stuff plus auto lock and price under $30...
I have tried them all and the ones with the lock they’re are nice, but for the $30 you get a 5lb tension trigger. Once you try one that is less than a pound you’ll never want to use those again. The lock is nice, but the SGS28 is
So easy to hold you don’t even need the lock.
Yea I’m not gonna throw my $100 dollar spray gun in the concrete like that lol
Don’t worry I’ll do enough for the both of us. 🤣 Somebody has to test durability. 🤣 At least now it’s thrown at Swisstrax instead of concrete.
I am looking to buy MTM HYDRO SGS28 short pressure gun but amazon doesn’t provide fittings for it.
also i have Bosch pressure washer machine so could you please suggest me the fittings or setup for MTM Hydro SGS28 with my Bosch Machine. Please
I am u sure as we don’t have the Bosch pressure washers here in the states so I don’t know the connections. I’m guessing this is another country and Amazon there doesn’t have the SGS28 with the fittings installed? I know I’m the U.S. you can buy with the fittings already installed.
@@CarsWithKeav actually I wanted to know that is there any adapter like M22 14mm/15mm adapter which fit down the swivel. And then i will connect my Bosch Hose pipe with the connector. The need to know any adapter please.
@@vikhyatraghav You should be able to use something like this to convert your hose to the the quick connect and then attach to the spray gun. This listing has both 14mm and 15mm. amzn.to/3ztPgo1 I am unsure of what size Bosch is as I couldn't find it researching google. I always measure the inside piece with a digital caliper to find out what size it is.
@@CarsWithKeav ok thanks for your help 😊
Most parts of a vehicle, especially the dirtiest ones, are lower than a human's arm. I think the MTM angle is more ergonomic unless your height is 4'11
That is a great observation I didn’t even think of it. It was designed for industrial cleaning and using with surface cleaners which is why it’s at that angle.
@CarsWithKeav The angle is also determined because most applications are intended to have a longer wand attachment. Longer wands generally have a hand grip for your other hand to aim. That is the ergonomic angle for two hand operation.
Hello sir, I have a new batch of polishing machines recently. Would you be interested in helping me test them?
If I was more versed in polishing. I’m still learning and don’t have the experience to properly test one. Plus, it’s probably the one thing in detailing I hate to do more than interiors 🤣
Now you’re just looking for reasons to drop stuff. 😂
It’s become an involuntary reflex now. Only happens when the camera is on though. 🤣
Rip off for $100.
I think it should be around $80 to $85.
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@@CarsWithKeavyou're. Sorry.
@@timkinley1779 I’m not sorry, it’s a TH-cam comment section. Least of my worries is grammar. 🤣