Pay attention to the way he analyzes who he's talking to. He's manipulating his audience, by watching facial expressions, and rapidly changing the subject until he touches on something that appeases them.
I really don't understand the buzz around Charlie Brown. For YEARS, he has been described to me as some sort of final boss lobbyist, similar to trance kuja; a force to be reckoned with. Yet here, he is asked a basic question and he is entirely unable to answer it. He deflects, stutters, and is unable to properly misdirect. I think my blackberry the cat would've been better fit to answer these questions.
That prick completely failed to address the question. I only wish that they’d fired back a follow-up question “what about for out-of-warranty devices?”.
this is not about stupidity. noone expect an answer. things are not decided in a public hearing, hearings are there to fullfill the law and protect themself. hey we madea hearing and we decided, you didnt bring valid arguements. that shifts the discussion to the argument itself and we have a endless rabbit hole - topic goes nowhere. if theres no hearing they have to actually defend the decision without a rabbit hole. its smoke screen, a show. thats why people are half asleep attenting.
He gets paid whether he answers the question or not. And if he gets asked the same question later because it wasn't really answered, he gets paid twice. Perfect scam!
@@xheralt Doing a bad job shouldn't mean you get more work and more money. We should think hard in the back of our minds. "What can we do to fix this?"
@@weignerg , because the committee has already made up it's mind to support the bill. You can tell because they have no questions for the supporters, and opposition questions for the detractors. It didn't matter what their response was...because the hearing was a formality. Now, the bill passing is another question. And we have A LOT of bought politicians in the rest of the WA legislature. But in the end...I think it will pass. It will be interesting to see how it's implemented and enforced.
Thank you for posting this. I will write that down. If we will ever meet extraterrestial life and they wonder how the human brain works, I will throw that scentence on them.
Its the same shit with digital game downloads. I really dont get why people would be so stupid to think thats a good idea. Yeah its more convenient, but you dont own the game you own a licence to play the game. A licence that the platform aka PlayStation or xbox can take away at any time. Not to mention if you're account gets hacked or stolen or if you get kicked you lose all those digital games you paid for. Who the fuck thinks thats a good idea
TOP BANANA just my opinion but I love digital downloads because they have prevented me from having to re purchase a game due to the disc being worn or damaged. And I have never had a company say my licensing of the game was no longer valid, but I previously have had to replace hard copies of games multiple times.
"It's too complicated for people to understand, so we are afraid of releasing the schematics!" Um... if it's too complicated to understand, what's the issue of releasing the schematics?
Th-they could mess it up or something. "But wouldn't that happen regardless if you don't release the schematics?" M-muh proprietary information though.
Easy to copy might have tempted a few parents I knew in the past. However, Steam Sales made piracy less of a concern. Come to think of it, the PC is a VERY open platform despite the OS being closed source
Senator: "Whats 2+2?" Lobbyist: "Well, you see there are things that and um foregone conclusions on the matter of the fact that if we study the ramifications of said question in a truly serious conversation that we really want to have because and for the sake of the future of our children and because the climate crisis doesn't allow time for the accurate measure and there are peanut farms and registering the right to vote is very important in society because and green grass on the front lawn and conceptual concepts of conceptualizing the realization of realizing. And I'd just like to thank the panel and LOOK A SQUIRREL."
@@AceDeclan so what, exactly, do you imagine a "closed door" discussion would be about? Completely innocent things, in no way involving bribery of any sort? If that was the case, they could have the discussion right there, on the floor. And if you're thinking there's not enough time... how much time has been wasting talking about the fact they would like to have the discussion elsewhere? The fact that the suggestion of having a discussion in private when it involves laws dictating the lives of millions of people is not considered outright treacherous is far from amusing.
"We need to have a serious discussion..." Is a Senate hearing not "serious". Who is not being serious? Is he accusing the Senators of not being serious? Is he just not serious?
@WOW THAT What are people that make Hackintoshes thinking? It's easier to get Windows software working on Linux through Proton than to make it work on MacOS. www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/e3zfin/linux_worked_better_for_gaming_than_a_mac/
@@Studio23Media I agree, but they are a big focus and once they RTR passes and Apple give more details/parts to help fix products others will follow suit. You have to start somewhere.
I completely understand your concerns and we should absolutely have a conversation about store-related matters during this discussion. Stores are an important part of the economy and we should definitely teach our children how to shop at them.
@@apocalypseap I am more than happy to converse about that issue. Have you seen the new Fitbits? Amazing technology, the kids will love it. We must always think of the children when having these conversations about discussing various topics of interest.
@@prophetear6221 As these hearings are meant to shape future law, it should be treated like a court room. But its not. Im actually in favor of forcing these slimeballs to actually answer the questions being asked of them. Im tired of these hearings ending up being giant wastes of time and resources just because lobbyists are allowed to not participate while pretending to participate. Hell, they dont even need to exist. You could replace these lobbyists with a tape recorder and nothing would be different.
@Haters Gonna Hate oh, thanks! I guess Samsung and everyone else preinstalling Facebook is okay then? Not that I asked for that when I bought the phone or that it was specified... At this point I trust China more then US so US should think about what they're doing right now...
@Haters Gonna Hate Yeah, My Windows 10 had 10 games ( most of which were just demo versions like Minecraft ) But it's different when Windows promotes their own games Facebook is probably paying to get preinstalled on every phone :/
@@kanal2123a Facebook pays smartphone companies so that their app is installed on default. Many companies does this to get people to use their apps/software which is why bing still makes money since its the default search engine on windows
No point, really. They made their point, and he made it clear that he has no rebuttal. Pressing the topic will just yield the same drivel. In the end, votes will speak.
No, that would be how he started with the TIKTOK BS; but then he took a few hits off his bong and started contemplating his navel in public with his/Apple's take on Killery's take on Africa's take on ever lil chile needs a village.
There is some coded wording here if you listen he said: "We need to have a longer discussion on this outside of the hearing" they all keep saying that. I would be willing to bet this "longer" discussion outside of the hearing is going to boil down to "how much to buy you? Followed by if you can't be bought what do you think about the others".
Oh yeah, it's really obvious once you pointed it out. He's virtually coming right out with "Let's make an outside deal, and any money/power we can get out of this, and leave these chumps to blather on."
@@NeuronalAxon Yup its funny how easily you can overlook what they are doing they must be well practiced at this. No one seems to even notice what's so blatant an right out in the open.
Actually more like: I want to describe my view when no knowledgeable person hears and can call me out on my lies. It's not so easy to lie when filmed - a newspaper with a private expert may slay him if he lies too strongly during this hearing.
But you see, if you add... add... add... add words just like you... uhh, you know... like you... like you talk, it increases drastically. For children. *FBI! PUT YOUR HANDS UP!* That's not what I meant! I'm a lobbyist!
@@thenumber1baller946 yes, i understand that. was just pointing out that Lobbying in and of itself isn't criminal. We just don't like what Charlie Brown is lobbying for, while we do like what Louis is lobbying for. A bit pedantic maybe.
In regards to ownership: It's also not having full control over the device. Why can't I have admin rights on my own phone without rooting it and potentially loosing the warranty or even bricking the device, if rooting is possible at all.
I always imagine it to be like in Futurama when the clone of Prof. Farnsworth overclocked Bender "voiding" his warranty. It literally all came down to the fact if you can run your product just as good if not better than the next iteration of the product they release, you no longer have the incentive to buy their product. You, as a consumer, are not a person to these people, just money for them to collect from. That's why they restrict you from doing stuff to your phone because it's actually extremely easy to improve battery life, increase performance, etc, etc.
Why is every answer, “We can talk about this later?”. Why don’t they have answers now? Call them out on this at the next hearing as you did in Washington with the preemptive, “A Bill in search of a problem” dispelling statement.
Because they want to have discussions behind closed doors, where they can lie, coherse and manipulate without the keen eye of the public to fact check them and reveal them to be the weasels they are. Scum, protecting their pockets, to the detriment of the public. Disgusting.
Louis hit the nail on the head at 8:55, only I’d say that there absolutely is not any “perhaps” to it at all. There’s no way this man is stupid to the extent that he does not realize EXACTLY what he’s doing.
Luis i never in my life owned Apple product and i never will but i can't stop watching your videos. Last year and half i spend tons of hours just listening to you! U are really intelligent man and keep up the good work
I like how he is bringing up a warranty that is only good for ONE YEAR and doesn't cover any ACCIDENTAL damage. It's almost like he is assuming everyone is stupid and also gets a new phone every year.
@@absalomdraconis most warranties for the past century don't cover accidental damage by the end user. If you've ever read one they explicitly state they cover manufacturing defects and parts. Many also will stipulate what normal use is and if you were overdoing it may not cover. Cell phone companies are mother fuckers but they didn't come up with 1yr warranties covering flaws in the equipment
"That super computer in your pocket that YOU call an i phone" Ok, settle down boomer. It's just a regular i phone in 2020, it would only be a super computer if it were 1985. That's how technology works.
@@nmartoudis I think he was trying make it out as if you needed to learn rocket science to repair the phone, as if saying "You sir are not intelligent enough to learn how to repair your own device."
@@dhgmrz17 absolutely! That's why we need more repair shop owners/employees to show that it's not in fact rocket science. Or at least, it shouldn't be if we had the necessary info available
It wouldn’t be supercomputer in 1985 either, but it still is a computer, with a Kernel on a Unix base but heavily modified running on a Arm chip, the only different is that on that computer you are not root.
He looks like the type of guy that talks to you in sentences that only start with "Look...", "No..." or "The way I see it...". Meanwhile staring at something distant.
I love the wide range of content on your channel Louis. It's all high quality and entertaining; from board repair, to rossmann reality, and right-to-repair content. Thank you for hours of entertainment.
I don't disagree with Louis often... but I had no idea there was a chance that I could get a phone back with Tiktok on it. That's horrifying. It's Authorized Apple repair for me from now on.
Are you people that paranoid. People are so scared of back doors and hackers nobody can think straight anymore. Throw all the electronics away if you're that scared.
Yes last time my phone went in for repair it came back with tiktok on it. That's because I put tiktok on it before it broke and the shop left it on there and all my data. They just replaced the screen like they were suppose to and it was done when they said it would be at the price they quoted me.
@@overweightactor True, but considering how much Apple restrict background execution on iOS (For third party apps), there is nothing that app can do to you if you never launch it / uninstall immediately.
@@overweightactor The FBI has already admitted to Congress that they "listen" to our phone conversations without warrants and can turn your mic on (newer phones(I think) without powering the phone up at all. At least you could uninstall TikTok. Try uninstalling your mic.
Also don't forget the look on his face when he left, he did that "eyebrow wink" thing to someone in the audience like it was a hint to someone like who knows him "we'll 'talk' to em later, we got this ;) " Scumbag. Watch him when he walks off and they're calling the last round of speakers.
I was waiting for it before it even happened. So glad someone else noticed. I've seen this type of behavior when a person is uncomfortable with what just happened and is looking for sympathy or trying to portray that they are in control.
Your comments are so true. Again, as I commented on a related video, lobbyists are there to defend corporate interests and if it means distractions, so be it. Conversations are honored and followed through on when it serves their shareholders, not the stakeholders - well as long as their shareholders win do they engage in conversation otherwise they feed the listener distractions.
It took about three minutes of listening to these lobbyists before I wanted to reach through the screen and throttle them. I am in awe of Louis Rossman for fighting this battle for so long and not spilling blood.
I HIGHLY recommend you go watch the entire hearing Louis has on his channel if you haven't already. As much as I know Louis does not have this intent I always hated how television would take snippets of interviews/hearings/trails etc. out of context to strongly persuade an opinion of the audience. Besides the entire hearing is gold. Watching the whole thing is important to getting the full story for yourself. AGAIN I know Louis DOES NOT have a deceitful intent.
Apple thinks like this: "When you purchase a pencil from home depo, and break it, you should have to take the pencil back to home depo to get it sharpened."
@@dominicpascal5512 that depends on how blunt it is: if it just needs a quick sharpen then it will cost half what you paid for it, but if you have worn that graphite all the way down to the wood then sorry buddy but that will cost more than a new pencil to get fixed so you might as well just buy a new one.
I remember arguing with my "tech lead" on an obvious bug in a code base but he thought it was fine. His argument was instead of fixing the bug, which would cause the user group confusion and delays, was to "educate" the users. Needless to say, the vote was to fix the bug.
Vote for the people that ask the right questions and don't accept bullshit answers. I know, it's really not easy at all. And then spread the word! Education always helps
Thanks for commenting on this i didnt like his answers in the first video, also noted how supporters of the bill were open to questions but the defenders kept saying they wanted to talk about it in another meeting.
People like this make me sad to be like an American and even disgraced that i am in the service. I appreciate your videos and the education you provide to many minds about the subject of their electronic devices. From the bottom of my heart thank you and keep up the amazing work.
The fact that all these lobbyists keep bringing up the "future conversations" should leave an open assumption that ~you~ have the same option -- send every person on that panel a followup message, a rebuttal to what these lobbyists had to say, and a few more pointed questions that they should be asking these lobbyists when their followup meetings take place - There's a small handful on the panel that really seemed to be on "our" side, so perhaps the followup message(s) could be individually tailored to address the questions they asked, that the lobbyists just deflected and ignored.
You’re doing a fantastic job Luis, but the game rigged. I really hope these people loose and are exposed as the lying scumbags they are but I’m not holding my breath.
There are packs of pencil leads available in the market that you can "refill" your mechanical pencil with. It's the laws like these Right-to-Repair that would make sure those pencil refill leads aren't kept "hidden" or made frequently "unavailable" at your local Target or Walmart.
Dude. You and these fine representatives who are actually doing their job ( **cough** Mitch McConnell **cough** ) are heroes. The world needs more of you.
The statement that really caught my attention from Charlie Brown was when he was talking about electronics and kids and uses the phrase @ 7:33 "we need to capture them early on", like WTF?
I know this is only anecdotal, but last time I took my iPhone to a Genius Bar with a faulty phone, the guy just took it away, brought me a new one and helped me restore my data to it. The whole thing took about thirty minutes and cost me nothing. I’m fairly certain the guy wasn’t following protocol but I was very grateful to him!
He's not clueless. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's making money.
He's just counting on the panel before him not knowing the subject matter...probably not a bad bet.
Yep
Billed by the hour
Pay attention to the way he analyzes who he's talking to. He's manipulating his audience, by watching facial expressions, and rapidly changing the subject until he touches on something that appeases them.
He’s pathetic on purpose and makes the Chewbacca defense seem rational.
I really don't understand the buzz around Charlie Brown. For YEARS, he has been described to me as some sort of final boss lobbyist, similar to trance kuja; a force to be reckoned with. Yet here, he is asked a basic question and he is entirely unable to answer it. He deflects, stutters, and is unable to properly misdirect. I think my blackberry the cat would've been better fit to answer these questions.
Because he doesn't know about technolgy, he know how to buy congressman and legislators.
Watch yes minister, the BBC series! he's speaking the same way!
You're a badass, Louis. Thanks for your help fighting against some of the assholes of the world.
That prick completely failed to address the question. I only wish that they’d fired back a follow-up question “what about for out-of-warranty devices?”.
Charlie Brown? Must be an NSA plant. Worst alias ever! Might as well call Louis... Snoopy. ;) :P
Why doesn't anyone straight-out ask him, "why don't you answer my question?"
@Ryo Sanada naw. Doesn't look like it. I think they already know how they are going to vote. They seem to all be pro-repair.
this is not about stupidity. noone expect an answer. things are not decided in a public hearing, hearings are there to fullfill the law and protect themself.
hey we madea hearing and we decided, you didnt bring valid arguements. that shifts the discussion to the argument itself and we have a endless rabbit hole - topic goes nowhere.
if theres no hearing they have to actually defend the decision without a rabbit hole. its smoke screen, a show.
thats why people are half asleep attenting.
He gets paid whether he answers the question or not. And if he gets asked the same question later because it wasn't really answered, he gets paid twice. Perfect scam!
@@xheralt Doing a bad job shouldn't mean you get more work and more money.
We should think hard in the back of our minds.
"What can we do to fix this?"
@@weignerg , because the committee has already made up it's mind to support the bill. You can tell because they have no questions for the supporters, and opposition questions for the detractors. It didn't matter what their response was...because the hearing was a formality.
Now, the bill passing is another question. And we have A LOT of bought politicians in the rest of the WA legislature. But in the end...I think it will pass. It will be interesting to see how it's implemented and enforced.
"Do i own my Iphone?"
"THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!"
Ye think of the children who will be educated to fix their own shit and not throw it away if it has a little bit of water on it.
Think of the ones making them in sweatshops!
😂😂😂😂😂
"9/11" (Lois Griffin)
The children will eventually start taking office and having to fix the mess he caused.
""It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair
mind blown
Thank you for posting this. I will write that down. If we will ever meet extraterrestial life and they wonder how the human brain works, I will throw that scentence on them.
My favorite quote.
Its the same shit with digital game downloads. I really dont get why people would be so stupid to think thats a good idea. Yeah its more convenient, but you dont own the game you own a licence to play the game. A licence that the platform aka PlayStation or xbox can take away at any time. Not to mention if you're account gets hacked or stolen or if you get kicked you lose all those digital games you paid for. Who the fuck thinks thats a good idea
TOP BANANA just my opinion but I love digital downloads because they have prevented me from having to re purchase a game due to the disc being worn or damaged. And I have never had a company say my licensing of the game was no longer valid, but I previously have had to replace hard copies of games multiple times.
"Do we own our private property?"
"9/11 was bad"
"Oh yes 9/11 was bad, this guy must be right about everything let's vote on his side."
Jeff!
9/11 was inside job
"Yup your parents did a mistake"
"I agree with that!"
"It's too complicated for people to understand, so we are afraid of releasing the schematics!" Um... if it's too complicated to understand, what's the issue of releasing the schematics?
Th-they could mess it up or something.
"But wouldn't that happen regardless if you don't release the schematics?"
M-muh proprietary information though.
If they release it they can't sell it at gold price anymore.
"Well you still have patents which make them legally imposible for anyone to copy it right?"
"Uhhhh... The children(?"
This is one thing I noticed about Apple hardware. Because it's harder to fix, the resale value on Apple stuff might be higher
Easy to copy might have tempted a few parents I knew in the past. However, Steam Sales made piracy less of a concern. Come to think of it, the PC is a VERY open platform despite the OS being closed source
"Is this my property or not?"
"Have you seen those new TV's coming our way?!"
DON'T ASK QUESTIONS
JUST CONSOOM PRODUCT
AND GET EXCITED ABOUT NEXT PRODUCT
@Slim Tinskin A very Democratic response.
@@46wireboy No.
Ay?
Senator: "Whats 2+2?"
Lobbyist: "Well, you see there are things that and um foregone conclusions on the matter of the fact that if we study the ramifications of said question in a truly serious conversation that we really want to have because and for the sake of the future of our children and because the climate crisis doesn't allow time for the accurate measure and there are peanut farms and registering the right to vote is very important in society because and green grass on the front lawn and conceptual concepts of conceptualizing the realization of realizing. And I'd just like to thank the panel and LOOK A SQUIRREL."
Wow
This made me laugh more than it probably should have 😂
Legislator: "Is this my phone?"
Charlie Brown: [execute dementia.exe]
this killed me hahahahaha
😂😂😂😂
I laughed embarrassingly loud at this.
Also c:/run BLOCKHEAD.exe
I died lmao
Charlie Brown should be an advocate for public education spending rather than being a tech lobbyist.
He does that too, i checked his website.
Senators should have a sign saying: "Stick to the question asked."
Point of personal privilege, I do not believe the delegate answered the question.
Pertaining to the briber or the bribee? Both are relevant.
I cannot believe his name is Charlie Brown and he's bald.
He's also most certainly a blockhead.
@Tone. Works for some snoopy companies, though.
Was waking into the comments to find a Peanuts' comment. My day is good now.
Bruh, he's starting to sound like his teacher WA WAwawawawa
I thought that Louis was mocking him by giving him that name, and then I realized that is HIS REAL NAME. 😂
and he has peanuts for brains.
“Have this discussion later” is code for “increase closed door bribes”.
tubesism how do you know that...?
@@AceDeclan so what, exactly, do you imagine a "closed door" discussion would be about? Completely innocent things, in no way involving bribery of any sort?
If that was the case, they could have the discussion right there, on the floor. And if you're thinking there's not enough time... how much time has been wasting talking about the fact they would like to have the discussion elsewhere?
The fact that the suggestion of having a discussion in private when it involves laws dictating the lives of millions of people is not considered outright treacherous is far from amusing.
The non licensed repair shop dude was just straight up honest and it was a great feeling to hear that.
"We need to have a serious discussion..." Is a Senate hearing not "serious". Who is not being serious? Is he accusing the Senators of not being serious? Is he just not serious?
Get Adam Shift in the room, we need a serious discussion to take place.
Find out in the next episode of dragon ball Z
Why so serious?
Surely you can't be serious.
I *am* being serious; and don't call me Shirley!
I would estimate that he is VERY serious. He's making, and handing out, serious money.
He's right. Let's educate the children. Start by giving them manuals that explain how Apple's products work and how the children can fix them.
WOW THAT Apple isn't the only company doing this though
@WOW THAT What are people that make Hackintoshes thinking? It's easier to get Windows software working on Linux through Proton than to make it work on MacOS.
www.reddit.com/r/linux_gaming/comments/e3zfin/linux_worked_better_for_gaming_than_a_mac/
@@Studio23Media I agree, but they are a big focus and once they RTR passes and Apple give more details/parts to help fix products others will follow suit. You have to start somewhere.
"In your opinion"
Start by telling them not to buy products from companies like samsung & apple.
If TikTok is such a security concern for Apple, why is it on their store available for download?
Kevin Arzola - Exactly! Smoke and mirrors!
I completely understand your concerns and we should absolutely have a conversation about store-related matters during this discussion. Stores are an important part of the economy and we should definitely teach our children how to shop at them.
Why? Money off course. Or to be exactly, GREED.
@@icemachine79 Yes let's talk about how we should have those discussions and never actually have them. That's the ticket.
@@apocalypseap I am more than happy to converse about that issue. Have you seen the new Fitbits? Amazing technology, the kids will love it. We must always think of the children when having these conversations about discussing various topics of interest.
Why Can't there be a bailiff who tackles question dodgers?
That would be great, but I violates the first and fifth amendments. To be clear, I’m pro repair and I think this lobbyist is doing a poor job.
@@prophetear6221
As these hearings are meant to shape future law, it should be treated like a court room. But its not. Im actually in favor of forcing these slimeballs to actually answer the questions being asked of them. Im tired of these hearings ending up being giant wastes of time and resources just because lobbyists are allowed to not participate while pretending to participate. Hell, they dont even need to exist. You could replace these lobbyists with a tape recorder and nothing would be different.
“There going to install tick toc on your phone!” Says the company that preinstalls apps that you have no choice in keeping
Louis you've got to stop installing Tik Tok on every phone you get your hands on. It's not the first time you re beeing told this has to stop !!!!
Please tell me what's deal with this, it seems funny but I guess it's inside joke :D ?
@Haters Gonna Hate oh, thanks! I guess Samsung and everyone else preinstalling Facebook is okay then? Not that I asked for that when I bought the phone or that it was specified...
At this point I trust China more then US so US should think about what they're doing right now...
@Haters Gonna Hate Yeah, My Windows 10 had 10 games ( most of which were just demo versions like Minecraft )
But it's different when Windows promotes their own games
Facebook is probably paying to get preinstalled on every phone :/
@@kanal2123a Facebook pays smartphone companies so that their app is installed on default. Many companies does this to get people to use their apps/software which is why bing still makes money since its the default search engine on windows
Stenky Why do you trust China more than the US?
There needs to be a person who just yells “Answer the DAMN question sir!”
Lobbyists have bribes with them. Polits ask enough questions to make them look good but not enough to get to the bottom of the problem.
No point, really. They made their point, and he made it clear that he has no rebuttal. Pressing the topic will just yield the same drivel. In the end, votes will speak.
"that super computer in your pocket"
what decade is this dude from seriously
matt He is stuck in the “I live to fuck people over on behalf of corporations” era
I hate when people do this because super computer is a relative term
Perhaps he meant snooper computer
@@Kenzofeis well I mean that is what windows 10 is right
1938... lmao (no joke)
Mr. Rossmann you're just amazing!
What he’s doing is called “obfuscation”, it’s a classic lawyer trick.
No, that would be how he started with the TIKTOK BS; but then he took a few hits off his bong and started contemplating his navel in public with his/Apple's take on Killery's take on Africa's take on ever lil chile needs a village.
Answering questions with "let's have a conversation" is the politicians way of saying "I don't know" or "I don't want to lie on camera."
.this comment is underrated!!!!
To keep a good lie going you have to really know your audience, doesn't work in a public hearing.
More like "Come in the back room so you can bribe me"
It means he will talk to the legislators after the meeting, while Louis is at his hotel posting videos.
is the lobbyst way of saying "you are right, but it is not what I pay you for, lets correct this in private"
There is some coded wording here if you listen he said: "We need to have a longer discussion on this outside of the hearing" they all keep saying that. I would be willing to bet this "longer" discussion outside of the hearing is going to boil down to "how much to buy you? Followed by if you can't be bought what do you think about the others".
American freedom working its gears...
Oh yeah, it's really obvious once you pointed it out. He's virtually coming right out with "Let's make an outside deal, and any money/power we can get out of this, and leave these chumps to blather on."
@@NeuronalAxon Yup its funny how easily you can overlook what they are doing they must be well practiced at this. No one seems to even notice what's so blatant an right out in the open.
Actually more like: I want to describe my view when no knowledgeable person hears and can call me out on my lies. It's not so easy to lie when filmed - a newspaper with a private expert may slay him if he lies too strongly during this hearing.
lobbyist: "It's a solution in search of a problem"
also lobbyist: "let me give you an answer in search of a question"
My brain hurts.
Lmaooo
😂😂😂😂
Well said 😭 lmao
Keep it up! Right to repair isn't something granted by corporations its inherent in being an American!
I never realized I owned a "supercomputer" that I call an iPhone...
@Jeremy Jolivet He isn't a dinosaur, he just looks older thanks to all the stress he is going through being a sellout.
Well it is a super-computer in the sense of whatnthe word "super-computer" meant at the time it was first being used.
@Jeremy Jolivet Anything more powerful than the enigma decryption machine would be a super computer to this baldie.
when the essay requires 500 words but you're still stuck at 100
But you see, if you add... add... add... add words just like you... uhh, you know... like you... like you talk, it increases drastically. For children.
*FBI! PUT YOUR HANDS UP!*
That's not what I meant! I'm a lobbyist!
@@frealms Lobbyist=criminal
@@antiisocial wait, I'm confused. Louis was lobbying too, are you saying Louis is a criminal?
@@RobBrown386 these lobbyists are being paid to talk about this. Luis is not.
@@thenumber1baller946 yes, i understand that. was just pointing out that Lobbying in and of itself isn't criminal. We just don't like what Charlie Brown is lobbying for, while we do like what Louis is lobbying for. A bit pedantic maybe.
In regards to ownership: It's also not having full control over the device. Why can't I have admin rights on my own phone without rooting it and potentially loosing the warranty or even bricking the device, if rooting is possible at all.
It's for your own "safety"
Kinda crazy really, because I can pay 100 bucks for Windows and can do whatever I want, including bricking the system.
I always imagine it to be like in Futurama when the clone of Prof. Farnsworth overclocked Bender "voiding" his warranty. It literally all came down to the fact if you can run your product just as good if not better than the next iteration of the product they release, you no longer have the incentive to buy their product.
You, as a consumer, are not a person to these people, just money for them to collect from. That's why they restrict you from doing stuff to your phone because it's actually extremely easy to improve battery life, increase performance, etc, etc.
@@SuperSayinSolidSnek And then Windows decides that you're not the real Admin and locks your out of folders for no apparent reason.
*losing
Why is every answer, “We can talk about this later?”.
Why don’t they have answers now?
Call them out on this at the next hearing as you did in Washington with the preemptive, “A Bill in search of a problem” dispelling statement.
He doesn't want to be stuck on television admitting who he represents suck, so he asks to talk later
Because they want to have discussions behind closed doors, where they can lie, coherse and manipulate without the keen eye of the public to fact check them and reveal them to be the weasels they are.
Scum, protecting their pockets, to the detriment of the public. Disgusting.
Louis hit the nail on the head at 8:55, only I’d say that there absolutely is not any “perhaps” to it at all. There’s no way this man is stupid to the extent that he does not realize EXACTLY what he’s doing.
I would so call them out on that. Where the hell did he think he was going to testify?
Thank you for your service to our country in your capacity Louis. You're the best!
Luis i never in my life owned Apple product and i never will but i can't stop watching your videos. Last year and half i spend tons of hours just listening to you! U are really intelligent man and keep up the good work
I like how he is bringing up a warranty that is only good for ONE YEAR and doesn't cover any ACCIDENTAL damage. It's almost like he is assuming everyone is stupid and also gets a new phone every year.
That is standard technique: Deflecting. Redirecting the question away from the part you can't - or won't - answer. That is what is is paid to do.
To be fair that is pretty standard for electronics. Sony isn't going to send you a new receiver because you spilled your wine cooler in it
@@chrismorse3862 ?
@@asain3586 : I too am curious about the geometry of the provided example.
@@absalomdraconis most warranties for the past century don't cover accidental damage by the end user.
If you've ever read one they explicitly state they cover manufacturing defects and parts.
Many also will stipulate what normal use is and if you were overdoing it may not cover.
Cell phone companies are mother fuckers but they didn't come up with 1yr warranties covering flaws in the equipment
That one disslike is fro. Charlie himself. Those lobyists are just so pathetic!
Watch out, he made a second account
"In your opinion"
Now theres 25 Charlie's. He must have made duplicate accounts. Lol
Jesus. 44 lobbyists. They are everywhere!
Tik Tok is a national level security threat.
I mean, he's not wrong, but so is apple
Ankit Sachdeva So is the president.
that fucking killed me, I can't believe he used THAT of all options. Was he trying to meme? Like wtf was his logic
Maybe a new malware......
@@MrFurriephillips TDS
Keep up the great work Louis. Hang on there
"That super computer in your pocket that YOU call an i phone"
Ok, settle down boomer. It's just a regular i phone in 2020, it would only be a super computer if it were 1985. That's how technology works.
He started his misdirection then and there. Trying to seem knowledgable on the matter so he can start spitting bullshit
@@nmartoudis I think he was trying make it out as if you needed to learn rocket science to repair the phone, as if saying "You sir are not intelligent enough to learn how to repair your own device."
@@dhgmrz17 absolutely! That's why we need more repair shop owners/employees to show that it's not in fact rocket science. Or at least, it shouldn't be if we had the necessary info available
It wouldn’t be supercomputer in 1985 either, but it still is a computer, with a Kernel on a Unix base but heavily modified running on a Arm chip, the only different is that on that computer you are not root.
Haven't you watched Iron Sky? ;)
He looks like the type of guy that talks to you in sentences that only start with "Look...", "No..." or "The way I see it...". Meanwhile staring at something distant.
"In your opinion"
or DNC candidates, "lets be clear..." followed by BS and misinformation.
Senator: What colour is the sky? ....Charlie Brown: Think of the children!
LAMAO
Imagine having your car at the shop and you get it back "cleared". Everything you had in your car is gone. "Just something we do."
@D Madd11 "Your oil was not the brand name that we recommend, we took that out too."
I can only imagine an Apple car needing an adapter to take the gas nozzle; or you'd have to buy gas from them to not void the warranty.
@@rallyfeind They're removing the filling port altogether on the next model. You'll have to refuel it via Bluetooth.
@@gcewing You are right where I was going with that!
If the car repair shop would clean my car, I'd be even more inclined to using it.
bravo Louis, been following you for a while, nice to see you convert bitterness into action. Respect
Thanks for the video. Mr Rossmann your ranking just got upgraded from "Realy Cool Guy" to "American Patriot". Again thanks for the video.
I love the wide range of content on your channel Louis. It's all high quality and entertaining; from board repair, to rossmann reality, and right-to-repair content. Thank you for hours of entertainment.
"We need to have a serious discussion about this" should be a mug. I will purchase it :)
I don't disagree with Louis often... but I had no idea there was a chance that I could get a phone back with Tiktok on it. That's horrifying. It's Authorized Apple repair for me from now on.
This is what you learned from all of this? This one fear makes you forget all the bullshit apple is trying to pull?
Are you people that paranoid. People are so scared of back doors and hackers nobody can think straight anymore. Throw all the electronics away if you're that scared.
Some people just can't detect sarcasm 😂
@@Omniverse0 Did you know that i wasn't talking to you?
@@Omniverse0 shit he wasn't talking to you, you lost this debate now. Totally owned. (Sarcasm alert! It's for a certain someone)
Man I keep coming back to your videos... thank you for your service and for your contribution to the right to repair movement!
Thank you Louis for fighting for us lil guys 🙏
Bless you sir
Yes last time my phone went in for repair it came back with tiktok on it. That's because I put tiktok on it before it broke and the shop left it on there and all my data. They just replaced the screen like they were suppose to and it was done when they said it would be at the price they quoted me.
Timothy Thompson This was what I was thinking...
I think I'd much rather get my phone back with "Tic Tok" added than having it completely wiped clean by Apple just to reattach a cable.
TikTok is a Chinese surveillance operation. I would almost prefer my data wiped.
@@overweightactor True, but considering how much Apple restrict background execution on iOS (For third party apps), there is nothing that app can do to you if you never launch it / uninstall immediately.
@@overweightactor The FBI has already admitted to Congress that they "listen" to our phone conversations without warrants and can turn your mic on (newer phones(I think) without powering the phone up at all. At least you could uninstall TikTok. Try uninstalling your mic.
Not to mention he's just making shit up to avoid answering the question.
46wireboy I can desolder the mic. That solves that problem. Uninstalling a program is sometimes harder than it sounds.
Also don't forget the look on his face when he left, he did that "eyebrow wink" thing to someone in the audience like it was a hint to someone like who knows him "we'll 'talk' to em later, we got this ;) "
Scumbag. Watch him when he walks off and they're calling the last round of speakers.
I was waiting for it before it even happened. So glad someone else noticed.
I've seen this type of behavior when a person is uncomfortable with what just happened and is looking for sympathy or trying to portray that they are in control.
"Boy, are you stupid, Charlie Brown." -Lucy
Your comments are so true. Again, as I commented on a related video, lobbyists are there to defend corporate interests and if it means distractions, so be it. Conversations are honored and followed through on when it serves their shareholders, not the stakeholders - well as long as their shareholders win do they engage in conversation otherwise they feed the listener distractions.
"My iPhone costs a little bit more than a pencil"
Yeah, sounds right.
Just a little bit more
It's about as technically advanced.
"That supercomputer in your pocket..."
"Thanks Charlie, it is a really cool pencil..."
@@CaptainSeamus "that supercomputer in your pocket" made me mad
K
"For this conversation, we need to have a conversation."
Uuuh...
We need to have a discussion about the conversation that the discussion is in regards to so that the conversation can be discussed.
I'm really happy that you're doing this. We need more people like you
Important work. Thank you.
"Let me pay you under the table and veto this bill" = robust conversations after the hearing
His “serious discussion” is a hefty check to convince them he’s right
Charlie Brown is the one person who disliked this
And his mom now
It took about three minutes of listening to these lobbyists before I wanted to reach through the screen and throttle them. I am in awe of Louis Rossman for fighting this battle for so long and not spilling blood.
Keep up the good fight, my man!
At the end there, was the chairman giving him a subtle hint to be ready with _actual_ answers next time?
he is because he clearly said that Charlie Brown is wasting the time.
Zootopia: You answer their question with your own question, then you answer that question.
Show this video to them in court :D
Gracias Louis!
Louis Rossmann you're a Hero. 👍👍 Seriously.
I HIGHLY recommend you go watch the entire hearing Louis has on his channel if you haven't already. As much as I know Louis does not have this intent I always hated how television would take snippets of interviews/hearings/trails etc. out of context to strongly persuade an opinion of the audience. Besides the entire hearing is gold. Watching the whole thing is important to getting the full story for yourself. AGAIN I know Louis DOES NOT have a deceitful intent.
I will!
This wasn't just a snippet though, there is commentary and proof of argument but I get what you mean.
@@mycelia_ow Yeah what he did was fine I just think it is incredibly important people watch the whole thing too and explained why.
@Mr. Green At first, I thought 45 min kinda long, but it went by very fast. Action-packed.
His best defense was "we have authorized guys who won't install tic toc" 🤣🤣🤣
Apple thinks like this: "When you purchase a pencil from home depo, and break it, you should have to take the pencil back to home depo to get it sharpened."
for the price of half a new pencil
@@dominicpascal5512 that depends on how blunt it is: if it just needs a quick sharpen then it will cost half what you paid for it, but if you have worn that graphite all the way down to the wood then sorry buddy but that will cost more than a new pencil to get fixed so you might as well just buy a new one.
@@prunt23 probably it has "water damage" sensors, too
Keep going Louis from all us spanish repair guys we love you and keep fighting the good fight sir
Love, just love the personal property question.
I remember arguing with my "tech lead" on an obvious bug in a code base but he thought it was fine. His argument was instead of fixing the bug, which would cause the user group confusion and delays, was to "educate" the users. Needless to say, the vote was to fix the bug.
Software development in a nutshell. "Oh, our product doesn't work? Well, that's not our problem now, is it?"
@@ThePC007 LOL Yup!
Brown: "For this conversation we need to have a discussion."
Translation: "I have to prime you, so you can develop the right opinions."
The “right” opinions
What can an average person do to help this cause?
I would imagine spreading some videos like this is a great start.
Vote for the people that ask the right questions and don't accept bullshit answers. I know, it's really not easy at all.
And then spread the word! Education always helps
Vote for bernie as democracy destroys shitty bosses and lobbyists like these
@@tophatv2902 Vote for anyone else besides Bernie, he's a terrible candidate and not the only one who would support right to repair
@@tophatv2902 Bernie is a moron and his field organizers support gulags.
Thanks for commenting on this i didnt like his answers in the first video, also noted how supporters of the bill were open to questions but the defenders kept saying they wanted to talk about it in another meeting.
People like this make me sad to be like an American and even disgraced that i am in the service. I appreciate your videos and the education you provide to many minds about the subject of their electronic devices. From the bottom of my heart thank you and keep up the amazing work.
"Charlie Brown! Shame on you!"
Snoopy
The fact that all these lobbyists keep bringing up the "future conversations" should leave an open assumption that ~you~ have the same option -- send every person on that panel a followup message, a rebuttal to what these lobbyists had to say, and a few more pointed questions that they should be asking these lobbyists when their followup meetings take place - There's a small handful on the panel that really seemed to be on "our" side, so perhaps the followup message(s) could be individually tailored to address the questions they asked, that the lobbyists just deflected and ignored.
Senator: Legitimately valid question.
Lobbyist: Let's have a conversation... *TIK TOK!!!*
Louis you Rockmann, keep up the great work. Greetings from Norway
You guys did awesome!
Q: Do I own this IPhone? A: It comes with warranty :D This made my day
Yeah...because those correlate with each other 😂. Charlie brown is a joke
he has legit practiced not answering questions. he cant answer anything only tell you about other things
You’re doing a fantastic job Luis, but the game rigged. I really hope these people loose and are exposed as the lying scumbags they are but I’m not holding my breath.
Me gets a mechanical pencil
Mechanical pencil: you cannot refill the led, you need to buy a new pencil.
There are packs of pencil leads available in the market that you can "refill" your mechanical pencil with. It's the laws like these Right-to-Repair that would make sure those pencil refill leads aren't kept "hidden" or made frequently "unavailable" at your local Target or Walmart.
But it's dangerous to replace the led on your own, what if you lose the eraser or overfill the pencil
Same thing with printer cartridges.(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻
If apple comes out with led pencils. “Reduce lead usage! Lead at 10%” “you have ran out lead, please contact apple Genius Bar so”
IM LOVING ALL THESE SENATE VIDEOS YOUR KILLING IT BRO
Dude. You and these fine representatives who are actually doing their job ( **cough** Mitch McConnell **cough** ) are heroes. The world needs more of you.
Dude, when I heard this guy say "That super computer in your pocket"
i fucking lost it.......
There is something I never though I would ever be.
Hating Charlie Brown...
"When you're missing 100 words on your assignment" in a nutshell
More like filler lines...but there is no actual content to bridge to 😂
I love the way they pollute the question!
Louis, you have to into politics. You're answers are clear and to the point! Rossmann for president😉
We have a saying in Portugal: "It is easier to catch a liar than a lame! "
that's great, I love that idiom, thanks for sharing it. Definitely going to start using that myself.
I thought you were calling him Charlie Brown for the purpose of sarcasm until I realized that was actually his name.
The statement that really caught my attention from Charlie Brown was when he was talking about electronics and kids and uses the phrase @ 7:33 "we need to capture them early on", like WTF?
As in capture their imaginations, I think?
@@Dth091 I'm sure that's why TikTok is in the Apple app store!
Thx Louis! Learning how Lobbyist's rhetoric work again and again and...
I know this is only anecdotal, but last time I took my iPhone to a Genius Bar with a faulty phone, the guy just took it away, brought me a new one and helped me restore my data to it. The whole thing took about thirty minutes and cost me nothing. I’m fairly certain the guy wasn’t following protocol but I was very grateful to him!