Before Jamestown: The French Huguenots Colonize South Carolina

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  • @williamradisch340
    @williamradisch340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    BTW - The University of West Florida, under the direction of Dr Judith Bense, has located and conducted excavations at de Luna's encampment in Pensacola; as well, they've located 3 underwater shipwrecks from his fleet, and have been working on those, as well.

  • @monthandley3979
    @monthandley3979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Pensacola has a museum displaying artifacts of the Spanish Colony.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Mont! That's outstanding! It looks like the folks in Pensacola market archaeology as a big part of their tourism push! www.visitpensacola.com/things-to-do/history-heritage/archaeology/

  • @thejoycatcher8189
    @thejoycatcher8189 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m doing genealogy on my surname and it leads to southern France to Huguenot ancestors but very difficult to research. They changed the spelling a few times and moved to England before they came here to the southern states. Poteet and Poteat were spelled differently but this is the surname linked. Thanks for sharing this.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for sharing your story. It sounds like you are making some exciting progress.

    • @godofgods1995
      @godofgods1995 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am trying to trace my ancestors back as well (previously Hair) and seem to have gotten to the one to arrive in SC first. The trail goes mostly cold from there. They apparently stopped in Barbados but i am unsure if they came from Virginia first, England, or directly from France.

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does the trail lead to the city of Montpellier?

    • @navajod6396
      @navajod6396 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have traced one line back to the last name mizell, I done a little research and they were a group of Jews from Russia earlier on who escaped joined with Huguenot's and some changed the spelling of their last name. Don't know how true this is but maybe you can help me out

    • @navajod6396
      @navajod6396 ปีที่แล้ว

      Frances "Fannie" mizell daughter of of Sarah Carter and David mizell who I think is the son of John mizell if I am not mistaken

  • @eddiekulp1241
    @eddiekulp1241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Watching all your historical videos

  • @nielbd
    @nielbd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    What I know about Huguenots is that they were mostly calvinists

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, that is true Ben. Thanks for watching and commenting.

    • @jasonbourne4670
      @jasonbourne4670 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@HistoricalContextUSA yeah and they weren't Lutheran like you claimed.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jasonbourne4670 Did I misspeak somewhere?

    • @jasonbourne4670
      @jasonbourne4670 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoricalContextUSA you said they were Lutheran in the beginning of the video.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jasonbourne4670 thanks!

  • @JohnnyDelaney-mc5ve
    @JohnnyDelaney-mc5ve 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great video. Love history and love South Carolina, especially the Beaufort area .....

  • @davidabarrios1503
    @davidabarrios1503 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am a descendant of these Huguenots! This was so exciting to listen to this. My great Grandfather (10th)

  • @clawhammer704
    @clawhammer704 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My ancestors were French Huguenots that came over on a British ship in the early 1600s. They had left France to England then to America as indentured servants at the Curls Neck plantation off the James River in Virginia.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing! I hope you check out our episodes on the Virginia colony.

  • @MsLhuntMartinez79
    @MsLhuntMartinez79 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We have a few lines of French Huguenot ancestry. My 11th ggf was Sir Robert Brassieur/Brashear II (b.1590 - 1665) of Carpentras, Vaucluse, Province - Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France (French Huguenot). That family line came to the Colony of Virginia no later than 1637 I read in documents. Other family members came and settled further South into the Carolinas. There also seem to be some French-Dutch lines with them from the Netherlands. I've traced some of the French-Dutch back to Canada marrying into Indian families/tribes.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for sharing! Well done on finding such detailed information in your family's history!

  • @BoneyRasputin
    @BoneyRasputin ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My relative was Jacob Remy Son of Pierre Remy, son of Jaques Remy, son of (noble) Georges Remy son of Diedier Remy a French noble. He fled as a Huguenot to England had his lands in France seized, came to America as an indentured servant. Married his masters daughter, was freed, died with his own land and an American citizen. My grandfather LaFamond Reamy, his eventual grandson made his way to Texas where we are now. I Could've been nobility, at least I'm a Texan, I'll take that!

  • @willsjaime
    @willsjaime 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing, we're literally told nothing about the Charlesfort colony. It should be part of the history for sure.

  • @l.g.duboise1448
    @l.g.duboise1448 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A DuBoise descendent from Horry County. As someone else mentioned the name has changed in spelling.
    I do believe my kin came from Normandy from a village now called Deippe.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for sharing! I hope you enjoyed the series!

  • @nicholashaney278
    @nicholashaney278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Have you considered doing an episode on San Miguel de Gualdape? I apologize if you have already discussed this settlement and I overlooked it.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is the first I've heard of San Miguel de Gualdape. I did some reading on it and it is interesting. If I can find some primary sources, I will do a future episode.

    • @JohnChrysostom101
      @JohnChrysostom101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why no one cares about the spanish its not our history this is

  • @azflowery
    @azflowery 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For those who are interested in Huguenot history or the descendant of Huguenot, you may also like the Huguenot cross made in silver and gold. check out here: www.zafaristudio.com/products/huguenot-cross-necklace-sterling-silver

  • @thebitterdose6749
    @thebitterdose6749 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Informative video. One tidbit I’ll like to add….the word negro in historical text did not exclusively mean African slave. In the Americas, it usually meant Indian slave. Only a few, by comparison, Africans were shipped to the Americas

  • @adrionacarr6903
    @adrionacarr6903 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These huguenots your speaking of are my ancestors this so interesting 🤔 thanks for this information 👍

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome! I'm glad you found the channel!

    • @davidabarrios1503
      @davidabarrios1503 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Me too!

    • @Bouchillon
      @Bouchillon หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mine as well I love hearing videos like this!

  • @Geraldine-y7r
    @Geraldine-y7r 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I too have links to the French Belgium ancestors we even have a monument in the French corner of South Africa

  • @WaxhawInjun
    @WaxhawInjun 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great info/video

  • @briangraham3329
    @briangraham3329 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have over 400 years of continuous family history from France, America and Canada. I know history on huguenot that will teach the truth about who they really are and exactly were they live at today. My family's still has artifacts clocks and Bible from befor King James. And I also can show you the truth about what they looked like and were we came from befor France. My family never forgotten our history

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sounds like it would make a great podcast!

    • @briangraham3329
      @briangraham3329 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HistoricalContextUSA I am preparing now . I been up all night putting together the most complete historical hidden history from my well known huguenot family. My family always new who we were and never forgotten our frence nobility. I been teaching history passed down from befor and after we lived in france . I have family's still live in our grandparents over 2000 acres in America . I have pictures of our french castles my family had in America that were in perfect conditions. and got destroyed by American government recently. I know you might only know this from books but Our true history has been hidden in secrecy but I promised my huguenot french grandmother on her death bed I will teach the world the truth about our family. I have pictures with me and artifacts older then king James bible from my family. The information you have is great. But there are several things you must understand has been hidden to scholars that I found when I was young. The Hawkins family merged into My huguenot family so now we are part Hawkins clan as well. I have secrecy on them also. You said few things about slavery that you might not fully overstand the proper context on . Trust me history books lie ,hide the truth, and are leading. . If you want to learn the hidden history I will teach you a few things from my government archives . My family is recognized as the first wave of refugees in history books and Netherlands and America and France commemorated my grand parents. Our oral traditions go back befor we were in France. If you ever want to talk I will send you my direct line . Peace

    • @garyjaensch7143
      @garyjaensch7143 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@briangraham3329very curious if you have any bibles before King James 1611? Of all bibles the King James makes the most consistent sense overall .....also the Basilica doron, gives sense that King James knew God, he gives all credit for being King to God,
      And says God is spring and mover of all earthly things, which matches Bible perfectly, but the ASV and ESV have taken out key words...

    • @briangraham3329
      @briangraham3329 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@garyjaensch7143 I never read the Bible but my family Bible is definitely older then 1611. It is from the late 1500eds. The honorable King James did a great job. My family had access to the printing press with the idea before him but I have respect for king James and what he accomplished

  • @theswarthyone1763
    @theswarthyone1763 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know some of this story. But, my question is @20:20 you say Hawkins was coming back from bringing Slaves from Africa to Hispaniola. What African slaves? How many? What part of Africa? Since he(Hawkins) was writing all this down. Also, Why would the natives give gifts to him? When they are at war with the French (who were also foreigners). These parts don’t make sense. Where is this history documented?

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excellent questions. The link in this comment is directed at the primary writing associated with M. John Hawkins. I only reviewed the section regarding his trip to SC for this podcast and not his trip to Africa. Hawkins was provided gifts from the natives presumably because they did not understand the relations between the English and the French at the time. Take a look at the link and let me know if that answers your questions. content.wisconsinhistory.org/digital/collection/aj/id/2189

    • @justtruth5855
      @justtruth5855 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They the renamed African slaves, had been expelled from Portugal and Spain. Under the Orders of Pope Nicholas he gave his Dum Diversas to make sure that every adult baptise their children into christanity. The Black-a-moors and Israelites basically same people
      refused, so has Portugal had garanteed the safety of the jews then many fled from all around Europe into Portugal or Africa or the America's. Ferdinhand king of Portugal was to marry Queen Isabella of Spain, she wanted them out, Ferdinhand's father a couple of years earlier had rounded up 700 children aged 2 to 14 put them onto ships and sent them to a place called Juda in Africa, any parents who had not commited suicide were sent to St kitts or St Thomas. Later on those 700 children where picked up and sent to America the first of the children of Judah as slaves. As they were not African but strangers, the Africans had no problem helping find and sell /swap the hebrews for some beads or wine. Look for ancient maps you will see Juda named as the slave coast.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@justtruth5855 Wow. Thank you so much for sharing!

    • @lonneljohnston7087
      @lonneljohnston7087 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Pecker Dúnling San Patricio Space Dolphin Brigada Dum Diversas

    • @lonneljohnston7087
      @lonneljohnston7087 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Pecker Dúnling San Patricio Space Dolphin Brigada have you read the papal bull i bet you havent

  • @johndavidnew
    @johndavidnew 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love your videos. that being said, Ribault is pronounced somewhere between "reeboo and reebow" the L and T are silent letters. 90% of the letters in french words are silent. i might be exagerating a bit but... most english words with silent letters have a norman-french origin thanks to duke William the Bast... I mean William the "Conqueror" . Reebow.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I really need to find a site that helps with these pronunciations! Thanks for letting me know!

  • @fleadoggreen9062
    @fleadoggreen9062 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to the one guy left behind??

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not sure you caught future episodes but there were people left behind all over the southeast and some interesting stories emerged!

  • @williamradisch340
    @williamradisch340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the life of me I've never understood why virtually every early European settlement experienced famine and starvation particularly since they were already accustomed to hunting fishing and foraging all manner of game birds fish shellfish and plants in the respective countries where they came from. That being the case I suspect that they were essentially under siege by the indigenous people whose territorieses they had encroached upon.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's a great question. There are a few clues when you read some of the original writings. One issue was the total unfamiliarity with the places they were attempting to settle. In one of my early Plymouth episodes, I mention how William Bradford noted the absence of buildings when they came to MA and how they did not anticipate how that would affect their lives.

    • @williamradisch340
      @williamradisch340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoricalContextUSA Thanks for your reply as well as the series. I can easily understand the colonists unfamiliarity with their new surroundings but I can't fathom how they didn't or couldn't exploit the vast array of subsistence resources surrounding them. The coastal zone is an amazingly resource rich environment and Europeans were well acquainted with it and familiar with exploiting it where they came from. I just can't understand how they couldn't harvest what it had to offer and get by quite well... unless they were restrained or prevented from doing so by the local people.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamradisch340 I agree. It is a fascinating question.

    • @barbarajordan8248
      @barbarajordan8248 ปีที่แล้ว

      The first settlers were predominantly fleeing religious persecution. They could afford the fare; which meant they probably weren’t hunters and gatherers, but tradesmen even even aristocracy.
      It’s the Winter that gets them.
      Take a city dweller today and put him on an island and see if he can survive a merciless Winter.

    • @myradioon
      @myradioon ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Other videos I've seen on this Colony said they were upper class, lazy and expected stores to be resupplied. They didn't follow orders. Remember also - Mosquitos in swarms and illness they never encountered in Europe. Half of any Colony was sick at any given time. The 800 that were brought were brought to do work. They included artisans and indentured servants, some from parts of Europe and the Middle East. It is tempting and plausible to think some people from this Colony deserted and joined with natives. It may explain certain European and Middle Eastern DNA in groups like the NC Turks. The Colonists themselves at Fort Caroline record finding Spanish merchant/pirate deserters already living with the Natives when making relations.

  • @kurtsteiner8384
    @kurtsteiner8384 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My family are huguenots some escatped to uk uk germany, russia and canada.
    Some usa colonies, and canadian were french first but as normal for that period uk was at war with france and drove them out.
    I live in uk

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  15 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks so much for sharing. It gives us the global context to this story.

  • @williamradisch340
    @williamradisch340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's interesting that Spain's economy went downhill, considering the vast amounts of treasure they had plundered from the 'New World'; however, they went on a spending binge - and spent way more than they took in. They ran up such a massive trade deficit that they implemented import restrictions; as well, they enacted 'practicas' (sumpuary laws) to prevent people from dressing and living beyond their means.

    • @williamradisch340
      @williamradisch340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Another major factor in their economic decline was due to, and the result of, the Hildago system (essentially a 'good old boy' network) where nobels conferred aristocratic status to friends/allies of theirs; esp, those who had done favors for them. This practice essentially created a non-working class, who lived the high life - at the expense of those whose taxes they lived off of.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes it is. A rather short boom and bust compared to the empires of the day.

    • @williamradisch340
      @williamradisch340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoricalContextUSA They say history repeats itself, and we have put ourselves in a very similar situation. As an aside, back in the day, one was treated by others based upon their clothing, particularly. People who dressed above their station were treated as higher class; thus, when they passed themselves off as nobility they were treated as such: they were given food, drink, lodging, etc. This was another reason the Practicas were enacted in Spain (and sumpuary laws in England).

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@williamradisch340 I noticed recently that 1650s Boston had instituted a dress code for the poor. It was probably to stop people from faking status.

    • @williamradisch340
      @williamradisch340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoricalContextUSA I hear that: class differences were so rigid - nearly a caste system - they had to enforce those distinctions for the elites to maintain their status. I kinda admire highwaymen, who'd waylay the rich, take and wear their clothes, and pass themselves off as nobility at inns and taverns in villages down the road. Like that scene in the (Russell Crowe) Robinhood movie where they wear the knights attire, and are treated as such.

  • @ASKSer79
    @ASKSer79 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm here just to learn more about my Huegenot ancestors ❤

  • @homerfj1100
    @homerfj1100 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do like these blogs.

  • @Lili-vd3zh
    @Lili-vd3zh 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am french and descendant of old huguenot family from Bordeaux and La Rochelle. Huguenots were calvinists not lutherians. I know I have ancestors who left France for America.

  • @user-te5po4bu8o
    @user-te5po4bu8o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They won in the end I guess, old Huguenot families are all the wealthy families in SC now.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know much about modern day SC, but that would make it quite ironic!

    • @krazyjnva2up2down55
      @krazyjnva2up2down55 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      SC has a small French Creole culture no different than Louisiana yet it goes unnoticed. I'm over 12% French due to my family from SC. That's a percentage more than I see many Louisiana Creoles on TH-cam. My French side eventually would migrate from SC to Mississippi, Texas, Louisiana and California. They married mainly black, Mexican, and puerto Ricans

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krazyjnva2up2down55 Thanks for sharing. I did not know that. Well done on the family research. Do you think the SC Creole community knows about the information in this episode? I'm not a local so I don't know how well known this info is.

    • @xtraprebel6274
      @xtraprebel6274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@krazyjnva2up2down55 interesting I am From Louisiana so I might have French Ancestry when it comes to the European blood I have.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      May want to try a DNA test to see.

  • @nib71286
    @nib71286 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Holy Crap -spoilers- unfortunately a hurricane destroyed his fleet! "What the heck!?" That really deflates the French, both parties taking casualties.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes and the storm essentially disarmed them.

    • @nib71286
      @nib71286 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@HistoricalContextUSA could you imagine getting chased and then going through a hurricane? Felt just like a Jerry Bruckhimer film.

  • @pw5207
    @pw5207 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Jamestown Virginia should be distinguished from Jamestown South Carolina which was settled by French Hugenoit's.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The title was meant to discuss colonization attempts prior to Jamestown. No Jamestown, SC is referenced in this episode.

  • @iamspamus8784
    @iamspamus8784 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I believe French Huguenots were Calvinists, not Lutherans. Good video.

  • @suzettekox6967
    @suzettekox6967 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please check: the Huguenots were Protestant Calvinists, not Lutherian Protestants

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This discussion has been rather extensive in the comments. Thanks for stopping by.

  • @cke5791
    @cke5791 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not necessarily Lutheran. Calvins was prominent among French Huguenots. Not Lutheran. Even though he was the inspiration of John Calvin.

  • @HernMasterPain
    @HernMasterPain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you Catholic any chance?

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Raised Catholic, but no longer.

    • @HernMasterPain
      @HernMasterPain 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HistoricalContextUSA well, thanks for the series, very interesting stuff.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HernMasterPain Thanks for watching and commenting!

  • @myradioon
    @myradioon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This Colony gets no credit. There were artisans and indentured servants brought there, many of whom were said to be Greek Cypriots and Turks. Some may have joined the natives. When the settlers at Fort Caroline went out to meet with the Natives there were already a few Europeans living amongst them. Pirates had had contact well before any of the major Spanish of French groups did. The Spanish easily overtook Fort Caroline because they impossibly marched through swamps in the same Hurricane that sunk the French fleet and surprise attacked the Fort. They marched the artisans and servants to their own fort to the South with many dying and descendants of these people live in that part of Florida till today.

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @JohnChrysostom101
      @JohnChrysostom101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greeks and turks lol doubful

    • @myradioon
      @myradioon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@JohnChrysostom101 It's 100% proven and highly documented. The roster of the Colony documented there were many artisans and laborers from the Mediterranean. The wife of one of the main backers was Turkish Royalty. There are people living in Saint Augustine today who are called Minorcans (Greeks) who trace their DNA directly from the many captives brought there from this colony. So....Doubt this.

  • @JohnChrysostom101
    @JohnChrysostom101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video ignore the triggered people

  • @JohnChrysostom101
    @JohnChrysostom101 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People crying about Luthrens vs Calvanists it all started with Luther period so no protestants today if not for Martin Luther the Original from Germany not the Communist from America lol

    • @HistoricalContextUSA
      @HistoricalContextUSA  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm still very happy with the episode. Thanks!