I remember seeing that F50 at Algar a week before it was stolen. A friend had a Mondial at the time and needed a ride from the dealership. Blew my mind seeing the F50. Then to hear it about it being stolen and the story of how was wild. And then where it ended up, how it was found, wrecked by an agent, the insurance nonsense, couldn’t be scripted any better. It ended up being sold a few years back by Symbolic ( now O’Gara) in LaJolla. Def worth the time to read about on F-chat.
I would not sell any high end car AND let it leave the lot until the checks were verified and cleared, OR the money was transferred into the dealer account and fully verified as legit. I can't imagine letting an expensive product leaving the lot without guaranteeing the payment first. That sounds like a terrible business practice.
Except real rich guys don't want to wait for days to take delivery and will take offense to you not trusting them. Plus most of them are busy and can't/won't come back again after you verify shit.
Its the greedy salesman trying to get cars off the lot before buyers change their mind. Thats why its so easy to trade in vehicles with mechanical problems.. they don't even drive them half the time..
I don't know Ed, getting to "own" several Ferraris for years including an F50, and only spending 2 days a week in jail while you continue to hold a high dollar commercial air pilot's job down, kinda seems worth it to me.
And not just any prison... No no no, you get caught doing this, you're not going to resort prison. You're going to a federal pound me in the ass prison.
The one and only time I scammed a dealer, he managed to scam me too. I traded in to him a Chevy 4x4 with non working front axle and he sold me a Toyota with a bad rod bearing. After we both figured out what we had done to each other we had a good laugh over it but never did business again. :P
Criminal mindset - "I just got out of prison for writing bad checks for exotic cars. What should I do today, print up some fake checks and go Ferrari shopping!"
If the most u ever got scammed on was $5K in ur line of work, ur doing really well. I own a landscaping business in Florida and I’ve had employees and business pals that have scammed me out of much more. Not that I’m proud of that but obviously I’ve been taken advantage of because of my good nature and it doesn’t feel good when it happens. Luckily, I have many great clients and I’m able to move on happily in business.
I'm early in my career and I'm pretty sure I'm being 'scammed' out of $4k invoiced to my first client. I think I needed to hear something like this. Awesome to hear that you have been through similar and moved on happily with good clients. I hope to get there myself and hope things keep going well for you!
I recently sold one of my 69 chargers for 35k. Guy tried the check scam, next guy met me at my bank, they put 7day hold on his check. I held the car for 7days, he was agitated but he did it.
Let me tell you, I’m a real attorney and some time ago, I went to a local dealer to buy a car. I gave them a check and to my surprise they wouldn’t release the car until the check cleared, which was the next day or two days later. I had no problem with that, I was glad they cared about everything being legit. Then I had a different situation when I went to a local dealer, I didn’t even had my checkbook with me, it was late right before they closed for a day and the dealer almost forced me to take the car on my signature only. I refused to do that, but there are still both types of dealers out there. Yet another time, the dealer let his employee drive me to my house, so I could take my checkbook and pay them. I got possession of the car immediately after that.
@benz500r i bet you have to put your top hat and monocle on yourself... no zeppelin and puts on his own effects, pishaw, good day to you, sir or madam.
Right now I can just see that gtr guy laughing in a car with his friend having a beer saying "hey you remember that time I had you call that dealer pretending you was a detective" lmfao 😂 😂🤣 😂🍻
I was a dealer for some 10 years and our F&I guy would accept personal etc. checks but ALWAYS contacted the bank on the check to make sure collected funds were there. Also, we'd hold onto the title till the check cleared.
This was around 2003 or 04: I had a 95 Kawasaki sport bike and I'd put an exhaust & jet kit on it. The bike was flawless and it ran great. Where I live; sportbike riders stay out late to avoid traffic. I rode home on a Monday night @ well above 140 mph and got home around 2am. I walked outside to drive my car to work at 6:40am and my bike had been stolen. That was a 14 years ago but, I know no one followed me home because I was going too fast. I must conclude a local thief stole my bike.
This is why you need locks and some hidden automated gun turrets around your yard in order to not have sneaky thieving bastards stealing your shit all the time, Ryan OCal.
There is the famous leasing scam too. Around here a guy went into a MB store and leased an E63 and a ML63 with fake ID. Made the first lease payment and then vanished into thin air with the cars, likely shipped overseas.
??? Having just a fake id wont get you a car though. He would need fake bank statements, social security number, drivers license, and all that shit. Fake credit score... Yeah right.
buying and selling penny recipes on ebay is a common way for both buyers and sellers to boost feedback scores. you dont need to create 100 of accounts to do it.
This is why I ditched ebay shortly after using it twice. Kept getting notifications there were problems with activities on my account yet the 2 times I used it nothing went wrong. Since you could not reach any "customer service" to verify I just closed the account and good riddance. Already reached the conclusion the notifications were bogus but no one to talk to about it. At least at that time.
Even the local craigslist seems to generate scam incoming calls. You can be selling trash can lids and somebody will call you trying to scam. I've met many people who stopped picking up their business phone. Interesting changes taking place.
Does anyone know how to make an honest living anymore? Thank you for the education it is good to know there is someone out there looking out for the rest of us honest people!
The truth is, - the dealers are the scammers themselves. The 10-20% of the car's price is what a dealer makes on almost every car because they could "buy" the laws protecting their "legal" business leaving you no choice.
I almost fell for a scame like the first one on a classic chevy. They said the car was stored in Bremerton WA on a military holding facility while they were deployed (the army does do that). Long story short they said put the money in an Amazon escrow account until it was delivered. I agreed but my red flag went up when they said they would send me a link. I emailed Amazon and they were clear that they DO NOT DO ESCROWS! I told the seller I already had an Amazon account that we could use. I never heard from them again. I even made a video about it. If it is OK with you I will put the link in the reply section below.
One of the things pop culture won't teach you is that a good salesman is honest and trustworthy. Getting a customer in the door for the first time usually costs money, repeat customers are free. And the best advertising is word of mouth, so every happy customer is a salesman for you. Honesty is the only strategy that's sustainable.
After 4+ years of living in the town just under SwitchCars, I can't believe I never realized how close they were to me. I bet Doug does get the occasional fan/visitor who pretends to be interested in one of his cars but just wants a selfie with him lol
I learned at the ripe age of 19 that once a shop gets a hold of your car ITS THEIRS until you pay any amount they say you owe them. It was a Pantera and probably before I was a mile away they had already stripped the engine and trans. LS short they blocked it behind a dozen other cars and claimed I owed then X amount for the services done to the eng/trans. After 3 months I had to cough up the cash, towed it away and sure enough the engine was not the original and locked up and the trans was in pieces. Took it to court, he filed bankruptcy and put the new name in his wife's name. Eventually my lawyer said he could not pursue the case without being paid upfront. Expensive lesson but if someone is a straight up con and lier and knows the way courts work not much you can do.
Had no idea all these particular exams existed. I've not been burned only because I haven''t been in the market for these types of cars. The most interesting scam/non-scams I've seen is that when a new hot car is out for the first time. The dealer markup starts to happen. Relevant because I'm trying to figure out what to do regarding the C8, since my closest dealer already has informed me prior to telling me the price that he's going to require and over-sticker sales price. The C8. I've also seen the videos in which those who are knowledgeable are saying that Chevrolet wants the cars sold for sticker, but of course cannot control what the independent dealers decide to do. In some sense, the market causes people to scam themselves by telling themselves they want these cars and are willing to pay the "premium." Last comment is look what happened with the rather scarce Porsche 911R's for a while. People got the cars somehow and two or three internet sales of the new car for a price of over a million dollars. The explanations justifying not only the practice, but the fact that cars moved for this money were the sort of justifications people always make, in particular, rarity; it won't go down because this is the last car like this, etc. Of course as time went on a large number of offerings of attractive cars became available and some of the money that might have purchased the 911R was instead going elsewhere. In the end, buying and selling or flipping is extremely tricky, perhaps very much in the way that flipping certain Rolex's is or are a tircky proposition.
On the news here in Raleigh NC there was a guy passing bad checks from the law firm of Dewy, Cheatem and Howe. I heard this and had to wonder, haven't these people ever watched the three stooges. That was their law firm. I sell locally on craigslist and I have people all the time wanting me to take the money orders and cashiers checks and I take cash only in person, no I do not ship to anyone except my friends. The interesting thing I found was, so many of them claim they are in the Marines, on deployment and want it sent to they nephew who always lives in NJ. One guy finally caught on that I wasn't ever going to fall for this when he asked, so how much should I send you and I told him to send me $500 by western union and I will think about doing it.
Years ago I was on craigslist looking at cars and found a red 90's supra for $10k. It had a ton of pics, the guy emailed me copies of all the documentation, and wrote well written emails. I then noticed those exact same pics and car on another car selling website but with a slightly different description and price. I emailed back the guy to warn him that I think someone stole his pics from craigslist and was trying to pretend to sell his car. He skirted the email and just continued asking if I wanted more documentation about the car. That's when I realized this might be a scam. I then mentioned to him that (at the time) my dad was an active special agent for the department of justice, I ran this by him, and he said it looks like a scam. The seller then completely changed his tune and wrote me an email to the affect of "oh so you're going to run to your daddy over a car?". At that point I just responded that I don't need to since his last response in a documented and traceable email was a good enough indicator of guilt to pass on to my dad's office. A few days later I noticed all the websites that car was posted for sale on had been taken down. Hopefully it saved someone from getting scammed.
Similar to your FedEx story about the Lotus SV, I had a guy use a UPS account of a real company (stolen of course), sent a legitimate check from a real business in WI. I wonder now if it was the same company. I contacted the FBI as well. No help whatsoever. They never contacted me back. I knew it was fake right off and didn't do anything with it, but still....
Haha I messed with a scammer once and got him to send a check that was obviously not able to be cashed. When I stopped messing with him and confronted him, he actually got passed off at me for leading him on and wasting HIS time!! Lol! It was a week of laughs!
Was about to buy a corvette sting ray on eBay for $69,000 AUD. I still can’t work out if it’s a scam. Spoke to him on phone. Nice guy. Planning to see it next week. Car should be worth at least $100K+.
I personally know the manager of a local Porsche dealer. She told me they sell most of their cars to clients that have them shipped w/out ever seeing them in person. Ive wrote checks for new cars & always had to wait at least a couple of weeks to get the title from the dealer.
In Sydney 1982 the used car dealers told us to sit in a private room and decide the price I wanted for my trade in. They were to go in another room and decide the best price they could give me. Then we would meet again. In my room we never spoke a word. I was suspicious. Years later they were exposed for having the rooms wired so they could get the upper hand in the deal.
One of the dealers at the dealership I used to work at, did a trade for a couple year-old EVO X that someone brought in, and the dealer didn't let any of the mechanics check it out first, and he didn't even take it to the Mitsubishi dealership to be checked either (we were a Ford dealership) and the guy wanted a trade-in for a brand new 2013 Mustang GT. After the guy left with his new mustang, the dealer finally decided to let the mechanics check it out, and as soon as we started it we knew the engine was blown. Turns out, the guy blew his engine and Mitsubishi wouldn't cover it because he told them it happened at the track (idiot) so he brought it to the Ford dealership to try and scam us. And it worked. The engine was going to cost like $20k to get a new one and have it installed, so the dealer just ended up selling the car back to Mitsubishi. The guy basically traded in a $10k car for a $35k car and got away with it. Still blows my mind that a dealer wouldn't know what a blown engine sounds like.
I got one for you, I used to work for a warehouse distributor of high performance , high end vehicle parts, i worked graveyard shift all by myself, this young guy calls me up one night, drunk, all parts for a 911, his total close to 150,000, then tells me his buddy has same vehicle, and wants the same, charge it to this credit card number and name, the last name was the same as our owners last name, everything was to be fed-ex, next day, and or same day, I got off the phone with him, called our owner, at 230am, a servant answered, I demanded he be woke up, the owner told me, if he didn't think what I had to say was important, I was going to be shitcanned, so I explained what was going on, the cc was tied to his account, he said I was correct to call him, and the order was a GO, he then called ware house managers, to go to work early, to ship his son;s parts, asap, his son had a auto show, and needed the stuff.....12.50 hour fucking job
GOMotors... I've stumbled on many "too good to be true" Porsche deals ads from those guys some weeks ago - This was too obvious, great cars for almost nothing... :-/
Happens to folks in common cars also. Got arrested for being in a stolen car with a friend who did actually buy the car. He forked over the 1500 for the car being promised the pink slip as soon as the "deceased" owners property went though probate. He had the car almost a month before we got stopped. My case was dismissed.
Over here (Netherlands) it happens, but rarely. First of all, we don't deal with cheques. Car business is cash or bank transfers where and exchange of registration papers have to be done in an official way. What happens is that pro car thieves steal your car where it will end up in the eastern part of Europe, getting other registration docs and will, later on, be sold through auction houses.
David T happened like 15 years ago. Guy played the part of someone with money. Talked his way into a test drive. Pulled over to swap drivers with the salesman and the guy took off with the car. Had a trailer parked not far away waiting.
You should send match box replicas of the car you’re selling to those scammers over seas
Yeah just to mess with them for being greedy little jerks you reap what you sow
Hilarious
Model kit, some assembly required
Hey don’t waste good Matchbox cars on them!
This was my first thought 😂
I did a little bit of searching recently on the guy who scammed me on the GT-R deal - allegedly he is dead. But there are conflicting reports.
I don't think people should die over money but still... karma lol.
maybe he went the extra extra mile and faked his death.
@Chairman Mao There were initially allegations that VRAlexander did that.
What an absolute magician. Probably scammed his own death.
Chairman Mao lmao the cherry on top would be if he some how ended up doing an interview on vinwiki.
Actually .....no I've never heard the story of the F50 but I am willing to learn.
Aaron Mikusa ill be googling that after this video.
It is the craziest story you'll ever read. Truly one of the greatest stories to ever involve a car.
I remember seeing that F50 at Algar a week before it was stolen. A friend had a Mondial at the time and needed a ride from the dealership. Blew my mind seeing the F50. Then to hear it about it being stolen and the story of how was wild. And then where it ended up, how it was found, wrecked by an agent, the insurance nonsense, couldn’t be scripted any better. It ended up being sold a few years back by Symbolic ( now O’Gara) in LaJolla.
Def worth the time to read about on F-chat.
they need to make a movie out of it and use a kit car like in ferris bueller
Rob spaghetti did a video about it th-cam.com/video/_NDtts1iVrw/w-d-xo.html
I would not sell any high end car AND let it leave the lot until the checks were verified and cleared, OR the money was transferred into the dealer account and fully verified as legit. I can't imagine letting an expensive product leaving the lot without guaranteeing the payment first. That sounds like a terrible business practice.
They're just scared of offending a real customer.
Except real rich guys don't want to wait for days to take delivery and will take offense to you not trusting them. Plus most of them are busy and can't/won't come back again after you verify shit.
Its the greedy salesman trying to get cars off the lot before buyers change their mind. Thats why its so easy to trade in vehicles with mechanical problems.. they don't even drive them half the time..
hes just putting a hundred on ten
Would you offer me a deal if I use my Amex? Lol
Don't try these at home kids. Like, seriously. You go to prison.
🤣🤣🤣
I don't know Ed, getting to "own" several Ferraris for years including an F50, and only spending 2 days a week in jail while you continue to hold a high dollar commercial air pilot's job down, kinda seems worth it to me.
And not just any prison... No no no, you get caught doing this, you're not going to resort prison. You're going to a federal pound me in the ass prison.
Most the shit on this channel will get you in prison
White collar crimes cost significantly more damage to consumers but get overall less jail time than most petty crimes..
The one and only time I scammed a dealer, he managed to scam me too. I traded in to him a Chevy 4x4 with non working front axle and he sold me a Toyota with a bad rod bearing. After we both figured out what we had done to each other we had a good laugh over it but never did business again. :P
Criminal mindset - "I just got out of prison for writing bad checks for exotic cars. What should I do today, print up some fake checks and go Ferrari shopping!"
He's living his best life lmao
The man still drives around in an exotic car that’s more then I can say for myself lmao I drive a run down 350z
@chae fugate , so is your comment, yet you posted it online.
chae fugate What do you drive then?
@@Apc2GetRichBoi That's still a nice car if you give her some TLC.
If the most u ever got scammed on was $5K in ur line of work, ur doing really well. I own a landscaping business in Florida and I’ve had employees and business pals that have scammed me out of much more. Not that I’m proud of that but obviously I’ve been taken advantage of because of my good nature and it doesn’t feel good when it happens. Luckily, I have many great clients and I’m able to move on happily in business.
Scott Paulson agreed.
I'm early in my career and I'm pretty sure I'm being 'scammed' out of $4k invoiced to my first client. I think I needed to hear something like this. Awesome to hear that you have been through similar and moved on happily with good clients. I hope to get there myself and hope things keep going well for you!
You're a good person.
The biggest car scam out there is Elio Motors. How those guys are still not behind bars is beyond me.
I don't think Elio was an intentional scam
I think it was a failed dream doesn't make it hurt any less if you put a deposit down on one
I recently sold one of my 69 chargers for 35k. Guy tried the check scam, next guy met me at my bank, they put 7day hold on his check. I held the car for 7days, he was agitated but he did it.
THATS OUR CAR AT 2:58 !!!!!!! We bought it from Doug about a month ago
I always love Doug's stories. Doug's 'I was the flipped car manufacturers hate' inspired me to start flipping
Cool story! Algar used to be owned my cousin's ex father-in-law. This channel is a gem for car enthusiasts.
Let me tell you, I’m a real attorney and some time ago, I went to a local dealer to buy a car. I gave them a check and to my surprise they wouldn’t release the car until the check cleared, which was the next day or two days later. I had no problem with that, I was glad they cared about everything being legit. Then I had a different situation when I went to a local dealer, I didn’t even had my checkbook with me, it was late right before they closed for a day and the dealer almost forced me to take the car on my signature only. I refused to do that, but there are still both types of dealers out there. Yet another time, the dealer let his employee drive me to my house, so I could take my checkbook and pay them. I got possession of the car immediately after that.
I’ve never had any special treatment
@JR Gb every time i buy a new car, I ride up in my zepplin so they know I'm legit.
@@Skrimpish I can’t afford zeppelin, but I can put on a Led Zeppelin music. Hopefully that’s going to help haha.
@benz500r i bet you have to put your top hat and monocle on yourself... no zeppelin and puts on his own effects, pishaw, good day to you, sir or madam.
@@Skrimpish it looks like that. Thanks and have a great day/evening.
Oh that sweet, sweet Rabbit burn at 3:16
I was doing that trick when Doug was in middle school 😂
I like this guy!
I worked auto theft as a Cop for 9 years.
TY for not giving the full details of how the scams are pulled
You know it'll be a good story anytime it involves Ed, Doug, or Rabbit.
they are the best followed by the pro driver
Why are you so indelible
ed and rabbits voices are smooth as butter i have never heard better voices its like carguy asmr.
Or Ferretti
StrangeClouds fr fr
Hi Doug - thanks for the silver 2009 - 911! Running great. Jon
Joke's on you, it was a scam. The car doesn't exist. :)
Enjoy it in good health. Hope your road trip home was fun!
J W Mmm:m
Right now I can just see that gtr guy laughing in a car with his friend having a beer saying "hey you remember that time I had you call that dealer pretending you was a detective" lmfao 😂 😂🤣 😂🍻
An adult who wears that T-Shirt "Sarcasm, just one of my many talents" scream immaturity and imo encapsulates Doug perfectly.
That was good tip on the Range Rover. I had one of those cars and I did not remember that detail. Nice catch.
I was a dealer for some 10 years and our F&I guy would accept personal etc. checks but ALWAYS contacted the bank on the check to make sure collected funds were there. Also, we'd hold onto the title till the check cleared.
I see nothing shady about these stories. Signed; guy who dumped Viper in storage unit.
I just watched that story.
This was around 2003 or 04: I had a 95 Kawasaki sport bike and I'd put an exhaust & jet kit on it. The bike was flawless and it ran great. Where I live; sportbike riders stay out late to avoid traffic. I rode home on a Monday night @ well above 140 mph and got home around 2am. I walked outside to drive my car to work at 6:40am and my bike had been stolen. That was a 14 years ago but, I know no one followed me home because I was going too fast. I must conclude a local thief stole my bike.
I had insurance and bought a new bike but, I still wonder which of my neighbors stole my bike back then.
This is why you need locks and some hidden automated gun turrets around your yard in order to not have sneaky thieving bastards stealing your shit all the time, Ryan OCal.
@Charlie Vetsworth who buys a bike like that and goes slow?????? Gtfoh
Now if only I can combine my new knowledge of how to scam car dealers with the advice yesterday on how to order exclusive hypercars [wheels turning]
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There is the famous leasing scam too. Around here a guy went into a MB store and leased an E63 and a ML63 with fake ID. Made the first lease payment and then vanished into thin air with the cars, likely shipped overseas.
SP392 damn that guy got lucky
Yeah it's in Africa now
??? Having just a fake id wont get you a car though. He would need fake bank statements, social security number, drivers license, and all that shit. Fake credit score... Yeah right.
@@jontetate513 Dealers are dumb. Did you not watch the vid? They gave scammers cars with no proof, b/c of social engineering.
@@jontetate513 "yOU cAN'T StEAl an IDenTitY"
buying and selling penny recipes on ebay is a common way for both buyers and sellers to boost feedback scores. you dont need to create 100 of accounts to do it.
You do, if you want 100s of unique positive feedback.
@Rich 91 Not on ebay.
This is why I ditched ebay shortly after using it twice. Kept getting notifications there were problems with activities on my account yet the 2 times I used it nothing went wrong. Since you could not reach any "customer service" to verify I just closed the account and good riddance. Already reached the conclusion the notifications were bogus but no one to talk to about it. At least at that time.
I got scammed $25 one time. I was pissed.... can’t imagine how these people felt, lol
i always say, rip me for a lot, 25 would pissed me of to, if they would ask i would give it rather then ripped for it😀
Even the local craigslist seems to generate scam incoming calls. You can be selling trash can lids and somebody will call you trying to scam. I've met many people who stopped picking up their business phone. Interesting changes taking place.
The quantity of GT3 photos in this video is excellent.
You're doing a brilliant job well done, I really hate scammers.
"This check is no good." "That's ok. The car is no good now too."
Oh yay!!!! Its the Mexican stig!!! Love these videos. Of course doug knows the scams....
You guys need to get Rob back in here! I'd love to here more of his wheelin' and dealin' stories
All I could think of was hoovie during the intro
Same
Evan's Garage wait why?
His (coincidentally also black) Ferrari 355 just burned
Same
Not a scam though.
Does anyone know how to make an honest living anymore? Thank you for the education it is good to know there is someone out there looking out for the rest of us honest people!
Best channel on TH-cam , when I come back to see family in GA I hope to meet Ed cheers from Stamford CT
3 of my favourite things in one video. Cars, scams and PAYBACK! I love this channel!
Last time i was this early, Doug DeMuro had one TH-cam channel
Lol
Golf ruins a nice day on the golf course....! Great stories.. thanks
This explains why I have yet to hear from the Nigerian prince who I sent the chasihers check for his Nissian GTR. Damn it!
real dealers dont get scamed, real dealers scam the scamers. 😎
chris Taanio can you really not spell scammed or scammers?
chris Taanio well said
Damn Chris. Sporting a chub after reading that.
Jeremy Mac He’s scamming the English language!
The truth is, - the dealers are the scammers themselves. The 10-20% of the car's price is what a dealer makes on almost every car because they could "buy" the laws protecting their "legal" business leaving you no choice.
Finally a video where Ed doesn't talk!!! I'll give it the first thumbs up of your series.
I almost fell for a scame like the first one on a classic chevy. They said the car was stored in Bremerton WA on a military holding facility while they were deployed (the army does do that). Long story short they said put the money in an Amazon escrow account until it was delivered. I agreed but my red flag went up when they said they would send me a link. I emailed Amazon and they were clear that they DO NOT DO ESCROWS! I told the seller I already had an Amazon account that we could use. I never heard from them again. I even made a video about it. If it is OK with you I will put the link in the reply section below.
video on scam th-cam.com/video/nktddI8ag8E/w-d-xo.html
One of the things pop culture won't teach you is that a good salesman is honest and trustworthy. Getting a customer in the door for the first time usually costs money, repeat customers are free. And the best advertising is word of mouth, so every happy customer is a salesman for you. Honesty is the only strategy that's sustainable.
After 4+ years of living in the town just under SwitchCars, I can't believe I never realized how close they were to me. I bet Doug does get the occasional fan/visitor who pretends to be interested in one of his cars but just wants a selfie with him lol
These stories are great and the best collection of car stories ever.
RIP mustache 😢
“I’ve sold that GT a couple of more times” jeez.
I dont know how I found your channel but I'm hooked!
I learned at the ripe age of 19 that once a shop gets a hold of your car ITS THEIRS until you pay any amount they say you owe them. It was a Pantera and probably before I was a mile away they had already stripped the engine and trans. LS short they blocked it behind a dozen other cars and claimed I owed then X amount for the services done to the eng/trans. After 3 months I had to cough up the cash, towed it away and sure enough the engine was not the original and locked up and the trans was in pieces. Took it to court, he filed bankruptcy and put the new name in his wife's name. Eventually my lawyer said he could not pursue the case without being paid upfront. Expensive lesson but if someone is a straight up con and lier and knows the way courts work not much you can do.
You gotta be so darn careful these days! I dont buy a car unless I can actually see it.
Welcome to the world of poor people.
Had no idea all these particular exams existed. I've not been burned only because I haven''t been in the market for these types of cars. The most interesting scam/non-scams I've seen is that when a new hot car is out for the first time. The dealer markup starts to happen. Relevant because I'm trying to figure out what to do regarding the C8, since my closest dealer already has informed me prior to telling me the price that he's going to require and over-sticker sales price. The C8. I've also seen the videos in which those who are knowledgeable are saying that Chevrolet wants the cars sold for sticker, but of course cannot control what the independent dealers decide to do. In some sense, the market causes people to scam themselves by telling themselves they want these cars and are willing to pay the "premium." Last comment is look what happened with the rather scarce Porsche 911R's for a while. People got the cars somehow and two or three internet sales of the new car for a price of over a million dollars. The explanations justifying not only the practice, but the fact that cars moved for this money were the sort of justifications people always make, in particular, rarity; it won't go down because this is the last car like this, etc. Of course as time went on a large number of offerings of attractive cars became available and some of the money that might have purchased the 911R was instead going elsewhere. In the end, buying and selling or flipping is extremely tricky, perhaps very much in the way that flipping certain Rolex's is or are a tircky proposition.
Sold the same car a few times. There has got to be I sold this same car X times record story out there somewhere.
I don't think there is.
On the news here in Raleigh NC there was a guy passing bad checks from the law firm of Dewy, Cheatem and Howe. I heard this and had to wonder, haven't these people ever watched the three stooges. That was their law firm.
I sell locally on craigslist and I have people all the time wanting me to take the money orders and cashiers checks and I take cash only in person, no I do not ship to anyone except my friends. The interesting thing I found was, so many of them claim they are in the Marines, on deployment and want it sent to they nephew who always lives in NJ. One guy finally caught on that I wasn't ever going to fall for this when he asked, so how much should I send you and I told him to send me $500 by western union and I will think about doing it.
Doug wth you just gave everyone watching an idea for the perfect scam at the end.
We had that concern in airing this story
Years ago I was on craigslist looking at cars and found a red 90's supra for $10k. It had a ton of pics, the guy emailed me copies of all the documentation, and wrote well written emails. I then noticed those exact same pics and car on another car selling website but with a slightly different description and price. I emailed back the guy to warn him that I think someone stole his pics from craigslist and was trying to pretend to sell his car. He skirted the email and just continued asking if I wanted more documentation about the car. That's when I realized this might be a scam. I then mentioned to him that (at the time) my dad was an active special agent for the department of justice, I ran this by him, and he said it looks like a scam. The seller then completely changed his tune and wrote me an email to the affect of "oh so you're going to run to your daddy over a car?". At that point I just responded that I don't need to since his last response in a documented and traceable email was a good enough indicator of guilt to pass on to my dad's office. A few days later I noticed all the websites that car was posted for sale on had been taken down. Hopefully it saved someone from getting scammed.
I was walking by Algar Ferrari right as he mentioned it.. weird
What about the scam where I was buying my Miata and there was no blinker fluid and I broke down on the highway 😭💀😡
Always check the blinker fluid before you buy a car, that stuff is expensive and important !
Huh
Tim Valstad what are you talking about?
Everybody knows you can buy blinker fluid very cheap on amazon
@@tj9959 I only run k&n blinker fluid. I don't trust that Amazon crap
Terran Ovnicek what are you stupid?
That stuff is trash when i adder my Amazon basics blinker fluid it added at least 1250 whp to my toaster
I love these stories. Glad I found this channel!
That last part.... would have been a crazy twist...
Thanks for giving me tips. now I can start my own scamming operation Kapp
Never buy a car from an unknown person and without seeing the car in person. Basically almost all scams involve fake checks and money wiring.
Rob Pitts is there any available spots for your next semester class?
Similar to your FedEx story about the Lotus SV, I had a guy use a UPS account of a real company (stolen of course), sent a legitimate check from a real business in WI. I wonder now if it was the same company. I contacted the FBI as well. No help whatsoever. They never contacted me back. I knew it was fake right off and didn't do anything with it, but still....
Just found this channel but i appreciate the uploads!
It does bum me out that doug broke Ed's record. Dude is the car guy version of a ticket scalper. Glad to hear he got his one good time...
That intro, if I didn't know any better I'd think he was talking about Hoovie
Haha I messed with a scammer once and got him to send a check that was obviously not able to be cashed. When I stopped messing with him and confronted him, he actually got passed off at me for leading him on and wasting HIS time!! Lol! It was a week of laughs!
Not sure if it’s just me but the camera quality looks really nice recently!
What idiot dealership lets a $200,000 vehicle drive off the lot before the check clears? They got what they deserved!
hey thanks for the tutorial. I'll be making money in no time.
I could listen to Doug's stories all day. He needs a car podcast
I'm pretty sure that the first guy Doug mentioned is Rabbit.
Was about to buy a corvette sting ray on eBay for $69,000 AUD. I still can’t work out if it’s a scam. Spoke to him on phone. Nice guy. Planning to see it next week. Car should be worth at least $100K+.
Was it a scam?
I went to school with the Ohio Guy (Ray). Funny he was trying to do the same bit with a dealership in Greenwich CT.
1:40 Dude, it's not a VIN NUMBER, it's a VIN (Vehicle Identification NUMBER).
They took that f50 to the car show in Lexington it was so cool
I personally know the manager of a local Porsche dealer. She told me they sell most of their cars to clients that have them shipped w/out ever seeing them in person. Ive wrote checks for new cars & always had to wait at least a couple of weeks to get the title from the dealer.
It’s amazing how this guy is personally involved in soo many scams.
Great interview as always but that Butler Tire as at the end was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥!!!
In Sydney 1982 the used car dealers told us to sit in a private room and decide the price I wanted for my trade in. They were to go in another room and decide the best price they could give me. Then we would meet again. In my room we never spoke a word. I was suspicious. Years later they were exposed for having the rooms wired so they could get the upper hand in the deal.
Well that was never going to work if you're alone, unless you're in the habit of talking to yourself. Hey, I get your point though.
His Story Telling is so Smooth, Calm and on point that made me Pause the video and go grab me some Hot Cocoa... lol :)
Yeah, good honest conversation, no shock and awe.
One of the dealers at the dealership I used to work at, did a trade for a couple year-old EVO X that someone brought in, and the dealer didn't let any of the mechanics check it out first, and he didn't even take it to the Mitsubishi dealership to be checked either (we were a Ford dealership) and the guy wanted a trade-in for a brand new 2013 Mustang GT.
After the guy left with his new mustang, the dealer finally decided to let the mechanics check it out, and as soon as we started it we knew the engine was blown. Turns out, the guy blew his engine and Mitsubishi wouldn't cover it because he told them it happened at the track (idiot) so he brought it to the Ford dealership to try and scam us. And it worked.
The engine was going to cost like $20k to get a new one and have it installed, so the dealer just ended up selling the car back to Mitsubishi. The guy basically traded in a $10k car for a $35k car and got away with it. Still blows my mind that a dealer wouldn't know what a blown engine sounds like.
🍺 cheers vinwiki keeping up the daily weekly videos now I have the best reason to watch when I’m on break or a heavy shift
I got one for you, I used to work for a warehouse distributor of high performance , high end vehicle parts, i worked graveyard shift all by myself, this young guy calls me up one night, drunk, all parts for a 911, his total close to 150,000, then tells me his buddy has same vehicle, and wants the same, charge it to this credit card number and name, the last name was the same as our owners last name, everything was to be fed-ex, next day, and or same day, I got off the phone with him, called our owner, at 230am, a servant answered, I demanded he be woke up, the owner told me, if he didn't think what I had to say was important, I was going to be shitcanned, so I explained what was going on, the cc was tied to his account, he said I was correct to call him, and the order was a GO, he then called ware house managers, to go to work early, to ship his son;s parts, asap, his son had a auto show, and needed the stuff.....12.50 hour fucking job
Did you at least get a $.25/hr raise?
GOMotors... I've stumbled on many "too good to be true" Porsche deals ads from those guys some weeks ago - This was too obvious, great cars for almost nothing... :-/
Happens to folks in common cars also. Got arrested for being in a stolen car with a friend who did actually buy the car. He forked over the 1500 for the car being promised the pink slip as soon as the "deceased" owners property went though probate. He had the car almost a month before we got stopped. My case was dismissed.
Nearly half a million subscribers! Congrats
chalz108 foreal. I was so happy for them I had to smoke a fresh bowl of meth!
elon musk please you're our only hope fake subscribers he made half a million TH-cam accounts and subscribed to himself 😂
1 million already 👀 they growing fast and that makes me happy :D
I remember when that guy wrecked the f430 it was on the Y bridge in Akron
Very interesting video. You live and hopefully, learn! Great job. Cheers from Western Australia!
Over here (Netherlands) it happens, but rarely. First of all, we don't deal with cheques. Car business is cash or bank transfers where and exchange of registration papers have to be done in an official way. What happens is that pro car thieves steal your car where it will end up in the eastern part of Europe, getting other registration docs and will, later on, be sold through auction houses.
The guy (Rob Pitts) with the ban from #ebay on his accounts was part of this story #bannedforlife
That Diablo SV.. I just love those cars so much!
The one where he messed with the scammer was the funniest
Thanks for your tips 👍, I’ll be sure to use this tutorial on my next ‘totally legal’ venture
This foo just told like 5 stories in 13 min
Which is the video where the guy talks about his Burt Reynolds signed firebird got ruined at a car wash?
I work at a shop across from algar, must have heard that story a 1000 times. Never get old.
Denali Guy fill us in or help us find it online something easily googled I assume?
David T happened like 15 years ago. Guy played the part of someone with money. Talked his way into a test drive. Pulled over to swap drivers with the salesman and the guy took off with the car. Had a trailer parked not far away waiting.
Who’s letting cars out of their sight with an uncleared check?!