Analyzing "Unfortunate": Five Years Later

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  • @BKCplaysPokemon
    @BKCplaysPokemon  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +112

    Premise: 0:00
    GSC: 1:38
    ADV: 13:39
    RBY: 17:02
    BW: 24:21
    DPP: 28:49
    The post: 43:04

    • @DJFracus
      @DJFracus 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Why did Lavos switch out Breloom after the flinch? It lived another Waterfall, so shouldn't he have tried to stay in and Spore again? edit: goldfish memory somehow forgot about the Taunt only a couple turns ago

    • @BKCplaysPokemon
      @BKCplaysPokemon  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      He was Taunted!

    • @barneythemusicmaker1098
      @barneythemusicmaker1098 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      ​@@BKCplaysPokemonAwake doesn't begin to describe mcmegan's gyarados

    • @Lunareil
      @Lunareil 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Just wondering, did you see the interview on Callous Narrates' channel 3 years ago (so 2 years after this incident) with Lavos? I thought it gave a pretty decent further insight into what was known about Lavos and some added details on how that copypasta came to be. Then again, in the context of this video which examined what happened and what was known at that time moreso than what we know now, I suppose the relevance of that interview may be null.

  • @samanthaw.8560
    @samanthaw.8560 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +592

    The funniest part is, salt aside, he wasn't even wrong. If he just said "this game has too much rng so i don't wanna play anymore" it wouldn't be such a meme

    • @lancesmith8298
      @lancesmith8298 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +130

      The almighty urge on the internet to have perfectly fine subjective opinions on something, but so overblown and rationalized that nobody can take them seriously.
      It blows my mind that some people wanted to look so smart about not wanting kids that there’s an entire child hatred cult on Reddit

    • @Freezermansaccountno
      @Freezermansaccountno 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +46

      He was a huge bigot he would've been a meme regardless.

    • @Nryan-ks5tz
      @Nryan-ks5tz 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      the reason why everyone clowned on him (aside from his shakesperian soliloquy) was because he was a massive asshole. he was good at mons and insanely good at gsc no doubt, but you dont get to be a pos and disregard everyone else and then whine and complain when you get haxxed rllly badly one time :((( like pls get a grip lmfao

    • @QuestionableLogic_
      @QuestionableLogic_ 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Freezermansaccountno I doubt that, I wouldn't be surprised if there are players that share similar views but are still considered knowledgeable and skilled plays simply because the way they express those views isn't in the same breadth as whatever Lavos' Shakespearean soliloquy was trying to accomplish.
      To say he would've been been mocked back then considering that in the grand scheme of things Smogon has only relatively recently stopped being the competitive Pokémon equivalent of 4chan (never ask why Koffin is the mascot) just doesn't track imo, especially when nowadays the fact such a core moral failing is basically treated as a footnote on his legacy along the lines of:
      *_"Lavos was a really good player who had a meltdown over a bad game of Pokémon and quit in a hilariously overly pompous and edgy fashion. ᴼʰ ʸᵉᵃʰ ᵃⁿᵈ ʰᵉ ʷᵃˢ ᵃⁿ ᵇᶦᵍᵒᵗᵗᵉᵈ ᵃˢˢʰᵒˡᵉ ᵗᵒᵒ ˢᵒ ⁿᵒᵗʰᶦⁿᵍ ᵒᶠ ᵛᵃˡᵘᵉ ʷᵃˢ ˡᵒˢᵗ ᶦᵍ."_*

    • @tysondennis1016
      @tysondennis1016 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +54

      He was so salty that he said "fuck this rng hellhole of a game, and fuck you all, I'm done" in the most unnecessarily verbose way possible.

  • @LoMaLouis
    @LoMaLouis 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +608

    fortunate begins to describe my series, this game rewards skill and strategy and more, I am beyond convinced at this point. After me and my opponent had a fun, well scheduled and fair fight with no luck involved, i won. My preparation was superior, my play was superior, and so I won, so I see a reason to continue engaging in this activity.

    • @InsertFunnyThingHere
      @InsertFunnyThingHere 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +80

      Evil lavos real

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +112

      I will engage with competitive Pokemon until I die, and I hope to awaken to a flippant welcoming when I engage with you all. This community is blessed to its leaves and this blessing grows stronger and even overflows. Tournaments still have a competitive spirit represented by an organ that homeostatically thrives on encouragement and camaraderie from adults that enjoy sportsmanship and are humble. The environment fostered here has created a virtuous cycle (or at least a good negative feedback), and remaining here could require no explanation because just hanging out here is significant enough to me. This will not be the end, but I may take a break after such a hard tournament.

    • @lizzerd5112
      @lizzerd5112 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +58

      One last thing before i leave you all to react with praise, admiration, and selfless warmth. Before you do everything in your power to maximize my words and thoughts, keep them in the center of your memory and hope they stay forever on your infinite time in this world. From this moment on, everything you say matters to me. The sincerest complements you hurl with intent to heal will roughly settle at the earth before my hands, and the love you spit, will bring all the warmth of a warm summer breeze. You are more than anything you can conceive, while I carry on, unfilled with sadness distilled from attachment.

    • @gnammyhamster9554
      @gnammyhamster9554 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Hi Lavos from the universe in which harambe survived

    • @corrupted4726
      @corrupted4726 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I had a good laugh reading this

  • @camsons
    @camsons 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +648

    Why would I celebrate America when I could be celebrating lavos rage quit?

    • @pikminman13
      @pikminman13 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +29

      I can celebrate both at the same time, independence from a singular mons player I'll never play against

    • @pantsumonster
      @pantsumonster 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      The real Independence Day

    • @maxmustermann5590
      @maxmustermann5590 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Bc Lavos was actually good at something

    • @pantsumonster
      @pantsumonster 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@maxmustermann5590 America used to be great at free speech prior to Trump not clamping down on corporate censorship.

    • @cynthiacrescent
      @cynthiacrescent 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@pantsumonster google Kent State 1970 for more examples of great American free speech

  • @redwarrior118
    @redwarrior118 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +221

    So funny that BKC and Blunder were at the site of destruction when this happened

    • @lancesmith8298
      @lancesmith8298 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +34

      Forget 9/11, maybe don’t forget January 6th, but especially never forget July 4th (Smogon Edition)

    • @autobotstarscream765
      @autobotstarscream765 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      The Agency is always watching!

  • @roberte.o.speedwagon6043
    @roberte.o.speedwagon6043 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +95

    Scarf Iron Head Serene Grace Jirachi player gets Flinches: 🤫
    Scarf Iron Head Serene Grace Jirachi player gets Flinched: 🤬

    • @richardfrederick6009
      @richardfrederick6009 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +14

      Rachi flinch OK. Breloom double flinch + heatran flinch? Nah bruh. Unfortunate doesn't even begin to describe it

    • @uihirasawa843
      @uihirasawa843 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

      To be fair, the flinches coming off Jirachi are 60% likely to happen, so slightly better odds than a coin flip every time. Waterfall has a 20% chance, so for it to flinch 3 out of the 4 hits where it doesn't KO a Pokemon (75% flinches) is WAY off of the expected rate, especially worse since it happens at crucial points.

    •  23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      60% vs 20% probability, it is different

  • @sharkhaos_probably
    @sharkhaos_probably 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +162

    Fortunate doesn't even begin to describe the next hour of my life

  • @vastgarlic
    @vastgarlic 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +330

    The guy who nicknames his pokemon after fantasy novel characters writes like a fantasy novel? How shocking

    • @josiebianchi3481
      @josiebianchi3481 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

      Little did we all know he had a seventh Stormlight Archives character on his team; mental illness

    • @lintecassidy206
      @lintecassidy206 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      @@josiebianchi3481this is such a banger

  • @Billymanaco
    @Billymanaco 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +137

    What I actually learned from this video is that Lavos was only half-right. It seems obvious to me that they *both* deserved to lose, as neither of them ran Zapdos on their GSC team.
    (I am kidding in case this wasn’t clear).

    • @lancesmith8298
      @lancesmith8298 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      I’d like to solve the puzzle for what actually happened in the whole videos not even five minute in:
      Two historically good Pokemon players played each other, it got very close, and RNG did it’s job as a tiebreaker

  • @Nuvizzle
    @Nuvizzle 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +147

    The part that always kills me is "This was the single biggest threat to my team" when the game literally ended with McMeghan having revealed no other pokemon

    • @joshuabrown4765
      @joshuabrown4765 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

      his lead mops half your team but "you had him", okay

    • @misteral9045
      @misteral9045 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      But it's true though.

    • @Cosplaybuddygiraffes
      @Cosplaybuddygiraffes 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +47

      By saying that, it just comes off as Lavos being hilariously underprepared for one of the most pivotal meta threats in the tier. Like you’re saying you built a team that was *this* weak to DD Gyarados?

    • @pokememe2588
      @pokememe2588 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Cosplaybuddygiraffes moment when match-up fishing backfires xD

    • @gustavolopes5094
      @gustavolopes5094 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yeah, I'm not THAT into comp pokemon, but although yeah rng was VERY bad for him, I think this actually boils down to a skill issue.
      But the part that always has me is "what is within my control is overwhelmingly outweighed by what is not". What a way to accidentally say "I didn't deserve any of what I have".

  • @lesqueegee
    @lesqueegee 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +122

    I loved the commentary you did with blunder on this, and despite the more brief overview of the turns in this video this still turns out to be another BlockbusterKevinClassic

  • @nesswednesday2976
    @nesswednesday2976 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +78

    This was five years ago?! The whole thing feels like it happened in 2012

  • @tarkusvontortellini1877
    @tarkusvontortellini1877 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +32

    I use the phrase "unfortunate doesn't even begin to describe [insert relevant thing], this [thing] rewards [x,y + z] and nothing else" irl sometimes and while I am yet to have someone give me the finger guns ayyyy, this video is a fantastic breakdown of my favourite internet rant and pokemon related copypasta.

  • @ninthfloor
    @ninthfloor 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +166

    McMeghan has taught me so many French Pokemon names over the years

    • @doc_1203
      @doc_1203 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      so real

    • @Claravermillion
      @Claravermillion 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

      He wrongly named his thundurus therian which is funny

    • @ElceePlaysCiv
      @ElceePlaysCiv 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      swampert being Laggron is hilarious to me, it sounds like a name someone would use on smogon in 2009

    • @Luzbel809
      @Luzbel809 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      Shoutouts to Ronflex, Tropikeur and Millobellus.

    • @Cosplaybuddygiraffes
      @Cosplaybuddygiraffes 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Tyranocif my beloved

  • @aldwych285
    @aldwych285 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +66

    "UNFORTUNATELY..."
    - FalseSwipeASMR

  • @reg4835
    @reg4835 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +63

    just realizing Lavos's nicknames in the dpp game are from Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive

    • @ryanjensen1945
      @ryanjensen1945 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Yeah in my mind this happened like 20 years ago and so I was so confused how he had the names. Turns out this drama is more fresh than I realized!

    • @hisho2255
      @hisho2255 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I believe all the nicknames are stormlight characters

    • @UncalibratedAimbot
      @UncalibratedAimbot 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hisho is correct, it looks like all nicknames are from Stormlight Archive

    • @Luzbel809
      @Luzbel809 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Well. That explain why his post was verbally rich.

  • @kryssthianfroynoel8310
    @kryssthianfroynoel8310 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +73

    Unfortunately, there is no footage of BKC's beautiful face in this video

    • @jvidsforyou7620
      @jvidsforyou7620 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Lol

    • @Justpassingby204
      @Justpassingby204 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      He probably got tired of people being weird

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I wonder why he bothered in the first place. You either do that stuff in the beginning or not. And even when you do that’s the end of whatever peace you have unless you casually rabidly safeguard whatever privacy and peace you have left.

    • @ShinyTillDawn
      @ShinyTillDawn 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@iantaakalla8180 It's because OBS was giving him problems a few weeks ago

  • @electricVGC
    @electricVGC 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +42

    i refuse to believe this is 5 years old i swear this happened like two seasons ago

    • @manelneedsaname1773
      @manelneedsaname1773 16 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Really? To me it seems like It had to be ancient lore, like 10 years ago or more

  • @melanie735
    @melanie735 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

    Unfortunate (2019)

  • @bananaspice1967
    @bananaspice1967 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

    We all know this was a plot by Flinchinator to eliminate Lavos from his potential place of power.

  • @g6iii
    @g6iii 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    55:30 my fav part of the Lavos drama was the pot calling the kettle black

  • @hansoskar1911
    @hansoskar1911 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    RBY felt very bad as lot of things seemed to go McMeghans way but Lavos did aprox. half as many attacks. And as they say: He who doesnt attack can't crit. you can argue it was fundamentally caused by some bad luck early in the game (including sing hit into 5 turn sleep) but 100 turns should be enough to turn that around if you are truly better. if you arent that much better than your opponent it doesnt take as much luck to beat you.

  • @_Crowuh
    @_Crowuh 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +71

    Pre-2020 being 5 years ago still messes me up

  • @charlesbyrd2452
    @charlesbyrd2452 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    All the fireworks tonight were to remember McMeghan winning this series

  • @timberlin4075
    @timberlin4075 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    the combo of breaking down the gameplay, then breaking down the writing skills

  • @yourdagan
    @yourdagan 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    Like you said last video it's definitely ~90% Raikou's fault Gen II has a poor reputation as far as it being thought of as stally.

  • @lionheartz1337
    @lionheartz1337 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +17

    The video with you and blunder is how I was introduced to you as a creator. I dont even play mons but I stuck around because I love long form youtube content and hearing you sometimes ramble for hours about this niche community has been nothing short of pure entertainment. Shoutout to lavos for raging out so hard that it spawned such a legendary moment

  • @troy8423
    @troy8423 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    I’m going to archive this whole channel onto one of those DVD folders so I can watch when I’m in the nursing home

    • @june9914
      @june9914 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Are you done archiving

    • @troy8423
      @troy8423 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@june9914 no my disk burner is only 5Kb/S

  • @PrimitivElement
    @PrimitivElement 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +20

    To insult the opposing player is so ignorant and petty. Sad really. I understand the misfortune but it’s not like it’s megs fault lol that’s mons through and through

  • @DGFTardin
    @DGFTardin 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

    Considering the character of Lavos, I can't help but feel this was cosmic justice.

    • @Luzbel809
      @Luzbel809 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      How he was exactly? I only know him for this specific episode.

    • @aname4731
      @aname4731 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Luzbel809 He was a toxic piece of shit

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      This may have been funny, and he is absolutely correct that Pokémon is a game of chance we all just accept and build around with power creep or forgotten mechanics to make it worse, but very literally the next line after the supposed deconstruction of Pokémon battling as a whole a comment makes clear Lavos has been hostile for quite some time and this tantrum is the last straw.

  • @conansglasses2645
    @conansglasses2645 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Guy lost a game in pokemon and started speaking like a final fantasy villain

  • @fillphd
    @fillphd 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Most unfortunate thing about this series was it gave birth to one of Smogon’s two jokes

  • @ohnoitsdominoes5393
    @ohnoitsdominoes5393 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    A sequel to the modern classic late 2010’s film, “HOES MAD: THE MOVIE” that somehow not only matches but adds to the original? The Godfather Part II of mons, you love to see it 😩

  • @9bit927
    @9bit927 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    The Champion theme starting when the infamous DPP game begins is fitting

  • @the_blahhh
    @the_blahhh 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +72

    I think you interpret lavos being famous for abusing luck as evidence of him being a hypocrite, but another interpretation would be that he knows how rewarding luck is, because he finds fishing for luck very rewarding himself and doesn't find it fun anymore.

  • @ROSCOE16000
    @ROSCOE16000 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    Does the title mean to say "Unfortunate" instead of "Unfortunately"?

  • @Nako3
    @Nako3 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Funny how faster the games become the higher you go in gens. Nowadays the games are pretty much decided in the first 10 turns.

  • @i.theworstguys298
    @i.theworstguys298 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    you and blunder permanently altered my brain chemistry when that video released. you two put crack in that video I swear

  • @mmsnorby
    @mmsnorby 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

    I think it's pretty hard to make the argument that McMeghan didn't get super lucky in that RBY game. I mean, two times out of two Sing clicks that Chansey won the speed tie and hit the sing to sleep the other Chansey, in addition to the first sleep lasting near max turns. Even ignoring (as I agree you should) the paras and crits, that's just brutal luck.

    • @jordanthejq12
      @jordanthejq12 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      If I'm doing my math correctly, the double Speed-tie-Sing sequence is about a .076% chance? Yeah, that's some bullshit right there.
      Can't really say Lavos closes it out if not for that, but definitely valid frustration.

    • @ryanjensen1945
      @ryanjensen1945 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +23

      You're not wrong, but RBY is an EXTREMELY rng-driven metagame. You do what you can to hedge, but the simple fact is that it's a meta where you don't break through without hitting low accuracy moves, winning speed ties, landing freezes/full paras, or critical hits. This is a meta where slam/slam/beam is a THING. Chansey and reflect snorlax are both borderline unbreakable without significant hacks.

    • @DisastrousIntentionally
      @DisastrousIntentionally 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Ye, both of those sleeps mattered for sure. But that's the nature of RBY and Lavos still chose to go for a second 50/50 knowing what could happen. He gambled and lose the coinflip twice. Both sings hitting is roughly 30% odds.

    • @raikaru0
      @raikaru0 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DisastrousIntentionallysings have to hit + speed tie

    • @BKCplaysPokemon
      @BKCplaysPokemon  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +40

      Neither Sing was a must-hit on those specific turns, one of the reasons Sing Chans is good is it gets a lot of opportunities. Obviously still fortunate though

  • @Jaeogijaoidfjlanflnasn
    @Jaeogijaoidfjlanflnasn 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    i cant believe this video ends with "and this final hilarious thing... jk lol", what a cliffhanger. very entertaining and informative watch tho

  • @rbikidportland
    @rbikidportland 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    golly GSC is a snoozefest

  • @prthedisaster
    @prthedisaster 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    ""i outplayed to the best of my abilities" ok i guess he didnt say he did the best moves, so hes right here" Brutal

  • @atpyro7920
    @atpyro7920 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    ahhhh, an hour long analysis of the events of HOES MAD THE MOVIE.
    such gifts given on America day

  • @exotericidymnic3530
    @exotericidymnic3530 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    what auspicious timing

  • @thanosvasilas4076
    @thanosvasilas4076 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Good video. Appreciate the language analysis also within the text.

  • @darkfire9969
    @darkfire9969 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This Documentary reminded me why Gen 2 was unwatchable haha

  • @aamr7434
    @aamr7434 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would you mind linking the background music you use in the description? Sounded interesting but wasn't sure where to look

  • @TechProducerOfPi
    @TechProducerOfPi 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +43

    The more Ive heard about Lavos, the more I just do not like him as a person. I don’t wish any ill will toward him but the amount of disrespect he shows others while commanding respect back is garbage.

    • @cultofmel
      @cultofmel 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

      Lavos is just a huge hypocrite. Shows others no respect but demands it himself, hates rng but frequently used rng based mechanics like scarf iron head rachi, etc. he complains about issues that he is massively a part of

    • @Pyroniusburn
      @Pyroniusburn 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      ​@@cultofmelThere's literally nothing hypocritical about pointing out certain tools being overtuned makes the game unfun, while still using those tools to win, especially at a high level.

    • @cultofmel
      @cultofmel 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@Pyroniusburn To engage in behavior that opposes your own stated beliefs is hypocrisy.

    • @Pyroniusburn
      @Pyroniusburn 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +26

      @@cultofmel Yeah it's a good thing his belief is *not* "you suck because you relied on luck", but instead "the game sucks because relying on luck is way too powerful"
      isn't it then?
      It's not hypocritical for a fighting game player to call a character broken and unhealthy for the game and still play them in tournament, they're trying to win.

    • @cultofmel
      @cultofmel 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Pyroniusburn So he's still a hypocrite then??? If he thinks a game is bad, for him to play the game is hypocritical. He still was engaging in an activity that goes against his stated beliefs.

  • @hamishcoles1379
    @hamishcoles1379 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Holy smokes its been 5 years. The passage of time is truly a thing that exists

  • @Steltunes
    @Steltunes 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    If the rby was a one off game it wouldnt have been as brutal, same deal with the DPP match (though to a lesser extent). Think the salt came from McMeghan having slightly above average luck throughout the majority of the matches and less about 1 or 2 major lucky moments, sort of like losing a dice roll 10 times in a row would feel more frustrating than losing once or twice with you rolling a 1 and your opponent rolling a 6.
    Doesnt excuse the salt post and "superior play" is clearly debatable though 😅

  • @bobjones3399
    @bobjones3399 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    we're back

  • @nightingem
    @nightingem 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Christ alive I remember that video with blunder. I think it was one of the first if not the first video I watched with you in it. Somehow it almost feels like it was longer ago. Time sure does march onward.

  • @harb1ng3r82
    @harb1ng3r82 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    How has it already been five years what the hell

  • @dinaariaudio4944
    @dinaariaudio4944 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    the thing with jirachi was, its a very dangerous double.... letting lead gyara get to +2 speed basically for free (when your check only outspeeds at +1), getting 6-0'd by it and then complaining about hax on a move that has less chance to flinch than your own iron head is CRAZY. mcmeghan was happy to sack gyara to chunk jirachi for something else to come in, that alone was worth it. lavos got beat in the gen 5 match for the same reason- mcmeghan applied offensive pressure from turn one, chernobyl meltdown ensues.
    wouldnt ever happen, but would have been funny if gyarados had some hp investment and lived a min roll tpunch. i would have just turned my router off at that point

    • @DJFracus
      @DJFracus 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Switching to Jirachi directly is also dangerous. There's a good chance Gyarados just clicks Waterfall instead of trying to set up turn 1 and chunks your Rachi. Especially since lead Gyara is sometimes CB. Switching your own Gyarados in first allows you to scout Waterfall/CB without it even gaining attack if it does DD. And even if the opponent does DD twice, the opponent has to decide to stay in and click Waterfall and lose their Gyarados to ThunderPunch 80% of the time. They might just switch out instead of risking that, and even if they risk that, you come out ahead 80% of the time. So basically you are hedging against turn 1 Waterfall while still coming out ahead the vast majority of the time if they don't. But of course Lavos got the worst case scenario.

    • @dinaariaudio4944
      @dinaariaudio4944 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DJFracus very fair points. i think though my final point about mcmeghan putting on the pressure right away and lavos folding was pretty accurate though in this set

  • @kristianmureau2398
    @kristianmureau2398 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Very early to a medium length bkc movie, ly

  • @PeterKart4444
    @PeterKart4444 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS VIDEO

  • @jack.son4
    @jack.son4 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    People are so weird online, I could tell lavose was in his own head from the vid but the racist remarks are ridiculous

  • @maxmustermann5590
    @maxmustermann5590 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Except for the DPP game there was absolutely nothing to whine about tbh

  • @AndrewRKenny
    @AndrewRKenny 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Man I can't wait to listen to this later. Happy 4th dude!

    • @AndrewRKenny
      @AndrewRKenny 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This was great. It's honestly super crazy seeing how much every metagame has evolved since this match despite the most recent of the bunch being like six years old at the time.

  • @varelasensei
    @varelasensei 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    All i'm saying is i spam kabutops in adv ou and im having a blast getting wrecked

  • @maeve7220
    @maeve7220 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    Fortunate does describe

  • @doc_1203
    @doc_1203 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    jesus its been 5 years already

  • @mushi1480
    @mushi1480 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Happy UNFORTUNATELY day!

  • @felicityc
    @felicityc 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    34:00 my policy for talking during any competitive game is that I will only talk in an open all-team chat (in case its a team game) using xD or ? depending on whether I'm mad or trying to be toxic, respectively

  • @vanesslifeygo
    @vanesslifeygo 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    this deep dive is convincing me to run scarf Rotom in Gen IV. everyone else seems to run that anyway

    • @catandfishfc
      @catandfishfc 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      My go-to move is to double to scarf thunder punch flygon on dragon dance

  • @rbikidportland
    @rbikidportland 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Has someone made an animated version of this whole engagement bc if not they should

  • @GeorgMaUlWurf
    @GeorgMaUlWurf 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I am trying really hard to make it past the first battle but who decided itd be a good idea to have 12 leftovers in a game? this is so boring xD

  • @jjhfr984
    @jjhfr984 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Does anybody have a link to the analysis of the match with blunder mentioned at the start??

    • @AGC_MBC
      @AGC_MBC 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Ok I guess youtube gets mad when you put a link in a comment, but you’ll find it if you search Lavos vs McMegan

    • @jjhfr984
      @jjhfr984 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@AGC_MBC Ty

  • @colfortynine
    @colfortynine 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    ty uncle sam and jesus

  • @michellgutierrez3937
    @michellgutierrez3937 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Omg all his pokemon nicknames are stormlight archive references 💀💀💀💀

  • @FlaskFlash
    @FlaskFlash 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Most mythical moment in competitive history.

  • @junnochang6372
    @junnochang6372 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cooking the essay is so funny to me. bkc might be the goat

  • @vaughnrudy8084
    @vaughnrudy8084 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    This is so real. Competetive pokemon is balls

    • @june9914
      @june9914 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Eh this is a once in a blue moon type thing

    • @michaeltabarroni70
      @michaeltabarroni70 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @june9914 it still shows the deranged potential RNG holds in Competitive Pokemon.

  • @gabrielduguay5783
    @gabrielduguay5783 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I didnt ask for this vid but I needed it

  • @Rose-ez7yn
    @Rose-ez7yn 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    WHAT WAS IT WHAT WERE YOU GONNA MENTION AT THE END I NEEEEED TO KNOW

  • @everettw.9610
    @everettw.9610 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I think *some* people in the competitive sphere from playing nuzlockes more often. It might make them more comfortable with playing around luck.

  • @georgebutler3323
    @georgebutler3323 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Lavos was a tool, this copypasta is so funny, but also the luck elements in this game suck lmao.

  • @shortpitched713
    @shortpitched713 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Liked, loved, subscribed, favorited, upvoted, updooted, updawged, etc.

  • @EpicVideoMaster11
    @EpicVideoMaster11 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Finally found your account again

  • @zate5355
    @zate5355 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Kinda turned into BKC the Script Doctor at the end there.

  • @supremegoesviral9922
    @supremegoesviral9922 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    the original video from blunders channel went triple platinum in the hood.

  • @esralper00
    @esralper00 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

    II feel like playing games like pokemon on a high level, you forfeit the right to blame the effect of percentages on your success as pokemon is a game that is inherently based on percentages. you get hit by bad luck as much as any other player, and if bad luck causes you to lose, sucks to be you, but pokemon is not a deterministic game that you can expect to win every single game solely on "superior play", I'm sure Lavos had won many games in his time playing pokemon where the opponent had the "superior play". I respect his descision to quit because of reliance on luck, but to claim such moral highground while doing so is beyond me.

  • @zachwesson7848
    @zachwesson7848 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I can't believe this was 5 years ago

  • @invisibilius1978
    @invisibilius1978 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    ngl I do think if he was so worried about lead dd gyarados he should have gone hard rachi. if it's banded then he still lives (albeit uncomfortably) and he knows it's not an incredibly threatening build. hindsight 2020 tho

  • @danf7411
    @danf7411 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    isn't this guy right, just ahead of the curve by years. now everyone is moaning about what he moaned about years ago? or did i miss something

    • @danf7411
      @danf7411 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      well he said weird shit but wasnt he complaining about perma flinch and para somewhere, maybe i mixed it up with another rage post

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Flinch and para are why Lavos lost against McMeghan in that match, so he would complain about it.

    • @vreeze33
      @vreeze33 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Haven't people been complaining about this for as long as it's been in the games?

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes. However, only now are people starting to realize they had accepted what is actually such an oversized influence on games simply by allowing the paralysis status, and especially in Gen 9 where setup sweepers exist even one flinch against the best counter is probably a win. That is, people are now realizing para and flinching should have been more contentious and only various subtle details prevented that.

  • @jemmabean
    @jemmabean 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Pretentious comes from pretense, not pretend. Good analysis though! ❤

  • @Lorendrawn
    @Lorendrawn 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Slay the Spire players can attest: having bad games through RNG is just a part of gaming. Ouch gg we lost. If you wanted control over every aspect of a competitive sport take up boxing or something physical LOL

  • @HugeZorse
    @HugeZorse 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    YES

  • @tysondennis1016
    @tysondennis1016 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    He's out of line, but he's right. The RNG can make skill irrelevant.

  • @smittz_
    @smittz_ 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    why didn't he run inner focus in singles ? is he stupid ?

  • @janehrahan5116
    @janehrahan5116 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    I have no stake in this beef, I am seeing this whole thing the first time here, I did do the calc (from % rather than raw numbers makes it hard to say). The most outrageous (heh) rng is that according to my damage calc (I did a couple ev spreads to try and dial in the bulk of the mon being hit and assumed the chomp was max attack with attack nature), it was likely a 15/16 range, and that 1/16 snowballed what could have been an even, or Lavos favored game, into an easy sweep. Nothing else I saw was game winning on its own, but I do think there is merit to not liking the rng in pokemon competitively. That said, it seems like the kinda thing you'd know going into pokemon. You realize its a random game when you first play at 6 and get a crit on a gym leader.

    • @Lynx-xl7iy
      @Lynx-xl7iy 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Wasn't adamant nature since it outspeed, unless it's somehow scarf adamant chomp which is bad since you get outspeed by base 100 scarf

    • @janehrahan5116
      @janehrahan5116 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Lynx-xl7iy I re did the calcs based on the damage and common ev spreads, if it was speed nature then it was still a low roll for damage in most cases. I would need to know exact ev spreads and the hp number (not %) to know for sure though.

  • @th2112
    @th2112 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hell yeah dude

  • @maxmustermann5590
    @maxmustermann5590 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Man ADV phys offence does so well in tournament, but you'll hate on it till you die, won't you? Lol

  • @59hawks
    @59hawks 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I never realized how stall heavy GSC was...

  • @dio8451
    @dio8451 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I searched several times in the past for a video by you covering this. What a legendary rant.

  • @Miss-Alexis
    @Miss-Alexis 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    Today is my birthday!

    • @jake9107
      @jake9107 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      happy birthday!
      to AMERICA 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

    • @jabbadahut8588
      @jabbadahut8588 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Happy birthday 🎉

    • @pantsumonster
      @pantsumonster 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Happy birthday

  • @soma467
    @soma467 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The greatest serie of all time

  • @ShinyTillDawn
    @ShinyTillDawn 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Finch made Lavos rage quit the community, not McMeghan!!

  • @toastprobably9774
    @toastprobably9774 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Who cares about america when you can play DPP ou

    • @Cobalt957
      @Cobalt957 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Who cares about dpp when you can play UsUm ou

  • @jamietuohy4523
    @jamietuohy4523 13 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would say Aaron CybertronVGC at worlds got haxed way worse than lavos did