I ordered two days ago a new 2020 yz250f After test it. Very easy to ride and the engine is so good, also in 3 gear at low rpm....you don’t need to use the clutch! Yamaha did really a fantastic bike 👌
Alessandro Senni I’m seriously considering the new yzf250 for a kinda do all bike that I could do some woods riding with too. Did you get a chance to test one before purchasing ? How is the power delivery and smoothness of power? Thanks for any information!
Chad Walker yes, i try one and the power is something like an electric one. You have power but also so much control on it. Very good traction. I try the bike only with standard map.
Still getting a '21 Suzuki RMZ250 in a few days ! Owned almost all brands. The RMs /RMZs have been a blast..ultra reliable..well built (better than Kawasaki boys!) an fast as any. Choose what you like best. Support ur local dealer. Race ur local tracks!
Sorry, but Michael Lindsay reviews are way more detailed, and with different rider skill levels (C,B,A&VET). Not everyone who watched this has this speed.
Tyson Tollstrup They are not the same... they literally go through all the changes. Jesus people just love to hear what they want to hear and cry about it 😂
Exactly. I found an amazing price on a brand new 2020 kx 250. When I ride on the weekend its all about how much fun I can have and keeping my mind off of going back to work on monday 😭
At first congratulations to MXA to be the first to show a 250 shootout. Thankyou! About the video, good information but too much detailed information and wayy too fast speech! It was a rush to understand! You said good inputs to distingue from novice to pro which is what a shootout should look like. We don’t care about dyno charts when on the track it feels differently. We care about the feeling, price, principal points , plus and negatives from each other. Good video after all, just trying to help you improve as much you had helped me to choose bikes :)
Its your shootout MXA and you can pick whoever you want but you lost what little credibility you have left this time by contradicting priorities you have had in the past and making contradictions within this shootout itself. The kx has the most horsepower in the class this year(mxa priority in past shootouts) yet you say the Suzuki Rmz has a better engine. ..The same bike you rate in last place... I don't really trust the mxa reviews or even enjoy the delivery or presentation anymore. No dyno charts, no rider opinions, no logic in how you came to where each bike placed. I will buy a new bike based on experiences I have had with a brand and dealer and the summation of other test riders opinions outside of the magazine, fake news consortiams.
Kawasaki its 1st in horsepower, 3rd lightest, great suspension, ergonomics, good clutch. They dont put only electric starter... And 5th place, this is so stupid...
And... Kawasaki take titles in Ama motocross, and they have bad luck for 3 titles in Ama Supercross. In Europe they dont have good riders in Mx1, in Mx2 they have 8-9 motorcycles, but they won EMX 250 title, Woman mx title, Australian Mx title and more...
I checked out a Kawi 250 on the showroom floor and I thought it should have an electric start too... however, the salesman said go ahead and start it. It started on the first kick. Fuel injection and computers have made four strokes much easier to start. I would guess there are pro's and cons to each. If you are not a pro racer, than probably any of those bikes would be good. Also, you can't go by how the Factory Teams do in SX and MX, because those are highly modified bikes, an insane amount of effort goes into championships, riders, etc. So I agree with everyone who said they would probably be happy with any of them... one can always modify a little to tweak. Cheers.
“Gets to the meat of the powerband easier than any other 250” dude you are killing me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 of everything you said I disagree with at least about yahmaha I agree with. That yz is hard to turn down.
Perfect bike is one that looks as good as the Suzuki, engine and connectivity tech as the Yamaha and reliability of the Honda. When that bike is made I'll pony up and put it in the garage.
Most of us don’t need or want electric start on a 250f. I see so many dead batteries and faulty starting electronics at the tracks. Kickstart is rock solid, and they start so easy.
Great shootout, great explanation and I definitely bought the right bike. The 250 field is going to get way more interesting in the next years, as all the manufacturers switch to finger follower heads and find power, and improve their suspension.
They have evolved enough, fast enough, etc anything more is just adding unnecessary cost , we dont need no traction control, that's the point of riding dirt instead of pavement, if there isn't tire spin clutch control etc. What's there to separate anything
Thanks for shootout, I enjoy watching these. I do have a question, quite often throughout the video you make mention the "Engineers decided to do this or they choose to do that" etc. Are these comments based on actual conversations with the engineers or just assumptions or observations of the final product?
I'm just wondering what your shootout results would look like if you... #1 Got out of the state of California #2 With a different group of riders. #3 Rode at more than 3 or 4 tracks (that pretty much have the same dirt). Like maybe arrange a test with local (pro,int,vet) riders at a high elevation track in Colorado, a red clay track in Oregon a midwest loam track and a sand track in Florida. Average those results together and/or rank them separate. I'd love to see what the results of this would be.
Are you sponsoring the travel expenses? or volunteering to drive the bikes to the different tracks. Michael Lindsey needs some sponsors for his shoot outs. Where do you ride?
@@emilopffer1069 If MXA can't cover a gas bill and some truck stop food they have issues, however, I would definitely volunteer to do the driving. I also have access to a few private tracks they can come ride free of charge if they wanted to come test in Oregon. I mainly ride in NorCal, Oregon, Washington and Idaho but have traveled around the country racing over the years.
So since everyone is make these top end screamers, does that mean a couple year older bike May be better for an amateur? Like 15-16 honda or 17-18 Kawasaki
I bought a 2019 yz250f slightly used in late 2019 after taking a break from dirtbikes for 4 years and only riding 85cc and 125cc 2 strokes before this and i could not be happier, feels a tad more powerful than my buddies 2020 husqvarna fc 250 in my opinion as you pretty much have to ride that bike like a 125 2-stroke to get to all the power and i love the comfort of not having to be "on the pipe" at all times, both great bikes though
some please help i’m stuck i am trying to decide between 2020 honda 250r and 2020 ktm 250sxf i’m not sure what one i’m going to get please give me your thoughts and reasoning
@@Jabooty_Williams because I actually graduated from college and understand English. If I have five cars and I say car b is the second heaviest that means it's the second heaviest where is the first would be the first heaviest. Also this guy can't pronounce any words correctly, literally a gaff every other sentence. This dude is f****** cringe and should be fired I hate watching interviews get someone that can actually speak.
@@4touchdowns1game29 if it is the 5th heaviest bike and there are 6 bikes that would not make the bike the lightest. What he said was completely valid and nothing wrong. He could have chose to say 2nd lightest or 5th heaviest. Either way is complete relevant.
I watched the whole shootout and although I'm a Yamaha guy I don't think a bike should come in 2nd because it is great for novice riders. It's like some bikes are penalized by being geared for racing versus ones that are easier to ride. Your shootout needs to be more consistent with what characteristics you give points for and characteristics you deduct points. You need to follow the same parameters for each bike. If you're scoring bikes for competition quality or NOT then do it across the board. Dirt Bike did the same thing with their 2018 2 stroke shootout where they ranked the TM125 last because it was a superior race bike that required a skilled rider to keep it on the pipe in order to use all of its strengths. The bike was superior and finished last.
Excellent shootout, Very tough choices this year , but do to budget for me my 1st choice would be a new leftover, Ive Seen new ones for $5000 before which is amazing! Or maybe even a very low hour garage queen used 1 a year or 2 old which I see for around $4000 quite a bit
So because KTM has been winning in their shootouts a lot recently means they're biased? Last year Yamaha won their 250 shootout, they still go in-depth with the negatives on KTM's and last year they even said that the newest model had gotten worse. Yet everyone will go running to the vital mx shootout which is made in 2 days and lets not forget vital is sponsored by honda.
@@motoson76 mxa results are nearly always the total opposite then the other bike magazines. Not just vital mx. But dirtbike magazine, swamp moto live and racer x and Michael Lindsay.
@@alexandrakingi8502 Well just because their results are completely different doesn't mean they're wrong or biased. MXA is the only one to spend months going in-depth with every bike to find the pros and cons and pick which bike is best for each rider.
@@mahaniamir I'm aware of what engine displacement we're talking about but if it was KTM action magazine as you said then surely KTM would win in both the 250 and 450 divisions every single year. Yet it doesn't, and when another brand steps it up and dethrones the KTM, mx action will put them at the top. Also please elaborate on why 250 was such a hard category.
I feel like these shootouts are almost pointless. Pretty much no one I know leaves their bike stock. I don't ride a Suzuki, but for example they got dead last and their issues could be fixed with a simple fork swap or revalve, maybe just a higher clamp offset to boost stability, and a high comp piston and a pipe...you get what I'm saying. The most important factor to me is reliability, What I'd like to see is a shootout for the used market, take all brands of bikes from 5+ years ago, and see what issues they had not mentioned here (like the 14-15 yz250f throwing rods at 50-60 hrs). 09 450r having awful flame out and decompression pins breaking, hell, even the 2019 crf450r and it's overheating issues. The 13-14 Kx450f and it's tip sensor issues. Etc etc
The problem with a shootout of bikes 5 years + old is that nobody cares, if your holding on to a four-stroke for 5 years expect Probloms and if your buying a 5 year old four-stroke your a moron, 99% of riders buying a new four-stroke will sell the bike within a year or 2 for far less than they paid and let the financially poor deal with all the problems that arise, hence why I stick to my old 2 stroke that I can fix myself.
@@jdc9128 Quite the contrary, I believe one to be a fool if they spend $7k - $10,000 on a dirtbike and don't even race at the privateer level. Weekend warriors (the vast majority of the market) can get used bike for 2-3k that is solid shape and lasts for years if you know which to buy (hence me suggesting the older bike shootout for reliability). There are many 07/08 Crf450rs out there still bone stock today that you can still get on and rip. And if you have any skills a man should have, you can easily put a top end in it, some new valves in it for extremely cheap if you do it yourself and you're good to go for many more hours. But hey, keep the economy booming if you've got it like that. But if you make around 100k a year and spend 10 percent of your total pre-tax income on a dirtbike, your priorities are shit in my personal opinion.
I bought MXA magazine every month for 7 years in row from 1988 to 1994. Paying every copy about 15 bucks in Italy and almost learning by heart every word. From what I see now, things got worse with MXA shootouts they're not able to analize with precision all the aspects a dirt bike has. It a resume, that doesn't satisfy me. Go back to your roots MXA.
Amazed Suzuki is still around. No factory team or really any bike updates means you have to be a diehard fan to buy one. Shame miss their dominating days with RC and dungy.
Terry Moore none of the brands pay for ANY of the tests. Why would KTM pay for a test when all they had to do for 5 years straight was vent the air box.. doesn’t seem cost effective or worth the bad PR LOL
As always, excellent! Thanks MXA. However, I have a hard time thinking that the Husky engine will not dyno exactly like the ktm after drilling a few one inch holes on the air filter cover., unless the cams and exhaust systems are different. Are you using a DynoJet unit? Readings seem a bit high.
These shoot outs are pointless. All of these bikes are more than any average rider can handle. Racers will change the bike to suite their needs. Instead of pitting the bikes against each other, perhaps just offer riding impressions. What is the point of rating them if the differences are tantamount to errata?
Yamaha are the most owner friendly/easiest for your average racer to set up, easiest to maintain and own with easy suspension servicing and wifi maintenance and the power can be greatly improved with a dyno tune,not the shit tunes that seem to be floating around the internet.
I don't recall a single mention of the Power Tuner app for the yamaha which is a huge plus, but you sure do hear about the KXF and RMZ not having electric start. Whatever it takes to put KTM on top.
@Badass Skeptic Ktms perform well when they are going but aint no where near as reliable as the yamaha or honda. My mates have owned ktm but called them atm`s after awhile and went to yamaha.
@@MX-CO , Not slow by any means.The fastest bike in this class has 10% more power. The average rider won't even use all the power. I'm 6' ,190lbs and it's fast enough for me.
@@2DclanSnipingTeam I was kinda being Sarcastic, I don't really think there is anything wrong with The RMZ 250 If anything the manufacturers are killing the sport by evolving the bikes past 96% of the people's ability and Raising the price to match the New tech it's Real dumb you would think some much smarter people than me would figure that out
i wish normal riders like most of us could test these bikes ourselves and come up with our own opinions. everyone has their own experience with the bikes they have owned. i for instance would say theres no bike more reliable than suzuki.. no easier bike to ride and enjoy than a honda but yamaha just feels more powerful. the 3 i own all have their own characteristics and things i love like mentioned. but to say 1 bike is much better than the other is BS the competition is just too stiff for any manufacturer to make a POS bike. any one would choose the one he feels most comfortable on.. you'd be a total goon to choose power over how you feel when riding the bike.
I really dont care about the results all the new bike are pretty sick. But dont you watch your videos before you post them. Some things should have been caught in the editing.
I can’t take this guy seriously after I heard hoosqavarna
DerekPS can’t agree more smh
That's a legitimate pronunciation.
@@LJFZR no its really not. I dont know how u all come up with HusqAvarna.
he said it right pussy lol
as a Swedish person, I feel insulted that you say he pronounces it right. honestly
somebody answer this man, who's Kavarna?
coffe shop
blubug768 I was thinking the same thing😂
the husky chap
he said it right pussy lol
He was closer than most people:
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Did anyone else realize how he said Husqvarna
hoooskverna lmao 😂
Yes it was annoying 😂
Yeah I did 😂😂😂😂
Riley Walton pissed me off
@@JamesRailProductions. Hus Q Varna
Oops , you accidentally said last year was a glorious victory for Husqvarna. While talking about the Yamaha.
and he also said "while Yamaha was basking in the glow of it's 2009 victory" @ 14:38
Two-Stroke Life yeah I heard that lol
No, he said "Hooosskkaaa-varna".
🤣😂 and he never corrected himself!
Legend has it till this day he still doesn’t know who skavarna is
Haters gonna hate....Keep up the great work KTM , staying true to the riders by not killing off 2 strokes also 🤙🏻
I ordered two days ago a new 2020 yz250f After test it. Very easy to ride and the engine is so good, also in 3 gear at low rpm....you don’t need to use the clutch! Yamaha did really a fantastic bike 👌
Alessandro Senni I’m seriously considering the new yzf250 for a kinda do all bike that I could do some woods riding with too. Did you get a chance to test one before purchasing ? How is the power delivery and smoothness of power? Thanks for any information!
Chad Walker yes, i try one and the power is something like an electric one. You have power but also so much control on it. Very good traction. I try the bike only with standard map.
Still getting a '21 Suzuki RMZ250 in a few days ! Owned almost all brands. The RMs /RMZs have been a blast..ultra reliable..well built (better than Kawasaki boys!) an fast as any. Choose what you like best. Support ur local dealer. Race ur local tracks!
I can tell all the anericans, that husqvarna in original really sounds like hoooskvarna. That man is right
Sir, we are Americans* and choose the term Husky. We still buy your product, so chill.
Man, that was painful to watch.
Sorry, but Michael Lindsay reviews are way more detailed, and with different rider skill levels (C,B,A&VET). Not everyone who watched this has this speed.
tide macedo alexandrina exactly
100% facts so true
If you say "Hooskivarna" one more time, I'm gonna off myself..
Seth Garrett that’s how it’s pronounced! But you knew that 🤔
jordon labbe no it’s hûskivarna
Ethan incorrect.. it’s ‘HUSK - VARNA’ Why can no one pronounce it 😂
ItZz GH0ZT really lol
@@GH0ZT77 Ask a Swede. It's Hoosk-varna.
17:03 are you test riders all trying to outdo the last? This hanging off the back is a little overkill, don't ya think? Lol.
ryanlester30 I skipped straight to this part, that’s so funny 😂 like why?
Hahahahahaha
He is speed 😂
probably just having fun lmao
ryanlester30 Still a lot faster than 90% of the guys commenting on here
Maybe one day mxa won’t be biased towards ktm
What, like last year when the Yamaha won? 🤔
@@Mockle07 I remember that that's last year when the YZ450F and yz250f ranked 1st place
But they were extremely biased against Husky in this video... which is 95% a Ktm
@@pingpong4016 that's right ktm and husky are the same this year the ktm ranked the top of the 250 shootout
Tyson Tollstrup They are not the same... they literally go through all the changes. Jesus people just love to hear what they want to hear and cry about it 😂
Best weekend warrior bike - this list but upside down
Good point.
Exactly. I found an amazing price on a brand new 2020 kx 250. When I ride on the weekend its all about how much fun I can have and keeping my mind off of going back to work on monday 😭
At first congratulations to MXA to be the first to show a 250 shootout. Thankyou!
About the video, good information but too much detailed information and wayy too fast speech! It was a rush to understand!
You said good inputs to distingue from novice to pro which is what a shootout should look like. We don’t care about dyno charts when on the track it feels differently. We care about the feeling, price, principal points , plus and negatives from each other.
Good video after all, just trying to help you improve as much you had helped me to choose bikes :)
Avelino Ferreira this is only meant to be a quick run down.. the full in depth review/shootout is in the magazine.. but you knew that!
I bought the new kx !
Great bike🤙
For the weekend warrior, none of these details matter. If you’re gonna win C class, it doesn’t matter what color your bike is, your gonna win C class.
Its your shootout MXA and you can pick whoever you want but you lost what little credibility you have left this time by contradicting priorities you have had in the past and making contradictions within this shootout itself. The kx has the most horsepower in the class this year(mxa priority in past shootouts) yet you say the Suzuki Rmz has a better engine. ..The same bike you rate in last place...
I don't really trust the mxa reviews or even enjoy the delivery or presentation anymore. No dyno charts, no rider opinions, no logic in how you came to where each bike placed. I will buy a new bike based on experiences I have had with a brand and dealer and the summation of other test riders opinions outside of the magazine, fake news consortiams.
You are so true. For me Kawasaki its 1st this year, only one think its necessary, electric starter..
NateDogMXtv wow your smart
@@adrianhristo8040 yup kawi was the best this year with the yam
I agree up your game! your shootouts suck mxa your content is in mid pack at best.
They always pick KTM because of electric start and hydro-clutch .... now they have KX and they find a way to go around it and say KTM is their love
Kawasaki its 1st in horsepower, 3rd lightest, great suspension, ergonomics, good clutch. They dont put only electric starter... And 5th place, this is so stupid...
Ktm or Honda as first, the YZ then the kx
@@noahranker4133 KTM
And... Kawasaki take titles in Ama motocross, and they have bad luck for 3 titles in Ama Supercross. In Europe they dont have good riders in Mx1, in Mx2 they have 8-9 motorcycles, but they won EMX 250 title, Woman mx title, Australian Mx title and more...
I checked out a Kawi 250 on the showroom floor and I thought it should have an electric start too... however, the salesman said go ahead and start it. It started on the first kick. Fuel injection and computers have made four strokes much easier to start. I would guess there are pro's and cons to each. If you are not a pro racer, than probably any of those bikes would be good. Also, you can't go by how the Factory Teams do in SX and MX, because those are highly modified bikes, an insane amount of effort goes into championships, riders, etc. So I agree with everyone who said they would probably be happy with any of them... one can always modify a little to tweak. Cheers.
Adrian Hristo yamaha should have won
“Gets to the meat of the powerband easier than any other 250” dude you are killing me. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 of everything you said I disagree with at least about yahmaha I agree with. That yz is hard to turn down.
Is this a riddle?
This is the same. As 20 year's ago. Never changes
Perfect bike is one that looks as good as the Suzuki, engine and connectivity tech as the Yamaha and reliability of the Honda. When that bike is made I'll pony up and put it in the garage.
the suzuki looks the best so it won for me,,
Drinking game! Take a shot anytime the narrator says “Hoosqavarna”.
Most of us don’t need or want electric start on a 250f. I see so many dead batteries and faulty starting electronics at the tracks. Kickstart is rock solid, and they start so easy.
“It was a glorious victory for Huskavarna”
Uh-Yamaha!
Great shootout, great explanation and I definitely bought the right bike.
The 250 field is going to get way more interesting in the next years, as all the manufacturers switch to finger follower heads and find power, and improve their suspension.
They have evolved enough, fast enough, etc anything more is just adding unnecessary cost , we dont need no traction control, that's the point of riding dirt instead of pavement, if there isn't tire spin clutch control etc. What's there to separate anything
Why is everyone mad at this dude, he didn’t pick the results
Jordan Capouellez no he didn’t, but he said hooskivarna
YZ and YZF forever 💪.YAMAHA MOVING FORWARD 👍🇲🇾
Holy shit. Suzuki got last place for the fifth year in a row? Who would of seen that coming 😂🤔 also "whoose-qvarna"
the rmz shold have gotten praise for the kickstart
I like your dirtbike yz yamaha 250 from ph🇵🇭🇵🇭
Thanks for shootout, I enjoy watching these.
I do have a question, quite often throughout the video you make mention the "Engineers decided to do this or they choose to do that" etc.
Are these comments based on actual conversations with the engineers or just assumptions or observations of the final product?
Sticking with Yamaha. Best suspension on the market and a powerband i'd say works for everybody in every terrain ✌
Go the YZ 125 smoker
I agree, the 19 yzF second gear up high rpm and staying in the power band was practically perfect
Thank god I thought I’ve been saying Husqvarna wrong but it’s just this guy 😂
I'm just wondering what your shootout results would look like if you... #1 Got out of the state of California #2 With a different group of riders. #3 Rode at more than 3 or 4 tracks (that pretty much have the same dirt). Like maybe arrange a test with local (pro,int,vet) riders at a high elevation track in Colorado, a red clay track in Oregon a midwest loam track and a sand track in Florida. Average those results together and/or rank them separate. I'd love to see what the results of this would be.
It would be the same. The winner is worked out before they even ride them.
Are you sponsoring the travel expenses? or volunteering to drive the bikes to the different tracks. Michael Lindsey needs some sponsors for his shoot outs. Where do you ride?
@@emilopffer1069 If MXA can't cover a gas bill and some truck stop food they have issues, however, I would definitely volunteer to do the driving. I also have access to a few private tracks they can come ride free of charge if they wanted to come test in Oregon. I mainly ride in NorCal, Oregon, Washington and Idaho but have traveled around the country racing over the years.
For a novice rider who isn't into racing and just wants to hit the trails, I'd say just pick a color.
Thats true lol
“HOOOSQVRNA” you all were thinking the same don’t lie
everybody commenting about that
Yet says Husky as well 😂
It’s actually pronounced that way!!
jordon labbe first I’ve heard
Nasty Shoot Out... Honda The Best And More Reable💣🏁🏆
So since everyone is make these top end screamers, does that mean a couple year older bike
May be better for an amateur?
Like 15-16 honda or 17-18 Kawasaki
I bought a 2019 yz250f slightly used in late 2019 after taking a break from dirtbikes for 4 years and only riding 85cc and 125cc 2 strokes before this and i could not be happier, feels a tad more powerful than my buddies 2020 husqvarna fc 250 in my opinion as you pretty much have to ride that bike like a 125 2-stroke to get to all the power and i love the comfort of not having to be "on the pipe" at all times, both great bikes though
Atleast this mx shootout gives real world numbers and details
That Honda lookin sexy
some please help i’m stuck i am trying to decide between 2020 honda 250r and 2020 ktm 250sxf i’m not sure what one i’m going to get please give me your thoughts and reasoning
Honda because.. reliability.
I like how the only time he said Husqvarna right was when he said glorious victory for Husqvarna
That elevator thing was dope
There are not a lot of premium things everyone can buy; but everyone can buy a premium dirt bike like the KTM.
Great shootout 👍
The 5th heaviest? So does that mean the lightest? How the hell do you have a job?
There were 6 bikes. That one was the 5th heaviest. Meaning there was 1 bike lighter than it... assuming you have a job... how do you have a job?
@@Jabooty_Williams because I actually graduated from college and understand English. If I have five cars and I say car b is the second heaviest that means it's the second heaviest where is the first would be the first heaviest. Also this guy can't pronounce any words correctly, literally a gaff every other sentence. This dude is f****** cringe and should be fired I hate watching interviews get someone that can actually speak.
@@4touchdowns1game29 if it is the 5th heaviest bike and there are 6 bikes that would not make the bike the lightest. What he said was completely valid and nothing wrong. He could have chose to say 2nd lightest or 5th heaviest. Either way is complete relevant.
Best commentary ever.
Uups almost buying the 21 model
I dint know why i watch this shootout its always the same.
Yes exactly 😁😅🤣
cuss not much changes and ktm is the best?
Yes you are so right and the only change ktm made from last years winning bike to this years winner was go from bright blue to orange, master stroke!
My guy sounds like a confused tourist saying husqvarna
You sound like you need to go back to grade school.
I watched the whole shootout and although I'm a Yamaha guy I don't think a bike should come in 2nd because it is great for novice riders. It's like some bikes are penalized by being geared for racing versus ones that are easier to ride. Your shootout needs to be more consistent with what characteristics you give points for and characteristics you deduct points. You need to follow the same parameters for each bike. If you're scoring bikes for competition quality or NOT then do it across the board. Dirt Bike did the same thing with their 2018 2 stroke shootout where they ranked the TM125 last because it was a superior race bike that required a skilled rider to keep it on the pipe in order to use all of its strengths. The bike was superior and finished last.
Derek Lodato exactly
I think the best bike of 2020 is the one with the 2 wheels!
Excellent shootout, Very tough choices this year , but do to budget for me my 1st choice would be a new leftover,
Ive Seen new ones for $5000 before which is amazing!
Or maybe even a very low hour garage queen used 1 a year or 2 old which I see for around $4000 quite a bit
,......I`m sorry,...I need to step out for some TWO STROKE AIR....
Crf250 is the only bike to have
tanx for another KTM ACTION results LoooL LÖÖÖL khkhkh #ktmactionmagazine
So because KTM has been winning in their shootouts a lot recently means they're biased? Last year Yamaha won their 250 shootout, they still go in-depth with the negatives on KTM's and last year they even said that the newest model had gotten worse. Yet everyone will go running to the vital mx shootout which is made in 2 days and lets not forget vital is sponsored by honda.
@@motoson76 mxa results are nearly always the total opposite then the other bike magazines. Not just vital mx. But dirtbike magazine, swamp moto live and racer x and Michael Lindsay.
@@alexandrakingi8502 Well just because their results are completely different doesn't mean they're wrong or biased. MXA is the only one to spend months going in-depth with every bike to find the pros and cons and pick which bike is best for each rider.
@@motoson76 250 was such a hard category for them to show their love toward KTM . And here we talk about 450 not 250
@@mahaniamir I'm aware of what engine displacement we're talking about but if it was KTM action magazine as you said then surely KTM would win in both the 250 and 450 divisions every single year. Yet it doesn't, and when another brand steps it up and dethrones the KTM, mx action will put them at the top. Also please elaborate on why 250 was such a hard category.
I feel like these shootouts are almost pointless. Pretty much no one I know leaves their bike stock. I don't ride a Suzuki, but for example they got dead last and their issues could be fixed with a simple fork swap or revalve, maybe just a higher clamp offset to boost stability, and a high comp piston and a pipe...you get what I'm saying. The most important factor to me is reliability, What I'd like to see is a shootout for the used market, take all brands of bikes from 5+ years ago, and see what issues they had not mentioned here (like the 14-15 yz250f throwing rods at 50-60 hrs). 09 450r having awful flame out and decompression pins breaking, hell, even the 2019 crf450r and it's overheating issues. The 13-14 Kx450f and it's tip sensor issues. Etc etc
The problem with a shootout of bikes 5 years + old is that nobody cares, if your holding on to a four-stroke for 5 years expect Probloms and if your buying a 5 year old four-stroke your a moron, 99% of riders buying a new four-stroke will sell the bike within a year or 2 for far less than they paid and let the financially poor deal with all the problems that arise, hence why I stick to my old 2 stroke that I can fix myself.
Don't forget last years yz250f blowing transmissions!!!
@@jdc9128 Quite the contrary, I believe one to be a fool if they spend $7k - $10,000 on a dirtbike and don't even race at the privateer level. Weekend warriors (the vast majority of the market) can get used bike for 2-3k that is solid shape and lasts for years if you know which to buy (hence me suggesting the older bike shootout for reliability). There are many 07/08 Crf450rs out there still bone stock today that you can still get on and rip. And if you have any skills a man should have, you can easily put a top end in it, some new valves in it for extremely cheap if you do it yourself and you're good to go for many more hours. But hey, keep the economy booming if you've got it like that. But if you make around 100k a year and spend 10 percent of your total pre-tax income on a dirtbike, your priorities are shit in my personal opinion.
Did any one notice the 2020 Yamaha YZ 250F silencer in the overlook of the bike scene??????
SUZUKI 4 LIFE!!!!
I bought MXA magazine every month for 7 years in row from 1988 to 1994. Paying every copy about 15 bucks in Italy and almost learning by heart every word. From what I see now, things got worse with MXA shootouts they're not able to analize with precision all the aspects a dirt bike has. It a resume, that doesn't satisfy me. Go back to your roots MXA.
It's Huus -kvarna not Husk-A-varna 😃🇸🇪🇸🇪
sounds better like huskie though, so rolls off the tongue better when you say husk rather than huus
@@GrowingDownUnder Yes but in Sweden where the name comes from it's Huuus-kvarna 😃
It's a town you know .
@@GrowingDownUnder And there is no A after Husk !
@@patrikkagstrom2393 hus-q-varna when you pronounce the letter Q it can sound like an A
@@GrowingDownUnder True !
Just say Huuus-Kvarna 🇸🇪
Motocross Jersey and pants are the same for all countries? For example, the honda team have the same official clothing in 2020 ? Where do I get it ?
i want a ktm
Amazed Suzuki is still around. No factory team or really any bike updates means you have to be a diehard fan to buy one. Shame miss their dominating days with RC and dungy.
mmmmmmm.......KAWASAKI 5TH PLACE??????......ARE YOU SURE????
well they need electric start
yes
why not doing shotout for 85s anymore ??? we need the info for minis too
Says Yamaha is the best all around bike. Turns around and says ktm is the best all around bike
they are both the best all around bike, just ride either one it doesn't even matter. The husqvarna is good too wouldn't complain if I had any of them
wonder if ktm paid for the tests?
Terry Moore none of the brands pay for ANY of the tests. Why would KTM pay for a test when all they had to do for 5 years straight was vent the air box.. doesn’t seem cost effective or worth the bad PR LOL
He said the Yamaha WAS the best all around bike in 2019 the KTM changed while the Yamaha didn't so the KTM won this year due to its updates
Great shootout tho good job 👍🏼
The ktm winning shouldn't come as such a surprise, it's the most expensive bike. Same old story.. you get what you pay for
That goon whos hanging off the bike like a idiot, made me laugh.
Lol!Yeah...wtf...
ive seen current pros do the same thing on a high speed straight away... what goons
@@powersportsenthusiast1986 yeah but that guy was practically letting his nuts hang below the rear fender. he was way further back than usual
Just me maybe but go Kawi!!
1:06 and Adam cianciarulos 250!
As always, excellent! Thanks MXA. However, I have a hard time thinking that the Husky engine will not dyno exactly like the ktm after drilling a few one inch holes on the air filter cover., unless the cams and exhaust systems are different. Are you using a DynoJet unit? Readings seem a bit high.
Suzuki is like the great value brand products. It cheap and does the job, but you never feel satisfied with it.
KTM action 😂😂😂
These shoot outs are pointless. All of these bikes are more than any average rider can handle. Racers will change the bike to suite their needs. Instead of pitting the bikes against each other, perhaps just offer riding impressions. What is the point of rating them if the differences are tantamount to errata?
I’m not watching the rest of this video after this mans said hoosqavarna
So I’m trying to buy my first dirtbike (I’m 16) but I don’t know if I want a 250 4 stroke or 125 2 stroke please help
Miguel Gonzalez 250f, if you are starting they are a lot easier to ride
Been waiting so long for this 😂
Bring back the two strokes!
Yamaha are the most owner friendly/easiest for your average racer to set up, easiest to maintain and own with easy suspension servicing and wifi maintenance and the power can be greatly improved with a dyno tune,not the shit tunes that seem to be floating around the internet.
I don't recall a single mention of the Power Tuner app for the yamaha which is a huge plus, but you sure do hear about the KXF and RMZ not having electric start. Whatever it takes to put KTM on top.
Só máquinas top demais 👏👏👏👍🇧🇷
Pedro Fernando hhdhc
Orange helmets on every last one and still trying to convince that no ktm preference here.
I said exactly the same thing 😁
Orange is the MXA color u dumbass. I don’t get why everyone is mad that KTMs win. 100% beat bikes.
Badass Skeptic meant to say 100% best bikes. How do they not “play” u really think KTM is paying to win shootouts??
@Badass Skeptic Ktms perform well when they are going but aint no where near as reliable as the yamaha or honda. My mates have owned ktm but called them atm`s after awhile and went to yamaha.
Wearing they ppe
Is 39 horsepower really that low ?
How much did 250f's have 5 yrs ago ?
Serious questions I don't know the answer
My 2010 is advertised as 39HP.
@@2DclanSnipingTeam So is it hidiously slow? It seemed to me that bikes were plenty fast in 2010
@@MX-CO , Not slow by any means.The fastest bike in this class has 10% more power. The average rider won't even use all the power. I'm 6' ,190lbs and it's fast enough for me.
@@2DclanSnipingTeam I was kinda being Sarcastic, I don't really think there is anything wrong with The RMZ 250
If anything the manufacturers are killing the sport by evolving the bikes past 96% of the people's ability and Raising the price to match the New tech it's Real dumb you would think some much smarter people than me would figure that out
Just wait till rm goes back to making 2? strokes
I’d just be stoked to own a 2010 any colour so as for 2020 there all awesome to me...keep swinging that hammer 🔨 to save some $ and pick a colour 👍
Hwo ceares about standard setings? How long does the engine last? How is the overall quality on weels, berings. Clutch suspension etc...?
The KTM was the best because the helmets all matched its fenders
The Yz's shrouds look so wide
Hi hope you fine there, please tell me where I can buy and how can buy from another country?
Yep. Imma get a 2019 Yamaha
KTM Action Magazine
only if that yami was as sexy as that honda. Love the blue but those graphics really throw me off along with the shrouds around the airbox
Whoqvarna he says😂
i wish normal riders like most of us could test these bikes ourselves and come up with our own opinions. everyone has their own experience with the bikes they have owned. i for instance would say theres no bike more reliable than suzuki.. no easier bike to ride and enjoy than a honda but yamaha just feels more powerful. the 3 i own all have their own characteristics and things i love like mentioned. but to say 1 bike is much better than the other is BS the competition is just too stiff for any manufacturer to make a POS bike. any one would choose the one he feels most comfortable on.. you'd be a total goon to choose power over how you feel when riding the bike.
They should call the magazine KTM action.
I really dont care about the results all the new bike are pretty sick. But dont you watch your videos before you post them. Some things should have been caught in the editing.