Frontline Foam upgrade parts: www.frontlinefoam.com/?product_cat=&post_type=product&s=x-shot+longshot&sld=8 Sabre Metal Pusher & Prime Bar: springblasters.com/products/xshot-longshot-metal-pusher-and-prime-bar?_pos=1&_sid=1adb10300&_ss=r
@@BradleyPhillipsYT that’s true, but like you highlighted in your video, if you enjoy modding for the sake of modding it can be fun to replace/ upgrade parts
I actually use a modded longshot as my primary when I play with my friends and brothers. It hits around 210 fps, which is right about average for my Nerf group. My younger brother and my dad both use a lynx, which they've tuned to hit around 220ish, so mine is just about on par with their blasters. I went with a longshot because the blaster plus the parts I used to mod it totaled at $70, while just the hardware kit for a lynx is $70, but then you have to buy the plastic for the 3d printer, making it moderately more expensive. I don't mind the flimsy shell of the longshot, and I actually like the fact that it is significantly lighter than a lynx. I suppose the flaws of the blaster only become a serious issue once you get above 250 fps because mine works fine for what I use it for.
@@Konstifr Far enough for my games. I couldn't tell you the specifics, but it probably wouldn't be up to standard for more competitive players since I just use a printed scar barrel and subpar darts. I'm not super competitive though, so it's good enough for me.
Would love to hear what list of mods you've done, I'm in the middle of upgrading mine as well to hit just under 200fps but I'm still scouring for what to do
There's better options definitely for the average hobbyist/player, but its a great entry for new people wanting to try the hobby without having to spend a lot. People just need to be mindful of the function and role of the blaster. Great for a loaner/rental in my opinion.
Honestly I don’t put optics on the X/Long Shot instead I put a cheap plastic m16 knock of carry handle and a fiber optic front sight since the rail is so wobbly
Nope, the LongXshot wont lock any more after removing the ratcheting piece. This will allow it to double-load, but I'd personally heavily recommend against double-loading it. the FPS is destroyed and tend to jam the barrel which is an absolute pain to fix.
I came back to leave another comment cause I thought of more stuff.! And, Algorithm!! So, I definitely fall into category of modder that would happily take on the challenges this now $35.00 blaster. I had to reinforce the shell of Nerf Longshot Years ago due the components inside of it, and long term caused issues with stress marks in the shell. I had reinforce my 1st-gen Nexus Pro, I thought I might fold it half accidentally one day. 2 pieces of alumininium flat bar, and some judicious epoxy down both sides of blaster took care of that, though I indeed miss the hemlock on both sides of the front the blaster. I'll change somethings the next time I put my own spin on someone else's build. Bottom line is I see the relative ease at which one might attain a 300fps blaster for the same we used to drool over the 1st-gen Nexus Pro for being to surpass the 220/250fps mark. There's no substitute (in netfmodding) for the feeling of taking a 150fps blaster over double its original fps, for less than cost of high dollar kit blasters. Not that those blasters don't and indeed, they're fun to build also. Whether it's the creation of a prototype Expanded Plunger System that was constructed from 3 previous failed attempts to get one that works 💪. Making your own primming rod, or a hybrid bolt-sled. This blaster may 'require-integration'😎 to reach it's full potential. It's pluger-system is unique. As far as I know, there ain't nothing else like it. Seems like something only a Hobbiest/Engineer would've come up with, if they given a BIGENOUGHBUDGET.🤓
While the fully modded longshot is not really a good alternative to a high end pre built at the same cost, It soes excel at the sub £50 mark. 35 for the blaster and £10 for the replacement plunger tube and you are going to do quite well ar that price range..
Thanks so much for the very useful videos. Highly appreciate the effort! 5:10 The Sabre 5x6 BCAR is the most accurate? Do you have any data for that or can point me to someone who did the comparison with the other options (mostly 15° Worker BCAR)? Also, have you seen this newer Worker BCAR model called: "Worker MOD Seagull Metal Shell 15° 4x3 Bearing Scar Muzzle" on AKBM Is it any different than the other Worker 15° 4x3 option?
The pusher bar has no effect on the prime since it's only purpose is to move the pusher and would have been way better to replace the whole plastic block that actually touches the spring.
Despite the price point, I don't think I'd ever personally run one. It's a good recommendation for people getting into modding on a budget, but I've still found myself holding my own against this at 230+fps with my 150fps Longstrike that has a much sturdier shell and a good mass to it. and the people who have them seem to have a number of issues. Though my bias to an awful blaster aside, I hate slamfire so that's an immediate no. That flex... is just too much no for my taste. It certainly brings a question of durability too. I'd imagine this being more of a stopgap for people until they can get a Harrier, Lynx or Caliburn variant.
@@BradleyPhillipsYTI’ve heard stories of their plunger breaking although it’s replaceable and other parts such as the Ram rod breaking (ik you can replace it with the saber one but for those prices and that effort I think you may be better off buying a different blaster).
@@BradleyPhillipsYT lots of jamming and some weren't able to get or keep that high FPS. Same mods, same person doing the upgrades, and a few weren't hitting what they should've been. And wildly inconsistent performance too. Didn't really get all the details though so that's the extent of what I know.
Now we just need Dart Zone to make a bullpup springer blaster. If I want to get a bit greedy with it, maybe give it a mechanism like the Nerf Vulcan where it can become an automatic electric blaster or a manual springer. It would be ver cool if that happened, in my opinion
I recently saw a pt upgrade for the nexus but of course requires shell cutting, maxingout at 250 with metal internals as well,. State side it would be more than enough power for most games, but i just like building the meanest blasters for science 😂
Was gonna say this was something inspired by the part on the lynx. They even have Orion printed on the blaster and its whole design is very similar to the lynx precursor, the taurus.
too bad I can't get it in Victoria, I really wanted on because of the cost but the 117 price tag kinda just defeats the purpose. like at this point I could probably get a seagull for a similar price from china
i currently have one in pieces ongoing a paintjob and mods, and yeah I did buy 7 tubes of epoxy putty to reinforce about everywhere XD got to say tho with the reinforcement its quite sturdy.. after 7 tubes of putty lol
Good design, bad quality. If only they spend 5 or 10 dollars more on plastic for the shell this would have been a real winner. I hope worker makes a bullpup one day with their quality level.
Thanks foam bro !!!! In Canad it's less than 50$. All the reviews I have seen, you are the only one to point out the flimsy plastic. Game face trion...... maybe.
haha... did you buy it from Argos too? I went there for one, saw the price and said... I will have 3! trouble is I've just dropped about £90 for the mods now.
So with the blaster 120 with out shipping to get 300 fps. Not to bad to be honest. I mean something else would be double if not almost triple that much.
I bought one just to get the feel of a bullpup blaster. It is pretty good for it's price. My only issue is the mag adaptor pokes into my wrist, making it uncomfortable after a short time.
to double the price of a blaster with mods isn't unheard of. to triple it is a bit much but as soon as you mention sabre in anything you can watch the dollar signs fly.
i wish i had as good of an experience with worker darts as everyone else. in my opinion even the newest release with upgraded glue is still horrible for durability i dont have the money to replace worker darts every time i fire one. the heads blow off them in one single shot. dart zone red tipped bamboos and blue tipped bamboos are the best most durable longest lasting dart money can buy
I use about 200 Worker HE darts per video, one video per week. From my observations I have not had any decaps unless I'm point blank firing into something hard, and at that point it's the foam itself that rips in half, not the glue on the tip. I do mostly use 13mm ID barrels though, are you by any chance using something tighter like brass?
I think the comparison is a little off. If you buy the blaster for 35$ a new plungertube for 10$ new barrel for 16$ a worker rifled muzzle 10$ a upgrade spring for 7$ and modify the frontend for longer barrel insted of buing the 3d print you get a 300fps blaster for you get a blaster for under 80$. The worker offerings are more stable platforms but for people on a tight buget it is a good option in my opinion.
I guess it depends on your budget. For a 300fps blaster I would consider the Worker Harrier quite affordable and the ideal entry level blaster. Choosing this instead you are definitely getting a worse blaster in multiple ways and may end up even going through multiple of them as parts break since it isn't designed for 300fps. For a sub-200fps blaster, yes this is a very good choice.
lol why did you compare the harrier with stock scar vs the longshot with the sabre bcar? I mean... you even shot a number of rounds from the harrier with a bcar, why not make it more fair comparison? I may be a harrier fanboy kuz that's what I have(I also have an upgraded lonshot), but give the harrier a fair shake in these comparison vids!
The point was the Harrier with its stock plastic rifling was still better than the Longshot. Of course if you add any other rifling to the Harrier the difference increases even further.
I think, as far as buying the xshot and modding vs just buying a harrier, at $35 dollars you're ready to play, and you can modify over time, so if a kid is using allowance or birthday money they don't have to drop it all right then
8:25 SlamFire and Deprime aren't Mutually Exclusive just pull the magazine so the chamber is empty, stick a finger over the barrel, and 'dry' fire. now you're de-primed and didn't fire a dart. works on anything slam-fire or not.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Not really. You just need to add enough air resistance so that the plunger head doesn't damage itself on impact. Slow it down not stop it dead. This doesn't require a Perfect finger seal. Blocking off the main gas flow out the front of the scar is enough even if there are a few holes on the sides of a scar attachment (varies with design of course).
Why do you keep calling the Dart pusher a priming bar? Theres actually no force pushing on that part during priming from the spring. After a shot is the only time the spring is putting any kind of force on it and its actually holding it forward into the dart gate. keep that pusher O ring lubed and theres no issues. That saber pusher is super unnecessary in my opinion as well as the metal catch. Metal on plastic is a bad idea. I was able to achieve an 303 FPS average over 1000 recorded shots on the stock PT, 45 cm barrel and sealed printed scar. After going to the silver fox Plunger, I havent been able to achieve the same average, more like a 290 FPS average now.
It is called a prime bar on Sabre's website despite it not being one. I assumed that was what it was. As for the merits of using it, multiple comments have said the stock turnaround, bar and pusher break eventually with upgraded internals. While they aren't load bearing during priming, they still seem to break from the force of firing. Definitely a part you could postpone getting until that happens though.
Curious what spring are you using? I'm at 240-250fps right now and really want to get to 300fps, not sure if it's worth cutting a longer section of K25. Also where did get the 'sealed printed scar'? Cheers!
?just get a Harrier? I think your final evaluation isn't quite fair, since you judged the xlongshot price with the hugely expensive sabre cnc metal bar; which doesn't affect the fps performance and is more of a vanity/clout piece. Leave that part off the list, and it becomes more compelling vs a Harrier.
Base blaster and FF upgrades: $97 usd Then you need a scar or bcar on top of that, and if you want it to feel anywhere close to a Worker Harrier, add about 6 tubes of epoxy putty and your time to mod it. I'd just get the Harrier.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT harrier is $190 usd. that's a significant margin over $97 usd. enough of gap that the xls has a place remember that not everyone can afford everything, and don't need it to 'feel' as good as a harrier.
@@adriansue8955seeing comments from users who stuck with the stock bar, with this heavy of a spring it ends up breaking the turnaround eventually. Of course your cost of entry will be lower up front, but you'll probably want that Sabre bar later on.
Regarding the optic - if you use a smaller one and mount it over the support rather than between, it won't flex nearly as much. I have a micro about 2" forward of where yours currently is and it holds a reasonable zero by foam standards.
Hey Bradley, While modding my XLongshot, I decided to remove all the teeth from the priming bar to get rid of the ratcheting sound. But now, the trigger doesn't work unless I'm holding the priming handle in the forward position. Did you face this same issue with the Sabre bar? How did you fix it?
Ok. Thanks. Might be the O ring on the pusher is not thick enough. I'll try to pad it with Teflon tape and see if that fixes the issue. The aluminum tube does provide a far better air seal compared to the stock tube.
I had the same issue (I originally removed the ratcheting mechanism but left the priming bar alone). If you check the priming bar, there's one tooth that locks it in the forward position. Take your blaster apart and go through a prime motion and see which tooth that is. Just shave all but that one tooth. That gets rid of the clunky ratcheting but still locks the breech closed after priming. Too late for you, I know, but in case other see this I thought I'd mention it.
I love the xsls. It doesn't need the metal pusher unless you want to never worry about it breaking. I got one to consistently hit 250 fps with a 14kg spring and a pvc spacer. I destroyed the pusher when the part that pushes the dart into the barrel got mangled in the barrel when I dryfired it. Without the metal pusher, the cost to hit 250 is less than $100. To me, that makes it the best springer for the price.
@peterlee6304 and, no it won't. The nexus pro x is already $50+taxes. That's $55 right there. To get the high powered spring you have to buy the set with the low powered spring. That's another $10+taxes. That's almost $70. The XSLS, upgraded with a metal tube, barrel, spring upgrade, and a $10 scar barrel, is around $80. A $10 difference isn't enough to justify saying the nexus pro x is better when it's internals will eventually break because they are mostly plastic.
I'll be going over some of the parts used to get the 300fps mark very soon, moneys been an issue for me recently so ive had to be very picky on what i buy,
You could initially get away with just the spring, plunger tube and barrel. Over time from others I have heard the turnaround "pusher" breaks from the force of upgraded spring but you can worry about that when it happens.
@BradleyPhillipsYT thanks Brad, hope your doing well mate. Just curious what barrel would you recommend for adding fps and compatibility with bcars? I've seen people use almost everything from brass to anodized steel
@@BradleyPhillipsYT That’s fair. Looks like it performs so well, you could give it it’s own video and compare it to other ones on the market. Seems like that’s a big reason the apex shot as accurately as it did. Not to discredit the Sabre ;)
Yes basic standard worker one, or a Worker SLA Printed Resin Scar Barrel Tube, not a bcar or anything fancy of course. Does improve accuracy in standard config. Basicly replaced the useless part x shot put in there@@BradleyPhillipsYT
@@Castdeath No it's not , perhaps the person who has it bought it privately . Coz it's clearly not in any store shelves . I went to many stores and ask em , all of them said they have no information whatsoever from zuru .
@@ArgusXIIits not that great. Its frustrating. Seems like always something to deal with... if you enjoy tinkering around and tuning it more than a techmetal guitar player does his strings its great! If you can get the game face trion its a way better blaster and usually only 10$ more.
It's probably safe to skip the sabre metal bar since this blaster puts is mainspring In FRONT of the plunger tube instead of behind, the plastic bar doesn't actually bear any spring loads; and thus doesn't need to be upgraded to metal.
@@BradleyPhillipsYTWhen that spring is on a stock prime bar, it wants to fold. Take the shell off and look at the internals without it, it flexes bad. What they really need is a metal plunger and turnaround, but prime bar i understand why they mad it, 9¼ inches on that zuru plastic is strenuous
@@rabidpichu7391starting to see comments of the stock bar or turnaround breaking from using such heavy springs. Perhaps the Sabre bar is needed even if it's not actually priming the spring.
That flf kit was good for me, but def underbarreled, im running between 45 and 50cm, depending on want i want. Both kury barrels. But with that 19 coils of pro25 50cm is great in my experience. I use a printed rime ultimate bcar mk2 i got on etsy, great design with the porting. Just ordered foamdemics internals kit, my turnarounds broke on like 3 blasters but 9 ¼ inches of spring stuffed in there necessitates eventual replacement of some stock parts, namely the pt, turnaround, and dart pusher and bar. Its been a fun project for me, i got one at release knowing id be able to make small mods as they drop for the next few months to keep me busy. This thing is gonna end up all metal internals like the nexus, and if you enjoy the modding aspect, its a fun blaster. Were spoiled with worker and dart zone these days.
Interesting to hear that all the different parts break like the turn around, dart pusher and bar. I guess that makes the Sabre part a necessity despite that not being a load bearing part.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I think the pressure it what blows the turnaround up and bends the pusher.but the sprung Def flexes it. I just put the foamdemic kit in but have to Teflon tape and tune it for a perfect seal. Bottom Ling is 300 is fps on that weak plastic, that spring smashing, it's rough. I considered using two buffer springs just to be safe but idk if that's a good idea
Ive seen them break when a dart jams in the turn around. It applys too much force on the thinnest 90 degree bend just above the pusher itself. That and the pusher rings are super thin and break. thin is a trend in this blaster. I think its deserves a v2, or even a more expensive model that gives a more rigid chassis and pusher and poly plunger tube. The silhouette is very appealing, i like the large breach open on both side and ambi forward magazine release. Also, the barrel that comes with the stock longshot is very high quality for its price point. Better than trion, and any dart zone blaster ive used. Personally, if revised, this blaster has a nice foundation to work with and mods show it can be made better.
@marijunamissle the barrel is very nice, just too loose! A dart can fall right through. I love this blaster and id glady pay 50-60 for a revision thats slightly sturdier. But cant deny. The engineering is great.
@@BradleyPhillipsYTthats what i was thinking. its more of a luxury thing imo idrc how the prime feels if i can get the kit now for 40$ on frontline foam
They probably will pretty soon. XShot has said they will be coming to Australia, and there's already a weakened 60fps version sold in other parts of the world
@@Mephiston I saw it posted on facebook a few months ago now, soon after the Longshot was released. Someone asked if it was coming to Australia and xshot said it wasn't. Then a week or two later another person asked again and they then said it was. The change of mind was likely after they saw it's success and decided to produce a lower power version.
Hey, did you take out the "stopper" spring from the inside of the plunger tube? Have you replaced it with something? (I know, don't dry fire ;) And OH MY WORD I was driven mad by this shooting at half speed every so often. I've disassembled and re-assembled it entirely over 20 times trying to find a flaw, leak, under-compression of the spring... and there was nothing. I came to think the barrel is kinked... apparently it only happens on red darts... - and this confirms this.
Entire point of foam flinging is to have reusable ammo, it would be great to have both durable and biodegradable ammo but I think many agree that durability is a way higher priority than biodegradability.
Yes but the trion is not 300fps out of the box you still have to put money in to it to get it there and it would cost about the same. Dont get me wrong i have both and there both amazing.
@@AKGarcia-b3l you mean the wiggle he shows on it because of the thinner plastic? I mean if your not trying to bend it when playing should be a problem.
@@AKGarcia-b3l oh i know but in this video you get a metal Plunger tub with the kit from frontlinefoam. Just wondering if you watched the video all the way?
@@BradleyPhillipsYT From my own testing,the full length dart actually travel faster and further in the air,it has better range and has the same accuracy as the short dart,full length darts allows me to zero at the lower postion of the target,which makes long range sniping a lot easier.
Bradley Philips! I'm surprised you even spent time with this one! I agree with most regarding bang for your buck but it's not an 'outta the box' blaster flimsy as hell and most have cracked plunger tubes this blaster is defective before even opening....I reckon xshot will get it right with longshot v2 especially if they make it the same quality as there hpg 700 gel blaster which I'm loving at the moment. Thanks for making great content I really do appreciate your expertise!
I was genuinely surprised that Zuru even made this blaster. Despite the cheap plastic, you can see some great engineering in the design. I'd love to see the engineer who designed this given some better materials to work with and not have to have full-length compatibility. Really, for a first attempt at a "pro" blaster from Zuru, they just about nailed everything but the materials. Also, it's a great way for kids without much money to get started.
@quasistellar totally agree. The design of the exterior is only surpassed by the design of the interior, which is unbelievably simple while being creative. I modded one to hit 270, but didn't upgrade the pusher. Then the pusher broke. After installing the metal one and a stronger spring, i can now hit 300 with adventure force pros, but I can't prime it with 1 hand.
Frontline Foam upgrade parts: www.frontlinefoam.com/?product_cat=&post_type=product&s=x-shot+longshot&sld=8
Sabre Metal Pusher & Prime Bar: springblasters.com/products/xshot-longshot-metal-pusher-and-prime-bar?_pos=1&_sid=1adb10300&_ss=r
How much does the prime bar cost? Its sold out rn...
@BradleyPhillipsYT There is also a metal catch from akblastermod!
@@AndrewHayes616 not sure the catch or the priming bar are really necessary to be honest
@@BradleyPhillipsYT that’s true, but like you highlighted in your video, if you enjoy modding for the sake of modding it can be fun to replace/ upgrade parts
I actually use a modded longshot as my primary when I play with my friends and brothers. It hits around 210 fps, which is right about average for my Nerf group. My younger brother and my dad both use a lynx, which they've tuned to hit around 220ish, so mine is just about on par with their blasters. I went with a longshot because the blaster plus the parts I used to mod it totaled at $70, while just the hardware kit for a lynx is $70, but then you have to buy the plastic for the 3d printer, making it moderately more expensive. I don't mind the flimsy shell of the longshot, and I actually like the fact that it is significantly lighter than a lynx. I suppose the flaws of the blaster only become a serious issue once you get above 250 fps because mine works fine for what I use it for.
How far does the gun shoot accurately
@@Konstifr Far enough for my games. I couldn't tell you the specifics, but it probably wouldn't be up to standard for more competitive players since I just use a printed scar barrel and subpar darts.
I'm not super competitive though, so it's good enough for me.
Would love to hear what list of mods you've done, I'm in the middle of upgrading mine as well to hit just under 200fps but I'm still scouring for what to do
This blaster is awesome as a cheap way to see if you like the bullpup form factor.
True, it's not a bad way to see if you'd like a Lynx for example.
I had a cracked tube and wrapped the outside with electrical tape and that fixed alot of the issues with variable speeds. Works fine stock
The special mag release is the best part of this blaster and the reason I like it so much. Were it more durable , it would be the best there is.
There's better options definitely for the average hobbyist/player, but its a great entry for new people wanting to try the hobby without having to spend a lot. People just need to be mindful of the function and role of the blaster. Great for a loaner/rental in my opinion.
Honestly I don’t put optics on the X/Long Shot instead I put a cheap plastic m16 knock of carry handle and a fiber optic front sight since the rail is so wobbly
I have a question with the no ratcheting system does the blaster still lock forward when it gets primed
Nope, the LongXshot wont lock any more after removing the ratcheting piece.
This will allow it to double-load, but I'd personally heavily recommend against double-loading it. the FPS is destroyed and tend to jam the barrel which is an absolute pain to fix.
@@dokidokieienni1622 do you know the cc of the plunger tube
I came back to leave another comment cause I thought of more stuff.! And, Algorithm!!
So, I definitely fall into category of modder that would happily take on the challenges this now $35.00 blaster.
I had to reinforce the shell of Nerf Longshot Years ago due the components inside of it, and long term caused issues with stress marks in the shell.
I had reinforce my 1st-gen Nexus Pro, I thought I might fold it half accidentally one day. 2 pieces of alumininium flat bar, and some judicious epoxy down both sides of blaster took care of that, though I indeed miss the hemlock on both sides of the front the blaster.
I'll change somethings the next time I put my own spin on someone else's build.
Bottom line is I see the relative ease at which one might attain a 300fps blaster for the same we used to drool over the 1st-gen Nexus Pro for being to surpass the 220/250fps mark.
There's no substitute (in netfmodding) for the feeling of taking a 150fps blaster over double its original fps, for less than cost of high dollar kit blasters.
Not that those blasters don't and indeed, they're fun to build also.
Whether it's the creation of a prototype Expanded Plunger System that was constructed from 3 previous failed attempts to get one that works 💪.
Making your own primming rod, or a hybrid bolt-sled.
This blaster may 'require-integration'😎 to reach it's full potential.
It's pluger-system is unique. As far as I know, there ain't nothing else like it. Seems like something only a Hobbiest/Engineer would've come up with, if they given a BIGENOUGHBUDGET.🤓
While the fully modded longshot is not really a good alternative to a high end pre built at the same cost,
It soes excel at the sub £50 mark.
35 for the blaster and £10 for the replacement plunger tube and you are going to do quite well ar that price range..
Thanks so much for the very useful videos. Highly appreciate the effort!
5:10 The Sabre 5x6 BCAR is the most accurate?
Do you have any data for that or can point me to someone who did the comparison with the other options (mostly 15° Worker BCAR)?
Also, have you seen this newer Worker BCAR model called:
"Worker MOD Seagull Metal Shell 15° 4x3 Bearing Scar Muzzle" on AKBM
Is it any different than the other Worker 15° 4x3 option?
The two Worker BCARs you mention I haven't tried yet. But they are different angles for each design so would perform differently.
The pusher bar has no effect on the prime since it's only purpose is to move the pusher and would have been way better to replace the whole plastic block that actually touches the spring.
i wanna see like a sbl 2.0 review
hope gavinfuzzy give you the parts
With you, Dankpods, and the Doom Retro source port Australia seems to have some dedicated hobbiests for all crafts.
I have mine hitting at 300 and it was so EASY!
Despite the price point, I don't think I'd ever personally run one. It's a good recommendation for people getting into modding on a budget, but I've still found myself holding my own against this at 230+fps with my 150fps Longstrike that has a much sturdier shell and a good mass to it. and the people who have them seem to have a number of issues.
Though my bias to an awful blaster aside, I hate slamfire so that's an immediate no. That flex... is just too much no for my taste. It certainly brings a question of durability too. I'd imagine this being more of a stopgap for people until they can get a Harrier, Lynx or Caliburn variant.
What issues have you seen people have with the XSL?
@@BradleyPhillipsYTI’ve heard stories of their plunger breaking although it’s replaceable and other parts such as the Ram rod breaking (ik you can replace it with the saber one but for those prices and that effort I think you may be better off buying a different blaster).
@@BradleyPhillipsYT lots of jamming and some weren't able to get or keep that high FPS. Same mods, same person doing the upgrades, and a few weren't hitting what they should've been. And wildly inconsistent performance too. Didn't really get all the details though so that's the extent of what I know.
Now we just need Dart Zone to make a bullpup springer blaster. If I want to get a bit greedy with it, maybe give it a mechanism like the Nerf Vulcan where it can become an automatic electric blaster or a manual springer. It would be ver cool if that happened, in my opinion
I can see bullpups becoming more popular as people realise the benefits
I believe that Longshot is the direct successor to Nexus pro but cheaper and with more potential for modding
Definitely capable of higher velocity than the Nexus Pro.
I recently saw a pt upgrade for the nexus but of course requires shell cutting, maxingout at 250 with metal internals as well,. State side it would be more than enough power for most games, but i just like building the meanest blasters for science 😂
Plunger tube cracking.
How to get into contact for a slynx commission build?
You might want to contact SL@KIMCHI on discord
i mean you can kind of deprime a slam fire blaster
The Lynx does have a thumb mag release piece.
Nice, will have to look into getting one for mine. Didn't come with one originally.
Was gonna say this was something inspired by the part on the lynx. They even have Orion printed on the blaster and its whole design is very similar to the lynx precursor, the taurus.
Some Aussie made a printable upgrades kit for it as well (performance mods).
Yep. No point in spending nearly $100 on a metal pusher for a blaster this cheap
@@doublestriker4952 tbh I was quite disappointed in the quality of the Longshot... but then again I am spoiled by worker's nonstop hits. 😅
@@MonarchNerf It’s a 30 USD blaster tbh, for what it is it’s fine but you need to replace its internals
too bad I can't get it in Victoria, I really wanted on because of the cost but the 117 price tag kinda just defeats the purpose. like at this point I could probably get a seagull for a similar price from china
i currently have one in pieces ongoing a paintjob and mods, and yeah I did buy 7 tubes of epoxy putty to reinforce about everywhere XD
got to say tho with the reinforcement its quite sturdy.. after 7 tubes of putty lol
Good to hear it can be improved!
@@BradleyPhillipsYT with exactly 7 tubes of epoxy putty 😅
Good design, bad quality. If only they spend 5 or 10 dollars more on plastic for the shell this would have been a real winner. I hope worker makes a bullpup one day with their quality level.
Thanks foam bro !!!! In Canad it's less than 50$. All the reviews I have seen, you are the only one to point out the flimsy plastic.
Game face trion...... maybe.
Got three of these....paid £17.50 (GB)
haha... did you buy it from Argos too? I went there for one, saw the price and said... I will have 3! trouble is I've just dropped about £90 for the mods now.
45 cm barrel, metal plunger tube and 7 inches of K25. All from out of darts. INSANE
So with the blaster 120 with out shipping to get 300 fps. Not to bad to be honest. I mean something else would be double if not almost triple that much.
I bought one just to get the feel of a bullpup blaster. It is pretty good for it's price. My only issue is the mag adaptor pokes into my wrist, making it uncomfortable after a short time.
to double the price of a blaster with mods isn't unheard of. to triple it is a bit much but as soon as you mention sabre in anything you can watch the dollar signs fly.
My guess for the horrible deviation is the air seal
the resin the fps is so low is because kids will try to dry fire it and do it over and over again and that is bad for the spring
My scope fits perfectly on the rail. No wobble. Must not fit that particular scopes attachment points.
i wish i had as good of an experience with worker darts as everyone else. in my opinion even the newest release with upgraded glue is still horrible for durability i dont have the money to replace worker darts every time i fire one. the heads blow off them in one single shot. dart zone red tipped bamboos and blue tipped bamboos are the best most durable longest lasting dart money can buy
I use about 200 Worker HE darts per video, one video per week. From my observations I have not had any decaps unless I'm point blank firing into something hard, and at that point it's the foam itself that rips in half, not the glue on the tip.
I do mostly use 13mm ID barrels though, are you by any chance using something tighter like brass?
I think the comparison is a little off. If you buy the blaster for 35$ a new plungertube for 10$ new barrel for 16$ a worker rifled muzzle 10$ a upgrade spring for 7$ and modify the frontend for longer barrel insted of buing the 3d print you get a 300fps blaster for you get a blaster for under 80$. The worker offerings are more stable platforms but for people on a tight buget it is a good option in my opinion.
I guess it depends on your budget. For a 300fps blaster I would consider the Worker Harrier quite affordable and the ideal entry level blaster. Choosing this instead you are definitely getting a worse blaster in multiple ways and may end up even going through multiple of them as parts break since it isn't designed for 300fps. For a sub-200fps blaster, yes this is a very good choice.
lol why did you compare the harrier with stock scar vs the longshot with the sabre bcar? I mean... you even shot a number of rounds from the harrier with a bcar, why not make it more fair comparison?
I may be a harrier fanboy kuz that's what I have(I also have an upgraded lonshot), but give the harrier a fair shake in these comparison vids!
The point was the Harrier with its stock plastic rifling was still better than the Longshot. Of course if you add any other rifling to the Harrier the difference increases even further.
I was wondering what optic you use in all of your videos?
I think, as far as buying the xshot and modding vs just buying a harrier, at $35 dollars you're ready to play, and you can modify over time, so if a kid is using allowance or birthday money they don't have to drop it all right then
True, it does allow you to delay the upgrades. Though they could also just buy the Xshot Longshot, keep it stock, and save up for something better.
I have been trying to get a metal ram for mine but it is always sold out
I wish these weren't unobtanium in Canada
Aren’t these widely available in Canadian Tire?
@@kirknetic Seemingly not in Ontario. Only ever saw these at a Canadian Tire in Halifax.
My XLS is not flimsy at all
Compared to what?
@@BradleyPhillipsYTmy XLS makes less creaking noises than a swift and trions I have handled
@@bacaraproductions6931as you said on Discord that is after modding it 😂
Have you done a video on the dart zone pro mk4 yet?
No, I have no intention of getting one of those.
@@BradleyPhillipsYTok
It's so expensive to import for something that is basically an uglier Worker Swift
I'm concerned about how long it will last with xshots track record 😂
At 300fps I think it is a matter of time until something breaks
And btw there is a metal plunger rod and back dart cap of the plunger tube are in the works... Gims mods told about this in DMs
Those parts probably aren't needed. I'd focus more on the shell itself if you have the mods already shown in this video.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT got ya
8:25 SlamFire and Deprime aren't Mutually Exclusive
just pull the magazine so the chamber is empty, stick a finger over the barrel, and 'dry' fire.
now you're de-primed and didn't fire a dart.
works on anything slam-fire or not.
If you have a scar or bcar that would be the equivalent of dry firing
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Not really. You just need to add enough air resistance so that the plunger head doesn't damage itself on impact. Slow it down not stop it dead. This doesn't require a Perfect finger seal. Blocking off the main gas flow out the front of the scar is enough even if there are a few holes on the sides of a scar attachment (varies with design of course).
Why do you keep calling the Dart pusher a priming bar? Theres actually no force pushing on that part during priming from the spring. After a shot is the only time the spring is putting any kind of force on it and its actually holding it forward into the dart gate. keep that pusher O ring lubed and theres no issues. That saber pusher is super unnecessary in my opinion as well as the metal catch. Metal on plastic is a bad idea.
I was able to achieve an 303 FPS average over 1000 recorded shots on the stock PT, 45 cm barrel and sealed printed scar. After going to the silver fox Plunger, I havent been able to achieve the same average, more like a 290 FPS average now.
It is called a prime bar on Sabre's website despite it not being one. I assumed that was what it was.
As for the merits of using it, multiple comments have said the stock turnaround, bar and pusher break eventually with upgraded internals. While they aren't load bearing during priming, they still seem to break from the force of firing.
Definitely a part you could postpone getting until that happens though.
Curious what spring are you using? I'm at 240-250fps right now and really want to get to 300fps, not sure if it's worth cutting a longer section of K25. Also where did get the 'sealed printed scar'? Cheers!
where do you get the sight from?
This sight is called a Holosun HS506. It was from Optics Planet though I think it's been superseded.
@@BradleyPhillipsYTwell thats not something i can afford lol
Their original mags also malfunction with slimer darts but hey man is a hell of a good blaster
Not bad for the price stock
?just get a Harrier?
I think your final evaluation isn't quite fair, since you judged the xlongshot price with the hugely expensive sabre cnc metal bar; which doesn't affect the fps performance and is more of a vanity/clout piece.
Leave that part off the list, and it becomes more compelling vs a Harrier.
Base blaster and FF upgrades: $97 usd
Then you need a scar or bcar on top of that, and if you want it to feel anywhere close to a Worker Harrier, add about 6 tubes of epoxy putty and your time to mod it. I'd just get the Harrier.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT harrier is $190 usd.
that's a significant margin over $97 usd.
enough of gap that the xls has a place
remember that not everyone can afford everything, and don't need it to 'feel' as good as a harrier.
@@adriansue8955seeing comments from users who stuck with the stock bar, with this heavy of a spring it ends up breaking the turnaround eventually. Of course your cost of entry will be lower up front, but you'll probably want that Sabre bar later on.
Regarding the optic - if you use a smaller one and mount it over the support rather than between, it won't flex nearly as much. I have a micro about 2" forward of where yours currently is and it holds a reasonable zero by foam standards.
Not a bad solution, if the Xshot Longshot was my only blaster I'd probably just fill that with epoxy inside
Are you guys using real optics or are these like a blaster optic
Hey Bradley,
While modding my XLongshot, I decided to remove all the teeth from the priming bar to get rid of the ratcheting sound.
But now, the trigger doesn't work unless I'm holding the priming handle in the forward position. Did you face this same issue with the Sabre bar? How did you fix it?
The breech has to be closed, but I didn't have to exactly hold it forward to fire
Ok. Thanks. Might be the O ring on the pusher is not thick enough. I'll try to pad it with Teflon tape and see if that fixes the issue.
The aluminum tube does provide a far better air seal compared to the stock tube.
I had the same issue (I originally removed the ratcheting mechanism but left the priming bar alone). If you check the priming bar, there's one tooth that locks it in the forward position. Take your blaster apart and go through a prime motion and see which tooth that is. Just shave all but that one tooth. That gets rid of the clunky ratcheting but still locks the breech closed after priming. Too late for you, I know, but in case other see this I thought I'd mention it.
I love the xsls. It doesn't need the metal pusher unless you want to never worry about it breaking. I got one to consistently hit 250 fps with a 14kg spring and a pvc spacer. I destroyed the pusher when the part that pushes the dart into the barrel got mangled in the barrel when I dryfired it. Without the metal pusher, the cost to hit 250 is less than $100. To me, that makes it the best springer for the price.
Nexus pro x with high power spring will get u that for 60$ USD
@@peterlee6304 you mean $60?
@peterlee6304 and, no it won't. The nexus pro x is already $50+taxes. That's $55 right there. To get the high powered spring you have to buy the set with the low powered spring. That's another $10+taxes. That's almost $70. The XSLS, upgraded with a metal tube, barrel, spring upgrade, and a $10 scar barrel, is around $80. A $10 difference isn't enough to justify saying the nexus pro x is better when it's internals will eventually break because they are mostly plastic.
Somebody get this man a Dart Zone pro MK4
That would be pretty expensive to ship here
what's the setup to get it to 300+?
Cut down Pro 25 spring, 40-45cm barrel. That's pretty much all you need until things like the pusher start breaking.
I'll be going over some of the parts used to get the 300fps mark very soon, moneys been an issue for me recently so ive had to be very picky on what i buy,
You could initially get away with just the spring, plunger tube and barrel. Over time from others I have heard the turnaround "pusher" breaks from the force of upgraded spring but you can worry about that when it happens.
@BradleyPhillipsYT thanks Brad, hope your doing well mate. Just curious what barrel would you recommend for adding fps and compatibility with bcars? I've seen people use almost everything from brass to anodized steel
@@MrFreefonix420 I'd go with aluminium these days. 13mm ID feeds much nicer than the tight brass we used to use which is more like 12.7mm
@BradleyPhillipsYT ah nice thanks for that information what length would you recommend for max fps boost and obviously to add the bcars too.
@@MrFreefonix420somewhere around 45cm down to 40cm
I’d love to see how the harrier performs with the Sabre BCAR. Any chance you could test that?
I had the Harrier before that BCAR came out so never had a chance to test it. No longer have the Harrier.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT That’s fair. Looks like it performs so well, you could give it it’s own video and compare it to other ones on the market. Seems like that’s a big reason the apex shot as accurately as it did. Not to discredit the Sabre ;)
Shame you can't get this blaster in Australia.
You can if someone ships no?
You can put a scar on a stock longshot, nexus style and it works well as long as you don't bump it aganst anything
The Worker one you mean?
Yes basic standard worker one, or a Worker SLA Printed Resin Scar Barrel Tube, not a bcar or anything fancy of course. Does improve accuracy in standard config. Basicly replaced the useless part x shot put in there@@BradleyPhillipsYT
Good to know
Man it's kinda sad for me coz this blaster is still not available in Malaysia
I’m positive it’s there? Some SG people told me it was.
@@Castdeath No it's not , perhaps the person who has it bought it privately . Coz it's clearly not in any store shelves . I went to many stores and ask em , all of them said they have no information whatsoever from zuru .
@@ArgusXIIits not that great. Its frustrating. Seems like always something to deal with... if you enjoy tinkering around and tuning it more than a techmetal guitar player does his strings its great! If you can get the game face trion its a way better blaster and usually only 10$ more.
"budget blaster"
sabre:
It's probably safe to skip the sabre metal bar
since this blaster puts is mainspring In FRONT of the plunger tube instead of behind, the plastic bar doesn't actually bear any spring loads; and thus doesn't need to be upgraded to metal.
Agreed, can get away with just the plunger tube and spring kit
@@BradleyPhillipsYTWhen that spring is on a stock prime bar, it wants to fold. Take the shell off and look at the internals without it, it flexes bad. What they really need is a metal plunger and turnaround, but prime bar i understand why they mad it, 9¼ inches on that zuru plastic is strenuous
@@rabidpichu7391starting to see comments of the stock bar or turnaround breaking from using such heavy springs. Perhaps the Sabre bar is needed even if it's not actually priming the spring.
That flf kit was good for me, but def underbarreled, im running between 45 and 50cm, depending on want i want. Both kury barrels. But with that 19 coils of pro25 50cm is great in my experience. I use a printed rime ultimate bcar mk2 i got on etsy, great design with the porting. Just ordered foamdemics internals kit, my turnarounds broke on like 3 blasters but 9 ¼ inches of spring stuffed in there necessitates eventual replacement of some stock parts, namely the pt, turnaround, and dart pusher and bar. Its been a fun project for me, i got one at release knowing id be able to make small mods as they drop for the next few months to keep me busy. This thing is gonna end up all metal internals like the nexus, and if you enjoy the modding aspect, its a fun blaster. Were spoiled with worker and dart zone these days.
Interesting to hear that all the different parts break like the turn around, dart pusher and bar. I guess that makes the Sabre part a necessity despite that not being a load bearing part.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT I think the pressure it what blows the turnaround up and bends the pusher.but the sprung Def flexes it. I just put the foamdemic kit in but have to Teflon tape and tune it for a perfect seal. Bottom Ling is 300 is fps on that weak plastic, that spring smashing, it's rough. I considered using two buffer springs just to be safe but idk if that's a good idea
Ive seen them break when a dart jams in the turn around. It applys too much force on the thinnest 90 degree bend just above the pusher itself. That and the pusher rings are super thin and break. thin is a trend in this blaster.
I think its deserves a v2, or even a more expensive model that gives a more rigid chassis and pusher and poly plunger tube. The silhouette is very appealing, i like the large breach open on both side and ambi forward magazine release.
Also, the barrel that comes with the stock longshot is very high quality for its price point. Better than trion, and any dart zone blaster ive used.
Personally, if revised, this blaster has a nice foundation to work with and mods show it can be made better.
@@GucciBodyBagsBINGO. those are where it goes every time.
@marijunamissle the barrel is very nice, just too loose! A dart can fall right through. I love this blaster and id glady pay 50-60 for a revision thats slightly sturdier. But cant deny. The engineering is great.
I’m going to do whatever you do to yours, to mine.
Been waiting two weeks for this video. LoL
You probably don't need the Sabre priming bar, but the other steps will get you to 300fps
@@BradleyPhillipsYTthats what i was thinking. its more of a luxury thing imo idrc how the prime feels if i can get the kit now for 40$ on frontline foam
@@strykerfpvit also doesn't really improve the prime. You'd think it would, but it actually has nothing to do with the prime.
@@BradleyPhillipsYT huh, so its just a durability thing?
@@strykerfpvsome users have broken the front cage area of the stock pusher so I guess it helps for that
this is dope, Do you know why they don't sell them here in target? or in Big W
It's up to X-shot Australia to decide that, not the international company.
They probably will pretty soon. XShot has said they will be coming to Australia, and there's already a weakened 60fps version sold in other parts of the world
@@doublestriker4952 wherre'd you hear that? I'd be curious to see the announcement / statement.
@@Mephiston I saw it posted on facebook a few months ago now, soon after the Longshot was released. Someone asked if it was coming to Australia and xshot said it wasn't. Then a week or two later another person asked again and they then said it was. The change of mind was likely after they saw it's success and decided to produce a lower power version.
@@doublestriker4952 excellent, thanks. I really want one but im not gonna pay $200 inc postage for one.
Good to finally see your XLong my friend. Love it 🥰
Hey, did you take out the "stopper" spring from the inside of the plunger tube? Have you replaced it with something? (I know, don't dry fire ;)
And OH MY WORD I was driven mad by this shooting at half speed every so often. I've disassembled and re-assembled it entirely over 20 times trying to find a flaw, leak, under-compression of the spring... and there was nothing. I came to think the barrel is kinked... apparently it only happens on red darts... - and this confirms this.
i wish there was a form of these where the projectile disintegrated like gelsoft but stayed legal
I think having a biodegradable projectile is usually going to lead to inferior ammo. But it would be nice to not have to pick up darts.
Entire point of foam flinging is to have reusable ammo, it would be great to have both durable and biodegradable ammo but I think many agree that durability is a way higher priority than biodegradability.
moreso something like gelsoft where u doont worry about picking up except thats illegal now@@pacibels_cannon
By the time you mod it you can buy a trion
Yes but the trion is not 300fps out of the box you still have to put money in to it to get it there and it would cost about the same. Dont get me wrong i have both and there both amazing.
@@kurtiskeys483 durability issues with the longshot
@@AKGarcia-b3l you mean the wiggle he shows on it because of the thinner plastic? I mean if your not trying to bend it when playing should be a problem.
@@kurtiskeys483 oh ok but the plungertube breaks alot
@@AKGarcia-b3l oh i know but in this video you get a metal Plunger tub with the kit from frontlinefoam. Just wondering if you watched the video all the way?
Love to see more,and i really want to see u using the full length darts to play!
Gross, why use full lengths
@@BradleyPhillipsYT From my own testing,the full length dart actually travel faster and further in the air,it has better range and has the same accuracy as the short dart,full length darts allows me to zero at the lower postion of the target,which makes long range sniping a lot easier.
@@FoamFlinger0523 from everyone else’s tests, full length darts are worse than short length in about every way
How does the plunger volume compare?
Not the largest, probably around the same as a Talonclaw
Bradley Philips! I'm surprised you even spent time with this one! I agree with most regarding bang for your buck but it's not an 'outta the box' blaster flimsy as hell and most have cracked plunger tubes this blaster is defective before even opening....I reckon xshot will get it right with longshot v2 especially if they make it the same quality as there hpg 700 gel blaster which I'm loving at the moment. Thanks for making great content I really do appreciate your expertise!
I was genuinely surprised that Zuru even made this blaster. Despite the cheap plastic, you can see some great engineering in the design. I'd love to see the engineer who designed this given some better materials to work with and not have to have full-length compatibility. Really, for a first attempt at a "pro" blaster from Zuru, they just about nailed everything but the materials.
Also, it's a great way for kids without much money to get started.
@quasistellar totally agree. The design of the exterior is only surpassed by the design of the interior, which is unbelievably simple while being creative. I modded one to hit 270, but didn't upgrade the pusher. Then the pusher broke. After installing the metal one and a stronger spring, i can now hit 300 with adventure force pros, but I can't prime it with 1 hand.